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Kung Fu => Kung Fu Chatter => Topic started by: Stephengencs on August 22, 2011, 09:28:34 am
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- For 3 of the 5 members of the band, Kung Fu is their main project.
- Kung Fu has more dates booked than The Breakfast
- Kung Fu has dates booked outside of New England
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When will The Breakfast play a show that I can attend????.....Whineberg.
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When they stop piggybacking this website and get their own forum. Seriously though I don\'t see it as a side project anymore more the other band Tim and Adrian play in.
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the breakfast>kung fu
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I\'m just waiting to go on Dangle tour.
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when The Breakfast stops being the most ser band on the planet
I don\'t see The Breakfast taking a hiatus any time soon... probably just fewer shows as we\'ve been getting used to anyway cuz they gotta make that Kung Fu chedda and ride the wave as long as its hot. There\'s way too much love for Breakfast and I don\'t see these four insanely gifted musicians just walking away from what they\'ve created, which happens to be one of the most phenominal (yet underexposed) bands of all time.
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I voted for "I dont consider them a side project," but can I still tell you to shut the fuck up, Gencs?! I mean, it would be a super fun time. ;)
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when The Breakfast stops being the most ser band on the planet
that too.
but honestly i don\'t even think anyone considers Kung Fu a side project at this point. In my perfect world, it would be alongside Beatles A to Z and the Good Time Boys, but this isn\'t my world. Kung Fu clearly has taken the reigns as #1 priority of Tim and Adrian, and as being the only lifetime Breakfast members, that pretty much means that it is not a sideproject at all.
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yup.
I can\'t honestly call it a side-project. They have an album, they tour, etc.
And I have seen some pretty good Kung Fu shows.
But my opinion, that The Breakfast has for some time now and especially in the last few years with Dangle on board and Sequoia back in the mix = the most incredible band probably possible.
So, in a realistic sense, Kung Fu is of course not a side project.
But they will probably always feel like a side project to me. One that I hope does not derail The Breakfast (ala RAQ) because then I\'d be really pissed / lose faith in humanity / start selling my body on the street and things along those lines.
I\'m just waiting to go on Dangle tour.
This too.
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
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From my What if Kung Fu catches Fire thread.
Anyway I suspect after this summer Kung Fu will have established itself as the band with clearly more interest and draw. Breakfast will be hired to do a residency at Stella Blues as a Dead cover band.
Well not for their Dead covers but nice call bro!
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
You give Dangle too little credit. He\'s a grown man if he wants to explore something else he will. As a matter of fact dude constantly works on other music. It\'s not like he\'s sitting around waiting for Tim and Adrian.
I don\'t know how many times I have to put this out there but The Breakfast is going no where. No matter what as long as Tim and Adrian are playing instruments Breakfast songs will be played. They have no choice that music is as much a part of them as the blood that runs in their veins. Why do you think they bother writing new songs for TheBreakfast? Hmmmm?
As as someone not as invested any more I am glad to see them getting out there even if it\'s not The Breakfast. Tim and Adrian Deserve to be heard and the 2 do have cache in the "scene" when they play out because of how awesome they are. No one they used to play with has forgotten them. Every time I bring them up with bands I see it\'s always "Yeah where are those guys? they kill."
So if it takes Kung Fu being the focus for a couple years fine with me. It\'s not like The Breakfast is getting calls to fill dates so I\'m cool with it.
Oh and what about Jordan there Gencs? Huh? Huh?
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Oh and what about Jordan there Gencs? Huh? Huh?
I was waiting for that to come up.....The Branch is music and will always play....My point is, that if you in a business and arent making money, you have to fix the problem....you can only hang on and hope things will change for so long before the losing becomes too much.....at what point does hanging on to this dream become a detriment for everyone involved? (except for the 200 selfish fans - myself included)....
and as for giving Dangle too little credit...remember his nickname....Love you Doozer!
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
Well if you wanna get all saucy about it Stevie, I\'ll pick up the bottle too..
200 hard core fans, more or less. Fair enough. But in any music scene I\'ve traveled upon, Breakfast fans are hands down the coolest group of people around. Is it worth it for a band to play to 200 radical-ass motherfuckers such as ourselves with impeccible taste in music, who\'ve got love for life and come together for the love of all things excellent in this moment?
I would call that a blessing. To know that if the band played at a lot of venues around the Northeast, there\'s Bfam always there and people are loving it.
What\'s with this mentality, like, we need to take over the USA or the globe or sell a million albums or whateverthefuck. I mean, what do you really need in life? You need love. You need to have fun. You need to pay the bills. And you need to feel good about your chosen path.
200 hard core fans and growing. Viva la Breakfast!
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I\'m all for Kung Fu having the best of luck and a lot of our fanbase has made the move accordingly, but call us selfish or what you wanna call it, so long as there is 1 Breakfast show on the calendar ahead, then that will always be my favorite band to see in any capacity. This board does not exist sans the Breakfast, these 200 or so friends we have do not happen w/o the Breakfast and the 10+ years of memories at Breakfast shows will always be a part of me. So more power to Kung Fu, they\'re clearly not a sideproject, but as long as I see 1 single Breakfast show upcoming, I\'m proud to be a Breakfast fan first and foremost. Does playing a couple gigs every few months put them in dire straits esp when those shows are no further than NH to the north, Utica to the West and PA to the South? I really doubt it. You could argue that Timmy Tour is Tim\'s main gig since he probably plays more TT shows in a year than Kung Fu, Breakfast or A to Z, and granted, neither of those alone are making him rich, but on the brightside its given him a means to survive doing what he does best, and I\'ll support him(and the rest of the band) in anything they do forward.
But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
secondly, where\'s the evidence to back these numbers up? did the breakfast lose money playing The Big Up or Breakfest or what have you? I\'m sure they lost money touring like they did back in 2004-2007, but how exactly can they lose money playing once every couple months to(besides that one toad\'s show) relatively solid crowds.
thirdly, who gives a fuck what kinda legacy the band leaves to a bunch of people who were never there to experience it? if you\'re too busy putting labels on what became or what could\'ve been to just stand in front of the stage and bask in the greatness that being a psychedelic breakfast/ the breakfast fan is all about, then i question your motive mr. gencarelli. when did we ever give a rats ass what anyone outside of our closeknit group ever thought of us?
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Igz, I completely 100% agree with you.....
and I am proud to be a fan of the most unsuccessful nostalgia acts in the history of music......and the conundrum there, is that how can you be a nostalgia act if you aren\'t successful?
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I really don\'t think they\'re a nostalgia act quite yet. shit just look at the songs they\'ve written in the past couple years, they can still slay w/ the best of them. Max Creek is an unsuccessful nostalgia band. Breakfast is just an under the radar blip that didn\'t happen to 99.99% of music fans, but was the best time of our lives to the .01% of us. So long as Timmy is pumping out jams like Silver Bullet, then we\'re not quite a nostalgia act yet.
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
secondly, where\'s the evidence to back these numbers up? did the breakfast lose money playing The Big Up or Breakfest or what have you? I\'m sure they lost money touring like they did back in 2004-2007, but how exactly can they lose money playing once every couple months to(besides that one toad\'s show) relatively solid crowds.
thirdly, who gives a fuck what kinda legacy the band leaves to a bunch of people who were never there to experience it? if you\'re too busy putting labels on what became or what could\'ve been to just stand in front of the stage and bask in the greatness that being a psychedelic breakfast/ the breakfast fan is all about, then i question your motive mr. gencarelli. when did we ever give a rats ass what anyone outside of our closeknit group ever thought of us?
NUMBERS???? are you ser? here is all the numbers you need.....13 years as a band.....not drawing over 500 (consistently ever) people anywhere with the exception of some festivals.........
all bandmembers are over 30 and NEED to make more than 50 to 200 a show in order to sustain living....Why play a breakfast show for a hundge or two or when you could take a gig making twice thrice or quadruple that????well we know why they do it.......and thats why we love them....but how long must they have to endure.....just for our selfishness? again, I am just playing devils advocate here and throwing shit up there.......i love the breakfast...i love this "family".......
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
secondly, where\'s the evidence to back these numbers up? did the breakfast lose money playing The Big Up or Breakfest or what have you? I\'m sure they lost money touring like they did back in 2004-2007, but how exactly can they lose money playing once every couple months to(besides that one toad\'s show) relatively solid crowds.
thirdly, who gives a fuck what kinda legacy the band leaves to a bunch of people who were never there to experience it? if you\'re too busy putting labels on what became or what could\'ve been to just stand in front of the stage and bask in the greatness that being a psychedelic breakfast/ the breakfast fan is all about, then i question your motive mr. gencarelli. when did we ever give a rats ass what anyone outside of our closeknit group ever thought of us?
NUMBERS???? are you ser? here is all the numbers you need.....13 years as a band.....not drawing over 500 (consistently ever) people anywhere with the exception of some festivals.........
all bandmembers are over 30 and NEED to make more than 50 to 200 a show in order to sustain living....Why play a breakfast show for a hundge or two or when you could take a gig making twice thrice or quadruple that????well we know why they do it.......and thats why we love them....but how long must they have to endure.....just for our selfishness? again, I am just playing devils advocate here and throwing shit up there.......i love the breakfast...i love this "family".......
I never paid attention to the business end of things, and yes they have lost lots of money in the past, but Tim plays on par 6 nights a week and I doubt he\'s getting more money playing Anna Liffey\'s on a Tuesday than the Breakfast at the Big Up on a Friday. I can\'t speak for the band, but does playing a show here and there on a free night detract from their ability to earn money with Kung Fu? If Kung Fu sets off on their first real tour and end up making as little as the Breakfast did doing similar tours 5 years ago, does that make them a bad business decision as well? I just don\'t see how "our selfishness" is fucking up their ability to earn money if they continue to book residencies with the Breakfast. We\'re not the ones who booked them on 2 residencies this year. They did. Clearly they want to play as the Breakfast too or else they\'d drop it alltogether.
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I never paid attention to the business end of things, and yes they have lost lots of money in the past, but Tim plays on par 6 nights a week and I doubt he\'s getting more money playing Anna Liffey\'s on a Tuesday than the Breakfast at the Big Up on a Friday. I can\'t speak for the band, but does playing a show here and there on a free night detract from their ability to earn money with Kung Fu? If Kung Fu sets off on their first real tour and end up making as little as the Breakfast did doing similar tours 5 years ago, does that make them a bad business decision as well? I just don\'t see how "our selfishness" is fucking up their ability to earn money if they continue to book residencies with the Breakfast. We\'re not the ones who booked them on 2 residencies this year. They did. Clearly they want to play as the Breakfast too or else they\'d drop it alltogether.
First off, I believe, if Tim put all of his "artistic" time into Kung Fu, the need for him to play the same circuit of new haven bars, with the same songs hes been playing for almost a decade (and the first 3-5 years of timmy tour was its creative peak. The rest is fluff cash in my opinion. Period...) Secondly, one of the defining characteristics of TPalms is the fact that he is so connected and bonded to his fans...so much that he practacally had to get a restraining order in me in 04/05......he wont abandon us......but i think we owe it to him, to say, hey tim......we can take a break from the breakfast and in return you can focus on your main group and give ALL your creative efforts to the project that 4 others of your respected peers and fellow artists have decided to devote their current LIVELYHOODS to.....again...this is me just spiffballing...starting trouble....but i think there is a point in all my bullshit.....and thats why im here fleshing it out with the bfam brethren...
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Basically what your saying is we should all set him free? Like the Sting song?
Give him 100% of his time towards Kung Fu for whatever "artistic" needs he has. The way I see it, Tim owes us nothing, he just likes to play music. And if Kung Fu plays 3 or 4 nights a week at most, I guarantee he\'ll find a way to play out those other 3 or 2 nights a week. Are the other members of KF complaining about Tim\'s tendencies to play every night possible? Do they know this man is not human? Doesn\'t Adrian still give lessons to kids during the days? Does that negatively affect his "creative" time with Kung Fu as well?
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The Breakfast are still playing Breakfast shows because they want to. Over the past 10 years or so there were a few times when I wasn\'t sure if they were really into it. I don\'t believe that\'s the case anymore.
For real, there\'s no way anybody in the band was thinking "Fuck, god damn it, if it weren\'t for these 400 gypsies we could be doing something else besides playing our own festival"
Or "For the love of God, if only this crowd of 500-600 people raging at the Big Up weren\'t totally rocking out to our music right now, we could just stop playing in this terrible band, this is no fun at all"
I don\'t get all this about setting anyone free.
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Gencs, is this thread spawned from discussions within the inner circle or simply from your own thoughts?
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Before you see my vote, I want to say..........Sorry Steve, I just couldn\'t resist.
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Sorry, but TB has gone the way of Max Creek... TB is the driving force... I saw this coming a long time ago sitting in Josh\'s driveway before an Uncle Sam Jam... TB is one of my favorite bands, but if these guys want to make a living past scraping from one gig to the next, they need to move on to what\'s going to get them there... And for Tim and Adrian, it\'s Kung Fu...
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Gencs, is this thread spawned from discussions within the inner circle or simply from your own thoughts?
First off, I would never break a trust like that.....
Secondly, I\'ve been so far out of the loop for the past 2 years, I have no idea how to get to the inner circle....
Sorry, but TB has gone the way of Max Creek... TB is the driving force... I saw this coming a long time ago sitting in Josh\'s driveway before an Uncle Sam Jam... TB is one of my favorite bands, but if these guys want to make a living past scraping from one gig to the next, they need to move on to what\'s going to get them there... And for Tim and Adrian, it\'s Kung Fu...
It hurts to say this, but Yoda,I agree with you. and honestly, it hurts to say this even more but, Max Creek still has more drawing power than The Breakfast......
The Breakfast are still playing Breakfast shows because they want to. Over the past 10 years or so there were a few times when I wasn\'t sure if they were really into it. I don\'t believe that\'s the case anymore.
For real, there\'s no way anybody in the band was thinking "Fuck, god damn it, if it weren\'t for these 400 gypsies we could be doing something else besides playing our own festival"
Or "For the love of God, if only this crowd of 500-600 people raging at the Big Up weren\'t totally rocking out to our music right now, we could just stop playing in this terrible band, this is no fun at all"
I don\'t get all this about setting anyone free.
Lets call a spade a spade here....and I give Bonsall so much credit for doing what he\'s done with Breakfest, but a keg party in the woods is not a festival....Will it ever grow into an actual festival, I believe Andrew has the vision and now with a couple years behind him, potentially the ability to make it a real festival....first thing would be getting it at an acutual festival friendly site. Its hard to sell tickets to a venue that has no real automobile access.....
Nobody is arguing that the breakfast doesnt fuck shit up every single time they step on stage......but there is a reason there are a ton of dicks drawn on the walls of the green room in the webster theater. "if you cant draw a crowd, draw a dick" and can we please face the fact that attendence is the real issue with the success of the band? There is just not enough people with interest in the breakfast to sustain a realistic shot at making a realistic living out of it. Please do not read this as a shot at the band or its fans. It is a business, and if it isnt making money, whats the point?
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When they get their own message board.
It all depends on where the conversation is happening. As long as we\'re talking Kung Fu on thebreakfast.info, Kung Fu is a side project. If we\'re talking about the bands in person, then I consider them separate bands. If we\'re talking about The Breakfast on kungfu.info, then The Breakfast would be a side project I suppose.
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Wow. well
Kung Fu is a different band that some members of the breakfast play in. Nothing more nothing less.
Correct me if I\'m wrong but didn\'t the breakfast play a festival a few weeks back ? I assume they got paid for that no ?
This is kind of silly to debate. I would imagine that playing breakfast songs and doing a show is interesting and entertaining to the guys in the band. I don\'t see why they would do it otherwise. There is a fucking residency in New Haven next month for crying out loud. If the band decides it isn\'t economically feasible for them to play shows etc well that is life but seeing as there are shows on the horizon, and Kung Fu shows, and Tim solo shows etc etc I don\'t think money has a lot to do with it. I saw Tim play a small bar 2 weeks ago for about 11/2 hours or so. He had come from playing a party with Ron. The guys want to work and I don\'t think they are all that picky about what and where they play as long as it is interesting and worth their time.
Think about Lettuce or bands like that. All of those guys have their own projects, but they get together and throw down from time to time. Deep Banana Blackout would be another band along these lines. Would Deep Banana be considered Rob\'s side project or Kung Fu ?
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This is kind of silly to debate.
all the bullshit ive seen and written on this board and THIS is a silly debate?
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Psychedelic Breakfast peak\'d about 1 show before SteveGencs starting working for them, and he is all derriere-hurt.
Get out of here, yoko!!
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Lets call a spade a spade here....and I give Bonsall so much credit for doing what he\'s done with Breakfest, but a keg party in the woods is not a festival....Will it ever grow into an actual festival, I believe Andrew has the vision and now with a couple years behind him, potentially the ability to make it a real festival....first thing would be getting it at an acutual festival friendly site. Its hard to sell tickets to a venue that has no real automobile access....
Wrong. It was definitely an "actual festival". There\'s no way you can be giving Bonsall credit and say otherwise. It was pretty kick-ass. Definitely the high point of my summer. You should have been there, brother. Hope to see you up there next year. Hopefully there will be way more people and look a lot more like whatever you would consider "real". Bonsall has some ser plans for this festival in the future.
FWIW, I\'ve been to a lot of fests (including Coventry) that were harder to drive into than Breakfest.
Too late to change my vote to shup up, Gencs? ;)
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This is kind of silly to debate.
all the bullshit ive seen and written on this board and THIS is a silly debate?
Well it is kind of like if you opened another store.
Would we be saying that the old store is just a side project, that you spend all your time in the new store, and since you seem to always spend your time at the new store the old store is just nostalgia ? The old store doesn\'t make you as much money as the new store so......
These are all projects (kung fu, breakfast, a-z, good time boys, solo etc etc) some are better money makers than others, some are more fun than others it is what it is.
Just like you would be able to focus on multiple stores in this example, the guys in the breakfast are able to juggle multiple projects and devout the attention necessary to make ends meet.
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I have spoken with Bonsall about the future of Breakfest and I am excited for him.........
Here\'s a good hypothetical situation for you......what if Kung Fu had a tour or offer to do some shows that would provide them with the best exposure they have ever had to date, yet if they accepted it, it would mean that there could be no fonghoulish freakout? There would be a lot of whining and crying out here in .infoland.....I am sure of that.....
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so what brah? people wanna hear the music they like. if people like the breakfast let em whine n cry all they want. my .02
just sayin\'
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Here\'s a good hypothetical situation for you......what if Kung Fu had a tour or offer to do some shows that would provide them with the best exposure they have ever had to date, yet if they accepted it, it would mean that there could be no fonghoulish freakout? There would be a lot of whining and crying out here in .infoland.....I am sure of that.....
I think this has already reared its head with the 10/29 Fu gig at Mill St. on the horizon, not that a Freakout couldn\'t happen on the Friday night, the weekend before or the weekend after... but I would guess that there is already some speculation that this might be the case?
And I agree with you Gencs, there would be (I\'ll call them) opinions if it didn\'t occur.
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I have spoken with Bonsall about the future of Breakfest and I am excited for him.........
Here\'s a good hypothetical situation for you......what if Kung Fu had a tour or offer to do some shows that would provide them with the best exposure they have ever had to date, yet if they accepted it, it would mean that there could be no fonghoulish freakout? There would be a lot of whining and crying out here in .infoland.....I am sure of that.....
Of course I\'d bitch about it but it\'s not the end of the world. No Breakfast for NYE last year was worse than that.
Also, I\'m not sure if Kung Fu really has so much "mass appeal" anyway. Will there really be more Kung Fu fans than Breakfast fans? I\'m not talking about Facebook "likes", I mean like fans who will actually tour and keep seeing the band.
IMO it would be smart to keep The Breakfast alive and well in case Kung Fu doesn\'t exactly shoot to the moon. So far they\'re still playing the same venues The Breakfast would play. A small tour out west. Some nice festival gigs thanks to Kroop and their mutual connections. Similar or sometimes smaller crowds than The Breakfast gets in venues around the northeast.
If you want to call a spade, a spade?
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I have spoken with Bonsall about the future of Breakfest and I am excited for him.........
Here\'s a good hypothetical situation for you......what if Kung Fu had a tour or offer to do some shows that would provide them with the best exposure they have ever had to date, yet if they accepted it, it would mean that there could be no fonghoulish freakout? There would be a lot of whining and crying out here in .infoland.....I am sure of that.....
Of course I\'d bitch about it but it\'s not the end of the world. No Breakfast for NYE last year was worse than that.
Also, I\'m not sure if Kung Fu really has so much "mass appeal" anyway. Will there really be more Kung Fu fans than Breakfast fans? I\'m not talking about Facebook "likes", I mean like fans who will actually tour and keep seeing the band.
IMO it would be smart to keep The Breakfast alive and well in case Kung Fu doesn\'t exactly shoot to the moon. So far they\'re still playing the same venues The Breakfast would play. A small tour out west. Some nice festival gigs thanks to Kroop and their mutual connections. Similar or sometimes smaller crowds than The Breakfast gets in venues around the northeast.
If you want to call a spade, a spade?
Not sure if this is a spade or a club or just a bizzle, but there were as many people (if not more) for Kung Fu boat in Boston the day before the last Toads show...it was also rainy and miserable that night on the boat.......and the breakfast are playing a monday night residency in their 13th year in their home town at the same venue that kung fu was born a little over a year ago.....what direction are we moving in? AND BELIEVE ME, I AM FUCKING ECSTATIC THAT THERE ARE 4 BREAKFAST SHOWS IN THE BACKYARD NEXT MONTH....spade, club, bizzle....you make the call
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I don\'t see Kung Fu as a side project at all. Maybe when they were first formed they could have been considered that, but now that they play more and bigger shows than the Breakfast it\'s impossible to not consider them a legit band.
But it\'s not something that really upsets me. Yes, of course every time there\'s a new show put up here I hope it\'s the Breakfast but more times than not it\'s Kung Fu. I do love the Fu, I just love the Breakfast more. The way I look at it, it\'s normal for band members to have a lot of other projects/bands they\'re involved in. Someone brought up Soulive on here and they are a prime example. Also, look at Marco Benevento. These people are all in 3 or more different acts.
So while I wish that the Breakfast were out playing more, I am happy for the guys that Kung Fu is doing well.
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I have spoken with Bonsall about the future of Breakfest and I am excited for him.........
Here\'s a good hypothetical situation for you......what if Kung Fu had a tour or offer to do some shows that would provide them with the best exposure they have ever had to date, yet if they accepted it, it would mean that there could be no fonghoulish freakout? There would be a lot of whining and crying out here in .infoland.....I am sure of that.....
Of course I\'d bitch about it but it\'s not the end of the world. No Breakfast for NYE last year was worse than that.
Also, I\'m not sure if Kung Fu really has so much "mass appeal" anyway. Will there really be more Kung Fu fans than Breakfast fans? I\'m not talking about Facebook "likes", I mean like fans who will actually tour and keep seeing the band.
IMO it would be smart to keep The Breakfast alive and well in case Kung Fu doesn\'t exactly shoot to the moon. So far they\'re still playing the same venues The Breakfast would play. A small tour out west. Some nice festival gigs thanks to Kroop and their mutual connections. Similar or sometimes smaller crowds than The Breakfast gets in venues around the northeast.
If you want to call a spade, a spade?
Not sure if this is a spade or a club or just a bizzle, but there were as many people (if not more) for Kung Fu boat in Boston the day before the last Toads show...it was also rainy and miserable that night on the boat.......and the breakfast are playing a monday night residency in their 13th year in their home town at the same venue that kung fu was born a little over a year ago.....what direction are we moving in? AND BELIEVE ME, I AM FUCKING ECSTATIC THAT THERE ARE 4 BREAKFAST SHOWS IN THE BACKYARD NEXT MONTH....spade, club, bizzle....you make the call
Are they really that much more popular or is it simple mathematics ?
The biggest thing Kung Fu has going for it is the fact that they can draw on atleast 4 well established fan bases. Deep Banana Blackout, raq, scofield/jazz is dead and the breakfast. Lets not kid ourselves, Rob Somerville has been a fixture in the area for a LONG time. Add Kroop in the mix and there is a solid team with great connections. The Breakfast NEVER had that ever. Kung Fu is a well oiled machine at an early point in their existence because everyone in that band has been through it before. Lets just hope that Kung Fu spurs some interest in the Breakfast or any other projects the guys want to do.
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This is not a silly debate for this board at all. I like the Rob and Deep Banana analogy. What do you say to that???
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do deep banana even play more than 2 shows a year? (vibes and turkey day)
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So, is DBB the side project? Maybe they\'re all side projects.
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This is not a silly debate for this board at all.
I agree. We\'ve had waaaaaay more ridiculous debates on here.
To be honest, as long as all parties involved (members of the breakfast and kung fu) are happy, who really cares what we label them as? I am just glad there is good live music in the new haven area to attend when I get inclined to.
And I appreciate what members of both bands bring to the table.
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Wasn\'t the boat cruise a Dopapod / Kung Fu boat cruise?
Dopapod is at least as popular as Kung Fu. In fact they are the headliners at Mill Street gig and the main reason why I\'m probably going to go.
Just sayin\'.. I bet it was a lot of Dopapod fans... Having Tim / Rob / Stoops in the band makes for some initial interest I\'m sure but it might take a while for Kung Fu to grow a real (hardcore) fanbase like The Breakfast has.
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Wasn\'t the boat cruise a Dopapod / Kung Fu boat cruise?
Dopapod is at least as popular as Kung Fu. In fact they are the headliners at Mill Street gig and the main reason why I\'m probably going to go.
Just sayin\'.. I bet it was a lot of Dopapod fans... Having Tim / Rob / Stoops in the band makes for some initial interest I\'m sure but it might take a while for Kung Fu to grow a real (hardcore) fanbase like The Breakfast has.
i was just coming to say this exact thing. ive been seeing dopapod\'s name all over the place. like everywhere. and im pretty sure they do really well up in beantown and such, no?
i dont view Fu as a side project. just as another band with tim and adrian as a part of it
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kung fu = the breakfast*
* - inverted
(or maybe dyslexic)
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Isn\'t The Breakfast a Mokijam side project?
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I was watching The Greatest Movie Ever Sold by Morgan Spurlock and he had Michael Levine of Levine Communications(a Huge Hollywood PR Firm) on and he said in the context of celebrity and credibility in today\'s day and age if your not visible your not credible.
I see this as being applicable to bands these days also. It\'s why I was always dead set against the band becoming regional as I felt it was a death blow to them making a living as The Breakfast.
With Kung Fu getting more gigs out of the smallish circle they play now Tim and Adrian again become visible on the scene and thus more credible. Getting West with Kung Fu is very important and I\'m stoked their doing so.
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Isn\'t The Breakfast a Mokijam side project?
HA! I believe you are right...
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Mokijam > Psychedelic Breakfast > Diesel Experiment > The Breakfast > Beatles A-Z / Good Time Boys > Kung Fu....
The only constant is Tim Palmieri and Adrian Tramantono...
The only parts out of that group that weren\'t side projects were PB/TB from about 1999-2008, when they stopped playing gigs around the country and sectioned themselves off to a radius of ME to about PA and Kung Fu from 2010 to present...
You can come at me with arguments that I haven\'t been around and they are valid. But even Gencs will admit that 99-01, I was as immersed in the "PB world" as can be... I spent a ton of money on costumes for UMass concerts and spent countless hours with the band and Paul Ryan on the NGNL video. These guys were my life for those years...
But if you allow yourself to take a step back and take The Breakfast Sunglasses off, you\'ll see that priorities have shifted to what is going to propel Tim and Adrian (the constants)...
I may not like KF as much as TB, but at least it\'s new music coming out of the duo...
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I\'m as much a fan of Dangle and Jordan as Tim and Adrian.
"constant" or not TB is in prime form right now
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I\'m as much a fan of Dangle and Jordan as Tim and Adrian.
"constant" or not TB is in prime form right now
Amen brother. Those guys are the shiznitobamm!
A lot of good things have been said in this thread so far. I don\'t really see the Fu as a side project. I think I did at first, but after some time has passed I see them as roots of the same tree. I have to echo some earlier sentiments that I just want all of these guys to be happy. I would be as crushed as anyone here if tB stopped gigging altogether, but even one show a year would be better than any other band out there that plays 5 nights a week or every weekend or whatever. I want nothing but the best for all of these guys. They will do whats right.
I wish there was more Breakfast talk and new threads but I will take what I can get.
Damn I am jonesing for a show bad!
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Mokijam > Psychedelic Breakfast > Diesel Experiment > The Breakfast > Beatles A-Z / Good Time Boys > Kung Fu....
Isn\'t there even a step further back where Mokijam was originally named Magic?
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i thought that there were shows on xmas that were covers by a band labeled as the good time boys....long before the chillis thing. am i wrong?
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i kick myself for never making a GTB show. while i have a few dvd\'s., never made a show.
remember, there was also Drums and Guitar. adrian and timmy. loved the epic Walsh bday party at Hotel TKA
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there was also.....Drums and Guitar :)
fuckin double posts. this site is being weird lately in Safari. grrr!
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Miss the GTB... definitely some strange but fun times at Corner Pocket!
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i thought that there were shows on xmas that were covers by a band labeled as the good time boys....long before the chillis thing. am i wrong?
Santa\'s Little Helpers
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Miss the GTB... definitely some strange but fun times at Corner Pocket!
Me tooooooooo
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Never thought Kung Fu was a side project. They are a main dish, or lunch, dinner and dessert.
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But does the love of 200 hard core fans make it worth continuing to play shows where they are constantly losing money, detracting from Tim and Adrian\'s commitment to Kung Fu and Chris DeAngelis from growing with and/or discovering a project that he wants to pursue?????? All things must past folks.....do we really want the Breakfast to be known as the most unsuccessful nostalgia act in music history? cause thats where they are headed......
NOSTALGIA ACT?!?!?!?!??! :shock1:
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Never thought Kung Fu was a side project. They are a main dish, or lunch, dinner and dessert.
so....did you vote a?.....or d?