Author Topic: Does anyone else miss the Diesel Experiments? (Read 4774 times)

Yoda · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2009, 12:03:28 pm »

Are there any Callahan DE out there?

siflandollie · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2009, 12:17:24 pm »

Quote from: kindm\'s;243666

I recorded all of the Diesel Experiments at Tobacco Rd in NYC

They were

Lennon v. McCartney
feat. Sequoia on Keys, Save on Bass, Adrian on Drums, Tim on Guitar and Pete Pigeon on Guitar

Zappa
feat. Members of Project Object, Save, Adrian and Tim

Junk N Jams
Adrian, Save, Tim, Some girl sings a tune. I do not recall who was playing keys at the moment

are these recordings floating around anywhere? I would love to hear \'em

jking · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2009, 12:32:41 pm »

i\'d love to grab whatever of these are around. ss/mediafire/etc would be great!

FrankZappa · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2009, 12:35:30 pm »

most of the deisels were never released at tims request. Dave did tape a few/all of the calahan ones, but I don\'t think they ever made release.

there\'s some pictures from them in the gallery.

simpletwistupdon · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:05:31 pm »

Quote from: jking;243670

i\'d love to grab whatever of these are around. ss/mediafire/etc would be great!

Ditto to that, so long as its ok w/ Tim!

jking · « **Reply #20 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:08:20 pm »

why didn\'t tim want them released? not arguing, just curious....

Yoda · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:47:29 pm »

I\'m just interested in the Americana DE for obvious reasons...

simpletwistupdon · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2009, 02:51:00 pm »

Zappa
Lennon vs. McCartney
Fusion
Americana
Junk & Jams

I know there was one with an RHCP set... any others that can be remembered?

tmn8r1 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2009, 05:15:55 pm »

here they are in order.

acoustica
acoustica 2
junk\'n jams
Zappa vs. Dead
americana
high times
lennon vs. mccartney
zappa
junk\'n jams 2 & 3 &.......

i can\'t remember whether junk\'n jams preceded zappavsdead or vice versa. i had a blast doing these shows but it was tough with the energy i put into them, the crowd we drew, and the money we made. trust me i have list of experiments i want to do and will do in the future. the breakfast covering cartoon themes was one of them. beatles a-z was one as well. so i still vent my creative ideas just hasn\'t been through the diesel label. i will revive the DE in 2010.

thanks to all who supported DE, came to the shows, and now send me warm thoughts in remembrance. they were fun.
if you guys want the tapes go for it. i was self conscious that the music wasn\'t the tightest due to the lack of practice before the shows but............. wtf. enjoy.

peace

simpletwistupdon · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2009, 05:29:13 pm »

Nice Tim! Thats great to hear... thanks for your insight and words of wisdom regarding the past DE shows. As always, anything that you\'ve been a part of ends up a quality product and damn good time IMO. I\'m definitely lookin forward to anything that comes in the future!

leith · « **Reply #25 on:** October 14, 2009, 05:58:26 pm »

Quote from: Spacey;243298

Close the yearbooks, kiddies. Its time to move forward. Tomorrow is a better day.

Your pessimism is venomous and clueless see Tim\'s post below. DE LIVES!!!!!

Quote from: boombox;243654

Quote from: GLuft3;243352
I\'d still like to hear "In the Court of the Crimson King," though.

Ditto! Used to love the way they used to bust out stuff like that and Legend of a Mind.

Have got a couple of the DEs in audio if anyone needs them.

Up them. See Tim\'s post below.

Quote from: kindm\'s;243666

I recorded all of the Diesel Experiments at Tobacco Rd in NYC

They were

Lennon v. McCartney
feat. Sequoia on Keys, Save on Bass, Adrian on Drums, Tim on Guitar and Pete Pigeon on Guitar

Zappa
feat. Members of Project Object, Save, Adrian and Tim

Junk N Jams
Adrian, Save, Tim, Some girl sings a tune. I do not recall who was playing keys at the moment

Up them. See Tim\'s post below.

Quote from: tmn8r1;243703

here they are in order.

acoustica
acoustica 2
junk\'n jams
Zappa vs. Dead
americana
high times
lennon vs. mccartney
zappa
junk\'n jams 2 & 3 &.......

i can\'t remember whether junk\'n jams preceded zappavsdead or vice versa. i had a blast doing these shows but it was tough with the energy i put into them, the crowd we drew, and the money we made. trust me i have list of experiments i want to do and will do in the future. the breakfast covering cartoon themes was one of them. beatles a-z was one as well. so i still vent my creative ideas just hasn\'t been through the diesel label. i will revive the DE in 2010.

thanks to all who supported DE, came to the shows, and now send me warm thoughts in remembrance. they were fun.
if you guys want the tapes go for it. i was self conscious that the music wasn\'t the tightest due to the lack of practice before the shows but............. wtf. enjoy.

peace

Cartoonage was a Diesel idea?
Awesome. May have to make a disc of just the toons.
Awesome DE in 2010. Hmmmm

Keep it flowin\' Tim.

mvallo · « **Reply #26 on:** October 14, 2009, 08:12:36 pm »

05/23/01   deisel experiments- Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT      2   shn/2wav      SOURCE:Matrix:1: Soundboard > Behringer MX802A > Tascam DA-P1 2: AKG 480/ck63* > Behringer MX802A > Tascam DA-P1 *on stage split 5 feet ;Original Recording by Dave Pecoraro & Matt Vallo (mvallo@snet.net).DAT>CD Conversion by Dave Pecoraro (davepeck79@home.com):Tascam DA-P1 > Turtle Beach Montego II > Sound Forge 4.5 > CDWave > SHN

06/13/01   DEX - dave has shn

12/12/01   The Diesel Experiments: Red Hot Chili Peppers - Callahan\'s Cafe; Cheshire, CT      2   shn/2wav      soundboard matrix via digi001/protools ;2 overhead drum mics (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);4 vocols mics (board inserts);1 gutar (s57\'s);1 bass (direct);1 kick bass (s57\'s);recording/mixing/tracking/shn by matt vallo (mvallo@snet.net)

12/26/01   "The Diesel Experiments: High Life - Callahan\'s Cafe; Cheshire, CT
"      2   shn/2wav      some missing; soundboard matrix via digi001/protools ;1 overhead drum mics (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);4 vocal mics (board inserts);1 gutar (mic) digi pre ;1 bass (direct);1 kick bass (mic) digi pre;1 lesley (hi) (Akg483>dmic20>spdif>digi001);1 keyboard (direct);recording/mixing/tracking/shn by matt vallo (mvallo@snet.net)

04/03/02   DEX -tim and jordan - dave has shn

04/10/02   DEX Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT      2   shn/3wav      Digi001/Protools 24bit/48k >16/44.1(rough mix)

04/16/02   Callahan\'s; Cheshire, CT - jam      2   shn/2wave      digi001/protools; recorded by: matt vallo

09/11/02   Fatty\'s On The Green - Wallingford, CT
   Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net);Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37; Location: 3 feet from stage; 6 foot stand; Conversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > Cool Edit 2 > CD Wave > WAV; APE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio

09/22/02   DEX - new haven- grunge               Sennheiser k6/ME62 : 15 ft split 5 Feet infront of PA > DMIC20 > DA-P1

10/02/02   The Diesel Experiments: Junk\'n Jams-The Living Room - Providence, RI         shn      Taper: Chris FitzPatrick (cfitzpatrick@snet.net) Source: Sony ECM-MS907 Microphone > Sony PortableMiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37Location: 0 feet from stage; 7 foot standConversion: Sony Portable MiniDisc Recorder MZ-R37 > CoolEdit 2 > CD Wave > WAVAPE: Master WAVs > Monkey\'s Audio

10/23/02   DEX - open square- holyoke- funkadelic VS RHCP      dvd3

      mulittrack
01/15/03   DEX (Performed by the members of Psychedelic Breakfast);Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring: John Lennon VS. Paul McCartney      2   shn      "Recording by Mike Deary
Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries"

01/22/02   DEX ; Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring: "Junk in Jams"; ;Tim Palmieri (guitar);Jeff Guilman (guitar);Dan Edinburg(bass);Denis Lickman (clarinet and mandolin);Adrian Tramontano (drums)      2         Recording by Mike Deary; Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries; Transfer by Matt Vallo; Tascam DA302 > Digi001/Protools(S/PDIF)* > CDwave > SHN;*normalized and 48k > 44.1 conversions

01/29/03   The Diesel Experiments ; 2003-01-29 Tobacco Road - New York City, New York; Featuring the music of "Frank Zappa"; Tim Palmieri (guitar),rob (bass),Jordan shaparo (keys),Adrian Tramontano (drums)               Recording by Mike Deary; Source: AKG 460\'s ((CK-1 Caps) X/Y)-> Grahman Patten DMIC 20->Oade active COAX->Sony D8 (48)-> Ecocharge Batteries; Transfer by Matt Vallo;Tascam DA302 > Digi001/Protools(S/PDIF)* > CDwave > SHN;*normalized and 48k > 44.1 conversions

Holy good stuff here! I found this on my taper list from 2004. A lot of this was first time played, raw, unpolished and experimental, which made it so good! thank you Tim and all musicians that made it happen!

skalnbyc · « **Reply #27 on:** October 14, 2009, 08:29:58 pm »

Quote from: simpletwistupdon;243683

I know there was one with an RHCP set... any others that can be remembered?

I think I remember the RHCP Diesel being at a place in Holyoke, MA. Either Springdale Hall or that 1 other place they played (can\'t remember the name).

TeddyT · « **Reply #28 on:** October 14, 2009, 10:00:31 pm »

Next Diesel Experiment: October 31, 2009: P-Funk

Good to know that there is now permission to distribute the Diesel Experiments shows. Any chance we can put these shows on archive.org? I love that ****.

Also, I have a good chunk of footage of the Frank Zappa Diesel Experiment. If someone in the A/V crew could synchronize the video with the audio files that exist and possibly post it on youtube/sendspace that would be great. Would make a nice Christmas present for the B\'fam.

Gfunk · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2009, 10:04:44 pm »

Quote from: tmn8r1;243703

i will revive the DE in 2010.

MOAR ZAPPA!