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What is the matter Leith, you get tired of bitching at the mgmt. for holding the band back so now you are going to blame the fans?

i\'m really failing to see the logic here.

leith, all you\'re talking about doing is padding numbers.. let\'s say the breakfast plays in Buttfuck, USA, and draws 9 people to the show. now let\'s be generous and say there\'s 20 **** breakfast fans out on tour. so now there\'s 29 people at the Buttfuck show, but there\'s still only 9 there from Buttfuck. the rest of the people are already established fans.

explain to me again how this makes them bigger?

hey, i\'d love to just drop everything and go on the road with the band for a month. i long for the days when i was able to take entire summers off at a time and go on phish tour. things were a LOT simpler then, and i\'m just not in that place anymore.. and not many people are.. hell, i\'m thankful to be able to see the amount of shows i do get to see.. :shrug:

Dude, I tried to be cool about this, but then you had to come back and act like an 8yr old.  Why don\'t you address all of us with the kindness you address the managment in your email. WHy do you feel the need to degrade us?

Don\'t tell me about my life leithbag.  I\'m doing my **** and you have no idea what\'s going on in my life or anyone else\'s on this board.  You\'re probably right some people could make trek.  But alas I cannot.  Many here cannot.  Hey man I did see them in nearly every state they\'ve played in.  But that\'s besides the point.  

As someone else said it\'s our job is to be here for the local shows.  I use most of my vacation time one to two days at a time to make the farther away local shows, the long weekend runs.  So I just don\'t really have any left. Why don\'t you focus on getting heads to shows there and we\'ll do the same here.

Also, TLG is from SanFran, which helps.  As I said we\'ll be having some long distance heads here for the Freakout, cause it\'s a home town show and there\'s a certain appeal to that. Why don\'t you fly out here for a TLG show huh?  Come on Leith I mean support your favorite band. Let\'s go slacker. You flew out here to see The Breakfast cause it\'s hometown.  Why don\'t you fly to Chicago and see them, or TLG.  Fly to bummble **** middle america to see them.  If you reallly want to support the band.  Or do you just want to log on here once a week blame the managment, and when that doesn\'t work tell us it\'s our fault.

Fine, you\'re right the music is not the prob.  I\'m just saying it can be easier for the initial laidback fan to get into it, it\'s sounds just like everything else.  It\'s familiar.    

I don\'t **** on here when there are doozies, I dont\' think alot of people do. I\'m not saying no one does.  But we\'re bummed the show wasn\'t packed, but bitching is the wrong word.

I\'m not saying you\'re completely wrong here, and I didn\'t in my first post which is why it angers me you feel the need to be so mean on the rebutle.  I think alot of peopl on here don\'t disagree with every thing you say, just the way you say it.

You\'ll catch more flys with honey than with vinegar.  People will take you more seriously if you weren\'t such a Leithbag.

That being said, since yes you are a cool cat in person.  When are we gonna see you out here again?  Come on make the trek for the freakout.....






edit:see Dave\'s above post

leith, i couldnt disagree with you more..like "Me!" said earlier, the majority of the fans on .info do everything they can do to support the band and I think that is the reason they are still around.  And yes, people can not just leave their everyday jobs or responsibilities to catch a breakfast show in a different state.  again it would be great if they could, however they cant.  I go to school in the city and I see the breakfast every chance I get.  I can\'t always just leave school to go see them but when they are playing somewhere else and I am already there, I make it my priority to see them.  All of these **** fans have seen well over 200 shows and are doing their part and i genuinely dont think its right or ok for you to come out of nowhere and tell them they are not doing enough.  everyone on here knows the bands representation is an issue and everyone (including myself) is doing their part to help the band move along however we can. so try not to come on the this board and be so acusatory of fans who really would do nearly anything for the band

Leith, regardless of how you put it, I see your point.  It would be amazing to have some **** breakfast heads out here on the road, but what really needs to happen if this band is going to make it is that people from the cities we play need to know about the show and band.  It\'s the local music fans from across this country that will push this band to the next level.  If there is a demand for something, the supply shall follow. The Breakfast have their New England fans, and I know that if it wasn\'t for this thing called life, there would be quite a few familiar faces along with us on this tour (or even just parts of it).

Blah, Blah, Blah Leithbag.  DavePec said it perfectly.  

For myself, I have the Disco Biscuits, they bring me to a place that NO OTHER BAND has ever taken me.  This includes Phish, The Dead and , yes it is possible, The Breakfast.  No one on here may understand or agree, but it is how it is.  When they tour around, i try to hit every show I can, because they don\'t play as many during the year.  When I am not going on the road for them, i hit as many Breakfast shows as possible.  I have seen the Breakfast almost twice as much as the Biscuits, but the tDB runs cost alot of money, but I am not going to stop going on those, sorry pal.

Stop trying to BLAME people and start trying to do positive things to actually help the Breakfast with all this desire you have for the band.  You don\'t know **** about other peoples lives, so just worry about yourself.

i am completely with dave/jimbo on this one. leith, you cannot expect that everyone is so available to drop their everyday commitments and go on breakfast tour. come on now...we all have responsibilities to deal with. yes, it would be fun, but we can\'t all do it. it\'s awesome that some of the die hards are able to/have been able to go out west and see the band as well as west coasters coming east. it\'s really a great thing, but it also doesn\'t do as much as we would like to think for the band.

leith = Drama

You know you really need some perspective.

You work in the music industry so your life pretty much revolves around the music scene. You make your $ from waht you have indicated on the board doing lighting and etc for money. So your personal life and job all revolve around music. Good for you. I would imagine much of your life also falls in to the non 9-5 grind as many of us have to endure. How many shows that you go to do you even pay to go to ? My guess is that you have the hook ups and probably get listed at many shows. All these things help YOU to go to many shows others cannot do because of jobs, money etc. It also saves you cash that you can spend on other stuff. Perhaps you just have more $ than everybody else but your situation does not translate in to everyone elses.

So lets compare. TLG is having a 2 night run in their hometown (or close to it) on the weekend and people fly out for shows. hmmm. When the Breakfast did a local 2 night run I recall you as well as others flew and drove in from afar to go to the show. So why all the hating ?

The bands drawing power has nothing to do with the die hard fans here on the board. many here do not have the finances or time available to them to make a cross country trek.

Hell I was looking at Peck\'s "tapers needed" thread on another board trying to see if I could fly out to seattle for the weekend to catch a show and make a tape.

So whats the point of all this. I think many if not all of us if we had the time, money and security to do so would drop everything and go on tour with the band. But I\'m not 19 anymore and unfortunately dropping everything and anything to drive around the country to see music isn\'t my primary concern in life as it once was.