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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2009 => Topic started by: galenas on November 14, 2009, 12:23:48 pm
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Set I: jam > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > Synergy > Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) > Synergy, Cut Me Some Slack, Existential Funk
Set II: Gladys Pimp and Kangaroos With Me* > Score, Rufus > Wake Up in a Coma > Gladys Pimp and Kangaroos With Me*, Episode 3 (Awakening).
E: Rockin In The Free World**
* inverted.
** Dangle on guitar, Adrian on keys, Jordan on bass, Tim on drums.
Thanks to NickNels and sąikidélik for the set list!
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kill me now, please.
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What the fuck is this Dyslexic shit?
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What the fuck is this Dyslexic shit?
It\'s only the fucking stupidest nomenclature made up by bisco fans so they can think their band is special.
It\'s just an inverted sandwich.
End of the song played into other songs and back to the rest of the song.
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i think dyslexic is a perfect description of what\'s going on... better than "inverted sandwich"!
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i think dyslexic is a perfect description of what\'s going on... better than "inverted sandwich"!
Inverted and sandwich have been used for years here before these idiots and their untzy lexicon came aboard.
This is thebreakfast.info not bisco central something many people have forgotten it seems.
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dude what the fuck is that ? !! ?
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:lol: bisco fans love their music -- and we could certainly use as much of that around here as possible!
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i knew the dyslexic convo would come back after reading that
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:lol: bisco fans love their music -- and we could certainly use as much of that around here as possible!
That\'s a bunch of shit right there.
Breakfast fans don\'t love music?
Bfast fans don\'t need a special lexicon to "get" the music except for the meaning of Ser because let\'s face it Ser is as Ser does and the Breakfast is as Ser as it gets.
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back to the matter at hand, that second set was pure joy for me. some of the best breakfast i\'ve ever witnessed.
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I love how leith and Yoda get pissed off and tell people they are wrong just because they have not been following the band as long as them or for making up words that they haven\'t heard at shows they haven\'t been to. Ser? go to a f\'n show and quit ur bitchn. Your just angry you missed another heady setlist. and the jam was certainly dyslexic. Inverted sandwiches is the term you old guys use. lol.
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I love how leith and Yoda get pissed off and tell people they are not fans just because they have not been following the band as long as them or for making up words that they haven\'t heard at shows they haven\'t been to. Ser? go to a f\'n show and quit ur bitchn. Your just angry you missed another heady setlist. and the jam was certainly dyslexic. Inverted sandwiches is the term you old guys use. lol.
The only things that I get angry abt is how there is more posting abt other bands than the band this site is for. No one talks abt the band anymore here except for the day or 2 surrounding each show.
The absolute solidarity among the fans that do go to NOT REVIEW the shows here(except Ren and let\'s face it even those barely pass as show reviews any longer) or on the archive is truly amazing.
The influx of interest in such a shitty band by fans of a clearly musically superior band is stupefying and makes me more sad than angry for the direction the Breakfast may follow.
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Another Rufus lost to the wind of SER! Whoever made this show must be ballin\'!
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inverted sandwich? What does that even mean?
When a song is inverted it is played ending first, immediately followed by the songs beginning. Gladys\' ending last night was played first...the beginning of the song came later in the set.
Dyslexic:
Basically, a song is considered dyslexic if it is broken up, similar to an inverted version, but the song structure is played out of order or not immediately following each other. The band might play the end of a song in the first set, then start off the second set with the beginning. This would be considered a dyslexic version of the song.
Anyway, like it or not, dyslexic is the most accurate description.
Show last night was *GREAT*! I think Matt Vallo taped so everyone should be seeing a recording soon.
Nice turnout last night too. Only a few Breakfast regulars there last night, but probably 15-20 younger fans that I haven\'t seen before. They were all loving it and getting down hard.
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Setlist looks like a tasty B\'fast treat filled with exquisite sandwiches. Wish I could\'ve been there.
What the fuck is this Dyslexic shit?
Is this the first use of the term dyslexic as part of an official B\'fast setlist? When are we going to use the term "retahted". I could have used that to describe the "Rush" played at Red Square on 10-23-09.
I: Jam* > Sleeping Beauty, Reel Time, Great Big Fiery Ball in the Sky > Puppetry, Phaddy Boom Baddy, Pygme Twylyte > Taboo or Not Taboot, Rush#, Living Daylights**, Buquebus
* with Steve Molitz
** new version
# retahted
Thanks to FieryBill for the setlist!
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Ahh, good night to get slammed with the flu. Shoulda got my shots! :P
My 2 cents on "dyslexic"... I don\'t feel this is a term that belongs on Breakfast setlist notation. Nick and others, I have no problem with the definition. It\'s obvious what it means. However, it\'s also setlist notation that is unique to Disco Biscuits.
In the world of PB we have always enjoyed sandwiches for Breakfast and songs have been "inverted" (which is the proper notation for such) as long as I can remember.
The fact is Breakfast already has a little tradition here, and by putting "dyslexic" instead of "inverted" it just looks like they want to copy Biscuits. Until the band announces this as official policy I see no reason to change the well established notation.
Just as Biscuits don\'t have Space City Affairs and only Umphrey\'s has "Jimmy Stewarts", "dyslexic" is a term that only applies to Disco Biscuits.
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if you went to the show you wouldn\'t need such a thorough review. I personally have only been to around 40 shows, i am certainly still a n00b by bfam standards, but last night was in my top 3, and im glad i can brag i was there. Epic rufus, Absurd mooboos, and every song was played equally as hard as the last. Great builds, peaks that exceeded peaks, and so much timmy walking the bottom of the fret board you could see all the ladies panties getting wet. I don\'t want to hear that someone has been to a better show then me because hey, you probably have. but no one should have missed last night. I drove 3 hours from new Hampshire with a full car, whats your excuse? Everyone should be required to bring a virgin to any show they attend. and i am not talking about tight vagina. although...
Lastly, i have never been to a biscuits show nor have i ever posted on their forum or read a set list, and i still think dyslexic fits what happened last night. anyone who could have predicted any song in succession last night would have to be dyslexic.
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inverted sandwich? What does that even mean?
When a song is inverted it is played ending first, immediately followed by the songs beginning. Gladys\' ending last night was played first...the beginning of the song came later in the set.
Dyslexic:
Basically, a song is considered dyslexic if it is broken up, similar to an inverted version, but the song structure is played out of order or not immediately following each other. The band might play the end of a song in the first set, then start off the second set with the beginning. This would be considered a dyslexic version of the song.
Anyway, like it or not, dyslexic is the most accurate description.
Well for years the fans of this band have been calling any time a song was started and then bailed on with songs played inbetween and then back to the bailed song a sandwich.
When a song has been started with the ending it has been called inverted.
Pretty fucking simple to figure out.
Adding dyslexic to the breakfast setlist notation lexicon is both redundant and idiotic.
As for your example of splitting the song among the end and start of sets well no that would actually still be an inverted version according to your definition as the music that is played immediately after the end is the beginning.
There are no songs played by the band during setbreak.
Can you see how your new and improved notation can be more confusing than the simple notation we already have?
bisco kidz are funny
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As for Gladys, I would argue that since they did the Gladys Last Verse (Tim saying Gladys Pimp and Kanagaroos with me...) > Gladys Jam > Score without the Gladys ending, then did the beginning through the "Take No Shit" segment, it wasn\'t really dyslexic. Anyone who knows Bisco knows Confrontation for example as a song they do dyslexic often. For example, the ending of Confrontation is played, then later in the show they do the beginning through the jam..... 6/26/07 for example (Tractorbeam). I know Gladys is a song they normally don\'t end, they just jam into something else, but check 2/28/09 for example, the encore at The Field, full version with ending.
Sometimes I see on Phantasy Bisco "mid only" or "first verse only" or whatever, so I would argue that this setlist should be labeled Gladys (last verse only) > Jam > Score, then Rufus > Coma > Gladys (beg > mid) > Eppy 3....
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Ahh, good night to get slammed with the flu. Shoulda got my shots! :P
My 2 cents on "dyslexic"... I don\'t feel this is a term that belongs on Breakfast setlist notation. Nick and others, I have no problem with the definition. It\'s obvious what it means. However, it\'s also setlist notation that is unique to Disco Biscuits.
In the world of PB we have always enjoyed sandwiches for Breakfast and songs have been "inverted" (which is the proper notation for such) as long as I can remember.
The fact is Breakfast already has a little tradition here, and by putting "dyslexic" instead of "inverted" it just looks like they want to copy Biscuits. Until the band announces this as official policy I see no reason to change the well established notation.
Just as Biscuits don\'t have Space City Affairs and only Umphrey\'s has "Jimmy Stewarts", "dyslexic" is a term that only applies to Disco Biscuits.
Thanx for being a cooler and clearer head(even fluish) than I.
The bisco influence here lately just gets me perturbed.
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Leith you don\'t like Bisco, we get it. Why do you always diss them and their fans on here? People are gonna keep liking them whether you bash them on here or not. In fact I\'m listening to them right now.
And by the way, dyslexic absolutely SHOULD be a part of Breakfast setlists, it what they played was dyslexic!
The 8/30/08 Queeb was 100% without a doubt dyslexic, there\'s no debate about it....
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Leith you don\'t like Bisco, we get it. Why do you always diss them and their fans on here? People are gonna keep liking them whether you bash them on here or not. In fact I\'m listening to them right now.
And by the way, dyslexic absolutely SHOULD be a part of Breakfast setlists, it what they played was dyslexic!
The 8/30/08 Queeb was 100% without a doubt dyslexic, there\'s no debate about it....
You should throw your speakers out the window.
I have only really started bashing bisco since this place became all abt the biscuits so much so you guys have convinced the moderators to use bisco notation superseding the notation already in use here for BREAKFAST fans.
Sad really. Don\'t you bisco fucks already have a site somewhere else?
Really when it\'s in TFA cool but bringing this shit into actual Breakfast discussion is deplorable to me.
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It would be dyslexic if Buquebus was a Disco Biscuits song.
As it is a Breakfast song it would be "inverted" with perhaps additional descriptive notation.
Clear headed, Leith?? I\'m on so much meds I feel like a robot :lol:
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I disagree BD. We all know what an inverted See the Light is, and they didn\'t do that with Buquebus on 8/30/08. They jammed Eschers 3 into the 1st jam of Queeb, then played through the rest of the song, with the ending. Then later in the show they played the beginning of Queeb to where they\'d normally start the first jam, and went into And She Was. That\'s dyslexic.
If an inverted See the Light is mid > end > beg all in a row without any songs in between, then what was 10/27/07? They did mid > end > Queeb > Son of Simpleton, then the beginning of See the Light at the end of set 2. I see that\'s labeled inverted on the archive and I think that\'s wrong too...
But hey, opinions are like armpits....
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i dunno what my opinion is on this whole notation thing,
but this show looks HOT!!!!
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I don\'t think that Dyslexic is exclusively a Disco Biscuits "term". How many bands out there even play their songs dyslexically? I really don\'t know too many. Since the Disco Biscuits do it so often the term is frequently associated with their setlists to provide a more accurate description of how they played a particular version of the song. Plus it makes setlist notations easier. Don\'t need to put "beg > mid" or "last verse only" because that is already what dyslexic means.
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I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
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I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
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u know leith lives in san diego right?
i know he gets a little grumpy through the interwebs, but how many shows have any of us seen 3000 miles from home? i know only a couple for me...
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I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
Hey dude -
Don\'t call out a guy that\'s traveled from CA to see these guys... Ask the question, when was the last time TB made it anywhere remotely close to CA and you\'ll have your answer as to when Leith was able to get to a show... As for putting out multiple new albums, Live As Is the first in several years now and Existential Funk is the first new song since the days of Ostreicher... So, since you\'ve proclaimed yourself a TB noob, learn the history of the band and the fans before you start bashing one of it\'s most loyal fans...
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i dunno what my opinion is on this whole notation thing,
but this show looks HOT!!!!
it sure was. i always love a dancey show, and sometimes i\'m a little disappointed when it\'s a mostly "rock" show...last night was not the case. opening jam was a highlight (as it usually is) and a mooboo\'s opener was definitely a treat. not a huge fan of the song synergy but its jams are usually pretty tight. tonight was no different. there was some p-funk rapping in the CMSS intro jam. a nice song, but bathroom break for me. existential funk has a bunch going on...need to hear it some more. seems like it has potential. second set was where shit got serious. opening with the end of gladys was a good way to get the crowd fired up immediately and they ripped through score, which, for me, is usually a song i don\'t get fired up about until i find myself slackjawed at the end of it. rufus>wake up>gladys>eppy3 is a sweet little sequence. it was as good as it looks. i\'m happy to hear those songs at any show i go to...especially when they\'re played as well as they were last night.
several times during the show this thought occurred to me (and it\'s obvious, but for some reason last night it really hit me): it\'s unbelievable how well these guys play these songs. the way they can slide from a composed section to a jam on the composition (not a full on jam, but just a few measures playing on the theme) back into a composed section...i don\'t hear that from any other band. like \'93-style phish. it really is a treat to see them so often. i\'m sure tonight will rage.
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Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. I will grow old and not be able to make it to breakfast shows someday, but until then n00b me all you want. No one needs to hear the same bull shit everytime you miss a show. Obvously there is no winning with you old guys, so whatever. Times change and and you only get one chance to make any decision. Im 23, im sure if the breakfast travels 3000+ miles in the future and i can afford to go i will, and if i can\'t, i will be upset i didnt go. but i wont call people out for trying to build a lexicon language or get my panties in a bunch. They don\'t need this negativity. We are clearly never going to get along so dont expect to ever see the names leith or yoda in my posts. Im sure everyone loves hearing what you have to say about shows you couldnt get to. And i know he lives on the west coast. and the breakfast is an east coast band.
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n00b it up, brotha!
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at what point of gladys did they start?
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Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink. I will grow old and not be able to make it to breakfast shows someday, but until then n00b me all you want. No one needs to hear the same bull shit everytime you miss a show. Obvously there is no winning with you old guys, so whatever. Times change and and you only get one chance to make any decision. Im 23, im sure if the breakfast travels 3000+ miles in the future and i can afford to go i will, and if i can\'t, i will be upset i didnt go. but i wont call people out for trying to build a lexicon language or get my panties in a bunch. They don\'t need this negativity. We are clearly never going to get along so dont expect to ever see the names leith or yoda in my posts. Im sure everyone loves hearing what you have to say about shows you couldnt get to. And i know he lives on the west coast. and the breakfast is an east coast band.
Lexicon and language are the same fucking thing KID!
You and your piss ant bisco fuck friends are the ones INTRUDING on a language ALREADY IN USE!
WE DON\'T NEED ANY SHIT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BISCO CRAP.
We\'ll take people that are open to the Breakfast but play by the rules we already have set up assholes!
As far as traveling 3000+ miles to see these guys.
Guess what?
I couldn\'t afford it but I did it anyway and dealt with the consequences.
As far as traveling anymore, I don\'t bitch about them not touring anymore so fuck right the hell off there.
I\'m sure your idiocy is merely due to your young age so I\'ll just stop right here.
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there are some very serious rules around here! THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!
*SETLIST ADDITION*: the gladys that opened the second set was preceded by a M.E.M.P.H.I.S. tease
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this isn\'t \'nam, smokey. this is bowling. there are RULES!
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*SETLIST ADDITION*: the gladys that opened the second set was preceded by a M.E.M.P.H.I.S. tease
:lol: that would just be so awesome.
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this isn\'t \'nam, smokey. this is bowling. there are RULES!
\'xactly!
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*SETLIST ADDITION*: the gladys that opened the second set was preceded by a M.E.M.P.H.I.S. tease
:lol: that would just be so awesome.
not kidding at all. ask the tmn8r
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I think it needs to be confirmed by band members if they want to use dyslexic notation (tmn8r, thatguy, chrislikesbass, sequia please step in here).
In my personal opinion it makes sense to use, but only if the band gives the ok will i use it.
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I think it needs to be confirmed by band members if they want to use dyslexic notation (tmn8r, thatguy, chrislikesbass, sequia please step in here).
In my personal opinion it makes sense to use, but only if the band gives the ok will i use it.
This really has nothing to do with them as they\'ll probably tell whoever wants to ask them.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the way Breakfast setlists have been denoted for years.
There are Breakfast fans that do not check in as much as most of us and for them to see new setlist notation which is pretty exclusive to the Disco Biscuits could be confusing and a turn-off if they think The Breakfast has suffered an influx of bisco kidz which caused such a change in setlist notation.
I see the setlist has been changed to the notation we as Breakfast fans are used to and I thank whoever did that.
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how can they invert a song if they split it up? that doesn\'t make any sense! I AM OUTRAGED! SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!
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*SETLIST ADDITION*: the gladys that opened the second set was preceded by a M.E.M.P.H.I.S. tease
:lol: that would just be so awesome.
not kidding at all. ask the tmn8r
He did say there was a M.E.M.P.H.I.S. tease b4 Gladys, but it was just the first few chords very quickly. 3 seconds at most
I think it needs to be confirmed by band members if they want to use dyslexic notation (tmn8r, thatguy, chrislikesbass, sequia please step in here).
In my personal opinion it makes sense to use, but only if the band gives the ok will i use it.
I don\'t really think the band cares...i\'m surprised people on this board care so much. I guess that\'s what happens when I am (partially) credited with set list post.
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how can they invert a song if they split it up? that doesn\'t make any sense! I AM OUTRAGED! SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!
Makes sense to Breakfast fans but maybe not so much in the addled mind of a bisco kid.
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There are Breakfast fans that do not check in as much as most of us and for them to see new setlist notation which is pretty exclusive to the Disco Biscuits could be confusing and a turn-off if they think The Breakfast has suffered an influx of bisco kidz which caused such a change in setlist notation.
Yes...we don\'t want to turn-off the fans that already don\'t come to the shows
I see the setlist has been changed to the notation we as Breakfast fans are used to and I thank whoever did that.
You did it!
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I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
:no:
u know leith lives in san diego right?
i know he gets a little grumpy through the interwebs, but how many shows have any of us seen 3000 miles from home? i know only a couple for me...
I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
Hey dude -
Don\'t call out a guy that\'s traveled from CA to see these guys... Ask the question, when was the last time TB made it anywhere remotely close to CA and you\'ll have your answer as to when Leith was able to get to a show... As for putting out multiple new albums, Live As Is the first in several years now and Existential Funk is the first new song since the days of Ostreicher... So, since you\'ve proclaimed yourself a TB noob, learn the history of the band and the fans before you start bashing one of it\'s most loyal fans...
Thanks guys.
I see the setlist has been changed to the notation we as Breakfast fans are used to and I thank whoever did that.
You did it!
No I believe the Breakfast\'s Official Archivist corrected the error.
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I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
:no:
u know leith lives in san diego right?
i know he gets a little grumpy through the interwebs, but how many shows have any of us seen 3000 miles from home? i know only a couple for me...
I wish i had an emoticon shaking his head. This is why the following is so sparse for the breakfast these days, cause everyone is worried they might turn out to be as big of a douche as you leith. What was the last show you even went to? They have put out multiple new albums and are writing awesome new song and all you can do is bash the new gen of bfams lingo. Get a life kid. Times are changing, and until i see you at a show, your just a hoo haa with a computer. no one wants to hear about the sand in your vagina.
I was at this show and i am sooooo pumped for the audio. Im hoping this rufus with rival the 11-30-07 rufus i listen to all the time. The n00bs i brought with me had a fuckin awesome time. i dont see how tonights show in RI could top last nights, but if anyone can do it, its the breakfast. wish i could go.
Hey dude -
Don\'t call out a guy that\'s traveled from CA to see these guys... Ask the question, when was the last time TB made it anywhere remotely close to CA and you\'ll have your answer as to when Leith was able to get to a show... As for putting out multiple new albums, Live As Is the first in several years now and Existential Funk is the first new song since the days of Ostreicher... So, since you\'ve proclaimed yourself a TB noob, learn the history of the band and the fans before you start bashing one of it\'s most loyal fans...
Thanks guys.
I back what everyone else wrote. anyone who questions leith\'s adoration, love, and devotion to this band, never really read anything leith has written over the years, saw leith in the middle of new haven (when he lives in a much better time zone), and plain just doesn\'t comprehend the arguement he is trying to make here.
sure leith can debate and argue over things, and you may not always agree with him, but one thing is for sure, leith has shown his love for this band. And if I turned out to be a "douche" like Leith or if I am one, I\'ll stand proud..... I think that made sense...
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Doesn\'t dyslexic imply that the ending is played? If they didn\'t play the ending of Gladys how is it dyslexic? How much of the "2nd half" of the song has to be played for it to be dyslexic?
(Kinda off topic, but I think it would be really fun to call this Pimp dyslexic since "dys" are the last three letters of Gladys. Plus it\'s a great idea for a shirt. Imagine going to a Mets game and seeing some fan wearing a jersey and on the back it says "Dyslexic Pimp" ? Yeah, that would probably be me.
And yes, if there\'s songs in between parts, it can\'t be inverted right? That\'s what I was saying about the 10/27/07 See the Light earlier. So then this Gladys wasn\'t inverted or dyslexic, right? I think we should get an official ruling from an experienced trained professional on this! Haha
I don\'t really think the whole "end only" "inverted" etc. jargon should be limited to Bisco. I\'ve always thought it would be awesome if Phish did that kinda stuff. It makes things more interesting and exciting IMO. Not that the music needs it or anything, it obviously doesn\'t. But it enhances an already great thing I think.
Like if they did David Bowie > Stash ending or something like that. Come on now, that would be sick. This insane Bowie jam is going, then it takes another direction..... out of no where it starts to sound like a Stash like jam, and then comes the "Maybe So Maybe Not" part, into the ending. Then later in the show they play Stash from the beginning, jam it into something else. Or maybe start Stash from the beginning the next night, or 2 nights later. Or Do Stash > Bowie ending the same show. Crowd would love that shit. I don\'t care what anyone says, it would be insane. There\'s so many different wacky, crazy, awesome ideas you can come up with a creative (quasi-warped) mind!
Ok I\'ve ranted enough on this today. Whatever this segment is described as on here, it doesn\'t matter. I know how much it ruled face and created ownage in Southbridgeage and what a great idea it was. The show was absolutely amazing and I\'m just happy I was a part of it!
And I\'ll end this post by mentioning that if you google "inverted" something comes up about Inverted Nipple Surgery. So that obviously has to be the name of the next new song, so they can do an Inverted Inverted Nipple Surgery...
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tronz=serbiz
one of the best bfast shows i\'ve ever seen. I\'ll expand on that later.
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tronz=serbiz
one of the best bfast shows i\'ve ever seen. I\'ll expand on that later.
No No expand on it now. The error has been corrected so now,
SAVE THIS THREAD!
Oh and thanx Tray but don\'t think that\'s gonna go far in the NBA thread. ;)
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I didn\'t read all of this but adrian wrote it as
Gladys Jam> Score, Rufus > Wake Up in a Coma > Gladys > Episode III.
When dangle asked him on it, he said "start with the jam section of gladys from the fill on, then later we go into the begining of gladys. When we reach the part where we would do the fill/jam, segway to eppy 3."
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Oh and thanx Tray but don\'t think that\'s gonna go far in the NBA thread. ;)
i know it won\'t. ;) especially since in their last game, the celts lost to the pacers. an 8-3 season to start has me kind of quiet.
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I apologize. I feel like a douche and have never met you two so all my comments are merely immaturity. And the last thing i want to do is piss off the TB family. One of the nices groups of people i have ever met. Sorry leith and yoda. For the record im not a disco biscuits fan.
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Dude - Stand by your convictions, you\'re starting to sound like me...
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I apologize. I feel like a douche and have never met you two so all my comments are merely immaturity. And the last thing i want to do is piss off the TB family. One of the nices groups of people i have ever met. Sorry leith and yoda. For the record im not a disco biscuits fan.
Whoops sorry then. I lumped you in w/ the bisco kidz due to your defense of bisco notation in Breakfast setlists.
That\'s all I was ticked about and now that it has been corrected no worries.
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Leith.... so you\'re OK with "inverted" being used on Breakfast setlists but not "dyslexic"? You know inverted is used on Bisco setlists too right?
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I\'m guessing that inverted is pretty much a universal term where dyslexic is a db term outside of the medical world...
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Leith.... so you\'re OK with "inverted" being used on Breakfast setlists but not "dyslexic"? You know inverted is used on Bisco setlists too right?
uh yeah I do but.....
I\'m guessing that inverted is pretty much a universal term where dyslexic is a db term outside of the medical world...
This^ and it\'s the term decided upon by the Breakfast\'s Archivist so the debate is over.
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I\'m guessing that inverted is pretty much a universal term where dyslexic is a db term outside of the medical world...
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I disagree. Both have specific definitions, and my point is that if they inverted something, they inverted something. If they did a dyslexic version, then it was dyslexic. Simple as that. We just need to tell it like it is. That Gladys was not inverted, so it hasn\'t been corrected. If the ending does not continue into the beginning, it is not inverted. The Gladys ending was not even played. Here\'s a made-up example of something dyslexic... "The Sound" for example:
Puppetry > The Sound (ending), The Sound (beginning > jam) > Puppetry
Let\'s not make this more complicated than it has to be. :)
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I disagree. Both have specific definitions, and my point is that if they inverted something, they inverted something. If they did a dyslexic version, then it was dyslexic. Simple as that. We just need to tell it like it is. That Gladys was not inverted, so it hasn\'t been corrected. If the ending does not continue into the beginning, it is not inverted. The Gladys ending was not even played. Here\'s a made-up example of something dyslexic... "The Sound" for example:
Puppetry > The Sound (ending), The Sound (beginning > jam) > Puppetry
Let\'s not make this more complicated than it has to be. :)
Disagree all you want dyslexic is not a Breakfast setlist notation.
Your bisco definitions mean nothing here.
It\'s not a democracy and the decision has been made check the setlist.
It\'s correct per Breakfast setlist standards.
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I indeed saw the setlist, and I think it\'s incorrect.
"It\'s corrected" = your opinion, which I disagree with.
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This^ and it\'s the term decided upon by the Breakfast\'s Archivist so the debate is over.
wait.who??
i\'m afraid your logic is null and void, the notation is decided whoever keeps the setlist that night. nicknels takes the duty of the night, i did last night. you can eat a d.
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I indeed saw the setlist, and I think it\'s incorrect.
"It\'s corrected" = your opinion, which I disagree with.
No it\'s not my opinion it\'s corrected per the Breakfast\'s OFFICIAL Archivist which is the standard used for Breakfast setlists.
This^ and it\'s the term decided upon by the Breakfast\'s Archivist so the debate is over.
wait.who??
i\'m afraid your logic is null and void, the notation is decided whoever keeps the setlist that night. nicknels takes the duty of the night, i did last night. you can eat a d.
Uh no you idiot it\'s not. As per the setlist submitted it was labeled dyslexic the Breakfast\'s OFFICIAL Archivist CORRECTED the error of having dyslexic on a Breakfast setlist and changed it to INVERTED.
So take that D and enjoy it up your ass.
As I said the debate is over but I\'ll enjoy all of you banging your head against the wall abt it.
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Leith. Tell me how the Gladys was inverted. Were you at the show? You have no idea. Just because it\'s at the top of the page right now doesn\'t mean it\'s correct. You may remember it previously said dyslexic, and that was changed. It can be changed again, and I\'m arguing that "inverted" should be taken down too, simply because it wasn\'t B > C > A or C > A > B (the definition of inverted).
So according to you the official archivist is incapable of ever being wrong? Come on now.
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I didn\'t read all of this but adrian wrote it as
Gladys Jam> Score, Rufus > Wake Up in a Coma > Gladys > Episode III.
When dangle asked him on it, he said "start with the jam section of gladys from the fill on, then later we go into the begining of gladys. When we reach the part where we would do the fill/jam, segway to eppy 3."
Leith. Tell me how the Gladys was inverted. Were you at the show? You have no idea. Just because it\'s at the top of the page right now doesn\'t mean it\'s correct. You may remember it previously said dyslexic, and that was changed. It can be changed again, and I\'m arguing that "inverted" should be taken down too, simply because it wasn\'t B > C > A or C > A > B (the definition of inverted).
So according to you the official archivist is incapable of ever being wrong? Come on now.
Well as per Paul\'s post above if this was their intention then by Breakfast standards they were going inverted that\'s how I know.
And no The Breakfast\'s archivist can be wrong sure he\'s human but my point is he is the one that decides final notation and he does not include dyslexic and probably never will.
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None of that makes any sense.
"start with the jam section of gladys from the fill on, then later we go into the begining of gladys. When we reach the part where we would do the fill/jam, segway to eppy 3".....
....Does not equal inverted, period. You can\'t go with Breakfast standards for your argument. Whatever they\'ve done in the past has nothing to do with what went down in that specific segment of music Friday night. You haven\'t even heard it, how could you be so passionate about something/argue for a correct notation when you didn\'t even hear it? It\'s insane.
The second thing you said especially makes no sense. What does "final notation" mean if it\'s not correct? It\'s just the opinion of one person. What if the final notation said inverted, then you heard the recording and felt it wasn\'t inverted? According to you, your opinion means nothing here because it\'s not a democracy and there was a final ruling that came from the archivist.... but then you contradict yourself by agreeing that if someone is human they are capable of mistakes. Doesn\'t that imply that there shouldn\'t be a "final notation" unless there\'s a consensus opinion on the matter from all parties who give a shit?
So I\'m the sky archivist and my final notation is that the sky isn\'t blue during the day. Guess I must be right!
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None of that makes any sense.
"start with the jam section of gladys from the fill on, then later we go into the begining of gladys. When we reach the part where we would do the fill/jam, segway to eppy 3".....
....Does not equal inverted, period. You can\'t go with Breakfast standards for your argument. Whatever they\'ve done in the past has nothing to do with what went down in that specific segment of music Friday night. You haven\'t even heard it, how could you be so passionate about something/argue for a correct notation when you didn\'t even hear it? It\'s insane.
The second thing you said especially makes no sense. What does "final notation" mean if it\'s not correct? It\'s just the opinion of one person. What if the final notation said inverted, then you heard the recording and felt it wasn\'t inverted? According to you, your opinion means nothing here because it\'s not a democracy and there was a final ruling that came from the archivist.... but then you contradict yourself by agreeing that if someone is human they are capable of mistakes. Doesn\'t that imply that there shouldn\'t be a "final notation" unless there\'s a consensus opinion on the matter from all parties who give a shit?
So I\'m the sky archivist and my final notation is that the sky isn\'t blue during the day. Guess I must be right!
Sure I can. That\'s what the standards are there for. It\'s exactly what a Breakfast inverted song is. How Adrian was describing it. Just because you don\'t understand or it does not fit YOUR definition is no reason to get so upset.
Who ever said I was sane? I just don\'t want dyslexic in Breakfast setlists and it seems neither does the archivist.
As I said before it\'s not a democracy if I "felt" something was not correct oh well all I can do is ask for it to be changed and when nothing happens complain some more etc. until satisfied or give up.
Do you understand the definition of contradiction?
Your assumption of an implication by me that a final notation shouldn\'t happen w/o consensus is just that, an assumption.
The Archivist holds the right to archive Breakfast setlists as he sees fit. That\'s WHY he\'s the archivist. If you don\'t like it well you\'ll just have to deal because he really doesn\'t post anymore.
Except to correct setlists. :lol:
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Oh and thanx Tray but don\'t think that\'s gonna go far in the NBA thread. ;)
i know it won\'t. ;) especially since in their last game, the celts lost to the pacers. an 8-3 season to start has me kind of quiet.
NBA Thread = thataway>.
I apologize. I feel like a douche and have never met you two so all my comments are merely immaturity. And the last thing i want to do is piss off the TB family. One of the nices groups of people i have ever met. Sorry leith and yoda. For the record im not a disco biscuits fan.
GoodfAH you for apologizing to Leith Jeff. Attaboy! No point in arguing over semantics really. Me and you both know that whether the Gladys was inverted/dyslexic/transexual or all of the above, most of all it was the heater. How it gets notated on the setlist doesn\'t even begin to explain what went down anyways. The entire show was balls to the wall. This may not be anything new for The Breakfast, They\'ve been playing balls to the wall ever since Tim & Adj got together. But Friday at Mill St. something happened. Something more than just all out ser biz tight ass funkin jams. Something special happened. It\'s hard to put into words what The Breakfast does musically. They consistently impress me and put me into a state of speechless amazement. Friday was one of those fantasy type setlists with heavy hitters all over the place, lucid jams, and melted faces. Rufus was my personal highlight, my eyes kept closing so i could picture what was going on musically in my head in colors (no i was not tripping). It was pure bliss. Everytime I did open my eyes I was blown away by the sheer talent on the stage. I hope this review can start to attempt to describe what went down for our Bfam brothers and sisters who couldn\'t be there for whatever reason, but i know it will come up short. All i can say is thank you tapers (Matt V this time) the music speaks for itself. Thank you Tim, Adj, Dangle, & Jordo, I hope you never quit making the surreal auditory art that no one else will ever recreate/ come close to. Long live The Breakfast (and the BFAM)!
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Peep Papa risin\' above! :stoned:
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several times during the show this thought occurred to me (and it\'s obvious, but for some reason last night it really hit me): it\'s unbelievable how well these guys play these songs. the way they can slide from a composed section to a jam on the composition (not a full on jam, but just a few measures playing on the theme) back into a composed section...i don\'t hear that from any other band. like \'93-style phish. it really is a treat to see them so often. i\'m sure tonight will rage.
No other band can slip so easily into such fluid jamming and be so incredibly toight at the same time. FACT.
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this still doesn\'t change the fact that leith is a flaming faggot and ruined a perfectly good setlist thread where i was gonna post a review but fuck it since its 5 pages wasted on debate over one fucking word. grow up.
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post the review brah!
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this still doesn\'t change the fact that leith is a flaming faggot and ruined a perfectly good setlist thread where i was gonna post a review but fuck it since its 5 pages wasted on debate over one fucking word. grow up.
Awww. So you\'re gonna take your review and go home?
:lol: and you want me to grow up.
Igz is pissed off :lol: whatever fuckwad. It\'s the internet.
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This^ and it\'s the term decided upon by the Breakfast\'s Archivist so the debate is over.
wait.who??
i\'m afraid your logic is null and void, the notation is decided whoever keeps the setlist that night. nicknels takes the duty of the night, i did last night. you can eat a d.
I\'m going to disagree with this completely. There are NUMEROUS examples of shows dave was not at, but after he got the tapes he updated the setlists to the breakfast standards. For examples, look no further than "mayfly disarray" vs "ahoy!" or "space city affair" vs "jam"
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Paul is exactly right. I could go on forever about the whole SCA/Jam thing.
It\'s simple..... Score, Rufus, Coma = songs in between the two segments of Gladys.... Leith, you obviously don\'t understand the definition of inverted. It\'s not my definition, it\'s the one used by everybody. There can\'t be anything in between the Gladys segments for it to be inverted. End of story! Plus as I keep saying there was no Gladys ending so it can\'t be dyslexic or inverted!
Adrian\'s quote was simply describing how they wanted to play it, it wasn\'t a commentary on how he thought it should be labeled. The labeling was done by the archivist, right?
And btw I\'m not upset, I have a smile on my face and am enjoying discussing this.
We\'re just gonna have to agree to disagree.
I just don\'t get why you wouldn\'t want dyslexic in the setlists if that\'s what you felt was accurate. Does the word scare you or something? It\'s just like inverted, just a little different. Just another way of having fun with the song, instead of doing the normal A > B > C. That\'s all... no big deal. Bisco has nothing to do with reporting the setlist accurately.
What if the archivist didn\'t want inverted in the setlists? Does that mean it\'s right? Dyslexic absolutely should be used when applicable. Just because you and whoever else wants to exclude it doesn\'t mean it\'s right...
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Paul is exactly right. I could go on forever about the whole SCA/Jam thing.
It\'s simple..... Score, Rufus, Coma = songs in between the two segments of Gladys.... Leith, you obviously don\'t understand the definition of inverted. It\'s not my definition, it\'s the one used by everybody. There can\'t be anything in between the Gladys segments for it to be inverted. End of story! Plus as I keep saying there was no Gladys ending so it can\'t be dyslexic or inverted!
Adrian\'s quote was simply describing how they wanted to play it, it wasn\'t a commentary on how he thought it should be labeled. The labeling was done by the archivist, right?
And btw I\'m not upset, I have a smile on my face and am enjoying discussing this.
We\'re just gonna have to agree to disagree.
I just don\'t get why you wouldn\'t want dyslexic in the setlists if that\'s what you felt was accurate. Does the word scare you or something? It\'s just like inverted, just a little different. Just another way of having fun with the song, instead of doing the normal A > B > C. That\'s all... no big deal. Bisco has nothing to do with reporting the setlist accurately.
What if the archivist didn\'t want inverted in the setlists? Does that mean it\'s right? Dyslexic absolutely should be used when applicable. Just because you and whoever else wants to exclude it doesn\'t mean it\'s right...
No your definition of inverted is not congruent with the way Breakfast setlists are kept. I find it hilarious you would put end of story like your definition is fact when you say everybody you must be kidding because obviously Dave changed it for a reason. To be congruent with how Breakfast setlists are kept.
You are in the minority. That\'s just the way it is.
The way Adrian described it to be played was a Breakfast inversion. Whether there are songs in the middle is of no consequence in a Breakfast setlist thus dyslexic does not exist.
A Breakfast inversion is obviously different than what you think an inversion should be.
You should get with the program when on a Breakfast board or deal.
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Just for the record:
Dyslexic (root word: dyslexia): dys⋅lex⋅i⋅a /dɪsˈlɛksiə/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [dis-lek-see-uh]
any of various reading disorders associated with impairment of the ability to interpret spatial relationships or to integrate auditory and visual information.
Inverted (root word: Invert): in⋅vert /v. ɪnˈvɜrt; adj., n. ˈɪnvɜrt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [v. in-vurt; adj., n. in-vurt]
–verb (used with object)
1. to turn upside down.
2. to reverse in position, order, direction, or relationship.
3. to turn or change to the opposite or contrary, as in nature, bearing, or effect: to invert a process.
4. to turn inward or back upon itself.
5. to turn inside out.
...sorry, I\'ve just been sitting back reading and laughing about this whole thing. Thought this might be a funny to throw out there...
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who is the archivist? davepeck? if so, dyslexic would not stand. but then again, davepeck hasn\'t been around lately, so who does that make the archivist? galenas originally had dyslexic written but then it changed.. this is a real debater right here
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wow this debate again?
move on people.
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who is the archivist? davepeck? if so, dyslexic would not stand. but then again, davepeck hasn\'t been around lately, so who does that make the archivist? galenas originally had dyslexic written but then it changed.. this is a real debater right here
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hmmm... who changed it?? wasn\'t me.
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who is the archivist? davepeck? if so, dyslexic would not stand. but then again, davepeck hasn\'t been around lately, so who does that make the archivist? galenas originally had dyslexic written but then it changed.. this is a real debater right here
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Uh Just because he doesn\'t post does not mean he gives up ownership of this site nor that he loses his Archivist position.
who is the archivist? davepeck? if so, dyslexic would not stand. but then again, davepeck hasn\'t been around lately, so who does that make the archivist? galenas originally had dyslexic written but then it changed.. this is a real debater right here
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hmmm... who changed it?? wasn\'t me.
How many times do I have to repeat it. Dave did it. He IS the Breakfast\'s archivist.
I\'m done with this. The debate is over Dave changed it and that\'s that.
Reviews of the show please.
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This is almost as fun as watching for Ken\'s posts in the "Billy, Cocaine\'s a helluva drug" thread. :-p
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How many times do I have to repeat it. Dave did it. He IS the Breakfast\'s archivist.
sorry, dude. i was away all day and obviously didn\'t read through the entire debate. (quite frankly because i don\'t care. but obviously some do. so whatever.) keep rocking, breakfast -- whether it\'s inverted, dyslexic, inside out or upside down!
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How many times do I have to repeat it. Dave did it. He IS the Breakfast\'s archivist.
sorry, dude. i was away all day and obviously didn\'t read through the entire debate. (quite frankly because i don\'t care. but obviously some do. so whatever.) keep rocking, breakfast -- whether it\'s inverted, dyslexic, inside out or upside down!
LOL, my thoughts exactly! I was thinking, how about we just call it SER f\'in insanity jam and be done with it? Well, I can respect the desire for archiving setlists, especially if they aren\'t taped; however, as long as each song is played differently, can we ever *truly* describe it precisely enough?
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yeah i skipped a lot of the mumbo jumbo in this thread too. sorry galenas i should have guessed another mod changed it. i don\'t give an eff what you call it anymore but i do like it when a song starts and they finish it later on in the show. very creative setlist approach.
yo im in mass area these days can\'t wait to hit up harpers ferry!
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I didn\'t change it either.
however, you all crack me up that this is somehow so important to you.
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I didn\'t change it either.
however, you all crack me up that this is somehow so important to you.
:popcorn:
Breakfast setlists will someday be a very important historical artifact.
I just want them to be consistent for posterity.
Plus the best tr0nz is over the small shit anyway.
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tronz=serbiz
one of the best bfast shows i\'ve ever seen. I\'ll expand on that later.
No No expand on it now. The error has been corrected so now,
SAVE THIS THREAD!
Leith I hope my review might have helped a little, I know it doesn\'t really do justice to what took place, but I like hearing other people\'s perspective on shows... can\'t wait for the tapes, i\'m sure you\'ll be getting down to 11/13/09 as soon as it becomes available. I hope someday this incarnation of The Breakfast can invertedly/dyslexicaly tear the west coast to shreds and leave a path of old hetty west coast hippies in it\'s wake, and I hope when that day comes I\'ll be raging right next to you. until that day.... Salud :beerban:
-Gfunk
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Every review is insightful. Thanks for yours Gfunk
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haha, i just laughed my way through this thread, thanks guys...
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awesome thread. I have to completely disagree with leith, and no it\'s not because I LOVE the biscuits because i\'m IN LOVE with the breakfast as well and have been for almost 10 years. It seems to me that calling everything inverted that isn\'t a>b>c makes no sense. FieryBill is exactly right (esp about what he said about phish) so there\'s no point in explaining more because he did perfectly. Leith I think you\'re just pissed because you don\'t like the biscuits, get over it. The biscuits rule and so do the breakfast, the biscuits do songs dyslexic and so do the breakfast, and it\'s fucking awesome. Too bad you missed those biscuit cali shows :)
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nice set list looks good wish i was there never seen jordan play bass