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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2006 => Topic started by: davepeck on September 18, 2006, 06:28:44 am
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I: Sundance > Wake Up In A Coma > Sundance, jam > Dimension 5, Psygn, Love Lake, Rust > Buquebus
Thanks to bezerker for the call!
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wow, d5!
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Tim introduced D5 as "Here is a new twist on an old favorite" and then they went into a pretty spacey funked up jam before D5. quite ser....
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I can\'t wait to hear that Sundance>WUIAC>SUndance looks ser on paper
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eh.
The show was OK. Buquebus was the highlight (as usual).
Adrian was def. on fire. it was a solid show just didnt do much for me. It seemed like everyone was having a goodf time on stage I just couldn\'t help noticing/thinking that every time Tim turned to play keys it dropped the energy level. He certainly looked like he was having a blast but it just seemed like an after thought. I would have much prefered the tunes just played w/o keys.
Thursday it was fine but for whatever reason it seemed to stick out like a sore thumb to me on Saturday
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I just couldn\'t help noticing/thinking that every time Tim turned to play keys it dropped the energy level.
That\'s the same feeling I get during some of the songs, others were bad but are now better. Might get better with time, who knows?
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Well, Tim seems to be getting used to it.
I think I\'ve seen 4 or 5 shows that are just the trio... the first 2 seemed a little tough to be playing both. The last 2, it was like, holy shit, that kicks ass.
I am firmly in the opinion that The Breakfast should remain a trio forever.
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just wanted to chime in and say it was great seeing the boys twice in three days! whoo hoo :wave:
i was especially psyched to see tangi (sp?). it seems like it\'s been a long time, even though it was at the 1,000th show.
here\'s a few pics of the guys:
(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/images/GoE_breakfast01.jpg)
(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/images/GoE_breakfast02.jpg)
(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/images/GoE_breakfast03.jpg)
hope to see everyone soon. take care/kim
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Well, Tim seems to be getting used to it.
I think I\'ve seen 4 or 5 shows that are just the trio... the first 2 seemed a little tough to be playing both. The last 2, it was like, holy shit, that kicks ass.
I am firmly in the opinion that The Breakfast should remain a trio forever.
Well you have your wish. a lil bird told me unless someone of EXTRAORDINARYkeyboard playing talent appears, The Breakfast are a trio now and forever.
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thanks to igzy for the call during D5. one of my fav\'s, easily.
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I just couldn\'t help noticing/thinking that every time Tim turned to play keys it dropped the energy level.
That\'s the same feeling I get during some of the songs, others were bad but are now better. Might get better with time, who knows?
Finally some people w/ enough guts to actually voice some displeasure w/ the keyboard set-up and the way it does detract from the energy level @ times.
I expect there to be less keyboard playing and more synth tricks from Tim in the future and would not be surprised if the Keys were dropped from most if not all songs. Just a hunch.
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^^
I hope your little birdie is right! Cool :)
Eh, not a matter of guts here, I criticize my favorite band all the time (cuz i love them)... but I really think Tim on keys+guitar is pretty damn cool.
Personally I don\'t require Breakfast shows to be balls-out-rocking every second of the show. That\'s why I like songs like Eppy 1, Escher\'s Etchings, Question Mark & The Mind, Eppy 2, and other ones that aren\'t straight out rockers. PB has always been excellent at developing a jam slowly from ambience to a face melting peak... I\'ll take both and everything in between :)
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I just couldn\'t help noticing/thinking that every time Tim turned to play keys it dropped the energy level.
That\'s the same feeling I get during some of the songs, others were bad but are now better. Might get better with time, who knows?
Finally some people w/ enough guts to actually voice some displeasure w/ the keyboard set-up and the way it does detract from the energy level @ times.
I expect there to be less keyboard playing and more synth tricks from Tim in the future and would not be surprised if the Keys were dropped from most if not all songs. Just a hunch.
I dont think tpalms is going to stop playing as much keys because the energy level dropped a little bit, at certain times during a rinky dink festival. I think that w/ out someone doing something on keys a lot more energy would be lost in many more songs. I think the little extra that is put into the music from the keys is essential for the band in this transitional period
or maybe im wrong...who knows
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I just couldn\'t help noticing/thinking that every time Tim turned to play keys it dropped the energy level.
That\'s the same feeling I get during some of the songs, others were bad but are now better. Might get better with time, who knows?
Finally some people w/ enough guts to actually voice some displeasure w/ the keyboard set-up and the way it does detract from the energy level @ times.
I expect there to be less keyboard playing and more synth tricks from Tim in the future and would not be surprised if the Keys were dropped from most if not all songs. Just a hunch.
I dont think tpalms is going to stop playing as much keys because the energy level dropped a little bit, at certain times during a rinky dink festival. I think that w/ out someone doing something on keys a lot more energy would be lost in many more songs. I think the little extra that is put into the music from the keys is essential for the band in this transitional period
or maybe im wrong...who knows
They are past the transition period believe it!
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they\'re not gonna please absolutely everyone w/ the change, but rest assured the majority of people who have seen the breakfast trio have been impressed, some of which moreso than the foursome. timmy is just starting to get comfortable w/ the key set up, and he\'s not gonna stop using it alltogether, if anything he\'ll get better at knowing when to use it and how to make it work well w/ the jam.
i personally am all for the 3 piece sticking w/ it. they got all the essentials, and no longer have to jam on top of eachother which at times came out as a muddled mess of music. the band is more focused, power driven, and tighter, and they can only get better and better. I can only imagine how much they\'ll have progressed when they return back from this upcoming tour. the freakout is gonna be the tits.
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the freakout is gonna be the tits.
i like boobs....... so i guess that means, keep it up timmy!
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ali- the people at wormtown DO NOT PUT ON RINKY DINK festivals.. they have been very supportive and consistantly banging out h3tty g00dtimezzz for ages now.. go aks your lil brother Jake.... it may not be custaroo but shit......
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this festie was full of waste cases, about 80 percent of the attendees were roll-faced in the woods during the sets that i was there (lucky bastards)
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First off Tim was having technical issues with the Vox synth, which may have cause some of the issues as to why he was looking strange at them and what not....in his words, "the boards were blowing up when i touched them", personally I thought the synth work was some of his most interesting of late....
Regarding Wormtown......most everyone was tripping on acid or *********. I love the small little heady festie....Wormtown does a great job, now lets just get the Breakfast in a slot other than the 4pm doodoo slot.....
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this festie was full of waste cases, about 80 percent of the attendees were roll-faced in the woods during the sets that i was there (lucky bastards)
Come on!! You are in the heart of the masshole valley.....kids roll and trip daily up there!! ;)
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Come on!! You are in the heart of the masshole valley.....kids roll and trip daily up there!! ;)
he ain\'t kidding.
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Not sure why people are knocking Wormtown AGAIN!!!!!!
Mark and Gabriel have been nothing but supportive of the Breakfast for fucking years now. They invite the band to play at everyone of the festivals that they do. Perhaps if any of you fucking slackers ever went to StrangeCreek or Wormtown they might even get a better slot. The worms have given the breakfast headlining spots in 2003 at their festival How many festivals have done that ? (maybe 1 or 2 and that was like this year).
So I make apost about the band not playing the greatest set IMHO and it turns in to the festival is the problem etc etc.
This festival is one of the better festivals in the North east. There is never a search getting in, There is little to no wait to get in ever. You get to camp in the woods like real camping and not shoved together in an open field with no shade. They have music all day some bands start at 4AM in the cabins. Ticket prices at the highest were $70.00 name 1 festival where you get 3 days of music for that price ?
I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band. The crowd for the Breakfast at wormtown (a rinky dink festival as you are saying) was sad. This is in the heart of the bands area and they had a decent sized crowd. RAQ had way more people in front for them rocking out (1 band after the bfast). The crowd size wasn\'t even close. Hell on Sunday for Ryan Montbleau (who I love) they were the 2nd to last band and folks always have a mass exodus on sunday and they still had more people then the Breakfast. The band is either shy or just doesn\'t care. They used to go and mingle with the crowd they haven\'t doent that in years (first time we met Ron he was hangiong out reading by the soundboard). They sometimes do it at bar shows but they are usually never out fostering their own relationships with fans or trying to drum up support for it. I said this to Vallo on Sunday and he took the position that it is the bands job and they usually want to take off. But it is their job to foster support for THEIR BAND and they never do it. They leave it up to others to do. It seems that they are happy with the small tight circle that they have around them, unfortunately that small tight circle cannot fill venues from here to cali.
I love the Breakfast but they need a serious reality check me thinks and so do a lot of you
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I\'ve been saying it for years. Yes, it\'s the bands job, but a little people skills goes a very long way!! The best promotion is self promotion!! When was the last time you say any of the band pass out a flyer??? Maybe 3-4 years ago?
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someone on the terrapin board started a thread about how awesome they thought the breakfast were Thread Here (http://terrapin.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=315322)
i got quite a chuckle out of one of the replies "As a gimic do they throw thomas\' english muffins out to the crowd?" i think adrien should chuck out random breakfast foods, like how other drummers toss their sticks :D :banllama: (i luv the banana llama)
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tim and poophead were passin out cds in burlington.... everyone was in a very good mood that night.... it was eehniiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
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I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band.
I wanted to make the same comment after many of the recent shows only garnered crowds of 50 people. The recurring excuses: "the weather was poor", "there was too much going on locally that night", "the kids are out of school", "the kids are in school but don\'t go to shows on XYZ weekend", "the kids are in school, but studying for midterms" etc. etc.
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yeah.
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tim and poophead were passin out cds in burlington.... everyone was in a very good mood that night.... it was eehniiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
and who exactly is poophead?
someone on the terrapin board started a thread about how awesome they thought the breakfast were Thread Here (http://terrapin.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=315322)
i got quite a chuckle out of one of the replies "As a gimic do they throw thomas\' english muffins out to the crowd?" i think adrien should chuck out random breakfast foods, like how other drummers toss their sticks
1: I\'m pretty sure the guys want to stay as far away from Breakfast food references as they can.
2: after looking at that message board I would like to thank DavePeck, for keeping some amoutn of organization and cleanliness to this board, that one hurts my eys pics in signatures, animated gifs in signatures, ugh, me! brain hurt ugh....
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i got quite a chuckle out of one of the replies "As a gimic do they throw thomas\' english muffins out to the crowd?" i think adrian should chuck out random breakfast foods, like how other drummers toss their sticks :D :banllama: (i luv the banana llama)
In addition to slapping his guitarist across the face with pizza!
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I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band.
I wanted to make the same comment after many of the recent shows only garnered crowds of 50 people. The recurring excuses: "the weather was poor", "there was too much going on locally that night", "the kids are out of school", "the kids are in school but don\'t go to shows on XYZ weekend", "the kids are in school, but studying for midterms" etc. etc.
I have been bummed out about the turnout lately also. I dont think there has been a sudden drop in attendance since Jordo left though, and I dont think people arn\'t coming out because the band is not playing up to par. I dont know what the problem is, promotion maybe? I dont want to be making any excuses, but there has always been doozies. i just dont buy the "The Breakfast wont work w/ out someone on keys." arguement. I dont know how many people are actually saying that, maybe it\'s all in my head..? Btw i agree with Kind M\'s point about the boys needing to mingle with fans more, esp. at a fest like wormtown.
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I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band.
I wanted to make the same comment after many of the recent shows only garnered crowds of 50 people. The recurring excuses: "the weather was poor", "there was too much going on locally that night", "the kids are out of school", "the kids are in school but don\'t go to shows on XYZ weekend", "the kids are in school, but studying for midterms" etc. etc.
I have been bummed out about the turnout lately also. I dont think there has been a sudden drop in attendance since Jordo left though, and I dont think people arn\'t coming out because the band is not playing up to par. I dont know what the problem is, promotion maybe? I dont want to be making any excuses, but there has always been doozies. i just dont buy the "The Breakfast wont work w/ out someone on keys." arguement. I dont know how many people are actually saying that, maybe it\'s all in my head..? Btw i agree with Kind M\'s point about the boys needing to mingle with fans more, esp. at a fest like wormtown.
MORE PROMO!!! my friends in omaha are worried that the upcoming oct 2nd show is gonna be super dooze b/c there has been absolutely no promo at all. they would be doing it themselves, but they told me that the band\'s booking guy told them that they would be sending Ando all the promo materials (since last time, he spent a lot of money on the last 2 shows in omaha, and also b/c there is new promo stuff to plug the new album etc..). however, the booking guy hasnt sent anything to them yet (after many requests i might add..). i might personally write their booking guy an email to quicken up the process, i mean YSMB is also playing in omaha in a couple of weeks and there is more promo for them than the breakfast and their on the same freakin booking agency!! sorry for the thread hijack...
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I fail to see this drop in attendance since Jordan has left. Attendance has been hit or miss since day 1, as far as i can tell w/ very little rhyme or reason backing it. One night there\'ll be a packed crowd in a small market, next night there\'ll be a sparse crowd in a big market city. I\'d love to point the finger at something and get that fixed, but I couldn\'t tell you where to begin.
The band busts their ass on stage on a nightly basis and I can\'t thank them enough for that. Whether it be the Breakfast, Timmy Tour, the Good Time Boys or whatever, everytime I go out and see them they continue to amaze me. You\'d think after seeing a band for 50 + times you\'d see every trick they got in the book, but that couldn\'t be as far from the case. Hopefully this tour will prove to be successful, I know plenty of people from across the nation who are looking forward to their chance to catch them, and there\'s no doubt in my mind that they will give them a good show every chance they get.
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I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band.
I wanted to make the same comment after many of the recent shows only garnered crowds of 50 people. The recurring excuses: "the weather was poor", "there was too much going on locally that night", "the kids are out of school", "the kids are in school but don\'t go to shows on XYZ weekend", "the kids are in school, but studying for midterms" etc. etc.
I have been bummed out about the turnout lately also. I dont think there has been a sudden drop in attendance since Jordo left though, and I dont think people arn\'t coming out because the band is not playing up to par. I dont know what the problem is, promotion maybe? I dont want to be making any excuses, but there has always been doozies. i just dont buy the "The Breakfast wont work w/ out someone on keys." arguement. I dont know how many people are actually saying that, maybe it\'s all in my head..? Btw i agree with Kind M\'s point about the boys needing to mingle with fans more, esp. at a fest like wormtown.
MORE PROMO!!! my friends in omaha are worried that the upcoming oct 2nd show is gonna be super dooze b/c there has been absolutely no promo at all. they would be doing it themselves, but they told me that the band\'s booking guy told them that they would be sending Ando all the promo materials (since last time, he spent a lot of money on the last 2 shows in omaha, and also b/c there is new promo stuff to plug the new album etc..). however, the booking guy hasnt sent anything to them yet (after many requests i might add..). i might personally write their booking guy an email to quicken up the process, i mean YSMB is also playing in omaha in a couple of weeks and there is more promo for them than the breakfast and their on the same freakin booking agency!! sorry for the thread hijack...
DO IT! Email Alex. He is a busy guy but he took the time to answer my email venting my concerns about the band\'s presentation on the Crescendo Website AND within days of the correspondence the problems were fixed!!
I fail to see this drop in attendance since Jordan has left. Attendance has been hit or miss since day 1, as far as i can tell w/ very little rhyme or reason backing it. One night there\'ll be a packed crowd in a small market, next night there\'ll be a sparse crowd in a big market city. I\'d love to point the finger at something and get that fixed, but I couldn\'t tell you where to begin.
The band busts their ass on stage on a nightly basis and I can\'t thank them enough for that. Whether it be the Breakfast, Timmy Tour, the Good Time Boys or whatever, everytime I go out and see them they continue to amaze me. You\'d think after seeing a band for 50 + times you\'d see every trick they got in the book, but that couldn\'t be as far from the case. Hopefully this tour will prove to be successful, I know plenty of people from across the nation who are looking forward to their chance to catch them, and there\'s no doubt in my mind that they will give them a good show every chance they get.
Drop in attendance since Jordan left? I agree w/ Igzi here. There has always been a problem w/ attendance it\'s not the loss of Jordan. It is plain to see that it is mainly do to the band not having a Publicity agent and depending on fan support only.
The MySpace page is the first effort I have seen to put the band in the Mainstream Public\'s eye.
Dave and the fans here that use .info as a gathering place have done a wonderful job of keeping .info @ the top of the list on Google etc. when someone searches for info on The Breakfast but they have to be looking for The Breakfast. That is not a problem w/ MySpace.
As for the upcoming tour, well I doubt they will be selling venues out just based on the crowds last tour. I think it will help the band really figure out their future tour plans though as I think they may rethink some markets now that they are a trio.
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How about this.
Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
It is fucking silly to sit behind your keyboard with what needs to be done. Promotion for a band that no one has every heard of is unbelievably difficult.
My line is thin with how excuses can be made about who should be doing what. Do you think their would be civil rights in this country if those smoked out hippies just sat in their rooms smoking dope and talking about what should be done? NO CHANCE. They got off their asses and went outside and started a revolution.
Get to it. I will post flyers/posters for anyone show you want.
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How about this.
Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
It is fucking silly to sit behind your keyboard with what needs to be done. Promotion for a band that no one has every heard of is unbelievably difficult.
My line is thin with how excuses can be made about who should be doing what. Do you think their would be civil rights in this country if those smoked out hippies just sat in their rooms smoking dope and talking about what should be done? NO CHANCE. They got off their asses and went outside and started a revolution.
Get to it. I will post flyers/posters for anyone show you want.
Uh bro I think the Civil Rights movement was lead by Blacks for Blacks, sure there were hippies backing them but why not? Black Folk had all the kind shit!
As for your venting on people flyering. Ya gots ta chill. Flyering is great but if they have not been heard of by now in the NE after 7 years and 1000+ shows......
I think you can concentrate the flyering effort on the grassroots team across the country.
Oh wait the grassroots team does not exist anymore it\'s now the Wild Pack or something huh?
Well contact those that have signed up w/ that and go there.
Now go smoke a boule and chill yo!
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not even going to get into it.
It was a blanket statement about the flyering and postering which, last I checked every band in America still uses as the #1 source for getting their name out there.
smoke this, broseph!
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not even going to get into it.
It was a blanket statement about the flyering and postering which, last I checked every band in America still uses as the #1 source for getting their name out there.
smoke this, broseph!
:lol: Oh my!
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the fans can definitly do a great deal to suplement the band\'s promotion, but sometimes i dont feel like theres much there to suplement.
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not even going to get into it.
It was a blanket statement about the flyering and postering which, last I checked every band in America still uses as the #1 source for getting their name out there.
smoke this, broseph!
:lol: Oh my!
still can get a crackle, your a good man in my book.
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Wish that book was widely distributed.
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the problem that I see is the plate is too full for the one person who runs grassroots and now that it is being delegated to others you should see a difference in the way it is presented. all you need to do is support your band and stick by them.
if your going to a show, why not bring 20 flyers and make 20 new friends? if you have the extra cds, why not burn 5 copies and bring them with you. If you a regular at a deli or some store, why not ask them to hang a poster for an upcoming show?
the help that is needed is individual, nor do I think it should have to be entirely the .info community that grassroots is relied on. I do think that if we make it a small effort to get 1 poster up or give 20 flyers out at a show, can make a difference.
this board does have members from across the US and a majority in New England and New York, so why not utilize that and make the shows here a sell out and success and the rest will spread. Its all about perception and the perception of this band is not nearly what it should.
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Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
first and foremost, this is NOT directed at you spacey. that said, when a good faith effort is not put forward by the band and their management you cannot fault the fans. where is the grassroots push for each and every show? hell, in the "Dig" forum, which is supposed to help with promotions, .info still has this bit of crap from 2004
Tim Palmieri
Grassroots/Questions
tim@thebreakfast.org
You can also find any contact info at http://www.thebreakfast.org under promo and Contact.
Thanks!
fyi, that URL goes to some empty directory. go to the breakfast.net and their promo page, and the link to find out more about how you can help doesn\'t even take you to an email sign up (http://www.thebreakfast.net/promo.php?promo=grassrootsjoin & http://www.thebreakfast.net/promo.php are EXACTLY THE SAME)
if i was new fan who truely wanted to help out, that information would confuse me and perhaps discourage me from taking further action. fans want it easy, and the current information is making it anything but that.
why is the guitarist leading the charge? where is our designated grass roots leader? i personally am on the street teams for moon boot lover (satellites), ryan montbleau band (bleau crew) and assembly of dust (tavern walkers). we receive emails ASKING US FOR HELP. we receive emails REMINDING US TO HELP.
perhaps i am missing something, but i still cannot find a "sign up" for the breakfast street team (whatever the hell it\'s called). i also happen to live outside of most of the markets they frequently play in, so me flyering would be of no help.
i agree with you spacey, that everyone loves to point out what\'s wrong and who\'s fault it is. but the big finger should be pointed squarely at the organization who has not made it easy for the fans to help out, or when their help is needed urgently. who\'s currently responsible for running the grassroots campaign, still tim?
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When I discovered PB they had a PHENOMENAL Grassroots team headed by one Grayson Brulte.
Spacey is the first fan I have noticed that has the same drive to make Grassroots work since Gray.
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http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2006-09-16.km184.flac16
The Breakfast
September 16, 2006
Wormtown presents The Garden of Eden
Camp KeeWanee
Greenfield, MA
source: Neumann km184> v2> SBM-1 (44.1 kHz)> optical 7-pin> JB3
[DIN 90* FOB DFC]
transfer: JB3> firewire> Sound Forge 6.0> cdWave> FLAC Frontend
taped/transfered by Rob Clarke RobClarke.km184 -AT- gmail.com
disc 1:
01. Sundance ->
02. Wake Up In A Coma ->
03. Sundance
04. jam ->
05. Dimension 5
06. Psygn
07. Love Lake
08. Rust ->
09. Buquebus
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thanks rob!
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Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
first and foremost, this is NOT directed at you spacey. that said, when a good faith effort is not put forward by the band and their management you cannot fault the fans. where is the grassroots push for each and every show? hell, in the "Dig" forum, which is supposed to help with promotions, .info still has this bit of crap from 2004
I have on numerous occassion stated that its the little things that would make the difference here. I hold only the organization responsible for the situation it is in. The "dig" forum is for the .info people and as far as I noticed, anything that happens in there dies either from lack of interest and/or support. I simply was making that statement that there is no need to sit at the computer when we as fans can go out and make a difference in the grassroots. Shit, you will get a free copy of Moxie Epoxy for helping out at the Toads Show.
Tim Palmieri
Grassroots/Questions
tim@thebreakfast.org
You can also find any contact info at http://www.thebreakfast.org under promo and Contact.
Thanks!
fyi, that URL goes to some empty directory. go to the breakfast.net and their promo page, and the link to find out more about how you can help doesn\'t even take you to an email sign up (http://www.thebreakfast.net/promo.php?promo=grassrootsjoin & http://www.thebreakfast.net/promo.php are EXACTLY THE SAME)
if i was new fan who truely wanted to help out, that information would confuse me and perhaps discourage me from taking further action. fans want it easy, and the current information is making it anything but that.
why is the guitarist leading the charge? where is our designated grass roots leader? i personally am on the street teams for moon boot lover (satellites), ryan montbleau band (bleau crew) and assembly of dust (tavern walkers). we receive emails ASKING US FOR HELP. we receive emails REMINDING US TO HELP.
perhaps i am missing something, but i still cannot find a "sign up" for the breakfast street team (whatever the hell it\'s called). i also happen to live outside of most of the markets they frequently play in, so me flyering would be of no help.
i agree with you spacey, that everyone loves to point out what\'s wrong and who\'s fault it is. but the big finger should be pointed squarely at the organization who has not made it easy for the fans to help out, or when their help is needed urgently. who\'s currently responsible for running the grassroots campaign, still tim?
again, I have very little idea what is going on anymore, yet I seem to be in the mix of things.
I have emailed Tim at the .org address and he does receive emails. I have noticed that a lot of the links are dead. I also know how discouraging it can be from every aspect and its not necessary.
I belong to plenty of grassroots organizations on top of being a Homegrown Rep and I have to say that it allows you to see different systems and this one needs change badly.
http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2006-09-16.km184.flac16
The Breakfast
September 16, 2006
Wormtown presents The Garden of Eden
Camp KeeWanee
Greenfield, MA
source: Neumann km184> v2> SBM-1 (44.1 kHz)> optical 7-pin> JB3
[DIN 90* FOB DFC]
transfer: JB3> firewire> Sound Forge 6.0> cdWave> FLAC Frontend
taped/transfered by Rob Clarke RobClarke.km184 -AT- gmail.com
disc 1:
01. Sundance ->
02. Wake Up In A Coma ->
03. Sundance
04. jam ->
05. Dimension 5
06. Psygn
07. Love Lake
08. Rust ->
09. Buquebus
Thanks. Bout time I gots me some new breakfast. How did the recording come out?
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Not sure why people are knocking Wormtown AGAIN!!!!!!
Mark and Gabriel have been nothing but supportive of the Breakfast for fucking years now. They invite the band to play at everyone of the festivals that they do. Perhaps if any of you fucking slackers ever went to StrangeCreek or Wormtown they might even get a better slot. The worms have given the breakfast headlining spots in 2003 at their festival How many festivals have done that ? (maybe 1 or 2 and that was like this year).
So I make apost about the band not playing the greatest set IMHO and it turns in to the festival is the problem etc etc.
This festival is one of the better festivals in the North east. There is never a search getting in, There is little to no wait to get in ever. You get to camp in the woods like real camping and not shoved together in an open field with no shade. They have music all day some bands start at 4AM in the cabins. Ticket prices at the highest were $70.00 name 1 festival where you get 3 days of music for that price ?
I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band. The crowd for the Breakfast at wormtown (a rinky dink festival as you are saying) was sad. This is in the heart of the bands area and they had a decent sized crowd. RAQ had way more people in front for them rocking out (1 band after the bfast). The crowd size wasn\'t even close. Hell on Sunday for Ryan Montbleau (who I love) they were the 2nd to last band and folks always have a mass exodus on sunday and they still had more people then the Breakfast. The band is either shy or just doesn\'t care. They used to go and mingle with the crowd they haven\'t doent that in years (first time we met Ron he was hangiong out reading by the soundboard). They sometimes do it at bar shows but they are usually never out fostering their own relationships with fans or trying to drum up support for it. I said this to Vallo on Sunday and he took the position that it is the bands job and they usually want to take off. But it is their job to foster support for THEIR BAND and they never do it. They leave it up to others to do. It seems that they are happy with the small tight circle that they have around them, unfortunately that small tight circle cannot fill venues from here to cali.
I love the Breakfast but they need a serious reality check me thinks and so do a lot of you
Oh calm down i was just saying it is a small festie...I have never been, so i dont know if it is lame/ser. as long as the breakfast plays there im sure it is a great time.
I know the reality of the bands situation and so do they. Dont think you know the answer to all of their problems.
How about this.
Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
It is fucking silly to sit behind your keyboard with what needs to be done. Promotion for a band that no one has every heard of is unbelievably difficult.
My line is thin with how excuses can be made about who should be doing what. Do you think their would be civil rights in this country if those smoked out hippies just sat in their rooms smoking dope and talking about what should be done? NO CHANCE. They got off their asses and went outside and started a revolution.
Get to it. I will post flyers/posters for anyone show you want.
well then give me some fucking flyers spaceman ;)
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Not sure why people are knocking Wormtown AGAIN!!!!!!
Mark and Gabriel have been nothing but supportive of the Breakfast for fucking years now. They invite the band to play at everyone of the festivals that they do. Perhaps if any of you fucking slackers ever went to StrangeCreek or Wormtown they might even get a better slot. The worms have given the breakfast headlining spots in 2003 at their festival How many festivals have done that ? (maybe 1 or 2 and that was like this year).
So I make apost about the band not playing the greatest set IMHO and it turns in to the festival is the problem etc etc.
This festival is one of the better festivals in the North east. There is never a search getting in, There is little to no wait to get in ever. You get to camp in the woods like real camping and not shoved together in an open field with no shade. They have music all day some bands start at 4AM in the cabins. Ticket prices at the highest were $70.00 name 1 festival where you get 3 days of music for that price ?
I have to say that I am getting tired of the folks on .info who always make excuses for the band. The crowd for the Breakfast at wormtown (a rinky dink festival as you are saying) was sad. This is in the heart of the bands area and they had a decent sized crowd. RAQ had way more people in front for them rocking out (1 band after the bfast). The crowd size wasn\'t even close. Hell on Sunday for Ryan Montbleau (who I love) they were the 2nd to last band and folks always have a mass exodus on sunday and they still had more people then the Breakfast. The band is either shy or just doesn\'t care. They used to go and mingle with the crowd they haven\'t doent that in years (first time we met Ron he was hangiong out reading by the soundboard). They sometimes do it at bar shows but they are usually never out fostering their own relationships with fans or trying to drum up support for it. I said this to Vallo on Sunday and he took the position that it is the bands job and they usually want to take off. But it is their job to foster support for THEIR BAND and they never do it. They leave it up to others to do. It seems that they are happy with the small tight circle that they have around them, unfortunately that small tight circle cannot fill venues from here to cali.
I love the Breakfast but they need a serious reality check me thinks and so do a lot of you
Oh calm down i was just saying it is a small festie...I have never been, so i dont know if it is lame/ser. as long as the breakfast plays there im sure it is a great time.
I know the reality of the bands situation and so do they. Dont think you know the answer to all of their problems.
How about this.
Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
It is fucking silly to sit behind your keyboard with what needs to be done. Promotion for a band that no one has every heard of is unbelievably difficult.
My line is thin with how excuses can be made about who should be doing what. Do you think their would be civil rights in this country if those smoked out hippies just sat in their rooms smoking dope and talking about what should be done? NO CHANCE. They got off their asses and went outside and started a revolution.
Get to it. I will post flyers/posters for anyone show you want.
well then give me some fucking flyers spaceman ;)
thatta girl alli!
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How about this.
Everyone can sit behind their computers and dictate what needs to be done and how they think it will work. GET OFF OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND HIT THE FUCKING STREET WITH POSTERS AND FLYERS. PRINT THEM OUT AND HANG/PASS THEM OUT.
It is fucking silly to sit behind your keyboard with what needs to be done. Promotion for a band that no one has every heard of is unbelievably difficult.
My line is thin with how excuses can be made about who should be doing what. Do you think their would be civil rights in this country if those smoked out hippies just sat in their rooms smoking dope and talking about what should be done? NO CHANCE. They got off their asses and went outside and started a revolution.
Get to it. I will post flyers/posters for anyone show you want.
well then give me some fucking flyers spaceman ;)
well, my friend, give me an email address and I can send you some digital ones until I can see you and hand you the flyers in person.
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alliboisvert@yahoo.com
AIM: alliboisvert
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poophead=gavin
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http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2006-09-16.km184.flac16
The Breakfast
September 16, 2006
Wormtown presents The Garden of Eden
Camp KeeWanee
Greenfield, MA
source: Neumann km184> v2> SBM-1 (44.1 kHz)> optical 7-pin> JB3
[DIN 90* FOB DFC]
transfer: JB3> firewire> Sound Forge 6.0> cdWave> FLAC Frontend
taped/transfered by Rob Clarke RobClarke.km184 -AT- gmail.com
disc 1:
01. Sundance ->
02. Wake Up In A Coma ->
03. Sundance
04. jam ->
05. Dimension 5
06. Psygn
07. Love Lake
08. Rust ->
09. Buquebus
Thanks. Bout time I gots me some new breakfast. How did the recording come out?
Other than some tracking issues it sounds pretty damn good. WUIAC starts @ 4:53 in track 2 and ends @ 1:10 of track 3.
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poophead=gavin
wha what?
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Other than some tracking issues it sounds pretty damn good. WUIAC starts @ 4:53 in track 2 and ends @ 1:10 of track 3.
iiiiiinteresting:muahaha:
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http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2006-09-16.km184.flac16
The Breakfast
September 16, 2006
Wormtown presents The Garden of Eden
Camp KeeWanee
Greenfield, MA
source: Neumann km184> v2> SBM-1 (44.1 kHz)> optical 7-pin> JB3
[DIN 90* FOB DFC]
transfer: JB3> firewire> Sound Forge 6.0> cdWave> FLAC Frontend
taped/transfered by Rob Clarke RobClarke.km184 -AT- gmail.com
disc 1:
01. Sundance ->
02. Wake Up In A Coma ->
03. Sundance
04. jam ->
05. Dimension 5
06. Psygn
07. Love Lake
08. Rust ->
09. Buquebus
Thanks. Bout time I gots me some new breakfast. How did the recording come out?
Other than some tracking issues it sounds pretty damn good. WUIAC starts @ 4:53 in track 2 and ends @ 1:10 of track 3.
Rob\'s recording usually come out superior from the ones I have. I can live with tracking problems.
How\'d Buquebus come out?
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buquebus came out fine. there\'s a short period where the sound goes out in rust, but thats because of a certain sound engineer\'s error.
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a certain sound engineer\'s error.
:doh:
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a certain sound engineer\'s error.
:doh:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
big ups to Rob C. tap3r extrordinaire...
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all i have to say is promo!!!!!! look at the last Toad\'s show and you\'ll see what happens when a good group of people pull together and hand out promo materials (that being said where are my Toad\'s coupons). I\'m not saying every show will be like that but come on, how are people going to know the band is gonna be in town if no one tells them ( i have a local paper that has all the show happenings but i honestly check it once a month maybe). i do everything i can to get people into shows and if i saw half as much effort as some people put out there wouldn\'t be any reason why there can\'t be 100+ people at every show. shit give people a couple dollar break if they bring in a flyer, I\'ve handed out flyers and told people if they see me at the next show and come say hi and i\'ll buy them a beer. and in Spacey\'s defense who do you think pays for the flyers some of you received...... Spacey..... i haven\'t seen any effort from management to get a couple hundred flyers in peoples hands that are in the areas of shows. to not get those Omaha guys promo materials is absolutely ridiculous, they\'re begging for that shit.
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poophead=gavin
:wave:
(real dick ;)
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they should always play LoveLake like this!!!! nice an uppitty, like a simpleton or a Funky Bill\'s (almost, but you know) the quickness works well to show off Adrian\'s skills and Timmy can fill in notes left and right.. Igzy you were right about it having some ballzzzz...
<<< no longer a hater...
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I don\'t lie. the lake of love is not a dream.
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:wave: i still drink the \'Love Lake\' flavored haterade......
:duck:
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they should always play LoveLake like this!!!! nice an uppitty, like a simpleton or a Funky Bill\'s (almost, but you know) the quickness works well to show off Adrian\'s skills and Timmy can fill in notes left and right.. Igzy you were right about it having some ballzzzz...
<<< no longer a hater...
:that:
I first heard Love Lake @ the Knitting Factory in NYC, and thought it was a snoozer :banzzz:
But I just heard the Nectar\'s version & it kicks ass! I\'ve also been converted :thumbsup:
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here\'s a great review. (I\'m not sure exactly how to properly credit the author so I hope no one is offended - see link):
http://melodytrip.com/Community/blogs/undergroundb/archive/2006/09/18/920.aspx
"While U-Melt was struggling to leave the fest that wouldn\'t let them go, The Breakfast took stage with a sound best described, in the words of dreadlocked fairie queen, as "half Ted Nugent and half Rush." Stunned that they taught Nuge and Canadian Power Trios in Fairie Academy, I was even more amazed that damn if I couldn\'t hear some "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" crossed with "La Villa Strangiata" coming off the stage. Like the ever-ambling U-Melt, the first meal of the day has a new CD, Moxy Epoxy, out and they debuted the first song, "Psygn," a slow-groovin\' tune that has a bit of Strangefolk, Phish and late-model Red Hot Chili Peppers to it. Not a bad breakfast at all."
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Breakfast is beyond comparison... especially beyond comparison to Ted Nugent (puke)
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don\'t fuck w/ the Nuge. i\'d rather them be compared to that then strangefolk. stranglehold, bitch.
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don\'t fuck w/ the Nuge. i\'d rather them be compared to that then strangefolk. stranglehold, bitch.
No doubt... for starters my gun collection is a little skimpy :biggrin: