General Discussions => No Glove No Love => Topic started by: bezerker on October 07, 2008, 11:04:53 am
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on October 07, 2008, 11:04:53 am
Well the preseason kicked off last night. Here\'s to a Celtics repeat !! Green 18 !
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Post by: Vassillios on October 07, 2008, 11:07:26 am
Could be another Boston year
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 11:15:12 am
I am not a Knicks fan but I will be interested in seeing how they produce this season.
Not a huge basketball fan of this professional sport but enough to want to see the Celtics succeed.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on October 07, 2008, 11:25:09 am
(http://www.lakersweb.net/photos/AABP025.jpg)
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 11:37:34 am
Go move to L.A. if you love the Lakers so much.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on October 07, 2008, 11:40:38 am
In fact I think I will move to LA. I love Louisiana.
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 11:44:49 am
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In fact I think I will move to LA. I love Louisiana.
Good. If you read carefully you would have noticed the L.A..
Its OK though, you are still learning.
Louisiana loves YOU!
There you will only be a short drive away from Oklahoma City and the Thunder basketball team.
What did Oklahoma City name the team?
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Post by: SlimPickens on October 07, 2008, 12:01:59 pm
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I am not a Knicks fan but I will be interested in seeing how they produce this season.
Not a huge basketball fan of this professional sport but enough to want to see the Celtics succeed.
Yeah, they made HUGE moves in the off season signing 12 year veteran free agent Allan Houston and Euro-rookie chump Dan Grunfeld. I\'m setting my expectations low for the knickerbockers
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 12:03:41 pm
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I am not a Knicks fan but I will be interested in seeing how they produce this season.
Not a huge basketball fan of this professional sport but enough to want to see the Celtics succeed.
Yeah, they made HUGE moves in the off season signing 12 year veteran free agent Allan Houston and Euro-rookie chump Dan Grunfeld. I\'m setting my expectations low for the knickerbockers
I was meaning the front office and coach, didn\'t Isiah get the boot?
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Post by: SlimPickens on October 07, 2008, 12:25:38 pm
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I am not a Knicks fan but I will be interested in seeing how they produce this season.
Not a huge basketball fan of this professional sport but enough to want to see the Celtics succeed.
Yeah, they made HUGE moves in the off season signing 12 year veteran free agent Allan Houston and Euro-rookie chump Dan Grunfeld. I\'m setting my expectations low for the knickerbockers
I was meaning the front office and coach, didn\'t Isiah get the boot?
I don\'t see him on their front office staff listing.
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 02:17:47 pm
I actually think I remember hearing he was fired shortly after that other dude took over as gm?
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 07, 2008, 02:27:04 pm
As of right now I see no reason why the Celtics won\'t repeat, but the NBA is all about which of the top-tier teams are healthy come playoff time.
Just ask Andrew Bynum and the Lakers. I think they could have won that series with Bynum in the lineup.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on October 07, 2008, 02:38:08 pm
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I actually think I remember hearing he was fired shortly after that other dude took over as gm?
donny walsh booted him
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Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 02:49:54 pm
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I actually think I remember hearing he was fired shortly after that other dude took over as gm?
donny walsh booted him
Donny Walsh, yes, that is the name I was thinking of.
I haven\'t heard of any Basketball transactions because of baseball and football, have look the NBA over.
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Post by: Gordo on October 07, 2008, 03:08:29 pm
Bulls should be disappointing again. Derrick Rose will be fun to watch.. Joakim Noah? Not so much. Our big man discrepancy will make for a shit season, no doubt. But I\'m patient, a few years building around Rose as the orchestrator should work out. I think he\'s a fucking stud. Best athlete to come into the NBA in awhile.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 07, 2008, 03:15:34 pm
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Bulls should be disappointing again. Derrick Rose will be fun to watch.. Joakim Noah? Not so much. Our big man discrepancy will make for a shit season, no doubt. But I\'m patient, a few years building around Rose as the orchestrator should work out. I think he\'s a fucking stud. Best athlete to come into the NBA in awhile.
I\'m not talking about you, Gordo, because I know you are a Chicago guy, but I love all of the east coast Bulls fans who jumped on the bandwagon in the Michael Jordan era and are now stuck cheering for a team of underachievers.
Of course, being stuck as a Knicks fan ain\'t any better.
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Post by: Gordo on October 07, 2008, 07:32:06 pm
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Bulls should be disappointing again. Derrick Rose will be fun to watch.. Joakim Noah? Not so much. Our big man discrepancy will make for a shit season, no doubt. But I\'m patient, a few years building around Rose as the orchestrator should work out. I think he\'s a fucking stud. Best athlete to come into the NBA in awhile.
I\'m not talking about you, Gordo, because I know you are a Chicago guy, but I love all of the east coast Bulls fans who jumped on the bandwagon in the Michael Jordan era and are now stuck cheering for a team of underachievers.
Of course, being stuck as a Knicks fan ain\'t any better.
I actually witnessed the first Bulls championship in LA. I was born here, moved to NM, then to CA, and was 7 years old in Irvine for that first title against the Lakers. I got into a fist fight with some kid on my block over it. Told him Magic drinks Jordan\'s piss for breakfast. I ended up going 2-0 that day.
But yes I was ALWAYS a Chicago team player. We\'d drive to San Diego every time the Cubs were in town. And I spent summers/holidays with my dad in Chicago, so Cubs/Bears/Bulls/Hawks was instilled in me through caricature t\'s and everyone losing except for the Bulls. That was one hell of an era. Every June=Little league ballgame>watch Jordan make everyone look elementary.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 26, 2008, 10:23:37 pm
Repeat.
\'Nuff said.
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Post by: jocelyn on October 27, 2008, 12:39:28 am
Just looking for an explanation of why some of you CT residents are Lakers fans. I haven\'t read any NBA threads in the past, so I apologize if I am beating a dead horse. I just don\'t get it. That\'s all.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on October 27, 2008, 12:55:51 am
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Just looking for an explanation of why some of you CT residents are Lakers fans. I haven\'t read any NBA threads in the past, so I apologize if I am beating a dead horse. I just don\'t get it. That\'s all.
Since I don\'t want you to wait up all night for a response:
I once asked Devo how he became a Lakers fan. Devo grew up watching sports with an uncle who rooted for the Yankees, Lakers and Giants and he has been a fan of the same teams ever since. Not sure about Chris Pitch\'s story. Any other Lakers fans in CT?
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Post by: jocelyn on October 27, 2008, 05:47:04 am
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Just looking for an explanation of why some of you CT residents are Lakers fans. I haven\'t read any NBA threads in the past, so I apologize if I am beating a dead horse. I just don\'t get it. That\'s all.
Since I don\'t want you to wait up all night for a response:
I once asked Devo how he became a Lakers fan. Devo grew up watching sports with an uncle who rooted for the Yankees, Lakers and Giants and he has been a fan of the same teams ever since. Not sure about Chris Pitch\'s story. Any other Lakers fans in CT?
Fair enough.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on October 27, 2008, 07:14:13 am
chris pitche\'s story = magic johnson (plus a few rings im sure)
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Post by: DocEllis70 on October 27, 2008, 08:42:15 am
Anthony Keidis and Flea are huge Laker fans and Dave is ontop of his Keidis character
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Post by: Igziabeher on October 27, 2008, 12:43:25 pm
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chris pitche\'s story = magic johnson (plus a few rings im sure)
pitchie has aids?
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Post by: jocelyn on October 27, 2008, 02:37:43 pm
:wah:
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Post by: gitCHu ONe. on October 27, 2008, 06:05:56 pm
Am hoping that Shaq starting a season as a Sun will allow him to meld into the Amare/Nash/Raja/etc mix this year. It could happen. they do have the right ingredients.
My $0.02
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Post by: ChrisPitch on October 28, 2008, 10:31:32 am
Well, let\'s see. It was 1984 and as a budding six-year old sports fan, I recognized that there were two prominent athletes who were leading the way in the NBA.
One was a smooth, flashy point guard named Magic Johnson who played amidst the excitement and glamor of \'Showtime\' in Los Angeles. The other was a pasty, brain-dead, ball-hog hick who played on a court with a leprechaun in the middle. Boy, was that a tough decision.
Also of note is that, same as last season, the Celtics defeated the Lakers in the 1984 Finals. Of course, the Lakers bounced back to beat the Celtics in the next year\'s finals, as well as 1987. Hmmm. Interesting.
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Post by: wildcoyote on October 28, 2008, 11:12:10 am
Brain dead? Larry Bird=Basketball genius.
He also managed to steer clear of that pesky HIV virus.
Admit it. You dug the purple uniforms.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 28, 2008, 08:03:02 pm
Forget the Lakers story, ask Pitchie how he became a Cleveland Browns fan.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on December 18, 2008, 04:08:29 am
no one can beat the celts right now. dont see how this pattern can\'t continue obviously without haphazard injuries/mistakes. green 18 baby
(shit i forgot it was after 2 am. apparently you must disregard this post)
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Post by: Gfunk on December 18, 2008, 10:54:48 am
Rondo = Baller
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on December 18, 2008, 11:05:52 am
So do the Hawks just match up really well with the Celtics? Or is Atlanta finally a decent team again?
I don\'t really follow the NBA until after the All-Star Break, when the players start trying.
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Post by: Wolfman on December 20, 2008, 04:17:59 pm
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So do the Hawks just match up really well with the Celtics? Or is Atlanta finally a decent team again?
Both.
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I don\'t really follow the NBA until after the All-Star Break, when the players start trying.
That\'s true for a lot of teams, but believe me, the Celtics go 110% every night.
Last night, huge snowstorm, Breakfast is canceled, what do you do? Go to the Celtics game and get 1/2 price tickets of course! Good times! What a show. Lighting up the bulls with crazy moves everywhere. And when I go to a game I don\'t care about the score so much as getting one thing: EDDIE HOUSE....FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEEE! Got it 3 times last night! Eddie House for 3 is my favorite moment in sports of all time. Eddie House for 3 is better than an Ortiz walkoff, a Brady TD, and a Tim Thomas skate save combined.
The Celtics are better than last year. The Big 3 are just as good, which is more than good enough. Perkins is better. House is better. Powe and Allen are better. And Rondo has gone from good-enough-to-start-for-a-champion to anything-less-than-starting-the-all-star-game-is-a-snub. What a team. 16 in a row and counting. Most nights it\'s over by midway 3rd quarter. Oh my god.
Guess what all you little Laker fan bitches? You\'re gonna have turd in your stocking come Christmas day. When KG flushes on Lamar Odom, he\'ll be flushing the Lakers\' championship hopes down the drain with it. Hang out with the family, open presents, and drink cocoa, but don\'t turn on the TV. Celtics 105, Lakers 90.
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Post by: Lerherbles on December 20, 2008, 04:59:05 pm
I\'m sorry but no team can touch the Celtics right now. I\'ve watched my share of Laker games this season and I\'ll take The Cavs or the Hawks in a 7 game series against the Lakers. The Lakers have had one of the easiest schedules thus far. I don\'t mean to dump on the Lakers so much. I do think they are the best team in the West but they definitely have to step up their defense if they want to go all the way.
ChrisPitch, man I can\'t believe your comments on LB.
The three greatest players ever: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on December 20, 2008, 05:29:04 pm
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The three greatest players ever: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson.
Two words (and one hyphen) for you: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
The leading scorer in NBA history, third leading rebounder, and third all-time in blocked shots (despite the fact that blocks weren\'t even a statistic until his fifth season in the league). The dunk was banned from college basketball because of his dominance. He was 88-2 in college, was a player of the year and three-time NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player, and still holds several single-season and career records at UCLA.
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Post by: Lerherbles on December 20, 2008, 08:20:42 pm
I\'d definitely put Kareem in my top 5. A definite case can be built for him for the greatest player ever. I still will put Magic and Bird ahead of him. Remember in the 80 finals when Kareem when down with a sprained ankle and Magic played center and got 42 points, 15 assists and 8 rebounds.......That was cool. If we\'re gonna talk college stats we gotta give it up for my boy Pete Maravich.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on December 20, 2008, 10:18:59 pm
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Remember in the 80 finals when Kareem when down with a sprained ankle and Magic played center and got 42 points, 15 assists and 8 rebounds.......That was cool.
Do I remember something that happened in 1980? You must be new here. :drew:
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Post by: Lerherbles on December 20, 2008, 11:20:10 pm
Man I\'m only 27, I\'ve seen film. I should have stated that differently.
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Post by: Wolfman on December 23, 2008, 10:23:37 pm
Congratulations Boston Celtics First NBA team to ever start a season 27-2 Franchise record 19-game game winning streak About to smoke the Lakers on Chirstmas
I don\'t care about the records so much as MY DAWG and favorite Celtic of all time EDDIE HOUSE nailing a 30-footer at the buzzer with the Celtics up 16. That was awesome! House Money baby!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on December 25, 2008, 07:51:43 pm
eat a d lakers
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Post by: davepeck on December 25, 2008, 07:51:58 pm
yeah no.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on December 25, 2008, 08:06:10 pm
Well, obviously we all know (or at least most of us) that it matters way more in June, but damn it feels good whenever the Lakers beat Boston. Especially after last season. Especially to stop the streak. Especially since seemingly everyone had already crowned the Celtics.
Next time\'s in Boston on Feb. 5. Go Lakers!
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Post by: Wolfman on December 26, 2008, 12:00:38 am
If you wanna crown \'em, then crown their ass! lol
Enjoy the victory Lakers fans in Connecticut. The turd that was supposed to be in your stocking is now burning on my menorah and making quite a stench.
Given who won last June and who I am quite sure will win this June, I can\'t say I\'m that upset over it.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on December 27, 2008, 12:44:51 pm
What stinks worse than that turd Wolf was the Celtics performance last night against the juggernaut that calls itself the Golden State Warriors, who improved their record to a whopping 9-22 with that victory against your team.
It\'s amazing. In a span of about 24 hours Boston went from being the \'96 Bulls to the \'96 Celtics.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on January 08, 2009, 11:21:47 am
A week of Celtic games go by and there are nothing but crickets in the NBA thread. Kinda makes you wish for last year, doesn\'t it?
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Post by: ChrisPitch on January 08, 2009, 02:45:03 pm
No crickets here. The Lakers are the best team in the NBA and the Celtics are hideously overrated. Well, they were before their recent slide. Now, they\'re just mediocre.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Wolfman on January 08, 2009, 11:57:54 pm
<<<< I watched the last two games and i don\'t know who is out there for the Celtics. I don\'t even recognize them. It\'s like someone replaced the Celtics with these dudes who kind of look like them, but definitely aren\'t them. I cannot explain why this is happening to them.
But am I worried? Hardly. I don\'t see them possibly losing a 7 game series to any eastern conference team.
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Post by: kartoon42 on January 09, 2009, 11:14:48 am
huge game tonight, celts vs cavs for east coast supremecy. could have big implications on homecourt in the playoffs
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Post by: leith on January 11, 2009, 11:29:05 pm
FUCK A BUNCH OF celtics. They suck and they will be lucky to get by the Cavs and they sure as hell will not beat the Lakers this year. Great Christmas game you bunch of fucks. That sent the celts spiraling to where they are now and with that shitty bench and an old Big 3 I don\'t see it getting all that much better. Sure they\'ll win their division but that\'s all this year. Enjoy your one and done crown celt fans.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on January 11, 2009, 11:35:37 pm
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FUCK A BUNCH OF celtics. They suck and they will be lucky to get by the Cavs and they sure as hell will not beat the Lakers this year. Great Christmas game you bunch of fucks. That sent the celts spiraling to where they are now and with that shitty bench and an old Big 3 I don\'t see it getting all that much better. Sure they\'ll win their division but that\'s all this year. Enjoy your one and done crown celt fans.
leith = :clown shoes:
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Post by: leith on January 20, 2009, 01:26:40 am
Lakers just schooled Prince James and the cavs by 17. Not so hot w/o LeBron on the floor. Laker Bench Mob just too strong!
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Post by: ChrisPitch on January 22, 2009, 01:56:09 pm
How about 42 points and 15 boards for Andrew Bynum. Now do it against a good team. Go Lakers!
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Post by: leith on January 22, 2009, 02:05:18 pm
Yeah I was all stoked to see that and then remembered they were playing the Clips. Still great to see. Go Lakers!
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Post by: leith on January 26, 2009, 03:28:53 am
Nice to see Bynum step up against the Spurs. With Farmar back, everyone went back to their natural positions and the result was that the only starter to play in the 4th was Pau. Nice road trip coming up at the end of the week and the team is on a roll. Go Lakers!!!!!!!!
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Post by: wildcoyote on January 26, 2009, 09:57:27 am
Celtics DOMINATING again. At one point the score was 64-32. KG only played 24 minutes and they whopped a playoff bound Dallas.
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Post by: leith on January 26, 2009, 02:04:47 pm
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Celtics DOMINATING again. At one point the score was 64-32. KG only played 24 minutes and they whopped a playoff bound Dallas.
:lol: Peep the clueless East watching celtic fan. Dude Dallas is in the 8th spot and horrible. They will be lucky to make the playoffs.
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Post by: wildcoyote on January 26, 2009, 02:53:31 pm
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Celtics DOMINATING again. At one point the score was 64-32. KG only played 24 minutes and they whopped a playoff bound Dallas.
:lol: Peep the clueless East watching celtic fan. Dude Dallas is in the 8th spot and horrible. They will be lucky to make the playoffs.
Seriously Leith- turn off Brokeback Mountain, and check SportsCenter for a second. In the past week the C\'s have absolutely humiliated 2 of the top 8 teams from the West like the 92 Dream Team pounded Angola.
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Post by: mcajam on January 28, 2009, 06:26:27 pm
the lakers have a ref monopoly in the NBA. Bynum should be suspended and fined for a malicious, injury inducing foul. IF Okafor or Diop did that to Kobe, they\'d have been arrested for assault per Stern...
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Post by: leith on January 28, 2009, 07:51:54 pm
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the lakers have a ref monopoly in the NBA. Bynum should be suspended and fined for a malicious, injury inducing foul. IF Okafor or Diop did that to Kobe, they\'d have been arrested for assault per Stern...
I missed the game due to work but watching the video that is not a malicious foul, flagrant yes, not malicious. To say so shows a lack of understanding how to protect the paint and make sure others do not want to. It\'s a bummer dude got hurt pretty bad but hey that\'s just bad luck.
Let\'s just say I can\'t wait for more of this from Bynum. It\'s about time he asserted himself.
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Post by: mcajam on January 28, 2009, 08:34:33 pm
there are a few camera angles of the foul. the one from the baseline directly under the hoop shows two things... 1. Wallace is heading to the rim, and a foul there is intended for him to miss the basket completely. We see this all the time, and reply when a player makes the basket, "if you\'re gonna foul, FOUL him!" The act of fouling i dont have a problem with... but... 2. he fouls with an intent, not just to stop him from scoring, but to take him out completely, with no regard for safety. Walton was whistled for a flagrant in the Spurs game where he pulled down PArker, but it was changed as there was no maliciousness involved. This was a "AAU" mentality foul, in that he\'s sayin get the fuck outta my lane. plain and simple it was dirty
go celts
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Post by: leith on January 28, 2009, 08:43:54 pm
Tomato, Tomatto When he knocks the shit of Pierce on the 5th we can debate that one. Go Lakers!
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Post by: mcajam on January 28, 2009, 08:52:56 pm
and you will get the call...... and i hope Tommy Heinsohn does the broadcast so he will physically attack these zebras
U C O N N----UCONN UCONN UCONN
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Post by: leith on February 01, 2009, 01:02:14 am
Well it looks like Bynum isn\'t going to get the chance. Another freakin\' knee injury. Kobe fell on him! FUCK! MRI tomorrow. They need him and Ariza (out w/ concussion) on this road trip bigtime. At least they got the Knicks and Raptors b4 the celts game maybe they can get at least Ariza back by then.
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Post by: wildcoyote on February 05, 2009, 11:19:27 am
LeBron is amazing.
I think there\'s a game of interest on tv tonight
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Post by: zuke583 on February 05, 2009, 11:54:54 am
kobe might have to put up 70 if the lakers want to win this game
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Post by: leith on February 05, 2009, 11:21:00 pm
Even w/o Bynum the celts just can\'t beat The Lakers this year. If they make it to the Finals it will be 4-1 Lakers w/ Bynum, 4-2 w/o Bynum. Mark it down.
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Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 09:29:48 am
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Even w/o Bynum the celts just can\'t beat The Lakers this year. If they make it to the Finals it will be 4-1 Lakers w/ Bynum, 4-2 w/o Bynum. Mark it down.
Very good game last night.
You might be right about the Celts not having enough to over come the Lakers in the Finals.
I still like that action and will take that action come the finals. Celts in 7.
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Post by: Yoda on February 06, 2009, 09:35:06 am
NBA = Boring NCAA = Worth watching
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Post by: ChrisPitch on February 06, 2009, 11:41:36 am
Outstanding win by the Lakers last night. Garnett fouls out and so it goes low to Pau, for whom the Celtics have no answer. Great effort by Odom in the second half. And Kobe, well, is Kobe. A tremendous three with Pierce in his face to give the Lakers their first lead of the second half. And all without Bynum.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: NickNels on February 06, 2009, 11:56:49 am
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Outstanding win by the Lakers last night. Garnett fouls out and so it goes low to Pau, for whom the Celtics have no answer. Great effort by Odom in the second half. And Kobe, well, is Kobe. A tremendous three with Pierce in his face to give the Lakers their first lead of the second half. And all without Bynum.
Go Lakers!
A Lakers fan? What\'s the deal with that? I know the Knicks haven\'t been good for years, but jumping ship and front-running with Kobe? What happened to the East Coast hardcore fans (not that I\'m a Knicks fan...GO SUNS!)?
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Post by: ChrisPitch on February 06, 2009, 12:10:05 pm
A Lakers fan since 1984. And a Celtics hater ever since.
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Post by: wildcoyote on February 06, 2009, 01:32:48 pm
James Posey. PJ Brown. Sam Cassel.
The Celtics needed all 3 of these guys contributing to beat the Lakers in June. If it were Brown or Posey hoisting those OT jumpers instead of Glen Davis (1-3) the outcome may have been different. I hope this show Danny Ainge that he needs to pick up another piece or two before the deadline.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on February 06, 2009, 02:30:53 pm
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NBA = Boring NCAA = Worth watching
I totally agree. I\'ve been a believer of that since the late 80s ;)
With a few exception of some NBA rivalries from back in the day. For me, it will always be Bulls vs. Knicks in early-mid 90s. The agony I would feel back then.....
For me, its all about March Madness....
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Post by: bezerker on February 06, 2009, 02:54:34 pm
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yoda = Boring NBA = Worth watching
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Post by: NickNels on February 06, 2009, 03:15:01 pm
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yoda = Boring NBA = Worth watching
Do they even have basketball in New Hampshire? I thought it was just snow and rock piles.
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Post by: bezerker on February 06, 2009, 03:21:27 pm
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yoda = Boring NBA = Worth watching
Do they even have basketball in New Hampshire? I thought it was just snow and rock piles.
knee slapper !
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Post by: NickNels on February 06, 2009, 03:30:47 pm
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yoda = Boring NBA = Worth watching
Do they even have basketball in New Hampshire? I thought it was just snow and rock piles.
knee slapper !
So what\'s the deal with New Hampshire?
The state motto is "Live Free or Die", which appears on license plates...made by prisoners.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on February 06, 2009, 03:44:54 pm
haha new hampsh is baller. lots of stone and snow piles tho, you\'re right. at any rate, go celtics !!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on February 06, 2009, 09:45:43 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;219090
James Posey. PJ Brown. Sam Cassel.
The Celtics needed all 3 of these guys contributing to beat the Lakers in June. If it were Brown or Posey hoisting those OT jumpers instead of Glen Davis (1-3) the outcome may have been different. I hope this show Danny Ainge that he needs to pick up another piece or two before the deadline.
Wait What? Are you sure?
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The Celtics are better than last year. The Big 3 are just as good, which is more than good enough. Perkins is better. House is better. Powe and Allen are better. And Rondo has gone from good-enough-to-start-for-a-champion to anything-less-than-starting-the-all-star-game-is-a-snub. What a team.
:lol: :lol:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on February 07, 2009, 06:00:06 pm
I know Adam Morrison hasn\'t done much in his pro career, but Radmanovic is a completely one-dimensional player who\'ll take a three-pointer from Neptune if he gets a good look. So I say: good trade.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on February 07, 2009, 07:14:27 pm
Yeah just saw that. Def. good move all around.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on February 08, 2009, 06:03:20 pm
fuck off spurs thank you lakers
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on February 08, 2009, 06:36:54 pm
The Celtics are very confusing to me... I definitely wouldn\'t want my team to play them in the playoffs (my team is the Knicks, so this will probably not be an issue), but they definitely don\'t impress me like they did last year. It goes without saying that they are talented enough to beat any team on any day, but it feels like they are also flawed enough to lose to any team (any playoff-caliber team, at least) on any day.
Unless a major injury occurs, home court advantage will decide the East this season. The Lakers are the best team in the West on any court, but I never count out San Antonio in the playoffs.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on February 08, 2009, 07:05:03 pm
^^
i agree its been quite a weird season. they are still 3rd best in the nba so i got my head up but they def got to get their shit together to get another ring
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on February 08, 2009, 08:40:27 pm
Lakers are just that much better than every other team in the West this year and in the East except for Orlando but if they should meet again, I\'m sure The Lakers will have that figured out.
Away or at Home Laker Dominance asserts itself every game.
Kobe not feeling all that great? Fine. Pau and Lamar step up along with the best bench in the league and keep the wins rolling.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on February 08, 2009, 09:40:06 pm
Unreal performance by Odom. It\'s the Lakers\' year.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on February 25, 2009, 03:40:34 am
10-1 w/o Bynum so far including ROAD wins @ Boston and Cleveland. GO LAKERS!!! celtics eat a D!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: wildcoyote on February 25, 2009, 10:16:47 am
The Celtics bench is about to get alot better. Mikki Moore was released by the Kings in a salary dump, and Stephon Marbury was finally bought out by the Knicks.
I like Moore. 7\'0" energy guy. Would be a huge improvement over Patrick O\'Bryant.
Marbury is obviously a concern, but as Manny proved in LA, a talented jerk can be an asset if he\'s got something to prove (and playing for a new contract). If Marbury is one third as effective for the C\'s as Manny was for the Dodgers, then Celts are about to get real dangerous.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: NickNels on February 25, 2009, 10:30:55 am
Quote from: wildcoyote;220926
The Celtics bench is about to get alot better. Mikki Moore was released by the Kings in a salary dump, and Stephon Marbury was finally bought out by the Knicks.
I like Moore. 7\'0" energy guy. Would be a huge improvement over Patrick O\'Bryant.
Marbury is obviously a concern, but as Manny proved in LA, a talented jerk can be an asset if he\'s got something to prove (and playing for a new contract). If Marbury is one third as effective for the C\'s as Manny was for the Dodgers, then Celts are about to get real dangerous.
If the Knicks held onto Marbury until March 2nd he wouldn\'t have been eligible for post-season play regardless of what team he went to. Now I can see him going to the Celtics and participating in the 4-game sweep they will hand the Knicks in the first round...finished off at the Garden!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on February 25, 2009, 10:43:17 am
Quote from: NickNels;220927
Quote from: wildcoyote;220926
The Celtics bench is about to get alot better. Mikki Moore was released by the Kings in a salary dump, and Stephon Marbury was finally bought out by the Knicks.
I like Moore. 7\'0" energy guy. Would be a huge improvement over Patrick O\'Bryant.
Marbury is obviously a concern, but as Manny proved in LA, a talented jerk can be an asset if he\'s got something to prove (and playing for a new contract). If Marbury is one third as effective for the C\'s as Manny was for the Dodgers, then Celts are about to get real dangerous.
If the Knicks held onto Marbury until March 2nd he wouldn\'t have been eligible for post-season play regardless of what team he went to. Now I can see him going to the Celtics and participating in the 4-game sweep they will hand the Knicks in the first round...finished off at the Garden!
This is basically a vertbatem comment that the asshold Craig Carton was spewing this morning. All you left off is that Marbury would bring out the broom after the game and sweep the floor.
By the way... pro baskestball sucks my left nut...
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on February 26, 2009, 03:07:06 am
The Clippers? Really? rotfl
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on March 16, 2009, 12:30:48 am
The Lakers almost fell to Dallas due to complacency but pulled out the win to keep the best record in the league. Bynum still a few weeks away but it has not been a big problem. As long as he\'s healthy for the Finals...
The East is getting clogged at the top and it looks like the Cavs will come out on top.
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Post by: leith on April 06, 2009, 12:26:02 am
Well the playoffs need to get here fast. The Lakers are bored and tonight was a perfect example of that. Completely dominating the clippers and then they lost interest and had to play Kobe at the end.
Phil is going to have to change up his substitutions and coaching a bit to get this team\'s attention.
The West is pretty tied up under The Lakers but I think the Nuggets will rise up to face The Lakers in the West Finals.
While Orlando/Cleveland would be stellar and seems likely for the East Finals.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 09, 2009, 02:41:22 am
WOW a bunch of front running celtic fans. Nothing since KG went down. You all just saving up for the playoffs I hope? Bynum comes back tomorrow and I just happen to have tickets! Fucking stoked!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 09, 2009, 10:56:56 am
Aren\'t the Celts on like a five game winning streak?? ;)
I think Rondo and Allen are helping the team hold their own.
And I\'ll Note: I have only felt a sheer obligation to cheer for the Celtics eversince I got conned into purchasing my 9 year old cousin a custom Celtics jersey with his name on it. An investment like that deserves my cheering. They better win again before that kid throws that jersey to the bottom of his closet..... right now, he lives in it.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 09, 2009, 03:55:44 pm
Since Leith is more or less maintaining this thread solo these days, I may as well keep him company. Is Adam Morrison as wookish as his NBA player profile pic would suggest?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 09, 2009, 07:45:19 pm
can\'t wait for playoffs..... one week
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on April 09, 2009, 07:57:04 pm
what\'s up with this bullshit thursday schedule ?? !!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 12, 2009, 05:25:35 pm
Only one team can beat the cavs at home and it\'s not the celtics. :lol:
Forget the rest of the playoffs.
Lakers over Cavs in 6.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on April 12, 2009, 07:10:28 pm
ok leith.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 16, 2009, 01:04:06 pm
Can the celts make it as far as The Lakers did last year w/o a major component of their team?
I doubt it . The celts are not as talented as The Lakers are and are a pale imitation of the juggernaut of last year.
Even w/ Garnett the celts were not gonna get past the Cavs and now they just might not make it out of the 1st round.
This is just AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck the celtics
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 16, 2009, 01:28:30 pm
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Can the celts make it as far as The Lakers did last year w/o a major component of their team?
don\'t worry, scal will be back.
and why are you so worried about the celtics? seems to me like you are afraid of them. they are all you talk about. shouldn\'t you be focusing on the lakers? or do you have no hope for them either.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 16, 2009, 01:37:56 pm
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Quote from: leith;226938
Can the celts make it as far as The Lakers did last year w/o a major component of their team?
don\'t worry, scal will be back.
and why are you so worried about the celtics? seems to me like you are afraid of them. they are all you talk about. shouldn\'t you be focusing on the lakers? or do you have no hope for them either.
I\'m not worried at all. Can you read? These threads contain more posts than just the one above yours. I post about the celts because its funny how many front runners are on this board so I talk shit.
Garnett if he comes back at all is not going to be any help. Face it the celts are done and The Lakers have no problem with the Cavs.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 16, 2009, 01:41:32 pm
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Can you read?
yup
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Garnett if he comes back at all is not going to be any help.
that\'s not true
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Face it the celts are done and The Lakers have no problem with the Cavs.
soy chip but the cavs are on fiya.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 16, 2009, 01:46:14 pm
Despite a great record, something has been missing from the Celtics this year - even when Garnett was in the picture.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 16, 2009, 01:49:07 pm
Dear Celtics fans,
Tough shit.
Sincerly with love, etc.
ChrisPitch
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 16, 2009, 01:54:08 pm
im a celts fan, but its true, they have not been playing their best. losing to shitty teams, making games close when they should blowing teams out, and it doesn\'t look good.
but the playoffs are a whole new ballgame and it depends on how bad they want it. it depends on how bad any team wants it. and right now i would say the cavs want it the most.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on April 18, 2009, 03:37:21 pm
is ray ray ser ?? he\'s building a brick oven today. fuckin rondoooooooooo
FUCK ~@@! im a fuckin idiot
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 18, 2009, 04:01:18 pm
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is ray ray ser ??
I just checked on the games real quick - Ray Allen\'s performance must have been a total embarrassment for someone earning 18 million+.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on April 18, 2009, 08:05:30 pm
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is ray ray ser ??
I just checked on the games real quick - Ray Allen\'s performance must have been a total embarrassment for someone earning 18 million+.
its that good ol\' UCONN curse coming to haunt him. Curse=choking under pressure. sigh.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 20, 2009, 02:04:04 am
:lol: rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl OMG!!! :lol: rotfl
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 20, 2009, 07:19:24 pm
My Nerf ball game in the office is almost sick enough for a Youtube video. Kobe Z has got some ser moves.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 20, 2009, 10:20:27 pm
:lol: Way to barely pull out a win at home celts. Good Luck in Chicago. :lol:
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Post by: oldnewbie on April 20, 2009, 10:25:59 pm
ben gordon was the man!....ray wasn\'t bad either! former huskies lighting it up.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 20, 2009, 10:26:37 pm
did you watch the game leith? it was a good one
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on April 20, 2009, 10:43:52 pm
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did you watch the game leith? it was a good one
Yes I did and it was very entertaining. I would have thought after losing a home game already they would have put a hurtin\' on the Bulls but the Bulls were right there and thus my :lol: and why I think the celts are gonna need a truckload of luck to win one in Chicago the way both teams are playing.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 20, 2009, 11:12:07 pm
Ray Allen must have heard me trash talking him cause he nailed that clutch 3 pointer.... faith restored. for now.
now excuse me while i got figure out what happened to the rangers tonight. fuck. love this time of year. hockey.basketball.hockey.basketball.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on April 21, 2009, 02:11:28 am
ray DEF made up for the other night. his 2 daggers at the end of the game almost make my head go thru the ceiling. fuck ya way to make up for the haggard as fuck perormance saturday. now lets see what they can do on the road :: chews fingernails off ::
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 25, 2009, 08:03:23 pm
Can\'t believe Rondo is ballin\' to the tune of $1.3 million. With all the overpaid salary hags in the NBA, this guy deserves a raise.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 27, 2009, 11:04:16 am
Double OT yesterday and the Celts still couldn\'t pull of that win yesterday. I feel like they wanted it. But just not enough.....
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 27, 2009, 11:06:29 am
they needed that win... that way they could have ended the series at home. i bet this goes to 7.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 27, 2009, 11:54:07 am
Did anybody see the ridiculous moving screen that led to Ray Allen\'s three to tie the game at the end of regulation?
That play is both the reason why I\'m glad the Celtics lost and why I don\'t like the NBA.
(Still, Jesus Shuttlesworth has to hit the shot. And, of course, he does.)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on April 29, 2009, 02:53:29 pm
So should that have been a flagrant foul on Rondo? I do personally, but I also think that would have been a ballsy call by the officials. If I\'m a referee, I just call a regular foul and hope that Brad Miller hits them both to render the point moot.
Also, did it ever occur to the Bulls to double-team Paul Pierce, especially with Ray-Ray on the bench? At least make Glen Davis (or even Rondo) take the potential game-winner instead of the reigning NBA Finals MVP.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on April 29, 2009, 03:01:01 pm
Is Rondo up for a new contract in the next year or so? If so, any guess how much he\'ll stand to reap per year?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on April 30, 2009, 10:02:57 pm
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Is Rondo up for a new contract in the next year or so? If so, any guess how much he\'ll stand to reap per year?
max contract? it\'ll be interesting to see what happens with the big 3 up for new contracts in three consecutive years
on another note, are you ser with this celts/bulls series?
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Post by: jocelyn on April 30, 2009, 10:24:10 pm
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on another note, are you ser with this celts/bulls series?
No kidding, I need to get some damn sleep!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 30, 2009, 10:41:43 pm
3 OTs! Ray with 49! Just end it HERE celts
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Post by: zuke583 on April 30, 2009, 10:44:46 pm
rayray is unreal. fuck it though...i\'m off to timmy tour. i was almost out the door when the bulls were down 9...40 minutes later i\'m still here
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 30, 2009, 11:16:22 pm
What a heartbreaking loss for the Celts. 3 OTS! Ray Allen with 51 points (a record 9 three pointers)!! game 7 saturday in boston. my prediction: celtics will win, but it won\'t be pretty.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 01, 2009, 10:18:17 am
my prediction: garnett says "enough of this shit time to start winning some games" and suits up.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 01, 2009, 11:12:47 am
They\'ll take game 7, but I doubt they\'ll get much further than that.
Excuse the noobosity- What is the ruling when defining what is 3 points and what is 2? Is it 2 points if any of the foot at all is over the line, or does just most of it have to be behind/on it for it to be 3 points?
There were two questionable shots that ended up being called 2 pointers. I thought that the first one looked like 3, but the second one definitely two. But really I have no idea and would appreciate some clarification. :)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on May 01, 2009, 11:20:31 am
Down with boston...in any sport...
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Post by: weekapaug19 on May 01, 2009, 11:21:51 am
both feet need to be behind the line.
got shut out for game 7 tix...anybody try and have any luck?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 01, 2009, 11:38:55 am
Quote from: jocelyn;228995
They\'ll take game 7, but I doubt they\'ll get much further than that.
Excuse the noobosity- What is the ruling when defining what is 3 points and what is 2? Is it 2 points if any of the foot at all is over the line, or does just most of it have to be behind/on it for it to be 3 points?
There were two questionable shots that ended up being called 2 pointers. I thought that the first one looked like 3, but the second one definitely two. But really I have no idea and would appreciate some clarification. :)
I thought the first one was a 3 as well... if they counted it we would have gone to 4 OTs.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 01, 2009, 11:40:51 am
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Down with boston...in any sport...
How mature.
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Post by: zuke583 on May 01, 2009, 11:42:53 am
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They\'ll take game 7, but I doubt they\'ll get much further than that.
i think they can beat the magic. it took them 6 games to beat philly. and i think chicago might actually be good. no way they\'re beating the cavs though
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on May 01, 2009, 12:15:10 pm
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Down with boston...in any sport...
How mature.
Just being realistic....
Red Sox - I can\'t stand them and the ego that they\'re fans have grown. Bruins - Don\'t have as much of a problem with then, but love to see a #1 seed get knocked off. Patriots - I\'m a Jets fan, so screw their coach and everyone else on the team. Celtics - I actually was a fan when Bird played, but pro basketball bores the shit out of me. I should be rooting for these guys because Pierce is a KU alum, but they and their fans feel like the trophy should be handed to them because they were so good last year.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 01, 2009, 01:01:01 pm
What a great game last night. I was very happy to see Brad Miller hit two clutch free throws last night... not only preserve the victory, but also the "what-if" factor of Rondo\'s foul in Game 5. It\'s a shame that free agency will more or less eliminated the possibility of a true, long-standing rivalry between these two (or any two) teams. At least we can still watch Rondo and Gordon duke it out for years to come, regardless of which uniforms they are wearing.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 01, 2009, 01:26:59 pm
Quote from: Yoda;228997
Down with boston...in any sport...
Yeah!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Gordo on May 01, 2009, 01:33:38 pm
Best...series...EVER.
I love the Bulls, always have. It\'s nice to see some serious play out of a team that nearly died with Jordan. Finally a resurrection I actually believe in.
I think Boston wins Game 7, but in another thriller, possibly some blood shed involved. Point is I don\'t care all that much if they lose. Well, I do, but they\'ve given us some serious hope for the future already and more post-season entertainment in one series than I\'ve had in the past decade. They definitely have a shot at beating Orlando (if they pull it out), but the Cavs will absolutely drop the hammer come ECFs.
So while I\'d love to see them get another series under their experience belt, I really don\'t think it will matter that much. This series, win or lose, will be enough to build on. And I can\'t wait to see D-Rose improve exponentially every season for the next 5 years.
It\'s crazy how much better the NBA has gotten in the past 5 years too. Just a stockpile of superstars and top-shelf matchups nightly. Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 01, 2009, 01:44:06 pm
Quote from: Gordo;229038
Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
Confirmed: Yoda is a sucker for men playing sports in shorty shorts.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 01, 2009, 01:44:56 pm
Quote from: Gordo;229038
Best...series...EVER.
I love the Bulls, always have. It\'s nice to see some serious play out of a team that nearly died with Jordan. Finally a resurrection I actually believe in.
I think Boston wins Game 7, but in another thriller, possibly some blood shed involved. Point is I don\'t care all that much if they lose. Well, I do, but they\'ve given us some serious hope for the future already and more post-season entertainment in one series than I\'ve had in the past decade. They definitely have a shot at beating Orlando (if they pull it out), but the Cavs will absolutely drop the hammer come ECFs.
So while I\'d love to see them get another series under their experience belt, I really don\'t think it will matter that much. This series, win or lose, will be enough to build on. And I can\'t wait to see D-Rose improve exponentially every season for the next 5 years.
It\'s crazy how much better the NBA has gotten in the past 5 years too. Just a stockpile of superstars and top-shelf matchups nightly. Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
When both teams in a game start consistently scoring over 110 points I\'ll say you have the beginnings of an argument.
The defensively minded game that has been around for the past decade is the reason the NBA lost so many fans. When teams are consistently shooting under 50% the entertainment value plummets. Now that there are some actual scorers in the NBA again things are looking up.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Gordo on May 01, 2009, 01:57:01 pm
Part of what makes this class of superstars so great is their play on both sides. I can watch LBJ and D-Wade spat the shit out of someone, run the court, and dunk all over someone else at the other end, all night long. I love good defense--it makes high scoring nights special, and great individual performances more multi-dimensional.
I would stop watching the NBA if we had a bunch of Ben Gordons running around. Don\'t get me wrong, he\'s been key this whole series (except last night) on offense, but he plays ZERO defense and can consistently finish with ZERO assists. Game 1, for example. That said, it\'s nice to have guys like Benny G facilitating the true superstars of the game, the guys who own both ends of the court.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 01, 2009, 02:19:36 pm
Quote from: leith;229042
Quote from: Gordo;229038
Best...series...EVER.
I love the Bulls, always have. It\'s nice to see some serious play out of a team that nearly died with Jordan. Finally a resurrection I actually believe in.
I think Boston wins Game 7, but in another thriller, possibly some blood shed involved. Point is I don\'t care all that much if they lose. Well, I do, but they\'ve given us some serious hope for the future already and more post-season entertainment in one series than I\'ve had in the past decade. They definitely have a shot at beating Orlando (if they pull it out), but the Cavs will absolutely drop the hammer come ECFs.
So while I\'d love to see them get another series under their experience belt, I really don\'t think it will matter that much. This series, win or lose, will be enough to build on. And I can\'t wait to see D-Rose improve exponentially every season for the next 5 years.
It\'s crazy how much better the NBA has gotten in the past 5 years too. Just a stockpile of superstars and top-shelf matchups nightly. Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
When both teams in a game start consistently scoring over 110 points I\'ll say you have the beginnings of an argument.
The defensively minded game that has been around for the past decade is the reason the NBA lost so many fans. When teams are consistently shooting under 50% the entertainment value plummets. Now that there are some actual scorers in the NBA again things are looking up.
i blame pat riley\'s knicks
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 01, 2009, 02:30:06 pm
I often like the players until they open their mouths in the after-game interviews. I thought Kevin Garnett was a respectable guy for a second until he opened his mouth and sounded like a total jackass with terrible on-camera presence.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 01, 2009, 03:44:17 pm
Quote from: zuke583;229048
Quote from: leith;229042
Quote from: Gordo;229038
Best...series...EVER.
I love the Bulls, always have. It\'s nice to see some serious play out of a team that nearly died with Jordan. Finally a resurrection I actually believe in.
I think Boston wins Game 7, but in another thriller, possibly some blood shed involved. Point is I don\'t care all that much if they lose. Well, I do, but they\'ve given us some serious hope for the future already and more post-season entertainment in one series than I\'ve had in the past decade. They definitely have a shot at beating Orlando (if they pull it out), but the Cavs will absolutely drop the hammer come ECFs.
So while I\'d love to see them get another series under their experience belt, I really don\'t think it will matter that much. This series, win or lose, will be enough to build on. And I can\'t wait to see D-Rose improve exponentially every season for the next 5 years.
It\'s crazy how much better the NBA has gotten in the past 5 years too. Just a stockpile of superstars and top-shelf matchups nightly. Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
When both teams in a game start consistently scoring over 110 points I\'ll say you have the beginnings of an argument.
The defensively minded game that has been around for the past decade is the reason the NBA lost so many fans. When teams are consistently shooting under 50% the entertainment value plummets. Now that there are some actual scorers in the NBA again things are looking up.
i blame pat riley\'s knicks
Don\'t knock the 80s/90s knicks. that was my team. Ewing, Starks hitting bricks....man, takes me back to middle school/high school years. God, how that team disappointed me.
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They\'ll take game 7, but I doubt they\'ll get much further than that.
i think they can beat the magic. it took them 6 games to beat philly. and i think chicago might actually be good. no way they\'re beating the cavs though
I agree, they\'ll beat the magic. However, i think if the Cavs beat them, they\'ll go out fighting. They\'ll get hungrier the further they go......
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Post by: Gordo on May 01, 2009, 04:01:58 pm
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I often like the players until they open their mouths in the after-game interviews. I thought Kevin Garnett was a respectable guy for a second until he opened his mouth and sounded like a total jackass with terrible on-camera presence.
No shit. He has looked like an absolute fool all series. Loc Doggin\' in a suit, mother-fuckin\' from the bench.
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I agree, they\'ll beat the magic. However, i think if the Cavs beat them, they\'ll go out fighting. They\'ll get hungrier the further they go......
Cavs are way better than everyone in the East, no doubt they coast to the finals.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 01, 2009, 04:11:02 pm
bill simmons article on the celts/bulls series so far (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090501&sportCat=nba)
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 01, 2009, 04:19:42 pm
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bill simmons article on the celts/bulls series so far (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090501&sportCat=nba)
This was a great article. Even though I\'m not a Simmons fan at all, it reminded me why he is a professional sports writer and I\'m not... this is everything I was thinking about this series (expect the parts about being a Celtics\' fan) that I had no chance of effectively putting into words.
I also like his idea about the five-year grace period after winning a championship... now if only he would follow his own advice when it comes to the Patriots, then I would be able to read his columns during football season without getting pissed off.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Gordo on May 01, 2009, 05:32:54 pm
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bill simmons article on the celts/bulls series so far (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090501&sportCat=nba)
This was a great article. Even though I\'m not a Simmons fan at all, it reminded me why he is a professional sports writer and I\'m not... this is everything I was thinking about this series (expect the parts about being a Celtics\' fan) that I had no chance of effectively putting into words.
I also like his idea about the five-year grace period after winning a championship... now if only he would follow his own advice when it comes to the Patriots, then I would be able to read his columns during football season without getting pissed off.
I didn\'t see this article posted here (came back on here to post the link), just read it, recited half of it out loud to my roommates, and enjoyed every bit of it. Great article.
Funniest line: "...then a WNBA player dunked on Paul Pierce." :lol:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 02, 2009, 09:13:57 am
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Best...series...EVER.
I love the Bulls, always have. It\'s nice to see some serious play out of a team that nearly died with Jordan. Finally a resurrection I actually believe in.
I think Boston wins Game 7, but in another thriller, possibly some blood shed involved. Point is I don\'t care all that much if they lose. Well, I do, but they\'ve given us some serious hope for the future already and more post-season entertainment in one series than I\'ve had in the past decade. They definitely have a shot at beating Orlando (if they pull it out), but the Cavs will absolutely drop the hammer come ECFs.
So while I\'d love to see them get another series under their experience belt, I really don\'t think it will matter that much. This series, win or lose, will be enough to build on. And I can\'t wait to see D-Rose improve exponentially every season for the next 5 years.
It\'s crazy how much better the NBA has gotten in the past 5 years too. Just a stockpile of superstars and top-shelf matchups nightly. Yoda--the NBA is FAR from boring these days. I\'d argue it has surpassed the entertainment level of the 80\'s/early-90\'s, or is at least on level.
When both teams in a game start consistently scoring over 110 points I\'ll say you have the beginnings of an argument.
The defensively minded game that has been around for the past decade is the reason the NBA lost so many fans. When teams are consistently shooting under 50% the entertainment value plummets. Now that there are some actual scorers in the NBA again things are looking up.
i blame pat riley\'s knicks
Don\'t knock the 80s/90s knicks. that was my team. Ewing, Starks hitting bricks....man, takes me back to middle school/high school years. God, how that team disappointed me.
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They\'ll take game 7, but I doubt they\'ll get much further than that.
i think they can beat the magic. it took them 6 games to beat philly. and i think chicago might actually be good. no way they\'re beating the cavs though
I agree, they\'ll beat the magic. However, i think if the Cavs beat them, they\'ll go out fighting. They\'ll get hungrier the further they go......
well, first the celts have to win tonight
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Post by: jocelyn on May 02, 2009, 09:57:18 am
Totally. What they need to do is get more points than the other team.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 02, 2009, 11:09:24 am
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Totally. What they need to do is get more points than the other team.
exactly.
its too bad john madden retired
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 04, 2009, 09:31:43 am
It\'s Monday morning, and nobody has commented about Saturday\'s Game 7? Where\'s all of the Celtic pride?
You know it was a great series when a Game 7 that was a three-point game midway through the fourth quarter is considered anticlimactic. The Bulls turned into a bunch of gunners once they got down by double digits, and while you\'re not going to take the Celtics to a Game 7 without a few lucky shots, you can\'t count on a whole quarter\'s worth of them. Meanwhile, the quintessential gunner, Eddie House, had the game of his life.
And by the way, shame on all of us for actually buying the media hype that the Celtics are done without Kevin Garnett, even though they have two Hall of Famers and the best point guard in the NBA on the court. Of course, Joakim Noah isn\'t Dwight Howard, but don\'t sleep on the C-Words in round two.
And by the way, if you told me at the beginning of the season that Stefan Marbury (possibly the worst player in the NBA) and John Salmons (possibly the worst starter in the NBA) would be on the court in the fourth quarter of a Game 7, I would guess that the final score of that game would be somewhere around 110-65.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: FrankZappa on May 04, 2009, 09:58:26 am
kingsley, I was just thinking about you the other day. where the hell you been the last few months? still working with the volleyball team?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 04, 2009, 01:46:31 pm
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Stefan Marbury (possibly the worst player in the NBA) .
Marbury has been worthless for the Celtics.
Some other notes:
Noah looks/acts like a ghetto rat. I hate those angry-dopey faces Perkins makes. Big Baby is a big chunk of meat, weird to see someone that thick running up and down court all game (though he has been getting the job done quite well all series long). Ben Gordon looks like a total prick - I hate hearing guys like that getting interviewed. Rondo has been a scrappy little prick; surprising because he looks like an innocent teenager out there.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 04, 2009, 02:02:09 pm
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It\'s Monday morning, and nobody has commented about Saturday\'s Game 7? Where\'s all of the Celtic pride?
You know it was a great series when a Game 7 that was a three-point game midway through the fourth quarter is considered anticlimactic. The Bulls turned into a bunch of gunners once they got down by double digits, and while you\'re not going to take the Celtics to a Game 7 without a few lucky shots, you can\'t count on a whole quarter\'s worth of them. Meanwhile, the quintessential gunner, Eddie House, had the game of his life.
And by the way, shame on all of us for actually buying the media hype that the Celtics are done without Kevin Garnett, even though they have two Hall of Famers and the best point guard in the NBA on the court. Of course, Joakim Noah isn\'t Dwight Howard, but don\'t sleep on the C-Words in round two.
All the celtic fans are quiet because their team ESCAPED from the first round and did not look like the Championship team they\'re supposed to be.
The media hype was spot on Drew. The Bulls took them to 7 games AND an NBA Playoff record 4 games to OT(one being 2 OT and another 3 OT). Of course the celts were supposed to win in the first round even w/o KG they were the 2nd seed in the East. However they were not supposed to have to go through that and the celts are an old team. The celtics are done.
BTW Congrats to Lebron James as he won the MVP.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 04, 2009, 02:18:08 pm
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All the celtic fans are quiet because their team ESCAPED from the first round and did not look like the Championship team they\'re supposed to be..
I\'m pretty sure this is a:
:cough: Wolfman :cough:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 04, 2009, 02:25:26 pm
celts kick ass.
magic will lose.
lebron is the man.
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 04, 2009, 02:32:09 pm
Leith: Lakers vs. Cavs - who\'s gonna win?
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Post by: leith on May 04, 2009, 02:38:38 pm
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Leith: Lakers vs. Cavs - who\'s gonna win?
You\'re fucking kidding right?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 04, 2009, 02:45:14 pm
oh how funny it would be if neither of them made it to the finals
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2009, 02:58:00 pm
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It\'s Monday morning, and nobody has commented about Saturday\'s Game 7? Where\'s all of the Celtic pride?
You know it was a great series when a Game 7 that was a three-point game midway through the fourth quarter is considered anticlimactic. The Bulls turned into a bunch of gunners once they got down by double digits, and while you\'re not going to take the Celtics to a Game 7 without a few lucky shots, you can\'t count on a whole quarter\'s worth of them. Meanwhile, the quintessential gunner, Eddie House, had the game of his life.
And by the way, shame on all of us for actually buying the media hype that the Celtics are done without Kevin Garnett, even though they have two Hall of Famers and the best point guard in the NBA on the court. Of course, Joakim Noah isn\'t Dwight Howard, but don\'t sleep on the C-Words in round two.
All the celtic fans are quiet because their team ESCAPED from the first round and did not look like the Championship team they\'re supposed to be.
Hey, Leith, your lakers aren\'t in the finals, yet.....remember that....;)
I wasn\'t quiet, just busy this weekend. We didn\'t get to watch the game on Saturday , but we were keeping track of scores at our after shower bonfire....it definitely was a perfect addition to an awesome day for me. :)
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oh how funny it would be if neither of them made it to the finals
We\'d be hearing crickets in this thread then...
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on May 04, 2009, 03:16:56 pm
Nba = Boring!!!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 04, 2009, 03:18:08 pm
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Leith: Lakers vs. Cavs - who\'s gonna win?
You\'re fucking kidding right?
CAVs in 6? :duck:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2009, 10:34:43 pm
the game tonight gave me heartburn i think. Horrible horrible performance from the celtics. piss poor for the defending champs. they came from behind, and i thought they were going to pull it off...but alas...no....
If they are going to beat orlando, ray allen needs to have more than 9 points in a game.
but i have faith they will win game 2.....
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Post by: leith on May 04, 2009, 10:42:46 pm
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the game tonight gave me heartburn i think. Horrible horrible performance from the celtics. piss poor for the defending champs. they came from behind, and i thought they were going to pull it off...but alas...no....
If they are going to beat orlando, ray allen needs to have more than 9 points in a game.
but i have faith they will win game 2.....
Why? Because they\'ll be hungrier and want it more than the Magic?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Igziabeher on May 04, 2009, 10:48:11 pm
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the game tonight gave me heartburn i think. Horrible horrible performance from the celtics. piss poor for the defending champs. they came from behind, and i thought they were going to pull it off...but alas...no....
If they are going to beat orlando, ray allen needs to have more than 9 points in a game.
but i have faith they will win game 2.....
Why? Because they\'ll be hungrier and want it more than the Magic?
either that or ray allen will surely play better, and orlando\'s extra 2 days of rest is no longer an issue. they were clearly off their game in the first half, and coming from a 7 game series w/ 7 overtimes, who blames them?
how the padres lookin this year, leith?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 04, 2009, 10:53:56 pm
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the game tonight gave me heartburn i think. Horrible horrible performance from the celtics. piss poor for the defending champs. they came from behind, and i thought they were going to pull it off...but alas...no....
If they are going to beat orlando, ray allen needs to have more than 9 points in a game.
but i have faith they will win game 2.....
Why? Because they\'ll be hungrier and want it more than the Magic?
either that or ray allen will surely play better, and orlando\'s extra 2 days of rest is no longer an issue. they were clearly off their game in the first half, and coming from a 7 game series w/ 7 overtimes, who blames them?
how the padres lookin this year, leith?
Yeah I was just giving her a little guff. She\'s decided to jump in the thread so....
As for the Padres, just like every year looking like shit. Peavy has not been coming through, wait nice try hijack king.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2009, 11:37:09 pm
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the game tonight gave me heartburn i think. Horrible horrible performance from the celtics. piss poor for the defending champs. they came from behind, and i thought they were going to pull it off...but alas...no....
If they are going to beat orlando, ray allen needs to have more than 9 points in a game.
but i have faith they will win game 2.....
Why? Because they\'ll be hungrier and want it more than the Magic?
either that or ray allen will surely play better, and orlando\'s extra 2 days of rest is no longer an issue. they were clearly off their game in the first half, and coming from a 7 game series w/ 7 overtimes, who blames them?
Ray usually follows a really bad game with a really good one. i definitely think orlando\'s extra 2 days of rest also helped them.
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Yeah I was just giving her a little guff. She\'s decided to jump in the thread so....
Don\'t worry, Leith. I can take it ;)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 05, 2009, 01:22:07 am
Well the rust of sitting for a week really showed tonight. 2/17 from 3 pt range.
Brooks ran Fisher into the ground. That kid was everywhere faster than everyone else all night.
Oh well I figured this would go 6 so the Rockets got one of the two they\'ll get.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 05, 2009, 11:19:25 am
Odom did nothing. Pau did less. Kobe had one good spurt. Yao was the best player on the court. Lakers in 5.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 05, 2009, 11:23:54 am
celtics were tired. amazing comeback, if they wound up winning that, i would be fully confident that the magic are going down.
ray and paul need to at least have 20+ point games each and they will win. if not, it don\'t look good.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 05, 2009, 11:26:34 am
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ray and paul need to at least have 20+ point games each and they will win. if not, it don\'t look good.
Definitely agreed. I felt like Ray was throwing up bricks last night... i felt myself cringing....
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Post by: Vassillios on May 05, 2009, 11:27:22 am
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ray and paul need to at least have 20+ point games each and they will win. if not, it don\'t look good.
Definitely agreed. I felt like Ray was throwing up bricks last night... i felt myself cringing....
ugh. he\'s either way on or way off.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: kartoon42 on May 05, 2009, 11:28:06 am
considering how aweful the celts played, to be in it at the end after trailing by like 26, a moral victory. def hungover from the bulls series. unless lebron gets injured no ones beating them in the eastern conference
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Post by: Vassillios on May 05, 2009, 11:34:27 am
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unless lebron gets injured no ones beating them in the eastern conference
:hehehe:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 05, 2009, 11:35:46 pm
Why does Ben Wallace earn close to $15 million? His stats do not justify anything near that figure.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Igziabeher on May 06, 2009, 10:26:05 pm
defense?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 07, 2009, 01:26:20 am
Kobe off the glass to himself and SCORE!!!
What a game.
Derek taking Scola out was just awesome. Artest melting down was even better and Wafer being sent to the showers for jabbing w/ Adelman damn that\'s cool.
5 technicals and 2 ejections.
Whew! This series is gonna be fun to watch!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 07, 2009, 02:54:21 am
Artest would be in prison if not for the NBA.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 07, 2009, 11:55:45 am
Well, the Celtics redeemed themselves.
Sort of.
They won, but the majority of the team didn\'t have it together. EXCEPT Eddie House coming out of nowhere and carrying this game. Allen, a little better. Which makes me believe we\'ll see a stand out game from him in Game 3. He\'s working up to it.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 07, 2009, 12:12:34 pm
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Well, the Celtics redeemed themselves.
Sort of.
They won, but the majority of the team didn\'t have it together. EXCEPT Eddie House coming out of nowhere and carrying this game. Allen, a little better. Which makes me believe we\'ll see a stand out game from him in Game 3. He\'s working up to it.
yeah all you have to do is slap eddie house in the back of the head and he\'ll have the best game ever.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on May 07, 2009, 12:23:56 pm
holy shitballs kobe was off his rocker last night
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 07, 2009, 12:51:13 pm
Easily one of the best postseason performances of Kobe\'s career. And it also didn\'t hurt that the Lakers actually hit their three\'s. Fisher gets ejected for being a veteran who sticks up for his teammate. Artest gets ejected for being Artest.
Yay Pau. Fuck Yao. Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 07, 2009, 01:09:29 pm
how many points did kobe have?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: kartoon42 on May 08, 2009, 11:33:12 am
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Why does Ben Wallace earn close to $15 million? His stats do not justify anything near that figure.
its still his old contract from when he was one of the better big men in the league, now he\'s garbage
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 09, 2009, 01:33:46 am
Cavs looking reeeeeeeal good. Nuggets looking like they want some of the Lakers in the Western Finals. Magic looking good against a tired celtic team and The Lakers are just starting to rev the engine.
I said Lakers in 6 against Houston but I now agree w/ Pitchie Lakers in 5.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 09, 2009, 12:30:12 pm
When Farmar hit the deck to snag that loose ball, which led to a Lakers\' basket, you had to have a great feeling about the way that game was gonna go.
Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 09, 2009, 01:32:19 pm
It\'s pretty simple what happened to the Celts last night. Orlando out shot them. Plain and simple.
We\'ll see what happens tomorrow...not nervous yet....they are only behind 2-1.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 09, 2009, 02:36:14 pm
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It\'s pretty simple what happened to the Celts last night. Orlando out shot them. Plain and simple.
We\'ll see what happens tomorrow...not nervous yet....they are only behind 2-1.
Uh Duh!
Down 2-1 and getting worn out and more tired each game. To not be worried about the celts after watching that game is ludicrous and myopic.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 09, 2009, 05:32:14 pm
What was up with Perkins throwing an elbow away from the ball? What an idiot.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 09, 2009, 10:39:36 pm
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It\'s pretty simple what happened to the Celts last night. Orlando out shot them. Plain and simple.
We\'ll see what happens tomorrow...not nervous yet....they are only behind 2-1.
Uh Duh!
Down 2-1 and getting worn out and more tired each game. To not be worried about the celts after watching that game is ludicrous and myopic.
I still think they have the heart to win this series. Tomorrow\'s game will tell the true tale. If they lose tomorrow, that\'s it. Its dunzo.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 11, 2009, 09:31:52 am
So a team finally decides to force somebody who isn\'t a future Hall-of-Famer to hit a big shot.. and Glen Davis delivers twice. The Celtics have reclaimed home-court advantage for the rest of the series, and it\'s pretty tough for me to pick against them right now. Celtics in 7, but, with playoff experience behind them, the Magic will join the Bulls in 2009-10 as the most dangerous teams in the Eastern Conference playoffs.
And out west, I am very impressed with the Rockets. They had a choice to turn the loss of Yao Ming into either motivation or an excuse to mail it in, and they went with motivation. Regardless, Lakers in 6.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 11, 2009, 09:34:02 am
Big Baby
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 11, 2009, 09:58:54 am
In keeping with the theme of one of the most hideously officiated series in NBA history, the refs should have given commentator Mark Jackson a technical for his use of the word \'Ba-dow\' (if that\'s how it\'s spelled) during yesterday\'s broadcast. I wish it was Jackson who didn\'t show up for Game 4 when unfortunately it was the Lakers.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 11, 2009, 01:02:50 pm
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So a team finally decides to force somebody who isn\'t a future Hall-of-Famer to hit a big shot.. and Glen Davis delivers twice. The Celtics have reclaimed home-court advantage for the rest of the series, and it\'s pretty tough for me to pick against them right now. Celtics in 7, but, with playoff experience behind them, the Magic will join the Bulls in 2009-10 as the most dangerous teams in the Eastern Conference playoffs.
Totally agree. I think both teams will be ones to look out for next season. Celtics again, proving people wrong. Including myself. When i begin to doubt, they give me a win. I knew they still had the heart to win this series. I totally love how as the defending champs, they are still the underdogs. You also have to love how the celts have a cast of characters, that anyone of that bench can come through in the clutch.
Definitely Celts in 7.
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In keeping with the theme of one of the most hideously officiated series in NBA history, the refs should have given commentator Mark Jackson a technical for his use of the word \'Ba-dow\' (if that\'s how it\'s spelled) during yesterday\'s broadcast. I wish it was Jackson who didn\'t show up for Game 4 when unfortunately it was the Lakers.
You shouldn\'t expect much from a former Knick. It\'s not like that team was known for their articulate nature. Just be glad it isn\'t Ewing or Oakley.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on May 12, 2009, 10:37:23 pm
thats what i call a come back. eat a d leith !!!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 12, 2009, 11:03:44 pm
lets do it in 6 boyz
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 12, 2009, 11:15:15 pm
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thats what i call a come back. eat a d leith !!!
Ray Allen can struggle an entire game, but then turn around and score the shot that counts. He saved the day with like 1:20 seconds remaining.
Can\'t wait for thursdays game...
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Post by: leith on May 13, 2009, 01:52:54 am
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thats what i call a come back. eat a d leith !!!
:lol: Yeah whatever.
Where the fuck have you been for the rest of this series?
Hiding and taking front runner lessons from Wolfman obviously.
Now that they finally have a lead in this series you come out and tell me to eat a d?
Yeah OK fucktard.
Lakers won by 40 tonight finally showing interest in this Championship Run.
Go Lakers! Fuck the celtics!
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Post by: Spacey on May 13, 2009, 07:18:36 am
Celtics will get to the East Championship but I do not see them getting past the Cavalier\'s.
Gonna be Kobe vs. James in the Finals.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on May 13, 2009, 09:13:10 am
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Celtics will get to the East Championship but I do not see them getting past the Cavalier\'s.
Gonna be Kobe vs. James in the Finals.
try paul pierce vs. shane battier
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 13, 2009, 09:28:16 am
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Celtics will get to the East Championship but I do not see them getting past the Cavalier\'s.
Gonna be Kobe vs. James in the Finals.
try paul pierce vs. shane battier
try turkoglu vs. birdman
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on May 13, 2009, 09:30:38 am
Try who gives a shit... Interesting basketball ended in March...
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 13, 2009, 09:33:17 am
Who was that knocking down all those 4th quarter shots? A little narrow to be Rondo... Too tall to be House... Def not Baby... Holy Dog Shit Private Pile! It\'s Stephon Marbury! Did this guy find his game again? Is it a fluke? Who cares? The Celtics have held up far better w/o Garnett than I could have expected. House- 31pts, Davis- 21 pts + a buzzer beating game winner, Marbury- 12 4thQ comeback points? They\'ve made it fun. Heart of a champion. They might not be the favs this year, but not going down without a fight.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 13, 2009, 09:41:34 am
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Try who gives a shit... Interesting basketball ended in March...
it\'s your loss man. i agree that the nba\'s regular season is generally a real bore. but for the last few years, the playoffs have been pretty good. it\'s a new age in the nba right now. there are a lot of good stories and a lot of likable stars. i don\'t think i could have said that for the five years or so after the lockout
maybe if the nets weren\'t terrible, you\'d be a little more interested...
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 13, 2009, 09:53:15 am
Quote from: Yoda;230231
Try who gives a shit... Interesting basketball ended in March...
I would agree in most years, but the NBA playoffs are the best that they have been in years, and the 2009 NCAA Tournament was the worst one in recent memory. I\'ll take the Celtics pulling wins out of their ass, LeBron James being unstoppable, Kobe Bryant vs. Shane Battier, and everybody sleeping on the Nuggets instead of one game from the Elite Eight and beyond being decided by fewer than seven points (three possessions).
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 13, 2009, 11:32:02 am
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Try who gives a shit... Interesting basketball ended in March...
I would agree in most years, but the NBA playoffs are the best that they have been in years, and the 2009 NCAA Tournament was the worst one in recent memory. I\'ll take the Celtics pulling wins out of their ass, LeBron James being unstoppable, Kobe Bryant vs. Shane Battier, and everybody sleeping on the Nuggets instead of one game from the Elite Eight and beyond being decided by fewer than seven points (three possessions).
2009 NCAA was almost a yawn fest.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 13, 2009, 12:22:05 pm
Boy that was fun. Lakers were up 30 and I still wanted more. And I got it. Anytime a player--in this case Trevor Ariza--steals an inbounds pass and turns it into a reverse lay-up already up 36 points, you know it\'s your night.
Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 13, 2009, 03:39:41 pm
This postseason is the first time I really had the chance to see Dwight Howard. He is pretty useless on offense unless he has a sure thing dunk or layup. I expected more of a beast like that.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 13, 2009, 04:48:20 pm
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This postseason is the first time I really had the chance to see Dwight Howard. He is pretty useless on offense unless he has a sure thing dunk or layup. I expected more of a beast like that.
But a "sure thing" dunk for Dwight Howard covers a pretty wide spectrum of offense. He\'s also got a decent hook shot from 10 feet and in.
He\'s one of the few that made an absolutely correct decision (from a basketball standpoint) to come to the NBA straight out of high school.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on May 14, 2009, 09:45:24 pm
fucking TORTURE. :no:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 14, 2009, 09:47:56 pm
What a shitty game, I should have turned it off a long time ago. Both teams sucking, the Celtics a little less so until the last couple minutes.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 14, 2009, 10:27:50 pm
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What a shitty game, I should have turned it off a long time ago. Both teams sucking, the Celtics a little less so until the last couple minutes.
Did you at least change your mind about Dwight Howard? 23 points and 22 boards (10 offensive) in an elimination game.
As good as Rondo and Pierce have been, and as surprisingly good as the role players have been, it is very clear that Ray Allen needs to shoot well early for the C-words to be successful.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 17, 2009, 01:07:13 pm
You know. Not for nothing, but I\'m sick of this fuckin\' shit. I\'m sick of looking at the Houston Rockets. I\'m sick of punk-ass bitch Ron Artest. I\'m sick of Aaron Brooks and Luis Scola hitting every shot. I\'m sick of the gatdamn technicals for sneezing and I\'m sick of listening to Marc Jackson basically say that the Lakers are done.
Now, all this said, I\'m sick of my own team, my beloved Lakers\' half-assed defense and lack of toughness, especially on the road. But they ain\'t on the road today. They in L.A. And everything that happened before don\'t mean shit. It\'s a one-game season. Win this game. Worry about the next series later.
I\'m sick of this fuckin\' shit!
GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 17, 2009, 01:28:52 pm
tonight\'s the night for the celtics....let\'s see what kind of nail biter this one turns in to....
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Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 02:30:48 pm
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You know. Not for nothing, but I\'m sick of this fuckin\' shit. I\'m sick of looking at the Houston Rockets. I\'m sick of punk-ass bitch Ron Artest. I\'m sick of Aaron Brooks and Luis Scola hitting every shot. I\'m sick of the gatdamn technicals for sneezing and I\'m sick of listening to Marc Jackson basically say that the Lakers are done.
Now, all this said, I\'m sick of my own team, my beloved Lakers\' half-assed defense and lack of toughness, especially on the road. But they ain\'t on the road today. They in L.A. And everything that happened before don\'t mean shit. It\'s a one-game season. Win this game. Worry about the next series later.
I\'m sick of this fuckin\' shit!
GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 17, 2009, 04:37:14 pm
Well, the Lakers didn\'t show up until the second quarter...
Fortunately for them, it\'s halftime and the Rockets still haven\'t arrived.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Gfunk on May 17, 2009, 06:38:55 pm
Go Celts !
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 09:32:47 pm
Lakers won by 19 which was totally no surprise. Onto hosting the West Finals against Denver as I thought they would.
Now for the Magic to keep up the way they played in the 1st half and put the celtics away. Please?
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Post by: Igziabeher on May 17, 2009, 10:12:42 pm
you got your wish, leith.
the difference between this game and every other celtics game 7 in the past 2 years is paul pierce not taking charge and leading the team to a win. 8 minutes, who knows what can happen.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 17, 2009, 10:52:15 pm
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The West is pretty tied up under The Lakers but I think the Nuggets will rise up to face The Lakers in the West Finals.
While Orlando/Cleveland would be stellar and seems likely for the East Finals.
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tonight\'s the night for the celtics....let\'s see what kind of nail biter this one turns in to....
well if you meant it\'s the celtics night to shit the bed well yeah you were right. nail biter not much of one.
Picked the wrong time to jump on board. See ya earlier next year?
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fucking TORTURE. :no:
Sleep well my friend.
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Post by: Gfunk on May 18, 2009, 12:11:45 am
:sadban:
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 18, 2009, 12:15:46 am
i\'m taking some Tums and going to bed. Celtics gave me heartburn. What a piss poor performance by the defending champs and now they can\'t even defend their title. somebody look up the stats on the last time a defending team got bumped out in such a massacre sort of way. Ugh. Awful. At least when the Knicks of the 90s choked, they choked at the actual finals.
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tonight\'s the night for the celtics....let\'s see what kind of nail biter this one turns in to....
well if you meant it\'s the celtics night to shit the bed well yeah you were right. nail biter not much of one.
Picked the wrong time to jump on board. See ya earlier next year?
Yes, you will. But I seriously think i will go back to my childhood loyalty of the Knicks after this performance. And we all know how much the Knicks suck, so that doesn\'t say much. I feel the worst for my 10 year old cousin, who will have to feel embarrassed to wear his celtics jersey to school now. Great job on crushing a little boy\'s heart, bastards.
my prediction: CAVS win it all.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: bezerker on May 18, 2009, 12:16:39 am
mylife.com
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on May 18, 2009, 09:13:11 am
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i\'m taking some Tums and going to bed. Celtics gave me heartburn. What a piss poor performance by the defending champs and now they can\'t even defend their title. somebody look up the stats on the last time a defending team got bumped out in such a massacre sort of way. Ugh. Awful. At least when the Knicks of the 90s choked, they choked at the actual finals.
Not sure that you can do an exact comparison, but if you\'re looking for defending champions that don\'t make it to the finals, it has happened quite often. The Celtics have done it 4 times previous to this year:
47-48 Baltimore Bullets, 49-50 Minneapolis Lakers, 50-51 Rochester Royals, 53-54 Minneapolis Lakers, 54-55 Syracuse Nationals, 55-56 Philadephia Warriors, 57-58 St. Louis Hawks, 65-66 Boston Celtics, 66-67 Philadephia 76ers, 68-69 Boston Cetlics, 69-70 New York Knicks, 70-71 Milwaukee Bucks, 72-73 New York Knicks, 73-74 Boston Cetlics, 76-77 Portland Trail Blazers, 78-79 Seattle SuperSonics, 79-80 LA Lakers, 80-81 Boston Celtics, 82-83 Philadelphia 76ers, 84-85 LA Lakers, 89-90 Detroit Pistons, 92-93 Chicago Bulls, 94-95 Houston Rockets, 97-98 Chicago Bulls, 98-99 San Antonio Spurs, 01-02 LA Lakers, 02-03 San Antonio Spurs, 04-05 San Antonio Spurs, 05-06 Miami Heat, 06-07 San Antonio Sprurs, 07-08 Boston Celtics
Does your cousin feel embarrased or are you assuming that? I feel bad for actual fans, but I don\'t feel bad for people that became #1 fans after they won it all last year.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 18, 2009, 09:50:30 am
Recently:
The Heat won the NBA Title in 2006, then got swept out of the first round by the sixth-seeded Bulls in 2007.
The defending champion Spurs dropped a game seven at home in 2006.
The Lakers were eliminated at home by San Antonio by a game six score 110-82 as defending champions in 2003.
Shit happens.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 18, 2009, 10:27:28 am
The Celtics didn\'t have their whole team the entire playoffs. I think they did really well for what they had. Beating the Bulls was huge, considering every one of those games was so close. It would have been nice to beat the Magic but there is no way they would have been able to take on Lebron without KG and Powe. Huge stepups from Big Baby and Rondo throughout the playoffs. I\'m proud of the boys.
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 18, 2009, 10:48:44 am
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The Celtics didn\'t have their whole team the entire playoffs. I think they did really well for what they had. Beating the Bulls was huge, considering every one of those games was so close. It would have been nice to beat the Magic but there is no way they would have been able to take on Lebron without KG and Powe. Huge stepups from Big Baby and Rondo throughout the playoffs. I\'m proud of the boys.
Agreed. Great effort from the young guys. I\'m glad to see they didn\'t give up when KG went down.
I also have to agree with those in this thread who said what a great time it is for the NBA. Looking forward to the Conference Finals in each side quite a bit.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 18, 2009, 10:51:56 am
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Does your cousin feel embarrased or are you assuming that? I feel bad for actual fans, but I don\'t feel bad for people that became #1 fans after they won it all last year.
I assume he is. i remember how it was to be his age and love a team. He lives up on the RI/MA border so he is a big celts fan. And he\'s a big UCONN fan. Most of my family are celtics fans...i always cheered for the Knicks... but got into the Celts after Ray Allen ended up there cause he was one of my favs at UCONN.
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The Celtics didn\'t have their whole team the entire playoffs. I think they did really well for what they had. Beating the Bulls was huge, considering every one of those games was so close. It would have been nice to beat the Magic but there is no way they would have been able to take on Lebron without KG and Powe. Huge stepups from Big Baby and Rondo throughout the playoffs. I\'m proud of the boys.
I am proud and not proud. A team shouldn\'t depend on one or two guys. Their bench needs to be deep. And they have a deep one. it just depends on what night you get them. I am disappointed because I think they should have at least gotten to the Eastern Conference finals. I knew they couldn\'t win it all without KG, but i thought they\'d at least get half way.....
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 18, 2009, 11:10:38 am
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The Celtics didn\'t have their whole team the entire playoffs. I think they did really well for what they had. Beating the Bulls was huge, considering every one of those games was so close. It would have been nice to beat the Magic but there is no way they would have been able to take on Lebron without KG and Powe. Huge stepups from Big Baby and Rondo throughout the playoffs. I\'m proud of the boys.
In the span of two weeks, I became a huge fan and then a big detractor of Kendrick Perkins. No doubt, he is a great role player to have behind KG and Powe, but I now feel like his all-star efforts are definitely an aberration.
The Celtics, as a team, have nothing to be ashamed of. Certain players can definitely look at certain individual performances and get a little pissed, but, as I\'ve said before, Boston took an excuse to mail it in (KG\'s injury), and turned into motivation to overachieve.
Give KG back to the C-Words and Jameer Nelson to the Magic, and let\'s play this series again next season.
And to be fair, let\'s also see the Spurs with Ginobli and a healthier Tim Duncan, and the Rockets with T-Mac and Yao.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 18, 2009, 11:50:36 am
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Give KG back to the C-Words and Jameer Nelson to the Magic, and let\'s play this series again next season.
good chance that will happen. unless the bulls make a run, which they most certainly will not, once gordo gets his money. to think they had a chance at kobe...
either way, all they\'ll be playing for is a chance to lose to the lebrons for as long as he\'s healthy (and it won\'t matter what team he\'s on)
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Post by: Igziabeher on May 18, 2009, 12:24:56 pm
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I assume he is. i remember how it was to be his age and love a team. He lives up on the RI/MA border so he is a big celts fan.
where on the RI/MA border?
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 18, 2009, 12:34:15 pm
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I assume he is. i remember how it was to be his age and love a team. He lives up on the RI/MA border so he is a big celts fan.
where on the RI/MA border?
I\'d be surprised if you\'ve ever heard of it, but a small little town called Burrilville. Half my family lives there.....
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Igziabeher on May 18, 2009, 12:36:23 pm
I know Burriville. when you live in a small town no one ever heard of on the MA/RI border, you tend to know the other small towns no one has ever heard of in the area.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 18, 2009, 12:38:23 pm
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I know Burriville. when you live in a small town no one ever heard of on the MA/RI border, you tend to know the other small towns no one has ever heard of in the area.
dude, then you definitely know what spring lake is. I spent many a summer day there growing up. I used to live with my RI family in the summers....
What town are you from?
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 18, 2009, 12:55:50 pm
Andrew Bynum has a better offensive game than Kobe? The Rockets held to 70? 21 and 18 from Pau? Lakers completely dominate from wire to wire? Well, maybe I didn\'t expect all those things to happen, but I did expect a win and that\'s exactly what we got. And hey, even Sasha remembered how to find the bottom of the net. Go Lakers!
By the way, if the Lakers-Nuggets series goes 7, it will be opposite Phish at Fenway, thus continuing my lifelong trend of marquee sporting events and concerts coinciding. Don\'t see that happening though. Lakers in 5.
As far as the Celtics, we all knew the chance of them getting back to the finals was remote with no Garnett, but seeing as how they got routed in a home Game 7, thus marking the first time the parquet leprechauns have ever squandred a 3-2 lead, you have to pissed as a Celtics\' fan and thrilled as a Lakers\' fan. But hey, at least Pierce stepped up in the big spot. Pfffffttttt........
Cavs in 7.
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 18, 2009, 01:54:52 pm
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As far as the Celtics, we all knew the chance of them getting back to the finals was remote with no Garnett, but seeing as how they got routed in a home Game 7, thus marking the first time the parquet leprechauns have ever squandred a 3-2 lead, you have to pissed as a Celtics\' fan and thrilled as a Lakers\' fan. But hey, at least Pierce stepped up in the big spot. Pfffffttttt........
So, I gather you haven\'t been watching? I\'ll bring you up to speed.
The Lakers looked sloppy and soft against Houston. Denver looks solid, deep, and tough.
If I were a Lakers fan I\'d be concerned with Billups after Fisher and Farmar got abused by Brooks. I also wouldn\'t get too excited about Bynum. He had a few nice games when he was mostly being guarded by 6\'6" Chuck Hayes. Nene and the Birdman are going give him and Gasol hell.
On the upside for LA Kobe\'s got to be thrilled to leave Battier and Artest behind. He\'ll go for 45+ in Game 1.
Denver in 7.
Cleveland in 5.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 18, 2009, 02:12:35 pm
Anybody else watch the ESPN special "kobe doin\' work" this past weekend? it was directed by spike lee.
i didn\'t think it was all that great.. basically it was kobe just doing commentary on a game against the spurs from last year. would\'ve been cooler to see him doing everyday things, rather than just watching a game, which we see him do all the time.
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Post by: leith on May 18, 2009, 02:37:55 pm
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As far as the Celtics, we all knew the chance of them getting back to the finals was remote with no Garnett, but seeing as how they got routed in a home Game 7, thus marking the first time the parquet leprechauns have ever squandred a 3-2 lead, you have to pissed as a Celtics\' fan and thrilled as a Lakers\' fan. But hey, at least Pierce stepped up in the big spot. Pfffffttttt........
So, I gather you haven\'t been watching? I\'ll bring you up to speed.
The Lakers looked sloppy and soft against Houston. Denver looks solid, deep, and tough.
If I were a Lakers fan I\'d be concerned with Billups after Fisher and Farmar got abused by Brooks. I also wouldn\'t get too excited about Bynum. He had a few nice games when he was mostly being guarded by 6\'6" Chuck Hayes. Nene and the Birdman are going give him and Gasol hell.
On the upside for LA Kobe\'s got to be thrilled to leave Battier and Artest behind. He\'ll go for 45+ in Game 1.
Denver in 7.
Cleveland in 5.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Whatever. Lakers will take care of business. No doubt about it. Healthy team and Kobe on a mission. I\'ll take that over Anthony/Billups anyday.
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Anybody else watch the ESPN special "kobe doin\' work" this past weekend? it was directed by spike lee.
i didn\'t think it was all that great.. basically it was kobe just doing commentary on a game against the spurs from last year. would\'ve been cooler to see him doing everyday things, rather than just watching a game, which we see him do all the time.
It was an awesome piece if you\'re a Laker or Kobe fan. It was great to hear him talk about how they do things and how/why he takes certain shots.
Now being a Laker/Kobe fan for years I already knew alot of this stuff but the cool thing was watching the next Laker game and whenever Kobe would do something he talked about in the piece you could totally see it happening in that game.
I loved the unique views from the court and the ability to hear all the chatter. That is not something you see all the time in broadcasts.
Why would you want to see Kobe doing everyday things? That shit is boring even doing them yourself.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 18, 2009, 02:45:24 pm
Kobe: Doin\' Rape?
But like that Nike commercial says, people don\'t like Kobe because of his swagger, his fadeaway and his hunger. That must be it.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 18, 2009, 02:45:41 pm
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As far as the Celtics, we all knew the chance of them getting back to the finals was remote with no Garnett, but seeing as how they got routed in a home Game 7, thus marking the first time the parquet leprechauns have ever squandred a 3-2 lead, you have to pissed as a Celtics\' fan and thrilled as a Lakers\' fan. But hey, at least Pierce stepped up in the big spot. Pfffffttttt........
So, I gather you haven\'t been watching? I\'ll bring you up to speed.
The Lakers looked sloppy and soft against Houston. Denver looks solid, deep, and tough.
If I were a Lakers fan I\'d be concerned with Billups after Fisher and Farmar got abused by Brooks. I also wouldn\'t get too excited about Bynum. He had a few nice games when he was mostly being guarded by 6\'6" Chuck Hayes. Nene and the Birdman are going give him and Gasol hell.
On the upside for LA Kobe\'s got to be thrilled to leave Battier and Artest behind. He\'ll go for 45+ in Game 1.
Denver in 7.
Cleveland in 5.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Whatever. Lakers will take care of business. No doubt about it. Healthy team and Kobe on a mission. I\'ll take that over Anthony/Billups anyday.
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Anybody else watch the ESPN special "kobe doin\' work" this past weekend? it was directed by spike lee.
i didn\'t think it was all that great.. basically it was kobe just doing commentary on a game against the spurs from last year. would\'ve been cooler to see him doing everyday things, rather than just watching a game, which we see him do all the time.
It was an awesome piece if you\'re a Laker or Kobe fan. It was great to hear him talk about how they do things and how/why he takes certain shots.
Now being a Laker/Kobe fan for years I already knew alot of this stuff but the cool thing was watching the next Laker game and whenever Kobe would do something he talked about in the piece you could totally see it happening in that game.
I loved the unique views from the court and the ability to hear all the chatter. That is not something you see all the time in broadcasts.
it was cool to hear him talk... that game wasn\'t the best representation of him though. spike said kobe did the voiceover right after scoring 61 points against the knicks this past winter. too bad they didn\'t capture that game for the documentary.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 18, 2009, 03:23:41 pm
Uh. Yeah. I think I\'ve been watching. I watched the Lakers advance and Celtics fail to. It was pretty fun.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 20, 2009, 12:00:02 am
Lakers need to realize Lebron is not going to let them come back like this and need to get to work now or they\'ll be second best again.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 20, 2009, 08:04:06 am
The Nuggets get outrebounded by nine and lose by two. They can win this series.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 20, 2009, 01:02:50 pm
I hear ya Leith, but I\'ll worry about the Cavs if and when they beat the Magic. Meanwhile, Lakers can\'t look past this Nuggets\' team, which seems far more talented than Houston, and thus need to take the 2-0 lead back to Denver.
But about Game 1, Lakers got out slowly, but unlike their subpar efforts in Houston, showed resilience by rallying down 13 early and down seven late. Outstanding game for Kobe with 18 in the fourth. Fisher gets back in the mix (finally) with some key three\'s. Ariza\'s steal seals it. Well, it should have, but give Billups credit for hitting that fall-away three (even though he had clearly stepped out of bounds). Fouling up three with seconds left could have fucked the Lakers had Denver got an offensive rebound and hit a two or three after the intentionally missed free throw, but alas, Kobe finishes it with the offensive board.
Most thrilling victory of the playoffs yet for a Lakers\' fan.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 20, 2009, 01:47:27 pm
Maybe this isn\'t news to you Celtics\' fans, but I was just doing my yearly "look and the draft from three years ago and see who is officially a bust", and I noticed the following:
The Phoenix Suns drafted Rajon Rondo with the 20th overall pick and traded him to the Celtics for a 2007 first round pick (other players were involved, but that\'s the heart of the deal). Phoenix used that pick to draft Rudy Fernandez, who was dealt on draft day to Portland for cash considerations.
So, while the logic here is far from flawless, the Celtics essentially traded Rudy Fernandez to the Trailblazers for Rajon Rondo. Great job, Phoenix.
I\'m sure most of you could give two shits, but I think looking at drafts in retrospect is far more useful than handing out "draft grades" the next day, before anybody has played a game.
And FYI, Greg Oden has one more year before he becomes a bust.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on May 20, 2009, 02:03:40 pm
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And FYI, Greg Oden has one more year before he becomes a bust.
give the guy a break...he\'s like 55 years old
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Post by: leith on May 20, 2009, 09:14:05 pm
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And FYI, Greg Oden has one more year before he becomes a bust.
give the guy a break...he\'s like 55 years old
:lol:
The Cavs are looking reeeeeal good right now against the Magic. Real Good.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 20, 2009, 10:01:55 pm
cavs in 4. easy
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Post by: leith on May 20, 2009, 11:17:20 pm
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cavs in 4. easy
:lol: Yeah OK we saw what your earlier predictions were.
This has been a great game. The Magic are giving the Cavs their all.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 20, 2009, 11:27:23 pm
Quote from: leith;231191
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cavs in 4. easy
:lol: Yeah OK we saw what your earlier predictions were.
This has been a great game. The Magic are giving the Cavs their all.
whoops!
jinxed it
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 20, 2009, 11:36:21 pm
I watched the first quarter at work then biked home as the Cavs were clearly holdin\' it down. Very surprised to check the final score and see the Cavs down 0-1 at home.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 21, 2009, 03:17:30 am
Google spider bumped the 07-08 NBA thread. Got some laughs re-living the banter in there, specifically Leith posting this anytime the Lakers had a good game:
Quote from: Wolfman;170000
Kobe has no chance of carrying that sorry squad even if he were interested...and he\'s not interested. Too bad the Lakers shit the bed at the exact same time the Celtics got nasty!
rotfl
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 21, 2009, 05:18:53 pm
Wait a minute! Do you mean to tell me that the almighty Cleveland Cavaliers and LeBron "God\'s Gift to Basketball" James aren\'t going to go undefeated throughout the playoffs? You mean, they might actually lose a game now that they aren\'t playing the piece-of-shit Pistons and medicore Hawks? You mean, it takes more to crown a team a champion than having a good regular season? Pfffffffffffffftttttttttttttt................
Certainly no surprise to me.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Gordo on May 21, 2009, 05:27:38 pm
I hope Cleveland\'s loss makes them that much nastier for the rest of the playoffs. I love Lebron, and want to see his team trample LA. Obviously the matchup is far from guaranteed, buuuut.... Regardless, this has shaped into one of the best final fours in recent NBA seasons. Star-power.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 21, 2009, 07:38:35 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;231201
Google spider bumped the 07-08 NBA thread. Got some laughs re-living the banter in there, specifically Leith posting this anytime the Lakers had a good game:
Quote from: Wolfman;170000
Kobe has no chance of carrying that sorry squad even if he were interested...and he\'s not interested. Too bad the Lakers shit the bed at the exact same time the Celtics got nasty!
rotfl
Yeah well if Wolfman wasn\'t such a front running hoo haa we probably would have had the same type of fun banter this year. I may think the guy is a twat but his basketball posts do make me laugh.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 22, 2009, 02:05:18 am
Tough loss for The Lakers. Get one in Denver and it\'s all good.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Igziabeher on May 22, 2009, 07:09:28 am
Quote from: leith;231273
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;231201
Google spider bumped the 07-08 NBA thread. Got some laughs re-living the banter in there, specifically Leith posting this anytime the Lakers had a good game:
Quote from: Wolfman;170000
Kobe has no chance of carrying that sorry squad even if he were interested...and he\'s not interested. Too bad the Lakers shit the bed at the exact same time the Celtics got nasty!
rotfl
Yeah well if Wolfman wasn\'t such a front running hoo haa we probably would have had the same type of fun banter this year. I may think the guy is a twat but his basketball posts do make me laugh.
I love the way you base people\'s devotion on how much they post about their favorite sports team on a MUSIC message board
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 22, 2009, 01:10:09 pm
As Kobe said after last night\'s stinging defeat, there\'s a reason why the Lakers are the best road team in the NBA. They\'ll win Game 3.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: kartoon42 on May 22, 2009, 10:05:19 pm
i really wouldnt mind seeing any of the teams remaining win it all, for different reasons....this coming from a celts fan
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 22, 2009, 11:36:46 pm
WOW LeBron to win! Blew a 23 point lead but came out with the win. Anyone that is not watching the Finals in both conferences is missing some GREAT basketball!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 23, 2009, 10:25:59 am
It\'s amazing what can happen when your best player takes the last shot in the final seconds (sarcastic cough).
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 23, 2009, 11:28:32 pm
What would you rather rely on to win a game:
a.) George Karl drawing up an inbounds play? b.) Hedo Turkoglu single-covering the reigning MVP?
By the end of the playoffs, we will all be so tired of seeing Kobe\'s "mean face" (after hitting a three to put L.A. up 96-95). I wouldn\'t mind so much if I wasn\'t pretty sure he practiced that in the mirror all week.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 24, 2009, 01:05:00 am
I was just trying to recall my great moments in Kobe Bryant history..... and this gem came to mind.
Sorry darling you can\'t do it. The Celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals. Nothing you can post is going to annoy us in the least. I repeat the celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 24, 2009, 10:41:08 am
One of the most excruciating playoff games I\'ve ever watched. And one of the most exciting playoffs victories the Lakers have ever pulled out. Kobe put the team on his back and Ariza jumped aboard. Denver\'s blown its chance.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 24, 2009, 12:15:38 pm
Quote from: leith;231431
I repeat the celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals.
On the way to the finals....
.....to choke again???? ;)
But in all seriousness, all kidding, and teasing aside, good luck to your lakers. No really. Lakers in the finals will be a series to watch....
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Post by: zuke583 on May 24, 2009, 03:28:10 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;231434
Quote from: leith;231431
I repeat the celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals.
On the way to the finals....
.....to choke again???? ;)
But in all seriousness, all kidding, and teasing aside, good luck to your lakers. No really. Lakers in the finals will be a series to watch....
what kind of celtics fan are you?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: wildcoyote on May 24, 2009, 04:50:08 pm
Quote from: zuke583;231441
Quote from: SkyePrizm;231434
Quote from: leith;231431
I repeat the celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals.
On the way to the finals....
.....to choke again???? ;)
But in all seriousness, all kidding, and teasing aside, good luck to your lakers. No really. Lakers in the finals will be a series to watch....
what kind of celtics fan are you?
Seriously.
Ahem.
Found: Footage of Kobe\'s first overnight stay in Denver since... well... you know.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 25, 2009, 12:58:02 am
Quote from: leith;219211
Lakers are just that much better than every other team in the West this year and in the East except for Orlando but if they should meet again, I\'m sure The Lakers will have that figured out.
I hope so.
I wanted the Cavs because all they really have is Lebron as evidenced by this first real test which other than that shot they would be down 3-0, and The Lakers have proven they can beat them.
The Magic are a different story and I was hoping they were not ready but it seems they are.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 25, 2009, 01:48:57 am
Quote from: zuke583;231441
Quote from: SkyePrizm;231434
Quote from: leith;231431
I repeat the celts are out and The Lakers are on their way to the Finals.
On the way to the finals....
.....to choke again???? ;)
But in all seriousness, all kidding, and teasing aside, good luck to your lakers. No really. Lakers in the finals will be a series to watch....
what kind of celtics fan are you?
I am a fan of basketball.
Yes, I\'m sad the Celtics are out....but..doesn\'t mean i dont want an amazing finals to watch....
What kind of basketball fan are you? Stop watching just cause your team is out? Nah, not my style.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 26, 2009, 10:30:35 am
How the hell do the Lakers lose by 19 when Carmelo shoots 3-of-16? By being the Nuggets\' bitch in the paint all night, that\'s how. Still, after stealing one in L.A., Denver had a chance to control the series by taking both at home and failed to do that. Now all the Lakers need to do to gain control is win Game 5 at home, which of course, they will.
And if I have to see another shot of these Denver fans who do up their hair like that doofball Chris Anderson, I am going to fucking throw up.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: kartoon42 on May 26, 2009, 11:05:06 am
im pulling for a magic nuggets finals. this would be hilarious with all the crap about kobe vs lebron, how great would it be if neither one made it
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Igziabeher on May 26, 2009, 12:25:26 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;231515
How the hell do the Lakers lose by 19 when Carmelo shoots 3-of-16? By being the Nuggets\' bitch in the paint all night, that\'s how. Still, after stealing one in L.A., Denver had a chance to control the series by taking both at home and failed to do that. Now all the Lakers need to do to gain control is win Game 5 at home, which of course, they will.
And if I have to see another shot of these Denver fans who do up their hair like that doofball Chris Anderson, I am going to fucking throw up.
Go Lakers!
Lakers should be scared shitless right now. should\'ve lost both games 3 and 4, and now all they have to do is win game 5? get real. both the lakers and cavs are being outmatched by good teams instead of just being a team w/ 1 good player.
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Post by: Gordo on May 26, 2009, 01:20:32 pm
I\'d say LA is still a much better TEAM than Cleveland, with comparable tools to Denver across the board. But Denver looks way hungrier, have even in their losses this series. They (Denver) are more athletic than any team left too, though that doesn\'t always translate to championships. If Smith shows up in LA like he did last night, I\'ll take Denver. Otherwise, I\'ll take Denver. I\'m getting sick of the Lakers and their half-ass-ness every other game. Denver is a lot more exciting to watch.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 26, 2009, 01:41:10 pm
Shitty loss but they really only needed the one game in Denver. I just wish they would get over the "well in a game 7 we have Kobe" mentality which is really getting on my nerves.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Gordo on May 26, 2009, 01:48:31 pm
Quote from: leith;231543
I just wish they would get over the "well in a game 7 we have Kobe" mentality which is really getting on my nerves.
exactly.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 26, 2009, 06:03:24 pm
these nba playoffs have been awesome... every game has been fun to watch
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 26, 2009, 11:50:35 pm
The Eastern Conference Finals have been ridiculous. LeBron James is proving that he is the MVP and also demonstrating why Scottie Pippen should be a Hall of Famer.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 27, 2009, 11:56:39 pm
Tight game until the 4th when The Lakers took control. Kobe played the team game and did not need to score a bunch. I expect another huge game from the nuggets on fri. but if The Lakers can just play big like tonight(ODOM!!!!) the nuggets can\'t handle them. Kobe has also not gone Black Mamba yet so....
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 28, 2009, 01:01:50 pm
Welcome back to the playoffs Lamar Odom.
Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on May 30, 2009, 12:47:31 am
DOMINATION!!!!!! The Lakers kept playing big and started off w/ energy and the team that routed the West in the regular season came back to life.
George Karl in his interview was hilarious. In regards to Kobe: "I don\'t think Jesus could have covered him." " " to Lamar: "Whoever woke up Lamar Odom should be fired." " " to Phil: "I would say he kicked my ass coaching tonight."
The Lakers play like this in the Finals and I don\'t care what Jerry West says Orlando is not beating them. Oh and the Cavs if they somehow survive will not have an answer for the team we saw tonight either.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 30, 2009, 12:26:58 pm
kobe was pretty much on fire
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 30, 2009, 12:43:27 pm
Thank you Lakers for not only once again making it to the NBA Finals, but also for sparing me the anxiety of having to deal with a Game 7 during my first Phish show in five years.
Thank you Kobe for proving that you in fact are the best player in the league as you easily outshined Denver\'s superstar, who proved as soft as a deflated basketball.
Thank you Luke Walton for big minutes off the bench.
Thank you to Denver\'s fans for spending time making your hair into mohawks only to see the curtain fall on your team while they got their ass kicked at home.
Thank you Los Angeles Lakers!
Now win the fucking title!
Go Lakers!
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 30, 2009, 03:15:16 pm
Quote from: leith;232073
The Lakers play like this in the Finals and I don\'t care what Jerry West says Orlando is not beating them. Oh and the Cavs if they somehow survive will not have an answer for the team we saw tonight either.
The Lakers played like champions last night, but playing like that several games in a row has been the problem throughout the playoffs. But still, Kobe has the supporting cast to make sure that his team walks away with the trophy.
Lakers over Orlando in 5 Lakers over Cavs in 6
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Post by: leith on May 30, 2009, 11:50:33 pm
Waaaahhhh! I lost. I don\'t wanna talk about it. LeBron left the building w/o talking to reporters. :lol:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 31, 2009, 12:43:51 am
Heh. Apparently, MVP stands for May Vanish Promptly.
Lakers in 6.
Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 31, 2009, 06:04:48 pm
Let\'s see what mr. howard is made of.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 01, 2009, 09:46:33 am
Definitely a "tactical error" by LeBron to not talk to reporters (and, even worse, to not shake hands with the Magic). I understand where he\'s coming from, and if he was usually a soft-spoken guy, it would be less of an issue. But, as the face of franchise, LeBron needs to be a leader in every circumstance.
The Magic went 3-1 against the Cavs in the regular season, a fact which most people wrote off as erroneous going into the Eastern Conference Finals. So I guess it\'s worth mentioning that Orlando took both meetings with the Lakers in the regular season. Though, in the interest of fairness, Orlando won the two games by a total of nine points and the two teams haven\'t played since January 16.
Should be a competitive series. I feel obligated to stand by my "Lakers in 5" prediction (just in case I\'m right), but I don\'t really believe it anymore.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 04, 2009, 10:59:37 pm
Orlando is over matched. Lakers keep playing like this and the Magic are gonna get swept.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 05, 2009, 07:24:04 am
Your Lakers are nasty and have proved it to me more and more as the Playoffs went on.
Cheers
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Post by: Vassillios on June 05, 2009, 11:06:48 am
That recurring facial expression seen on Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant — called a scowl, but more of a grrrrr — has to be the most rehearsed demonstration of passion ever perpetrated on the sporting public. Did you see that scowl once last year during the Boston championship series; once during the Lakers’ three championship seasons; once, just once, in his entire career prior to the last week and a half? Now, all of a sudden he cares so much more, he’s instinctively gritting his teeth?
I don’t think so.
But anyway... this was the turning point between a close series and a sweep. The Magic ran an absolutely perfect play to win the game and couldn\'t cash in. Maybe the Magic steals one in Orlando, but Lakers in 5 if not a sweep.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on June 08, 2009, 11:40:42 am
I used to work with Dave Solomon at the New Haven Register. In our sports deparment\'s fantasy football league, he once traded Marvin Harrison straight-up for Tony Banks. Need I say more?
Oh yeah, I almost shat myself at the end of regulation last night, but it was well worth it.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: leith on June 09, 2009, 11:56:23 pm
Almost pulled it out. Oh well. Enjoy the win Orlando.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on June 10, 2009, 01:00:32 pm
Simply put, a subpar game for Kobe. Now win Game 4.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: SkyePrizm on June 10, 2009, 01:25:42 pm
Fourth Quarter last night was one hell of an entertaining basketball game. Back and forth, back and forth. For awhile there, I didn\'t think Orlando had it in them. And then.....Kobe choked. Wow. he threw up a lot of bricks in those last few minutes, eh??? ;) Leith, I\'m goating you.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 10, 2009, 09:13:28 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233070
Fourth Quarter last night was one hell of an entertaining basketball game. Back and forth, back and forth. For awhile there, I didn\'t think Orlando had it in them. And then.....Kobe choked. Wow. he threw up a lot of bricks in those last few minutes, eh??? ;) Leith, I\'m goating you.
I am so confident The Lakers are going to win, I am not even arguing with actual Orlando fans.
I can take what ever you dish out.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 10, 2009, 11:03:58 pm
Quote from: leith;233127
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233070
Fourth Quarter last night was one hell of an entertaining basketball game. Back and forth, back and forth. For awhile there, I didn\'t think Orlando had it in them. And then.....Kobe choked. Wow. he threw up a lot of bricks in those last few minutes, eh??? ;) Leith, I\'m goating you.
I am so confident The Lakers are going to win, I am not even arguing with actual Orlando fans.
I can take what ever you dish out.
But didn\'t you think that last year vs. the Celtics?
I have this odd feeling that Orlando may give you the same run for your money that the C\'s did last year. Don\'t be tooooo confident...
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 10, 2009, 11:52:28 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233137
Quote from: leith;233127
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233070
Fourth Quarter last night was one hell of an entertaining basketball game. Back and forth, back and forth. For awhile there, I didn\'t think Orlando had it in them. And then.....Kobe choked. Wow. he threw up a lot of bricks in those last few minutes, eh??? ;) Leith, I\'m goating you.
I am so confident The Lakers are going to win, I am not even arguing with actual Orlando fans.
I can take what ever you dish out.
But didn\'t you think that last year vs. the Celtics?
I have this odd feeling that Orlando may give you the same run for your money that the C\'s did last year. Don\'t be tooooo confident...
My feelings on last year\'s Finals were born of confidence in the team\'s growth since Gasol had joined and the belief (misguided as it was) that they could pull it off w/o Bynum.
My confidence this year is strengthened by a healthy Lakers team and the sting/experience of that Finals defeat to spur them on.
That and the fact that the magic played out of their heads shooting 63% for game 3 and still The Lakers almost pulled it out.
Oh and we have seen how your feelings pertaining to Basketball turn out. ;)
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Post by: zuke583 on June 11, 2009, 10:24:26 pm
i fully expect to see kobe do some work in the second half.
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Post by: Vassillios on June 12, 2009, 09:49:27 am
looks like fisher did some work
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Post by: ChrisPitch on June 12, 2009, 11:55:27 am
All I can say is: holy shit Derek Fisher! you may have just saved the Lakers\' season, or at least ruined the Magic\'s.
As clutch as it gets.
And let\'s not forget Trevor Ariza, who guided the initial comeback in the third.
This is gonna be sweet.
Go Lakers!
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Post by: leith on June 12, 2009, 12:54:42 pm
DFish as clutch as it gets and Ariza sparking it all. Not just Kobe and Gasol but a whole team putting in the work where needed. GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: ChrisPitch on June 12, 2009, 02:07:10 pm
Games like that are what make being a sports fan--and the heartbreak which so often accompanies it--completely worthwhile.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on June 12, 2009, 03:55:05 pm
I want to know if Van Gundy made his team watch the game over and over today. Because WOW, they blew it. First off, they totally could have wrapped up the entire game and avoided the OT. Once in OT, their choice of shots....i think middle schoolers could have come up with better plays...why was Turkuglo constantly shooting????????
I have to say Lakers defense...fantastic in that OT. They really shut Orlando out.
I like busting chops about the Lakers, but they deserved that win last night. Orlando was outplayed in those last five minutes.
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Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:38:39 am
Quote from: leith;232807
2 more games to go. The Lakers are coming home for a Victory Parade not more games.
Well they got those 2 and that Parade is Wed.
Fucking hilarious how this all of a sudden "became a series" when they won that one game. :lol:
2008-2009 NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers!
Best franchise in the league by far. 15th championship out of 30 chances. celts have 17 but only been to the finals 20 times.
Kobe has his 1st Finals MVP and the haters can eat a D!
Phil passes Red with his 10th Ring.
WOW what a season!
What a playoff run!
WHAT A CHAMPIONSHIP!!
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Post by: zuke583 on June 15, 2009, 08:31:20 am
Quote from: leith;233444
Best franchise in the league by far.
i\'ll give you best franchise, but the celts aren\'t that far behind. i mean they do have fewer championships than the celts. plus the celtics have been MUCH better in head to head meetings in the championships.
but the lakers deserved it this year. would have been nice to see a healthy celtics team, from an entertainment standpoint. also would have been nice to see the magic not shit the bed completely. enjoy the offseason
they losing anybody during the summer?
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 15, 2009, 08:38:20 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;232109
Lakers over Orlando in 5
(channeling my inner Wolfman)
Are you ser? What a fantastic prediction. For those scoring at home, that was made on 5/30. That\'s before the Eastern Conference Finals were even more. That\'s back when David Carradine was still alive. That\'s back before Phenway. I\'m going to chalk that prediction right up there with Joe Namath and Super Bowl III. I am legend.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Vassillios on June 15, 2009, 10:48:52 am
congrats lakers fans.
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Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2009, 11:40:02 am
Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
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Post by: SkyePrizm on June 15, 2009, 11:50:57 am
Congrats, Lakers fans. You deserve to gloat. Orlando forgot to show up for 95% of this series. You won, fair and square.
........But lets see if you can do it again next year. Celtics will be back..........
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Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:08:52 pm
Quote from: zuke583;233449
Quote from: leith;233444
Best franchise in the league by far.
i\'ll give you best franchise, but the celts aren\'t that far behind. i mean they do have fewer championships than the celts. plus the celtics have been MUCH better in head to head meetings in the championships.
but the lakers deserved it this year. would have been nice to see a healthy celtics team, from an entertainment standpoint. also would have been nice to see the magic not shit the bed completely. enjoy the offseason
they losing anybody during the summer?
The Lakers have been in 50% of the NBA\'s Finals. Name another team that can claim that in any sport. You can\'t.
The Lakers are not losing anyone important to the team. Dr. Buss has handed the team to his son and he hates the celtics more than his pop.
They\'ll spend what they need to.
Great thing about The Lakers that people forget. It\'s a FAMILY organization.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 15, 2009, 12:09:31 pm
Quote from: Spacey;233472
Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:09:58 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;233450
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;232109
Lakers over Orlando in 5
(channeling my inner Wolfman)
Are you ser? What a fantastic prediction. For those scoring at home, that was made on 5/30. That\'s before the Eastern Conference Finals were even more. That\'s back when David Carradine was still alive. That\'s back before Phenway. I\'m going to chalk that prediction right up there with Joe Namath and Super Bowl III. I am legend.
EPIC POST!!!
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Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2009, 12:16:55 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;233478
Quote from: Spacey;233472
Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
I agree that Wooden is the Greatest Basketball Coach of All-Time.
I also believe the Jackson is the best NBA coach, IMO. The victory Yesterday seals his fate as such. Until then he was tied with Auerbach with 9 titles. There is more too it then just titles but they speak for themselves.
Different times, places and players make this an arguable point but to give all the credit to the players is wrong when Jackson is as much of an asset as anyone else. He has turned teams around in the past and brought them to the playoffs many with the same players that the previous coach could not.
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Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:19:09 pm
Phil got Kobe Bryant to pass the ball. Greatest NBA coach EVER!!!
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Post by: SkyePrizm on June 15, 2009, 12:19:12 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;233478
Quote from: Spacey;233472
Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Yeah, I definitely don\'t think Phil is greater than Red or Riley. But i think he\'s up there on the same level.
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Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:20:30 pm
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Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Yeah, I definitely don\'t think Phil is greater than Red or Riley. But i think he\'s up there on the same level.
You\'re wrong. He is.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 15, 2009, 12:22:10 pm
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Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Yeah, I definitely don\'t think Phil is greater than Red or Riley. But i think he\'s up there on the same level.
You\'re wrong. He is.
Nah, he isn\'t. He\'s just had the opportunity to coach people like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Without Jordan on the bulls, Kobe on the Lakers......he\'d have LESS rings.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 15, 2009, 12:25:15 pm
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The Lakers have been in 50% of the NBA\'s Finals. Name another team that can claim that in any sport. You can\'t.
does anyone have the stats on the womens ncaa championships? it\'s only been done a couple dozen years if that long and tennessee and uconn are in there all the time. one of them might be there.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2009, 12:25:32 pm
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Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Yeah, I definitely don\'t think Phil is greater than Red or Riley. But i think he\'s up there on the same level.
You\'re wrong. He is.
Nah, he isn\'t. He\'s just had the opportunity to coach people like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Without Jordan on the bulls, Kobe on the Lakers......he\'d have LESS rings.
You have no idea who Phil Jackson is then.
Where were the Bulls or Lakers before Phil Jackson?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 15, 2009, 12:25:53 pm
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Phil Jackson the greatest basketball coach?
John Wooden is the greatest basketball coach of all-time.
Phil may be the best NBA coach of all-time, but it\'s so tough to say. The most talented team wins it all most of the time in the NBA, especially in the era of seven-game series\' throughout the playoffs. Phil is definitely like Joe Torre in his ability to manage a locker room full of egos, but I don\'t know that he is a hands-down better coach than Red Auerbach, Lenny Wilkins, Pat Riley, Chuck Daly or Larry Brown.
Yeah, I definitely don\'t think Phil is greater than Red or Riley. But i think he\'s up there on the same level.
You\'re wrong. He is.
Nah, he isn\'t. He\'s just had the opportunity to coach people like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Without Jordan on the bulls, Kobe on the Lakers......he\'d have LESS rings.
Before you come out with such bullshit . Know your history. Red had Bill Russell for most of his Championships.
W/O Russell RED HAS AT LEAST 8 LESS RINGS AND THE LAKERS WOULD HAVE MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS THEN THEM.
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Post by: Yoda on June 15, 2009, 12:28:19 pm
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Best franchise in the league by far. 15th championship out of 31 chances. celts have 17 but only been to the finals 20 times.
I think that it\'s a tough debate on this one... I can\'t stand pro ball, so I\'m coming at this from a purely statistical POV...
But if you look at the winning percentage in the finals, the Celtics have an 88% winning percentage while the Lakers have won 50% of their opportunities. I think that you also have to take into consideration the stretch of 13 seasons from 56/57-68/69 where the Cetlics were in all but 1 final and won 11 championships.
I\'m not saying that the Lakers aren\'t the best team in the league, but to say that they are the best team by far is sort of a homer comment.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2009, 12:29:26 pm
Jordan on the Bulls for 5 years prior to Jackson becoming Head Coach.
Bryant with the Lakers for 3 years prior to Jackson becoming Head Coach.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 15, 2009, 12:30:58 pm
Congratulations to the 2009 NBA champions, the Los Angeles Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 15, 2009, 01:08:39 pm
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Before you come out with such bullshit . Know your history. Red had Bill Russell for most of his Championships.
W/O Russell RED HAS AT LEAST 8 LESS RINGS AND THE LAKERS WOULD HAVE MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS THEN THEM.
The flaw here is that we can\'t just erase Bill Russell. In the 1956 Draft, the Celtics ended up with Tommy Heinsohn, Bill Russell and K.C. Jones. Suppose they didn\'t end up with Russell; they could have ended up with Elgin Baylor.
Likewise, what if the Rockets drafted Michael Jordan and the Bulls drafted Hakeem Olajuwon in 1984? Or what if Charles Barkley went to Portland with the No. 2 pick that year?
Also, let\'s say the Charlotte Hornets didn\'t trade Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac on draft day in 1996.
I guess the point is that you can\'t just create an alternate world where every single draft pick, trade and other decision is held constant except for one player being on one team.
Facts are facts. Red had a slew of future Hall of Famers. So did Phil Jackson. So did Pat Riley. Likewise, Jordan had Pippen, Ruth had Gehrig and Abbott had Costello.
This discussion (or any other "greatest of all-time" discussion) is good, healthy conversation, and when it comes to sports, I could do it all day. But we can\'t all pretend that we know the answer.
Oh, and congrats Lakers fans. I don\'t think I\'ve said that yet today.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 15, 2009, 10:13:19 pm
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Before you come out with such bullshit . Know your history. Red had Bill Russell for most of his Championships.
W/O Russell RED HAS AT LEAST 8 LESS RINGS AND THE LAKERS WOULD HAVE MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS THEN THEM.
The flaw here is that we can\'t just erase Bill Russell. In the 1956 Draft, the Celtics ended up with Tommy Heinsohn, Bill Russell and K.C. Jones. Suppose they didn\'t end up with Russell; they could have ended up with Elgin Baylor.
Likewise, what if the Rockets drafted Michael Jordan and the Bulls drafted Hakeem Olajuwon in 1984? Or what if Charles Barkley went to Portland with the No. 2 pick that year?
Also, let\'s say the Charlotte Hornets didn\'t trade Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac on draft day in 1996.
I guess the point is that you can\'t just create an alternate world where every single draft pick, trade and other decision is held constant except for one player being on one team.
Facts are facts. Red had a slew of future Hall of Famers. So did Phil Jackson. So did Pat Riley. Likewise, Jordan had Pippen, Ruth had Gehrig and Abbott had Costello.
This discussion (or any other "greatest of all-time" discussion) is good, healthy conversation, and when it comes to sports, I could do it all day. But we can\'t all pretend that we know the answer.
Oh, and congrats Lakers fans. I don\'t think I\'ve said that yet today.
What a diplomat Mr.Kingsley is!
And to answer Leith and Spacey....yes, I know who Phil Jackson is AND was. Put Phil Jackson in a team with no super star and i want to see him win a ring.
A coach is only as good as his team. (i.e. Pat Riley coaches the Knicks for years and couldn\'t get a ring, because i believe Ewing wasn\'t a true superstar...and i was a huge Knicks fan of that era.....but Riley when he was at the lakers, he had johnson=rings.)
No superstar=no ring.
Doesn\'t take a great coach. Just takes a good coach.
NCAA and NBA are two different things, but i can think of five NCAA coaches that are WAY better than Phil Jackson.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on June 15, 2009, 10:24:27 pm
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i can think of five NCAA coaches that are WAY better than Phil Jackson.
....
(if you say coach k i will punch you in the face)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 16, 2009, 12:57:23 am
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i can think of five NCAA coaches that are WAY better than Phil Jackson.
....
(if you say coach k i will punch you in the face)
No effing way. I hate Duke.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 16, 2009, 01:02:36 am
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Before you come out with such bullshit . Know your history. Red had Bill Russell for most of his Championships.
W/O Russell RED HAS AT LEAST 8 LESS RINGS AND THE LAKERS WOULD HAVE MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS THEN THEM.
The flaw here is that we can\'t just erase Bill Russell. In the 1956 Draft, the Celtics ended up with Tommy Heinsohn, Bill Russell and K.C. Jones. Suppose they didn\'t end up with Russell; they could have ended up with Elgin Baylor.
Likewise, what if the Rockets drafted Michael Jordan and the Bulls drafted Hakeem Olajuwon in 1984? Or what if Charles Barkley went to Portland with the No. 2 pick that year?
Also, let\'s say the Charlotte Hornets didn\'t trade Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac on draft day in 1996.
I guess the point is that you can\'t just create an alternate world where every single draft pick, trade and other decision is held constant except for one player being on one team.
Facts are facts. Red had a slew of future Hall of Famers. So did Phil Jackson. So did Pat Riley. Likewise, Jordan had Pippen, Ruth had Gehrig and Abbott had Costello.
This discussion (or any other "greatest of all-time" discussion) is good, healthy conversation, and when it comes to sports, I could do it all day. But we can\'t all pretend that we know the answer.
Oh, and congrats Lakers fans. I don\'t think I\'ve said that yet today.
What a diplomat Mr.Kinglsey is!
And to answer Leith and Spacey....yes, I know who Phil Jackson is AND was. Put Phil Jackson in a team with no super star and i want to see him win a ring.
A coach is only as good as his team. (i.e. Pat Riley coaches the Knicks for years and couldn\'t get a ring, because i believe Ewing wasn\'t a true superstar...and i was a huge Knicks fan of that era.....but Riley when he was at the lakers, he had johnson=rings.)
No superstar=no ring.
Doesn\'t take a great coach. Just takes a good coach.
NCAA and NBA are two different things, but i can think of five NCAA coaches that are WAY better than Phil Jackson.
Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
DUH!!!!!
Top 10 Head Coaches in NBA History per NBA.COM
Red Auerbach 938 wins 479 losses (.662)
Chuck Daly 638 wins 437 losses (.593)
Bill Fitch 944 wins 1106 losses (.460)
Red Holzman 696 wins 604 losses (.535)
Phil Jackson 1026 wins 431 losses (.704)
John Kundla 423 wins 302 losses (.583)
Don Nelson 1301 wins 996 losses (.566)
Jack Ramsay 864 wins 783 losses (.525)
Pat Riley 1210 wins 694 losses (.636)
Lenny Wilkens 1332 wins 1155 losses (.536)
Only one of those guys has 10 rings as Head Coach.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 16, 2009, 08:51:14 am
I\'m still thinking tennessee and unconn womens have to be pretty high numbers for finals appearences.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 16, 2009, 09:07:45 am
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Before you come out with such bullshit . Know your history. Red had Bill Russell for most of his Championships.
W/O Russell RED HAS AT LEAST 8 LESS RINGS AND THE LAKERS WOULD HAVE MORE CHAMPIONSHIPS THEN THEM.
The flaw here is that we can\'t just erase Bill Russell. In the 1956 Draft, the Celtics ended up with Tommy Heinsohn, Bill Russell and K.C. Jones. Suppose they didn\'t end up with Russell; they could have ended up with Elgin Baylor.
Likewise, what if the Rockets drafted Michael Jordan and the Bulls drafted Hakeem Olajuwon in 1984? Or what if Charles Barkley went to Portland with the No. 2 pick that year?
Also, let\'s say the Charlotte Hornets didn\'t trade Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac on draft day in 1996.
I guess the point is that you can\'t just create an alternate world where every single draft pick, trade and other decision is held constant except for one player being on one team.
Facts are facts. Red had a slew of future Hall of Famers. So did Phil Jackson. So did Pat Riley. Likewise, Jordan had Pippen, Ruth had Gehrig and Abbott had Costello.
This discussion (or any other "greatest of all-time" discussion) is good, healthy conversation, and when it comes to sports, I could do it all day. But we can\'t all pretend that we know the answer.
Oh, and congrats Lakers fans. I don\'t think I\'ve said that yet today.
What a diplomat Mr.Kingsley is!
And to answer Leith and Spacey....yes, I know who Phil Jackson is AND was. Put Phil Jackson in a team with no super star and i want to see him win a ring.
A coach is only as good as his team. (i.e. Pat Riley coaches the Knicks for years and couldn\'t get a ring, because i believe Ewing wasn\'t a true superstar...and i was a huge Knicks fan of that era.....but Riley when he was at the lakers, he had johnson=rings.)
No superstar=no ring.
Doesn\'t take a great coach. Just takes a good coach.
NCAA and NBA are two different things, but i can think of five NCAA coaches that are WAY better than Phil Jackson.
Name the 5 coaches?
What happened to Rick Pitino when he went to the NBA? Great NCAA coach and he failed miserably. Happens in NCAA football as well aka Steve Spurrier.
Just because you excel at the NCAA level does not transfer to success at the NBA level.
There for your 5 NCAA coaches that are way better than Jackson is really moot.
But please, name them.
This is not a knock or anything like that. Did you ever play HS or College sports?
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I\'m still thinking tennessee and unconn womens have to be pretty high numbers for finals appearences.
We are talking NBA not NCAA. I am sure that both teams combined have a nice average.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on June 16, 2009, 09:29:27 am
This is probably an all sports question, but I\'ll ask it here... Why do fans have to riot and loot after a team wins a national championship in a sport? I belive that this happened in LA over the past couple of days. Doesn\'t make any sense to me...
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 16, 2009, 09:36:03 am
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This is probably an all sports question, but I\'ll ask it here... Why do fans have to riot and loot after a team wins a national championship in a sport? I belive that this happened in LA over the past couple of days. Doesn\'t make any sense to me...
Because the world is filled with idiots.
That is the simple answer.
Some will probably say booze or drugs had something to do with it.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 16, 2009, 09:52:33 am
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I\'m still thinking tennessee and unconn womens have to be pretty high numbers for finals appearences.
Not even bringing the NBA into the discussion, the disparity in competition between men\'s and women\'s basketball is so great that they can\'t even be compared. The women\'s NCAA tournament has only been comprised of 64 teams since 1994, and the seeding is regionalized so perennial powerhouses like Tennessee, Connecticut and Stanford are generally only playing a few hours from home until the Final Four. Pat Summitt is a great women\'s basketball coach. But in the same way that you can\'t compare Phil Jackson\'s accomplishments to those of John Wooden, you can\'t compare Pat Summitt\'s accomplishments to either.
But to answer your question, Pat has guided Tennessee to every NCAA Tournament (started in 1982), all but one Regional Semifinal, 18 Final Fours and eight national championships. Geno Auriemma has been to 10 Final Fours with six national championships. Between the two of them, that\'s half of the 28 NCAA Championships, and both coaches get top five recruiting classes every year. Is that a sign of dominance or just an uneven playing field? Other schools are starting to take women\'s basketball more seriously, but they find themselves so far behind the curve that it\'s going to take decades to catch up.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: davepeck on June 16, 2009, 11:15:53 am
what a year.
fantastic playoffs. some good games in the finals, but i\'m glad it didn\'t go 6 or 7. we had enough drama in the previous 2 rounds, and i wanted to see this one end early.
i\'ve never watched a game in a more fun setting (without actually being there). cinema tent at bonnaroo was packed with people. lots of laker fans, and lots of magic fans (or just people rooting against the lakers in general). i got video of the final minute to have a memory of where i was when it happened. very awesome.
please bring back ariza AND odom.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 16, 2009, 12:04:58 pm
It\'s amazing how things change so quickly. A month ago everyone was saying how the Lakers couldn\'t win on the road, they had no heart, they didn\'t play defense, Pau was soft, and Fisher was done. And there was certainly a fair amount of evidence to support these claims.
But the truth is the Lakers benefited from these criticisms and shortcomings and became a better team as the playoffs wore on. Now, they\'re the 2009 NBA champions, an accomplishment which will remain etched in stone for eternity. To me, the turning point was winning Game 3 at Denver, a game the Lakers trailed throughout and yet found a way to win in the fourth, displaying the toughness that many thought they didn\'t have.
Obviously, Kobe and Phil add to their already brilliant, Hall of Fame careers and one of the most enjoyable things I\'ve ever witnessed as a sports fan has been watching Kobe\'s progression, developing from someone who played to shoot to a leader who plays to win.
In other news, Pau more than held his own against Dwight Howard and actually outplayed him in several stretches. It helps when your big guy can actually hit a shot from outside 10 feet, let alone a free throw.
But to me, the biggest difference between last season and this one for the Lakers was the improved play of Lamar Odom and the emergence of Trevor Ariza. Odom was a presence in the paint and Ariza was a clutch three-point machine. Meanwhile, Odom did pretty well from beyond the arc himself.
And speaking of clutch threes, the Lakers probably still win the series, but who knows what happens if not for Derek Fisher nailing the biggest shot of the postseason at the end of Game 4. I love how it\'s not just Kobe and Phil, but also Fisher, who came into the league with Kobe in \'96, who\'s a tie-in to the Lakers\' championship teams from earlier this decade. It\'s funny. The Lakers didn\'t have Fisher for three years in between these title runs and did nothing special in any of those three.
Anyway, the Los Angeles Lakers are the best team in the National Basketball Association for the year 2009. Feels great to say. Feels even greater coming off the heartbreak of last season. And for me, this run started right after last year\'s finals, with the Olympics, where Kobe\'s U.S.A. team and Pau\'s squad from Spain met in the gold medal game, one of the best basketball contests I\'ve ever seen, with both guys having great games and neither backing down from the other, despite being teammates. In fact, when the U.S.A. and Spain played in the preliminary round, Kobe knocked Pau on his ass and then walked right over him instead of shaking his hand.
After seeing that, and how Kobe was obviously going to step up his determination and competitiveness even more this year, I knew us Lakers\' fans had a special season in store. And the fact that I know I was there through it all, from the ground up, much as my fellow Lakers\' fans on this board were, whether it was a preseason game against Oklahoma City, a regular season game with the Clippers, the Lakers stopping the Celtics win streak on Christmas, Kobe scoring 61 at the Garden, the Lakers being the first team to win at Cleveland, and course, all the great moments of the postseason, right to the point where Bill Russell of all people handed Kobe the MVP trophy, is what makes me feel fantastic about the Lakers winning.
When you absorb the agony of your team losing, that\'s when you truly deserve to revel in the thrill of them winning.
Go Lakers!
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on June 16, 2009, 12:27:01 pm
enjoy the offseason. don\'t know if you read bill simmons (boston guy/laker hater), but he just posted a pretty interesting article about kobe\'s "transformation" and the lakers\' season. he hits on some of the points you made (the emergence of pau/ariza/odom). but mostly it\'s about kobe not being a different player than last year...just a better cast around him. column (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090616&sportCat=nba)
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When you absorb the agony of your team losing, that\'s when you truly deserve to revel in the thrill of them winning.
so when the mets win the world series, can we expect you literally burst into flames?
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 16, 2009, 12:48:51 pm
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enjoy the offseason. don\'t know if you read bill simmons (boston guy/laker hater), but he just posted a pretty interesting article about kobe\'s "transformation" and the lakers\' season. he hits on some of the points you made (the emergence of pau/ariza/odom). but mostly it\'s about kobe not being a different player than last year...just a better cast around him. column (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090616&sportCat=nba)
His main point seems to be "The Lakers were the best team in the NBA", which is kind of a given. I can\'t really argue with his points about Kobe, though. Simmons is so good when he isn\'t marking out for the Red Sox, Patriots or Celtics.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on June 16, 2009, 02:03:32 pm
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This is probably an all sports question, but I\'ll ask it here... Why do fans have to riot and loot after a team wins a national championship in a sport? I belive that this happened in LA over the past couple of days. Doesn\'t make any sense to me...
Did you look at the photos of the offenders? S. Central and 3rd worlders in abundance.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 16, 2009, 03:09:59 pm
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Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
You may think my knowledge of basketball is suspect, but its not. I\'ve been a basketball fan since 1984..... my peak years of obsession 1988-1999. I\'ve recently gotten back into my love of it.
Name a coach who has won without a superstar??
Easy (but it all depends what YOU categorize as a super star)
San Antonio Spurs 1999 Championship......
Coach: Gregg Popovich
I don\'t consider David Robinson a Super Star. I found him highly overrated.
and again in 2003 Championship.........
I also don\'t consider Tony Parker a Super Star.
Not that I think Pop is the greatest coach in basketball history.....i do give him more credit, and possibly consider him a better coach.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on June 16, 2009, 03:33:48 pm
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Quote from: leith;233563
Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
You may think my knowledge of basketball is suspect, but its not. I\'ve been a basketball fan since 1984..... my peak years of obsession 1988-1999. I\'ve recently gotten back into my love of it.
Name a coach who has won without a superstar??
Easy (but it all depends what YOU categorize as a super star)
San Antonio Spurs 1999 Championship......
Coach: Gregg Popovich
I don\'t consider David Robinson a Super Star. I found him highly overrated.
and again in 2003 Championship.........
I also don\'t consider Tony Parker a Super Star.
Not that I think Pop is the greatest coach in basketball history.....i do give him more credit, and possibly consider him a better coach.
tim duncan has been the best big man for the last 10 years. i wouldn\'t consider him a superstar in the sense that he\'s not very flashy, but he has been first team all nba for like a decade straight.
the 2004 pistons won without a superstar and i\'m not even sure who their coach was...take that for what it\'s worth.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 16, 2009, 03:49:57 pm
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Just because you excel at the NCAA level does not transfer to success at the NBA level.
There for your 5 NCAA coaches that are way better than Jackson is really moot.
But please, name them.
This is not a knock or anything like that. Did you ever play HS or College sports?
I wasn\'t saying that NCAA level success translates into NBA success. I was stating that when it comes down to the game, the real game of basketball, i think there are NCAA coaches that have been better than Phil Jackson. I feel like NCAA basketball is basketball in its purest form.
And no i did not play HS or College sports. I went to a highly competitive high school when it came to sports. I lost desire to play after freshman year because of a personal tragedy in my life, if you must ask. My sports of choice to play were tennis and softball. Had i not had a loss at 14, i would have probably went on to play hs and then college sports.
But i have been a sports fan since i could walk.
And now as you have all demanded, my 5 NCAA coaches (past and present) i consider better coaches than Phil Jackson.
#1 John Wooden - my facts say he won 10 Championships with UCLA (7 in a row!)
#2 Bobby Knight (even with all his chair throwing)
#3 Dean Smith (as much as I dislike the Tarheels)
#4 Geno Auriemma (this will be highly controversial to you all since he coaches Women, but you can\'t deny that he creates true basketball magic up there. Why did I pick him over Jim Calhoun? Its in the stats)
#5 Pat Summit (this will all make you flip i\'m sure. Not only is she a woman, she coaches women. But 8 Championships??? Come on!)
Sorry to get you guys all riled up, but i seriously was sick of listening to all this Phil Jackson dick sucking. He isn\'t the greatest basketball coach of all time.
Sorry you had to hear it from a girl ;)
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Quote from: leith;233563
Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
You may think my knowledge of basketball is suspect, but its not. I\'ve been a basketball fan since 1984..... my peak years of obsession 1988-1999. I\'ve recently gotten back into my love of it.
Name a coach who has won without a superstar??
Easy (but it all depends what YOU categorize as a super star)
San Antonio Spurs 1999 Championship......
Coach: Gregg Popovich
I don\'t consider David Robinson a Super Star. I found him highly overrated.
and again in 2003 Championship.........
I also don\'t consider Tony Parker a Super Star.
Not that I think Pop is the greatest coach in basketball history.....i do give him more credit, and possibly consider him a better coach.
tim duncan has been the best big man for the last 10 years. i wouldn\'t consider him a superstar in the sense that he\'s not very flashy, but he has been first team all nba for like a decade straight.
the 2004 pistons won without a superstar and i\'m not even sure who their coach was...take that for what it\'s worth.
Actually, you beat me to it, Zuke. I was saving that in case Leith came back saying the Spurs weren\'t a good enough example ;)
Pistons won in 04 and their coach was Larry Brown (right before he went to the Knicks for that horrible year)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Yoda on June 16, 2009, 05:02:37 pm
Just looking at the statistics, the only team to win a championship without a superstar would be the 47-48 Baltimore Bullets; their highest scorer was Kleggie Hermsen with an average of 12 PPG... The only other teams in NBA championship history with team leader in points under 20 were the following:
50-51 Rochester / Arie Risen - 16.3 PPG (Hall of Famer) 03-04 Detroit / Richard Hamilton - 17.6 PPG 88-89 Detroit / Adrian Dantley - 18.4 PPG (Hall of Famer) 89-90 Detroit / Isiah Thomas - 18.4 PPG (Hall of Famer) 54-55 Syracuse / Adoplh Schayes - 19.0 PPG (Hall of Famer) 75-76 Boston / Dave Cowens - 19.0 PPG (Hall of Famer) 78-79 Seattle / Gus Williams - 19.2 PPG 52-53 Minneapolis / George Mikan - 19.6 PPG (Hall of Famer) 07-08 Boston / Paul Pierce - 19.6 PPG 62-63 Boston / Sam Jones - 19.7 PPG (Hall of Famer) 77-78 Washington / Elvin Hayes - 19.7 PPG (Hall of Famer) 53-54 Minneapolis / George Mikan - 19.9 PPG (Hall of Famer) 63-64 Boston / John Havlicek - 19.9 PPG (Hall of Famer)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 16, 2009, 05:32:04 pm
^^^ wow ryan, you went waaaaay back. ;)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on June 16, 2009, 05:32:09 pm
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And now as you have all demanded, my 5 NCAA coaches (past and present) i consider better coaches than Phil Jackson.
#1 John Wooden - my facts say he won 10 Championships with UCLA (7 in a row!)
#2 Bobby Knight (even with all his chair throwing)
#3 Dean Smith (as much as I dislike the Tarheels)
#4 Geno Auriemma (this will be highly controversial to you all since he coaches Women, but you can\'t deny that he creates true basketball magic up there. Why did I pick him over Jim Calhoun? Its in the stats)
#5 Pat Summit (this will all make you flip i\'m sure. Not only is she a woman, she coaches women. But 8 Championships??? Come on!)
ok that\'s 3 (and i\'m throwing you a bone with dean smith and bobby knight)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 16, 2009, 09:57:06 pm
I find your arguments shallow and pedantic.
Actually what I enjoy more is how opinion tried to passed off as a fact.
I really did enough these last few days talking about something I really don\'t care about. It\'s been fun. Til next season.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 17, 2009, 01:18:40 am
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Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
You may think my knowledge of basketball is suspect, but its not. I\'ve been a basketball fan since 1984..... my peak years of obsession 1988-1999. I\'ve recently gotten back into my love of it.
Name a coach who has won without a superstar??
Easy (but it all depends what YOU categorize as a super star)
San Antonio Spurs 1999 Championship......
Coach: Gregg Popovich
I don\'t consider David Robinson a Super Star. I found him highly overrated.
and again in 2003 Championship.........
I also don\'t consider Tony Parker a Super Star.
Not that I think Pop is the greatest coach in basketball history.....i do give him more credit, and possibly consider him a better coach.
Oh yeah Tim Duncan and David Robinson were not superstars just perennial all stars.
Just because you do not consider those 2 superstars it does not make it fact. People that actually do have real Basketball knowledge and get paid for their opinions consider them so.
I\'ll go with their opinions.
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Just because you excel at the NCAA level does not transfer to success at the NBA level.
There for your 5 NCAA coaches that are way better than Jackson is really moot.
But please, name them.
This is not a knock or anything like that. Did you ever play HS or College sports?
I wasn\'t saying that NCAA level success translates into NBA success. I was stating that when it comes down to the game, the real game of basketball, i think there are NCAA coaches that have been better than Phil Jackson. I feel like NCAA basketball is basketball in its purest form.
And no i did not play HS or College sports. I went to a highly competitive high school when it came to sports. I lost desire to play after freshman year because of a personal tragedy in my life, if you must ask. My sports of choice to play were tennis and softball. Had i not had a loss at 14, i would have probably went on to play hs and then college sports.
But i have been a sports fan since i could walk.
And now as you have all demanded, my 5 NCAA coaches (past and present) i consider better coaches than Phil Jackson.
#1 John Wooden - my facts say he won 10 Championships with UCLA (7 in a row!)
#2 Bobby Knight (even with all his chair throwing)
#3 Dean Smith (as much as I dislike the Tarheels)
#4 Geno Auriemma (this will be highly controversial to you all since he coaches Women, but you can\'t deny that he creates true basketball magic up there. Why did I pick him over Jim Calhoun? Its in the stats)
#5 Pat Summit (this will all make you flip i\'m sure. Not only is she a woman, she coaches women. But 8 Championships??? Come on!)
Sorry to get you guys all riled up, but i seriously was sick of listening to all this Phil Jackson dick sucking. He isn\'t the greatest basketball coach of all time.
Sorry you had to hear it from a girl ;)
Well seeing as we are talking NBA coaches your response is unneeded but since you did. I\'ll give you John Wooden and Dean Smith that\'s it.
You give girls a bad name every time you post in this thread.
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Quote from: SkyePrizm;233635
Quote from: leith;233563
Well your Basketball knowledge is very suspect but why don\'t you go ahead and back that ridiculous claim.
Oh and that\'s an idiotic statement about seeing Phil win w/o a super star.
Name a coach that has.
Oh wait you can\'t.
You may think my knowledge of basketball is suspect, but its not. I\'ve been a basketball fan since 1984..... my peak years of obsession 1988-1999. I\'ve recently gotten back into my love of it.
Name a coach who has won without a superstar??
Easy (but it all depends what YOU categorize as a super star)
San Antonio Spurs 1999 Championship......
Coach: Gregg Popovich
I don\'t consider David Robinson a Super Star. I found him highly overrated.
and again in 2003 Championship.........
I also don\'t consider Tony Parker a Super Star.
Not that I think Pop is the greatest coach in basketball history.....i do give him more credit, and possibly consider him a better coach.
tim duncan has been the best big man for the last 10 years. i wouldn\'t consider him a superstar in the sense that he\'s not very flashy, but he has been first team all nba for like a decade straight.
the 2004 pistons won without a superstar and i\'m not even sure who their coach was...take that for what it\'s worth.
Yeah Chancey Billups who basically just turned the Denver Nuggets into a threat and won that Finals MVP is not superstar worthy neither was Ben Wallace at his peak. :sarcasm:
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 17, 2009, 10:39:15 am
Leith, we could disagree till the beginning of next season. So I will bow out of this, agreeing to disagree.
Congrats to your Lakers, but I still say Phil Jackson isn\'t the best basketball coach that ever lived.
As Spacey said, Till Next Year....
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I find your arguments shallow and pedantic.
So basically just like the rest of the arguments, opinions, and rants on dot info...;)
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: Spacey on June 17, 2009, 10:53:25 am
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Leith, we could disagree till the beginning of next season. So I will bow out of this, agreeing to disagree.
Congrats to your Lakers, but I still say Phil Jackson isn\'t the best basketball coach that ever lived.
As Spacey said, Till Next Year....
Quote from: Spacey;233669
I find your arguments shallow and pedantic.
So basically just like the rest of the arguments, opinions, and rants on dot info...;)
hahaha, very much in line.
This has really been fun.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 17, 2009, 12:05:51 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233728
Leith, we could disagree till the beginning of next season. So I will bow out of this, agreeing to disagree.
Congrats to your Lakers, but I still say Phil Jackson isn\'t the best basketball coach that ever lived.
As Spacey said, Till Next Year....
Quote from: Spacey;233669
I find your arguments shallow and pedantic.
So basically just like the rest of the arguments, opinions, and rants on dot info...;)
You could use a community college reading comprehension review. Never said he was the best Basketball coach ever as a matter of fact the small consensus in this thread is that it\'s John Wooden.
However back to what started this and which you have not shown proof to argue is that Phil IS the best NBA basketball coach.
No matter what you think Phil has 10 rings and no other coach does. That\'s FACT.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: davepeck on June 17, 2009, 03:05:34 pm
Seemed like Vujacic had a much more limited role in this year\'s Finals. I recall him banging in a lot of 3s against the Cs last year.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: zuke583 on June 17, 2009, 04:03:42 pm
Quote from: leith;233679
Yeah Chancey Billups who basically just turned the Denver Nuggets into a threat and won that Finals MVP is not superstar worthy neither was Ben Wallace at his peak. :sarcasm:
ben wallace was never ever a superstar. i don\'t know how you can call a guy who couldn\'t play offense a superstar. he went from wildly underrated to wildly overrated in two seasons...don\'t be foold by his contract. and chauncey hit some clutch shots for a couple years (not many in the last few, mind you) and he was a very good point guard. i never thought to myself..."man that chauncey billups is a superstar". that was a total team effort championship in \'04 predicated on defense (coach larry brown). i don\'t expect to change your mind on this issue, just know that i considered that entire team before i made that post
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: skalnbyc on June 17, 2009, 04:09:26 pm
From what I have seen, albeit limited, Ben Wallace never impressed me in the slightest.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 17, 2009, 08:34:18 pm
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you could use a community college reading comprehension review.
And you could use a brush up on manners and etiquette....
I never once in my arguements insulted you as a person, Leith. But you did to me more than once. Including with the above.
I respect someone who can debate intelligently without resorting to mudslinging and personal insults.
I find myself sinking to your level right now even calling you out on this.
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Quote from: leith;233679
Yeah Chancey Billups who basically just turned the Denver Nuggets into a threat and won that Finals MVP is not superstar worthy neither was Ben Wallace at his peak. :sarcasm:
ben wallace was never ever a superstar. i don\'t know how you can call a guy who couldn\'t play offense a superstar. he went from wildly underrated to wildly overrated in two seasons...don\'t be foold by his contract. and chauncey hit some clutch shots for a couple years (not many in the last few, mind you) and he was a very good point guard. i never thought to myself..."man that chauncey billups is a superstar". that was a total team effort championship in \'04 predicated on defense (coach larry brown). i don\'t expect to change your mind on this issue, just know that i considered that entire team before i made that post
Don\'t you know, Zuke, we know nothing. Leith knows all.
Title: The 2008-09 NBA thread
Post by: leith on June 18, 2009, 01:01:09 am
Quote from: zuke583;233812
Quote from: leith;233679
Yeah Chancey Billups who basically just turned the Denver Nuggets into a threat and won that Finals MVP is not superstar worthy neither was Ben Wallace at his peak. :sarcasm:
ben wallace was never ever a superstar. i don\'t know how you can call a guy who couldn\'t play offense a superstar. he went from wildly underrated to wildly overrated in two seasons...don\'t be foold by his contract. and chauncey hit some clutch shots for a couple years (not many in the last few, mind you) and he was a very good point guard. i never thought to myself..."man that chauncey billups is a superstar". that was a total team effort championship in \'04 predicated on defense (coach larry brown). i don\'t expect to change your mind on this issue, just know that i considered that entire team before i made that post
I agree they beat The Lakers with team defense led by Ben who I must admit has underachieved in his career. However Chauncey is indeed a Superstar just not in the same vein as a Kobe or LeBron. He showed this in the Western Conference Finals this year. The same way he showed it in 2004. There is a reason Denver went from could have beens to contenders and his name is Chauncey Billups.
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Quote from: leith;233757
you could use a community college reading comprehension review.
And you could use a brush up on manners and etiquette....
I never once in my arguements insulted you as a person, Leith. But you did to me more than once. Including with the above.
I respect someone who can debate intelligently without resorting to mudslinging and personal insults.
I find myself sinking to your level right now even calling you out on this.
Hey I thought I was giving you perfectly sensible advice that may help your arguments. Instead your poor reading comprehension skills lead to your inane and nonsensical posting as far as I can tell.
If you feel insulted, I\'m sorry you feel that way. You should get over it though. It\'ll probably happen again.
Quote from: zuke583;233812
Quote from: leith;233679
Yeah Chancey Billups who basically just turned the Denver Nuggets into a threat and won that Finals MVP is not superstar worthy neither was Ben Wallace at his peak. :sarcasm:
ben wallace was never ever a superstar. i don\'t know how you can call a guy who couldn\'t play offense a superstar. he went from wildly underrated to wildly overrated in two seasons...don\'t be foold by his contract. and chauncey hit some clutch shots for a couple years (not many in the last few, mind you) and he was a very good point guard. i never thought to myself..."man that chauncey billups is a superstar". that was a total team effort championship in \'04 predicated on defense (coach larry brown). i don\'t expect to change your mind on this issue, just know that i considered that entire team before i made that post
Quote from: SkyePrizm;233854
Don\'t you know, Zuke, we know nothing. Leith knows all.