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Alright, I\'m downloading this show http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=2318">06-19-01 off of Archive.org, but the last track on the last CD is not on the original setlist ( the one listed on psychedelicbreakfast.com). Does anyone know what it is/it\'s purpose? Thanks.
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It was the soundcheck from that night---Tribal Funk Affliction & Hard Luck Harry
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Alright, I get it now, thanks. I didn\'t see that thing above it where it said "FILLER", lol. Anyway, if I\'m making this CD, you suppose I should put the soundcheck on it? Is that what most of you collectors would do? And would you put it as the first track of the first CD rather than the last track of the last CD?
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personally, i\'d put it on disc two, right in between the terrapin station > puppetry segue, but hey, what do i know?
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then you will see that there is plenty of space on disc 1...put it first and keep the continuity of the live show on disc!!!
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psst... there\'s no continuity between soundcheck and show, since the soundcheck happened about an hour before the show, and since it\'s not part of the show, the person who recorded it included it as filler on disc 3..
though i suppose if you really wanted to be anal, you could get a 4th disc and make THAT disc 1. put the soundcheck in as track 1, then make track 2 a 57-minute silent track, so you can pretend you\'re really at the show and go drink some beers and puff some heady nugs while the band is getting ready to go on.. just make sure you come back in time for disc 2, cause it sucks being late for shows....
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How many of you would say that you are anal about your cd\'s? I\'m the first one to admit that I treat my cd\'s like crap... especially cdr\'s which are almost free. Not sure about you guys, but unless a show is just seriously kick ass, it gets listened to once or twice & then just gets thrown into a pile with the rest of the average shows... never to be heard from again... My question pertains to not only how you physically care for them, but in the recording phase as well... James\' question about whether he should put the soundcheck at the beginning or the end struck me as kind of funny (no offense, James... don\'t mean to single you out, but your question combined with my experience with the guy I mention below got me thinking)... I mean, if it were me, I could really care less... lol... do some of you really put that much thought into it??
I was trading some Panic cd\'s with a guy a few months ago, and while I was recording them, i guess I didn\'t check the box on my burner so there wouldn\'t be a pause in between songs.... I had also managed to loose 1 disc of a 3 cd show, so I just substituted with a cd from another show... let me tell you, this dude was PISSED! It was like I ran over his dog or something! These are things that I would hardly notice! Much less get my panties in a wad over...
I guess I can undestand wanting to have complete shows, but I must say this talk about "continuity" seems a little irrelevant... I mean, how often do you get to sit down & listen to a complete show from start to finish? I would say that the vasy majority of the time, you might get to listen to 3 or 4 songs before you get out of the car or have to do something else.
Anyway, just curious... am I way off base here?? Wouldn\'t be the first time... LOL!
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Marcial,
here\'s my take on the whole thing...
i used to be that anal cd guy.. back in the beginning, i was really picky about everything. but i was also the first person i knew (by a long shot) who ever got a cd burner. just to put it into perspective, i paid $550 for my first (2x max) cd burner. :holyshit: i was also paying $3 a disc for blank media, and i wasn\'t even using the drive for audio at the time!
over the next year or two, prices drop, and more people pick up burners. discs are still over $1 each though, but the audio cd burning scene is starting to catch on. at this time, i joined PCP - People for a Clearer Phish. and the cool thing to do was to be super anal about your discs - only use certain brands, don\'t write on the discs, don\'t say the word \'mp3\' around me, etc, etc...
2000+ audio discs later, i REALLY don\'t care anymore. i stopped keeping a list a LONG time ago... i just don\'t have the time to nit-pick about those things.. there\'s not really such a thing as trading anymore. most companies are giving the media away now, so no one thinks twice about just hooking each other up with stuff.. no trades required... so am i gonna **** and moan because mike dreary just burned me a dbb show on the purple fuji\'s when he knows that orange is my favorite color, not to mention the fact that he WROTE on the discs in RED, and it CLASHES with the purple that i hate to begin with?
HELL NO! 
he hooked me up with this show out of no where, i\'m gonna listen to it a few times, throw it in a binder, and it\'ll prolly never be seen again. and I AM HAPPY!
know what else?? I LOVE MP3\'s!!! there, i said it! i bought an Apple iPod a few months ago, and it\'s the best damn investment i ever made. i ripped my entire (non-live) cd collection to VBR 192k mp3\'s, and i LOVE IT!
yes, i\'m still picky about what i do with PB stuff, but that\'s different. matt and i are the keepers of a comprehensive PB archive, and our job to make those sound as good as possible.. but as far as personal listening goes now, i\'ll be damned if i\'m gonna go over every disc i receive with a fine-toothed comb just to make sure that each track was split at a sector boundary... i used to have time for that... but i\'m older now, and there are more important things in life than sector boundaries....
all that said, marsh, i\'d still be upset about the 2-second gaps in between tracks.. simple mistake, i know, but it sucks to have to listen to that on a live show.. but like i said above, i don\'t think i\'d threaten someone\'s life over it.
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Considering that I don\'t really watch tv that much I would say I get to listen to at least 2 full shows a day, pretty much since I started collecting live music...I\'ll bring it in the car and if I get home before it is done I bring it in and continue it inside...As far as the discs, the only time I care is if 1. spaces between songs(sorry Marcial, that\'s just annoying)2. I send someone Mitsui\'s and in return they send Imations or Staples brand cds...other than that I don\'t care...I really don\'t care if someone writes on the discs because I create my own labels to put on any ways.
In using the word continuity, I meant that it seems to make more sense to me (maybe I\'m strange) to have the sound check come before the show. I know that there was space in between it and Set I that\'s not what I meant. Also the first 2 discs are both about 55~ mins long and 3 is about 70+ mins...it would make listening more enjoyable for me if I could leave the discs in a little longer for each one. -
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There is a snowball fight in hell right now....
Cats and dogs are living together....It\'s mass hysteria -
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rotfl
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