Ehh.. I got a few shows I got a month ago or so, still haven\'t given them a solid listen, but I\'m sure I will eventually. I saw them for the first time at the Middle East(downstairs) in \'02. I had fun and they really are great at what they do, there was just something that was missing for me. The songs themselves(esp. the jams) just seemed a little too forced for me, I dunno if that makes sense to you. It just seemed like a formula of some lyrics, a bouncy riff, toss in a heavy metal jam here, etc. It just lacked a little flow, and some soul too. I\'m sure they\'ve gotten much better since them, but its hard to keep up w/ so many bands these days, and its gonna take them to come here more and me to get some more experience in to change my opinion.
I had a chance to see them 3 more times, but the first time I forgot to bring a 21+ i.d., I only caught the last 2 songs of their set at Waterloo, NJ in \'03 where they played acoustic cuz of the horrible weather, and I decided to listen to their moe.down 4 set from my camp site while eating lunch and getting shit together for the rest of the day and such(which means i wasn\'t paying much attention). I will be seeing them at Summercamp on Memoe.rial Day Weekend, so we\'ll see then.