I think it is something we should always try to keep in mind though,

that\'s what I was thinking, usually everyone\'s gone by the time the disaster is discovered.  Where as all they had to do was talk to the club and they talked to the managment

man, thats some bullshit!

no really, you guys oughtta be ashamed of yourselves.  tarnishing the bands image like that.

no really, it couldn\'t have even been that bad,  wah and walsh weren\'t even there.

that\'s what I was thinking, usually everyone\'s gone by the time the disaster is discovered.

bah, ****.. i\'m gonna throw on my flame suit here and play \'responsible adult\' for a minute..

i think a little something more should be taken away from this than \'get out before the disaster is discovered\'.. i\'m not saying that that\'s what you were implying mandler, i just want to make a point..

if you look at the threads talking about these hotel parties, you\'ll notice a trend of people basically bragging about what kind of condition the hotel room was left in. i mean come on - that\'s just wrong. can we try to grow up a little bit and maybe clean up after ourselves?? seriously - if you have the ability to "rage all night", then you definitely have the ability to put garbage in a garbage bag.

kindm\'s mentioned something in another thread about \'leaving only your footprints\'. it\'s a great mentality, which more people should try to be in. why is it that the same people that go to heady festivals and are very mindful of cleaning up after themselves and keeping the grounds clean, have no problem shitting on a hotel room where some poor sap making $5 an hour has to spend the entire next day cleaning up after them. and don\'t tell me "it\'s their job", cause it ain\'t - just like it ain\'t the hotel\'s job to host your parties.

don\'t get me wrong - parties are fun. i like fun. and ****, cleaning up a mess is pretty fuckin\' far from fun.. but cleaning up someone else\'s mess is even worse. get a garbage bag going early on in the night. throw your empties back in the box they came out of. dump the ashtray in the garbage bag. dump the cooler in the tub, not on the floor.. it all seems really simple. you don\'t have to make the beds or hang your towels up - just try to maybe treat the place like it was your own. if everyone does their part, the individual cleanup effort is extremely minimal.

parties = cool.
slobs = not.

my $.02...

flame away.

^^
ooops, by "raged all night" I really meant "passed out early"

flame away

i didn\'t even realize anyone had actually said that.. i was just using the expression in general...

this thread sounds like an excerpt from "The Dirt" (Motley Crue biography.... a great read I might add).

did y\'all really get a hotel room with a fish tank?

i think most people in the tiny breakfast scene try to clean up after themselves.

sometimes some things dont get cleaned up and the maid has to pick up the slack.

BIG **** DEAL.

Stupidest thread ever.

If the band manager and Dave Peck ask me to do something for the good of the band, it\'s done.  No questions asked.  And this request is simple: just clean up your own mess.  That\'s easy enough!  I might not be the loudest, rowdiest, or messiest person at the party most of the time, but if I\'m in there and not cleaning anything, I can only be making it messier.  We can do a better job of cleaning up while continuing to hang out latenight.  Three tips:

1.  Have a trash bag or box out all night.  Make sure the first few bottles and trash items go in and people will realize that\'s where trash goes and follow suit.

2.  If it\'s your room, you have to step up your game in the morning before you leave and clean up any remaining objects that were not supplied by the hotel.  That just comes with the territory, so step up and handle it.  Most likely there will be several people to help out.  In the Amherst days when we had 300-400 people over a night it took all five of us six hours to clean up.  Lots of other people host Breakfast parties at their house too and have to clean up.  But nobody complains.  It just comes with the territory of hosting parties and the cleaning is a labor of love in the name of supporting The Breakfast.  That\'s the outlook you have to have when it\'s your room.  You gotta step up.        

3.  I\'d love to see more people get into the habit of hosting afterparties at their house/apartment, and consequently everyone else looking for a houseparty first while they\'re traveling and only doing the hotel thing if there\'s no other option.  If you live within 25 miles of a venue, consider having people over.  It\'s a great way to get to know everyone and it\'s always a better time than the hotels.