funny man dangle at the end of d1t04.
Nice to see the SB matrix making a comeback!
Thanks, Mr. P!
Couple questions for ya: why mikes facing audience? And do you have to do anything special to sync up AUD to SBD?
why mikes facing audience?
this is where the "audience" portion of the matrix (soundboard + audience) comes in. the
main purpose of the mics on stage is to capture the audience. of course, the band is picked up with the mics as well, but it\'s mostly a monitor mix. the music that is picked up by the mics on stage is complimented nicely by a decent board mix.
the alternative in a soundboard+audience matrix would be mics in the crowd, facing the stage (a typical audience recording), but that\'s where your next question comes in:
And do you have to do anything special to sync up AUD to SBD?
with mics on stage, no. since the mics are at the source of the sound, they\'re in sync with what\'s coming through the soundboard. when you start to pull the mics away from the stage (like in example 2 above), that\'s when you\'ll start to hear a delay between the board and the mics, because the mics are no longer at the source and the sound takes time to travel from the source to the mics. so you\'d have to sync up the two sources in the post in this scenario. with the 744T (my new recorder), you\'re able to add a delay on the fly, but i haven\'t messed with this yet (or needed to, since i\'ve been putting the mics on stage).
oh, and here\'s the 24/48 version of this show, for those interested:
http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2008-09-18.matrix.flac24
Everything dave said plus in my words:
Many soundboards recording don\'t represent what people actually hear at a venue. Many soundboard mixes can be from dry to added extreme artificial reverb or some instruments by not even be mic and can lack an appropriate mix for a recording. Facing stereo mics from the stage toward the audience helps isolate and capture the acoustics reverberations of that venue, audience and stage sounds. With a 4 channel recorder (stereo soundboard + stereo audience) the 2 sources can be mixed after the show to achieve the best balance/mix of the intelligibility of the soundboard to the natural acoustic of the venue and stage sounds. This achieves a simple and best sounding recording with 4 channels.
A 4 channel recorder synchs all channels to the same clock and will not drift apart. Two separate stereo recorders will have different time clocks and will drift apart over time.
The other issue is audience mic placement and time delay. The further the audience mics are away from the stage mics the more delay you will hear between the 2 sources. This can be fixed with a 4 channel recording and an audio editor by nudging one of the sources, but here are unnatural side effects with this method, so it is best if the audience mics are near the stage mics preferably front and center.
Nice, this recording sounds fantastic.
How sick is Adrian in this Rush?! nasty drum roll
Thanks for the audio info. That\'s kinda what I figured, but thought I\'d ask. I am well aware of how bad soundboard mixes can sound once you take away the acoustics of the venue.
I really appreciate your work in making these shows available--and quickly, too! It\'s the next best thing to being there.
That 744T looks like a nice piece of hardware!
thats the absolute best What the Funk ever played.
no question about it
most obvious hands down easily identifiable best ever version since Iron Harry.
fuckin epic
can not wait to hear this rufus!