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The stuff with Paulie, the cat, and the picture of Christopher was truly priceless.....
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I didn\'t see it but read about it, and it sounds really really crappy to end the show like that....I\'m kinda glad I didn\'t go out of my way to see this episode. Hopefully the dvd\'s will have all the different endings they shot
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i thought that was a great ending to a classic show. there is no need for closure...this isnt a movie. the whole point of the dinner, as mentioned before, was to show life through the eyes of tony. every time the door opened up he had to see who was coming in. even a casual dinner with his family was a stressful event for him since he was out in public.
i came across this at another board. i recognized the boy scouts so im assuming the rest is correct too.
"From the HBO message boards:
The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2 (DVD players). The trucker had to identify his brother\'s body. The boy scouts were in the train store when Bobby was killed and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear."
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so then maybe the abrupt ending was, from tonys perspective, "lights out" cause someone capped him right at that point.....hmmmmm
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overall = dogshit.
didn\'t feel like a series finale AT ALL. had the whole \'just another episode\' feeling the entire time, which was a bit of a let down.
there were things about the episode that i LOVED, and i\'ll give credit where credit is due:
phil\'s death scene. fantastic. \'say bye bye to grandpa!\' followed by the pops and the suv crushing his head.. great, great stuff.
the scene with tony and uncle june. wow. one of the most emotional scenes in recent history. tony looking like he\'s on the brink of tears when he realized june has no idea who he is.. very moving.
the cat = spirit of adrianna.
the whole final sequence (with the exception of the ending) was amazing. the way the tension was building with every second was phenomonal. it had you on the edge of your seat the entire time. and then.... nothing.
the abrupt ending killed it. it just seemed awkward and out of place, and all of america thought their cable went out at the worst possible moment.
when meadow was having trouble parking her car, i expected her to walk in just in time to see tony be killed. i also thought she might be run over when running across the street, but whatever..
i hated where it ended. i\'ll even follow chase\'s lead and tell you what i would have been more satisfied with:
get meadow into the **** place. sit her down at the table with everyone. have the guy walk out of the bathroom on his way back. tony looks up at him, and you see everyone else look up at him as well. fade to black.
sure, i\'d probably still be bitching today, but i just thought that ending it with meadow at the door was awfully weird.
*maybe* tony was killed. in the opening of season 6.2, tony and bobby were in the boat talking about how you don\'t hear anything when it happens. but you know what? i don\'t want to hear anything about the ending being left up to the interpretation of the viewer. ****. that. i don\'t get paid to write the **** show. you wrote it, you tell me what the **** happens! ****, if it were up to me, it would have started raining while meadow was parking her car, she would have gotten out, walked into the middle of the street, and taken all her clothes off, carressing herself in the rain. but again, i didn\'t write the show. tell me how it ends.
seems **** retarded for a show that has NEVER DONE CLIFFHANGERS, to give you a **** cliffhanger to end the series.
not to mention that the entire episode was extremely **** jumpy.
before season 6.2 started, i had a conversation with chrispitch. i told him that whether it was fair or not, the sopranos finale would have to be judged/compared to the six feet under finale (which i believe was the best finale in television history).
well, i won\'t be losing any sleep trying to decide which one was better, that\'s for sure.
a great final (half) season, which will unfortunately be clouded by an extremely mediocre finale.
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bring back nate fisher/6ftV....
im glad we didnt see t get killed.
im pleased with the outcome/ending..
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not all that good of an ending.
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Quote from: davepeck;148464
phil\'s death scene. fantastic. \'say bye bye to grandpa!\' followed by the pops and the suv crushing his head.. great, great stuff.
totally ripped off from six feet under. but not done as well.Quote from: davepeck;148464before season 6.2 started, i had a conversation with chrispitch. i told him that whether it was fair or not, the sopranos finale would have to be judged/compared to the six feet under finale (which i believe was the best finale in television history).
well, i won\'t be losing any sleep trying to decide which one was better, that\'s for sure.
no question which was better, but i gotta say that the whole premise behind 6ft ("everything ends") lends itself for a much better finale. the only actual finale that the sopranos could have is that of a greek tragedy in which everyone dies, good and bad. but since that didn;t happen you can\'t have a real ending, bc this is a family that will keep living their life day after day.
pretty much i think that sopranos is one of, if not, the greatest shows i\'ve ever been priveliged to follow through its 7 years, and i\'m happy to have experienced it in full. i remember watching the first epi in my bedroom when i was like in 8th grade. caught my interest and imagination form the start and never lost it until the fade to black. -
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I thought that was an amazing episode and a very fitting ending to the show.
It was also a brilliant, TENSION FILLED last scene. I dont remember the last time I was so on the edge of my seat over a tv show as I was during that scene in the diner.
To me that the whole show is about right there. Dying to know whats going to happen next.
It’s a glimpse into the lives of a family not a movie with a clear beginning middle and end.
Tony once again come out on top on the business level and manages to take over the ny Crew, and everything is looking up for his immediate family, BUT he is experiencing new levels of stress, paranoia, anxiety, and emotional out bursts and badly needing to get back into therapy.
The black was also definitely was intended to make us wonder if it was just lights out for him. You see the meadow running toward the restaurant, you hear the door open but you don’t see who comes in. Last shot is tony reaching for something...is it quarters for the juke box or his gun?
The last scene also just transposes the two lives or families of Tony. All in all it was true to the series. All the loose ends are never tied up but life always goes on. Pauly even says it at the table with the youngsters....’Whatya gonna do....Life Goes On’
So even though its left open with no cliche mob ending which I was thankful for. It was to good and original of series to go out with something predictable. I think people are pissed today because the creators also definitely toyed with our heads by putting in some very classic mob scenes throughout the episode that seemed to be setting a tone for a classic mob story ending.
.... The funeral with FBI taking pictures
.... The throw back FBI scenes of wire taps and surveillance
....The Safe house just full of guys with guns in war time (w/The Twilight Zone on TV)
....The sit down in the warehouse.
...Paulie’s last scene sitting in front of Satrialli’s Tanning after getting the jinxed promotion and the cats walks into the shot was classic.
Geese flying by the backyard.
....also The phil hit starts out real straight up OG real gangster then gets hilarious when phil’s head gets smushed and the black dudes are like ooooowwww then that weird midget guy goes ‘OH ****!’ and then a black guy pukes.....as the car with the two babies is still rolling into the street.
For AJ things are really looking up for at this point. Everyone hated on AJ most of the season when he was being a whiney **** but I think all in all it was good coming of age story. He avoided going down the same path as Tony. He overcame his depression, at least for the moment and is with a hot girl, and going into films to probably make movies to channel all of his emotion and things he wants to say into. His last scene leaving work, picking up his girl in the bmw and the song playing “scratch your name into the fabric of this world before you go” was great I thougt.
There were a few minor things I didnt like....Carlo flipping after all that **** just went down just to get his son out of an ecstacy charge is pretty unbelievable, but I guess they just needed a way to quickly regenerate the ever-looming threat of incarceration.
Anyway it just goes on and on and on and onnnnnn....
One of the best shows ever. I think I am gonna wait like 5 years now and then watch the whole thing over again
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Tony is dead....
why was meadow running into the restaurant? if she didnt see someone shooting her dad in the head......
end of series....
the only real question is whether the whole family got wacked.
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she was running cause she was late
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she was running cause she was late
with a look of horror on her face?
come on brah....
well maybe she saw tony eating the last onion ring....
I have officially convinced myself that Tony = dead.
Series over.
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she was running cause she is/was a horrific parralel parker..
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^^ throw Heat in the mix for the deniro triple play. thats prob my fav movie of all time...that or the good the bad and the ugly.
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Tony = dead as a doornail.
After Goodfellas and Casino, I am gonna go rent A Bronx Tale....though deniro was a good guy in the movie, it was his directorial debut and a nice juxtaposition to the other 2.....
That, Jason, is my Deniro Gangsta Hat Trick........Though I was watching Heat last night.....Great flick in its own right.... -