Am I the only one that was really into PB/TB only? I remember catching crap from people because I thought that Max Creek and Hunbinger Street sucked... PB used to open all the time for Creek and I would just leave after their set was over... I think that it was about the people in the band for me since I became friends with them for a period of time... Before they started really started touring in \'01, they were a rock band that jammed, not a jam band... I had a hard time coming to grip with hear a song that was originally 5 minutes pushed to 10-15, but since it was the boys, I got used to it... I think that is why it was tough for me to get into the different incarnations of the band with Matt and Chris, because they weren\'t the core... Aside from the Dead, Phish and old PB shows, my jam-band days are gone...