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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Wolfman on November 01, 2011, 07:06:41 pm
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So I made it through the show on Friday OK, but now I\'m listening to Percy Hill and getting REALLY nostalgic for the late-90\'s/early 00\'s northeast jam scene:
Percy Hill, Miracle Orchestra, GSW, Jiggle the Handle, Strangefolk w/ Reid, Addison Groove Project, PB, The Slip...
*sigh* Well, we\'re really lucky that PB lasted WAY longer than all those bands. Total miracle, actually.
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I plan on spending my next year with Otis Grove, Akashic Record, and Groove Shoes, and DPR, and maybe a Kung Fu show or two
Obviously without PB/TB around anymore not only our little scene but good music in the Northeast has taken a hit
Yeah I was a fan of The Slip especially around Y2K.. Strangefolk as well
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I plan on spending my next year with Otis Grove, Akashic Record, and Groove Shoes, and DPR, and maybe a Kung Fu show or two
Obviously without PB/TB around anymore not only our little scene but good music in the Northeast has taken a hit
Yeah I was a fan of The Slip especially around Y2K.. Strangefolk as well
I\'ll have to give those bands a shake at some point.
I hear you on Slip2K. The Slip 12/31/00 is the only band I have ever seen on NYE besides The Breakfast (7x) and Phish (3x) and it is still one of my Top-25 all-time shows seen. Strangefolk when Reid Genauer was in the band was awesome. Their lead guitar player was kind of a wuss in jams but Reid\'s vocals and the overall melodies and lyrics were the best on the scene. Both bands were the pristine product of pre-9/11 innocence and pre-digital-era organic jamrock. Few if any bands are playing songs like those now.
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I\'ve been going through all the FFs for the last couple of days... I have a couple more before I can get to this years show... After all these years, the FF1 is still my favorite...
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Don\'t Forget Mori Stylez Wolf, That band was devastating.
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what about Schleigho
I wasnt\' really aware of them until this year when Bonzo told me to listen to them... they\'re pretty sick but I don\'t think they play anymore
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what about Schleigho
I wasnt\' really aware of them until this year when Bonzo told me to listen to them... they\'re pretty sick but I don\'t think they play anymore
Big fan of Schleigho. I certainly missed their heyday, but they still play out a few times a year.
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Don\'t Forget Mori Stylez Wolf, That band was devastating.
those were my boyz from UHA... if I have time tomorrow I\'ll try and megaupload their albums. I have a few discs that weren\'t heavily circulated.
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loved mori stylez
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Don\'t Forget Mori Stylez Wolf, That band was devastating.
those were my boyz from UHA... if I have time tomorrow I\'ll try and megaupload their albums. I have a few discs that weren\'t heavily circulated.
YES Don/Jimmy! Saw them at least 10 times and booked them in Butterfield! Dennis and crew were not to be fucked with.
Please UL that stuff Don! I would be most grateful. Thanks!
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Uncle Sammy was solid too.
I dunno, there are still some Northeast band that kick it, Indobox, if you\'re into that type of shit can be a fun time.
Hell, I randomly ended up at Fungus Amungus on Saturday night and had a surprisingly good time. Maybe cuz it was their Halloween show and played 2001, Moby Dick, Shine On You Crazy Diamond and Frankenstein. I\'ve heard enough good things about Otis Grove and Higher Organix and a few others.
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Uncle Sammy was indeed fun and probably the best ever co-bill with PB.
Another band that fits in the discussion and is still at it is Soulive. Glad they\'re still kicking it. There\'s no way they have played nearly as many shows as The Breakfast though.
The big national jam acts from the time have actually held up quite well: MMW, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, SCI, Biscuits, and Phish. All still groovin\'! Although the Flecktones and Bisco are the only ones that still tour like they used to. We\'re very lucky on this front.
Oh and of course WSP. Almost forgot! I forget they exist sometimes.
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Mori Stylez albums...
Mori Stylez(Debut Album) - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UBDN3ERF
Rules for Rotation - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J00WZK3Z
Singles - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26WYS3Z1
The Final Cuts - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H34ZQBVX
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Uncle Sammy was indeed fun and probably the best ever co-bill with PB.
Another band that fits in the discussion and is still at it is Soulive. Glad they\'re still kicking it. There\'s no way they have played nearly as many shows as The Breakfast though.
The big national jam acts from the time have actually held up quite well: MMW, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, SCI, Biscuits, and Phish. All still groovin\'! Although the Flecktones and Bisco are the only ones that still tour like they used to. We\'re very lucky on this front.
Oh and of course WSP. Almost forgot! I forget they exist sometimes.
Bisco hasn\'t been touring for shit lately and Panic is due for a hiatus after this year I tihink. Cheese plays like twice a year, I\'m thinkful we get as much Phish as we can. And oh yeah, moe. is still touring strong;)
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Sparkplug is also wicked sick.... \'the music of melvin sparks"
they played recently in CT with Scott Murawski (from Max Creek)
I missed it but saw a youtube clip it was rediculous
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Thanks for the Mori Stylez albums man, NICE!!!!! Soulive has definetely become a pretty big entity (ha ha..tity). They had some festival at Killington over the summer and it included Lettuce and a couple other side groups of theirs. Anyone remember a free show they did at Trinity in the \'02? Badass, then MMW did a similar show with a Q and A before hand, it was so dope. Nostalgia Running Rampant around here.
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The Slip still plays and is in SF for NYE this year.
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they still play here and there, but far from regularly.
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Thanks for the Mori Stylez albums man, NICE!!!!! Soulive has definetely become a pretty big entity (ha ha..tity). They had some festival at Killington over the summer and it included Lettuce and a couple other side groups of theirs. Anyone remember a free show they did at Trinity in the \'02? Badass, then MMW did a similar show with a Q and A before hand, it was so dope. Nostalgia Running Rampant around here.
I was at the MMW Q+A show at Trinity College in \'04. Great stuff.
moe. obviously on the list and going strong. Can one of you moe.rons give us a ballpark number on how many shows they have played?
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Thanks for the Mori Stylez albums man, NICE!!!!! Soulive has definetely become a pretty big entity (ha ha..tity). They had some festival at Killington over the summer and it included Lettuce and a couple other side groups of theirs. Anyone remember a free show they did at Trinity in the \'02? Badass, then MMW did a similar show with a Q and A before hand, it was so dope. Nostalgia Running Rampant around here.
I was at the MMW Q+A show at Trinity College in \'04. Great stuff.
moe. obviously on the list and going strong. (I shoulda mentioned them before.) Can one of you moe.rons give us a ballpark number on how many shows they have played?
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These guys sucked, but I remember Mighty Purple... They were out of Hamden...
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I think it\'s safe to say the jamband "bubble" has popped. Very few of these bands survive, as most of you have noticed and mentioned. Seems the scene has shifted toward electronica/dj mashup weirdness.
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I think it\'s safe to say the jamband "bubble" has popped. Very few of these bands survive, as most of you have noticed and mentioned. Seems the scene has shifted toward electronica/dj mashup weirdness.
Definitely in the northeast it\'s more or less over. The Breakfast was actually the last of the Mohicans on the northeast jamband front besides moe. And I highly doubt that moe. is making any new fans, they just are fortunate enough to have enough old fans to sustain the program at a reasonable profit. (Same with Phish for that matter.) I guess other parts of the country are different, case in point being Tea Leaf Green making strides with uber-fluffy jamrock. I don\'t blame TLG for not coming up here. Northeast went Bisco > Brothers Past/New Deal/Particle/etc. > Pretty Lights/Girl Talk etc. and the only step left is a full-on embrace of the dubstep revolution. Ugh. I know that some of these little new bands like Indobox exist up here, but I can\'t see any of them going anywhere no matter how good they are.
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Thanks for the Mori Stylez albums man, NICE!!!!! Soulive has definetely become a pretty big entity (ha ha..tity). They had some festival at Killington over the summer and it included Lettuce and a couple other side groups of theirs. Anyone remember a free show they did at Trinity in the \'02? Badass, then MMW did a similar show with a Q and A before hand, it was so dope. Nostalgia Running Rampant around here.
I was at the MMW Q+A show at Trinity College in \'04. Great stuff.
I was at that show too... wasn\'t scofield with them as well?
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Rezi!!!!!!
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I think it\'s safe to say the jamband "bubble" has popped. Very few of these bands survive, as most of you have noticed and mentioned. Seems the scene has shifted toward electronica/dj mashup weirdness.
Definitely in the northeast it\'s more or less over. The Breakfast was actually the last of the Mohicans on the northeast jamband front besides moe. And I highly doubt that moe. is making any new fans, they just are fortunate enough to have enough old fans to sustain the program at a reasonable profit. (Same with Phish for that matter.) I guess other parts of the country are different, case in point being Tea Leaf Green making strides with uber-fluffy jamrock. I don\'t blame TLG for not coming up here. Northeast went Bisco > Brothers Past/New Deal/Particle/etc. > Pretty Lights/Girl Talk etc. and the only step left is a full-on embrace of the dubstep revolution. Ugh. I know that some of these little new bands like Indobox exist up here, but I can\'t see any of them going anywhere no matter how good they are.
Yeah def in the northeast, I have no idea what it\'s like in other parts of the country.
It\'s really a buyer\'s market in the music industry today... if your band doesn\'t shift to what\'s in demand you ain\'t gonna make it. The jam scene has been flooded with too many bands i nthe past 10 years, and the demand to see this type of music is a lot less, making it very tough for any jamband to make it.
Personally I\'m ready for rock music to come back kickin\' in the coming decade, but everything i read and hear says all forms of rock music have been played out. Even hip-hop is dead.
I can\'t stand electro/dj shit, i\'ll tell you that much.
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Am I the only one that was really into PB/TB only? I remember catching crap from people because I thought that Max Creek and Hunbinger Street sucked... PB used to open all the time for Creek and I would just leave after their set was over... I think that it was about the people in the band for me since I became friends with them for a period of time... Before they started really started touring in \'01, they were a rock band that jammed, not a jam band... I had a hard time coming to grip with hear a song that was originally 5 minutes pushed to 10-15, but since it was the boys, I got used to it... I think that is why it was tough for me to get into the different incarnations of the band with Matt and Chris, because they weren\'t the core... Aside from the Dead, Phish and old PB shows, my jam-band days are gone...
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well, Max Creek and Hubinger St. do suck ;)
and as far as the amt. of shows moe. played, there are about 1600 kept track of on PT, but the first few years are missing a shitload, so probably closer to 1800.
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I wouldn\'t exactly call Indobox our saving grace. They strike me as a worse and explicitly gay version of the Disco Biscuits
At least Max Creek can jam
I certainly wouldn\'t mind some serious rock bands popping up even if they don\'t really jam but wrote kick ass songs. That stuff seems to have died out with the 90s though
That said, at least Smashing Pumpkins are still touring and kicking ass
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I think it\'s safe to say the jamband "bubble" has popped. Very few of these bands survive, as most of you have noticed and mentioned. Seems the scene has shifted toward electronica/dj mashup weirdness.
Definitely in the northeast it\'s more or less over. The Breakfast was actually the last of the Mohicans on the northeast jamband front besides moe. And I highly doubt that moe. is making any new fans, they just are fortunate enough to have enough old fans to sustain the program at a reasonable profit. (Same with Phish for that matter.) I guess other parts of the country are different, case in point being Tea Leaf Green making strides with uber-fluffy jamrock. I don\'t blame TLG for not coming up here. Northeast went Bisco > Brothers Past/New Deal/Particle/etc. > Pretty Lights/Girl Talk etc. and the only step left is a full-on embrace of the dubstep revolution. Ugh. I know that some of these little new bands like Indobox exist up here, but I can\'t see any of them going anywhere no matter how good they are.
What about the Royal Family ?
Letuce, Nigel Hall, Krasno, Soulive, Breakscience etc etc based out of Maine.
I guess it depends on definitions of jam band but....
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literally, there are endless bands out there doin what the breakfast have been doin(not musically, but touringwise) and bein fine w/ that? look at the mclovins fer christsakes. they\'re not gonna be the next Phish, but if they\'re in town, I\'d be hardpressed not to go.
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IMO with The Breakfast stepped off the stage, Umphrey\'s McGee is the best band touring now.
Unfortunately they don\'t play around here often enough to catch many shows at all.
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Unfortunately I can\'t stand UM, but I\'ll give them their due. All the more reason to hit the road. no better place to see UM than Chi-town.
what\'s your take on the Brew, tuna?
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What about the Royal Family ?
Letuce, Nigel Hall, Krasno, Soulive, Breakscience etc etc based out of Maine.
I guess it depends on definitions of jam band but....
Royal Family has 0 shows, no bio, and 6 fans listed on Jambase. Never heard of \'em and they don\'t seem to exist. All of those other bands combined have 12 shows on their calendars, and after factoring out two festivals in Florida they have a combined 5 upcoming headliner shows, none in New England or New York. So I don\'t think those acts exactly constitute a northeast jam scene.
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Unfortunately I can\'t stand UM, but I\'ll give them their due. All the more reason to hit the road. no better place to see UM than Chi-town.
what\'s your take on the Brew, tuna?
Surprised you can\'t stand UM... a lot of their songs are heavy and progressive with sick guitar work. Other songs are dancey and they do awesome covers.
Then again I mostly ignored Umphreys for like 5 years because I was way more interested in catching Breakfast shows wherever possible. But I saw Umphreys just over a month ago and enjoyed it as much as a good Breakfast show. Although I\'m pretty sure Umphreys was really on fire that night.
What is really lame is that thing where the band and the fans put there hands together above their head in some weird "U" shape formation. And the crowd is too big for me to even find all my friends or say hi to everyone I might know. I think I\'ve been spoiled being a Breakfast fan because to me 150-300 people is the perfect size of a crowd to enjoy a concert and still have it be an intimate experience.
As for The Brew, I only saw them twice and both times it was opening for Breakfast. I am listening to them on YouTube right now and they sound like an okay band but not one I will travel to see. If they come to town I\'ll fit it into my schedule, maybe they\'ll win me over live.
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Tea Leaf Green plays the NE twice a year every year. They tour constantly all over the States still going strong.
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What about the Royal Family ?
Letuce, Nigel Hall, Krasno, Soulive, Breakscience etc etc based out of Maine.
I guess it depends on definitions of jam band but....
Royal Family has 0 shows, no bio, and 6 fans listed on Jambase. Never heard of \'em and they don\'t seem to exist. All of those other bands combined have 12 shows on their calendars, and after factoring out two festivals in Florida they have a combined 5 upcoming headliner shows, none in New England or New York. So I don\'t think those acts exactly constitute a northeast jam scene.
royal family is the record company that represents those bands. they are not a band but a family of bands under their umbrella.
you brought up soulive and now they don\'t count ?
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Soulive played like 2 straight weeks in BKLN, I think thats safe to say their NE based.
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What about the Royal Family ?
Letuce, Nigel Hall, Krasno, Soulive, Breakscience etc etc based out of Maine.
I guess it depends on definitions of jam band but....
Royal Family has 0 shows, no bio, and 6 fans listed on Jambase. Never heard of \'em and they don\'t seem to exist. All of those other bands combined have 12 shows on their calendars, and after factoring out two festivals in Florida they have a combined 5 upcoming headliner shows, none in New England or New York. So I don\'t think those acts exactly constitute a northeast jam scene.
royal family is the record company that represents those bands. they are not a band but a family of bands under their umbrella.
you brought up soulive and now they don\'t count ?
I mentioned how we\'re lucky that Soulive exists at all and they do not tour as much as they used to. Royal Family does not a scene make, that\'s for sure.
Other notable jamband casualties include Particle, The New Deal, and Deep Banana Blackout. Surprised Particle and The New Deal couldn\'t hang on longer with an untzy sound but there could be any number of factors that led them to stop. And DBB...wow...can you imagine starting a band with a horn section in 2011? Or even ONE horn? You\'d have to be out of your mind. More mouths in the band to feed for a sound that nobody wants. Sad, really.
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Particle was the victim of Phil & Friends kind of.
DBB does have a double set Turkey Weekend but your point is taken. Will you be attending Rock N Roll Resort ?
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There\'s a bunch of newer bands with horns... my favorites are Groove Shoes and Akashic Record (both Northampton natives I think)
It does seem like they have to split the cash up too many ways but they are playing regular shows at least.
I wouldn\'t say it\'s a sound nobody wants at all. I\'m sure it varies from town to town.
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There\'s a bunch of newer bands with horns... my favorites are Groove Shoes and Akashic Record (both Northampton natives I think)
sister sparrow and the dirty birds, sharon jones and the dap kings to name a few others...
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If any Gypsies see this: Marco Benevento is playing with Claude Coleman and Dave Dreiwitz of WEEN tonight at the Red Door in Portsmouth. I know you guys like to consider yourselves Ween fans.
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There\'s a bunch of newer bands with horns... my favorites are Groove Shoes and Akashic Record (both Northampton natives I think)
sister sparrow and the dirty birds, sharon jones and the dap kings to name a few others...
Love SJ&TDK. Seen them twice. They\'re smart to market themselves to an older crowd that can appreciate their sound. The sit-in with Phish for 10/31/09 makes sense because Phish\'s crowd is also almost entirely people in their late-20\'s to late-40\'s who will appreciate a band with horns. We\'ll never again see bands like DBB, Addison Groove Project, Miracle Orchestra, Ulu (another casualty worth noting), Topaz (yet another) etc. that feature horns and market to a college crowd. Any band that does is doomed to fail IMO. If you\'re going to have horns and you want to play stand-up-and-dance clubs (as opposed to jazz lounges), then you better have some plan to go after the 30-something set because kidz these days want no part of organic music.
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because kidz these days want no part of organic music.
sad story...
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As I look over the list of band casualties that we have compiled here, it really brings out the fact that the B\'Fam is what kept The Breakfast afloat long past these other bands. Think about it: I would bet the house that The Breakfast has more fans over 25 shows, over 50 shows, over 100 shows, over 200 shows, and better show archiving than any of these bands ever had. All of these bands were doing their thing at about the same time and places as PB/TB, and The Breakfast outlasted all of them in large part because of the best fan dedication...
Percy Hill
Miracle Orchestra
God Street Wine
Jiggle the Handle
Addison Groove Project
Mori Stylez
Schleigho
Uncle Sammy
Ulu
Topaz
Deep Banana Blackout
The New Deal
Particle
R.I.P.
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The New Deal still plays and still sucks at music and has more fans than The Breakfast (they easily packed Pearl Street ballroom a few months ago)
Deep Banana Blackout also has more fans (probably).. or at least they manage to get better venues and better festival slots when they do play
But yeah, without Breakfast fans all over the northeast who are willing to drive for hours for just about any Breakfast show possible I\'m sure Breakfast would have taken a "break" years ago
They are also lucky that all these fans will be back in action whenever they decide to start playing shows again.
It\'s really hard to say how many Breakfast fans there really are. How many people were at BreakFEST 2? Obviously those were 100% Breakfast fans.. none of the other bands brought any fans... and a lot of people from CT didn\'t go and other people couldn\'t make it. I think if they started touring the Northeast again and playing a variety of venues we could see the amount of familiar fans double, especially if they released an album and were patient and persistant for a year
I know some people will disagree but at least in my area and NH and possibly CT as well the fanbase has been growing for the last 1-2 years. It just hasn\'t really been obvious because they\'ve had limited shows at almost always 21+ venues
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As I look over the list of band casualties that we have compiled here, it really brings out the fact that the B\'Fam is what kept The Breakfast afloat long past these other bands. Think about it: I would bet the house that The Breakfast has more fans over 25 shows, over 50 shows, over 100 shows, over 200 shows, and better show archiving than any of these bands ever had. All of these bands were doing their thing at about the same time and places as PB/TB, and The Breakfast outlasted all of them in large part because of the best fan dedication...
Percy Hill
Miracle Orchestra
God Street Wine
Jiggle the Handle
Addison Groove Project
Mori Stylez
Schleigho
Uncle Sammy
Ulu
Topaz
Deep Banana Blackout
The New Deal
Particle
R.I.P.
RAQ
Seth Yacovone
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All these bands mentioned failed to keep up a heavy touring schedule outside of the NE region thus the failure. The Breakfast suffered the exact same fate once they also retired from National touring but no one here realizes it because you all still had shows close to home.
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All these bands mentioned failed to keep up a heavy touring schedule outside of the NE region thus the failure. The Breakfast suffered the exact same fate once they also retired from National touring but no one here realizes it because you all still had shows close to home.
yes, but they lost money every time they toured nationally, so it wasn\'t a viable option.
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All these bands mentioned failed to keep up a heavy touring schedule outside of the NE region thus the failure. The Breakfast suffered the exact same fate once they also retired from National touring but no one here realizes it because you all still had shows close to home.
yes, but they lost money every time they toured nationally, so it wasn\'t a viable option.
How is it not a viable option? Tea Leaf Green a band that has been around just as long but never stopped touring is just as broke but more dedicated to their lives as a band. They are determined to make it and see it as their only option. They lost a member and kept touring. When Scotty broke his ankle they persevered kept touring and the guy they got to supplement the drumming while Scotty healed BEHIND his kit was luckily an awesome addition and they were willing to see that and decide to ask him aboard even though it meant another division in any paycheck. They all have side projects and tour those projects. They spread their visibility by playing with other bands or members of popular bands in certain regions ie. The Breakfast, PGroove etc. They only play music and don\'t bother with day jobs even if it meant easing their financial burdens.
This dedication is what keeps them afloat and their fanbase happy since they know they can count on the band to continue touring and make the fan reciprocation worth it.
It\'s a lesson all those bands and The Breakfast can learn from.
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All these bands mentioned failed to keep up a heavy touring schedule outside of the NE region thus the failure. The Breakfast suffered the exact same fate once they also retired from National touring but no one here realizes it because you all still had shows close to home.
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I wouldn\'t exactly recommend The Breakfast start playing shows in parts of the country they are guaranteed a serious doozie.
When they could play Red Square, Higher Ground / Nectar\'s, Middle East, Tammany, Toads, Electric Company more often.
Most of those venues it\'s been quite a while since Breakfast played there but they\'d be guaranteed a good crowd. So why bother playing Duluth, South Dakota and Boise, Idaho when it\'s gonna cost and arm and a leg to gain maybe 5 new fans who are going to quickly forget about the band anyway?
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Lol yeah ok.
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All these bands mentioned failed to keep up a heavy touring schedule outside of the NE region thus the failure. The Breakfast suffered the exact same fate once they also retired from National touring but no one here realizes it because you all still had shows close to home.
yes, but they lost money every time they toured nationally, so it wasn\'t a viable option.
How is it not a viable option? Tea Leaf Green a band that has been around just as long but never stopped touring is just as broke but more dedicated to their lives as a band. They are determined to make it and see it as their only option. They lost a member and kept touring. When Scotty broke his ankle they persevered kept touring and the guy they got to supplement the drumming while Scotty healed BEHIND his kit was luckily an awesome addition and they were willing to see that and decide to ask him aboard even though it meant another division in any paycheck. They all have side projects and tour those projects. They spread their visibility by playing with other bands or members of popular bands in certain regions ie. The Breakfast, PGroove etc. They only play music and don\'t bother with day jobs even if it meant easing their financial burdens.
This dedication is what keeps them afloat and their fanbase happy since they know they can count on the band to continue touring and make the fan reciprocation worth it.
It\'s a lesson all those bands and The Breakfast can learn from.
Not a knock on TLG but all they are doing is setting themselves up to be broke. I applaud them for doing something they love but it is not a recipe for success in the music business IMHO. How many bands who have been plugging away for years strike fire and "make it big" ?
Being in a band is a lot different than being a professional musician. You can make a living as a professional musician, it is very difficult to make a living as a band.
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Well since they\'re already broke how bad can it get is their thought. The point is they are still dedicated to playing and touring. Thus they gained the interest of RLM and have great things ahead of them potentially. They continue to cultivate a bigger fanbase by touring the nation and besides they like playing their music for as many people as they can bring it too no matter what. It\'s pure dedication a fan like me can appreciate AND support.
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ive been pretty absent from the live music jam band scene (minus phish) for the past year, due to trying to wrap up my thesis work, no money, no time, etc. However...some bands that have really impressed me in the past couple years, and some bands i tihnk are still going strong and would go out and see are as follows:
Otis Grove (really really good, most impressed out of all)
Kung Fu (obviously)
Lettice
Soulive
Disco Biscuits
Umphrey\'s
Consider the Source (really like them)
As many of you guys have said here, lots of other bands have bit the dust in the past couple years. I really think Phish coming back had a lot to do with it. I\'m a perfect example...now that phish is touring, I\'d rather save my money and go see them 5x a year rather than seeing lots of 2nd/3rd tier jam bands 20x per year. Hey, I LOVE the breakfast, but lets do the math...I saw them 14 times in 2008; phish comes back in march 2009, I think I saw TB about 8 times that year, 2010 maybe 4, 2011 0 (ouch)!
Also, i think the music festivals are getting stale. There are wayyy to many of them now, and I just dont have the energy or money anymore to run myself into the ground for 3 days at a place like camp creek, for example.
The Breakfast gave me some of if not the most memorable times of my life, but its a new day now. We\'re getting older, and a lot of the bands we love aren\'t playing anymore.
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I agree that the jam sceene is dying quickly if not dead. I hate to say that it rose and fell with the fall and rise of phish, but that is the undeniable truth, IMO. That leaves the general pych sceene, which I don\'t really think ever fully embraced the jam sceene. I don\'t really like most jam/pysch fusion bands (bisco is fine, and i\'ll go if friends are, but never just to go), I pretty much only liked the breakfast and phish.
phish had music and sceene to support it, and when the sceene became more than the music, you could tell, and it kind of felt forced (03/04), recently, the music has been better and the sceene has died down so it\'s enjoyable again.
the breakfast, for me, was always all about the intimacy of the show. yes, they are amazing musicans and the music they make is face melting, but i\'m sure there are other bands that are similar if that is what i was into. would i want to see the breakfast play at great woods or msg? hell yes! would i rather them play at the middle east, stone church or iron horse, well, probably...
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would i want to see the breakfast play at great woods or msg? hell yes! would i rather them play at the middle east, stone church or iron horse, well, probably...
totally agree... what\'s good for the fans might not be the best for the band in this case, but Breakfast shows have always been a really nice intimate musical experience. Obviously this is a big part of why many of their fans are die-hard and many of us know each other as well as members of the band.
Even with bands that aren\'t nearly as big as Phish but still bigger than Breakfast... like Umphreys, it\'s impossible to speak to the band and it\'s inevitable that you\'re mostly surrounded by like 1000 strangers.