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Breakfast Babble => Tunage => Topic started by: Stephengencs on December 11, 2004, 02:34:28 pm

Title: Doughboy
Post by: Stephengencs on December 11, 2004, 02:34:28 pm
Ever since the first time I have heard this song, I have always felt that there should be at least one more "pause", "stop/start", or whatever the technical name for it is (Paul Ryan or Wolfie are usually good for technical info like this).

I dont think that the additional "pause" should be guaranteed by any stretch of the imagination, but I know that if they ever threw in even just one extra "pause" anywhere in the song, whether it is in the verses or in a jam, I would completely lose my shit and go bezerk....

I know how some of you feel about this already, but I wanted to put it out there to see what everyone thought/felt.....
Title: Doughboy
Post by: DocEllis70 on December 11, 2004, 03:18:50 pm
i thought it sounds like another pause would natrually go there too..and actually asked about it and the response was...\'cuz thats not how i wrote it\'. so im gonna vote no to the second \'rest\'.
Title: Doughboy
Post by: freddiewaht on December 11, 2004, 04:19:49 pm
i say let it ride how it is..something almost to look forward too..
Title: Re: The Doughboy "Pause"
Post by: FrankZappa on December 11, 2004, 04:25:44 pm
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
"pause", "stop/start", or whatever the technical name for it is (Paul Ryan or Wolfie are usually good for technical info like this).


Theres no technical name, it would just be a rest on the music staff for all insturments for an undetermined length. (probably 1 bar just to keep the time signatures even).
Title: Doughboy
Post by: Igziabeher on December 11, 2004, 04:27:57 pm
so wouldn\'t that make "rest" the technical term
Title: Pregnant pauses
Post by: boombox on December 11, 2004, 04:28:03 pm
Ah, the old pregnant pause!! Damn good way of building tension with the audience.

Previous great pauses:

#1: Rocky Horror (Got to be the all-time best ever) - "I see you shiver in antici....

(Spot the newbies at the movie/show who call out too early!!)


....pation!!!"

#2: Jane by Jefferson Starship, when Craig pauses, before ripping into the solo. (Saw this live once at Reading Festival and he milked that pause for all it was worth)

Anyone think of any others?? (no gestation jokes, please ;))
Title: Doughboy
Post by: DocEllis70 on December 11, 2004, 04:59:23 pm
there is that undetermined silence in Divided Sky which builds pretty nice tension...would be much cooler if the entire crowd went mute as well
Title: Doughboy
Post by: davepeck on December 11, 2004, 05:17:20 pm
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
i say let it ride how it is..something almost to look forward too..


holy shit. freddie\'s making sense.. i must really be tired.

but yeah, i look forward to the one. and it seems like mike and i always have some kind of way to animate it out.. usually by punching each other..
Title: Doughboy
Post by: freddiewaht on December 11, 2004, 07:07:19 pm
maybe you and mike are spending a little bit too much time together...i may be wrong..
Title: Doughboy
Post by: davepeck on December 11, 2004, 07:58:37 pm
:sigh:
Title: Doughboy
Post by: Wolfman on December 11, 2004, 10:25:55 pm
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Originally posted by freddiewaht
maybe you and mike are spending a little bit too much time together...i may be wrong..


Tough comment to make while you\'re attached to Steve\'s hip.

On topic, I think Doughboy is fine how it is.  I would like to see a pause for an entire set though.  That would be interesting.
Title: Doughboy
Post by: leith on December 12, 2004, 12:09:02 am
Ya know now that I think abt it. I nvr really heard this as a special moment or anything in the song. I mean my body gets it as a break in rhythm but that\'s abt it. Now the 2 songs Andy referred to Jane by Jefferson Starship and what song from Rocky Horror? Sweet Transvestite. Now those pauses are more noticable to me. Esp. ST as he\'s right all the virgins fuck that part up lol ! I guess for me the Silent Note in Divided is alltime actually no the pause right after the beats and before the lyrics in BIODTL.
Title: Re: Pregnant pauses
Post by: Stephengencs on December 12, 2004, 02:44:50 am
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Originally posted by boombox
Ah, the old pregnant pause!! Damn good way of building tension with the audience.

Previous great pauses:

#1: Rocky Horror (Got to be the all-time best ever) - "I see you shiver in antici....

(Spot the newbies at the movie/show who call out too early!!)


....pation!!!"

#2: Jane by Jefferson Starship, when Craig pauses, before ripping into the solo. (Saw this live once at Reading Festival and he milked that pause for all it was worth)

Anyone think of any others?? (no gestation jokes, please ;))


Phish 6-28-00 PNC Mikes Song w/ Stop and Start Jam before going into Albuquerque>Weekapaug

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Originally posted by Wolfman

Tough comment to make while you\'re attached to Steve\'s hip.
 


"if you know a better way to exchange long protein strands then I\'d like to hear it"
Title: Doughboy
Post by: boombox on December 12, 2004, 08:36:39 am
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Originally posted by leith
actually no the pause right after the beats and before the lyrics in BIODTL.


Yes, had forgotten about that one!
Title: Re: Re: Pregnant pauses
Post by: helluvahat on December 12, 2004, 09:39:30 am
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Originally posted by Stephengencs



"if you know a better way to exchange long protein strands then I\'d like to hear it" [/B]



hahaha.....HILARIOUS!!!!
Title: Doughboy
Post by: freddiewaht on December 12, 2004, 11:46:07 am
i dont get it.....
Title: Doughboy
Post by: helluvahat on December 12, 2004, 12:40:00 pm
it was a quote from one of the simpson\'s halloween specials, freddie.   Trying to explain it would make that much less funny....
Title: Doughboy
Post by: freddiewaht on December 12, 2004, 12:53:23 pm
well,try it anyway..
Title: Doughboy
Post by: WALSH on December 12, 2004, 09:09:22 pm
Leave it.  That pause is what I look forward to.  One more would take away from the puch that the 1st one brings.
Title: Doughboy
Post by: davepeck on June 07, 2004, 12:39:41 pm
@ DOUGHBOY (February 8th, 2002)

Wait for me I want to try my luck
You know my currency it’s called a buck
Hit me I want to know if it’s my money day
In a sense, I never thought too big
Cause I’ll never make as much as I bid
Hit me anyway, maybe my money day

I always wondered who predicts
If I can touch the cards with tricks
Jonesing the rush I might be sick
If I can’t get my doughboy fix

I cough up dough and let it roll
Some days it smooth, some nights not at all
Maybe the weekends are more my money days
Big amounts it always looks better
Break even or bust it was money well spent-uh
Maybe my luck will make it a money day

Most days I don’t have a dime
If I don’t play I won’t know its time
Doughboy fix is in my spine
Is lady luck now on my side?
I hope each day is a money day
You never know how long luck will stay

No more bets, as I sit at the table
Been here for hours and will do more if I’m able
I can’t believe today is my money day
Let it ride, the only way to make the most
I put it all down, now I\'m on the whipping post
This is the play to show me my money day

Can you believe I won the cash?
If I didn’t I\'d say dough and crash
But now I’m going to throw a bash
Spend that money like a doughboy fast
I hope each day is a money day
You never know how long luck will stay


Title: Doughboy
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 15, 2007, 07:01:01 pm
Quick question:

Is this intentionally a Steely Dan sounding tune?

I had always thought it sounded like one, but after the magic of shuffle on my iPod brought me Bodhisattva > Doughboy on my drive to work, I feel like it\'s got to be intentional. Confirm/deny?
Title: Doughboy
Post by: davepeck on October 15, 2007, 07:28:51 pm
can\'t answer that, drew, but this is funny because i just got home from the gym, where the Real Radio Doughboy came on in shuffle mode (out of ~7,500 songs).
Title: Doughboy
Post by: skalnbyc on October 15, 2007, 07:39:42 pm
Quote from: davepeck;164272
can\'t answer that, drew, but this is funny because i just got home from the gym, where the Real Radio Doughboy came on in shuffle mode (out of ~7,500 songs).


also funny for me because I\'m listening to Real Radio as we speak at work (currently in Scheme), and I haven\'t listened to the album in a number of months.
Title: Doughboy
Post by: Lexington on October 15, 2007, 09:46:36 pm
funny for me because ijust ate some pillsbury biscuits. nam nam
Title: Doughboy
Post by: Todd on October 16, 2007, 02:18:17 am
Funny for me, because at 9:00 I was sweeping my pool match to a shut out!!
Title: Doughboy
Post by: jocelyn on October 16, 2007, 04:10:12 pm
Not funny for me at all. I\'m still drunk from watching the fucking Red Sox game last night. And it is not funny.
Title: Doughboy
Post by: Igziabeher on April 12, 2011, 05:28:46 pm
Is this the only Breakfast song to have been sung lead by at least 3 different members of the band?