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Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: davepeck on April 28, 2006, 11:16:06 pm
I: Wake Up In A Coma > Future Peek, Rufus > Tricky Ways, The Late And The Great > Over Exposure > The Chase

Opened for The Wailers.


Thanks to bezerker for the call!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 28, 2006, 11:43:22 pm
Rufus in a supporting gig?  I hope that the Wailers crowd was rocked sufficiently.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: davepeck on April 28, 2006, 11:47:08 pm
a couple things i know:

- the show was sold out in advance.

- you can thank the House Of Blues™©® for not allowing the show to be recorded.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 28, 2006, 11:55:54 pm
Of course it was not recorded.
Bummer folks because this is a great example of knowing your audience AND fitting a schedule.

WUIAC>FP as i have mentioned FP has huge potential for mass appeal.

Rufus>TW reggae flavor coupled w/ a bluesy (read easy to digest) jam

Late>Over>Chase well come ON! Reggae flavor in Overexposure and a pow ending w/ The Chase!

WOW!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: davepeck on April 29, 2006, 12:03:10 am
it\'s a long shot, but i\'m hoping the taper that i hooked up with the $30 guest-list slot to the sold out show took the initiative to stealth it, when he got to the door and found out open taping wasn\'t going to be allowed.. ;) not getting my hopes up though..
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Spacey on April 29, 2006, 08:54:57 am
I hope the people dug the b\'fast.

Just the kind of setlist I was expecting for this show. Nicely done.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Todd on April 29, 2006, 09:40:32 am
Quote from: davepeck
a couple things i know:

- the show was sold out in advance.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Aniiiice!!!

Quote from: davepeck
- you can thank the House Of Blues™©® for not allowing the show to be recorded.
:sigh: :no: That\'s SER bull feces!!!!

Quote from: davepeck
it\'s a long shot, but i\'m hoping the taper that i hooked up with the $30 guest-list slot to the sold out show took the initiative to stealth it, when he got to the door and found out open taping wasn\'t going to be allowed.. ;) not getting my hopes up though..
:keeps fingers and toes crossed: That is a beautiful looking and very smart setlist!!!!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FrankZappa on April 29, 2006, 09:48:38 am
glad rufus made it. Would have liked to have seen a pbb as well.

[evil]So I hit them upside the head with a phaddy boom baseball bat - my name is mud![/evil]
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Spacey on April 29, 2006, 10:10:16 am
PBB would of been a great tune to play.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gordo on April 29, 2006, 01:01:46 pm
the show last night was fucking sick.. the band was so tight. sold out crowd, place was packed to the t.
first off, the music: i thought WUIAC was a great opener to loosen up. with a crowd that big and a venue that sick they had to be nervous, but they settled down immediately with WUIAC.
Future Peek was really cool. i think the song has a nice chill vibe, the melody is a bit obvious but it still feels good. the jam rocked the fucking place, well at least some were rocked (ill comment on that later). huge peak in FP.
Then Rufus. you knew it was coming, i wasnt sure when in the set. most people kind of bobbed around for the intro until the reggae groove dropped, and the place was definitely feeling it. best moment for the crowd all night was the first verse from Rufus. it got loud for a little while and the huge crowd was finally moving collectively. Rufus jam = :jawdrop: :drool:  they absolutely tore it up, felt like they were beating the shit out of their instruments. sooo much energy and perfect transition into the slower jam at the end. the segue into..
Tricky Ways was absolutely fitting for the HOB. honestly i didnt care for the song first time i heard it on Thursday night, but they ripped it up last night. it was great and most of the crowd seemed to enjoy the vibe during it. i like the song a lot now, it makes for solid switches and diversity in sets for the future.
The Late And The Great > Over Exposure was my highlight of the evening. beautiful jam in tLaTG, and a smooth seg into OE after the explosion at the end. ive been jonesin for a live Over Exposure and it did NOT let down. this song is a goddamn beast. Ellis-D was absolute $$$ on lights. great moment was when tim busted out his rant (i guess its about Blubladan and the drug or whatever the song is about) and Ellis was on cue dropping a spotlight on him with a black backdrop, and then just throwin colors around during the dance groove. the song just owned me.
The Chase was typical, i thought it made sense cuz the song is easier to grasp for noobs.

just one comment about the crowd, Large in numbers and Small by nature. there were a handful of people gettin down but for the most part people seemed confused. Gavin said he heard a few people yelling "too many notes". I heard there were 1200 people in the sold out show, and ONE person bought a cd from Gavin. we had to vent for awhile over the issue.

Jordan was still ecstatic about the feeling he got playing on a stage like that with a pool of heads under lights and their music. the sound was phenomenal too. i was in front of a huge cabinet of speakers Sequoia side, so everything sounded fantastic. i think Gencs said he thought the guitar couldve been turned up. but shit, it was a special night for me. running up the stairs of my favorite venue and hearing WUIAC blaring from the stage was quite a feeling. i just wish more people understood the music. i guess thats what you get when you open for a crowd there for some laid back reggae.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: obsession600 on April 29, 2006, 01:59:27 pm
Quote from: Gordo
Jordan was still ecstatic about the feeling he got playing on a stage like that with a pool of heads under lights and their music.

This is very encouraging.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kyndkate on April 29, 2006, 07:04:40 pm
Last night was great. I missed WUIAC because I got stopped at the door and had to check my camera in (they wouldn\'t allow taping OR cameras...bitches). I ran my way in and squeezed to the front rail right between Tim and Ron. I was getting down with some friends, but I could tell that some people weren\'t digging it. I just kept dancing my ass off. Gencs found me in the crowd and I got my first real sweaty-Gencs hug (gross, but I love the kid). Got a chance to meet Gordo, too.

The lights were spectacular - Greg didn\'t spare any expense when it came to using the HOB\'s light board to its full potential. He caught nuances and peaks like nobody\'s business and it really added to the big-show feel. Everyone played their hearts out. Tim said he was weirded out at first because he had so much room to move onstage (when usually he has to play in a tiny square), but he totally rocked out after he got comfy with the hugeness.

Gencs and I got some people to sign up for the mailing list, but I think all the rastas were a little overwhelmed. They were ready to chill to some reggae and got their faces melted off instead and didn\'t know what to do. :) I think after all was said and done, the entire band/crew was in a good mood and then everyone went out and had fun. Latenight was spent at the bars downtown until past 4, it was a great time.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: sallyalli on April 29, 2006, 10:15:24 pm
Nice avatar Kate, how is Stevie doin out there? Good to see his snoring has not gotten him smothered with a pillow as predicted ;)
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kyndkate on April 29, 2006, 10:42:40 pm
Stevie is being good, actually. We didn\'t lose him last night, thank God (downtown Chicago). He bought some doses off of a friend of mine, he was going to take 2 and my friends that were already tripping from the same sheet were like NOOOO BAD IDEA! We convinced him to only take one, and it\'s a DAMN good thing cause he was feeling mighty fine...anyway, he wouldn\'t stop playing with my hair last night and commenting on how long it is. He came up with "Indiana Corn Silk" and we all couldn\'t stop laughing :)

That kid is having the time of his life right now, and I had SO much fun with him this week. I LOVE YOU GENCS, even if you smothered me in sweat last night! :D

I think a few PTers are going to the Cabooze tonight, I\'ll have to get back with them to do a review (can\'t remember if Gordo\'s going or not).

To sum up last night in a few pics:

(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8952/january061873es.jpg)
(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9412/january061814bh.jpg)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1266/january061805ia.jpg)
(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5253/january061777wz.jpg)
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gfunk on April 30, 2006, 12:05:08 am
Quote from:
yowza! too many notes?! whatareyanutts!!!!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: estahwhaddup on April 30, 2006, 12:25:03 am
have some friends from omaha at the cabooze right now, will try to have them post a review as well.  recruited a lot of first timers too (including my bestest friend)!!  hopefully they\'ll dig the show.  i\'m expecting late night drunken dials once the show is over
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 30, 2006, 12:27:53 am
Imagine that. A crowd not there for The Breakfast confused by the music emanating from the stage. Too Many notes. :lol:
And people wonder why I think it SO important for Tim to chill in his playing sometimes.
For The Breakfast crowd he can do what ever he wants and most eat it up, the masses that have no clue abt The Breakfast and their style can be overwhelmed within the first few measures of most Bfast songs.

Oh well it sounds like a great gig anyway.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gfunk on April 30, 2006, 01:22:54 am
lieth, just cause the masses might not "get" the band, i don\'t think that means tim should "chill". i don\'t really think that is the answer to all the breakfast\'s problems. if the breakfast started sounding more like tlg i would be pissed. should they change their sound to appeal to the masses? i hope they dont have to.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 30, 2006, 01:38:15 am
Quote from: Gfunk
lieth, just cause the masses might not "get" the band, i don\'t think that means tim should "chill". i don\'t really think that is the answer to all the breakfast\'s problems. if the breakfast started sounding more like tlg i would be pissed. should they change their sound to appeal to the masses? i hope they dont have to.


Well even Tim knows he needs to "chill" every once and awhile and that is a reason he is ACTIVELY seeking how he can do that in his style of playing. As for being the answer to all their prbblems I never said it was and don\'t worry The Bfast will NEVER sound like TLG. Thank goodness for that.

Oh and if you have not noticed the Breakfast sound may not have changed but the songwriting has and most of the songs being debuted are WAAYY more appealing to the "masses".

Also there is a difference in playing for a crowd not there to see you and a crowd there devoted to you. I thought the setlist was perfect for the audience and was surprised @ reports of folks not getting it.

Thank God the guys knew better than to play a Buquebus in front of that crowd.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gfunk on April 30, 2006, 02:01:36 am
well, i do like most all the new songs, good things is f\'n great and i think that is one of their more poppy songs, i just don\'t want to see all of their new material going in that direction. also, i think a buquebus is pretty much always a crowd pleaser. keep it intense-balls-to-the-wall. the rastas cant be that stoned to appreciate good music. and lieth i\'m not trying to talk shit right now, i\'m just doin a little drinkin\' and postin\'.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 30, 2006, 02:09:41 am
Dude if they could not handle Rufus there is no way they could handle a Buquebus :lol: and from the reports of 2 folk that were there the rastas WERE too stoned to appreciate good music.

I am sure a raging beast of a song is awaiting in the wings no worries.


oh and it\'s Leith not lieth. thanx.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gfunk on April 30, 2006, 02:16:45 am
soory brah. i just thought i before e. like i said i\'m drinkin\' & postin\' right now, i\'m not paying special attention too detail. you are probably right though, i\'m not really worried that the bfast is gonna turn into a pop-jam band like umphreys or tlg.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 30, 2006, 02:18:32 am
No worries man. I enjoy reading your points of view.

Drunken nonsense or not. ;)

I gotta work early. g\'nite!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Me! on April 30, 2006, 11:31:06 am
Quote from: davepeck
a couple things i know:

- the show was sold out in advance.

- you can thank the House Of Blues™©® for not allowing the show to be recorded.

I remember when they played at the House of Blues in cambridge they had this same policy, I snuck in a ghetto mic and had it set on a table on the side they saw it and booted me, I got bavk in but it was a bummer none the less.  in that sense HOB def sucks......   (sidenote it was the HOB w/ Mori Syles and it was the first time I saw Space odittty)
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: obsession600 on April 30, 2006, 03:45:27 pm
I\'m surprised that HOB does not offer recordings for a fee.

I have a Tenacious D dvd from HOB in LA but I think the camera owner got the light board operator to shoot it from a stand by his board.

I think the band did a good job of tailoring the setlist to the crowd. If you get too extreme making it audience-friendly then you are going to piss off the converts when they go to a "real" show and find a band they don\'t recognize.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: bdfreetuna on April 30, 2006, 04:38:12 pm
I think Tim should play as many notes as he possibly can.

First time I saw Breakfast the only song that really stuck out in my memory was Gladys Pimp. So I guess some people can handle lots of notes.. and they might turn out to be some of the bands more dedicated followers.

I also get just as stoned as any rasta can and can handle my 16th notes ;)

Something about the suggestion that Breakfast should start catering/dumbing-down their music to appeal to the masses just fucks with my head. Breakfast will never be a band for the masses as long as David Gray keeps bustin out hits. Screw the masses anyway, we all know we have superior taste in music.

There are plenty more potential Breakfast fans to be found. To me it sounds like an insult to say "oh this song must have been written for the south/midwest/whatever" or "tim should chill out in his playing so new fans aren\'t confused why there are so many notes"... forget it man-- upward and onward!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FreeSpirit on April 30, 2006, 05:56:31 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna
I think Tim should play as many notes as he possibly can.

Something about the suggestion that Breakfast should start catering/dumbing-down their music to appeal to the masses just fucks with my head. Breakfast will never be a band for the masses as long as David Gray keeps bustin out hits. Screw the masses anyway, we all know we have superior taste in music.

There are plenty more potential Breakfast fans to be found. To me it sounds like an insult to say "oh this song must have been written for the south/midwest/whatever" or "tim should chill out in his playing so new fans aren\'t confused why there are so many notes"... forget it man-- upward and onward!

:that: The band has made it this far with their own personal style... it seems to be working just fine - so i say, "keep on playin\' the crazy notes & melting faces!" :stoned:
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on April 30, 2006, 09:22:42 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna
I think Tim should play as many notes as he possibly can.

First time I saw Breakfast the only song that really stuck out in my memory was Gladys Pimp. So I guess some people can handle lots of notes.. and they might turn out to be some of the bands more dedicated followers.

I also get just as stoned as any rasta can and can handle my 16th notes ;)

Something about the suggestion that Breakfast should start catering/dumbing-down their music to appeal to the masses just fucks with my head. Breakfast will never be a band for the masses as long as David Gray keeps bustin out hits. Screw the masses anyway, we all know we have superior taste in music.

There are plenty more potential Breakfast fans to be found. To me it sounds like an insult to say "oh this song must have been written for the south/midwest/whatever" or "tim should chill out in his playing so new fans aren\'t confused why there are so many notes"... forget it man-- upward and onward!



I have no idea where you read a suggestion The Breakfast should start catering/dumbing down their music . It seems to me you have read insult into some posts.

The fact is Tim has SAID he is trying to learn how to "chill" in his playing in SPOTS.
It does not mean he is trying to change his playing at all but rather GROWING as a guitarist and learning how to take more advantage of the space BETWEEN all of those notes.

I guess the accessibility of some of the newer songs is just coincedence huh?
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kyndkate on April 30, 2006, 10:26:12 pm
I\'ll admit there were a few times at Uncle Fester\'s on Wednesday where I looked at my buddy and said, "Damn, I need a breather!" Sometimes they just go and go and go...it should be a musical orgasm rather than a musical aneurysm. You can climax and totally feel it, but eventually you\'re going to need a cigarette break.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gfunk on April 30, 2006, 11:29:46 pm
^sally ;)
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FrankZappa on May 01, 2006, 05:01:51 am
I\'ve got to dissagree with some of you here. I can understand trying to make it with the main stream, and if it is something the band is trying to do that is fine. However, Imagine any of these situations:

"Hey Beatles, this rock and roll thing is on it\'s way out and no one likes it - the people who like you are just a couple of kids that won\'t amount to anything. Try some polkas if you really want to make it. That\'s what people like these days."
"Hey Grateful Dead, no one likes this long jamming thing. Play some 3 minute pop music or you\'ll never get anywhere."
"Hey Nirvana, I can\'t understand your lyrics. Also, your gutarist sucks. Play some real music, like the album RATT just put out. Now that\'s a good band."
"Hey Metallica, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."
"Hey Breakfast, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."



my 2cents.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: derickw on May 01, 2006, 09:05:19 am
Quote from: FrankZappa
I\'ve got to dissagree with some of you here. I can understand trying to make it with the main stream, and if it is something the band is trying to do that is fine. However, Imagine any of these situations:

"Hey Beatles, this rock and roll thing is on it\'s way out and no one likes it - the people who like you are just a couple of kids that won\'t amount to anything. Try some polkas if you really want to make it. That\'s what people like these days."
"Hey Grateful Dead, no one likes this long jamming thing. Play some 3 minute pop music or you\'ll never get anywhere."
"Hey Nirvana, I can\'t understand your lyrics. Also, your gutarist sucks. Play some real music, like the album RATT just put out. Now that\'s a good band."
"Hey Metallica, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."
"Hey Breakfast, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."



my 2cents.



so now Metallica= the Breakfast...... give us a Ride the Lighting
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2006, 10:54:38 am
Quote from: FrankZappa
I\'ve got to dissagree with some of you here. I can understand trying to make it with the main stream, and if it is something the band is trying to do that is fine. However, Imagine any of these situations:

"Hey Beatles, this rock and roll thing is on it\'s way out and no one likes it - the people who like you are just a couple of kids that won\'t amount to anything. Try some polkas if you really want to make it. That\'s what people like these days."
"Hey Grateful Dead, no one likes this long jamming thing. Play some 3 minute pop music or you\'ll never get anywhere."
"Hey Nirvana, I can\'t understand your lyrics. Also, your gutarist sucks. Play some real music, like the album RATT just put out. Now that\'s a good band."
"Hey Metallica, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."
"Hey Breakfast, your too fast. If you want people to listen to you, slow down."



my 2cents.



Beatles were a POP band before they got heady.

Grateful Dead is the only band in this list that proves your point

Nirvana had almost overnight success and were very marketable to the era. grunge was becoming the \'in\' thing in the early 90\'s. If cobain hadn\'t killed himself they would have faded into obscurity.

Metallica. basically sold out to become mega-superstars. Ride the lightening, Killem all, Master of Puppets, all were strictly geared for metal heads. the black album and everything since geared towards MTV crowd with a hint of metal
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: derickw on May 01, 2006, 11:06:54 am
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 11:55:10 am
Quote from: derickw
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.


uh and The Breakfast are pioneers of what genre of music?
I mean they are the most original band in this scene to us but if you listen to them from an unbiased point and it is obvious they are following a pattern musically set by Frank Zappa and building a fanbase ala Phish.

This band is good but by no means in the catagory of The Beatles or Grateful Dead.

YET!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: derickw on May 01, 2006, 12:24:34 pm
Quote from: leith
Quote from: derickw
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.


uh and The Breakfast are pioneers of what genre of music?
I mean they are the most original band in this scene to us but if you listen to them from an unbiased point and it is obvious they are following a pattern musically set by Frank Zappa and building a fanbase ala Phish.

This band is good but by no means in the catagory of The Beatles or Grateful Dead.

YET!



I made no reference to the Breakfast in my post. i was just disputing Kindm\'s theory

Quote from: derickw
Quote from: leith
Quote from: derickw
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.


uh and The Breakfast are pioneers of what genre of music?
I mean they are the most original band in this scene to us but if you listen to them from an unbiased point and it is obvious they are following a pattern musically set by Frank Zappa and building a fanbase ala Phish.

This band is good but by no means in the catagory of The Beatles or Grateful Dead.

YET!



and i don\'t know about the Zappa pattern theory, Zappa was more comic story telling balls to the wall music. i personally don\'t think..... lyrically that analogy fits maybe musically

I made no reference to the Breakfast in my post. i was just disputing Kindm\'s theory
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 12:30:46 pm
Quote from: derickw
Quote from: leith
Quote from: derickw
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.

uh and The Breakfast are pioneers of what genre of music?
I mean they are the most original band in this scene to us but if you listen to them from an unbiased point and it is obvious they are following a pattern musically set by Frank Zappa and building a fanbase ala Phish.

This band is good but by no means in the catagory of The Beatles or Grateful Dead.

YET!


I made no reference to the Breakfast in my post. i was just disputing Kindm\'s theory


and i don\'t know about the Zappa pattern theory, Zappa was more comic story telling balls to the wall music. i personally don\'t think..... lyrically that analogy fits maybe musically

ahh I see.
Yeah The Breakfast are following Zappa\'s model to a certain degree. It has been mentioned before in the way they approach their music and shows. Makes sense.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FrankZappa on May 01, 2006, 12:47:48 pm
I was implying metallica at the begining around kill em\' all. I should have thought about post black album before writting that.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2006, 03:29:09 pm
Quote from: derickw
^^^ I\'d have to disagree with you Kindm. all well except for Metallica were pioneers in there gene of music. noone played anything like there sound those few bands paved the way for everyone else to copy.


What theory would that be?

I was commenting on frankzappa\'s post about going mainstream and the bands he mentioned.

The beatles were a pop band before they went off on the musical exploration they are known for today.

Nirvana might have been pioneers of grunge but they had "mainstream" success very quickly.

Metallica had mainstream success with albums like the \'black\' album etc etc
it took them longer to break through probably because it was metal. Metal was huge in the late 80\'s and then focus changed to grunge then to hiphop where it has basically stayed with the exceptions of booty shaking half shirt wearing hotties

Grateful Dead were never successful in the mainstream. They were the highest grossing tour almost every year but \'mainstream\' america didn\'t have anytHing to do with that.

If you want to discuss wether they were pioneers of their genres it might hold more weight but the Grateful Dead were/are an extension of Americana, of old blue grass standards of delta blues and etc etc. There business model and ways of doing things were pioneering. The technical leaps that the industry took and technologies invented can be directly attributed to the Grateful Dead and their crew. So in that respect they were pioneers

Metallica specifically james Hetfield basically sings identical to Glenn Danzig. that \'ahhhra\' at the end of everything he sings is Glenn Danzig. I love Metallica. Probably in the top 5 bands I have seen live. They bring it for sure. (this was in 1992)

I was commenting on "mainstream" success
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: derickw on May 01, 2006, 04:09:35 pm
i guess they weren\'t theories just the analogize used. though the Beatles were pop they brought it to a whole new level as far as the business aspect of it goes before they went off, i think since they were so popular/ successful it kind of gave them the leeway to try something different. Nirvana brought metal to whole new level feeding the American youths desire to rebel and creating a counter culture revolved around those beliefs. I was never really into Danzig so i can\'t comment on the chicken or the egg portion of that, but i was into Metallica who i feel opened metal up and brought it to a whole new level right up until they sold out on the Black album. and the Grateful Dead well.... they might have been a blend of a bunch of different genres but they created there own from that blend. i think these bands all came from a particular genera but by being different and concentrating on doing there own thing and not listening to the Billboard top 50 expanded and created there own genre.

all in all i think we are saying the same thing but got to the point by different means.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FrankZappa on May 01, 2006, 04:33:04 pm
Quote from: derickw
all in all i think we are saying the same thing but got to the point by different means.


:that: thanks derick! I didn\'t think anyone was getting the point I was trying to make. Well said.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2006, 04:57:08 pm
well atleast we can all get together and listen to great music. metallica, the beatles, Grateful Dead, The Breakfast those are some nice choices for music IMHO

so whens the party ?
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: FrankZappa on May 01, 2006, 05:32:06 pm
you bring the pizza and some cash, I\'ll get the music and adrian. That\'s all you need for a slapping good time!
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Todd on May 02, 2006, 01:16:01 am
Quote from: FrankZappa
you bring the pizza and some cash, I\'ll get the music and adrian. That\'s all you need for a slapping good time!

rotfl:lol:rotfl I think the next Hotel TKA is going to be a pizza party!!!! :D
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gordo on May 02, 2006, 07:20:28 pm
The Breakfast is by far my favorite band. I\'d love to see Tim slow down some more, draw out notes a little more often. dont get me wrong, his runs are absolutely sick and no doubt what separates him, but id have no problems waiting just a little longer for those back-breaking moments. theyd have more substance in the long run, instead of being one in a billion.

at the same time, who gives a fuck.. there are four reasons they rock my nuts off, and the guitar is one. as long as they stay together and keep loving music, ill be there loving their music.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: obsession600 on May 02, 2006, 08:14:47 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s
well atleast we can all get together and listen to great music. metallica, the beatles, Grateful Dead, The Breakfast those are some nice choices for music IMHO

I\'m happy to say that each of those bands has dominated my cd collection at some point in time.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: derickw on May 03, 2006, 10:57:29 am
Quote from: Todd
Quote from: FrankZappa
you bring the pizza and some cash, I\'ll get the music and adrian. That\'s all you need for a slapping good time!

rotfl:lol:rotfl I think the next Hotel TKA is going to be a pizza party!!!! :D



make mine with extra ********* ;)

Quote
The Breakfast is by far my favorite band. I\'d love to see Tim slow down some more, draw out notes a little more often. dont get me wrong, his runs are absolutely sick and no doubt what separates him, but id have no problems waiting just a little longer for those back-breaking moments. theyd have more substance in the long run, instead of being one in a billion.

at the same time, who gives a fuck.. there are four reasons they rock my nuts off, and the guitar is one. as long as they stay together and keep loving music, ill be there loving their music.


a la Phish 30 second dramatic pause
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Todd on May 03, 2006, 12:24:05 pm
Quote from: derickw
Quote from: Todd
Quote from: FrankZappa
you bring the pizza and some cash, I\'ll get the music and adrian. That\'s all you need for a slapping good time!

rotfl:lol:rotfl I think the next Hotel TKA is going to be a pizza party!!!! :D



make mine with extra ********* ;)

There will be NO *********....or daycare at the next one!!!! ;)
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: dannybiscuits on November 18, 2009, 04:09:44 pm
Quote from: davepeck;103405
I: Wake Up In A Coma > Future Peek, Rufus > Tricky Ways, The Late And The Great > Over Exposure > The Chase

Opened for The Wailers.


Thanks to bezerker for the call!


Quote from: davepeck;103410
a couple things i know:

- the show was sold out in advance.

- you can thank the House Of Blues™©® for not allowing the show to be recorded.


Quote from: Gordo;103455
the show last night was fucking sick.. the band was so tight. sold out crowd, place was packed to the t.
first off, the music: i thought WUIAC was a great opener to loosen up. with a crowd that big and a venue that sick they had to be nervous, but they settled down immediately with WUIAC.
Future Peek was really cool. i think the song has a nice chill vibe, the melody is a bit obvious but it still feels good. the jam rocked the fucking place, well at least some were rocked (ill comment on that later). huge peak in FP.
Then Rufus. you knew it was coming, i wasnt sure when in the set. most people kind of bobbed around for the intro until the reggae groove dropped, and the place was definitely feeling it. best moment for the crowd all night was the first verse from Rufus. it got loud for a little while and the huge crowd was finally moving collectively. Rufus jam = :jawdrop: :drool:  they absolutely tore it up, felt like they were beating the shit out of their instruments. sooo much energy and perfect transition into the slower jam at the end. the segue into..
Tricky Ways was absolutely fitting for the HOB. honestly i didnt care for the song first time i heard it on Thursday night, but they ripped it up last night. it was great and most of the crowd seemed to enjoy the vibe during it. i like the song a lot now, it makes for solid switches and diversity in sets for the future.
The Late And The Great > Over Exposure was my highlight of the evening. beautiful jam in tLaTG, and a smooth seg into OE after the explosion at the end. ive been jonesin for a live Over Exposure and it did NOT let down. this song is a goddamn beast. Ellis-D was absolute $$$ on lights. great moment was when tim busted out his rant (i guess its about Blubladan and the drug or whatever the song is about) and Ellis was on cue dropping a spotlight on him with a black backdrop, and then just throwin colors around during the dance groove. the song just owned me.
The Chase was typical, i thought it made sense cuz the song is easier to grasp for noobs.

just one comment about the crowd, Large in numbers and Small by nature. there were a handful of people gettin down but for the most part people seemed confused. Gavin said he heard a few people yelling "too many notes". I heard there were 1200 people in the sold out show, and ONE person bought a cd from Gavin. we had to vent for awhile over the issue.

Jordan was still ecstatic about the feeling he got playing on a stage like that with a pool of heads under lights and their music. the sound was phenomenal too. i was in front of a huge cabinet of speakers Sequoia side, so everything sounded fantastic. i think Gencs said he thought the guitar couldve been turned up. but shit, it was a special night for me. running up the stairs of my favorite venue and hearing WUIAC blaring from the stage was quite a feeling. i just wish more people understood the music. i guess thats what you get when you open for a crowd there for some laid back reggae.


This was so long ago I decided to give you guys some of the back story of the thread. I have been sitting on this video for ever know and have always meant to put it up. This show was definitely special and I can only assume was one of the breakfasts biggest to date. I filmed a little bit of Over Exposure and thought ya\'ll might like seeing it.



You gottsta enjoy seeing these guys on a big stage playing in front of that iconic House of Blues Logo:bansplit::brocban::bansplit:
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: leith on November 18, 2009, 04:26:26 pm
Thank You for the vid clip.
Title: Setlist: 2006-04-28 - House Of Blues; Chicago, IL
Post by: Gordo on November 18, 2009, 07:13:16 pm
Niiice. Nostalgia bruta.