There was def a short jam before the queeb. The tapers like most of us, got held up by the "doordick" who was completely unqualified for the job. If you read the thread with the taping on it, it says started late because they had to go stealth. That\'s what happens when you don\'t make it out for a queeb opener, You don\'t get to hear the whole thing. Lets all blame IH!