The 2009 Major League Baseball Thread

[peaches626]

hey dig what your sayin yoda, it\'s just my opinion....

i think people should be allowed to do whatever they want to their own bodies

[Yoda]

I agree with you for the most part, but with steriods, there isn\'t much of a level playing field with regards to natural talent.

I\'m okay with Bonds\' steriods.  I can\'t stand him because he used to wear that stupid dangling earing...

[peaches626]

I agree with you for the most part, but with steriods, there isn\'t much of a level playing field with regards to natural talent.

I\'m okay with Bonds\' steriods.  I can\'t stand him because he used to wear that stupid dangling earing...

i\'m not sure what you mean here...?


for the most part, i think the best players are the ones that have worked at it the hardest and the longest.  if i start taking steroids it\'s not gonna turn me into brady anderson or something

[jocelyn]

I agree with you for the most part, but with steriods, there isn\'t much of a level playing field with regards to natural talent.

I\'m okay with Bonds\' steriods.  I can\'t stand him because he used to wear that stupid dangling earing...

Jeez, for someone who really didn\'t want to talk about Arod\'s steroid use, you\'re pretty into talking about Bonds\'.

[Yoda]

I agree with you for the most part, but with steriods, there isn\'t much of a level playing field with regards to natural talent.

I\'m okay with Bonds\' steriods.  I can\'t stand him because he used to wear that stupid dangling earing...

i\'m not sure what you mean here...?


for the most part, i think the best players are the ones that have worked at it the hardest and the longest.  if i start taking steroids it\'s not gonna turn me into brady anderson or something

I understand that it\'s not going to turn you into the hulk in a matter of days, but it will help you build up more muscle and strength over time, where as a majority of the players are trying to do it the natural way.

I agree with you for the most part, but with steriods, there isn\'t much of a level playing field with regards to natural talent.

I\'m okay with Bonds\' steriods.  I can\'t stand him because he used to wear that stupid dangling earing...

Jeez, for someone who really didn\'t want to talk about Arod\'s steroid use, you\'re pretty into talking about Bonds\'.

Arod is current.  I think what he did is wrong and if MLB or the law wants to do something, then do it.  Don\'t agonize of it and ruin the current season over this.

Bonds is done.  I can\'t stand the guy and I don\'t think he deserves the record.  Talking about Bonds won\'t impact the way this season unfolds.  Continue to talk about Arod (in the media) 24/7 will.  It\'s not a Yankee thing.  Fine him or bench him, let\'s just play ball.  And for the love of God, Girardi, get on the fucking field and out of the pool hall.

[peaches626]

your just readin into the hype kid.

i\'m not convinced that a majority of the players (in the past 15 years or so) were trying to do it the natural way...



hey it just comes down to your view on life- i think if they wanna put some juice in their body, whatev, they\'re not doing harm to me or infringing on my style

[Yoda]

No, but the integrity of the sport suffers.  Baseball has already been replaced as the national pastime.  Do you want to see it eventually go the way of the NHL (and I love hockey)?

[peaches626]

and i certainly don\'t think we need a goddamn congressional hearing on this shit...

i definitely think our government has better things to be worried about

No, but the integrity of the sport suffers.  Baseball has already been replaced as the national pastime. Do you want to see it eventually go the way of the NHL (and I love hockey)?

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[wildcoyote]

and i certainly don\'t think we need a goddamn congressional hearing on this shit...

i definitely think our government has better things to be worried about

The gov\'t involvement is beyond absurd.  

As for the records- the different eras are now completely apples and oranges.  Bonds (McGwire, Sosa, A-Rod) hit a lot of those HR\'s against pitchers on it too. Steriods are everywhere in sports.  Anyone who believes the offenders are limited to the Mitchell Report, or the 104 names on this list or Balco or Kirk Radmonski are as naive as people who were saying it was a juiced ball.  From my own experiences in competitve sports, I\'d say 80% of elite level athletes use something today.  Despite being a dirtbag, Canseco is right.  It\'s not a handful who are using, it\'s a handful who are clean.

[NickNels]

From my own experiences in competitve sports, I\'d say 80% of elite level athletes use something today.  Despite being a dirtbag, Canseco is right.  It\'s not a handful who are using, it\'s a handful who are clean.

Oh yeah?  Was that the highschool varsity team? Or maybe the Co-ed recreational softball team...i heard they have been jucin\' for years

[wildcoyote]

From my own experiences in competitve sports, I\'d say 80% of elite level athletes use something today.  Despite being a dirtbag, Canseco is right.  It\'s not a handful who are using, it\'s a handful who are clean.

Oh yeah?  Was that the highschool varsity team? Or maybe the Co-ed recreational softball team...i heard they have been jucin\' for years

1 year of Div. IAA College Football, 3 years of competitive Rugby where I played in England, Scotland, New Zealand and Australia.  

Just because you are an uncoordinated doofus with the muscle mass of a Jerry\'s kid, doesn\'t mean the rest of us have suffered the same athletic indiginities.

And yeah- in the sports I played steriods were rampant, and it really wasn\'t that much of secret.  Guys used swap tips on the most effective methods of cycling, recovery, drugs for speed, drugs for power.  Ways to deal with and prevent side effects.  Most who never used stayed away more out of fear of side effects than moral standards.

[NickNels]

From my own experiences in competitve sports, I\'d say 80% of elite level athletes use something today.  Despite being a dirtbag, Canseco is right.  It\'s not a handful who are using, it\'s a handful who are clean.

Oh yeah?  Was that the highschool varsity team? Or maybe the Co-ed recreational softball team...i heard they have been jucin\' for years

Just because you are an uncoordinated doofus with the muscle mass of a Jerry\'s kid, doesn\'t mean the rest of us have suffered the same athletic indiginities.

don\'t make me add you to the Gaff thread

[wildcoyote]

What really gets me with this stuff is how everyone gets so high and mighty condeming these guys.  Yup, the records don\'t mean anything anymore- agreed.  

But Selena Roberts got A-Rod\'s info from a report she was never supposed to see.  She "cheated", if you will, to get ahead in her career. Ethically, morally, that list was supposes to be anonymus.  How many of these politicians in congress pointing the finger have taken illegal campaign contributions?  How many of us, if we found some way, some how to get an edge over everyone else for a work place promotion would. How many would stand by and do nothing if your career competitors had the edge?  It\'s hypocrisy and it\'s bullshit.

[Yoda]

Sorry, but these guys are role models to kids... They may not think of themselves as such, but they are... Corruption is rampant, but when was the last time you heard a kid running around saying, "I want to be like Selena Roberts when I grow up."  But I guarantee you that if you ask the teachers on this board, they\'ve heard some of their students say, "I want to be like A-Rod when I grow up."

[peaches626]

i don\'t stand up for that role model shiz either, yoda....


parents and people who save lives are role models... entertainers/ athletes are not role models in my eyes.... and if i ever have kids i will give it my best effort to have them understand the same