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hula hooping contest for best vocals on the board
I think Ron should sing a lot more.
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I completely disagree. His voice gets just the right amount of PT. If he sang a lot more it\'d become nails on a chalkboard.
really? i missed him in the recent son of simpleton.
and i\'m talking about backup/harmony, not solo.
i think he\'s got the right volume, def. not too loud at all. his voice is a key in any 3 part or 2 part for that matter. i would like to hear more of his harmony.
i didnt know you were talking about harmonies.. in that case, yes i agree. as far as lead vocals, no. he should keep those at a minimum.
I love Adrian\'s haunting shrieks!
Adrians vocals have much improved from the first couple trio shows.... keep up the good work, guy!
And, like my class voice teacher said, not everyone was born with pavarotti\'s voice, but EVERYONE can learn HOW to sing. It just takes practice, like learning any other instrument.
my cat\'s breath smells like cat food.
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my farts smell like thanksgiving. i swear
Just to add my 2 euros, I do still miss Jordan\'s vocals on certain songs, but Tim, Ron and Adrian really stepped up to the plate while they were a trio. Tim\'s vocals have certainly improved, no doubt in part , due to the Timmy Tour and Ron is much more consistent. Adrian has probably made the greatest progress - how any drummer can even try to sing is still a mystery to me, so full marks to him. As has been said earlier in this thread, Matt\'s voice is something to get used to. Sometimes he gets it, some times he doesn\'t, but at least he\'s having a go and getting lessons too.
Vocals on the LB show were not wonderful at times, but you can\'t hit it every night. I think the harmonies have developed nicely, especially with a fourth voice on board and they can only get even better. as for that show, also cut teh guys some slack, they were playing a Phish album in front of Phish\'s hometown crowd - takes balls of steel to do that, especially with Mike G there too.
In general, some of the worst vocals I\'ve heard in the past few months have been on the covers, especially the Van Halen songs, which I don\'t like anyway - I still ask myself what they were thinking when they planned the FF9 encores - Hot For Teacher was awful to my ears. I know covers often give Tim a break, but I think other cover avenues should be explored, which perhaps suit Ron and Matt\'s voices better, though I can\'t for the life of me think of any suggestions right now.
I know covers often give Tim a break, but I think other cover avenues should be explored, which perhaps suit Ron and Matt\'s voices better, though I can\'t for the life of me think of any suggestions right now.
:awwyeah: Bring back Question!!!
a few things..one, boombox, i didnt know matt was getting lessons, where did you hear that? has anyone else heard about this? he really really needs them...every time he sings im holding my breath and hoping off notes dont come out (which they usually do).
As for suggestions for songs to play that would suit their voices, im not sure why they have never covered any Beck songs, or why people dont suggest that they cover them. Tim could do Beck\'s voice really well i think.
I also agree with the van halen comments. van halen sucks and their songs are completely opposite of the breakfast\'s style. i have no idea who in the band likes to play these songs but at the FF9 when they played hot for teacher i almost immediately got in a less good mood.
i think ron has a great accompanying voice to tim, and adrian isnt half bad either, especially as a harmony guy. matt is the only one that i really dont like vocally, but hopefully he\'ll work on it.
Anyone that is basing Matt\'s voice on his take on Lawn Boy really needs to take a step back.
Matt was obviously overemphasizing the vocal meter during this song. You have to remember Matt had never heard of Phish and what he has heard of the band other than music is probably that they were a bunch of hams on stage alot of times. He probably ran with that.
That being said I cannot believe this thread has gotten this long. I mean really these guys have never been the best vocalists and that is pretty much the only thing anyone has ever been able to say negative about the band themselves with any type of credence for the past nine years. I think if they have made it this far w/o being amazing vocalists they\'ll be fine for the next nine.
If that\'s all one can bag on this band about I think that is freakin\' awesome. Hell there are PLENTY of bands in this genre that are as bad/good as The Breakfast vocally and some are doing pretty damn well from what I gather.
I also agree with the van halen comments. van halen sucks and their songs are completely opposite of the breakfast\'s style. i have no idea who in the band likes to play these songs but at the FF9 when they played hot for teacher i almost immediately got in a less good mood.
Tim\'s a big Eddie Van Halen fan for obvious reasons. I would imagine, just given their ages, that the rest of the band dug VH in their glory days as well.
a few things..one, boombox, i didnt know matt was getting lessons, where did you hear that? .
I thought I read that elsewhere on the board - maybe I misread something. If this isn\'t the case, my bad. Clarification, anyone?
leith, I, for one am not basing comments on Matt due to the LB show. To my ears, he is the weakest vocalist of the four - or perhaps he has not been given the right songs. I know Tim is a monster EVH fan, but he has many other heroes and influences - so it\'s time for something new.
Also such discussions are indeed pertinent - if we, as the
**** followers, are questioning their vocals at times (and I stress, at times - not all the time), you can bet others with only a passing interest will be less forgiving. It\'s not enough to suggest other bands got away with sometimes dodgy vocals - they were different times and many younger people have been brought up on computer-aided pitch perfect vocals. The old school deadheads will be able to forgive lapses in vocal prowess, but new potential audiences might not. Correct cover choices are important so that while they are fun covers everyone in the audience knows, these people will credit the band with being able to pull them off in all departments.
And Free Spirit, I am definitely right with you on bringing back Question or Legend Of A Mind, though they are both Tim songs, I believe. Another possible candidate for Matt might also be Karn Evil - not had that one in a lonnnngggg time!