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Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 15, 2004, 09:01:47 am
If anyone is interested in joining a FOR FUN ONLY pool, I set one up on Yahoo! for us. No money, just bragging rights.

Group ID: 46128
Password: vortex
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: davepeck on March 15, 2004, 09:10:42 am
good idea, ant.. i signed up, but haven\'t made my picks yet...

link:

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men/register/joinprivategroup
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: tiedyetoga on March 15, 2004, 09:11:04 am
I don\'t gamble.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 15, 2004, 09:23:18 am
Quote
Originally posted by tiedyetoga
I don\'t gamble.


no money involved whatsoever
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 15, 2004, 09:24:18 am
Better link, this one is for the sign up page.

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men (http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men)
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 15, 2004, 10:30:07 am
great....i\'ll be in before the first tip
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: leith on March 15, 2004, 02:10:03 pm
Quote
Originally posted by tiedyetoga
I don\'t gamble.


You know that\'s a lie. Come on now u must mean u do not gamble for $$$$.

Because the way you vote seems to be a gamble to me :)
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 15, 2004, 05:47:19 pm
I\'m in...Uconn4Life
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 15, 2004, 07:55:25 pm
Quote
Originally posted by tiedyetoga
I don\'t gamble.


Are you not placing a single bet in Vegas?  That\'s self-control!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 15, 2004, 07:59:06 pm
BTW here\'s the site where you can win a million bucks by picking a perfect bracket.  Hard, sure, but someone hit it last year.  Free entry!

http://mayhem.sportsline.com/splash/mayhem/spln/opc/free2
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 15, 2004, 08:22:08 pm
.

Because the way you vote seems to be a gamble to me :) [/B][/QUOTE]



hey this might be a good time for me to learn how to move a post to different thread...cause here we go again
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: tiedyetoga on March 16, 2004, 01:18:04 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Wolfman
Are you not placing a single bet in Vegas?  That\'s self-control!


What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. After I conduct all my business, I\'m going to be out of control going wild!!! Viva Las Vegas!!!!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: tiedyetoga on March 16, 2004, 01:19:45 pm
Quote
Originally posted by leith
You know that\'s a lie. Come on now u must mean u do not gamble for $$$$.

Because the way you vote seems to be a gamble to me :)


Oh man.... Its on in Vegas. Round 1.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 16, 2004, 10:27:17 pm
OK, I\'m in the pool.  Monmouth all the way baby!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 16, 2004, 10:41:53 pm
I got some risky risky picks in the pool at my mother\'s work (200+ people at $20 a pop).

Got BC to the elite 8, as well as Florida, NC State and UNC in the final four in one.  Western Michigan, Texas, and Charlotte in the elite 8 on the other.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 18, 2004, 12:19:14 pm
Tick, tick, tick... 5 minutes to lock \'em in.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 18, 2004, 12:59:53 pm
not as much interest I expected, but hey, the seven of us will have a go at it.

National Champion Picks:
Connecitcut - 3 peoples
Stanford - 1
Oklahoma State -  1
Kentucky - 1
Pittsburgh - 1

Didnt really check anyones picks except the final fours, surprised to see so many North Carolinas in there (myself included)
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: leith on March 18, 2004, 01:09:31 pm
Anyone else playing hooky from work to watch games?
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 18, 2004, 01:11:01 pm
nope, get out in 45 minutes, then skipping class to watch games/sleep since I didnt get much sleep last night and had a helluva lot of whiskey. btw Leith, Dark Star was phenomenal.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: davepeck on March 18, 2004, 01:37:33 pm
46-35 Manhattan with 15:00 to play!! :thumbsup:
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: leith on March 18, 2004, 01:48:01 pm
Figures. What era did they play? I guess I can just go to DSO site .
Texas Tech 45 Char 38
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 18, 2004, 02:08:49 pm
Goddam manhattan...
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 18, 2004, 11:50:39 pm
I wanted to take Manhattan because picking against the Gators has been the easiest thing to do for 4 years running..they are the new Kansas.  If Florida was playing anyone else I woulda picked against them, but I saw Manhattan\'s first round game last year against Oklahoma State and the Jaspers didn\'t even put up a fight, so couldn\'t take them.   Oh well.  I had Florida losing in round 2, so no big loss there.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 19, 2004, 12:07:26 am
Dave can provide VERIFICATION of these picks since I\'m posting them as Dayton and DePaul play a second overtime. A call was placed to Dave at noon today stating the following:

FINAL FOUR

Georgia Tech
Oklahoma St.
Duke
Connecticut

FINAL

Oklahoma St. vs. Duke

CHAMPION

Duke

UPSET SPECIALS

Texas Tech over St. Joseph
Nevada over Gonzaga

Pitch
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Stephengencs on March 19, 2004, 12:23:33 am
I suck at the NC2A pools....

my final 4

CT
UNC

Ok. State
Ga. Tech

Finals
CT   97
Ga. Tech 85

Uconn....baby
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 19, 2004, 12:43:11 am
And after day 1.....I OWN this thing!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 19, 2004, 02:30:46 pm
wow in my money pool, not ours, after the early games today Im 19/20 with Charlotte being the only wrong pick. hopefully I\'ll stay hot and take home the $1500 first prize!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 19, 2004, 03:25:19 pm
niice pot....The other one I\'m in is a $125 pot...
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 19, 2004, 03:37:31 pm
Quote
Originally posted by realisthis
niice pot....


Yea, thats just a rough estimate, I wont know the exact figures until Monday when the guy sends us all the scores and money breakdown. But it\'s $20 a pop and two offices (North Haven and Boston), so it\'s usually like 200+ people in it. Last year top 6 got $$$, first place was like $1350 or something, I finished 7th, lol.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 19, 2004, 10:59:23 pm
Caution:  First-round victories do not ensure future success!

I\'ve run a lot of pools, and having the lead at the end of the first weekend is meaningless.  Just about everyone has an equal shot after the first 2 rounds, unless your champion got knocked out.  Your big picks must still come through!  19/20 is pretty impressive though.  I got Pacific today.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 19, 2004, 11:49:35 pm
And since I\'m a long-time pool commissioner and numbers geek, I would like to break down and analyze Yahoo\'s scoring system.  The scoring system is 1-2-4-8-16-32 points per round.  

Good side:
-Nice balance between first 3 rounds and last 3 rounds.  Later games are generally worth appropriately more.    
-Equal points available each round...consistancy.
-You could argue that there is too much weight in the last 2 rounds.  Having one extra team sneak into the Final Four and/or the finals could nullify your opponent\'s consistent dominance in rounds 1-3.  However, I like the extra weight because it keeps everyone in it.  Nothing makes for a boring pool more than having people basically out of it after the first weekend.  Even if you have a bad first weekend, your big picks can still carry the mail.  

Bad side:
-Picking the champion is worth just as much as picking the ENTIRE FINAL FOUR?  Bad.  Picking the champion is just a matter of taking a 1 or 2 seed and writing them all the way in.  Last year was an exception, 1-3 seeds almost always win.  It\'s always a team that a lot of people have, and is thus not super hard.  Picking the entire Final Four is a major accomplishment in bracketeering.  I\'ve only had 1 person ever do it in the 5 pools I\'ve run out of about 500-600 total entrants.  
- No upset points in round 1.  This is such an interesting aspect that can\'t be ignored.  There\'s nothing more boring than watching someone who picks nothing but favorites take the lead when there are almost no upsets.  It\'s the only round where you know the matchups from the start, so it\'s a perfect time to add this dynamic.
-Too many multiples of 4...too many similar scores and possible ties.  

My favorite system is 2-5-10-15-20-25 w/ 3 points for round 1 upsets, or, if I have some dynamic players on my hands, 3 points for upsets seeds 9-11 and 4 points for upsets seeds 12-16.  The weighting here is a little different, more emphasis on consistancy throughout the rounds rather than in the last 2 or 3 rounds.  It\'s better for most because middle-round games matter more, whereas in the Yahoo system the first 3 rounds mean little.  This system thus generates more games that are meaningful.  It\'s worse for a few because the most points in my system are scored in rounds 3 and 4, so there\'s always a few people who are more or less out before the Final Four.  The 2 points in round 1 throws the last digit of everyone\'s score off, then it stays consistent with the 5\'s and 0\'s, so you never have to worry about a tie, and you always know exactly how many more games you need than the other guy to take him over.  Picking the entire Final Four is worth slightly more than twice as much as picking the champ (60 vs 25.)  It\'s at least 3 times harder to pick the entire Final Four than just the champion, so this is a good point to be at while still having meaning to your championship game.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 19, 2004, 11:55:01 pm
i forgot to get in like a dumb ass....sorry...i do have an entry in on the moe board if you want to take it....my favorite pool wolfy, is a seed pool where you get points solely on the the seed of the team you pick to win, with a bonus for the national champ...theoretically, by picking some upsets,you could win without the national champ but it would be unlikely...it\'s fun and it encourages you to take some chances
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 20, 2004, 12:03:57 am
That\'s an interesting idea.  I\'d need more detail, but thats ok, I can see where it is going.  However, I don\'t like systems where one virtually has to pick the champion to have a chance at winning.  Mot systems are like this, and I think the Yahoo! system is dangerously close...we\'ll see.  To me, later rounds obviously should be worth more, but at the same time pool victory should be based largely on consistently good picks throughout the difficult matchups in rounds 2-5.  Pools with such heavy weight on the champion might as well just ask people for their champion pick, with the other finalist as a tiebreaker, and to hell with the rest of the bracket.  That\'s not the way it should be.

* * *
On that note, my super-dirty tiebreaker that I\'ve never gotten to use is simply who made more correct picks.  (Or you could think of it as every round is worth 1 point.)  A lot of emphasis on round 1, I know, but hey, you knew the matchups from the start!  I find this tiebreaker compelling, but ties in the 2-5-10-15-20-25 system are pretty much impossible.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 20, 2004, 12:17:15 am
Not a bad start for my bracket.  I had a few gambles backfire (see: Western Michigan), but I\'ve got 15 of my Sweet 16 still alive.  Kentucky and North Carolina (my finalists) both scared me this weekend, hopefully they got that out of their system.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 20, 2004, 12:31:49 am
I went 24-8 for the first round, but more importantly, did not lose a Sweet 16 team. And though Wake Forest is one of my Sweet 16 teams, I\'m rooting for the Jaspers tomorrow, and wouldn\'t be shocked if they pulled off the upset.

Pitch
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 20, 2004, 12:44:20 am
yeah but you know you cain\'t win......your a mets fan....course...i cain\'t win cause i\'m a dumb ass...but that won\'t keep me from pokin\' fun at you
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 20, 2004, 02:17:55 am
I\'m starting to think that you\'re a ROYAL pain

Hardy Har,

Pitch
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 20, 2004, 09:43:16 am
chris....watch sports center this am for your royals spring training update with harold reynolds...not to be missed
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 20, 2004, 11:58:50 am
after a 19/20 start I went 6/12 in the night games to end the 1st round at 25-7 with 3 sweet 16 teams out :( oh well, got my hopes high for nothing, wonder how im doing in the Breakfast Fans group. . .
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 20, 2004, 12:21:42 pm
OK, I\'m really letting the geekdom hang loose in this thread...

Consider this when thinking about how much harder it is to pick the Final Four than the champion:

Using only seeds 1-4 in each region, there are 256 possible Final Fours.  (4 to the 4th power.)  Using only seeds 1-5 in each region, there are 625 possible Final Fours. (5 to the 4th power.)  And 5 seeds have a funny habit of having one make it every year.  

Most people only consider 1-2 seeds as their champion.  Using only 1-2 seeds in each region, there are 8 possible champions.  Using only 1-4 seeds, there are 16 possible champions.  

Bottom line:  It is much, much, much harder to pick the Final Four than the champion.  A scoring system should reflect this.

P.S.  There are 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 ways to fill out the bracket!!!!!  (2 to the 63rd power.)  

In case you\'re writing that out on a check, that\'s nine thousand two hundred twenty three thousand trillion three hundred seventy two trillion thirty six billion eight hundred fifty four million seven hundred seventy five thousand eight hundred and eight dollars and zero cents.

:chin: :hscratch: :holyshit: :huh:
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 20, 2004, 01:51:46 pm
:hscratch:

If you say so, heh
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 20, 2004, 04:04:29 pm
O man! sound it!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 20, 2004, 05:14:05 pm
did anyone else just skim that?
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: leith on March 20, 2004, 06:28:32 pm
There is some ser wiring going on in Wolf\'s skull.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 20, 2004, 07:10:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by oldnewbie
did anyone else just skim that?


That\'s OK Duane, not everyone can keep up with me ;)  These posts are for the Chris Pitches of the world.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 20, 2004, 07:23:04 pm
amazingly no one had the Zags getting past Ga Tech next round so it didnt kill anyone. . .
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: davepeck on March 20, 2004, 08:05:44 pm
so how many people\'s brackets just got f\'ed with stanford going out??
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 20, 2004, 08:12:13 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Wolfman
That\'s OK Duane, not everyone can keep up with me ;)  These posts are for the Chris Pitches of the world.


oh good
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 20, 2004, 08:56:38 pm
Mine! Also picked Maryland and Gonzaga....Also, F St. Joes those overrated hawks~
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 21, 2004, 02:06:21 am
Yup, I had Stanford winning the championship.  For the first time in 7 years, I did not pick Duke (my favorite team)  Good luck to everyone else in the pool, nice knowing ya!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 21, 2004, 02:53:59 am
:holyshit: :holyshit: :holyshit:

WOWZERS!  Has anyone checked out Yahoo\'s scenario generator?!  This thing is awsome baby!  Go to your team and hit the scenario generator link.  You can see who will win the pool based on any scenario.  I used to provide this information for my contestants once the Final Four was decided, but it took me HOURS to compile, projecting everyone\'s score over the 8 possible scenarios in the last 3 games.  This thing instantly generates complete pool standings based on any of the millions of possible bracket scenarios that are left.  

As it stands, if I hit EVERY game left, I will win the pool over Pecoraro by just 6 points.  Looks like Pec is in the driver\'s seat.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: davepeck on March 21, 2004, 09:19:47 am
with everything that happened yesterday, i have no idea how i\'m in 1st right now! we all know that can change quickly though..

stanford may have screwed my bracket slightly, but it\'s great news for uconn! :thumbsup:
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 21, 2004, 11:08:23 am
I had North Carolina in the finals... I guess I can just sit back and enjoy the tournament now.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 21, 2004, 07:16:16 pm
Well depite having only 9 of my Sweet 16 teams alive, I do have 6 of my Elite 8 teams going, plus my entire Final Four. Overall an average weekend for excitement with today being the best.

And Seth, I appreciate your concern for my statisical obsessive-compulsiveness, but I have one question for you: when you\'re watching NCAA Tournament games, do you count the amount of words and/or syllables spoken by the commentators?

Pitch
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 21, 2004, 08:11:17 pm
Well, I\'m officially gone.  With the help of the "scenario generator", I\'ve determined that even if all of my picks are correct (where possible), I\'ll lose to Ant by 1 point.  Kentucky, Kenshmucky.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 21, 2004, 08:17:23 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChrisPitch
And Seth, ...I have one question for you: when you\'re watching NCAA Tournament games, do you count the amount of words and/or syllables spoken by the commentators?

Pitch


No, I prefer not to listen to the commentators, but I do count the number of steps taken by all players on the floor (while the clock is running.)  Funny you should ask too, because today\'s UAB/Kentucky game featured the most steps of any game I have ever counted.  UAB, with their full-court press and tenacious double-defense, took an astronomical 21,147 steps!  Kentucky took a still way-above-average 18,818 for a grand total of 39,965.  Bear in mind tht the general ballpark numbers for an average team is 16,000 SPG and average game is 32,000 total SPG.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: davepeck on March 21, 2004, 08:26:29 pm
blah.. steps, schmeps... give me a useful statistic for once, wolf...

HOW MANY DRIBBLES????????????
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 21, 2004, 08:26:41 pm
WOW.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 21, 2004, 11:57:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by davepeck
blah.. steps, schmeps... give me a useful statistic for once, wolf...

HOW MANY DRIBBLES????????????


Dribbles are a useless stat.  I gave up counting dribbles for steps when I was about 12.  Teams with fewer dribbles often win because they are better at passing.  Teams that stand around in set offenses generate lots of dribbles, but this does not necessarily indicate scoring.  In fact, in blowouts, the losing team almost always has more dribbles because the other team is scoring fast easy buckets on them, often created by strong passing.  I find that dribbles are a very weak and inconsistent indicator of success.  

Steps, on the other hand, indicate how hard a team is playing.  A losing team is always either losing because they are flat-footed, or become flat-footed because they are losing.  Teams with more steps win over 92% of the time!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: jocelyn on March 22, 2004, 12:19:29 am
Holy cow I knew there was a reason I hadn\'t read any of this thread yet....
Title: MARCH MORON
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 22, 2004, 01:44:24 am
C\'mon everybody! Who\'s in for my Divsion III NIT pool? I have Anchorage A&M beating Walla Walla Tech in the final.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 22, 2004, 08:25:34 am
Pitch, I\'ll play, heh. That way I can win and not have a clue about any team in the tournament ala most office pools!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 22, 2004, 09:14:51 am
i\'ve got the mets losing in the second round of that tourney
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 22, 2004, 09:23:42 am
and the red sox losing in the final four, triple OT, game winning shot by superstar basketball guru Aaron Boone
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 22, 2004, 09:27:20 am
wow....just like before....some things never change
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 22, 2004, 09:29:59 am
Quote
Originally posted by jocelyn
Holy cow I knew there was a reason I hadn\'t read any of this thread yet....


holy shit...there\'s a girl in here....and watch it...she\'ll make trouble if you give her the chance
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 22, 2004, 09:36:15 am
Quote
Originally posted by oldnewbie
holy shit...there\'s a girl in here....and watch it...she\'ll make trouble if you give her the chance


and to top that, if she was in this pool she\'s win.
Title: Re: MARCH MORON
Post by: Wolfman on March 22, 2004, 07:10:43 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChrisPitch
C\'mon everybody! Who\'s in for my Divsion III NIT pool? I have Anchorage A&M beating Walla Walla Tech in the final.


I used to do a 25 cent women\'s tourney pool in high school, I\'d get like 5 people to play.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: jocelyn on March 23, 2004, 03:13:42 pm
25 cents? Wow Seth, glad to hear you take the ladies so seriously.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 23, 2004, 07:30:36 pm
It\'s not me, it\'s the market.  I tried doing it for $2 and nobody would play.  I tried $1 and nobody would play.  At a quarter, some people would play.  For free nobody would play either because there would be nothing on the line.  25 cents is what the market demanded, and being the entrepreneuring bookie that I am (was), I gave the market what it demanded.  

I was quite possibly the only person in the country doing a women\'s money pool at all, it even got guys to watch the women\'s tourney on TV, so I\'d say that I did the ladies a huge favor!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 28, 2004, 12:23:21 am
How bout them Huskies? ;)
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 28, 2004, 09:10:10 am
all the way baby....boys AND girls
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 28, 2004, 08:58:43 pm
Aww man, the scenario generator crashed because there are two 2-seeds.  It doesn\'t matter for me, my tourney was done in round 2 when Stanford lost.  First time I haven\'t picked Duke in 7 years, they\'re my favorite, I always pick them, but thought I\'d finally go for a change of pace this year.  Duke will beat UConn 110-58.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 28, 2004, 09:03:35 pm
Quote
 Duke will beat UConn 110-58. [/B]


you just lost a lot of credibility with me stat man.....and we were gonna sk for your help with THE other thread
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: antbach on March 29, 2004, 09:04:57 am
Congrats to realisthis and leith. Using the scenario generator, real wins in any scenario EXCEPT an Oklahoma State National Title, then leith pulls it out. Good job!
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: jocelyn on March 29, 2004, 12:25:50 pm
Seems to me like the scenario generator takes a lot of the fun out of it. You know the odds of everything happening, there\'s no anticipation....
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 29, 2004, 08:13:32 pm
Quote
Originally posted by oldnewbie
you just lost a lot of credibility with me stat man.....and we were gonna sk for your help with THE other thread


You\'re right, Duke 110-58 was a silly prediction.  Duke 131-20.  What\'s the other thead?
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: realisthis on March 29, 2004, 08:23:54 pm
As of this morning Uconn is a 3 point favorite...
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: Wolfman on March 29, 2004, 08:29:13 pm
Quote
Originally posted by jocelyn
Seems to me like the scenario generator takes a lot of the fun out of it. You know the odds of everything happening, there\'s no anticipation....


Nope, it\'s actually quite the opposite.  If you know which scenarios make you win or lose, then the games become much more exciting.  If you know for example that you need UConn to win and Georgia Tech to lose (especially if there\'s money in the pool), then the games become way more exciting than if you don\'t know which scenarios win it for you.  Without the scenario generator, it would take hours of number crunching every scenario on everyone\'s bracket to figure out if you could win.  The scenario generator adds tons of excitement to anyone who still has a chance.  (i.e. not me)
Title: PROGNOSTICATOR PITCHIE STRIKES AGAIN!!!
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 30, 2004, 03:23:18 am
What more can I say?

I\'ve accurately predicted the Final Four. When Duke beats Oklahoma St. in the final, my genius status will be solidified. While I\'m at it, Cubs beat the Yankees in the World Series.

Prog
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: leith on March 30, 2004, 03:52:47 am
The only team I got left is Ok. St. and I got them to win it all. I admit if they take it it was pure luck on my part pickin\' em. I really did not follow college this yr. as my attention has been on the fab 4 and rick. I did see one Ok.St. game and they looked good and they matched up in the brackets pretty well so.....
Oh and the Angels may have something to say abt that other prediction.
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 30, 2004, 09:44:02 am
UCONN
Title: pbfans.com NCAA Tournament Pool
Post by: oldnewbie on March 30, 2004, 09:44:41 am
HUSKIES
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Post by: oldnewbie on March 30, 2004, 09:45:47 am
UCONN....
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Post by: oldnewbie on March 30, 2004, 09:46:20 am
......HUSKIES
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Post by: realisthis on March 30, 2004, 10:46:32 am
You guys are all fools except ^^^^^^
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on March 30, 2004, 06:54:21 pm
I guess Wolfman was right about the Final Four games being weighted too heavily.  For Leith, Oklahoma St. winning a game is the difference between finishing second and finishing last.  Damn.

On a side note, if Oklahoma St. wins on Saturday, I\'ll be the one finishing last instead of Leith.  I suppose I do still have something to cheer for (aside from the mighty Huskies, of course).
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Post by: leith on March 30, 2004, 07:07:48 pm
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
I guess Wolfman was right about the Final Four games being weighted too heavily.  For Leith, Oklahoma St. winning a game is the difference between finishing second and finishing last.  Damn.

On a side note, if Oklahoma St. wins on Saturday, I\'ll be the one finishing last instead of Leith.  I suppose I do still have something to cheer for (aside from the mighty Huskies, of course).


No shit? Well damn go Cowboys!! This is so funny. LOL whoooo
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 01, 2004, 10:59:34 am
i was going to syracuse to watch moe film their dvd on saturday....now i\'m staying home to watch the huskies kick some duke ass!
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Post by: antbach on April 01, 2004, 12:48:19 pm
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Originally posted by oldnewbie
i was going to syracuse to watch moe film their dvd on saturday....


my bus(car pool) leaves for syracuse at 9:30 am (eastern time)
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 01, 2004, 02:22:30 pm
hey....do you need tix?
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Post by: antbach on April 01, 2004, 03:07:06 pm
we\'re just gonna get them up there, Im pretty sure its not sold out, even if I did there\'s no way Im goin to CT and back tonight, heh
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Post by: antbach on April 01, 2004, 03:23:59 pm
wow, what a wierd scenario, I made my 401st post on 4-01, but now its at 402, oh well
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Post by: Wolfman on April 04, 2004, 12:18:15 pm
Wow, it\'s noon on Sunday, can\'t believe nobody\'s posted here yet.  Well, I\'m a huge Duke fan and I don\'t like UConn (I went to UMass) so I was pretty pissed about the outcome of that game, but I gotta give mad amounts of credit to the Huskies, they are stacked.  They only needed Okafor for half the game, and in the clutch, he was the man.  He should\'ve gotten player of the year over Jameer Nelson.  UConn did the usually impossible task of outplaying Duke in the last 5 minutes of a game, and not only did they outplay them, they completely dominated.  Deng is such a moron, taking 4 lousy jumpers down the stretch with Duhon and Reddick in the wings.  Coach K should\'ve pulled him right off the floor.  I was not happy with the way the refs basically took over the game.  It went both ways equally, it just sucked in general, and it really took away from what could have been a better overall game.  I have never seen so many fouls called in a game.  In the end I really just hope for a great game, so when Okafor went out in the first half, even though I was pulling hard for Duke, I was kind of upset about it.  It takes away from the game, and cheapens the win if Duke wins.  (If I may digress for a second, I think that the whole concept of fouling out is a horrible concept and should be done away with.  A player\'s 5th personal and every personal thereafter should either be automatic double bonus for the other team, or even automatic technical, but not ejection.)  So bottom line, highly highly entertaining game although not a "great" game due to the sloppiness and the fact that both starting centers spent more time on the pine than the hardwood!  

Good luck to the Huskies on Monday for all you UConn fans, though I can\'t say that I can root for them.  Schensher will destroy Okafor!
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Post by: davepeck on April 04, 2004, 12:33:22 pm
couldn\'t have said it better, wolf.. glad uconn won, but easily one of the worst games i\'ve ever sat through because of the way the refs took over the game.. terrible..
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Post by: realisthis on April 04, 2004, 11:29:45 pm
Agree about the oficiating...Cry it up Coach K, they did call fouls against Uconn too...Our star player did sit the whole first hal and we still stayed in it...Looks like its Connecticut in the Championship game on Monday and Tuesday...The Lady Huskies just won and will face Tennessee yet again!
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Post by: leith on April 05, 2004, 12:50:54 am
UCONN double title? Would be neat and if the guys r hoops fans at all maybe it will jack \'em up some more.
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Post by: origen on April 05, 2004, 09:58:19 am
Not gonna happen.  I\'m probably the only G tech dude on this board but GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: realisthis on April 05, 2004, 06:56:46 pm
YES, you are the only G tech dude on this board, but surprisingly and I dont think I have too many fellow die hard Husky fans either in here...Oh well, Im heading over to Uconn in 10 min. to watch the game...FUCK GEORGIA TECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO UCONN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 06, 2004, 12:14:06 am
UConn!


Huskies!
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Post by: Wolfman on April 06, 2004, 12:19:44 am
Too easy.  Entirely unfair having 4 guys at 6\'10\'\' on one college team.  The Huskies could definitely take on the Bulls or Warriors.  Congrats to whoever won the pool too.
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Post by: antbach on April 06, 2004, 01:01:12 am
I must be the only CT resident to dislike the Huskies :( Congrats though. . .
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 06, 2004, 01:02:42 am
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Originally posted by Wolfman
Too easy.  Entirely unfair having 4 guys at 6\'10\'\' on one college team.  The Huskies could definitely take on the Bulls or Warriors.  Congrats to whoever won the pool too.


No college team could ever beat a professional basketball team... even a shitty one.  UConn may have 3 or 4 players good enough to play in the NBA, but even my favorite team, the lowly Washington Wizards, have TWELVE.

The same goes 100 times over for a college football team vs. an NFL team, by the way.
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Post by: antbach on April 06, 2004, 01:08:31 am
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley

The same goes 100 times over for a college football team vs. an NFL team, by the way.


now? maybe. . . but I\'d say there are a couple college teams that could have gave the Cardinals a run for their money this year.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 06, 2004, 01:34:51 am
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Originally posted by antbach
now? maybe. . . but I\'d say there are a couple college teams that could have gave the Cardinals a run for their money this year.

It comes down to the offensive line.  How many college offensive lineman weigh 300lbs. and can actually move?  Maybe 30.  Every NFL team has at least 3.  The NFL QB would have all day in the pocket, and the college quarterback wouldn\'t even get a chance to drop back to pass.
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Post by: realisthis on April 06, 2004, 02:01:07 am
What have I been saying all season? WHAT!? FUCK ALL YOU HATERS, GOOD NIGHT, SWEET DREAMS, MAYBE NEXT YEAR EVERYBODY...MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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Post by: davepeck on April 06, 2004, 06:45:21 am
:thumbsup: UCONN
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Post by: davepeck on April 06, 2004, 06:46:26 am
final rankings:

1     Uconn4Life   142
2     Vegas Unbound Wook   137
3     davepeck   124
4     ant\'s picks   88
5     wolfmanwins   66
6     The King Has Spoken   63
7     Leith\'s picks    58
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 06, 2004, 09:00:35 am
well.....i won the pool on the moe pt board.....sure wish i\'d got my entry in here....more importantly.....all you college kids can explain what it means to bet $100 on the huskies to win the tourney at 7 to 1.....oh yeah.....party down.....game on
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 06, 2004, 09:02:13 am
ahhh, the locker room...you can almost smell it from here.
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Post by: leith on April 06, 2004, 06:22:15 pm
Ya\'ll here what UCONN\'s  women\'s coach said abt New England ? He said if a UCONN double title happened what\'s nxt Red Sox winning the Series? He then said everyone would have to move out of New England \'cause they would have nothing to complain about"  Absolu classic!!!!
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 06, 2004, 06:26:39 pm
oh.....we\'d still have the weather
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Post by: leith on April 06, 2004, 06:32:47 pm
lol yeah i forgot u guys get weather out there
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Post by: leith on April 06, 2004, 10:34:25 pm
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Originally posted by leith
UCONN double title? Would be neat and if the guys r hoops fans at all maybe it will jack \'em up some more.


Oh yeah! Nice going UCONN now don\'t burn the state down.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 06, 2004, 10:55:36 pm
Don\'t worry.  At Fairfield, there\'s not a riot to be seen.  But at least our football and hockey teams went undefeated!
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 06, 2004, 11:21:54 pm
don\'t worry.....the clam jam is coming
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Post by: antbach on April 06, 2004, 11:30:13 pm
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
Don\'t worry.  At Fairfield, there\'s not a riot to be seen.  But at least our football and hockey teams went undefeated!


thats cos your hockey team isnt even in the NCAA anymore ;)
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 06, 2004, 11:38:17 pm
football either ant
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Post by: antbach on April 07, 2004, 12:18:18 am
ahh, no kiddin, I know the hockey team joined the ACHA this year and was pretty dominant, didn\'t know the football team wasn\'t NCAA anymore and still had some organization to play for as a club.
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 07, 2004, 12:55:28 am
schools cain\'t afford to add enough girls sports to match the boys as is federally mandated, so the answer is becoming more common to just drop the boys sports, especially one like football that requires a large roster...another example of a good idea taken way too far
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 07, 2004, 01:02:55 am
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Originally posted by antbach
thats cos your hockey team isnt even in the NCAA anymore ;)

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Originally posted by oldnewbie
football either ant

Hey, people got the joke!  I was actually regretting that post after I made it, figuring that nobody would pick up on it.
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 07, 2004, 01:37:45 am
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
Hey, people got the joke!  I was actually regretting that post after I made it, figuring that nobody would pick up on it.


i may be dumb....but i didn\'t get this old by being stupid...now....good night
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Post by: realisthis on April 07, 2004, 10:43:05 am
We both are the champions my friends...