leith, i see what youre saying. but i think rr being way more newb friendly, like klout said, is not necessarily true. for one, like it or not, the breakfast is part of the jam band scene. those who are turned on to em to start are for the most part gonna be peeps who love jams, especially the kind that are on deuce where theyre so tight and have almost perfect progressions that they feel composed at times. speaking on behalf of the couple dozen people (w/virgin Breakfast ears) that ive had listen to both Deuce and RR, they went crazy over Deuce and RR didnt keep their attention. and it wasnt one of those cases where i constantly said "listen to this part" during tribal or somethin and then kept my mouth shut during RR, i throw them both on as background music during parties large/small and people always say, "Holy shit! what are we listening to right now!?" when deuce is spinning. really havent gotten that at all with RR.