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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on September 18, 2005, 06:30:00 pm
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So I know we all are constantly thinking of ways to help the band. The call for donations to this site produced a few donations but what if a fund was set up for direct use by the band to get them out of the NE area?
I mean $5 from each member will get them crosscountry and back. I\'m talking about one big push. Dave can send out an email to each member informing them of the fund w/ a link to it. We can take our time and allocate the $$ for a Spring Tour, so the guys can really throw down a nice long tour on the Nation. Down South over to the West Coast and back through the Midwest. I\'m talking a tour some folk may even want to tour with for a week or 2!
So what do you all think? I know I got $5 ready!
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what do i get out of them leaving new england? either way, this is a lame idea alltogether. i pay to see them plenty, i don\'t need to pay for other people to see them too.
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ehhh...I think the fans paying them to go on tour may be a little overboard leith
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I think they make enough money to do it
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ehhh...I think the fans paying them to go on tour may be a little overboard leith
No not really. This band has struggled in the NE area for this long AND wasted ALL of their momentum from a Jammy win. I consistently hear the reason they do not tour is $$. So they play over and over to the same 100 or so people in the same places. Wowing audiences ANYWHERE they go OUTSIDE of the NE area. They have had to use $$ to replace equipment and make a studio album,I understand that. I just think that they need help more than their management is able to acquire for them.
If the fanbase really wants to see this band take off and we all know when they tour they gain more fans why would one be opposed to such a fund?
Yeah it may seem ridiculous but how many of you guys would actually be on the tour? So it really would not be for the fans in the NE area other than to see their band get out and maybe noticed a bit more.
It may seem farfetched but can you tell me another way they can raise $$? They OBVIOUSLY have trouble saving $$ for a tour as evidenced in the complete lack of a Breakfast appearance in over a year and a half this side of the Rockies. So a onetime donation to help Springboard(pun intended) them on their way next year seems like a worthwhile endeavor to me. Guess it does not to you.
I think they make enough money to do it
You think wrong. They would have been on tour by now. CONFIRMED!
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they are starting to get paid a lot more on a consistent basis.
A big fall tour outside the NE is coming anyway.
I\'m sure they will take the extra money though if you want to give it to em :P
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they are starting to get paid a lot more on a consistent basis.
A big fall tour outside the NE is coming anyway.
I\'m sure they will take the extra money though if you want to give it to em :P
Oh yeah but going from being underpaid to almost what you\'re worth is just making it. Believe me.
If by big fall tour you mean a few dates in the south and midwest to PAY for 1 WEEK out west which is what is planned now than ok I guess you settle for less than I do.
Yeah extra money like they have any money. They are lucky to have a lighting guy willing to be paid near nothing AND drag his own lights around much less a topnotch Sound Engineer the likes of Josh Dobson who is worth leaps and bounds what they can afford to pay him. Yeah they could use any help a concerted fan effort would give them now while they really need it. Guess they won\'t find help here.
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If your expecting more than whats planned for the tour I think your asking for too much. It seems perfect to me for the level they are at. I am sure there is plans to do more extensive nationwide tours in the future, but one step at time guy! They will do this tour, own it, come back regroup and do it again stronger and bigger alittle down the road.
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The fact that this thread even exists is totally degrading to the band. They would never actually go for it, but if they did then they would have to play the entire tour facing backwards because they would have no right to look their fans in the eye.
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maybe they should jsut sign up for welfare and use food stamps to eat on the road. then maybe we could get a decent tour.
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And anyone who ever "donated" to this "cause" without giving 100 times more to hurricane relief could never show their face at a show either. Look, go to all the shows, buy merch, spread CD\'s, write reviews, that\'s all well and good. But I can\'t think of anything more humiliating than a band collecting "donations" from their fans. Ugh.
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If your expecting more than whats planned for the tour I think your asking for too much. It seems perfect to me for the level they are at. I am sure there is plans to do more extensive nationwide tours in the future, but one step at time guy! They will do this tour, own it, come back regroup and do it again stronger and bigger alittle down the road.
Dude they have gone BACKWARDS from where they were just a couple of years ago when it comes to touring. It was a Priority and hopefully it will again become a Priority.
Of Course there are PLANS to do nationwide tours if there was not I would be worried. The thing is every one of those plans need money. Where they gonna get it? I personally believe this band would be bigger if they did not run into problems having their stuff stolen and the problem retaining management.
So when they do come back from this mini tour hopefully they will have broken even if not made a few bucks. So now they toured and broke even or made a bit, what now? Oh I guess they go back to playing the same..... It\'s a vicious circle and I can name @ least 10 bands that are going through the same thing but maybe the thing that helps push this band over these obstacles is us the fans. Maybe but I\'m kind of doubting that now.
And anyone who ever "donated" to this "cause" without giving 100 times more to hurricane relief could never show their face at a show either. Look, go to all the shows, buy merch, spread CD\'s, write reviews, that\'s all well and good. But I can\'t think of anything more humiliating than a band collecting "donations" from their fans. Ugh.
That\'s the POINT of the fund that the fans GIVE to the band. W/O them asking. If they had $$ they would tour point blank. If we as fans can help then we should. It is in no way degrading to give something to someone or something you care about.
As for donations to Hurricane Victims I am sure everyone here realizes there are priorities in life.
Oh and as for the band not going for it. I have yet to meet a band that would turn away money freely given to them.
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It is in no way degrading to give something to someone or something you care about.
Maybe not, but it\'s downright humiliating for a band if they take money from their fans to cover their own problems. As if the fans didn\'t already do enough for this band. I can\'t believe we\'re even having this conversation. Fortunately this band has some fucking pride and would never stoop to something as degrading and pathetic as accepting gas money donations from fans.
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pump and runs could also save on gas too.
just blame it all on ellis if shit goes down :lol:
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It is in no way degrading to give something to someone or something you care about.
Maybe not, but it\'s downright humiliating for a band if they take money from their fans to cover their own problems. As if the fans didn\'t already do enough for this band. I can\'t believe we\'re even having this conversation. Fortunately this band has some fucking pride and would never stoop to something as degrading and pathetic as accepting gas money donations from fans.
Oh OK so how they get the money from us makes a difference? I see. So now if this band was making plenty of $$ from their gigs to pay their staff and not have to work in any form other than the band I could see your point. They don\'t and will not for a looong time. So we wait another 6 years and have this same conversation. Fine by me.
Pride is the downfall of many a good man has been and will continue to be.
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Leith, it\'s your money. If you want to give it to The Breakfast for gas money, go ahead. I\'m just glad they wouldn\'t take it.
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if they cant make it on thier own then it wasnt meant to be
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stop this madness!!
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if they cant make it on thier own then it wasnt meant to be
So the Dead was not meant to be? It is a KNOWN fact that due to the kindness of a fairly rich(due to selling ***) crazy guy into Sound named Owsley"Bear" Stanley that supported the band financially and buying them sound gear, the Dead were able to survive. If I were rich I would do the same. I guess they would just turn it away and keep struggling along. Yeah great for the fans. pffft.
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they would have survived without it because it was meant to be
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i\'m gonna donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
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they would have survived without it because it was meant to be
That\'s not what they thought. Every one of the members of the original GD has said(at one time or another) that if Bear had not been there, GD would not have been what it became. He basically assured they had a roof over their head, food, drugs, and gear. Things they could not afford for themselves.
They were so grateful they dedicated an album to him Bear\'s Picks which was exactly that his picks.
I\'m not saying The Breakfast is in such dire straits as that but the nature of this thread lies in my belief that just like the Dead, The Breakfast could use a break.
I guess no one else thinks so. So I\'ll go along w/ the "make your own luck" beliefs here. We\'ll see how that plays out in a few years.
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ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
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i\'m gonna donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
Should have already been done Guy. but good for you though.
ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
Yeah ok. I told Wolf I would let it lie. So now that you\'ve chipped in I\'m done. If I ever hit the lottery remind me not to throw any cash your way. ;)
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i\'m gonna donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
Should have already been done Guy. but good for you though.
ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
Yeah ok. I told Wolf I would let it lie. So now that you\'ve chipped in I\'m done. If I ever hit the lottery remind me not to throw any cash your way. ;)
yea,i usually only read initial posts,posts 2 lines and less and my own posts,so i missed the one towards mr.wolf..leith,i can agree that your intentions are as kind as can be,but we gotta just let them do what they gotta do.
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i\'m gonna donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
Should have already been done Guy. but good for you though.
ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
Yeah ok. I told Wolf I would let it lie. So now that you\'ve chipped in I\'m done. If I ever hit the lottery remind me not to throw any cash your way. ;)
yea,i usually only read initial posts,posts 2 lines and less and my own posts,so i missed the one towards mr.wolf..leith,i can agree that your intentions are as kind as can be,but we gotta just let them do what they gotta do.
Actually it was in a PM so I\'ll just say here. WhOOOPSSS Sorry. Don\'t mind me I just care TOO much for the band. I\'ll watch out for that in the future. I\'ll make sure to only buy merch and my ticket in. Seeing as I have paid for every gig even the ones they put me on the guest list for or did lights for them I may as well keep doing that at least.
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ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
i think there\'s tons of truth in this here post. the master gig list consists of shows in states everywhere in the country, all before new year\'s. hopefully everything works out and they get their break by busting out to the right people. dont get me wrong leith, i think it\'s great you\'re trying to help the band, but i think we already do enough for them as it is.....like driving 4 hours everytime you see them or flying all the way across the country to see/ support them, we do enough
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i\'m gonna CONTINUE TO donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
Should have already been done Guy. but good for you though.
^^fixed. shoulda worded that differently.
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i\'m gonna donate to katrina relief, thanks though.
Should have already been done Guy. but good for you though.
ok,im pretty sure the main reason they havent hit the road really is because on 6/10 they totaled their tourvan.thatll hurt a potential tour.i have seen the master gig list,and theres some shit going on.honestly,if everyone just keeps doing what theve been doing,itll be more of a help for the band than sending them a few hundred bucks and a slap in the face..
Yeah ok. I told Wolf I would let it lie. So now that you\'ve chipped in I\'m done. If I ever hit the lottery remind me not to throw any cash your way. ;)
yea,i usually only read initial posts,posts 2 lines and less and my own posts,so i missed the one towards mr.wolf..leith,i can agree that your intentions are as kind as can be,but we gotta just let them do what they gotta do.
Actually it was in a PM so I\'ll just say here. WhOOOPSSS Sorry. Don\'t mind me I just care TOO much for the band. I\'ll watch out for that in the future. I\'ll make sure to only buy merch and my ticket in. Seeing as I have paid for every gig even the ones they put me on the guest list for or did lights for them I may as well keep doing that at least.
leith,newsbreak,guy..
your not the only one who cares about the band..send em money,i wont try to stop ya.i tip my cap to ya matter of fact..
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i\'ll throw down 5 bucks for ellis to get some more intellis and a power cord for the strobe
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^^^^ ellis is buying 2 new lights this week do to not having to pay rent he thought he did have to
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i\'ll throw down 5 bucks for ellis to get some more intellis and a power cord for the strobe
Nope. If they are meant to have a killer light show Ellis will find the $$ on his own. Isn\'t that how it works?
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^^^^ ellis is buying 2 new lights this week do to not having to pay rent he thought he did have to
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I guess that is how it works
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SICK. Just in time for rev hall. did he get the 4th one back yet too?
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^^^ he\'s currently got 2 working. one is out and one is in the shops. justin you should a seen the ser shit he worked with in rhode island the other night. black lights, strobe lights, extra heady colored ones along with his = some really sick work
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^^^ he\'s currently got 2 working. one is out and one is in the shops. justin you should a seen the ser shit he worked with in rhode island the other night. black lights, strobe lights, extra heady colored ones along with his = some really sick work
justin??????????
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^^^^^^^^ yeah the curly haired ny yankee hat glasses wearin ny guy
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strobes = CLUTCH
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^^^^^^^^ yeah the curly haired ny yankee hat glasses wearin ny guy
yes,i happen to know this shadyass fellow pretty darn well.and heres what i know...
klout=klout
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^^^^ well sometimes the REAL name slips out. you\'ll have that
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whateva....
GABO!!!!!!!
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no doubt the klout
ya know what I\'m about
knockin ninjas out
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I guess that is how it works
Yeah but who\'s paying the rent he does not have to so he can buy the lights?
See it comes down to being lucky enough to have people help out every once in awhile. I was just thinking if we all helped out at the same time... Guess I was wrong.
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no doubt the klout
ya know what I\'m about
knockin ninjas out
Props back up, suckers get smacked up
Don\'t doubt the klout, you know what I\'m about
Knocking niggaz off, knocking niggaz out
Shaking em up, waking em up
Raking em up, breaking em up...
Standing on shaky grounds too close to the edge
Let\'s see if I know the ledge
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Leith you should just be the bear of the breakfast. Sell everything you own, take out some loans if u have to, buy them a bus, a mobile card, some new lights, and a some other new toys and go on tour with them and give out millions of mics of the best L ever to the band and all the fans and I am SURE they will blow up then :D
no doubt the klout
ya know what I\'m about
knockin ninjas out
Props back up, suckers get smacked up
Don\'t doubt the klout, you know what I\'m about
Knocking niggaz off, knocking niggaz out
Shaking em up, waking em up
Raking em up, breaking em up...
Standing on shaky grounds too close to the edge
Let\'s see if I know the ledge
fuckin right
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
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Leith you should be the bear of the breakfast. Sell everything you own, take out some loans if u have to, buy them a bus, a mobile card, some new lights, and a some other new toys and go on tour with them and give out millions of mics of the best L ever to the band and all the fans and I am SURE they will blow up then :D
LOL Like that has NOT crossed my mind.
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
proof that things work out the way they should. Just be patient.
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klout,when you joinin us brah??
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
Those are the best breaks. And that is what I was talking about when I said they were lucky to have a lighting guy that is willing to do what Ellis does. It is a sacrifice for sure.
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klout,when you joinin us brah??
when the breakfast relocates to NY
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the lord works in mysterious ways
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
proof that things work out the way they should. Just be patient.
Yeah how many more times am I gonna hear that? Yeah take this for whining all you want but if they have only gotten this far in 6 years... Forget it. I was supposed to drop this. Damn you Klout! (shakes fist in air)
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klout,when you joinin us brah??
when the breakfast relocates to NY
stop acting mad...
ill score ya a job,and you could live with gabo and georgie porgie puddin and pie..
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the lord works in mysterious ways
Yeah like having their shit stolen not once but twice, having their van trashed.
Yeah the Lord is all about The Breakfast.
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
proof that things work out the way they should. Just be patient.
Yeah how many more times am I gonna hear that? Yeah take this for whining all you want but if they have only gotten this far in 6 years... Forget it. I was supposed to drop this. Damn you Klout! (shakes fist in air)
Regardless of the lack of funds and number of years they have been playing things are looking VERY UP for the breakfast.
At least in my eyes they are.
The shows this year have been unreal next level shit again and again and there is still 3.5 months left.
people are catching on. The fire is spreading rapidly.
There is of course the possibility that the breakfast is too intense and too raging to ever catch on HUGE. It could just be over too many peoples head. Even if they dont make it all the way to the top everyone in the breakfast SHOULD be able to walk away happy and be proud of what they have accomplished MUSICALLY, assuming they continue to keep raging at this pace and dont sell out. money isn\'t everything
If they are truley good enough to make it all the way to rock star status it is going to happen one way or the other and the ussual bumps and snags on the road to super stardom isn\'t going to stop it.
End of Story.
klout,when you joinin us brah??
when the breakfast relocates to NY
stop acting mad...
ill score ya a job,and you could live with gabo and georgie porgie puddin and pie..
ok I\'ll pack my stuff right now freddy.
PSYCHE!
New Haven smells like Jersey
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^^^^ actually he ready payed for this months rent last month, and he forgot. ellis works a lot actualy, even tho it may not be hard work (coffee shop), he pulls his weight. his mom doesnt pay for his rent, he lives off himself. he got a break and he didnt even realize it.
proof that things work out the way they should. Just be patient.
Yeah how many more times am I gonna hear that? Yeah take this for whining all you want but if they have only gotten this far in 6 years... Forget it. I was supposed to drop this. Damn you Klout! (shakes fist in air)
Regardless of the lack of funds and number of years they have been playing things are looking VERY UP for the breakfast.
At least in my eyes they are.
The shows this year have been unreal next level shit again and again and there is still 3.5 months left.
people are catching on. The fire is spreading rapidly.
There is of course the possibility that the breakfast is too intense and too raging to ever catch on HUGE. It could just be over too many peoples head. Even if they dont make it all the way to the top everyone in the breakfast SHOULD be able to walk away happy and be proud of what they have accomplished MUSICALLY, assuming they continue to keep raging at this pace and dont sell out. money isn\'t everything
If they are truley good enough to make it all the way to rock star status it is going to happen one way or the other and the ussual bumps and snags on the road to super stardom isn\'t going to stop it.
End of Story.
Yeah things are def. looking up as they have many times in their short career.
I just hope it keeps going up. Yeah they are very acquired taste but that is another thread.
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New Haven smells like Jersey
Ouch.
Blame the metrosexuals and their hairspray that make up 90% of the Staven population
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Sorry Leith, but I would pay for them to stay in NE. I\'m kinda selfish that way! :wink:
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First of all, if the band started to write songs or work in jams that are more textured and not as "raging" it would not be selling out!!! A band needs to mature and their sound needs to adapt and expand and sometimes change...not for anyone else but the members of the band. I am not saying it will definitely because I am not in the band, but I for one hope new songs equal new avenues of musical expression and maybe new genres of music not already held down by the Breakfast. As long as it is a slow progression it should be a welcome addition by all, and will(which is what everyone wants) expand their fanbase.
They have their shorter crafted songs now with most of the songs on RR, and they have their raging, proverbial balls-to-the-wall rockers from the past. I would love to see some composed multi-sectional monsters,the likes of tGFSoT); which have sections built in for vast sonic explorations in which they can build whole layered sounscapes that anchor monstrous second sets. Possibly some polyrythmic numbers that Animal could explore that acoustic setup from "The Big Bang";(Remember, I have already volunteered to help him lug that shizzy around the country if need be). Songs to change up the tempo of a set. More quirky, avant-garde like song structures such as "Lit". Slow introspective songs like "Vera St."
I actually hope that in 3-4 years when the band is playing the Nokia Theatre for a 3 night NYE stand in front of 2200 people, that shows are long, multi-textured journeys that summon the ghosts of Coltrane and Miles; while toying with the ideas layed forth by Garcia and a now defunct 4-some from VT. All the while having a unique, much sought-after, undeniably Breakfast sound.
Thanks for your time.
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^^ Walsh you describe show dynamics. Something I have been harping about for the past year. It is something they suck at right now but they are learning. I say they suck at it now only due to the fact that when they do try and bring a show to a mellow point, they lose the crowd and people bitch that the "energy" was lost. I personally think they do a fair job of bringing in the slower songs but then I LIKE the slower stuff so... I hope they do start exploring textural jams more and give us something along the way of a 20-30min. GBFBITS w/ a multi-textured jam smack dab in the middle.
.Sorry Leith, but I would pay for them to stay in NE. I\'m kinda selfish that way! :wink:
lol Totally understood.
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Here is a for instance and I know that it was a cover album set but there is a moment at about 4:20(not surprisingly) in "Within You..." from the Sgt Pepper\'s set, that they had the crowd spontaneously bursting into clapping, the entire room was enveloped in textural sound that(again I know this was not the idea of this set, but it can apply to other times) could have been explored and expanded ten-fold and really caused orgasmic responses. This song, first of all, should be taken over by the band and become a feature cover that they could bring down the house with. Second of al the jam they could have gotten into with this song playing off of the main theme and morphing it into their own only to bring it back later in the set, show, week, etc. Layering sounds and stripping away others until there is just this undulating pulsating rythmic monster that no one could get away from. The Breakfast have songs that they can do this to of their own now, but could also construct new songs to build off of this idea.
There does need to be a careful balance of when and where slower more contemplative songs should appear(i.e.Vera); and the band needs to feel out their audience to find those times of course. There is no formula for it. The Dead were amazing at this concept, in my mind, and rarely placed a slower or fro that matter spacier song/jam in the wrong slot(not to say it NEVER happened). Phish, for the most part also was good at this(except for Wading encores-love that song but really!). This concept and idea would be made easier by some songs/ jams that had more textural(slower for lack of a better word)parts or jams to them for the crowd wouldn\'t be so shocked by the tempo change. Shows with loping peaks and valleys and textural segues/jamming get to be almost hypnotic and would keep an audiences energy and focus no matter what the tempo of a song/jam.
Now, that said there is always going to be those who want nothing but BALLS-TO -THE-WALL RAWK, and that is fine...in it\'s place. But after watching the Acoustic Cafe show I saw that the band can keep people melting with slower more emotionally packed jams.
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You guys have made some great points about show dynamics. Heavy touring can definitely help out in that department.
Regarding the subject of raising money: Here are some ideas for new merchandise.
1) Turkey Tour 2004 box set
2) Zone 2
nothing too fancy, just a small "fan club" run, single page insert etc.
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Breakfast Mafia, supplying your touring needs since 1993.
LOL.
Or Breakfast Mafia, we have "youthful offenders to burn" :)
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I dont think the word mafia should be associated with a bunch of italians from east haven....
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Once "serheads" gets too trendy and everyone stops saying it, the new name for fans should be The Breakfast Mafia!
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Once "serheads" gets too trendy and everyone stops saying it, the new name for fans should be The Breakfast Mafia!
it\'s been done.i cain\'t say who....but there are members of this board who are in the moe.fia (who says you cain\'t choose your family). this doesn\'t mean that it\'s off limits......but would be kind of lame IMO.
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:hscratch: Don\'t we all contribute to TPalms & "donate" to his cause by tipping his tip jar?
Not that I TOTALLY agree w/ Leith, but since we\'re doing it at the solo shows, couldn\'t the Breakfast put out a tip jar too? :chin::?:
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:hscratch: Don\'t we all contribute to TPalms & "donate" to his cause by tipping his tip jar?
Not that I TOTALLY agree w/ Leith, but since we\'re doing it at the solo shows, couldn\'t the Breakfast put out a tip jar too? :chin::?:
um.....no! this would be the most unprofessional thing ever. do you think the venues that are paying them might not care for it. t/palms books himself with the understanding that the majority of his stipend that evening will come from his tip jar. if the breakfast were to try something like this....it would signify the beginning of the end. a benefit show to raise funds to tour would be a whole different issue IMO.
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Good point... so let\'s do a benefit show... we\'ve all been talking about it long enough - when TPalms lost his equip, and the van was dead, we all spoke of helping raise money... good ideas were brought up (like having it at the UAC or Annex Club), but never delivered. I think it\'s time for us to help out. And I know that most of us are BROKE (me included), but I spend enough @ the bars & on drinks, etc. that it would be nice to have a night where my money was actually going towards something more productive than driving home, gripping the wheel, with one eye shut.
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moe.fia...whatever. Only the most Italian band ever is worthy of such a title. Let\'s send Al Schneir to Sally\'s, he\'ll get charged the Jew tax and they\'ll probably throw cheese-whiz on the pie when he asks for "cheese" instead of "mooz".
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I would say that having everything that starts with the sound "mo" being put as i.e.
moe.st
moe.ron
moe.fia
Would remind me of being the smurfs not anything to do with mafiosos;)
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if i ever walk into a breakfast show,and see a tipjar on the stage,i crack someone in the mouth,and jet...confirmed..
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Thank GAWD you weren\'t in Block Island...check the gallery;)
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Thank GAWD you weren\'t in Block Island...check the gallery;)
actually,im not really sure i wanna
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want to give the band some money?
Pick up a 7th Annual Fonghoulish Freakout Tee!
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When the equip. got stolen and we were speaking of fund rasing...Im pretty sure i remember the band not being down for it. I think that they want to get by on their own. Maybe thats just the vibe i get.
nice promo dave!
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When the equip. got stolen and we were speaking of fund rasing...Im pretty sure i remember the band not being down for it. I think that they want to get by on their own. Maybe thats just the vibe i get.
nice promo dave!
nice=absolutely shameless
bravo!!
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If you guys are so hell bent on throwing some kind of benefit......
How about a benefit for yours truly....
The breakfast could play....
you know all the proceeds would end up going to the band in some way, shape, or form anyway....and blammo....everyone is happy.....
I didnt want to do it, but I kinda had to with the way this thread is going....
And actually SCREW that idea....why dont we have a .info benefit.... That way WE ALL benefit from the proceeds.....
I think we should leave the breakfast money issues to their management....for now that is ;)
and buy a friggin tshirt for the sake of pete ;)
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moe.fia...whatever. Only the most Italian band ever is worthy of such a title. Let\'s send Al Schneir to Sally\'s, he\'ll get charged the Jew tax and they\'ll probably throw cheese-whiz on the pie when he asks for "cheese" instead of "mooz".
no....only the fans who thought of it first and did something about it are worthy of such a title. sounds like sour grapes to me. although i\'m not sure, i don\'t think al is jewish. i\'m trying to figure out how this figures in. i wonder if meyer lansky would get charged the tax.
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In light of the successes from kick starter I'd say I was ahead of the times huh? Too bad no one listened. Kung fu is great and all but......
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huh?
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In light of the successes from kick starter I'd say I was ahead of the times huh? Too bad no one listened. Kung fu is great and all but......
You waited 7 years to revisit this thread and say I told you so? Jesus man...when people donate on kick starter they are actually buying something. You donate 10 bucks to see an album recorded and you get the album when it comes out...plus more perks based on the amount you donate. Thats why it works. The breakfast didn't have the resources in 2005 to hand out freebies for the people that donated. And that's exactly why a kick starter for a tour wouldn't work. "give us money so we can tour and other people who didn't pay for us to come out can see us." never would have worked and never will.
And Kung fu is incredible. They are killing shit right now and have no signs of slowing down. Stevie wonder tribute in Feb? Who else in this business could pull that off? Nada one. You should be happy that you still get to hear your favorite musicians play music and even happier that they have found an outlet to grow as musicians and do what the always wanted to do. You should be the happiest that they still give enough of a shit about their fans to play fusionfest and heads in harmony. I think they have done what they need to make sure that they will always have their careers in music. The doors that have been opened and will open for Tim and Adrian because of Kung fu are infinite. Chris will see the effects as well now.
Learn to enjoy what is happening and not be spiteful about the breakfast's shortcomings.
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meh. Kung Fu is okay, but lets not go overboard....
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It took me a short while to get over the idea that I won't really be traveling to see music any more. No more Breakfast and Phish has reached novelty act status IMO. Fortunately a lot of good music happens in my town every week and there's weekly funk/jazz jams at Bishops (where Tim has played a few times with Z3.. when Tim is not there the rest of the guys play with other guest musicians).
To me most jam music has always sounded like shit including Phish when they're not on top of their game. The Breakfast was one of very few exceptions. I saw quite a few Kung Fu shows earlier on but it's not something I can get into on a repeat basis.
They are very good in Kung Fu. But it's not really my kind of jam, and my own life is opening up opportunities and changes in priorities which make it impossible for me to follow a band or even really go see them unless it's something I really want to do. I prefer lately to see more variety of music and mostly do so locally.
Again I wish all the musicians the best of success and also musical fullfillment and I hope these two things go hand in hand. I listened to some Breakfast for the first time in months the other night and it brought back great memories and was great to listen to.
If The Breakfast were to return for some bizarre reason it's highly unlikely that I would be able to follow them the way I did for a decade or so , even if I wanted to.
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It sounds like you are not exactly happy with some of the changes in your life, but you see the potential for your own growth and you are accepting where you are at. You are very fortunate to live in a place that gets a variety of good music. I like NoHo :) Variety is the spice my brother, as they say ;)
Maybe its my rose colored glasses and maybe its just because the Breakfast makes such incredible music that I will be ready to hit the road when they are ready to play. I haven't outgrown traveling and going to shows and I hope I can continue to be able to do that kind of stuff. Music is vibration and their music resonates in the right parts of my brain. !!Funk-A > Merge > Rufusssssss > Taboo!! I'm always busy so when I get the chance to really listen and relax more times than not I am putting on a Breakfast show.
I know when the guys return and play NoHo or the Berkshires somewhere that we will tip a few back and revel in the vibes. 8) 8)
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It took me a short while to get over the idea that I won't really be traveling to see music any more. No more Breakfast and Phish has reached novelty act status IMO. Fortunately a lot of good music happens in my town every week and there's weekly funk/jazz jams at Bishops (where Tim has played a few times with Z3.. when Tim is not there the rest of the guys play with other guest musicians).
To me most jam music has always sounded like shit including Phish when they're not on top of their game. The Breakfast was one of very few exceptions. I saw quite a few Kung Fu shows earlier on but it's not something I can get into on a repeat basis.
They are very good in Kung Fu. But it's not really my kind of jam, and my own life is opening up opportunities and changes in priorities which make it impossible for me to follow a band or even really go see them unless it's something I really want to do. I prefer lately to see more variety of music and mostly do so locally.
Again I wish all the musicians the best of success and also musical fullfillment and I hope these two things go hand in hand. I listened to some Breakfast for the first time in months the other night and it brought back great memories and was great to listen to.
If The Breakfast were to return for some bizarre reason it's highly unlikely that I would be able to follow them the way I did for a decade or so , even if I wanted to.
Your "Sphere of influence" so to speak shrinks when you get older. I used to say GD shows within 8 hours were a definite yes for example. Now that I'm older and I am sure it is true for everyone, the amount of free time you have is split amongst the many responsibilities and people that are in your life. I still love going to see shows but these other commitments or responsibilities keep you closer to home. Add to that you get pickier about where you are willing to see shows and what you are willing to put up with and......
I will say this. It was great getting out recently to catch some shows, it gets the energy flowing again and you remember why you loved it so much. Kind of like skiing.
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Well said sir. The sphere, be aware of the sphere!
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Maybe we can pay them to play a show/festival in upstate NY in 2013?????????
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And Kung fu is incredible. They are killing shit right now and have no signs of slowing down. Stevie wonder tribute in Feb? Who else in this business could pull that off? Nada one.
Learn to enjoy what is happening and not be spiteful about the breakfast's shortcomings.
I would guess there are a ton of musical acts that could pull of a Stevie Wonder tribute show. Who else could do that? Are you ser? Are you saying Kung Fu nailed Stevie Wonder both instrumentally and vocally? This I doubt, let's get real, Stevie Wonder signs like an angel. As a tribute, lots of bands could play Stevie Wonder and lots of bands do from time to time.
I was never spiteful about The Breakfast's shortcomings because they are the best live band I've ever witnessed.
I have no desire for Kung Fu to slow down, in spite of my only occasional desire to see them personally. I do have a desire for The Breakfast to play shows again, even if it's in the time they have between Kung Fu mini tours or whatever. Tim, Adrian, Jordan, and Chris have all juggled multiple acts before and presently. So I just hope they are able to make time for what I believe is the best act each of them have singularly and as a whole.