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« Reply #1815 on: March 29, 2009, 03:13:37 am »
Been reading through some early pages of the thread and found this prediction on Hampton tickets which I nailed:

Quote from: Wolfman ON 10/15/08;208072
Just some words of wisdom from the ticket market guru:

After Saturday\'s onsale, EVERYONE is gonna hit the secondary market.  Right now roughly $250 per show can get you in to each night.  After Saturday, with everyone having no more hope at face value tickets, the secondary market will blow up and I expect that tickets will start going for $350-$400 a pop as buyers hit the market in large numbers.  



The only inaccurate part of that prediction was underestimating how correct the basic theory was.  Turns out tickets sold for $500-$700 each by showtime, not $350-$400.

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If you\'re looking for tickets to a show, sit and wait.  The bubble is going to burst.  The secondary market is driven in large part by scalpers, but it\'s also being heavily driven by the fact that fans are buying tickets to shows all over the map that they have no intention of attending.  They\'re just getting them for "trade bait".  Well, a lot of them are in for a rude awakening.  Trading on the internet is not easy; fans are very flaky, a lot of tickets aren\'t shipping until 2 weeks before the show, a lot of fans don\'t live anywhere near many other fans so they cannot meet and trade.  There are going to be a lot of loose tickets starting 3 weeks before the shows that people are going to start to get nervous about moving in time.  And Red Rocks is no exception.  A lot of people far from Colorado pulled one day and don\'t want to fly for one show.  It\'s still difficult to get, but there are more loose Red Rocks tickets out there than you might think.  If you have a pavilion ticket in the first 20 rows for any northeast show, you can trade it 1:1 for Red Rocks tickets with other people in the northeast right now.  You just have to find them.  
 
There are a lot of people in each region who just want to get to their local show and can\'t because people everywhere else grabbed all the tickets.  How many Connecticut residents don\'t have Hartford tickets right now?  How many Hartford tickets are in the hands of people over 500 miles away who have no intention of going?  Several thousand tickets.  This is a totally self-destructive mechanism of the Phish scene.  This is why nobody can get through to their local show and secondary market prices are sky high.  Every big act has the scalpers after them, but no other big act has the whole fanbase completely taking tickets away from each other, holding tickets hostage for shows they have no intention of attending.  This doesn\'t happen to any other band.  People who want to see Dave Matthews in Boston don\'t go buying Dave tickets in every other city and then holding them hostage for trading with people who are holding Boston tickets hostage.   Right now everyone thinks they\'re going to find the trade they want, but they\'re not.  There is no amount of Alpine or SPAC lawns that will get you into Fox or Rox.    
       
So yes, a lot of people will want the tickets, but there will be a lot of desperate sellers too.  

Unlike Hampton, where prices kept rising all the way up to and into the lot itself, this time the market is high right now, early in the game.  So wait.  By the time second leg starts, we\'ll already have a fall tour announced, likely including a Halloween show.  This will drive demand down too.  The last 2 weeks before each second leg show will be a good time to get to work and find your tickets.

Ticket Market Guru out!
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« Reply #1816 on: March 29, 2009, 09:05:05 am »
how much/often do you love yourself, wolf?

btw, anybody got an extra pair of lawns to hartford they wanna unload for facevalue?

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« Reply #1817 on: March 29, 2009, 12:42:17 pm »
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how much/often do you love yourself, wolf?



A lot/twice a day.

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« Reply #1818 on: March 29, 2009, 03:11:49 pm »
again.  on the phone with a person at 3:00...  nothing.  this is a bullshit system.  the amount of fruitless effort i\'ve put in is RETARDED!
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« Reply #1819 on: March 29, 2009, 03:19:20 pm »
check out 7-10-99.  randomly put it on cleaning the apt. yesterday and stumbled into my new favorite trey solo ever in chalkdust.  shit is unreal.     download it out if you\'re bored, it\'s well worth the listen !
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« Reply #1820 on: March 29, 2009, 03:49:45 pm »
I typed in the two words incorrectly on the website at first because one of the words had a period at the end and I was uncertain the period needed to be entered.  Second time entering two words yielded two lawn tickets @ Shoreline.  

45% premium for ticket fees, facility fees and charity fees.  Not that I object to a 50-cent charity fee per ticket, but shouldn\'t that be my choice If I wish to contribute or at least know what the charity is?
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« Reply #1821 on: March 29, 2009, 04:00:02 pm »
you\'re giving money to the every needful charity of greedy-americans-who-think-they-found-another-sucker. please give, and give often.
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« Reply #1822 on: March 29, 2009, 05:07:03 pm »
Gavin I peeped that Chalkdust its pretty hot but not quite in my top doz ;)
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« Reply #1823 on: March 29, 2009, 05:08:43 pm »
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Gavin I peeped that Chalkdust its pretty hot but not quite in my top doz ;)


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« Reply #1824 on: March 29, 2009, 06:48:46 pm »
today i pulled like 8th row page side for the cali show a half hour after the sale time.   go figure the best ticket i get is for a show 3000 miles away

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« Reply #1825 on: March 29, 2009, 07:21:46 pm »
Although it comes as no surprise and with so many people buying tickets to shows they have no intentions of traveling to:

-I have worse tickets because of this grab \'em all mentality
-Many people are left out altogether unless they are willing to pay inflated prices




The tacky part is that a lot of these greedy Phish kids are likely ranting, down-with-the-man anti-capitalists employing the same tactics that enterprising individuals would (and many tickets are probably on mommy and daddy\'s credit card).
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« Reply #1826 on: March 29, 2009, 08:11:56 pm »
my ticket is going to a west coaster for face.   stop your wah wahs.

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« Reply #1827 on: March 29, 2009, 08:19:42 pm »
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The tacky part is that a lot of these greedy Phish kids are likely ranting, down-with-the-man anti-capitalists employing the same tactics that enterprising individuals would (and many tickets are probably on mommy and daddy\'s credit card).


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« Reply #1828 on: March 29, 2009, 08:33:33 pm »
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Pangs of silence
From the room upstairs
How\'s the view there?
Do you read what they\'re saying about you?
That you\'re no fun
Since the war was won
In fact, you have become all of the things you\'ve always run away from

The ascent of Stan
Textbook hippie man
Get rest while you can

So where\'d the years go?
All the time we had?
Being poor was not such a drag in hindsight
And you wonder why your father was so resigned
Now you don\'t wonder any more

The ascent of Stan
Textbook hippie man
Textbook hippie man
Get rest while you can

Stan: Once you wanted revolution
Stan: Now you\'re the institution
Stan: How\'s it feel to be the man?
It\'s no fun to be the man

And now, watch it all go down

The ascent of Stan
Textbook hippie man
(Stan)
Textbook hippie man
Get rest while you can

Stan: Once you wanted revolution
Stan: Now you\'re the institution
Stan: How\'s it feel to be the man?

It\'s no fun to be the man
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« Reply #1829 on: March 30, 2009, 10:09:18 am »
it not only phish who you can\'t get tickets too......just got shut out for U2 tickets
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