Author Topic: applying at a blackwater-esque place! (Read 2014 times)

jking · « **on:** October 09, 2007, 02:17:39 pm »

i don\'t want to say the name, in case they do internet searches, but suffice it to say, they\'re one of the companies over there "helping" our troops. now, normally i\'d be morally opposed, but these guys seem like angels compared to blackwater. hell, they even turned in some blackwater guys, so that\'s a plus. but hey, i need a job and they need a proposal editor, so my morals are in the back seat for now!

i feel dirty and excited all at the same time...

Gfunk · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:30:27 pm »

Hey, somebody\'s gotta do it...
congrats.

Spacey · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:38:33 pm »

Quote from: jking;163201

i don\'t want to say the name, in case they do internet searches, but suffice it to say, they\'re one of the companies over there "helping" our troops. now, normally i\'d be morally opposed, but these guys seem like angels compared to blackwater. hell, they even turned in some blackwater guys, so that\'s a plus. but hey, i need a job and they need a proposal editor, so my morals are in the back seat for now!

i feel dirty and excited all at the same time...

thats cool.

I would work for one of those places in a minute. That really seems to be the military of the future, going corporate. You know you will always be in a job because there will always be figures overseas that you are hired to protect.

Good luck.

jking · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:54:49 pm »

i\'m actually thoroughly opposed to all of these firms. think how demoralizing it must be to be a grunt working next to/with these guys that are making over 400 grand a year to do what you do for 1500 a month!

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A staff report compiled by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on behalf of Representative Waxman questioned the cost-effectiveness of using Blackwater forces instead of United States troops. Blackwater charges the government $1,222 per day per guard, "equivalent to $445,000 per year, or six times more than the cost of an equivalent U.S. soldier," the report alleged

i\'m also thoroughly opposed to their utter lack of oversight (though that has finally been nominally addressed). and i would truly hate to see warfare become corporatized anymore than it already is. eisenhower made a great point that has been ignored or glossed over ever since. for-profit war is a dangerous thing!!

although, as i said above, i\'m not thoroughly opposed enough to work for them.... :embarassed:

Spacey · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:44:40 pm »

It is what it is and it will always be around. As much as we all hate to admit to it, War makes the world go round.

We all seek peace but has there every been peace on earth? Probably not since man first appeared and even then when the world was forming there was no peace, it was hell.

The soldiers in Blackwater are all highly trained individuals that are employed by a company that **** the US government in these contracts.

kindm's · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:47:03 pm »

hey a job is a job. However

They are mercenaries, I love how the press calls them contractors. It is funny as hell. No they are mercenaries. And we the American people are paying through the ass for these guys to fill a job that the US military used to handle for much much less. This is just another long list of the fleecing of America by privatizing military responsibilities. We are paying Blackwater 1 Billion dollars.

So if you need the money and you can sleep at night go for it. I am sure there are all kinds of connections you could make in this capacity, the connections between these companies and Washington DC is pretty well laid out so it could be a great way to network at the same time getting paid

jking · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2007, 04:04:17 pm »

frankly, i just want a job for the next year or so, until we get married and move out of state!

[evil]:lol:[/evil]

and i had a bunch of political contacts from my days as a campaign manager. its just that the turnover since then has been pretty severe and i never managed to win in virginia. missouri? oh hells yeah! i was the greatest thing to hit missouri since meth! but around here, not so much...

kindm's · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2007, 04:29:38 pm »

Quote from: jking;163228

frankly, i just want a job for the next year or so, until we get married and move out of state!

[evil]:lol:[/evil]

and i had a bunch of political contacts from my days as a campaign manager. its just that the turnover since then has been pretty severe and i never managed to win in virginia. missouri? oh hells yeah! i was the greatest thing to hit missouri since meth! but around here, not so much...

So if u know you will be using them I say go for it

jking · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2007, 05:06:59 pm »

yeah, at this point i just want to put some form of \'editor\' on my resume... hell, i sucked it up and applied to the nra (their hq is literally two hundred yards from our back door - as you pull into our townhome neighborhood at night, the giant neon NRA shines down upon you... kinda freaky, honestly) as a legislative aide, may as well **** it out to the least bad of the worst, too, ya know?!

another way to look at it was to be able to say, \'hell, if i can do a good job for them, i can excel anywhere!\'

(and just to balance the karma, i applied to the red cross, also)

Todd · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2007, 05:14:20 pm »

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The soldiers in Blackwater are all highly trained individuals

:hscratch: Really? Not from what I\'ve read. Our soldiers had to train them. When they first showed up they didn\'t have a clue...and were immediately put in charge of things they had no idea about. And making **** loads of money.

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kindm's · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2007, 05:14:43 pm »

Quote from: jking;163236

yeah, at this point i just want to put some form of \'editor\' on my resume... hell, i sucked it up and applied to the nra (their hq is literally two hundred yards from our back door - as you pull into our townhome neighborhood at night, the giant neon NRA shines down upon you... kinda freaky, honestly) as a legislative aide, may as well **** it out to the least bad of the worst, too, ya know?!

another way to look at it was to be able to say, \'hell, if i can do a good job for them, i can excel anywhere!\'

(and just to balance the karma, i applied to the red cross, also)

Funny

leith · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2007, 05:38:19 pm »

Here\'s to you sleeping well at night.
:vomit: :vomit: :vomit:

Spacey · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2007, 05:55:02 pm »

Quote from: Todd;163238

Quote from: Spacey;163222

The soldiers in Blackwater are all highly trained individuals

:hscratch: Really? Not from what I\'ve read. Our soldiers had to train them. When they first showed up they didn\'t have a clue...and were immediately put in charge of things they had no idea about. And making **** loads of money.

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Blackwater is all of our former Green Berets, Navy Seals and Special Force agents that are no longer in the active military. Some soldiers come from SWAT teams and former FBI agents.

Just finished a book that looks at Blackwater and Erik Prince (who is the founder and an ex-Navy Seal). It basically breaks down the truth behind Blackwater, its rise to prominence and how the DoD is in their pocket. The book was written by Jeremy Scahill.

Todd · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2007, 11:14:21 pm »

Oh crap...sorry. I was thinking of Halliburton.

jking · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2007, 03:30:40 pm »

leith, you\'ll be glad to know that triple canopy roundly rejected me. i\'m happy to know it, too...