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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Marcial on July 17, 2005, 01:58:15 am

Title: From the PT WSP Board.....
Post by: Marcial on July 17, 2005, 01:58:15 am
Posted by "GavinE"


Ever heard of The Breakfast? (formerly know as Psychedelic Breakfast). With their new album out, Real Radio, things are really starging to take off for them. This band will make a more advanced, technical setlist on the spot than any other band in the entire world could even possibly imagine, and pull it out like they were born for it, which is why they will be the next biggest touring sensation since Phish. Ronnie Spears can hold down any bassline, plus a few extra notes, and pimp the shit out of it. With his slapping, and quick fingers he lays down the foundation which the band lives on. Jordan Giangreco is the most unique part of the band, where he does amazing organ, rhodes, and synthesizer work, making sounds more advanced and insane than the ears can really handle. Adrian Tramontano is hands down the best drummer in music these days. This man, nick-named "Animal" due to his unbelievably furry of drum beats behind the set, plays extraordinarily advanced beats to match the extra long compositional changes such as songs like Tribal Funk Affliction, Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2), Wildpack of Asscracks, Rufus, and the Grand Scheme of Things to name a few. Adrian\'s drum solo has plenty of potential to be the most intense part of a Breakfast show, and that is saying A LOT. His drumming ability will make old men who have followed music for decades cringe with disbelief...that no one can match man. Last of the four, Tim Palmieri, is the genius behind it all. Timmy\'s guitar playing is the best I have heard since Jimi Hendrix...and i consider them about dead even. Timmy will make the best guitarists in the world want to go home and practice. His ridiculously fast fingers make it sound like there are 2 guitarists at times. Timmy is the most consistent guitarist, every night pulling out the craziest jam right when you thought the last version couldn\'t get any better. That is the best thing about this band. Every show is better than the last, which makes it impossible to stop seeing them. So friends, after reading this, I want to tell you all that someday very soon, The Breakfast will own your face. I guarantee it.

watch out moe. down
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Post by: Ant-Man on July 17, 2005, 02:18:53 am
Quote from: Marcial
Posted by "GavinE"





Bezerker?
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Post by: Igziabeher on July 17, 2005, 02:28:39 am
Quote from: Marcial
From the PT WSP Board.....


and the PT moe. board, and the PT Biscuits board, and probably a couple others too.
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Post by: bezerker on July 17, 2005, 04:11:48 am
why the hell not ? !

:)

i got bored and took the review i made from that shit talking magazine guy and switched the first couple sentences.  figured i\'d try to get the word out a little bit.  hard core shit talkers though !
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Post by: boombox on July 17, 2005, 07:57:58 am
Nice work!! :)
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Post by: Buquebus on July 17, 2005, 11:15:23 am
gavin- how come you didn\'t post it on the Barney Board?? Cheeseheads are people too.
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Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2005, 11:18:05 am
Well Done!!!

Good to see it. Bezerker way to take charge. I thought for a moment that I was going cry with joy. Good strategy hitting up other message boards and \'fluffing\' the band.
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Post by: bryank on July 17, 2005, 04:42:45 pm
i posted on Phishhook and this was a couple of the replies...

"Breakfast fans really remind me of a weird cult or something. I\'m almost afraid to listen to them because it seems like the music might be brainwashing some of their followers."

"I\'m a big fan of the breakfast, but hyping them like that and saying they are the best and each guy is the best at what they do is more likely to turn people off than to turn them onto the music."

"When we were waiting in line at Coventry the guys in front of us had some Breakfast and I had some UM we ended up trading some shows, I really like them. That was probably the best time I had that whole weekend."

"i\'d say most of us are non-cult (there are a couple though...) but what it comes down to, i think, is that this band is so freakin\' talented, so mind bogglingly good, that we don\'t understand why more people aren\'t absolutely apeshit for them."
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Post by: Gfunk on July 17, 2005, 06:56:18 pm
"i\'d say most of us are non-cult (there are a couple though...) but what it comes down to, i think, is that this band is so freakin\' talented, so mind bogglingly good, that we don\'t understand why more people aren\'t absolutely apeshit for them."

this is exactly how i feel. especially when you introduce their music to someone who is a lover of music, especially jam music.
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Post by: obsession600 on July 17, 2005, 08:20:40 pm
Wait. We aren\'t a cult?
*Puts robe back in closet. Extinguishes candles on Timmy altar*
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Post by: kyndkate on July 17, 2005, 09:47:53 pm
Igziabeher and I are working on converting the Panic board...I just posted that I\'ll be doing those sampler pass-outs next Wednesday at Deer Creek, and anyone who wants one can catch me on Shakedown.
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Post by: ChrisF on July 17, 2005, 09:57:22 pm
Quote from: bryank


"I\'m a big fan of the breakfast, but hyping them like that and saying they are the best and each guy is the best at what they do is more likely to turn people off than to turn them onto the music."


i agree with this statement. you guys should be careful what you say because if you sound like a hardcore fan it will make people want to run in the other direction. i usually just prefer to hand someone my favorite recording and let me music speak for itself.
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Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2005, 10:31:11 pm
It\'s tough to win an arguement when you say that this is better then that. It is human nature to defend yourself. There is a better way to approach the whole thing. Another thiing is you want to be able to post Breakfast "fluff" on that board again. If you come with your six shooters out of the gate, people are going to be dicks and non-responsive, just create negative energy and comments.

With that said, good work to all, keep it going.
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Post by: WALSH on July 17, 2005, 11:18:36 pm
Now is a good time to go after Panic fans bc there are alot talking down the sound they have going...Marcial, is this not true?  I felt the last time I was checking their board that there were ALOT of negative posts about the Red Rocks shows.  Get recruiting.

By the way the PT Bisco board had some good things to say.
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Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2005, 11:27:01 pm
Bisco fans are usually legit enough to at least give it a try.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 17, 2005, 11:43:00 pm
I\'m excited to see what Panic fans are going to say after they listen to the samplers I\'m giving out. I wrote the .info and .org URLs on the front of the sleeves, so hopefully we\'ll have some new faces on the boards in a couple weeks.
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Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2005, 11:43:54 pm
It seems that our favortie troll is talking shit about the band and how they will never develop past a bar/club band. Screenname on Phishhookm is Phishmoe24, look it up if you want to know who I mean.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 17, 2005, 11:44:58 pm
Is that guy on PT too? There are a couple douche nozzles ripping on the Breakfast threads there.
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Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2005, 11:46:04 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
I\'m excited to see what Panic fans are going to say after they listen to the samplers I\'m giving out. I wrote the .info and .org URLs on the front of the sleeves, so hopefully we\'ll have some new faces on the boards in a couple weeks.



kyndkate - Good work on converting. Hope it all goes well and it\'s warm recieved. Make sure to let us know how it goes. Are you giving out the Gordo Samplers?

Quote from: kyndkate
Is that guy on PT too? There are a couple douche nozzles ripping on the Breakfast threads there.


that troll has been el banis from .info for some time now.
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Post by: Marcial on July 18, 2005, 08:46:39 am
Quote from: WALSH
Now is a good time to go after Panic fans bc there are alot talking down the sound they have going...Marcial, is this not true?  I felt the last time I was checking their board that there were ALOT of negative posts about the Red Rocks shows.  Get recruiting.

By the way the PT Bisco board had some good things to say.



From what I read, a few sets from the RR shows were pretty weak... there are also the people who will not be satisfied with anything short of Mikey Houser rising from the dead to rejoin the band... these folks will bitch no matter what.  I consider myself to be a pretty big Houser fan, but think the new sound is good as well.  I saw a few shows on Spring Tour that were some of the best I\'ve ever seen bar none.  Schools, JB, and really the rest of the band have all stepped it up since Houser died and have made the George transition easier... for me at least.  

That being said, I can\'t really see the majority of Panic fans turning into huge Breakfast fans.  I\'m probably the exception to the rule due to the fact that I lived up there & really got a chance to see TB extensively.  I see Panic fans moving more towards bands like MOFRO, North Mississippi Allstars, Jerry Joseph, and Drive By Truckers.  It\'s almost like, as a whole, Panic fans are more into good song writing than "jamming".  

For example, with the exception of Schools (who is possibly the best rock bassist of our time), no one in Panic is what you would consider a badass master of their instrument ala tpalms or animal... they are all decent, but the total of the band is greater than the sum of its parts.  But, there are countless Panic songs that make me feel like they were written just for me... that really speak to you in a way that you can easily relate to.  TB is not there yet, IMO.

Also, where TB is a mix of rock, jazz, funk, classical, etc... Panic is straight out rock-n-roll.  

I could be wrong, but for these reasons I don\'t really see a whole lot of Panic > TB crossover fans.... they are too different & WSP fans tend to be VERY narrow minded in their taste for other music.
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Post by: bezerker on July 18, 2005, 08:51:24 am
i got a couple friends that live in Iowa visiting and just finished a panic tour.  let me tell you they definetly dig the breakfast, saying " this is more my style of music"
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Post by: Wolfman on July 18, 2005, 09:22:56 am
Quote from: Spacey
It\'s tough to win an arguement when you say that this is better then that. It is human nature to defend yourself. There is a better way to approach the whole thing. Another thiing is you want to be able to post Breakfast "fluff" on that board again. If you come with your six shooters out of the gate, people are going to be dicks and non-responsive, just create negative energy and comments.

With that said, good work to all, keep it going.


This is a great point Spaceman.  There\'s no way you can convince people on a band\'s board that some other band is in any way better than theirs.  Especially when it\'s some goofy little unknown band from Connecticut vs. the #1 jamband in the world right now!  Even if the reader knows that some facet of what you are saying is true, such as Adrian is better than their drummer, they don\'t want to hear it anyways.

The thing to do when fluffing The Breakfast on another board is to first position yourself as a fan of the band whose board it is.  Establish some credibility with a few positive posts about the home band.  Then when you bring up the Breakfast just mention that you\'ve been getting into this other good band lately, and offer up some free CDs.  Keep praises for The Breakfast to a minimum and stay away from superlatives.  Just saying "they really rock" and nothing else can actually be very powerful because it leaves an aura of intruige.  Then just send CD\'s to whoever responds.  Even those who don\'t ask for CD\'s will be left with a positive impression of the band because some fan was good enough to give away CD\'s.  Kyndkate is on the ball here.
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 10:36:58 am
Wolfman, couldn\'t have said it better myself. That is actually the way you need to approach the boards without getting flamed.

Marcial - I never knew that WSP had narrow minds in choice of music.

I think what else matters is the age of you audience. For a lot of younger kids (under 21), there are some who hope Phish gets back together and they can taste the sweet nectar that once was Phish. They are the ones who are thirsty for a band to follow. This is one reason why I think Umphrey\'s does so well, a younger audience who in time, by the time the graduate HS will want to go out on tour. For those who have just graduated HS and in college it is the same thing. I think that older people above the 21 age need a quick fix, most of us have seen Phish and some of us have been on a week leg of a tour if not an entire tour. This group doesn\'t want to wait for the next big jam band, for some, waiting is just wasting time. Wait to long, you are stuck in a career and possibly married and can\'t get out. This isn\'t entirely true for all of us but I think this is a generality of the whole scene. That\'s why I feel that the Breakfast needs to target an audience under 21 to build in the future. It\'s tough to do when there aren\'t too many places to play all ages gigs. of course, this is just MY OPINION.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 10:57:26 am
I had to get a fake ID to see them play in Lafayette. Most of my friends were dying to go, but couldn\'t. \'Nuff said.

One thing I\'ve noticed in recent weeks while trying to promote TB is this: people have commented that I have no reason to do free promo. I\'m like, that\'s exactly it! The fans love the band so much that they go out of their way to get more fans. We are so excited about this group of musicians that we don\'t even think twice about dropping 30 bucks on a spindle of blank CDs and spend 2 weeks burning samplers to give to people we don\'t even know. We know and recognize that they\'re too good to keep to ourselves. What other band has fans like that? Not Phish. Not Panic. We\'re a unique group, and we need to use this to our advantage. Music is love, so we need to share it. People will see that we\'re different, and through that, they\'ll soon see that TB is different. We\'re not just creating fans here - we\'re creating possibly the greatest, tightest, friendliest, most loving music community of our generation.

Sure, you can go get your kleenex now. ;)

I was just thinking, we should make up a pledge. "I pledge allegiance, to The Breakfast, to always be my first musical taste in the morning...."
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 10:59:42 am
a lot of truth in what you said kate. solid.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 03:36:22 pm
http://phantasytour.com/wsp/boards_thread.cgi?threadID=758925


We have some Panicheads hungry for Breakfast!! :D
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 03:42:46 pm
Link doesn\'t work

read it, looking good there kyndkate
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 03:53:17 pm
Thread name on WSP PT is "Deer Creek 07.27.05"

I\'ve got quite a few takers, I\'m excited! So far no Breakfast-bashers, just people wanting some new free music.
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 04:14:03 pm
nothing wrong with free music, but whats the catch?
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 04:18:10 pm
There is no catch...I\'m passing out Breakfast samplers. For free. To whoever will take one.

Does there always have to be a catch? :(
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Post by: antbach on July 18, 2005, 04:31:46 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
There is no catch...I\'m passing out Breakfast samplers. For free. To whoever will take one.

Does there always have to be a catch? :(


If the catch of getting a free sampler is a date with Kate, I don\'t need the sampler, but I\'ll be on my way to Deer Creek within a few hours! ;)

But anyways. I am glad to see so many of you are doing your part in the promo thing, wish I could say the same about myself, but as I don\'t get out much, well it doesn\'t quite work in my favor. . .
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 04:35:48 pm
kyndkate, there is always a catch. just got to find it. The catch is this, they take a cd they have to promise to listen to it. Email you or join the .info boards or attend a show. Push the WSP fans into the venue. Also, it is mandatory for you to blast the Breakfast in the parking lot, show up early and leave late, it\'s mandatory. ;)
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Post by: delfunk1 on July 18, 2005, 04:43:22 pm
Quote from: Spacey
That\'s why I feel that the Breakfast needs to target an audience under 21 to build in the future. It\'s tough to do when there aren\'t too many places to play all ages gigs. of course, this is just MY OPINION.


Gotta get them all in to the Puppet House in August.  At Toads Place I\'m usually on the under 21 side just so I can be right up front.  Anyway, def noticed some new faces on the under 21 side at the Toads show that I havent seen before.
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 04:46:12 pm
Definitely agree with you 100% delfunk.

I am currently working on a strategy for the Puppet House shows. I will accept any ideas. This show would be ideal to bring any music lover to.
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Post by: delfunk1 on July 18, 2005, 04:55:29 pm
Yea, I\'ve been hyping everyone I know, I got some friends who haven\'t seen the Breakfast in some time, def makin sure they come along to see how crazy the Breakfast has gotten over the last year and a half.
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Post by: WALSH on July 18, 2005, 05:11:04 pm
There will be PLENTY of underagers at the PH let\'s not go crazy!  Too many under-21ers will get that shit shut down.  I do not care who goes as long as there isn\'t an OBVIOUS reason for 5-0 to break it up...that place is a free-for-all.  People who went to barn shows and now notice it ain\'t around anymore will know what I mean.

Terrapin Station.
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 05:22:59 pm
I hate to break this to you. This band needs and can only survive on a younger audience. Pretty soon all of us "hardcores" are going to be wanting to get out "shit" together and the band is going to take a back seat to our lives. Without a younger audience chances of survival are slim. A target audience of 18-21 is important, these are the kids in college and the ones who can devote more time to a band then some of us who have fulltime jobs, a family or other commitments. If you don\'t target a younger audience then the band will be nothing more then a bar/club band.

Besides WALSH, it is an all ages show. So live with it brah.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 05:31:29 pm
Quote from: Spacey
kyndkate, there is always a catch. just got to find it. The catch is this, they take a cd they have to promise to listen to it. Email you or join the .info boards or attend a show. Push the WSP fans into the venue. Also, it is mandatory for you to blast the Breakfast in the parking lot, show up early and leave late, it\'s mandatory. ;)


I already told my brother we would be blaring Breakfast in the lot. Even though this concert is his birthday present from me, I\'m driving, and I\'m going to control the stereo. On the way there and back, he can listen to whatever the hell he wants.

The catch? They have to get on .info and make one post. That one post will include:
1) the fact that I referred them (so we can keep track of where they came from and if they\'re located close to me so I can get them to come to Lafayette).
2) a short review of their sampler.
3) any question they have regarding TB, and we will answer it.

And antbach, I\'m flattered. ;)

If I get out to CT in the fall, I\'ll let any one of you take me out on a date, provided the location is within the bounds of decency (these bounds are societal...NOT .info bounds) ;)

I can\'t pass up a free dinner or booze!
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Post by: Todd on July 18, 2005, 05:37:18 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
If I get out to CT in the fall, I\'ll let any one of you take me out on a date, provided the location is within the bounds of decency (these bounds are societal...NOT .info bounds) ;)

I can\'t pass up a free dinner or booze!

I REALLY don\'t think you should have done that!!! :lol: I think the barn doors just flew open ;)

btw- interested in an older gentleman that acts like he\'s in his early twenties ;) rotfl
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Post by: oldnewbie on July 18, 2005, 05:48:15 pm
Quote from: ChrisF
Quote from: bryank


"I\'m a big fan of the breakfast, but hyping them like that and saying they are the best and each guy is the best at what they do is more likely to turn people off than to turn them onto the music."


i agree with this statement. you guys should be careful what you say because if you sound like a hardcore fan it will make people want to run in the other direction. i usually just prefer to hand someone my favorite recording and let me music speak for itself.



bingo!!

Quote from: Wolfman
Quote from: Spacey
It\'s tough to win an arguement when you say that this is better then that. It is human nature to defend yourself. There is a better way to approach the whole thing. Another thiing is you want to be able to post Breakfast "fluff" on that board again. If you come with your six shooters out of the gate, people are going to be dicks and non-responsive, just create negative energy and comments.

With that said, good work to all, keep it going.


This is a great point Spaceman.  There\'s no way you can convince people on a band\'s board that some other band is in any way better than theirs.  Especially when it\'s some goofy little unknown band from Connecticut vs. the #1 jamband in the world right now!  Even if the reader knows that some facet of what you are saying is true, such as Adrian is better than their drummer, they don\'t want to hear it anyways.


The thing to do when fluffing The Breakfast on another board is to first position yourself as a fan of the band whose board it is.  Establish some credibility with a few positive posts about the home band.  Then when you bring up the Breakfast just mention that you\'ve been getting into this other good band lately, and offer up some free CDs.  Keep praises for The Breakfast to a minimum and stay away from superlatives.  Just saying "they really rock" and nothing else can actually be very powerful because it leaves an aura of intruige.  Then just send CD\'s to whoever responds.  Even those who don\'t ask for CD\'s will be left with a positive impression of the band because some fan was good en
ough to give away CD\'s.  Kyndkate is on the ball here.


bingo again!!

IMO, gavins post only serves to annoy people. the breakfast have been pimped pretty hard on the moe board and i think people there don\'t feel they need an "introduction"  to the band. sure, we need to get the word out and between igzi, postom,gsphan and myself,  we\'ve been getting info about specific gigs and reviews, along with links to d/l shows but posts like this one and particularly the last one by freddie serve little purpose and ,IMO, maybe hurt the band. i realize that is not gavins (or freddies) intent but thats how i feel.
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Post by: Gordo on July 18, 2005, 06:02:28 pm
Quote from: ChrisF
Quote from: bryank


"I\'m a big fan of the breakfast, but hyping them like that and saying they are the best and each guy is the best at what they do is more likely to turn people off than to turn them onto the music."


i agree with this statement. you guys should be careful what you say because if you sound like a hardcore fan it will make people want to run in the other direction. i usually just prefer to hand someone my favorite recording and let me music speak for itself.


i agree.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 06:19:30 pm
Gordo, you wanna make a Deer Creek road trip next Wednesday? ;) You can help me pass out those flippin\' awesome samplers you put together.
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Post by: Gordo on July 18, 2005, 06:23:24 pm
kate, im psyched about the progress youve made! definitely happy i had a small part in getting these Panic Peeps some Breakfast. that being said, im unhappy with the quality of the cd\'s. EPIC is pretty solid, still pissed though cuz i want to put Queeb on there but this kid who has my Deuce has disappeared! (time to buy a new one) its really just the few segues on em that have those gaps in em, shit! now that there are lots of people getting them i wish i wouldve spent some more time putting together OUTSTANDING samplers (finding a friend with a burner that could remove those gaps), the difference of sound quality and the order of some songs could be better too. i just think i brought some weak sauce to the table here and i hope people arent turned off because of how i compiled these.

Quote from: kyndkate
Gordo, you wanna make a Deer Creek road trip next Wednesday? ;) You can help me pass out those flippin\' awesome samplers you put together.


wait, its NEXT wednesday! i thought it was in 2 days.... is it sold out???????
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Post by: Marcial on July 18, 2005, 06:57:36 pm
not sold out... from what I hear they have barely sold any tickets.... not many people are going to travel to Deer Creek mid-week for only one show.
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Post by: Gordo on July 18, 2005, 07:02:51 pm
how much are tix?
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Post by: freddiewaht on July 18, 2005, 07:18:34 pm
dont listen to the breakfast bashers on pt green board.
99%of them are just talking shit because they know i get hot when they talk shit about pb.
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Post by: Igziabeher on July 18, 2005, 07:26:59 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht
dont listen to the breakfast bashers on pt green board.
99%of them are just talking shit because they know i get hot when they talk shit about pb.

 
insert pt moe. board and my name instead of freddie\'s and you get the same idea there.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 18, 2005, 07:31:28 pm
It\'s nowhere near sold out. It\'s the 27th. Pick up a lawn. NOW.
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Post by: bezerker on July 18, 2005, 07:47:31 pm
everyone on the phantasy board = HATES ME LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 08:03:37 pm
Quote from: bezerker
everyone on the phantasy board = HATES ME LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER



who cares. what do they know.
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Post by: WALSH on July 18, 2005, 09:30:59 pm
First of all I was talking about the puppet house shows...that place will be packed with underage kids if you were playing the spoons ALL NIGHT!  I was not saying that the Breakfast shouldn\'t push for a young crowd!

Second of all, when are you planning on pushing the Breakfast aside?  Music is my passion...I will be 80 and going to shows.  I do not just go to bars and play pool, or go hunting or fishing...this is what I love to do and will do it forever.  So age don\'t matter to me.
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Post by: Spacey on July 18, 2005, 09:39:22 pm
Walsh, I like it when you get a little passion in you.

I wasn\'t specifically saying that you or anyone will in particular but it happens. That is why some bands fail, the can\'t continue to bring in the audience they once had. I gave up moving because the Breakfast would be so far away. I think we may have misunderstood each other earlier. I simply was saying that their needs to be a younger crowd, so that they can travel with the band in time. One reason why some bands make a jump a head is because when they go out on the road a core of fans follow them. If I was from Wisconsin and I went to my first breakfast show and I meet people from CT who traveled with the band I would definitely be more inclined to travel and bring others around with me.
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Post by: Igziabeher on July 18, 2005, 09:39:43 pm
Quote from: bezerker
everyone on the phantasy board = HATES ME LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER


you got a little ways to go before everyone hates you.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 19, 2005, 12:39:13 am
Man, I had 2 people from the Panic board IM me tonight about getting stuff. I gave both of them links to some archive shows and pointed them in the .info direction.

People seem to be excited about their set at 10klf this weekend. I saw a few takers on the Phish and Panic boards.

I have about 4 or 5 orders for mailed samplers, and even more for people that want a copy at the Deer Creek show. Yay Breakfast!!! :D
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Post by: Ant-Man on July 19, 2005, 04:27:38 am
Quote from: WALSH
Too many under-21ers will get that shit shut down.  



WALSH, I\'m learning everyday.  Don\'t worry about me at least.

Spacey,
we\'ve had our talks about the youngins, I\'ve been feeding my sidekick with shows left and right.  He\'s a bit younger than I, but hell, I\'ll be saying the same thing you are now in a few years.
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Post by: Todd on July 19, 2005, 04:39:20 am
Quote from: kyndkate
Man, I had 2 people from the Panic board IM me tonight about getting stuff. I gave both of them links to some archive shows and pointed them in the .info direction.

People seem to be excited about their set at 10klf this weekend. I saw a few takers on the Phish and Panic boards.

I have about 4 or 5 orders for mailed samplers, and even more for people that want a copy at the Deer Creek show. Yay Breakfast!!! :D

Nice Job Kate!!! Keep up the great work!!

Quote from: Ant-Man
Quote from: WALSH
Too many under-21ers will get that shit shut down.  



WALSH, I\'m learning everyday.  Don\'t worry about me at least.

Been going to the Puppet House for at least 12 years....VERY known fact by the neighbors AND police that underager ragers hang out there. As put by my cousin who\'s a Branford cop...."We\'d rather have them in one place having fun and getting fucked up than have them all over the place causing needless havoc" :lol: I\'ve seen cruisers go by only a handful of times in the 60+ times I\'ve been there. Only once did they have a problem with anything (at least that I know/ have heard of) and that was because someone was beating the schnot out of someone else in the middle of the street. < knocks on wood profusely >
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Post by: weekapaug19 on July 19, 2005, 08:25:47 am
so this puppet house is like the barn....byob??
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Post by: antbach on July 19, 2005, 09:27:42 am
Quote from: Todd

Only once did they have a problem with anything (at least that I know/ have heard of) and that was because someone was beating the schnot out of someone else in the middle of the street. < knocks on wood profusely >


Damn guy, good memory for an old man, heh. But from what I remember there was no actual "fight" (although I didn\'t witness any of it), just some yelling and screaming and the like that made the cops come/stop. Oh, and there was also some underage drunk kid(s) post-show on their way to the car who got escorted back inside by Branford\'s finest and then we all know what happened after that, but I will refrain from mentioning any names ;)
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Post by: Spacey on July 19, 2005, 09:29:21 am
Last time I was at the Puppet House for Pencilgrass, I brought in my own cooler and Walsh had his 30. So, I think it is BYOB, I hope it is.

I understand what Walsh\'s concern is and I hear it. As long as people act responsible then we should be all right. I would hate to see an underage kid get pulled over on the way home for drinking at the Breakfast show. It is their responsiblity not mine, I am only asked to fill the place with people.

Kate-Awesome job, great work!!! Keep it up, we could use more midwesterners like you! ;)

Ant-Man, keep the age up around teenager years.
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Post by: Todd on July 19, 2005, 10:26:56 am
Quote from: Spacey
Last time I was at the Puppet House for Pencilgrass, I brought in my own cooler and Walsh had his 30. So, I think it is BYOB, I hope it is.

It is in fact byob...just keep an eye on your cooler..."sticky finger syndrome" runs rampid in there ;)

Quote from: Spacey
Ant-Man, keep the age up around teenager years.

rotfl rotfl
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Post by: Spacey on July 19, 2005, 10:28:27 am
Anyone in particular that you know has "sticky fingers" that I should watch out for?

Everyone should bring a couple of extra beers for me, thanks management
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Post by: Todd on July 19, 2005, 10:36:27 am
Quote from: Spacey
Anyone in particular that you know has "sticky fingers" that I should watch out for?

Pretty much any kid that doesn\'t have :beer:
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Post by: Spacey on July 19, 2005, 10:44:50 am
so I should watch out for myself...

Plenty of time to get some loot saved up, many painting jobs coming my way this month...

cans, anyone?
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Post by: Mark on July 19, 2005, 11:04:01 am
Quote from: Marcial
Posted by "GavinE"
Adrian\'s drum solo has plenty of potential to be the most intense part of a Breakfast show, and that is saying A LOT. His drumming ability will make old men who have followed music for decades cringe with disbelief...that no one can match man.
Absolute confirmage on this, by this old man who has followed music for decades!
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Post by: Spacey on July 19, 2005, 11:10:24 am
much truth, said the elder
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Post by: kyndkate on July 19, 2005, 04:56:51 pm
Confirmage on Breakfast samplers from the PT boards as of this afternoon.

Free B&Ps I\'m dishing out:
4 (Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, Colorado)

People I\'m waiting on addresses from so I can dish out more B&Ps:
3

Phantasy Tourists I\'m handing a sampler at the Panic show next week:
5

If those dozen people share the sampler with 2 of their friends, and their friends share it with 2 of their friends, that\'s 84 people that have been exposed to TB by 2 degrees of separation. Amazing, huh? :)
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Post by: Spacey on July 19, 2005, 05:15:58 pm
excellent
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Post by: kyndkate on July 24, 2005, 05:08:07 pm
Bfast sampler update:

Mailed B&Ps:
SC, NC (x2), GA, KS, CO, IL, IN

Phantasy Tourists expecting a sampler:
11

(http://www.campushook.com/img/2/299268.original.jpg)
(http://www.campushook.com/img/2/299269.original.jpg)

Also emailed Lafayette Brewing Co about bring the boys back in August/September. Vibe looks positive except for the fact that Tim thought if they did make it to Indiana, it might be a mid-week show. I told the Brew Co that if they snagged them for a weekend slot, I\'d promote the shit out of it and fill that place with raging hippies.

PS - there are about 50 CDs in the picture, and I\'m doing 25 more I decided.
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Post by: SlimPickens on July 24, 2005, 05:29:09 pm
hope you get that LBC gig set up, I\'ve got some friends that live in IN that have been dying to see tb
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Post by: Spacey on July 24, 2005, 05:43:03 pm
Good Work KyndKate!!!
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Post by: Gordo on July 24, 2005, 07:37:19 pm
kate, you\'re grrrrreat!
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Post by: kyndkate on July 24, 2005, 07:49:05 pm
No Gordo, you\'re great...you were the one who sent me those!!
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Post by: skalnbyc on July 24, 2005, 08:06:54 pm
I need to get my act together and make some samplers.  I have 200 blanks in my possession and absolutely no excuses not to make them.
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Post by: Gordo on July 24, 2005, 08:09:15 pm
thats the spirit.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 24, 2005, 08:13:12 pm
Amen, zurflu. The East Coast is set, Gordo and I are workin\' on the Midwest, and you can take care of the left coast. :) Awwww cinnamon and gravy, I love TB!
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Post by: Jim Cobb on July 25, 2005, 12:18:25 am
you all are the shizzle.

this band is gonna blow up real soon.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 25, 2005, 01:07:48 am
It\'s funny...I want them to be successful, but at the same time, it\'s nice only having 75 or so regulars on the board, y\'know? I like being able to chat with them at a show, but it\'d be cool if I had to have a VIP pass someday.
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Post by: Gordo on July 25, 2005, 02:37:48 am
hell yeah! im looking forward to a backstage party at the LBC in the future.. ha!
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Post by: bezerker on July 25, 2005, 09:39:29 am
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Marcial
Posted by "GavinE"
Adrian\'s drum solo has plenty of potential to be the most intense part of a Breakfast show, and that is saying A LOT. His drumming ability will make old men who have followed music for decades cringe with disbelief...that no one can match man.
Absolute confirmage on this, by this old man who has followed music for decades!



not sure if we are talkin about the same guy, but at sterling stage, adrians drum solo blew this ..... i\'d say 60 year old hippie outta the water, saying he was the best drummer hes seen since his younger days, or possibly ever
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Post by: Jim Cobb on July 25, 2005, 11:05:15 am
nah mark was talking about himself.
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Post by: Gfunk on July 25, 2005, 11:33:50 am
i remember that old dude at sterling. he was totally blown away by the whole band. i remember him saying tim was better than John Mclaughlin. you know the dude who played with Miles Davis, Mahavishnu Orchestra. thats quite the compliment, that old dude new his shit!
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Post by: Buquebus on July 25, 2005, 11:37:01 am
<<<< wishes the Sterling Stage set was taped... :(  one of the sickest versions of Rufus to date
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 01:30:48 pm
all things looking good for the Breakfast. Solid grassroots campaign by Gordo and KyndKate by giving out free cds. Also, talking them up on other boards. Would like to see what the impact of The Breakfast will be after the 10K Lakes Festival. Possibly some newcomers to the band will be seen in the month of August. Would like to see a 3 Set or 2 super long sets, NYE show with only the Breakfast playing.

Quote from: Buquebus
<<<< wishes the Sterling Stage set was taped... :(  one of the sickest versions of Rufus to date


It will be nice to see the day when every Breakfast show is taped.
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Post by: Gordo on July 25, 2005, 01:34:53 pm
Quote from: Spacey
all things looking good for the Breakfast. Solid grassroots campaign by Gordo and KyndKate by giving out free cds. Also, talking them up on other boards. Would like to see what the impact of The Breakfast will be after the 10K Lakes Festival. Possibly some newcomers to the band will be seen in the month of August. Would like to see a 3 Set or 2 super long sets, NYE show with only the Breakfast playing.
Quote from: Buquebus
<<<< wishes the Sterling Stage set was taped... :(  one of the sickest versions of Rufus to date


It will be nice to see the day when every Breakfast show is taped.


Hallelujah! id be there.
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 01:37:39 pm
good to know that I am not the only one who has this dream. incredibly possible if they can find a venue or something that can be booked. They would have to start thinking about it now.
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Post by: Gordo on July 25, 2005, 01:59:36 pm
these next 2 months are gonna be real interesting. one thing that really gets on my nerves is relix\'s lack of exposure for The Breakfast. since they had the spotlight article there has been only one mention of the band\'s name, and it was about message boards killing bands. it had an example of a thread labeled "Why The Breakfast fans are less annoying than Umphrey\'s fans" or somethin. reading articles about Gabby La La and Claypool gets old issue after issue. I just think theyre not paying respect where due, especially with a band that gives the founding fathers (as in GD) so much respect in their shows. timmy should also receive a lot more recognition as one of the premier players in the game right now, even though id like to see him stay under the radar, but come on. i dont know, just having a head scratching moment where "i just dont get it" keeps running through my head..... i KNOW y\'all understand.
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 02:15:06 pm
I also wonder why Relix hasn\'t shown them more respect.
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Post by: ChrisF on July 25, 2005, 03:00:05 pm
How often does relix come out with new issues? is it every single month? I signed up for the free subscription when the link was posted on .info.  i just got the august issue with jerry on the cover, but i had not gotten one since the february/march issue with govt mule on the cover. does that make any sense?
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Post by: derickw on July 25, 2005, 03:01:44 pm
F Relix, there just a bunch of fakes. I think the original intent of the zeen was to get people informed on what new and hot, I don\'t know about anyone here but that new Claypool stuff is kinda garbo in my ears. I think Relix went too corporate and now they\'re sell\'n out to the big names.
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Post by: Stephengencs on July 25, 2005, 03:02:25 pm
I just got the JerBear issues too.....

Considering the mag is probably run by heady heads....I am sure there will be a missing issue or two....
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Post by: Gfunk on July 25, 2005, 03:05:42 pm
Relix sucks period. i get a free subscription somehow.  i just got the new issue, sick 6 pages of Brain Adams... :huh::hscratch:sick. somehow they need to start making appearances in the "Scene and Heard" section. it seems like that section, issue after issue, covers trey, umphreys, spearhead, and fuckin ben harper. I don\'t know, i\'ve just been frustrated about relix\'s lack of B-fast for a long time now. maybe if enough people write to them we could get a little coverage for the boys. It\'d be sweet if they mentioned the puppethouse shows or something, afterall those shows will be epic confirmed.
if you want to write, here is the addy:
Dear Relix
180 Varick St.
Suite 410
New York, NY 10014

or email
letters@relix.com
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 03:10:09 pm
Relix was developed as a way to keep Grateful Dead fans connected. It is a magazine run by dead heads.
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Post by: SlimPickens on July 25, 2005, 03:10:35 pm
can you say .info write in campaign to get Relix coverage at the puppet house????
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 03:14:09 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens
can you say .info write in campaign to get Relix coverage at the puppet house????


I am down. Let\'s do it.
It is a magazine for the fans, right?
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Post by: SlimPickens on July 25, 2005, 03:16:49 pm
might as well give it a shot
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 03:19:40 pm
Not like we have anything to lose....
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Post by: Gfunk on July 25, 2005, 03:30:46 pm
by the way, it\'s a bi monthly mag. next issue will probably be a halloween issue. maybe mention the fonghoulish freakout....?
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Post by: skalnbyc on July 25, 2005, 03:51:26 pm
Quote from: Gfunk
by the way, it\'s a bi monthly mag. next issue will probably be a halloween issue. maybe mention the fonghoulish freakout....?


How many other bands throw a party like The Fongoulish Freakout?

Quote from: SlimPickens
can you say .info write in campaign to get Relix coverage at the puppet house????


Great idea!  I am a major advocate of seeing more Breakfast in the press and should be working on a campaign to introduce the band to music columnists at the major newspapers.
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 03:54:40 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu

How many other bands throw a party like The Fongoulish Freakout?


I think that everyone these days takes advantage of the Halloween and NYE. Ity has become a customary ritual for many bands. Is it as good as other bands? Don\'t know, won\'t/haven\'t seen any other bands on Halloween.
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Post by: leith on July 25, 2005, 03:58:15 pm
Quote from: Spacey
DEAD Relix was developed as a way to keep Grateful Dead fans connected. It WAS a magazine run by dead heads.


Just a little correction.

Relix was a great place to find out info on GD and other bands. After Toni Brown editor in chief left the mag it went downhill fast. I still get it because I enjoy some of the writing in it and I\'m just used to reading it. The problem w/ Relix is it\'s bimonthly publication and the fact that all the news in there is old by the time it is published. The trend to push larger bands is def. a  $$ thing but I believe they do give coverage to new bands that other mags do not. The fact that The Bfast is not pushed by Relix is not surprising but a letter campaign could not hurt.
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 04:17:23 pm
Quote from: leith
Quote from: Spacey
DEAD Relix was developed as a way to keep Grateful Dead fans connected. It WAS a magazine run by dead heads.


Just a little correction.

Relix was a great place to find out info on GD and other bands. After Toni Brown editor in chief left the mag it went downhill fast. I still get it because I enjoy some of the writing in it and I\'m just used to reading it. The problem w/ Relix is it\'s bimonthly publication and the fact that all the news in there is old by the time it is published. The trend to push larger bands is def. a  $$ thing but I believe they do give coverage to new bands that other mags do not. The fact that The Bfast is not pushed by Relix is not surprising but a letter campaign could not hurt.


I knew it was something like that.
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on July 25, 2005, 04:29:24 pm
Quote from: Buquebus
<<<< wishes the Sterling Stage set was taped... :(  one of the sickest versions of Rufus to date

ditto..that was my favorite show of the weekend run, pretty decent crowd that night too (although i have no idea how to estimate how many) totally unexpected awesome rufus
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 04:39:10 pm
<<<< Know UMelt, have friends who really know these guys well, they aren\'t anything special IMO
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Post by: kyndkate on July 25, 2005, 04:41:12 pm
I thought at least I\'d check them out, but there\'s no way in hell I\'m slowing down my Bfast streak anytime soon. I mean, I\'m going back to school at Purdue in 3 weeks...I\'m going to be passing out CDs during freshman orientation week to set those kids straight.
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Post by: leith on July 25, 2005, 04:41:27 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
I\'m in.

Oh, and some dude emailed me today, get this:

Quote
Hi Kate--
I hope you don\'t mind me e-mailing you.  My name is Jason, and I
manage the band U-Melt.  One of our fans who helps me out with
our street team forwarded me a link to the posts you made on PT
and I was hoping that you would give U-Melt a listen, as I am
sure you will really like them.  It was really nice to read how
much you LOVE to help spread the word about The Breakfast and I
was hoping, when/if you like U-Melt you could help us out as
well.  I am a really big fan of The Breakfast as well, and I am
actually good friends with their sound engineer Josh Dobson.  I
hope I don\'t sound like I am trying to take you away from the
time you spend helping The Breakfast, I was just hoping that you
would really dig U-Melt and maybe combine efforts :).
side note from Kate: this is what most would call "bullshit."

In case you have never heard of U-Melt, we are a similar band to
The Breakfast in that we are out of the north east (New York
City for us), and we are both guitar driven jam bands who take
incredible pride in every member\'s musicianship and pride in
every fans enjoyment of the show.  U-Melt has only been around
for less than 2 years but, I think you will agree, have formed
into one of the tightest and soaring bands in the scene.
Although we have not yet made it out to Indiana, we have made
incredible strides on the east coast and plan on working our way
to the mid west very soon, possible early next year.  And that
is why I decided to contact you, I hope you don\'t mind.  It
would be really great to get true music fans like yourself on
our side to help make our first trip out there a successful one,
and I am, without a doubt, extremely confident that once you and
others hear U-Melt\'s music, you will be instant fans.

Anyway, sorry about babbling on.  I just wanted to let you know
where I was coming from.  Once again, I hope you don\'t mind my
contacting you b/c of something you wrote on PT, I just really
liked what you said and think you\'ll really dig U-Melt and was
hoping we could get you on our team.  The link to U-Melt\'s
website is http://www.umelt.com.  Please go look around when you get a
chance.  There are some dowloadable MP3\'s off the music section
that I would love for you to take a listen to, and our sound
engineer is currently mixing a live show that we are considering
cutting down to one CD and using as a promotional handout (we
were originally going to release it as an album).  I would love
to send you a copy when it is ready in a week or two.  

Thanks for listening and please let me know what you think about
the music on the site.  I really look forward to hearing back
from you.

Thanks,
Jason Greenberg
Manager, U-Melt
jason@umelt.com
(212)729-7388
http://www.umelt.com



Not quite sure what to make of this. I mean, I\'m flattered that he\'s asking for my help, and I\'m sure U-Melt is good. But seriously. I\'m a college student, not a promo business. I\'ll check them out, but "not trying to take away from my Breakfast time"? All my spare time that I have is dedicated to them right now! Not sure I have time (or even want) to promote someone else.


Sounds to me like U-Melt has an active management team that listens to it\'s fanbase w/o relying on the band members to do so and realizes that music fans are music fans and help to promote the band he manages can be found anywhere.
 If you feel inclined to help out great but I do not think he expects you to go ga ga over U-melt I mean he has HEARD The Bfast and probably KNOWS U-Melt is not as good. So take his email for what it seems to be which is just someone looking for fan support from one he sees as a music fan willing to go the xtra mile for a band they like and he hopes you like UMelt also.
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Post by: skalnbyc on July 25, 2005, 05:04:00 pm
Grassroots promotion generally goes hand-in-hand with a high level of fan interest.  One can\'t even think about promoting another band before having a thorough understanding and appreciation of the music.   I guess I\'ll give the guy credit for his devotion and recruiting efforts, though I think making the suggestion that you explore UMelt\'s music is the most appropriate first step in the process of herding new fans.

All I know is that The Breakfast is lucky to have your promotional efforts in an under-served region!
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Post by: Whathefunk on July 25, 2005, 05:10:21 pm
This is sorta funny just cause me and my roomate at school both use archive.org fervently and each found a band we really like a lot (an understatement for me).  If you can guess it, i found Bfast and he found U-melt.  I personally can\'t really get into U-melt very much, he dragged me to see them twice now and wasn\'t too impressed.  But what does impress me is the manager who reads PT boards looking for ways to help his band.  Might have been a lil foward to send you that babbling email tho.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 25, 2005, 05:49:30 pm
Yeah, I give the guy credit for trying, but that was quite a mouthful for a first contact. It almost scared me away...I got a desperate vibe from him, you know?
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Post by: Buquebus on July 25, 2005, 06:11:57 pm
st00pid sidenote: both bands being discussed have gone threw name changes
a440> The Unbelievable Meltdown
Psychedelic Breakfast> The Breakfast
have yet to hear any U-Melt, but I hear that they do decent covers of "Bubblehouse" and "It\'s Ice"
btw, kyndkate needs a fluffer :)
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Post by: kyndkate on July 25, 2005, 06:14:07 pm
wait, Buquebus...you saw that?! Aw, man! :redface:

someone created a mock thread, "KyndKate needs a muffler"

I told him to eat aardvark shit
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Post by: Spacey on July 25, 2005, 11:27:28 pm
Fuck UMelt, ask the dude what\'s in it for you? Why should you waste your precious time in an effort to spread the word about a band who no one can see?

UMelt=Ulost
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Post by: kyndkate on July 25, 2005, 11:39:09 pm
Here\'s my reply.

Hi Jason,
I\'m flattered that you would give me this kind of responsibility. I also
admire you for searching Phantasy Tour to see what fans want and to find new
and improved forms of promo. I think you\'ve definitely got it right in that
respect. I am always open to music; however, I\'m going back to college in 3
weeks and I\'m gearing up for a tough semester. I have my hands pretty full
with Breakfast promo around my campus (I\'ve been working with the local
brewing company to bring them back this fall) and my resources are dwindling
(aka cash, CDs). I\'m very willing to download some U-Melt and give it a
listen, but I just can\'t promise too much or any extra time right now. Next
summer might be a different story, but there\'s a limit to what I can do at the
present.
In "working" for The Breakfast (all of my promo is strictly self-driven, self-
funded, and done in my spare time; the band is somewhat aware of my goings-on,
but I\'m not officially on a street team), I\'ve found that there is a huge
unreached population here in the Midwest, and I\'ve pledged myself to drawing
bigger crowds for them right now. It\'s not just a Breakfast thing at this
point, it\'s also a personal thing. I\'m starting to develop a relationships with other fans and getting my good friends into them.
Even though I\'m in college earning a biology degree, my dream job is in the
music business. This has been a good learning opportunity for me, and lesser-
known jamband promo is something I would love to do full-time. For right now,
though, I have to keep things real and finish my degree. Maybe someday I can
make it full-time, but right now I\'m just trying to keep it a hobby. Don\'t get
me wrong, I know how hard it is for bands to make it these days, but I\'m only
one person. I\'ll keep in touch, though, and share as much U-Melt music as I
can.
Most sincerely,
Kate Sipla


Btw, that last sentence is complete bullshit.
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Post by: Buquebus on July 25, 2005, 11:54:40 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Fuck UMelt, ask the dude what\'s in it for you? Why should you waste your precious time in an effort to spread the word about a band who no one can see?

UMelt=Ulost

are they invisible?? why can no one see them??
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Post by: leith on July 25, 2005, 11:58:05 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Fuck UMelt, ask the dude what\'s in it for you? Why should you waste your precious time in an effort to spread the word about a band who no one can see?

UMelt=Ulost


Pfft whatever. One could say the same shit abt the Bfast. U-Melt has more dates listed on their website through a longer time period than the Bfast first off so if one where to go by your statement The Bfast is the band no one can see.
There is room for more than just The Bfast and due to their sparse touring schedule other bands have to fill my live music jones. So having a fuck Umelt attitude could very well be fuck Bfast on another board.

Just a reality check bro. nothin\' more. Peace.
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Post by: Spacey on July 26, 2005, 12:00:26 am
my bad, what I meant to say is see a band the kyndkate can\'t see.

My point was this, why promote a band that won\'t be coming to your area? Small bands like The Breakfast and UMelt depend on their live performances to bring in creating a fanbase. I have heard bands on disc before and have never seen them, never been hooked by one of them, like them? yes but never hooked.

trust when I say that UMelt will not be in the midwest for another 2-3 years. They are still playing house parties.
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Post by: leith on July 26, 2005, 12:04:13 am
Quote from: kyndkate
Here\'s my reply.

Hi Jason,
I\'m flattered that you would give me this kind of responsibility. I also
admire you for searching Phantasy Tour to see what fans want and to find new
and improved forms of promo. I think you\'ve definitely got it right in that
respect. I am always open to music; however, I\'m going back to college in 3
weeks and I\'m gearing up for a tough semester. I have my hands pretty full
with Breakfast promo around my campus (I\'ve been working with the local
brewing company to bring them back this fall) and my resources are dwindling
(aka cash, CDs). I\'m very willing to download some U-Melt and give it a
listen, but I just can\'t promise too much or any extra time right now. Next
summer might be a different story, but there\'s a limit to what I can do at the
present.
In "working" for The Breakfast (all of my promo is strictly self-driven, self-
funded, and done in my spare time; the band is somewhat aware of my goings-on,
but I\'m not officially on a street team), I\'ve found that there is a huge
unreached population here in the Midwest, and I\'ve pledged myself to drawing
bigger crowds for them right now. It\'s not just a Breakfast thing at this
point, it\'s also a personal thing. I\'m starting to develop a relationships with other fans and getting my good friends into them.
Even though I\'m in college earning a biology degree, my dream job is in the
music business. This has been a good learning opportunity for me, and lesser-
known jamband promo is something I would love to do full-time. For right now,
though, I have to keep things real and finish my degree. Maybe someday I can
make it full-time, but right now I\'m just trying to keep it a hobby. Don\'t get
me wrong, I know how hard it is for bands to make it these days, but I\'m only
one person. I\'ll keep in touch, though, and share as much U-Melt music as I
can.
Most sincerely,
Kate Sipla


Btw, that last sentence is complete bullshit.


If that last sentence was B.S. why even write it? You could have just said You know I really don\'t think I\'m going to spread any U-Melt as The Breakfast rule my soul so I probably will never hear from you again. Thanx though Peace. or something like that? I mean I know I would rather someone be truthful w/ me about something I cared for alot (such as this guy does for U-Melt). I guess that\'s just me.
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Post by: leith on July 26, 2005, 12:11:42 am
Quote from: Spacey
my bad, what I meant to say is see a band the kyndkate can\'t see.

My point was this, why promote a band that won\'t be coming to your area? Small bands like The Breakfast and UMelt depend on their live performances to bring in creating a fanbase. I have heard bands on disc before and have never seen them, never been hooked by one of them, like them? yes but never hooked.

trust when I say that UMelt will not be in the midwest for another 2-3 years. They are still playing house parties.


Uh I first heard Phish on tape and I knew I HAD to see them Hooked yes. Oh and I believe my first exposure to a little band named PB was this disc Bonafide. Hooked Yes. Both bands I had to wait AWHILE to ACTUALLY SEE live and I was hooked b4 then. You never know where the next great musical experience of your life will take place so I find it easier to avoid shock when it happens by keeping an open mind.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 26, 2005, 12:28:41 am
Okay okay okay you two. Cut it out.

Rephrase:
The last sentence of my reply may not have been complete bullshit, but sure I\'ll let the guy keep my email address and if I happen to like some of the mp3s on their website and he sends me a live show, I\'ll think about it. It\'s just not happening anytime soon is all.
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Post by: ChrisF on July 26, 2005, 12:32:55 am
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I\'ll think about it. It\'s just not happening anytime soon is all.


if he wants your help why not ask him to supply burned shows and postage? If he wants your help thats the least he can do. If he agrees you can send a umelt cd to all the breakfast fans and you wont have to spend any money of your own on postage. its no more work for you and less money you have to spend.
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Post by: leith on July 26, 2005, 12:34:31 am
Quote from: kyndkate
Okay okay okay you two. Cut it out.

Rephrase:
The last sentence of my reply may not have been complete bullshit, but sure I\'ll let the guy keep my email address and if I happen to like some of the mp3s on their website and he sends me a live show, I\'ll think about it. It\'s just not happening anytime soon is all.

That\'s what i figured. You never know the show he sends may be rightous and worth passing on.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 26, 2005, 12:36:06 am
Quote from: ChrisF
Quote from: kyndkate
I\'ll think about it. It\'s just not happening anytime soon is all.


if he wants your help why not ask him to supply burned shows and postage? If he wants your help thats the least he can do. If he agrees you can send a umelt cd to all the breakfast fans and you wont have to spend any money of your own on postage. its no more work for you and less money you have to spend.


Problem is, Chris, they are just now putting finishing touches on a live show. They hardly have any live stuff available. The dude said it would be ready in "a couple weeks." My samplers are going out next Monday, and no later. I gots to keep my promises to people expecting their free Breakfast. If I\'m late, my image as well as the Breakfast\'s has less credibility. See where I\'m coming from? I\'d love to wait on this guy, but I can\'t. Plus I haven\'t listened to U-Melt at all...what if it\'s complete fodder and people get really turned off by my selection? Bad U-Melt=bad exposure, bad news for Bfast.
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Post by: leith on July 26, 2005, 12:36:42 am
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My Monday was fine, how was yours?


Pretty dull until just awhile ago. :) No I finally got another day off from the crappy fair. 2 more weeks to go and than a month or so off to waste the $$ I made. moe.down etc.
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Post by: ChrisF on July 26, 2005, 12:40:09 am
Quote from: kyndkate
The dude said it would be ready in "a couple weeks." My samplers are going out next Monday, and no later. I gots to keep my promises to people expecting their free Breakfast.


there\'s always next time. and if that guy sends you something really good and is willing to pay for postage then maybe its worth hooking up with him for the next batch of samplers.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 26, 2005, 12:41:32 am
Okay, I\'m going to bed. Bottom line: If U-Melt is as good/better than The Breakfast, I\'ll actually be willing to spend twice the postage on more free B&P\'s. I work 40 hours this week and have 75 CDs to pass out on Wednesday at Widespread, so U-Melt will just have to wait until next weekend.
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Post by: Spacey on July 26, 2005, 12:43:52 am
Here is the show that made UMelt a name worthy enough to talk about.

The quality I don\'t believe is great, and I don\'t think it was a musically good show, but to be fair to UMelt and their loyal fans, I suggest you take a listen to it yourself.

September 4, 2004 (http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=19607&from=browsePopular)

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SURVIVOR: U-MELT IN THE GARDEN
U-Melt :: 09.05.04 :: Strangefolk\'s Garden of Eden Festival :: Greenfield, MA (Jambase.com review)

It began with a challenge issued to the band and ended after an "unbelievable" musical journey lasting well over six hours. U-Melt was scheduled to start its late night set at 4:00 a.m. and finish later in the morning. The promoters challenged U-Melt to play as long as they could without taking any breaks, or at least until the festival\'s music began the next day. The band accepted the challenge with open arms and the rest, as they say, is history.

U-Melt\'s set began with the opening notes to "Tomorrow My Friend," and with that, the epic voyage began. On "Tomorrow" keyboardist and vocalist Zac Lasher took over the late night crowd with his crisp vocals and tight jams. Next, during "Schizophrenia," guitarist and vocalist Rob Salzer dove right into his first of many extraordinary solos of this super set. At this point the crowd grew larger as everyone within earshot packed into the late night cabin to hear what the rage was all about. The band\'s powerful "Infectious Groove" was a personal highlight of the evening with Adam Bendy and George Miller putting together a tremendous groove on bass guitar and drums respectively. The groove was as infectious as the song title suggests and the band pushed and pushed until I thought my head would melt.

The night took a funky, unexpected turn when they launched into a cover of Kool and the Gang\'s "Get Down On It" with Miller taking the lead on vocals. This rendition would have made Kool and the rest of his Gang proud! "Get Down On It" segued flawlessly into "Missed," where Miller took the lead again laying down his unmistakable beats. The crowd was very excited--yet attentive--despite the fact that the sun was rising after a long festival day with another one literally on the horizon.

"We\'ve come a long, long way together, through the hard times and the good..."

Appropriate lyrics for a marathon set, the cover of Fatboy Slim\'s classic dance song "Praise You" brought the crowd to frenzy and seemed to energize the band for the long haul. At this point it was nearly time for breakfast and those who didn\'t make it through the night were waking up and making their way to the cabin, many of them still in their pajamas. Then the U-Melt staple "Green Amber" took off and didn\'t come down for nearly 20 minutes, and the crowd loved every second of it. As if the crowd didn\'t know already, after "Green Amber" it was apparent that this was not your typical U-Melt show, or any show for that matter. The crowd swelled as parents brought their kids into the cabin after they woke up, and some of those who had caught the beginning of the show and went to bed, returned after getting some much needed rest.

U-Melt has never shied away from wearing their many musical hats and they donned yet another one during this extensive set with their cover of the classic 80s Huey Lewis tune "I Want a New Drug." The crowd nodded its collective heads in approval as Lasher belted out the lyrics with impressive enthusiasm. U-Melt followed Huey\'s party cry with perhaps their single best version of "The Eternal Groove" with Lasher singing and Salzer taking a lengthy solo before the end of this band staple. Up next was a fantastic rendition of moe.\'s "Happy Hour Hero" a tribute to U-Melt\'s friends in moe. and also those friends of the band who were a few hundred miles away in upstate New York at moe.down. "Happy Hour" was followed by a huge "Human Compass" which featured Salzer\'s most ferocious solo of the night. At this point, with each song and hour that passed, it became clear that we were all witnessing something exceptional that may never be surpassed. U-Melt had now been playing for over five hours without taking so much as a bathroom break.

The band then did a brilliant version of Medeski Martin & Wood\'s popular "Bubblehouse" featuring a short freestyle rap by Mike McCann, lead singer of Oak Street. "Bubblehouse" segued back into the monster set closer "Through the Prism" finishing the version which was played earlier in the set, which seemed like days ago. When all was said and done, U-Melt had shredded the late night cabin for over six hours. After the set ended it was 10:30 a.m. and a new festival day was upon us.

After it was complete, I asked myself, "has anyone else even tried to play for over six hours without taking any break?" We all know about Phish\'s Big Cypress all-night set during the millennium, but that was from midnight to 7 a.m., and they took several on-stage bathroom breaks as well as other lengthy on-stage breaks. U-Melt let loose in incredible late night fashion and proved they are a progressive groove force to be reckoned with and the Energizer Bunny of the jam scene. They just keep going and going and going...

Todd Gordon
JamBase | Worldwide
Go See Live Music!


To understand where they are today, listen to a show from this year.March 10, 2005 (http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=23970)

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Quote from: kyndkate

It took everything in me to refrain from saying this, but I just have to. It\'s out of my character, but I feel compelled to get it out there:
Leith, quit being a pot-stirrer.
Spacey, quit letting him stir you.
And vice versa.

Take arguments to private messaging. I don\'t really feel like seeing it here.

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Uh waaah. I can not help it if people take exception to MY opinions. You seem to be like everyone else in the fact that i am not allowed to post my thoughts on a subject only due to the fact that I may disagree w/ someone else?
Also many times I merely express another side to an argument W/O TAKING that position in the argument. I merely aim to make sure both sides are explored if i feel the need to do so. Is that pot stirring? If so sorry lady I ain\'t stopping. The day I stop questioning is the day I\'m dead. Plain fact.



It\'s only done because I like him...
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Post by: ChrisF on July 26, 2005, 12:57:28 am
when it starts to get ugly just ask the other person(s) to join you in the chat room and take it up there. its much better for everyone that way.
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Post by: leith on July 26, 2005, 01:23:08 am
Quote from: ChrisF
when it starts to get ugly just ask the other person(s) to join you in the chat room and take it up there. its much better for everyone that way.


Great idea. I\'ll try and remember that.
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Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2005, 02:59:28 am
just listened to about 30 minutes of U-Melt.. theyre pretty good actually. id see em if they were in town. funny with all the Bisco talk this past week, they sound a lot like the Biscuits. i think their bass player is pretty weak, drums could use more fills, and really just stating this because ive gone into TB comparison mode. basically there\'s absolutely no comparison. props to the man for working hard to promote them, shame on him for acting like a freak/stalker type off the bat, and personally-- they aint nearly good enough to have someone dedicated to The Breakfast take over grassroots in the Midwest. nice try man. but, like i said, id see them if they were in town for sure. ready to hear what the vocals are like for U-Melt.................

pretty weak.

yet another reason why TB is so good. i think it\'s crazy how unique each voice is in The Breakfast. Tim absolutely has his OWN voice, jordan has so much soul, ronny "the tenor" spears. all very good, they make perfect harmonies, and theyve all gotten a lot better. also makes for quality -and large range for- covers. fuck this, im writing to relix right now. and noooo, im not gonna preach about how theyre the best band ever (well not directly or in an obvious sense, of course.)
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Post by: ChrisF on July 26, 2005, 03:09:13 am
Quote from: Gordo
props to the man for working hard to promote them, shame on him for acting like a freak/stalker type off the bat


i think its all good. he\'s a friend of dobz and for all he knew he was contacting someone who also works for or helps the band. no big deal.
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Post by: Gordo on July 26, 2005, 03:18:40 am
true. after reading it again i cant blame the man for being passionate about a band he loves and works for.. shame on me for being hypocrytical.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 27, 2005, 02:33:19 am
Dun dunda DUUUUUUN....

Tomorrow is the day, folks. Fifty samplers will be handed to fifty unsuspecting Widespread fans. Fifteen samplers will be put in the hands of Phantasy tourists from around the midwest. I\'m thinking there will be 65 cars melted on the side of the highway when they pop the CD in for the ride home. Pray for no rain, receptive pholk, and smiles. :)
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Post by: Spacey on July 27, 2005, 02:35:07 am
Ya, Good Luck with that.

You might want to put a disclaimer on the cds taking no responsibility for any damage to face, mind, cars and stereos.
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Post by: Whathefunk on July 27, 2005, 02:37:35 am
Quote from: kyndkate
Dun dunda DUUUUUUN....

Tomorrow is the day, folks. Fifty samplers will be handed to fifty unsuspecting Widespread fans. Fifteen samplers will be put in the hands of Phantasy tourists from around the midwest. I\'m thinking there will be 65 cars melted on the side of the highway when they pop the CD in for the ride home. Pray for no rain, receptive pholk, and smiles. :)



Good luck Kate!!! keepin\' the fingers crossed for ya  :peace:
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Post by: Spacey on July 27, 2005, 02:38:40 am
The Breakfast will soon own the mid-west.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 27, 2005, 02:39:17 am
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Ya, Good Luck with that.

You might want to put a disclaimer on the cds taking no responsibility for any damage to face, mind, cars and stereos.


HAHAHAHA, I may just have to get up early tomorrow and grab a pen.
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Post by: Spacey on July 27, 2005, 02:40:31 am
or hand it to them and smile and say, consider yorself warned! and just turn and walk away.
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Post by: Whathefunk on July 27, 2005, 02:45:27 am
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Quote from: Spacey
Ya, Good Luck with that.

You might want to put a disclaimer on the cds taking no responsibility for any damage to face, mind, cars and stereos.


HAHAHAHA, I may just have to get up early tomorrow and grab a pen.


 :lol: Do it! Do it!

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or hand it to them and smile and say, consider yorself warned! and just turn and walk away.


and wear that pirate hat while doing it :)
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Post by: jocelyn on July 27, 2005, 09:38:14 am
"There are those who give little of the much which they have - and they give it for recognition and their hidden desire makes their gifts unwholesome." -Kahlil Gibran
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Post by: oldnewbie on July 27, 2005, 09:47:27 am
isn\'t it amazing how subtle joc has become as she\'s getting a little older   ;)
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Post by: skalnbyc on July 27, 2005, 01:17:08 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
Dun dunda DUUUUUUN....

Tomorrow is the day, folks. Fifty samplers will be handed to fifty unsuspecting Widespread fans. Fifteen samplers will be put in the hands of Phantasy tourists from around the midwest. I\'m thinking there will be 65 cars melted on the side of the highway when they pop the CD in for the ride home. Pray for no rain, receptive pholk, and smiles. :)


What is the process for determining who deserves a sampler?  Make sure you give them to the most enthusiastic fans or those who seem like the type that spend a lot of time listening to and discussing music with others.  Your samplers could effectively be more influential than all the spring doozies combined if they land in the right hands (aka those that will spread the sounds).  Have you ever seen those webs that show you how many people you have slept with and how many they have slept with?  Hopefully the cds will "cross the nation" in the same fashion!

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The Breakfast will soon own the mid-west.


I have driven through the midwest several times (via I-80) and there isn\'t much to own other than expansive land, crop dusters and cattle in many places.  Hopefully we will own the more populated regions.
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Post by: Gordo on July 27, 2005, 06:54:29 pm
you werent far enough east yet zurflu.. tons of people from Chicago east. i guess straight north and south too, but yeah from Iowa west to CO its pretty f-in brutal.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 28, 2005, 02:24:01 am
Back from the show...had some reallllly interested people who had lots of questions. A lot of people seemed excited about new music to listen to on the way home.
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Post by: Marcial on July 28, 2005, 08:29:49 am
How was the Panic show?  Setlist looks killer.
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Post by: kyndkate on July 28, 2005, 10:21:02 am
The show was good. First set was kind of "meh", second set was rockin\', and encore was smoking hot. Even though my bro and I forgot the tickets and had to drive back home to get them (and got there almost 3 hours later than expected :(), we still had plenty of time. All in all a good day with friends.

They only sold >5,000 tickets...I have never seen Deer Creek so empty. They even opened the last 8 or 10 rows of pavilion up to lawn people. We rocked the place, though!