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Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 24, 2008, 01:32:50 pm
Red sox single game tickets go on sale this saturday at 10am for most games.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/ticketing/singlegame.jsp?c_id=bos (http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/ticketing/singlegame.jsp?c_id=bos)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on January 24, 2008, 02:12:13 pm
Ummmm......

No thank you!  

I plan on getting to as many games at Yankee Stadium before the bastardized version of the new stadium opens up in 2009.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on January 24, 2008, 04:30:20 pm
hey paul I think I heard you get a shoutout on espn radio this morning. was that you that made the tom brady take on me song?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 24, 2008, 04:44:23 pm
haha, yea, that was me. Golic sure seemed to like it! I didn\'t make the song though, all I did was edit the video to make it look like the old music video from a-ha. The song parody and singing was by curt. Him and Liam make all the songs. We can\'t put it on the website though because of nfl films footage contracts. oh well. It was still fun to make. :biggrin:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on January 24, 2008, 05:01:26 pm
heh yea it was funny. wish i saw the video
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on January 24, 2008, 07:53:57 pm
Red Sox: 162-0: 162 to go.

Quote from: Yoda;177509
I plan on getting to as many games at Yankee Stadium before the bastardized version of the new stadium opens up in 2009.



After I get Red Sox tickets this Saturday, I plan on buying as many Yankee home game tickets as possible and selling them at double face to Yankee fans.  Pony up Deblock!  Haha!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on January 24, 2008, 08:59:54 pm
Sorry - neither of your comments are going to happen.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 25, 2008, 04:54:26 am
I was thinking about that the other day. Does anyone know how close a baseball team has come to a perfect season? I\'m sure it\'s never happened, there are just too many games. I wonder what the all time best season was though.

got something of an answer: mariners won 116 in 2001. :wah:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on January 25, 2008, 06:39:49 am
Yes - that\'s correct, but they were not able to complete dream and win the WS.  The Yankees won 110 in 98 and won the WS.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on January 25, 2008, 08:45:34 am
mariners had the best record ever but that team was nowhere near the best ever

same thing in basketball with the bulls. they won like 75 games one year but it was not even the best bulls team of the jordan era. Assuming the pats win the super bowl it will be considered the best single season in football ever and possibly any sport ever, but will the pats of the 2000\'s be considered the best football dynsasty ever? I think the steelers one four championships in 6 years  in the 70\'s this will be four in 7 or 8 for the pats?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on January 25, 2008, 09:20:45 am
After not seeing any baseball games last year for probably the first time this decade I\'m hitting up a bunch this year. Yankees Stadium for Mets or Mariners in late May. Padres @ Mets 8.05-07, Yankees @ Orioles 08.23-24. This will be my first time seeing the Padres and I\'m very excited!

MLB > NFL
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on January 25, 2008, 09:46:38 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;177520
haha, yea, that was me. Golic sure seemed to like it! I didn\'t make the song though, all I did was edit the video to make it look like the old music video from a-ha. The song parody and singing was by curt. Him and Liam make all the songs. We can\'t put it on the website though because of nfl films footage contracts. oh well. It was still fun to make. :biggrin:


do you work for ESPN?

I\'ve been trying to get in there for years...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 25, 2008, 03:45:33 pm
Quote from: BennyBoomers;177564
do you work for ESPN?

I\'ve been trying to get in there for years...


http://www.joinourteam.espn.com/joinourteam/ (http://www.joinourteam.espn.com/joinourteam/)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on January 25, 2008, 04:10:26 pm
With no where else to go, I think the Padres should take over Tijuana. :stashban: (finally, an excuse to use the stash banana)

(http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/835641802_ef422b12cf_b1.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 25, 2008, 04:21:48 pm
I think there are some yankee fans on long island and in new jersey that may have something to say about your map.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on January 25, 2008, 04:42:27 pm
I agree Paul, but I would also bet that Yankee fans reach to all corners of the country and a lot of the rest of the baseball world.  I consider myself lucky to have grown up in an area where there\'s such a team as the Yankees with such a rich history.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: estahwhaddup on January 25, 2008, 11:33:15 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;177614
Quote from: BennyBoomers;177564
do you work for ESPN?

I\'ve been trying to get in there for years...


http://www.joinourteam.espn.com/joinourteam/ (http://www.joinourteam.espn.com/joinourteam/)


my brother-in-law used to work at espn too, from 04-05?  maybe you knew him?  his name is paul kuo
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on January 26, 2008, 10:20:38 am
Red Sox ticketing = serious downer
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Nermel9 on January 26, 2008, 12:50:14 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;177682
Red Sox ticketing = serious downer


Yep I\'m not even going to bother with the virtual waiting room this year...I really want to go to Opening Day at Fenway though, but I think you have to register to be picked just for a chance to buy tickets. :rolleyes:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on January 26, 2008, 01:04:04 pm
Well I put my computer on at 10 since I was here anyhow, but there is of course no expectation whatsoever.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 26, 2008, 06:35:46 pm
<-overslept :banghead:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on January 27, 2008, 06:53:37 pm
Probably wouldn\'t have made any difference anyhow. Guess the scalpers will get my business again this year.

Could someone let me know when Yankees tickets go on sale? It seems as though they have their Flex Pack tickets on sale now but not single game.

I have never been to Yankee Stadium so it\'s kind of important for me to do that this year...
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Post by: FrankZappa on January 28, 2008, 08:32:21 am
Quote
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-->>Click here for report (http://www.rogerclemensreport.com/reports/ClemensReport.pdf)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on January 29, 2008, 04:48:11 pm
The Twins have just traded Johan Santana to the Mets for outfielder Carlos Gomez and pitchers Phil Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Delois Guerra.

As a Yankees fan I applaud the deal.  It keeps our prospects in house while keeping him away from Boston.

Congrats Mets fans, you got an ace.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on January 29, 2008, 05:08:49 pm
Holy fuckin\' shit!

Wow. I never could have possibly imagined that the Mets would get Santana without losing Reyes, or any established major-leaguer that matter.

Now all they have to do is lock up that left arm for the next five years.

Let\'s Go Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on January 29, 2008, 05:10:30 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;178006
The Twins have just traded Johan Santana to the Mets for outfielder Carlos Gomez and pitchers Phil Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Delois Guerra.


They still have to agee on a 6-7 year contract extension and he has to pass a physical. I wouldn\'t be too concerned with the physical but he\'s looking to get $150 million for 6 years, which is no gimme.

I\'m really hoping for a Peavy/Santana showdown at Shea this August!

Go Padres!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on January 29, 2008, 11:44:55 pm
Tina Cervasio not returning to NESN for 2008

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2008/01/28/daily26.html
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on January 30, 2008, 04:51:01 pm
Quote from: Me!;178044
Tina Cervasio not returning to NESN for 2008

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2008/01/28/daily26.html


Good, she\'s annoying. I\'d be ok with her if she never opened her mouth.

Also, registration for the chance to purchase Opening Day, Right Field Roof Deck, Green Monster, and Sox/Yankees tickets started today.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Nermel9 on January 30, 2008, 07:04:11 pm
Quote
Good, she\'s annoying.


She annoyed me for a really long time, then I stated to like her.  Hazel Mae is much more annoying than Tina.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on January 30, 2008, 10:04:08 pm
Yes I will agree with that.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: antbach on January 31, 2008, 04:34:28 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;178221

Also, registration for the chance to purchase Opening Day, Right Field Roof Deck, Green Monster, and Sox/Yankees tickets started today.

link? i didnt get the memo again this year. they must not like me. edit: nevermind, found it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on February 03, 2008, 12:23:59 am
Johan Santana
Pedro Martinez
John Maine
Oliver Perez
El Duque/Mike Pelfrey

show me a better 1-5 in MLB.

That rotation matches up with anyone all the way down the line, and we still might end up with someone more solid in the 5th spot.



Johan is a Bulldog and will OWN the NL.



Pedro is BACK and is healthy for the first time in a few years and will have a good season even by his standards.



John Maine is the poor man’s Cole Hammels.  He has above average stuff and is very cool and collected and focused on the mound. He won ten games before the all star break but only had five more wins in the second half but it was his first full season in the bigs. This year he will likely pitch over 200 innings and acquire 17-19 wins.  Maine also pitches well in big games as seen in the 2006 playoffs and  he threw a no-hitter through 8 when the mets necks were on the lines in the second to last game of 2007. I feel very confident giving johny the ball in clutch games.



Oliver Perez can be wild , overly emotional, and is prone to meltdown.  But the kid also has VERY nasty stuff. No hit stuff if he improved his control and consistency. I think in this second under Rick Peterson keeping that arm angle constant he will do well and add a victory or two to the 15 he had last season.


The fifth spot is up in the air to some extent, but the options are good.  El Duque will likely get some of the starts and perform very well for a fifth starter but will go down with injury and probably get moved to the Pen. Next option is Mike Pelfrey who is due for a break out year.  He looked great in semptember.  If he has mastered his secondary pitches and and a good out-pitch he could really bust out. He is still a highly regarded prospect and projected to be a possible #2 or ace pitcher someday.  There is also talk of even singing an innings eater like livan Hernandez  to round out the 5th spot.



The new catcher Brian Schneider was also supposedly brought in for his abilities to work well with the staff, and really knowing every hitter in the NL and calling a great game and playing great defense behind the plate so that can only help things as well.

An addittion like this really just makes everyone better. When you have someone preforming at the level he throws it down everyone steps it up a notch.  

So basically we\'re fuckin stacked and we\'re gonna win a 100 games and the world series :D
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on February 14, 2008, 11:38:59 pm
pitchers and catchers reported today.


God I love baseball.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on February 14, 2008, 11:59:11 pm
Quote from: Me!;179980
pitchers and catchers reported today.


God I love baseball.


Yeah it popped up on my calender and I was all Oh Yeah!

OK I\'ll get it out now.
Yankees Suck
Red Sux Blow

Go Padres!
Angels will win the W.S.

Seeya throughout the season Folks!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on February 15, 2008, 08:38:24 am
Quote from: antbach;178383
Quote from: jocelyn;178221


Also, registration for the chance to purchase Opening Day, Right Field Roof Deck, Green Monster, and Sox/Yankees tickets started today.


link? i didnt get the memo again this year. they must not like me. edit: nevermind, found it.


ordered my tickets the other day........ Sunday Sept 28th Yankees/ Red Sox. last game of the regular season..... should be sick
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on February 15, 2008, 05:30:42 pm
Jealous.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on February 15, 2008, 05:39:28 pm
Quote from: derickw;179996
Quote from: antbach;178383
Quote from: jocelyn;178221

Also, registration for the chance to purchase Opening Day, Right Field Roof Deck, Green Monster, and Sox/Yankees tickets started today.

link? i didnt get the memo again this year. they must not like me. edit: nevermind, found it.

ordered my tickets the other day........ Sunday Sept 28th Yankees/ Red Sox. last game of the regular season..... should be sick

:wah: :bowdown:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on February 18, 2008, 09:49:57 am
i sat in the virtual waiting room for an hour 45 i was worried i wouldn\'t get a chance to buy any. 4 seats at 12 bucks a piece....... how can you go wrong. worse comes to worse i sell them and make a shit load of loot
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on February 18, 2008, 11:44:57 am
Quote from: derickw;180295
worse comes to worse i sell them and make a shit load of loot


:wave: :bowdown: (http://www.vc-forums.com/customavatars/avatar1061_4.gif)


1:45? You\'re damn lucky man! Last year I waited in it for like 3 hours before I had to go out, so I gave my info to joc and she was in it at least as long  before getting the upper right field roof deck seats which by the way, was the best baseball game I can remember going to.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on February 18, 2008, 12:20:54 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;180322
Quote from: derickw;180295
worse comes to worse i sell them and make a shit load of loot


:wave: :bowdown: (http://www.vc-forums.com/customavatars/avatar1061_4.gif)


1:45? You\'re damn lucky man! Last year I waited in it for like 3 hours before I had to go out, so I gave my info to joc and she was in it at least as long  before getting the upper right field roof deck seats which by the way, was the best baseball game I can remember going to.


i was a little worried and then figured hey, i\'ll just open like 10 windows in firefox and wait for one to let me in and 10 mins after i did that i got in. Right field bleachers but hey, there really aren\'t any bad seats in Fenway
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on February 18, 2008, 05:08:35 pm
let me know if you plan on getting rid of them. :)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on February 18, 2008, 08:50:57 pm
I fucking can\'t wait for baseball.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on February 18, 2008, 08:57:43 pm
METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!METS!

:banwpoa:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on February 18, 2008, 09:01:25 pm
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on February 18, 2008, 09:06:51 pm
(http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2008/02/large_AJOHAN.jpg)

heh traded for the hot dog eater. I hate the phillies.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on February 19, 2008, 06:31:49 am
While the phillies are by no means my team you have to love the comdey they get away with. THe pies in faces during post game interviews, trading you to japan, funny stuff. The best part about this one was how many people were involved with it. Management, his own agent, the media, the whole team. That takes some serious planning!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 13, 2008, 12:28:40 am
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5421/20080312165609990005ft6.jpg)

OW!

a bench clearing brawl in spring training, who\'d a thunk it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 19, 2008, 12:39:59 pm
So if you have not heard already, the red sox are boycotting today\'s game and they and now the A\'s as well will not be going to Japan simply because the club house employees/coaches were promised a 40K bonus as well as the players to go. After the fact they were told that only the players would be getting the bonus, and the coaches/family/ect would have to pay their own way to and from japan. In support of the people who make much less money than they do, and spend just as much time on the field if not more they are not going.

I don\'t care what sport it is or what team, I think this is awesome that both teams are sticking behind there clubhouses like this to get what they were promised. :thumbsup:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 19, 2008, 12:46:40 pm
I think that\'s great.  Good for them for looking out for "the little guy" When did this happen? < redsox.com posted it @12:35 today
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 19, 2008, 12:55:06 pm
todays game is back on so it looks like it got settled. I first heard about it around noon.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 19, 2008, 01:30:17 pm
I just heard on ESPN radio that some writer from the boston herald got a text message from schilling that a deal was made and they\'re going to Japan.  There was no way that this deal wouldn\'t have been made; it would have caused to much of a fuss for a couple bucks.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 19, 2008, 03:39:33 pm
yea, it was settled before they took the field today from what I understand. No one is stupid enough to risk spending maybe a half mil for some coaches when the potential loss if you don\'t is over a billion.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: WALSH on March 19, 2008, 04:21:06 pm
Go Blue Jays!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 22, 2008, 02:36:35 pm
If you\'re bored check out some of the clips from the Tokyo exhibition games oin mlb.com, it\'s interesting to hear the japanese commentary.

On a related sidenote, it\'s a bummer that the two A\'s Sox games are @ 6am our time.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on March 22, 2008, 02:44:34 pm
I know it. Two weeks ago, while very drunk, I agreed to pull an all-nighter Monday night and then show up at someone\'s house for early morning cocktails and baseball. I\'m hoping no one remembers me making this commitment.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 22, 2008, 02:56:22 pm
so you\'re saying there are benefits to going into work at 5am? :biggrin:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on March 22, 2008, 03:02:05 pm
I hate to say it Paul but I think the benefits are vastly outweighed by.... getting up at that ungodly hour!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 22, 2008, 03:36:38 pm
other than fri night, I love my 2-10:30 shift
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 25, 2008, 12:10:52 am
Quote from: Me!;184081
On a related sidenote, it\'s a bummer that the two A\'s Sox games are @ 6am our time.


Thank god for NESN\'s replay, there\'s one starting just as I get home from work @ 11. :)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on March 25, 2008, 03:45:29 am
Soooo... I\'m still up. James just went to bed, after starting work at 3:30pm and leaving at 2:30am. I showed up at his work at 12:45 after several classes today, riding 5 horses, and teaching 2 lessons. I have instructions to wake him at 4:40. While bartending, he had to deal with a firemen function, ugh. So I am to wake him, then we are driving to a bar with giant televisions and a full breakfast to watch the game at 6. I feel like a zombie and am about to watch an Office marathon until it\'s time to leave. My question: am I a fanatic, or an alcoholic?

Also, I find this whole thing very amusing considering that when I met him he was quite anti-baseball. Now he has a fish named Ramirez. I think I have created a monster.

Sidenote: we also won season\'s tickets to see the Nashua Pride, which is about the worst baseball team ever. Awesome.

Anyhow the whole point of this is that I am really really really really really really happy that it is time for baseball.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on March 25, 2008, 10:00:02 am
AL East - Red Sox, Yankees, Blue Jays, Devil Rays, Orioles
AL Central - Tigers, Indians, Twins, Royals, White Sox
AL West - Angels, Mariners, Athletics, Rangers
AL Wild Card - Mariners

NL East - Phillies, Braves, Mets, Marlins, Nationals
NL Central - Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Astros, Cardinals, Pirates
NL West - Diamondbacks, Padres, Rockies, Dodgers, Giants
NL Wild Card - Braves

World Series - Tigers over Phillies


I\'m not sure if the Padres will make the playoffs this season. If they do it will be in the Wild Card spot. Their outfield is garbage and I don\'t think Jim Edmonds (CF) will provide enough insurance behind Adrian Gonzalez (1B) in the lineup. Their pitching will be top notch as usual but the NL West is the best division in baseball and it will be difficult to rely on the pitchers every single night due to a lack of run support.

GO PADRES!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 25, 2008, 11:32:36 am
Quote from: jocelyn;184283
My question: am I a fanatic, or an alcoholic?

alittle from colum a, a little from colum b......... ;)

Quote from: jocelyn;184283
Anyhow the whole point of this is that I am really really really really really really happy that it is time for baseball.

tell me about it, so pumped for baseball.  i didn\'t get to see the game yet (I\'ll prob watch parts of the replay later)
but BOS 6 - OAK 5 :)

Quote from: booztravlr;184293

but the [-]NL West [/-] AL East is the best division in baseball


fixed it for ya. ;)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on March 25, 2008, 12:11:32 pm
Quote from: Me!;184304
Quote from: booztravlr;184293
Their pitching will be top notch as usual but the [-]NL West [/-] AL East is the best division in baseball

fixed it for ya. ;)

Come on guy, you can\'t be ser! I understand the Red Sox won the World Series but that doesn\'t mean the AL East is therefore the best Division in baseball. You can give a boost to the AL East for getting the Wild Card but the NL West also had the Wild Card.

Breakdown of wins per division and then per team for 2007 (to account for the 4 and 6 team divisions)

AL East 408 wins (81.6 avg)
AL Central 404 wins (80.8 avg)
AL West 333 wins (83.25 avg)
NL East 405 wins (81.0 avg)
NL Central 459 wins (76.5 avg     :rip:)     :asskicked
NL West 421 wins (84.2 avg) I subtracted the Rockies/Padres play in game from the total


By these numbers, the AL East is in 3rd and only 5 wins away from being 5th. Far from the best division...


By the way, nice avatar. I\'m assuming it\'s The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Def one of my fav movies.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 25, 2008, 12:17:55 pm
;) <---  winky, transtlation just kidding.  :)

Quote from: booztravlr;184311

By the way, nice avatar. I\'m assuming it\'s The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Def one of my fav movies.

I think so, I just did an image search for Clint Eastwood on google.  It\'s def part of the dollar trilogy though.  (prob either A Few Dollars More or TGTB&TU) I\'ve been on a Spaghetti Western kick lately.  Love \'em.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 25, 2008, 02:07:57 pm
I would have to say that historically, the American League has been the better League and AL East teams have shown that they are historically better.

- The AL has won 61 World Series since 1903 (NL has won 42)
- AL East teams have won 38 out of the 61 series won by the AL East (The Yankees winning 26 - nearly 70% of those wins)

I guess that my ultimate point is that the Yankees are the best team in MLB history. If Boston wins 15-20 more championships in the next 100 years, we\'ll talk.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 26, 2008, 12:09:19 am
Quote from: Yoda;184321
I guess that my ultimate point is that the Yankees are the best team in MLB history. If Boston wins 15-20 more championships in the next 100 years, we\'ll talk.


:rolleyes:  typical yankee fan reaction.  Yes we all know that the Yankees are the winningest team in MLB history, you know what? I don\'t care.  I also don\'t care about 2007, or 2004 (other than the end of the "curse of the bambino" and everyone expecting Boston to lose)

I care about the here and now. Yes the Yankees were and are a great ball team, but let\'s see what happens this year, and not consistently fall back on your past record, it does not matter in the \'08 season.  What matters is the game that\'s being played "today".  

It\'s as though Yankee fans are trying to negate to fact that Boston is a great ball team right now by saying that the Yankees have 26 world championships.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 26, 2008, 09:01:42 am
No one is taking anything away from boston, but let\'s not give them the division before the season has even started (Japan doesn\'t count because the rest of us haven\'t started playing).  

But while you\'re at it, "typical yankee fan reaction..." is a comment I was used to hearing in CT from bitter Red Sox fans.  I\'m glad that I don\'t have to hear that in Jersey.

I\'ll also be the first Yankee fan to say this, "There is and there never was a curse of the bambino."  Boston has had 6 chances to win the series since babe was traded and only cashed in on 2 of them.  Blaming 4 WS losses, by one game, on a curse is just the fans\' way of substantiating the loss in their heads.  The Yankees haven\'t won a series since 2000 - there is no curse.  They play like individuals, not a team - plain and simple.

I undestand that boston fans have a good team and I\'m not taking anything away from them, all I\'m saying that let them continue to compete on this level for a couple years in a row before we assume that they will continue to win and take the division before the season has even started.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 26, 2008, 09:28:56 am
ryan, the two games in japan counted twoards the regular season... Given, you can\'t compair stats with other teams until the other teams start up on monday, but those games do count.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 26, 2008, 09:47:00 am
Paul -
I undestand that they do count, but it\'s not realistic for Sox fans to start saying that they are 1/2-1 game up on everyone else seeing as no one else has started to play.  That\'s all I am saying.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on March 26, 2008, 12:40:34 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;184293


NL East - Phillies, Braves, Mets, Marlins, Nationals


care to place a wager on that statment?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on March 26, 2008, 11:33:23 pm
Quote from: Yoda;184401
I\'ll also be the first Yankee fan to say this, "There is and there never was a curse of the bambino."  Boston has had 6 chances to win the series since babe was traded and only cashed in on 2 of them.  Blaming 4 WS losses, by one game, on a curse is just the fans\' way of substantiating the loss in their heads.


I agree they\'ve suffered from the curse of bad ownership/managers

Quote from: Yoda;184401
I undestand that boston fans have a good team and I\'m not taking anything away from them, all I\'m saying that let them continue to compete on this level for a couple years in a row before we assume that they will continue to win and take the division before the season has even started.


I didn\'t think I implied any assumption that Boston would win the division, baseball is just too long with too many variables, I do think they have a hell of a shot though.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on March 31, 2008, 12:40:00 pm
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Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 31, 2008, 12:43:41 pm
*almost* went to opening day at yankees stadium today but I couldn\'t get out of work at 10am with my friend who wanted to go. Never saw a game there, would have been fun to start off the season cheering for toronto. oh well.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: siflandollie on March 31, 2008, 01:24:06 pm
who\'s on first?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on March 31, 2008, 01:50:01 pm
Quote from: siflandollie;185005
who\'s on first?


That\'s right.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 31, 2008, 03:36:38 pm
Stinking rain out!  It\'s not raining that hard out that a bunch of athletes getting paid millions of dollars couldn\'t play a 3 hours game that most of us would play for free for pure amusement.  Basically, I\'m pissed that I don\'t have a game on DVR to watch with my daughter when I get home tonight.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on March 31, 2008, 05:34:40 pm
Yeah play in the rain and watch a hitter get knocked unconscious because the ball slipped from a pitcher\'s hand due to excessive moisture. Yeah :sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on March 31, 2008, 05:37:47 pm
So I\'m away on business and about to miss my 1st opening day at Yankee Stadium in 7 years.  The rain was in itself a silver lining.

:biggrin:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on March 31, 2008, 06:59:57 pm
Who\'s watching the Cubbies?
Damn that was awesome!
WOW!
Hope they can pull this one out.

Oh well too bad.
On to the Angels Opener.
It\'s nice to see Torii Hunter get a nice response in his return to Minnesota on a different team. Classy.

Oh and opening the season in another country is a bunch of bullshit and just adds to the erosion of Baseball\'s traditions.
At least The Reds still get the honor of being the only team guaranteed Opening Day at Home
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on March 31, 2008, 07:17:27 pm
FUKUDOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..... best Cub debut (with this much hype going in) ever. He still hasn\'t smiled, and I love that. Business first.

I don\'t even care that they lost, hopefully with today\'s game they\'ll realize that Marmol is the closer and Wood has been done for 5 years.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on March 31, 2008, 07:55:43 pm
It\'s not like it was a monsoon - I live 20 minutes from the stadium and it was like mosquito piss for most of the day.  I wouldn\'t object if it was really coming down, but come on, it\'s opening day.  Now all of those people that had tickets are going to have to settle for going to the second game and the lucky bastards who had tickets for the day game get the opening game.  Not really fair to those that paid expecting to go to the first game, kind of like the people that bought tickets to see Billy Joel\'s final concert at Shea and then he adds more shows - nice way to end it out.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on March 31, 2008, 08:51:46 pm
gg today pitchie and arujny and all fans of the orange and blue!

johan looked pretty sharp.

i love his demeanor on the mound.

timely hitting by the offense too.

delgado scares me.

its all good tho.

because marlon anderson is the best pinch hitter on the planet.

(http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/images/2008/03/31/fcM6M94d.jpg)

baseball is back.

life is normal again.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Todd on April 01, 2008, 01:47:31 am
Quote from: leith;185041
Oh and opening the season in another country is a bunch of bullshit and just adds to the erosion of Baseball\'s traditions.

I don\'t follow baseball much anymore, but I TOTALLY agree!!! So much for the AMERICAN pastime!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on April 01, 2008, 02:34:32 am
Quote from: leith;185041


Oh and opening the season in another country is a bunch of bullshit and just adds to the erosion of Baseball\'s traditions.


C.R.E.A.M.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on April 01, 2008, 03:01:24 am
and C.L.E.A.R.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 01, 2008, 03:28:03 am
I\'ve been a baseball fan my whole life, and I really don\'t give two shits that they opened in Japan. Opening day for every fan is opening day in your own park anyways. Half the teams start on the road every year, this year 16/30 started on the road as opposed to 15/30. Sure, you can argue that someone didn\'t actually have a home crowd, but who really cares. If there were 50 total games maybe I would, but opening day is forgotten after a week when the reality of a 162 game grueling long season sets in. Talk to me if they hit Japanese turf in October, or even September, and I\'ll be sure to talk shit.

As for baseball\'s traditions, why don\'t we just remove their helmets, throw on some baggy wool shags come August, ban all elbow and shin protectors, and, oh yeah, deactivate all the fantastic Japanese talent loitering our treasured American soil. Fuck it, I say don\'t watch another game on TV this year and crowd the radio with your family waiting to hear the announcer clack two sticks together to emulate your \'traditional hero\'s\' dongs reaching cattle dens beyond the left field wall.

Am I exaggerating? Hell yeah. Is baseball even remotely "traditional" these days? Hell no. Good for the Japs. Enjoy seeing the best of the best when it actually counts for 3 out of the 2,430 games played a year.

:biggrin:  :duck:  :thumbsup:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on April 01, 2008, 03:36:43 am
Quote from: Gordo;185116
I\'ve been a baseball fan my whole life, and I really don\'t give two shits that they opened in Japan. Opening day for every fan is opening day in your own park anyways. Half the teams start on the road every year, this year 16/30 started on the road as opposed to 15/30. Sure, you can argue that someone didn\'t actually have a home crowd, but who really cares. If there were 50 total games maybe I would, but opening day is forgotten after a week when the reality of a 162 game grueling long season sets in. Talk to me if they hit Japanese turf in October, or even September, and I\'ll be sure to talk shit.

As for baseball\'s traditions, why don\'t we just remove their helmets, throw on some baggy wool shags come August, ban all elbow and shin protectors, and, oh yeah, deactivate all the fantastic Japanese talent loitering our treasured American soil. Fuck it, I say don\'t watch another game on TV this year and crowd the radio with your family waiting to hear the announcer clack two sticks together to emulate your \'traditional hero\'s\' dongs reaching cattle dens beyond the left field wall.

Am I exaggerating? Hell yeah. Is baseball even remotely "traditional" these days? Hell no. Good for the Japs. Enjoy seeing the best of the best when it actually counts for 3 out of the 2,430 games played a year.

:biggrin:  :duck:  :thumbsup:


Fucking kids these days.:sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 01, 2008, 03:42:50 am
Fucking hags these days. :sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on April 01, 2008, 03:44:35 am
:lol:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 01, 2008, 03:53:42 am
So, Chi-town Friday leith?

:makisupaisreallyconfusedrightnow:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 01, 2008, 03:28:40 pm
1-0! 172 to go!

Oh yeah motherfuckers! A 7-2 win against the Marlins yesterday clearly means the Mets are not only on their way to a World Series title, but are also obviously going to make Major League Baseball history by winning all 162 of their regular-season games this year.

It\'s obvious. Anyone who knows anything about baseball, who\'s ever played baseball, who\'s ever picked up a baseball, who\'s ever said the word baseball, and whose great great grandmother possibly necked with Abner Doubleday, knows the 2008 New York Mets are not only the greatest baseball team of all time, are not only the most superior athletic team to ever engage in competition (well, perhaps with the exception of some pigskin choke artists from that annoying state north of Connecticut), but are also the greatest group of 25 individuals ever gathered together for any cause, athletic or otherwise.

If you\'re a fan of sports, or even just a human being breathing on the planet, please don\'t miss your chance to be part of this historic event. Watch every Mets game and root for them, even if you hate them. Watch every pregame and postgame show, even if you\'re having sex at the time. Videotape every Sportscenter highlight and have them on a continuous reel, even if you\'re performing microsurgery on an infant. Seriously. You will be mired in a pool of regret if you don\'t follow every waking moment of this team\'s run to dominance. Cancel your daughter\'s wedding to watch Kiner\'s Korner. Blow off your son\'s graduation so you can OD on Cracker Jack\'s at Shea. Name your next child Omar Willie Johan Pedro Carlos Carlos Martinez Hernandez Sanchez Dwight Tom Doc Ya Gotta Believe Terrific El Duque Joe Smith Strawberry. Or if you have twins, name them 1969 and 1986.

Seriously. You are truly a moron, an ignorant, uninformed neophyte if you miss your opportunity to be part of what will undoubtedly be a glorious summer and fall.

Predictions: Johan and Pedro both go 35-0, David Wright wins the quintuple crown, Carlos Delgado hits 100 home runs, John Maine and Oliver Perez each throw 15 perfect games, Billy Wagner records no saves because the Mets will win every game by 10 runs, the Phillies and Braves will lose every game except for when they play each other, Willie Randolph will come up with a second cure for polio, Omar Minaya will end the unrest in Darfour, and Fred Wilpon will discover another planet, which will be appropriately named, Amazin\'.

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I\'d also like to say that I consider this to be the \'best writing\' of my esteemed .info career and that I expect my Pulitzer to be PM\'d to me by sundown.

It\'s outta here!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 01, 2008, 03:29:08 pm
162/162.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 01, 2008, 05:24:19 pm
Absolutely FANTASTIC post Pitch. Laughing my ass off right now.

Quick question though, If Wright is achieving the quintuple crown and Delgado is dropping 100 bombs..............??

:lol:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on April 02, 2008, 12:31:02 am
Matsuzaka looking good tonight.  9 K\'s, only 1 run on a HR, pitched 6.2in, 0 walks and only 2 hits.

BTW: Variteck was robbed.  Clearly a Home Run.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 02, 2008, 02:30:13 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;185196
1-0! 161 to go!


Shouldn\'t it be 172 to go?


On a side note, it looks like Pedro is back to his old form...soon to be added to the DL. Fortunately for him he will have some company after DL-gado plays a couple more games. However, that would be good for the Mets as he\'s garbage to begin with.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 02, 2008, 02:48:37 pm
You are right about the whole 172 thing.

However, you\'re wrong about Delgado. If the Mets have a "garbage" player who hits 38 home runs, as Delgado did two years ago, along with being the team\'s best performer in the playoffs, then they\'re not doing too bad.

Translation: Delgado is primed for a big year, as are the Mets, regardless of the outcome of Pedro\'s MRI.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 02, 2008, 03:15:19 pm
I\'ll agree that Delgado was your best playoff players 2 years ago but that doesn\'t mean much if they miss the playoffs again. If anything the Mets are primed for another big disappointment considering all the hype and expectations from signing Santana. This is not directed to you personally but, in general, I just don\'t see how adding Santana to the Mets rotation skyrockets them to the World Series. There is way too much hype surrounding a player who is only going to start every 5th game or so. Don\'t get me wrong, he will finish in the top 5 in many NL statistics, but that doesn\'t mean the rest of the Mets rotation is going to be good or anywhere near his level.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 02, 2008, 03:18:56 pm
Of course, this could change if Pedro is out for an extended period of time, but the Mets\' No. 3 and 4 starters--Oliver Perez and John Maine--each won 15 games last year. Not many teams in baseball can say that.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 03, 2008, 09:01:50 am
Good to see Hoffman getting back to his September form. After getting two outs in the bottom of the 9th he then allows an RBI single then a 3-run HR. Heath Bell can\'t take over soon enough.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 03, 2008, 10:30:45 am
Quote from: booztravlr;185350
I\'ll agree that Delgado was your best playoff players 2 years ago but that doesn\'t mean much if they miss the playoffs again. If anything the Mets are primed for another big disappointment considering all the hype and expectations from signing Santana. This is not directed to you personally but, in general, I just don\'t see how adding Santana to the Mets rotation skyrockets them to the World Series. There is way too much hype surrounding a player who is only going to start every 5th game or so. Don\'t get me wrong, he will finish in the top 5 in many NL statistics, but that doesn\'t mean the rest of the Mets rotation is going to be good or anywhere near his level.

boozey my friend you are either being a serious hater or ignoring the facts.

either way your underestimating and shortchanging the team in a big way.

you act like they added santana to a team of scrubs and expect a world series which is not the case

 they were a solid team before they ever signed him and they are even better now.

first of all they were one game away from the world series two years ago. they were also HANDS DOWN the best team in the NL that year.

you talk like they sucked last year which they did not. they just choked at the end of the year.

 they were in first place all year right until the very last day of year when tom glavine gave up seven runs in the first inning.


they are a very solid team all around this year.

they have a great rotation. their ace is arguably the best pitcher in baseball. number two is three time cy young award winner (granted and aging one) number  3 and 4 are both capable of being lights and itching 200 innings and winning 16-19 games. and we have good options for the firth spot too and decent replacements for injured starters.

defensively we are VERY solid. jose is an amazing short sto. tron is great center fielder. churchy has a cannon of an arm in right. and schneider is a great defensive catcher.

the bullpen is solid as hell too.

we have great 7th 8th and 9th guys (feliciano, heliman/sanchez, wagner) a great long reliever (sosa) and a few good specialists as well.

offensively we have an absolutely fantastic 1-4 with two of the biggest superstars in baseball not to mentions tron and a perfect number 2  hitter/

5-8 is a bit iffy but delgado is still capable of 30 hrs and 100 rbi;s still. alou when healthy produces at about the same level as dwright and we have great back ups when he is out. churchy is a very solid number 7 hitter capable of hitting .285 with 25 homers.

the bench is VERY good also.  easly, endy, and the best pinch hitter on the face of the earth.

overall it is a very well rounded and team with few holes and we have a lot of motivation to bury the competition after last year. if we stay relatively healthy we will own.

we are capable of throwing 4 lights out pitchers in a row and putting up very big offensive numbers. how many other teams can say that?

did u see the game last night?

when was the last time the padres beat someone 13-0????????????????

when was the last time your forth best  pitcher went 6 scoreless with 8 strike outs?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 03, 2008, 11:15:04 am
I stand behind what I said but I\'m also being a bit of a hater. Living in NY I get subjected to so much Yankees and Mets crap, along with Red Sox, that it just gets annoying after a while.

I don\'t think the Padres have the firepower like the Mets do to put up double digit runs every week, especially in their ballpark. But last time I checked you only need to have 1 more run to win a game. If it\'s a high scoring game the Padres might be in trouble but I have faith in their pitchers over the course of a season.

I watched most of last night\'s game. Perez def looked solid. Let\'s see how lights out he is when its September and he\'s pitching against a good team with a playoff spot on the line.



On a side note, if you own DirecTV you should really get the MLB Ticket this season. Besides offering all 162 games for each team (minus Sunday Night baseball games) it\'s upgrade to 28 channels (along with their HD counterparts). For most games you can pick between the home or away team\'s local telecast. They also increased from 10 to 40 HD games per week. If there are a bunch of games on at the same time you can either watch the Game Mix channel; 8 games on the same screen, scroll over which one you want audio for, or the String Zone Channel; anytime a team is in scoring position it brings you to that game. No commercials, tons of highlights and also in HD.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on April 03, 2008, 01:08:17 pm
Am I the only person who likes to watch ONLY my team.  I\'ll watch the Yanks when they\'re on, but I\'m not going to spend 3 hours watching boston or the mets or any other team because it\'s on.  

On another note, I think it\'s way to early for any team to start making claims towards the post season.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 03, 2008, 01:39:22 pm
If I\'m home at 7:00 and have nothing else going on I\'ll scroll through the available HD games to see what\'s on. If there\'s a good pitchers duel or divisional rivalry or just a close score late in a game I\'ll watch it. The Padres don\'t usually play until 10:00 so I\'ll at least catch the middle/end of the 7:00 games while waiting for the Padres game to start. Baseball is my favorite sport, so I\'m probably in the minority with the amount I watch. I\'m guessing that\'s somewhere between 30-40 hours a week.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 03, 2008, 02:06:13 pm
ollie was 5-2 in his last seven starts with an era under 3 last year

i only watch the mets. no time for anything else. i watch baseball tonight on met off days. but thats all i see of other teams.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 08, 2008, 07:43:23 pm
I\'d like to extend a vote of confidence that, despite the slow start, I think the New York Mets are going to win the National League East this year, and will do so with relative ease.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 08, 2008, 09:04:51 pm
mets lost. jimmy rollins sprained his ankle. Ill take it.

all the pieces are in place for us. but we still have to execute.

I think TRON is gonna have a great year....i.e. .287 43 hrs 131 rbi ton of doubles 30 sb gold glove nlcs mvp

also i think NOT being in first place for a while will actually be good for this team. the reason we collapsed last year is we got too comfortable in that role and forgot what second and third feels like and why every loss and win matters.

anyway...go BIG pELF!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on April 09, 2008, 01:51:34 am
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loved seeing Buckner throw out the first pitch for Boston.  With all the shit he has taken over the years this ovation was well deserved.

Detroit 0-7 :doh:
to early to say anything about how the rest of the season is gonna go but what a shitty way to start for the Tigers, esp when expectations were so high.  From what I saw of the game they played down right awful baseball.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 11, 2008, 11:17:53 am
I watched the Mets/Phillies game off and on last night. I thought the play at the plate (Reyes in the 12th) was closer than the umpire made it seem, which it was, but I think he got the call right. Coming back to win the series 2-1 has to give the Mets a lot of confidence going forward.

Red Sox/Yankees series starts tonight. Where\'s the beef?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 11, 2008, 03:11:16 pm
Huge win for the Mets last night, though Heilman\'s gonna lose the eighth-inning job if he doesn\'t shape up.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 11, 2008, 04:20:22 pm
that was one of the closest and strangest plays at the plate i have ever seen.

hard to judge because the tag was on his back as he was moving forward and his hand was going down on the plate. in one camera angle u can see the tag but not the plate and vice versa in the other angle.

but even with all the weirdness of this play I think the ump got the call right because tie goes to the runner and that was too close to call one way or the other even on the replay.


nice hold by the mets pen after heilman blew it. he will bounce back though.

good game though.

I cant wait to see johan mow down the phillys
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 11, 2008, 04:43:22 pm
^ At least Reyes touched the plate. Matt Holiday face planted in the dirt and was called safe with a playoff spot on the line. Def quite bitter about it but it never should have come down to an extra game.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 13, 2008, 02:57:19 am
much thanks to derick for the tickets. Boston beer was packed, but the service was really quick once we got the table. Double visions are awesome although I have no idea what is in them. We saw the hawk, met some crazy drunken people in the bleachers, got rained on, saw the sox pull ahead only to fall behind and then pull ahead again, then a rain delay in the 8th even though they could have called the game after the 7th and rewarded us the win, and got rained on hard for 2 hours. During this time matts call we moved up to first plate and then moved again to right behind home plate where we set up camp. Everyone came in and we stayed by the seats, so we saw the last 2 innings from the front row directly behind home plate. There is a little blonde hair girl, and then going left Jocelyn was definitely on tv, I might have been and matt was next to me but off screen, at least for the sd broadcast.

Best (and longest at 5 hour) sox/yankees game I\'ve ever seen, and it is now official that I have seen more games with jocelyn than anyone else.

:thumbsup:

They are on my myspace, but here are some of the 450 or so pics I took:

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Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 14, 2008, 10:01:25 am
From left to right, Matt Vallo, me, Jocelyn. Jocelyns dad is in the second row between Matt and me.

(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2690/pryan1eh1.jpg)
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5481/pryan7yd6.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 14, 2008, 10:31:03 am
Great pics! Must have been great to sit behind home plate for the last two innings.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on April 14, 2008, 11:21:59 pm
so jealous. :)  Hope you had fun.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 15, 2008, 10:49:18 pm
good game all around tonight

i really believe in this team

they have the superstars who can flat out carry a team on any given night, the veterans, the young bloods, speed, power, can play small and  big ball, all around solid position players in every spot and a tremendous bench. great defense. good fundamentals.  lots of very good arms in the bullpen for every situation and an above average starting rotation headed by a true ace. big pelf looks like this is his year. team chemistry is starting to gel. lets go mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 16, 2008, 08:15:31 am
did you hear how some guy fell 2 stories to his death at shea? his 2 daughters were there with him, and his wife was home pregnant with their third. :(

how the hell does something like that happen?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 16, 2008, 08:23:54 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;186480
did you hear how some guy fell 2 stories to his death at shea? his 2 daughters were there with him, and his wife was home pregnant with their third. :(

how the hell does something like that happen?


he fell 4 stories, and it happens when you act like a tool and try to slide down an escalator rail. sucks for his family, but probably good for at least a darwin award nomination.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 16, 2008, 09:01:51 am
Quote from: Klout;185389
[2008-04-03] when was the last time your forth best  pitcher went 6 scoreless with 8 strike outs?


I figured I\'d have to at least wait until the All Star break to rebuttal this one...

Randy Wolf was 7 outs away from a no hitter last night. The single that broke it was only a foot or so off his glove up the middle. He also had 9 strikeouts. Not too bad for a free agent signing and #4 in the rotation.

Go Padres
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on April 16, 2008, 09:16:32 am
Quote from: davepeck;186481
Quote from: FrankZappa;186480
did you hear how some guy fell 2 stories to his death at shea? his 2 daughters were there with him, and his wife was home pregnant with their third. :(

how the hell does something like that happen?


he fell 4 stories, and it happens when you act like a tool and try to slide down an escalator rail. sucks for his family, but probably good for at least a darwin award nomination.


except for the fact that he already spread the dumbass seed to 3 kids......
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 16, 2008, 09:40:23 am
Quote from: booztravlr;186484
Quote from: Klout;185389
[2008-04-03] when was the last time your forth best  pitcher went 6 scoreless with 8 strike outs?


I figured I\'d have to at least wait until the All Star break to rebuttal this one...

Randy Wolf was 7 outs away from a no hitter last night. The single that broke it was only a foot or so off his glove up the middle. He also had 9 strikeouts. Not too bad for a free agent signing and #4 in the rotation.

Go Padres


yes but is your number FIVE guy 2-0 with a 1.5 era? ;)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 16, 2008, 09:53:52 am
Haha!

No, he\'s 0-0, 13IP, 6k, 0.00 ERA. If he had some run support he\'d be doing fine.

First night of four Mets @ Padres games is June 5th. We might be getting extra sloppy at the Electric Company that night.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 16, 2008, 09:56:32 am
mets play the padres for the first time the day of the electric company show. could be an epic three night breakfast run and  game sweep for the mets!

hahah jus tlooked that up too. didnt even notice it was 4 tho.

is there even a tv in the eletric co? i  dont ever remember seeing one
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 16, 2008, 10:14:20 am
Yeah, they have one by their second entrance door. I remember watching some March Madness games on it during their St. Patty\'s Day show last year. I don\'t think it\'s very big but it\'ll do. Brittany will be coming to this show so she could probably drive us.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on April 16, 2008, 10:17:57 am
if were red roofin it i dont mind drivin at all
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on April 16, 2008, 11:18:50 pm
God.  What a fuckin game.   NY-15-BOS-9, 4+hrs
lots of hits on both sides.  tough loss.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on April 17, 2008, 11:07:52 pm
2 fuckin BOMBS by Manny, can\'t wait till the summer, when I switch to 1st shift so I can actually watch games.  (other than the having to be at work @ 7am oof)  Cause I only get Yankee radio at work and I can\'t stand the Yankee radio guy, every fuckin fly ball "It\'s high it\'s far it\'s .......... caught." :rolleyes:  Even most of the NY fans I work with can\'t stand him.

Would much rather Manny be this hot later in the season, there\'s almost no way he can maintain this, but I\'ll certainly take it.

Manny HR count 495 :)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 18, 2008, 08:57:42 am
F\'n Rockies. Peavy pitched a gem (8IP, 11K, 4H, 3BB, 0ER) but neither team could score. I passed out around the 17th inning. Can\'t believe it made it to 22 innings. Longest game since 1993. Having to deal with the drive to NYC post Northampton tonight, I\'m regretting staying up past the 10th.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 18, 2008, 09:50:10 am
22 innings and it wasn\'t even that much longer than the yankees/red sox 8.5 inning game wednesday night. :sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 18, 2008, 10:30:05 am
Yeah, scoring only 3 runs on 25 hits will do that. 6:16 game length is pretty nuts but considering they played that many innings it really wasn\'t that long (~17 minutes per inning which includes all the commercial breaks between each half inning).
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 23, 2008, 08:51:43 am
Ugh, the Padres are 3rd to last in runs scored (72) and second to last in team batting average (.240). Their bullpen has the third worst era (5.54) and a 1-8 record, which is dead last.

It\'s going to be a long season if they don\'t pick it up sometime soon. Starting next week they play a stretch of 19 games in 20 days, 16 of which are on the road. I know it\'s still early but this 20 day stretch will make or break their season.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on April 24, 2008, 06:47:19 pm
In the 8th last night I looked over at my buddy Brian and said "we need an insurance run because Hoffman is going to give up a run."
sure enough! FUCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

At least the Angels took 2 of 3 in boston!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 27, 2008, 06:54:52 pm
I mean, the Mets have mostly thread water so far this year, but anytime you beat Hudson and Smoltz to get two of three, you take it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on April 27, 2008, 08:26:01 pm
Tough couple of games for the Red Sox. Buchholz pitched a great game last night, and then one two-run homer blew it. Today Beckett threw a career-high 13 strikeouts, yet the game was still lost 3-0. Rough.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 28, 2008, 09:53:46 am
where else but espn do you get told "you can\'t come into the cafe to get a coffee right now, manny is in here shooting a comercial."

damn you manny!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on April 28, 2008, 10:34:39 pm
Going to the game tomorrow. Hope it doesn\'t get rained out.

After the game, I plan to drink one of each of the different beers at Boston Beer Works, and two shots of Jager from each bar within a 10-block radius of Lansdowne. Then I\'m going to drive across the Tobin Bridge with my headlights off, belting "Born in the U.S.A.," just for Yoda.   ;)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 29, 2008, 01:31:09 am
Quote from: jocelyn;187839
Going to the game tomorrow. Hope it doesn\'t get rained out.

After the game, I plan to drink one of each of the different beers at Boston Beer Works, and two shots of Jager from each bar within a 10-block radius of Lansdowne. Then I\'m going to drive across the Tobin Bridge with my headlights off, belting "Born in the U.S.A.," just for Yoda.   ;)


rotfl
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Todd on April 29, 2008, 01:35:55 am
Quote from: jocelyn;187839
Going to the game tomorrow. Hope it doesn\'t get rained out.

After the game, I plan to drink one of each of the different beers at Boston Beer Works, and two shots of Jager from each bar within a 10-block radius of Lansdowne. Then I\'m going to drive across the Tobin Bridge with my headlights off, belting "Born in the U.S.A.," just for Yoda.   ;)


Hit a couple parked cars while you\'re at it!! :duck:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on April 29, 2008, 12:01:36 pm
Ohhhhhh snap!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 29, 2008, 01:53:00 pm
I know you\'re just joking about the other thread, but as this is a public forum and you don\'t know if someone else reading this may have lost someone in this way, let\'s try and  keep the jokes a little more tasteful.

try to. (takes off admin hat)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Todd on April 29, 2008, 02:50:59 pm
Yes daddy...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 04, 2008, 07:33:41 pm
Way to take two of three on the road against a very solid team.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 04, 2008, 08:26:52 pm
yep heck of a game today. I thought we were fucked when willie let sosa take the ball but somehow we got out of it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 05, 2008, 08:51:06 pm
http://www.outincenterfield.com/blog/2008/03/oh_my_sweet_lord_1.html
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 06, 2008, 12:31:42 am
Quote
NASHUA, N.H.—A woman accused of running down a man in her car after a Red Sox-Yankees argument in a bar never hit her brakes as she accelerated toward the small group he was in, a prosecutor said Monday.

more stories like this"She never braked, and she accelerated at a high speed for about 200 feet. She went directly at this group of people," prosecutor Susan Morrell said of Ivonne Hernandez, who is charged with reckless second-degree murder in the death early Friday of Matthew Beaudoin, 29.

Hernandez was ordered held without bail after being arraigned Monday in Nashua District Court. The charges, including aggravated drunken driving, are felonies, so Hernandez could not enter a plea.

Her public defender, James Quay, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Authorities won\'t describe the argument beforehand in Slade\'s Food & Spirits, but witnesses said it heated up when Hernandez identified herself as a New York Yankees fan. Nashua, 45 miles northwest of Boston, is Red Sox country.

Bartender Tanya Moran said the argument spilled outside, and at least one person in a group that included Beaudoin began chanting "Yankees suck!" when they saw a Yankees sticker on Hernandez\'s car.

Hernandez, 43, allegedly gunned her car and struck Beaudoin and his friend Maria Hughes, 21. Beaudoin\'s sister Faith Beaudoin said Hughes had only minor injuries, because her brother shielded her. Beaudoin died of massive head trauma at a hospital, Morrell said.

Hernandez, of Nashua, was arrested at the scene. She acknowledged she had been drinking and refused to take a breath-alcohol test, said Morrell, a senior assistant attorney general. Hernandez said she had been in an argument with the group.

"She indicated to police that she wanted to scare this group of people. She thought they would get out of the way," Morrell said.

Moran told The Telegraph of Nashua during the weekend that Beaudoin came to the bar regularly to socialize, sing karaoke and have fun.

"He came to hang out. He didn\'t really drink much," she said.

Chris Lovett, a disc jockey at Slade\'s, told the New Hampshire Union Leader that Beaudoin kept to himself and "wasn\'t an instigator."

Faith Beaudoin said her brother, who lived in Nashua, was a 1997 graduate of Nashua High School who worked dealing poker at Sharky\'s in Manchester and Nashua. She said his organs, including his heart, live and kidneys, were donated in hopes of saving other people\'s lives.

"He was always helping people when he was alive, and he\'s still saving lives," she said, choking back tears during the weekend.


This is just downright awful.  It\'s fuckin baseball people.  Just baseball.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 06, 2008, 01:15:39 am
Jeez Slade\'s is usually a pretty low-key place.

I have a feeling this had as much to do with alcohol as it did with baseball.

Terrible.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 09, 2008, 11:31:15 pm
oh man Papelbon what happened....
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 10, 2008, 11:31:37 am
^^  2 nights in a row ?!!? hes killing me right now, thank god its early
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 15, 2008, 11:52:54 am
manny\'s high fiving the dude in the stands after a running catch and before throwing it in to double up the guy at first was fkin hilarious
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 17, 2008, 03:40:15 pm
I usually stay up-to-date on things via this annual thread.   Things have been quiet/calm thus far.  

Just noticed the perennially hapless Tampa Bay Devil Rays are off to a good start.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 17, 2008, 07:45:16 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;190089

Just noticed the perennially hapless Tampa Bay Devil Rays are off to a good start.


Yeah never thought I\'d hear Steinbrenner say, "The Yankees need to start playing like Tampa Bay."
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 17, 2008, 10:37:04 pm
nice win for the metsies today. that play at the plate was fantastic. totally changed the momentum of the entire game. we need to start playing better than .500 ball though.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 18, 2008, 12:27:59 am
Quote from: jocelyn;190104
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;190089

Just noticed the perennially hapless Tampa Bay Devil Rays are off to a good start.


Yeah never thought I\'d hear Steinbrenner say, "The Yankees need to start playing like Tampa Bay."



i also never thought steinbrenner jr. would say " the players are working for me and my brother, and they get paid more than us, that doesnt seem right"  something or pretty close to that.  what a prick
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on May 18, 2008, 01:31:15 am
Quote from: Klout;190115
nice win for the metsies today. that play at the plate was fantastic. totally changed the momentum of the entire game. we need to start playing better than .500 ball though.


yea that was a nice block by Scchneider. Hope they take advantage of this series with A Rod not in the line up for the Yanks and then whoop the shit out of Atlanta
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: skalnbyc on May 18, 2008, 02:08:00 am
Dooze Alert:  Pitcher Barry Zito of the SF Giants: 0-8 record so far this season.  $126 million 7-year deal.

Peep that meltdown.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 18, 2008, 05:28:18 am
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;190133

Peep that meltdown.


Al, is that you?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 18, 2008, 03:30:08 pm
Quote
Right-hander Justin Masterson will make his second start for the Red Sox on Tuesday, coming up from Double-A Portland. Bartolo Colon, the 2005 American League Cy Young Award winner who signed a Minor League contract with Boston in February, will make his Sox debut on Wednesday, coming up from Triple-A Pawtucket

It\'s not etched in stone, but I think we certainly have a plan," Francona said. "But barring weather, which looks nice, or injuries, Masterson will start on Tuesday, then he will go back [to Portland], and Colon will start on Wednesday. Both pitchers have been spoken to. They understand that this is in all likelihood what\'s going to happen, but if weather gets in the way or something happens, that can change."
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 18, 2008, 10:36:44 pm
hellz yah metsies are piling it on the yanks. 11-2
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 18, 2008, 10:37:47 pm
^^not shocking, yankees fuckin suck so far this year.  i know its not the super-stars, must be the new mgr.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 18, 2008, 10:41:30 pm
well posada and a-rod are out. but we did ding up wang for like 7 runs.

and oliver \'peep the meltdown\' perez went past the 6th inning for the first time this year so I\'ll take it :thumbsup:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 18, 2008, 11:33:10 pm
Well, as has been already stated, the Mets have thread water throughout most of the season.

But boy does it feel good to watch them clobber the shit out of the Yankees.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 19, 2008, 09:47:37 pm
Congratulations to Jon Lester!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 19, 2008, 10:09:42 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;190298
Congratulations to Jon Lester!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 19, 2008, 10:55:29 pm
Jon Lester pitches a no-hitter!  It sure is fun being a Red Sox fan!  Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?  Imagine how much fun you could be having.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 19, 2008, 10:58:00 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Jon Lester pitches a no-hitter!  It sure is fun being a Red Sox fan!  Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?  Imagine how much fun you could be having.


:banboogy::bandown::banboogy:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 19, 2008, 11:14:41 pm
No Hitta!

Bummed I was at work and didn\'t get to see this.  But great fuckin news.  2 Sox rookies in 2 seasons.

Way to go Lester!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 20, 2008, 07:20:36 am
also congrats to varitek, first cather to ever catch 4 no hitters
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on May 20, 2008, 09:05:27 am
i was at the game. i bought standing room only seats and ended up walking in and sitting at the lower box a couple rows back from the KC dugout. good times
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on May 20, 2008, 09:49:53 am
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As stunning as the news was, Jake Peavy’s placement on the disabled list with an inflamed flexor mass near his right elbow was not the biggest explosion in the Padres’ clubhouse Monday.

After the Padres lost for the 23rd time in their last 31 games, general manager Kevin Towers went off.

“We’re bad, no question about it,” Towers said. “And I’ve seen no signs to tell us or our fans that we’re going to turn it around.

“I’m not going to watch this for another four months. Other than our starting pitching and the back end of the bullpen… it’s all negatives except for (Brian) Giles and (Adrian Gonzalez).

“We’re not running the bases. The defense is shabby. Our 0-23 record when behind after seven innings shows we’re not able to come back. The morale shouldn’t be good. If the morale is good, we have major problems. If the morale is good, they have no expectations of being better. Morale should be horrible."


This is about 2 weeks overdue. The team should have been told they are garbage weeks ago, before the 16 out of 19 game road trip, in order to try and restore some fire in their game. This season is lost and has been since the start of May. To think, they were 8-6 at one point. Now, they\'re 16-30. I\'m still going to watch as many games as I can but for Towers to put all the blame on the players, after signing the carcas of Jim Edmonds in CF, not signing a LF and spending money on Mark Prior\'s chicken wing of an arm (who hasn\'t even pitched yet), Towers really didn\'t give them much of a chance to win. He relied way too much on pitchers to carry this team again.[/vent]

go Padres
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 20, 2008, 10:52:29 am
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 20, 2008, 02:48:52 pm
Quote from: Klout;190374
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO.


Haha, well, it sounds like booztravlr sure does!  Hey Booz, I\'d like to extend to you a personal invitation to join Red Sox Nation.  With you being a fan of an NL West team you couldn\'t possibly have less of a conflict.  We have the greatest clutch hitter of our lifetime, a hall-of-famer about to reach 500 home runs, the best clutch pitcher in the game, two second-year starters who have both thrown no hitters, the best young outfielder in the game who steals second and third on back-to-back pitches, 2 titles in the last 4 years, and the chances of postseason play are over 50% each year.  Stop rooting for that awful team in that ho-hum yawnball division and come play with the big boys.  We\'d love to have you my man.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on May 20, 2008, 03:52:51 pm
No thanks. I\'d rather sit through an 0-162 Padres season than be caught wearing a Red Sox hat.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on May 20, 2008, 04:05:27 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;190425
Quote from: Klout;190374
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO.


Haha, well, it sounds like booztravlr sure does!  Hey Booz, I\'d like to extend to you a personal invitation to join Red Sox Nation.  With you being a fan of an NL West team you couldn\'t possibly have less of a conflict.  We have the greatest clutch hitter of our lifetime, a hall-of-famer about to reach 500 home runs, the best clutch pitcher in the game, two second-year starters who have both thrown no hitters, the best young outfielder in the game who steals second and third on back-to-back pitches, 2 titles in the last 4 years, and the chances of postseason play are over 50% each year.  Stop rooting for that awful team in that ho-hum yawnball division and come play with the big boys.  We\'d love to have you my man.


ahh, yes. there\'s the word i was looking for to describe your post: yawnball! thanks, wolf!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on May 20, 2008, 04:59:40 pm
Quote from: derickw;190352
i was at the game. i bought standing room only seats and ended up walking in and sitting at the lower box a couple rows back from the KC dugout. good times


As was I...field box behind red sox dugout.

I felt like a total dick for rocking my royals gear.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 20, 2008, 08:02:52 pm
Quote from: davepeck;190435
Quote from: Wolfman;190425
Quote from: Klout;190374
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO.


Haha, well, it sounds like booztravlr sure does!  Hey Booz, I\'d like to extend to you a personal invitation to join Red Sox Nation.  With you being a fan of an NL West team you couldn\'t possibly have less of a conflict.  We have the greatest clutch hitter of our lifetime, a hall-of-famer about to reach 500 home runs, the best clutch pitcher in the game, two second-year starters who have both thrown no hitters, the best young outfielder in the game who steals second and third on back-to-back pitches, 2 titles in the last 4 years, and the chances of postseason play are over 50% each year.  Stop rooting for that awful team in that ho-hum yawnball division and come play with the big boys.  We\'d love to have you my man.


ahh, yes. there\'s the word i was looking for to describe your post: yawnball! thanks, wolf!


Sorry Chip, but if you were that bored with it then you wouldn\'t have read it.  I do apologize if it seemed exclusionary, it was not meant just for Booz.  You, of course, will be welcomed into Red Sox Nation with open arms as well!  Thanks for the props on the good made-up word, I kinda like it too.  Describes about 80% of the NL and about half the AL perfectly.

Hmmm...which would piss you off more?  Rooting for a team that\'s in last place and 6.5 games out, or tuning in to watch your team only to find that they\'re down 9-0 after two innings to a crappy team?  Yankee fans don\'t need to answer...you\'ve got both!  rotfl rotfl rotfl
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on May 20, 2008, 11:34:27 pm
obviously jon lester isn\'t quite the writing coach that tom brady was. "yawnball" indeed.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 21, 2008, 12:12:52 am
Quote from: davepeck;190466
obviously jon lester isn\'t quite the writing coach that tom brady was. "yawnball" indeed.


(http://www.healthbolt.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/huh.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 21, 2008, 12:56:43 am
I honestly kinda feel bad for the Yankees, they get A-Rod back and lose Jeter in the same game.  tough break man.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on May 21, 2008, 07:09:18 am
Quote from: Me!;190483
I honestly kinda feel bad for the Yankees, they get A-Rod back and lose Jeter in the same game.  tough break man.


I have come to the conclusion that in terms of teams that have rivals in Boston, the Yankees are not the worst to go play. They were annoying with all the 1918 stuff for the last, well, 90 some-odd years, but they were in no way as bad as the habs and their gay OLE chant.

Ohio state sucks too, while I\'m at it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on May 21, 2008, 07:42:57 am
Quote from: celtics blog 5/20
The Celtics resorted to some old-fashioned Sox-Yankees rivalry to get the crowd pumped coming out of the last timeout.

The Jumbotron first showed the score of tonight\'s Sox game: "Red Sox 2, Royals 1," then switched to, "Orioles 12, NY Yankees 2" with a note below that read, "Yankees remain in last place."
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on May 21, 2008, 07:49:58 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;190498
Quote from: celtics blog 5/20
The Celtics resorted to some old-fashioned Sox-Yankees rivalry to get the crowd pumped coming out of the last timeout.

The Jumbotron first showed the score of tonight\'s Sox game: "Red Sox 2, Royals 1," then switched to, "Orioles 12, NY Yankees 2" with a note below that read, "Yankees remain in last place."


They did the same during the bruins games.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 21, 2008, 08:16:23 am
Quote from: Wolfman;190425
Quote from: Klout;190374
Quote from: Wolfman;190317
Don\'t you wish you were a Red Sox fan too?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO.


Haha, well, it sounds like booztravlr sure does!  Hey Booz, I\'d like to extend to you a personal invitation to join Red Sox Nation.  With you being a fan of an NL West team you couldn\'t possibly have less of a conflict.  We have the greatest clutch hitter of our lifetime, a hall-of-famer about to reach 500 home runs, the best clutch pitcher in the game, two second-year starters who have both thrown no hitters, the best young outfielder in the game who steals second and third on back-to-back pitches, 2 titles in the last 4 years, and the chances of postseason play are over 50% each year.  Stop rooting for that awful team in that ho-hum yawnball division and come play with the big boys.  We\'d love to have you my man.

Do you see what years of hearing this same garbage from Yankee fans has done? Wolfman has turned into the very thing that I, as a Red Sox fan, hated about Yankee fans for years. Act like you\'ve been there before.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on May 21, 2008, 09:13:53 am
The Yankees are down right now, but we\'ve come back from bigger deficits to win the division.  I\'m not saying that is what is going to happen this season, but if you listen to the radio stations in the NY area, they\'re basically saying that the season is over and the Mets are the team to watch when they only have two more wins than us.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 21, 2008, 09:19:32 am
last year they were 14.5 back from the red sox in like may or june, and ended up getting a close second in best record.  so who knows, thats why they play 162 !
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 21, 2008, 11:01:19 am
Quote from: tyzack;190494 the habs and their gay OLE chant.

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Yeah what is with that? It\'s super annoying.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on May 21, 2008, 11:03:07 am
They think they are European.

They talk about their "club" and wear flags and are generally, well, gay.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 21, 2008, 11:13:08 am
Don\'t going insulting gay people now. :lol:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on May 21, 2008, 11:45:07 am
man, id rather tied the yanks series and taken 2 out of 3 against these damn braves. ryan church got kneed upside the head too last play of that awful 2nd game. their play frustrates me especially when you realize how many base runners get left on
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on May 21, 2008, 12:45:51 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;190523
Don\'t going insulting gay people now. :lol:


I almost editted my post to say "And I mean no offense to gay people, but..."
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on May 21, 2008, 11:04:17 pm
Wow. Chris Young (Padres pitcher) just took a ball to the face off of Pujols\' bat. They didn\'t show any replays on the Padres feed nor the Cardinals feed but it looked like it hit him at the top of the nose. His face was covered in blood and so was his jersey. Later on in the same inning Bard was protecting home plate with his left leg and as Pujols slid home he turned his foot/knee completely sideways. Hopefully they\'re both all right. Obviously, neither of these were intentional, but come on! Peavy goes down last week and now this. How about some good luck in San Diego for a change.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on May 22, 2008, 08:16:39 am
Quote from: bezerker;190507
last year they were 14.5 back from the red sox in like may or june, and ended up getting a close second in best record.  so who knows, thats why they play 162 !


thats why i don\'t really pay attention till after the all star break
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 22, 2008, 09:23:22 am
Quote from: booztravlr;190602
Wow. Chris Young (Padres pitcher) just took a ball to the face off of Pujols\' bat. They didn\'t show any replays on the Padres feed nor the Cardinals feed but it looked like it hit him at the top of the nose. His face was covered in blood and so was his jersey. Later on in the same inning Bard was protecting home plate with his left leg and as Pujols slid home he turned his foot/knee completely sideways. Hopefully they\'re both all right. Obviously, neither of these were intentional, but come on! Peavy goes down last week and now this. How about some good luck in San Diego for a change.


Wow I\'m sorry to hear that. I never like players getting hurt, no mater what team they play for.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 22, 2008, 09:58:50 am
FIRE WILLIE!

that is all.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 27, 2008, 01:18:21 pm
Despite prior contrary comments, I will now go on the record as saying that Willie needs to be fired. I mean, something has to be done before this team drops 10 games out of first.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on May 27, 2008, 01:38:46 pm
I\'m not sure that I agree with firing Willie, but if you\'re going to go to that extreme, I think you also need to take a high paid player and fire him for underperforming (if it\'s possible to do with contracts).  I am of the belief that there is only so much a manager/coach can do to motivate a player, it\'s up to the million dollar players to go out there and earn their checks.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on May 27, 2008, 01:49:31 pm
fire willie. bench delgado. Our offense is a dooze without church and alou in the line up.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 27, 2008, 03:52:14 pm
Willie = secret Yankee saboteur!  What\'s next, Don Mattingly a coach on the Red Sox?  Get rid of that Yankee scum and bring in Mookie Wilson!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 27, 2008, 11:39:10 pm
as of this morning:

Quote
2008 MLB All-Star Balloting : American League  
First Base  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Youkilis, K. Red Sox 419,813
2. Morneau, J. Twins 217,956
3. Giambi, J. Yankees 168,185
4. Guillen, C. Tigers 134,338
5. Pena, C. Rays 117,065
Second Base  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Pedroia, D. Red Sox 384,648
2. Cano, R. Yankees 219,778

3. Polanco, P. Tigers 159,729
4. Roberts, B. Orioles 113,774
5. Kinsler, I. Rangers 102,294
Third base  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Rodriguez, A. Yankees 429,238
2. Lowell, M. Red Sox 250,664

3. Cabrera, M. Tigers 201,589
4. Crede, J. White Sox 138,143
5. Rolen, S. Blue Jays 92,217
Shortstop  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Jeter, D. Yankees 523,187
2. Renteria, E. Tigers 190,244
3. Young, M. Rangers 144,095
4. Lugo, J. Red Sox 130,139
5. Cabrera, O. White Sox 99,580
Catcher  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Varitek, J. Red Sox 288,464
2. Rodriguez, I. Tigers 236,788
3. Mauer, J. Twins 214,396
4. Posada, J. Yankees 201,607
5. Martinez, V. Indians 172,030
Designated hitter  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Ortiz, D. Red Sox 556,567
2. Matsui, H. Yankees 259,234
3. Thome, J. White Sox 163,970
4. Sheffield, G. Tigers 106,705
5. Hafner, T. Indians 76,796
Outfield  
RANK PLAYER NAME AL TEAM TOTAL VOTES
1. Ramirez, M. Red Sox 539,122
2. Suzuki, I. Mariners 284,763
3. Guerrero, V. Angels 274,827
4. Ordonez, M. Tigers 236,890
5. Abreu, B. Yankees 233,147
6. Hamilton, J. Rangers 229,711
7. Cabrera, M. Yankees 200,248
8. Sizemore, G. Indians 193,508
9. Hunter, T. Angels 190,850
10. Damon, J. Yankees 189,844
11. Drew, J.D. Red Sox 185,673
12. Crisp, C. Red Sox 149,801
13. Crawford, C. Rays 149,732
14. Granderson, C. Tigers 145,490
15. Upton, B.J. Rays 102,623
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on May 28, 2008, 12:28:54 am
Thanks Chris. Where do you find the current info on that? Every year I find myself unable to find it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on May 28, 2008, 12:47:00 am
honestly I didn\'t go looking for it.  I just happened to happen while reading news on redsox.com
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on May 31, 2008, 09:26:06 pm
congratulations manny !!!!!  500 and many many more to come
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on May 31, 2008, 09:59:04 pm
mets are fine. willie is fine. lets kick some ass in california
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 04, 2008, 08:03:17 am
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 05, 2008, 12:06:07 pm
Go Padres!

(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6837/beltrancameron275kz9.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 05, 2008, 12:15:06 pm
boozey lets chill and watch some of these games. give me a call at some point.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on June 06, 2008, 11:02:47 am
SER brawl last night after dude almost hit coco in the ribs.  coco charged the mound, dodged the shit out of a punch and then landed a good one to the pitcher\'s (shields) dome.  ended up with youkilis and manny somehow getting in a fight in the dugout afterwards.   sick brawl, but the clubhouse atmosphere doesnt seem too cool right now

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/06/06/no_dirt_on_ramrez_youkilis_dust_up/
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 06, 2008, 11:35:44 am
saw it last night. great job charging, dodging, and counter punching by coco

looked like he got slammed to the ground and pummeled after that though
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on June 06, 2008, 11:32:58 pm
I wouldn\'t worry about the clubhouse atmosphere. These guys spend so much time together that that type of stuff is bound to happen from time to time. Everyone was all amped up and that probably exacerbated the situation.

Pretty glad at this point that we have so many damn outfielders...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on June 07, 2008, 09:43:08 am
I would talk smack about the Yankees, but they\'re so irrelevant that who even cares?

I would talk smack about the Rays, but I don\'t know what to say.  Besides, you gotta give them props for being the Red Sox\' biggest competition with 1/10th the payroll.

Looks like there\'s nothing to do but be the same no-trash-talking, friendly, huggable wolf that I was during last football season.  

Go Red Sox!  Yayyyyyyyyy!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 07, 2008, 11:14:38 am
Quote from: Wolfman;192254
I would talk smack about the Rays, but I don\'t know what to say.  Besides, you gotta give them props for being the Red Sox\' biggest competition with 1/10th the payroll.

I could be dead wrong, but I really don\'t see the Rays being relevant in the AL East race come September. The thing about young pitching and hitting is that, the first time around, nobody has seen it. Kazmir and Garza are good, but I don\'t see a guy like Andy Sonnanstine overpowering teams the second or third time he faces them. The Rays are a good, young team that will be a huge factor in the Wild Card race this season and will be a team to take seriously for years to come.

For the sake of baseball, I hope I\'m wrong. Even as a Red Sox fan, I would take the Wild Card spot if it meant that the Rays would win the AL East. The rivalry will never touch the history of the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry, but it\'s certainly on its way to creating 19 more must see games on the schedule every year.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on June 08, 2008, 01:12:04 am
The Padres set a MLB record with their 4th consecutive win by a score of 2-1.
Without half of their Pitching staff they are slowly climbing out of the cellar.
Finding ways to win builds confidence, this club is really not as bad as it\'s record.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on June 08, 2008, 08:29:32 am
You keep telling yourself that...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 08, 2008, 11:19:22 am
Man petco park is rough!  

DWright RIPPED that ball in game two with the bases loaded. Almost any other park thats a grand slam or a 3 run triple off the wall.  

We really need church and alou back. Kinda worried about churchy right now though. Hope he can make a full recovery.

Also gotta say- even tho he is probably the all time met killer- props to chipper hitting .420 more than a third of the way into the  season at age 30- whatever he is. Guy is just a great hitter.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 08, 2008, 07:55:40 pm
Chumps!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: leith on June 08, 2008, 07:59:04 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;192297
You keep telling yourself that...

A shitty team w/o it\'s best pitchers does not sweep the Mets with Johan Santana and Pedro and a closer like Billy Wagner all in good health. So yeah I will keep telling myself that thanx.

First time since 1980 that the Pads swept a 4 game series at home from the Mets. That\'s 5 wins in a row and moving on up.

Oh and the Angels own the best record in Baseball along with the Cubs. Now that would be awesome to see in October.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on June 09, 2008, 02:45:39 am
i am VERY excited about jd drew\'s production this season; which is exactly what theo expected when signing him.  him and daisuke are having superb seasons thus far.  everyone talked shit last year about the red sox signing these 2 players being a mistake, but it takes players to adjust to new teams and or continents/leagues.  wouldnt be the least bit surprised if daisuke starts the all star game and wins the cy young this year.  drew is starting to produce like the reason he was brought here  for.  theo epstein=genius.  on that note go sox
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on June 09, 2008, 10:04:01 am
JD Drew is making more money this year than any other player on the team except for Manny.  That is a shame.  He is a talented bum.  The cocky ass underachiever.  I say trade him to Japan.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on June 09, 2008, 10:26:49 am
Quote from: peaches626;192396
JD Drew is making more money this year than any other player on the team except for Manny.  That is a shame.  He is a talented bum.  The cocky ass underachiever.  I say trade him to Japan.


My friends and I play a game whenever JD comes up withe runners in scoring position. The name of the game is called "Guess how drew will mess up this time" in which we predict how he will get out, and how many other people he will take out with himself...errr english sucks.

Anyway, I toggle between "ground-ball double play" and "stike out looking"
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on June 09, 2008, 11:39:51 am
Quote from: peaches626;192396
JD Drew is making more money this year than any other player on the team except for Manny.  That is a shame.  He is a talented bum.  The cocky ass underachiever.  I say trade him to Japan.


yeah hitting that crucial grand slam last september against the indians in the alcs to get them to the WS was some ser underachievement.  fuckin bum :sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on June 09, 2008, 11:55:50 am
overpaid, underachieving. I stand by my statement.

This one time, on valentine\'s day, I had crazy porn star sex, don\'t mean I should get paid like i\'m Ron Jeremy or something.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on June 09, 2008, 09:18:11 pm
Quote from: bezerker;192377
wouldnt be the least bit surprised if daisuke ... wins the cy young this year.  


LMFAO
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 13, 2008, 10:23:46 am
Peavy looked impressive yesterday. Winners of 7 of the last 8 going into Interleague play. Catch the tough part of the rotation with Lee and Sabathia this weekend but hopefully their bats will stay hot on this road trip.

We got tickets for Tuesday night and Thursday afternoon at Yankee stadium. Unfortunately, it looks like Maddux will be pitching Sunday and Peavy will be going Wednesday (DOH!). I was really hoping to see Maddux pitch since he is retiring soon but maybe I\'ll make it back down to NYC in August for the Mets series.

Go Padres!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 16, 2008, 01:09:07 pm
Friday, June 27th the Yankees and Mets play a double header. The first game is a makeup game at Yankee stadium. The second game is at Shea to open the weekend series. Is this the first time two teams have played a double header with one game in each team\'s stadium?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 16, 2008, 01:26:19 pm
no its been done before.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on June 16, 2008, 01:32:48 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;193173
Friday, June 27th the Yankees and Mets play a double header. The first game is a makeup game at Yankee stadium. The second game is at Shea to open the weekend series. Is this the first time two teams have played a double header with one game in each team\'s stadium?


Is that even technichally a double header?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on June 16, 2008, 04:45:35 pm
Quote from: tyzack;193181
Quote from: booztravlr;193173
Friday, June 27th the Yankees and Mets play a double header. The first game is a makeup game at Yankee stadium. The second game is at Shea to open the weekend series. Is this the first time two teams have played a double header with one game in each team\'s stadium?


Is that even technichally a double header?


web definitions for doubleheader: 2 teams/ 2 games/ 1 day
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on June 17, 2008, 08:22:00 am
ANAHEIM -- The New York Mets today named Jerry Manuel interim manager, replacing Willie Randolph. Manuel, in his fourth season with the Mets, had been bench coach since 2006. The Mets also named Ken Oberkfell, Luis Aguayo and Dan Warthen to the coaching staff. Rick Peterson and Tom Nieto have been relieved of their coaching duties.


knew that it was being talked about more and more, but thought theyd wait til after these games against the Angels, not after a much needed win last night. I dont think theyre going to play any better or worse under a new manager, so i hope this doesnt backfire. Hope Manuel can get them on the right path here.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on June 17, 2008, 09:01:27 am
The Mets organization really showed poor class in how they let Willie go.  They pretty much waited until it was too late for the NY papers to include the story in their early editions of today\'s paper.  I disagree with the firing; let\'s hold the players accountable for their poor performance this year.  As I\'ve said before, there\'s only so much a manager can do to motivate their players; it\'s up to the player to perform to their ability.  When was the last time we saw management fire a player for lack of performance.  If it can be done to a manager, it should be able to be done to a player (screw these iron-clad contracts).  

That being said, I could give two shits about the Mets, I\'m a Yankee fan and we have our own issues to deal with.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on June 17, 2008, 09:20:39 am
...like that moron Hank Steinbrenner sayin shit about the National league because hes frustrated and realizes he\'ll be losing and wont beat Boston, LA or Tampa Bay
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on June 17, 2008, 09:41:00 am
I disagree with Steinbrenner, but can understand his frustration; we lost 3 of our starting pitchers to injury, not to mention all of the other injuries over the first half of the season.  But to say that the Yanks won\'t beat Boston, LA or Tampa Bay is a little quick to jump the gun.  

Boston - 5.5 games behind for 1st in the division
LA - 4.5 games behind; not in our division and not currently fighting for the Wild Card, so let\'s get rid of that one comparison.
Tampa Bay - 3.5 games behind for the Wild Card spot.

The Yanks have played 70 games this season, that leaves over 90 games (13 against Boston / 10 against LA / 8 against Tampa Bay) to make up a maximum of 5.5 games.  Will they win all of those games, no.  But to forecast that they won\'t beat those teams at this point in the season is just plain stupid.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 17, 2008, 01:24:34 pm
adios willie.

long overdue.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 18, 2008, 09:27:24 am
Never send a Yankee to do the job of a Met.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 18, 2008, 01:37:26 pm
not a great start for jerry. reyes needs to grow up. cant believe he was trying to show him up on hist first day then throws his helmet like a little brat.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on June 18, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;193411
Never send someone used to winning to a team that\'s destined to lose.


Fixed
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 18, 2008, 01:56:04 pm
Quote from: Yoda;193477
Quote from: ChrisPitch;193411
Never send someone used to winning to a team that\'s destined to lose.

Fixed

thats exactly his problem. he is too used to winning. It\'s easy to look like a great manager when your team is clicking on all cylinders and owning the entire league. Once that stopped willie was a total fish out of water. He was in total denial had absolutely no clue how to right the ship when it was going down in epic fashion last September so he just kept assuming the team would bounce back despite his robotic unemotional demeanor and the fact that he was totally out of touch with his team and had no clue how to properly handle the situation or reconnect and motivate his players.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on June 18, 2008, 02:57:17 pm
Quote from: Yoda;193477
Quote from: ChrisPitch;193411
Never send someone used to winning to a team that\'s destined to lose.


Fixed

Wait, are we talking about Willie Randolph or Joe Torre? I think all of those years in the Bronx made Joe forget that he\'s a pretty mediocre game-day manager.

See also: Phil Jackson; Pat Riley
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on June 18, 2008, 03:11:16 pm
I actually think that Willie is a pretty good manager; he definitely blew some decisions towards the end of last season.  But he has no control over the majority of the make up of his team, that should be on Omar\'s shoulders.  Willie didn\'t decide to sign older players that are toward the end of their prime or past it.  I don\'t know much about their farm system, but it didn\'t look like he much to work with there.  If the Mets don\'t come out of this season after cutting Willie loose, then Omar needs to be fired.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 19, 2008, 12:03:54 am
Gary: "What the heck was that?!"
"Oh, this is when Perez just starts making stuff up" :lol:

(after perez just freezes in the middle of delivery like dan harren)

I like the new feel of this team already though.

They seem a lot looser and reyes is fired up.

Jerry is the man.....at least for now.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 24, 2008, 10:53:03 am
It\'s almost the halfway point of the season, so may as well rip apart some predictions.

Quote from: Klout;178578
Johan Santana (7-6)
Pedro Martinez (2-1)
John Maine (7-5)
Oliver Perez (5-4)
Mike Pelfrey (4-6)

show me a better 1-5 in MLB. (Overall 25-22)

So basically we\'re fuckin stacked and we\'re gonna win a 100 games and the world series :D

They\'re currently 37-38. Sorry Chip.

Quote from: booztravlr;184293
AL East - Red Sox, Yankees, Blue Jays, Devil Rays, Orioles
AL Central - Tigers, Indians, Twins, Royals, White Sox
AL West - Angels, Mariners, Athletics, Rangers
AL Wild Card - Mariners (Rays)

NL East - Phillies, Braves, Mets, Marlins, Nationals
NL Central - Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Astros, Cardinals, Pirates
NL West - Diamondbacks, Padres, Rockies, Dodgers, Giants
NL Wild Card - Braves (Cardinals)

World Series - Tigers over Phillies


4 out of 6 Division Leaders are correct at this point. I was off by one with the Cubs and WAY OFF with the White Sox. The Wild Card teams don\'t look like they\'ll be right either but the Braves have a decent chance at making it, unlike the disappointing Mariners. World Series matchup is definitely a long shot.

Quote from: Klout;184434
Quote from: booztravlr;184293

NL East - Phillies, Braves, Mets, Marlins, Nationals

care to place a wager on that statment?

It\'s currently Phillies, Marlins, Mets, Braves, Nationals. Good thing we didn\'t bet :biggrin:


Quote from: leith;179982
Angels will win the W.S.

Looks like a good possibility.

Quote from: ChrisPitch;185347
Translation: Delgado is primed for a big year, as are the Mets, regardless of the outcome of Pedro\'s MRI.

Another Sorry Chip

.234 AVG (64/274), 11HR, 35RBI, 35R
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 24, 2008, 12:54:38 pm
Its a new era my friend.

NL East is still wiiiiide open

Sorry Chipper Jones
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on June 24, 2008, 12:55:56 pm
The NL east is wide open because it only has two teams over .500.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 24, 2008, 01:49:21 pm
Considering all the problems that the Mets have had, to be only three games out in the loss column at this point is really not that bad.

I maintain my stance that they will win the National League East.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 24, 2008, 02:05:44 pm
<- still would like to see the cubbies win the ne and go to the world series.

man, poor hernandez from the mariners, looked pretty damn painful!


Also, it\'s minor league but still!!!:

Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on June 24, 2008, 02:20:36 pm
nice heads up, hard nose play by tron
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 27, 2008, 10:26:25 am
ok sox yankees die-hards, I need your help. We need to know  when the game was (year at least but actual game would be better) that this classic photo was taken at:

(http://sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/2/2d/Varitek-Arod.jpg)

guessing 03/04

also, we\'re doing a montage of photos for great moments from sox/yankees games throughout the years. Anyone have any please let me know.
Thanks!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 27, 2008, 10:30:07 am
It was towards the end of July, 2004. Most likely the 24th.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 27, 2008, 10:32:00 am
:thumbsup:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 27, 2008, 10:39:26 am
yep. July 24, 2004.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE1D7113DF933A05754C0A9629C8B63
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 27, 2008, 10:54:28 am
it\'s like I have my own research department. :biggrin:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on July 02, 2008, 10:29:46 pm
God, just when I thought this Red Sox Rays series couldn\'t get any worse. :rolleyes:

you really gotta be kidding me, time for a new bullpen, Okie actually pitched well too.


oh and that you tube clip is staged.  I heard the promotions director for that park on NPR this weekend talking about it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on July 06, 2008, 10:07:25 pm
Sabathia going to the Brewers
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 06, 2008, 10:40:56 pm
insane mets game today
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on July 06, 2008, 11:50:26 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;195189
Sabathia going to the Brewers


no fucking way..... (quickly relocating to espn.go.com)

Fuck!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on July 07, 2008, 02:30:21 am
Quote from: Klout;195194
insane mets game today


how did Wagner make the all star team??
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 07, 2008, 09:31:19 am
Every team gets one spot on the roster.  Maybe he\'s the best of the worst.  Are there any other stand-outs that should have made the cut?  Seriously, I don\'t follow the Mets, so I\'m clueless.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 07, 2008, 09:55:10 am
Quote from: Yoda;195209
Every team gets one spot on the roster.  Maybe he\'s the best of the worst.  Are there any other stand-outs that should have made the cut?  Seriously, I don\'t follow the Mets, so I\'m clueless.

David Wright is on the fan ballot for "last player in". Chipper Jones was the obvious starter at third base (hitting fucking .388 in July), but there\'s no reason for Aramis Ramirez to be in over Wright.

Wright: .286, 16 HR, 66 RBI, 9 SB, 55 runs scored
Ramirez: .283, 15 HR, 60 RBI, 1 SB, 56 runs scored

Can we mention how ridiculous fan voting has gotten? Pedroia over Kinsler and Jeter over Young are fucking laughable. If fan voting is going to continue, the game should go back to being meaningless, instead of determining home field advantage for the World Series. It\'s also absurd than, when players retire, we look at All-Star appearances when considering them for the Hall of Fame. All-Star appearances means very little when injured players like David Ortiz and undeserving players like Jason Varitek and Derek Jeter are taking spots from guys like Evan Longoria (who could be a borderline Hall of Famer when his career is done).
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on July 07, 2008, 10:14:37 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;195213
Quote from: Yoda;195209
Every team gets one spot on the roster.  Maybe he\'s the best of the worst.  Are there any other stand-outs that should have made the cut?  Seriously, I don\'t follow the Mets, so I\'m clueless.
David Wright is on the fan ballot for "last player in". Chipper Jones was the obvious starter at third base (hitting fucking .388 in July), but there\'s no reason for Aramis Ramirez to be in over Wright.

Wright: .286, 16 HR, 66 RBI, 9 SB, 55 runs scored
Ramirez: .283, 15 HR, 60 RBI, 1 SB, 56 runs scored

Can we mention how ridiculous fan voting has gotten? Pedroia over Kinsler and Jeter over Young are fucking laughable. If fan voting is going to continue, the game should go back to being meaningless, instead of determining home field advantage for the World Series. It\'s also absurd than, when players retire, we look at All-Star appearances when considering them for the Hall of Fame. All-Star appearances means very little when injured players like David Ortiz and undeserving players like Jason Varitek and Derek Jeter are taking spots from guys like Evan Longoria (who could be a borderline Hall of Famer when his career is done).

THIS!

Fan voting is the biggest crock of shit in sports.

Big cities and popular teams dominate the voting, which is fine, but don\'t make the game worth home field advantage in the World Series. That fat bastard Ortiz shouldn\'t even be considered in voting. He\'s hitting .252, with 15HR, 43RBI, and 36R. That\'s chump change in my book. Adrian Gonzalez is tied for 4th in the NL in HR and 2nd in RBI but only got in because each team has to send at least one player.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 07, 2008, 10:28:11 am
to me the real bullshit is the fact that it determines home field advantage.

The all star game is gimicky and for the fans and whatever so fan voting, even tho it makes it nothing more than a popularity contest, makes sense (sort of).

But to have it determine the home field advantage in the WS is totally insane.

I just see no logic in what so ever.

I know they say its is to add importance to it.

But in my mind its not supposed to be important.

Its a mid-season break and chance to relax, have some fun and showcase some great players, it should be left at that.

bottom line is baseball is kinda fucked up these days between this, the steroid era, the DH, the pampering of pitchers, salaries, etc.

but its still an escape from reality for three hours, 6 days a week, for half the year
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on July 07, 2008, 10:58:26 am
Quote from: Yoda;195209
Every team gets one spot on the roster.  Maybe he\'s the best of the worst.  Are there any other stand-outs that should have made the cut?  Seriously, I don\'t follow the Mets, so I\'m clueless.


hes had 25 save chances and blown 6 before the All Star break, and most of the blown saves are with the Mets up by at least 2 runs in the 9th. All Stars perform when the pressure is on and this year looks like Wagner is not as reliable in that spot and shouldnt have a spot on the team. I dont think any of their bull pen is good enough. Id say Reyes who hasnt reached his potential, but has good numbers ( i think better than Wright) though has made a few costly errors in the field should have gotten the spot
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 07, 2008, 11:31:59 am
I don\'t necessarilly disagree with you, but you also have to factor in the fan vote, which is total bull because you\'re going to get the same team pretty much every year.  I\'ll be honest, the only all-star game I\'ve ever watched is NHL.  I think it\'s ridiculous that this game decides home field advantage for the WS.  I say that we go back to two divisions in each league and the top team in each division plays for a spot in the series; I\'m sick of over a month of playoffs before the WS.  Sorry for the rant.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Vassillios on July 07, 2008, 11:36:15 am
congrats A-rod, for tying Mickey Mantle in HRs
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 07, 2008, 11:45:51 am
Quote from: Yoda;195233
I say that we go back to two divisions in each league and the top team in each division plays for a spot in the series; I\'m sick of over a month of playoffs before the WS.

I know you\'ve stated that you\'re not the biggest baseball fan in the world, so I\'ll go easy on ya. :drew:

Four reasons why this is a bad idea:
1997 Florida Marlins
2002 Anaheim Angels
2003 Florida Marlins
2004 Boston Red Sox

All four team won the World Series out of the Wild Card spot. The Wild Card also gave us epic series like the 2003 and 2004 ALCS. Also, I\'m all for anything that adds relevance to at least half of the games being played on any given day well into September.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on July 07, 2008, 12:00:34 pm
Quote from: Yoda;195233
I say that we go back to two divisions in each league and the top team in each division plays for a spot in the series; I\'m sick of over a month of playoffs before the WS.  Sorry for the rant.


Do you realize the Wild Card round is only a best of five series? After a ~26 week regular season, adding one more week to double the amount of teams in the post-season just makes sense and creates excitement for all those involved.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 07, 2008, 12:06:28 pm
I never said that I\'m not the biggest baseball fan in the world.  I\'m a huge Yankee fan that doesn\'t care to follow other teams.  

I undestand how it\'s a positive thing for cusp teams, but I\'m sick of all the extra weeks of playoffs.  I\'d prefer a simpler system.  I also long for the days where (and I don\'t know if it\'s at all stadiums) we could see the following:

- No intro song for every player
- No "F"ing YMCA crap at the begining of the 7th inning
- God Bless America / Take Me Out To The Ball Game (For the love of God, pick one and be done with it)
- Get rid of the dancing and kissing cams

We\'re there to see a baseball game, that\'s the entertainment.  If you need added entertainment for the little ones, go to a minor league game.  We pay way too much per ticket to have to put up with all that added crap.

And on a side note, I give two craps about the 03 Marlins and the 04 Red Sox.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on July 07, 2008, 09:47:46 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;195213
but there\'s no reason for Aramis Ramirez to be in over Wright.

Wright: .286, 16 HR, 66 RBI, 9 SB, 55 runs scored
Ramirez: .283, 15 HR, 60 RBI, 1 SB, 56 runs scored


I agree that fan voting has become absolutely ridiculous. However this comparison of Wright vs. Ramirez is not substantial evidence of the problem, imo. Their numbers are very similar, Wright with a slight edge, but Ramirez takes the cake as far as clutch hits & HR\'s/being a leader on the best National League team to date. That being said I\'m absolutely a biased Cub fan and I\'d trade Ramirez for Wright straight up any day.

Varitek is the most pitiful all-star pick in a long time: .215 BA, 7 HR, 27 RBI, .297 OBP....?!?!?!?!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 07, 2008, 10:53:12 pm
Funny how we had a week of crickets in here and then the thread got bumped right after a 4-game Sox/Yankees series...and nobody is even talking abou that.  Prob because A. the series was a split so nobody gained an edge and B. the Rays pwn both teams so it\'s kind of embarassing to talk #$%^ right now.  Anywho just got home from taking in a 1-0 Sox victory, good times!  Manny actually swung the bat and delivered the game\'s only RBI in the eigth, how about that!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on July 07, 2008, 11:24:57 pm
Quote from: Yoda;195240
I also long for the days where (and I don\'t know if it\'s at all stadiums) we could see the following:

- No intro song for every player
- No "F"ing YMCA crap at the begining of the 7th inning
- God Bless America / Take Me Out To The Ball Game (For the love of God, pick one and be done with it)
- Get rid of the dancing and kissing cams

We\'re there to see a baseball game, that\'s the entertainment.  If you need added entertainment for the little ones, go to a minor league game.  We pay way too much per ticket to have to put up with all that added crap.


A time travel wish of mine is to go back to Wrigley when men wore suits and top hats and waved their newspapers in celebration or disgust. Back when Cracker Jacks mattered.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on July 08, 2008, 07:05:04 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;195317
Funny how we had a week of crickets in here and then the thread got bumped right after a 4-game Sox/Yankees series...and nobody is even talking about that.

 cause it\'s irrelevant TB is gonna win it all this year.  They are a fuckin MONSTER lately.  Don\'t get me wrong I watch every Red sox game (that I can at least) and I still do have faith, the season is only half over, but TB just seems to have this energy and forward momentum that just seems unstoppable.  Not to mention their absolutely incredible pitching staff, and quick footed fielders.  It\'s just funny to me that they\'re the team to beat right now.

Quote from: Gordo;195308

Varitek is the most pitiful all-star pick in a long time: .215 BA, 7 HR, 27 RBI, .297 OBP....?!?!?!?!

even as a Red Sox fan I can agree with this.  He\'s had an awful year.  Something around 5 for his last 50 or so.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on July 13, 2008, 03:07:50 am
Mets are tearing shit up with contributions coming from all around. Even Wagner and bull pen, coming in and not blowing it. glad to see Wright on the All Star team due to Sorianos injury and look forward to beating some tougher teams and handin it to Philly and Florida the end of this month.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 13, 2008, 10:08:33 am
hellz yah. high fives to aruny and pitchie!

I\'ll wait till we are actually in first (half game out right now) to re-quote boozey\'s predictions hehe.

I think we need to go after a good corner outfielder before the deadline tho with alou gone for the year and church questionable with all his concussion and migraine complications.

Endy/Tatis/Nixon/ etc are working great right now but I think they are going to come back down to earth eventually.

I have a feeling omar is making moves though.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 13, 2008, 10:12:39 am
Don\'t look now, but the Rays are on a six-game skid, giving the Red Sox a chance to claim first place at the All-Star Break.

I\'m still rooting for the Rays to take the Wild Card, but it\'s definitely a relief that they\'re no longer running away with the division.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on July 13, 2008, 05:15:45 pm
Back in 1st where we belong :)
Go Sox!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 13, 2008, 09:33:07 pm
Revamped, All-Star Break Predictions:

American League Champion: Boston Red Sox
AL East: Boston Red Sox
AL Central: Chicago White Sox
AL West: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Wild Card: Minnesota Twins
MVP: Justin Morneau
Cy Young: Roy Halladay
Manager of the Year: Joe Maddon
Rookie of the Year: Evan Longoria

Cy Young could very well go to Mariano Rivera, as a sort of "Lifetime Achievement" deal, but I don\'t believe a closer on a non-playoff team (which the Yanks are in my scenario) deserves the award.

National League Champion: Arizona Diamondbacks
NL East: New York Mets
NL Central: Chicago Cubs
NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks
Wild Card: Philadelphia Phillies
MVP: Chase Utley
Cy Young: Tim Lincecum
Manager of the Year: Jerry Manuel
Rookie of the Year: Kosuke Fukudome

World Series: Boston Red Sox over Arizona Diamondbacks

The D-Backs pitching is ridiculous, but the Red Sox pitching of recent years always steps up in big games. Also, I don\'t want the karma of picking against the Sox hanging over my head.

So no particularly bold predictions in the end (except maybe NL Cy Young and RoY), but it will  interesting to see how they look in October.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 13, 2008, 10:26:22 pm
kinda sucks that it;s the all star break now because we have won 9 in a row and don\'t really  wanna mess with the momentum. but what can ya do.

Big Pelf is becoming the Ace we was projected to be. Really love watching him pitch these days. The way he attacks the hitters and pounds the bottom of the strike zone batter after batter with all the movement on his pitches is just really fun to watch. Especially tonight with the home crowd really getting behind him. good good stuff.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 13, 2008, 10:31:04 pm
Quote from: Klout;195965
kinda sucks that it;s the all star break now because we have won 9 in a row and don\'t really  wanna mess with the momentum. but what can ya do.

Big Pelf is becoming the Ace we was projected to be. Really love watching him pitch these days. The way he attacks the hitters and pounds the bottom of the strike zone batter after batter with all the movement on his pitches is just really fun to watch. Especially tonight with the home crowd really getting behind him. good good stuff.

Speaking of tonight\'s game, Jon Miller (ESPN) should never be allowed to pronounce Hispanic last names. I suppose he is just trying to be accurate and culturally diverse or whatever, but he is often wrong when he does so, and it makes him sound even more like an old, white dude than usual.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 13, 2008, 10:37:00 pm
Ugg don\'t get me started man...the fox morons yesterday and these goons today. Maybe I have high standards because Gary Keith and Ron are great but the the amount of actual analytical breakdown of the game these  network guys put forth is absolutely pathetic.  Keith Gary and Ron put forth more actual analytical commentary of whats happening in one half inning than these morons do in an entire game! Literally! And GKR\'s color commentary is 100000x better and funnier and more interesting also. yea these guys are just totally bleh. better off just listening to tunes because they really don\'t say anything worth hearing for the entire 3.5 hours.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on July 14, 2008, 12:10:49 am
nice work justin, i can only pray the sox rage the division this next half.  rays are scaring the shit out of me
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on July 14, 2008, 09:55:49 pm
Josh Hamilton putting on a show in the HR derby.  Some BOMBS in there.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on July 15, 2008, 01:20:12 am
Quote from: Me!;196037
Josh Hamilton putting on a show in the HR derby.  Some BOMBS in there.


Unreal. He put on an absolute clinic.

Morneau should\'ve just handed over the trophy. You could tell he was reluctant when accepting.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on July 15, 2008, 09:52:59 am
anyone hear chase utley say"fuck you" to the ny fans that were booing him last night
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 15, 2008, 10:07:24 am
Pappelbon has a lot of balls thinking that he should be the closer tonight.  That being said, I won\'t know whether he did or didn\'t until I watch SC tomorrow.  Screw the 8:00 start; who will actually stay up past minute to watch an all star game.  Move it back to a saturday afternoon, the way it should be.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on July 15, 2008, 10:21:47 am
just talked to a friend from work, his brother won the raffle for a sox world series ring.......lucky bastard
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on July 15, 2008, 02:45:02 pm
Quote from: Me!;196037
Josh Hamilton putting on a show in the HR derby.  Some BOMBS in there.


That was so fun to watch, especially with his adorable pitcher who was 70-something years old. Hamilton\'s story is a pretty inspirational one.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on July 15, 2008, 03:45:11 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;196106
Hamilton\'s story is a pretty inspirational one.


He is an athlete who almost pissed away a promising career in professional sports for drugs. How is that inspirational? I\'d call it fortunate. Try not blowing all your money on hard drugs in the first place while wasting away years of your life. If he was just an average person and wasn\'t involved with professional sports he would have become just another statistic. I\'ll tip my hat to him for coming back to the MLB after being in such a hole for so long but the only way that is going to \'inspire\' me is to stay the fuck away from stuff like that.

/leith\'s understudy
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on July 15, 2008, 08:34:03 pm
Come on now.

What\'s inspirational is the fact that he is busting his ass now to try and prevent others from doing the same thing he did. He does an incredible amount of charity work, and he does a lot to raise awareness and help others in bad situations.

When someone fucks up, and then turns their life around and tries to help other people, I think that is something inspirational. We have all made mistakes, and to recover from one and then try to help other people is something worthy of respect.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on July 15, 2008, 08:39:39 pm
You know what\'s inspirational to me? The resurgent, and suddenly within a whisker of first place, New York Metropolitans. The decision to fire Willie was obviously the right one, Reyes and the bullpen are on absolute fire, and even Carlos "Garbage" Delgado is doing alright for himself.

Let\'s go Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on July 15, 2008, 08:43:04 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;196170
You know what\'s inspirational to me? The resurgent, and suddenly within a whisker of first place, New York Metropolitans. The decision to fire Willie was obviously the right one, Reyes and the bullpen are on absolute fire, and even Carlos "Garbage" Delgado is doing alright for himself.

Let\'s go Mets!


:thumbsup:

Happy to see your guys looking so energized. Shame the break had to come now.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 15, 2008, 09:28:47 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;196170
You know what\'s inspirational to me? The resurgent, and suddenly within a whisker of first place, New York Metropolitans. The decision to fire Willie was obviously the right one, Reyes and the bullpen are on absolute fire, and even Carlos "Garbage" Delgado is doing alright for himself.

Let\'s go Mets!


I, too, am inspired by the youthful exuberance and steadfast grit of the 2008 New York Amazing Metropolitans.

Agree that Josh Hamilton\'s story is inspiring.... inspiring to do hard drugs!  "Hey kids, if you do lots of crack and heroin and live to tell about it, you can end up like me!"

BTW Yogi Berra is in the booth right now at the All-Star game and NOT coherent.  He couldn\'t even remember Mariano Rivera\'s name, but rather described him as "the kid with the muscles".  ???  Tough to watch.  Looks like the Aflac commercial in the barber shop was his last great moment.  Shame on Fox for embarassing him like this.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on July 15, 2008, 10:14:19 pm
It\'s inspirational for the white bread society. Seriously. He\'d be locked up otherwise, either in jail or shackled on the streets.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 15, 2008, 11:20:15 pm
go NL! I hope we can hang on to this lead (but i have a feeling th e al will hit hr before the night is over)...

I think the tide is finally turning now that the roid era is winding down and all the juice heads are becoming washed up has beens and the new generation is taking over. good to see.

yup there it is

well thats the reason wagner didnt even deserve to be an allstar in the first Place right there. sheesh
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on July 16, 2008, 01:10:16 am
..exactly. Tell me you werent thinking the same thing as I when Wagner came in with a 2 run lead needing one out... aye yae yae
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 22, 2008, 06:03:06 pm
tied for first headin into this three game series with the phags ...I mean phils.

we have beat on them all year so hopefully we can continue that trend over the next three days.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on July 22, 2008, 06:16:35 pm
Let\'s hope Wagner\'s arm doesn\'t snap off at the shoulder. Let\'s hope Johan makes it through the fifth.
Let\'s Go Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 24, 2008, 04:08:53 pm
Pissed that the AL blew it and won the All-Star game.  Now when the Red Sox sweep the World Series they\'ll clinch on the road AGAIN.  Was pulling for the NL so the Sox could finally clinch at home.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 24, 2008, 04:22:09 pm
first places bitches. haters eat a d!

we need a legit corner outfielder though. i.e. nady or holliday. trade fmart, neise, and a few mid level pitching prospects should get it done.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 26, 2008, 12:45:36 pm
So what\'s the verdict, did Joba throw at Youkilis intentionally?

On one hand, Joba had great control all night (so good that the inside corner actually expanded all the way to Mike Lowell\'s belt buckle in the ninth inning), and he has thrown at Youkilis twice before.

On the other hand, it was a 1-0 game, and Youkilis was the leadoff man in the seventh inning with All-Star caliber player Mike Lowell (Joe Crede, my ass) and All-Star MVP J.D. Drew batting behind him. Thus, putting him on base intentionally would be pretty stupid.

But, on yet another hand, the count was 2-0, and Joba could have figured that he was better off walking him then giving him a pitch to hit (of course, the Yanks lucked out big when the ball over Youk\'s head happened to hit the bat for strike one).

And of course, maybe the pitch just slipped and this is a huge coincidence. You never know.

Or.... maybe Joba\'s just smarter than the rest of us, and he realizes that the Sox/Yanks feud needs a jumpstart. Sadly, it\'s the American League, and Joba can\'t just catch a fastball between the numbers in his next at-bat against Boston to settle the score.

Either way, looking forward to two more tight games this weekend, with the Sox hopefully picking up a couple wins to keep ahead of the Yanks and in step with the Rays (who are at Kansas City and likely taking at three out of four).
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on July 26, 2008, 02:53:21 pm
Quote from: Klout;197016
first places bitches. haters eat a d!

we need a legit corner outfielder though. i.e. nady or holliday. trade fmart, neise, and a few mid level pitching prospects should get it done.





(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/A_day_late_and_a_dollar_short.jpg/200px-A_day_late_and_a_dollar_short.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 26, 2008, 04:29:02 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;197134
So what\'s the verdict, did Joba throw at Youkilis intentionally?


My answer is who gives a shit.  In the past four years RS pitchers have hit Jeter and A-Rod 24 times.  In that same time period, Manny was hit 5 times and Ortiz was hit 0 times.  The Torre days of no retaliation are in the past.  Maybe Girardi is trying to send the message that we\'re not going to put up with that shit from them anymore.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on July 26, 2008, 05:20:37 pm
Apparently, Yoda gives a shit.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 26, 2008, 05:50:37 pm
I only give a shit about Sox fans that are bitching about something that they\'ve been doing to us for years.  Let it go, it\'s part of the game.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on July 26, 2008, 05:55:52 pm
Yoda, do you think drew kingsley was bitching? I did not...

Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;197134
So what\'s the verdict, did Joba throw at Youkilis intentionally?

On one hand, Joba had great control all night (so good that the inside corner actually expanded all the way to Mike Lowell\'s belt buckle in the ninth inning), and he has thrown at Youkilis twice before.

On the other hand, it was a 1-0 game, and Youkilis was the leadoff man in the seventh inning with All-Star caliber player Mike Lowell (Joe Crede, my ass) and All-Star MVP J.D. Drew batting behind him. Thus, putting him on base intentionally would be pretty stupid.

But, on yet another hand, the count was 2-0, and Joba could have figured that he was better off walking him then giving him a pitch to hit (of course, the Yanks lucked out big when the ball over Youk\'s head happened to hit the bat for strike one).

And of course, maybe the pitch just slipped and this is a huge coincidence. You never know.

Or.... maybe Joba\'s just smarter than the rest of us, and he realizes that the Sox/Yanks feud needs a jumpstart. Sadly, it\'s the American League, and Joba can\'t just catch a fastball between the numbers in his next at-bat against Boston to settle the score.

Either way, looking forward to two more tight games this weekend, with the Sox hopefully picking up a couple wins to keep ahead of the Yanks and in step with the Rays (who are at Kansas City and likely taking at three out of four).




In my interpretation, Drew was merely questioning whether it was intentional or not.  Not a bitch or moan anywhere in his post as far as i can tell.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 26, 2008, 07:52:14 pm
Quote from: peaches626;197163
In my interpretation, Drew was merely questioning whether it was intentional or not.  Not a bitch or moan anywhere in his post as far as i can tell.

Thanks for saving me the effort.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 26, 2008, 09:42:34 pm
Sorry - I\'m just sick of hearing about it, it wasn\'t that big of a deal.  Besides the last line of the comment had Sox overtones to it, so I couldn\'t help but think that there was an alteriative motive for bringing up the topic.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 27, 2008, 01:50:54 pm
Yoda, if you ever come to a Breakfast show, I\'m throwing at you.  Intentionally.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on July 27, 2008, 03:42:45 pm
You lose in 14 innings and tax your bullpen. You play the next day and your starting pitcher allows just six hits and one walk to go the distance as you win the rubber game against a solid team.

That\'s what an ace does.

Go Johan!

Let\'s Go Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 27, 2008, 05:29:25 pm
I\'d hate to be the bearer of bad news to all of the Red Sox fans on dotinfo but, assuming there is substance to the Jarrod Washburn rumor, the Yankees are going to win the AL East. The Yanks fulfilled two needs with Nady and Marte, and are going to fill another with Washburn. Making moves revitalizes a team. Sitting around letting a malcontent run the show ruins a team. Unless the Sox are able to deal Manny for some decent, immediate help (bullpen help and a right-handed bat to soften the effect of losing Manny), I get the feeling I\'ll be able to concentrate on the NFL much sooner than usual this fall.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 27, 2008, 08:41:34 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;197200
Yoda, if you ever come to a Breakfast show, I\'m throwing at you.  Intentionally.


been to two this year.  make your pitch at the next donnegals show
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on July 30, 2008, 11:55:45 pm
Manny to Marlins: please God no.  i wish he and the sox would come to terms somehow because it is looking UGLY.  i got a ser man crush on manny so this has potential to be depressing

pudge to yankees !! ??   :no:   :pout:   :sigh:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on July 31, 2008, 07:36:39 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Did-Manny-just-cash-his-ticket-to-Miami-with-thi?urn=mlb,97458

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/07/ipt/1217477867.jpg)

...hmm, I think that the packers would be the better deal (though what would they do with one of the most consistently producing hitters of a generation)?

I have no idea what the red sox, or any team, would want with a washed-up ego-maniniac
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 31, 2008, 08:53:51 am
Trading Manny to the Marlins is accepting reality. To me, it is waving the white flag on the 2008 season. Because, yes, the Red Sox MIGHT still do well without Manny, but it\'s not the projected outcome. However, I can definitely understanding not wanting to let him go for nothing after the season. The Sox were on fire without Ortiz earlier in the season, so maybe the Sox sans Manny can turn it on, turn it on, turn it on, turn it on again.

EDIT: Just read that the Red Sox could end up with Jason Bay in the deal. If that happens, ignore the above post.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on July 31, 2008, 09:24:34 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;197674
Trading Manny to the Marlins is accepting reality. To me, it is waving the white flag on the 2008 season. Because, yes, the Red Sox MIGHT still do well without Manny, but it\'s not the projected outcome. However, I can definitely understanding not wanting to let him go for nothing after the season. The Sox were on fire without Ortiz earlier in the season, so maybe the Sox sans Manny can turn it on, turn it on, turn it on, turn it on again.

EDIT: Just read that the Red Sox could end up with Jason Bay in the deal. If that happens, ignore the above post.


Red Sox sans Normar won the world series
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on July 31, 2008, 09:42:40 am
(http://imgsrv.weei.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200807/2885392.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on July 31, 2008, 09:57:10 am
you know I have very mixed feelings about this whole Manny thing.  ONe half of me doesn\'t want to see one of the greatest 3, 4 combos in baseball split up, and Manny in and of himself fundamentaly is just such and amazing hitter.  



BUT.................  even as a Red Sox fan it\'s all just getting to be too much.  TO me I think about all those guys in the clubhouse that are good attitude team players (Youk, Pedroia, Ortiz, Lowell) and how all this unnecessary drama effects the clubhouse as a whole.  


I hate to say but I\'m getting to the point of saying let him go.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 31, 2008, 09:59:39 am
Omar is fuckin slackin. All these big deals goin down he his just sittin on his hands!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on July 31, 2008, 03:18:04 pm
manny\'s safe in boston at least for the time being.  pheeeeew
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: SlimPickens on July 31, 2008, 03:31:45 pm
Quote from: bezerker;197770
manny\'s safe in boston at least for the time being.  pheeeeew


The rumor that this rumored trade is falling apart may just be a play.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 31, 2008, 03:35:03 pm
Griffey Jr. went to the White Sox.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on July 31, 2008, 04:28:53 pm
Looks like I was a little off...

Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers, Jason Bay to the Red Sox, 4 minor leaguers to the Pirates.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 31, 2008, 04:44:24 pm
i wish the mets got manny. I woulda traded our over rated prospects for him in a heart beat.

at least he didnt go to florida though. mets have no games left with the dogers and the phils have 8 so thats good. maybe we can sign him nect year when he is a fa
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on July 31, 2008, 04:52:33 pm
manny come back!!! :sadban:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 31, 2008, 04:54:11 pm
Manny Ramirez for Jason Bay straight up would be a bit of a dropoff for the Sox but understandable given the circumstances.  Manny + two prospects for Jason Bay just seems like the Sox got taken a bit.  I love Manny and I hate to see him go but I will enjoy posting a Youtube video of me burning my Manny shirt.

We are begging to get re-cursed.  Next Sox championship: 2094?  Hehe just kidding.  As long as baseball has no salary cap then only 8-10 teams have a legit shot each year and the Red Sox will always be one of them so even though things will ebb and flow for a few years you can pretty much count on the Sox (and Yankees) averaging 1-2 championships every 8 years from here to eternity.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 31, 2008, 04:57:11 pm
i like how many looks like a tool now for saying they would never trade him and making all those stupid jokes about it. i think that motivated them even more to pull the trigger.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Nermel9 on July 31, 2008, 05:13:01 pm
I can\'t believe Manny actually got traded, I never thought they would do it.  I love Manny and am really sad to see him go. :(
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 31, 2008, 05:13:06 pm
Manny\'s a "f"ing baby.  If you unhappy with your situation, take it up with your agent and the sox brass, don\'t go to the media and or hold up stupid signs on tv.  No doubt, he\'s a great player, but this "Manny being Manny" shit is why Boston wanted to get rid of him and why I would never have him on the Yanks.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on July 31, 2008, 05:30:25 pm
yoda were u glad the G-Men dumped shockey?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on July 31, 2008, 05:31:41 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;197773
Looks like I was a little off...

Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers, Jason Bay to the Red Sox, 4 minor leaguers to the Pirates.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3513383

HOLY SHITTY TRADE BATMAN.

I could see Manny for Jason Bay, but why are they giving up Brandon Moss and Craig "the big disapointment" Hanson?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on July 31, 2008, 05:37:02 pm
absolute dog shit. now i have to fuck with the rosters in 2k8 after i just started a franchise with the sox.  gonna be a looooong season.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on July 31, 2008, 05:37:35 pm
:banana:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on July 31, 2008, 06:25:19 pm
Quote from: Klout;197791
yoda were u glad the G-Men dumped shockey?


I\'m a Jets fan, but yes, I was happy when they got rid of him.  I don\'t believe that any one player is better than the whole team.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on July 31, 2008, 10:39:00 pm
Quote from: davepeck;197795
:banana:


You probably thought the same thing after the Nomar trade.  Careful what you wish for Yankee Fan.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on August 01, 2008, 01:28:04 am
the only thing keeping me from being a wicked bitch for a while is knowing paul ryan has a mike an mike bobble head for me (hopefully autographed (just kidding))  my heart will go on, thanks to greeny and golic.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on August 01, 2008, 08:47:26 am
Lost in the shuffle due to the dotinfo East Coast bias (we miss ya, Leith) is that the Dodgers just traded Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Manny F\'n Ramirez. Well done.

Also, just a note that you can tell a lot about a Red Sox fan\'s bandwagon level by how shocked they were when Manny was finally traded. No disrespect to any real, female Red Sox fans reading this, but I\'m noticing a lot of female "fans" reacting this morning like the Red Sox just traded away "their best player" for "no reason". And sadly, neither part of that statement has been true this season.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on August 01, 2008, 12:29:16 pm
Well, this has been an exhausting couple of weeks as a Red Sox fan. I\'m really sad to see Manny go, but I don\'t think he left management much choice. His behavior was unfair to the other players and to the Sox management, but even more so to his fans. The reverence for Manny in Boston is a remarkable thing, and we have been able to forgive an amazing amount of bs from him. But in my opinion this last push has put him on Unforgivable Ground. He has been acting like a whiny pathetic little spoiled brat. What did he think he was getting into when he signed his contract? And did he think that there would never be repercussions for his actions? I\'m tired, and I\'m sick of him at this point. I\'ll always miss his bat, but right now I\'m feeling "good riddance."

I do know that in a couple of weeks this feeling will change, when I\'m not so irritated and the void where the Ortiz-Ramirez one-two punch used to be seems screamingly large.

I must say my heart was heavy when I was at Fenway on Wednesday, knowing I might not ever see Manny again in a Sox uniform. The crowd chanting for Manny sounded tremulous and uncertain, and at the end of the game, we all left the ballpark quietly
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on August 01, 2008, 12:32:03 pm
^^ must have been weird
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: estahwhaddup on August 01, 2008, 12:43:44 pm
well put jocelyn.  i was at the game on monday, i\'m glad i got to witness a manny homerun at fenway...i think the last one too.  seeya in LA manny.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on August 01, 2008, 01:30:24 pm
I was at Fenway on July 31, 2005, which was the trade deadline of that season. Manny wasn\'t in the lineup because they were trying to deal him (in what was pretty much the same situation as this year). With the scored tied in the bottom of the eighth inning, Edgar Renteria hit a two-out double. With Ortiz coming up for the inevitable intentional walk, Manny Ramirez stepped into the on deck circle to pinch hit for Adam Stern and was greeted by the loudest ovation I have ever heard in my life. He came through with the game winning single, and tipped his cap as he stood on first base to thank the Boston fans for still believing in him. It\'s because of this day that Jason Bay could single-handedly win the World Series for Boston this year, and it still wouldn\'t keep me from missing Manny Ramirez at least a little bit.

Interestingly enough, Jonathan Papelbon started the aforementioned game in his major league debut.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on August 01, 2008, 01:52:50 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;197919
I was at Fenway on July 31, 2005, which was the trade deadline of that season. Manny wasn\'t in the lineup because they were trying to deal him (in what was pretty much the same situation as this year). With the scored tied in the bottom of the eighth inning, Edgar Renteria hit a two-out double. With Ortiz coming up for the inevitable intentional walk, Manny Ramirez stepped into the on deck circle to pinch hit for Adam Stern and was greeted by the loudest ovation I have ever heard in my life. He came through with the game winning single, and tipped his cap as he stood on first base to thank the Boston fans for still believing in him. It\'s because of this day that Jason Bay could single-handedly win the World Series for Boston this year, and it still wouldn\'t keep me from missing Manny Ramirez at least a little bit.

Interestingly enough, Jonathan Papelbon started the aforementioned game in his major league debut.



I was thinking about this game every single time Manny was up to bat on Wednesday.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Nermel9 on August 01, 2008, 04:59:43 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;197855

Also, just a note that you can tell a lot about a Red Sox fan\'s bandwagon level by how shocked they were when Manny was finally traded. No disrespect to any real, female Red Sox fans reading this, but I\'m noticing a lot of female "fans" reacting this morning like the Red Sox just traded away "their best player" for "no reason". And sadly, neither part of that statement has been true this season.


Well I\'m a female "fan", and I admit, I was shocked to hear that they actually traded him.  I honestly didn\'t think they would do it, he\'s done this so many times before-he wants to be traded, no, he loves Boston, wants to retire there-that I just assumed it was more Manny being Manny.  I\'m upset that they traded him because he is one of my favorite players and I\'ve always looked the other way with him and never let his comments or actions bother me. At the same time, after having a day to really think about it, maybe the Red Sox are better off without him, he clearly didn\'t want to be here anymore and it seems like he was willing to do and say anything to get traded.  I still don\'t really know how I feel about it yet, I guess that\'s just because I\'m a girl and don\'t really get it. :wink: (Just a joke! :) )
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Ren on August 01, 2008, 06:53:34 pm
I\'d give anything to see him get benched for not running out groundball in L.A.  guess we\'ll have to wait and see...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on August 02, 2008, 11:23:00 am
I can\'t believe that Nomar, Manny, and D-Lowe are managed by Joe Torre.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on August 02, 2008, 08:47:40 pm
back to back  ?  bay is looking good thus far
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on August 05, 2008, 04:39:46 pm
Yet again the Mets play the Padres and don\'t have to face Peavy. It doesn\'t matter though. The Padres were still able to sweep them in a 4 game series in June without Peavy.

Go Padres :hair:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on August 05, 2008, 04:42:14 pm
we have lost like 5 outa 6 games, wagner is out, our starting 2b man is out, john maine is out, and both our starting corner outfielders are out I so dont wanna hear this peavy whining!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on August 05, 2008, 10:04:12 pm
Aaron Heilman needs to be either traded, waived, sent down, or shot.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on August 06, 2008, 01:16:56 am
big win, but Heilman just takes winds out of sails before he even throws a pitch. tomorrow, going down to see Pedro, and honestly dont think he\'s goin more than 6 innings so hope we have at least a 5 run lead by then because relief is not doin it right now
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on August 10, 2008, 03:06:35 pm
How bout Daniel "murphdog" Murphy?

I know its only been 20 something at bats or so but I got a great feeling about this kid.

What a way to break into the majors tho....batting over .500, 5 RBI, a homer, triple, couple doubles, lot of walks...and some nice plays in the outfield too!  Looks great at the plate too. You can tell he is not just getting lucky. As keith would say...he has an idea up there.

We were all freaking out when he hit that pinch hit homer last night.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on August 11, 2008, 01:34:51 pm
Report: Ramirez wants to play for Yankees

http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080809&content_id=1451588&oid=36019&vkey=4

Please God, don\'t let this happen.  We have enough "ME" players without adding the biggest in the league.  If they made this move, I\'d have to give serious consideration to boycotting going to see them until he\'s out of pinstripes.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on August 15, 2008, 09:23:51 am
In my keeper league (4 keepers), my current roster is:

Dioner Navarro
Adrian Gonzalez
Dan Uggla
Kevin Youkilis
Stephen Drew
Matt Holliday
Shane Victorino
Brian Giles
Troy Glaus
Fred Lewis
James Loney
Mike Lowell

I am obviously keeping Holliday and Gonzalez (and Tim Lincecum from my pitching staff). My question to you is, is Kevin Youkilis really my last keeper? I\'m torn between him and Dan Uggla. Help a brotha out. I\'m afraid my Red Sox bias may get in the way of making a rational decision.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on August 17, 2008, 04:17:53 pm
Jo-han!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on September 07, 2008, 06:31:27 pm
So... baseball?

Sox are now 1.5 games behind the Rays.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Ren on September 07, 2008, 07:32:19 pm
gotta ride the wave into the rays series.  hopefully the rays continue to stumble.  how great would it be to finish in 1st?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on September 07, 2008, 08:03:52 pm
^^  honestly couldnt care less if they were first in division or first in wild card.  as long as they reach the playoffs, dominance will take place.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on September 08, 2008, 11:22:54 am
Johan pitched a gem last night, though Pedro got knocked around in the earlier game, but the Mets take it to the Phillies and stay up 2 games. They look a lot better than last year thats for sure, though Billy may be unavailable. Delgado is crushing the ball, Beltran is showing a resurgence, and if Wright starts doin his job at the plate (though the plays he makes on the field are rediiiiculous) ...WATCH OUT!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: zuke583 on September 17, 2008, 11:12:04 am
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ARTxiBaLfnc/SM-eo9O7klI/AAAAAAAABtU/O8JXi7Nc77g/s1600-h/metschoke2.jpg)

in case of red x (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ARTxiBaLfnc/SM-eo9O7klI/AAAAAAAABtU/O8JXi7Nc77g/s1600-h/metschoke2.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: MakisupaCJ on September 18, 2008, 09:14:06 am
It still hasnt sunk in that this is gunna be the last 4 games played at the original yankee stadium. i think i got tickets for the last one. anyone else goin?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 18, 2008, 06:31:20 pm
I never talk sports here (it takes up too much of my non-cyber-life) but are you fucking kidding me with the Cubs game today?!

Brew Crew = The ~\'07 NYM Meltdown~ of \'08
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on September 18, 2008, 06:35:30 pm
Fine with me. Maybe the Brewers should fire another manager with two weeks left. Or re-appeal Sabathia\'s one-hitter in the midst of a pennant race. Pfftt. What a joke.

Hang in there Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 18, 2008, 06:45:38 pm
I\'d much rather see the Mets and Phillies push through than 1 of the above and Milwaukee.. that is unless Sheets is dunzo. Well, even so, just to hear Brewer fans bitch through another offseason.. it\'s nice having shite struggling company in the same division.

That being said the Cubs will not win the World Series. Of course I hope they do, but I\'d be a goddamn fool to set myself up after 24 years of wondering why my father raised me in blue pins. Do we have the team to do it? Absolutely. But, we won\'t. That\'s all.

(mutha\' fuck I hope I\'m wrong... I\'ve never been this nervous approaching any postseason for any sport for any team I love so dearly as this one...)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on September 18, 2008, 06:55:02 pm
Quote from: MakisupaCJ;203298
It still hasnt sunk in that this is gunna be the last 4 games played at the original yankee stadium. i think i got tickets for the last one. anyone else goin?


Sure am.  Under the worst scenario possible.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on September 21, 2008, 05:22:49 pm
I am offering 100 dollars, a 12-pack of Mr. Pibb, and a gross of Ring Dings to the first person who can bring me the head of Aaron Heilman.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on September 21, 2008, 06:00:21 pm
I\'m really pulling for a Yankee loss tonight to close Yankee Stadium AND clinch a playoff spot for the Red Sox.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 22, 2008, 12:10:56 pm
It\'s weird but I\'ve felt very depressed over Yankee Stadium\'s final game. Yesterday I was locked into ESPNRadio for all the pre-game biz and when I got home I found myself watching a "meaningless" baseball game instead of SNF. Today I\'m reading article after article, looking at picture after picture, and it\'s sad. I\'ve never been a Yankee fan, but I was raised to love baseball. I feel a tremendous loss as a baseball lover. I guess in a way I feel older all of the sudden, and not in a good way.

That being said I can\'t even imagine what it\'s like for all of you true Yank fans. Even worse has to be the 75-year-old man who has spent his whole life bleeding Yankee blue, going to games, keeping score... someone who actually saw #7 glide across center field.

At least I got to catch (39% of) a game at Yankee Stadium when I was 8. Donny Baseball went walkoff yardsky to top the Orioles 1-0. Unfortunately for me I only saw the first 3.5 innings. Thank god my father divorced that biatch!

(Go Cubs.)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 23, 2008, 10:14:52 pm
So, the New York Yankees will not be in the postseason for the first time since 1994, a year in which they had the best record in the American League up until the strike canceled the remainder of the season.

For the record, if the wild card existed in 1993, the Yankees would have made the playoffs that year, too. It\'s not a perfect certainty, since the schedules were different due to the two division format, but it\'s probably true.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 24, 2008, 10:07:23 am
I am looking forward to a Cubs-White Sox World Series or Dodgers-Angels World Series.

Deep down inside, I want to see the Rays take it all. Been playing solid baseball all season, I told plainandsimple at the beginning of the season to watch out for the Rays because of their youth.

Have no problem with the Rays taking it all.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 24, 2008, 11:49:01 am
Quote from: Spacey;203938
I am looking forward to a Cubs-White Sox World Series or Dodgers-Angels World Series.

Deep down inside, I want to see the Rays take it all. Been playing solid baseball all season, I told plainandsimple at the beginning of the season to watch out for the Rays because of their youth.

Have no problem with the Rays taking it all.


Although desirable, I don\'t think either scenario is likely (Cubs-Sox, Dodgers-Angels). The Dodgers have to be considered the heavy-dogs to reach the Series, worst division in baseball by far and they still haven\'t sealed it.

If the Cubs don\'t get to the Series, I would also like to see the Rays win it. Especially if they don\'t sell out. It\'s time they move that franchise. The Marlins weren\'t enough to realize pro baseball doesn\'t mean shit in Florida?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on September 24, 2008, 12:20:14 pm
it\'s all well and good that people are gettin fussy about yankee stadium, but how bout the mets, jets, and giants, who all get new stadiums next year as well?  they got no press love
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on September 24, 2008, 12:28:09 pm
Quote from: peaches626;203978
it\'s all well and good that people are gettin fussy about yankee stadium, but how bout the mets, jets, and giants, who all get new stadiums next year as well?  they got no press love


well, for starters, yankee stadium is probably the most renowned stadium in all of sports.

and secondly, all those other teams still have games to play in their old stadiums, while the yankees have played their final game at yankee stadium.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 24, 2008, 12:36:49 pm
Quote from: Gordo;203972
Quote from: Spacey;203938
I am looking forward to a Cubs-White Sox World Series or Dodgers-Angels World Series.

Deep down inside, I want to see the Rays take it all. Been playing solid baseball all season, I told plainandsimple at the beginning of the season to watch out for the Rays because of their youth.

Have no problem with the Rays taking it all.


Although desirable, I don\'t think either scenario is likely (Cubs-Sox, Dodgers-Angels). The Dodgers have to be considered the heavy-dogs to reach the Series, worst division in baseball by far and they still haven\'t sealed it.

If the Cubs don\'t get to the Series, I would also like to see the Rays win it. Especially if they don\'t sell out. It\'s time they move that franchise. The Marlins weren\'t enough to realize pro baseball doesn\'t mean shit in Florida?




I\'m on with the Rays. The larger the crowd the play in front of, the higher winning % they have.

Looks like they sold out the first two playoff games already.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on September 24, 2008, 01:18:26 pm
Quote from: peaches626;203978
it\'s all well and good that people are gettin fussy about yankee stadium, but how bout the mets, jets, and giants, who all get new stadiums next year as well?  they got no press love


True, they are all getting new stadiums, but when was the last time you heard anyone say the following:

- I really want to see Shea Stadium before it closes
- I really need to get to Giants Stadium before it close (for Giants fans)

I know that I don\'t speak for all Jets fans, but I\'m looking forward to getting rid of that place so that I don\'t need to hear Giants fans saying, "You don\'t see a Jets Stadium" or such things.  We will finally have a place that feels like our own and our own locker room.

But this Yankee Stadium is and will always be the most famous place that I have ever visited...period!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 24, 2008, 03:01:09 pm
Quote from: peaches626;203978
it\'s all well and good that people are gettin fussy about yankee stadium, but how bout the mets, jets, and giants, who all get new stadiums next year as well?  they got no press love


Uhhhh yeah. For obvious reasons home slice.

The only other two stadiums that will receive even comparable press will be Fenway and Wrigley when (or if) they get torn down. Baseball = oldest game with the oldest houses in American sports, the two stadiums previously mentioned remain the oldest which is correlated with them being two of the oldest teams, therefore most historically celebrated and/or renowned. Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, Wrigley Field. That\'s thee short list that just got shorter. Sucks really.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 24, 2008, 04:17:06 pm
scrubs are goin down tonight gordo
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 24, 2008, 04:23:22 pm
Quote from: Klout;204024
scrubs are goin down tonight gordo


I\'ll still be smokin my reg seazy cigeezy brotha. It\'s burnin slow while I wait for a post-season opponent to step up.

I hope we lose tonight, I want that Met bullpen soooo bad in the first round.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on September 24, 2008, 05:34:52 pm
got a couple extra tickets for tomorrow night at Shea.. ill be going,and seein if anyone around these parts wants to grab the other(s) and watch us beat the stinkin Cubs
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on September 24, 2008, 08:02:16 pm
Under any normal circumstances I would be all over that extra but i\'ll be on a plane back from florida...damn!


I\'m a Red Sox fan, but have always rooted for the Mets in the NL

Go Mets!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 24, 2008, 08:11:27 pm
hahahahahha!

peep the meltdown!

zambozo is such a loooooser !

gado = mvp
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 24, 2008, 08:43:32 pm
Quote from: Klout;204047
gado = mvp


Albert Pujols is the NL MVP, no doubt about it.

For the record, Page 2 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keri/080923&sportCat=mlb) made the argument much more eloquently than I am about to. If you really care, you should read their article instead. My post is a cross between the cliff notes of that article and my own thoughts. Anyway...

Pujols\' batting average more or less equals Delgado\'s on-base percentage. Plus, Delgado has been batting either between or behind David Wright and Carlos Beltran, whereas Pujols is batting in a lineup where his batting average is 40 points higher than that of the next best hitter. Pujols is in the top five in a ridiculous number of hitting categories. Delgado leads Pujols only in home runs (by 3) and RBI (by 2).

As for the argument that the MVP needs to come from a playoff team, is it really Pujols\' fault, looking at his numbers, that his team isn\'t in the playoffs? Wild card race not withstanding, his team is going to be at least .500 and has a chance to finish with a better record than the NL West Champion. I do believe that the MVP shouldn\'t come from a last place team, but it shouldn\'t fall in Pujols\' lap that his team finished six games out of the wild race behind a team like the Mets that has a far superior lineup.

And this is not attack on Klout, the Mets or Carlos Delgado. There is a case for Delgado as MVP from the "inspirational story" and "team leader" perspective. But my career as a stat-hound has definitely shaped my definition of the Most Valuable Player.

Mmmm... longwinded and unnecessary.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 24, 2008, 08:49:26 pm
its not about all about stats!!!!! I am believer of the mvp not coming from a shit team. a player that is huge down the stretch and hits huge home runs in clutch spots and pushes a team on the edge into the playoffs is much MUCH more VALUABLE than someone who hits .370 and 130 RBI and 50 HR in the middle of  crap line up....how is that VALUABLE? It has no value. its worthless! pujols can get the biggest waste of talent award...but not most VALUABLE player! What makes a player valuable....what he does for his team. its all relative to the TEAM. not the numbers he racks up. while it might not be his fault he is on a shit team, pujols essentially has no more inherent VALUE to his team than the worst player on that team because neither could do anything to get them into the play offs which is all that matters. stats are good and useful when you have to split hairs between two or more players like gado and howard this year who are better and worse in different categories but both have huge value and impact on helping their team win down the stretch and make the playoffs.  if your not helping your team win and make the play offs down the stretch then your intrinsic VALUE is nothing regardless of your numbers.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 24, 2008, 09:06:39 pm
Quote from: Klout;204049
its not about all about stats!!!!! I am believer of the mvp not coming from a shit team. a player that is huge down the stretch and hits huge home runs in clutch spots and pushes a team on the edge into the playoffs is much MUCH more VALUABLE than someone who hits .370 and 130 RBI and 50 HR in the middle of  crap line up....how is that VALUABLE? It has no value. its worthless! pujols can get the biggest waste of talent award...but not most VALUABLE player! What makes a player valuable....what he does for his team. its all relative to the TEAM. not the numbers he racks up. while it might not be his fault he is on a shit team, pujols essentially has no more inherent VALUE to his team than the worst player on that team because neither could do anything to get them into the play offs which is all that matters. stats are good and useful when you have to split hairs between two or more players like gado and howard this year who are better and worse in different categories but both have huge value and impact on helping their team win down the stretch and make the playoffs.  if your not helping your team win and make the play offs down the stretch then your intrinsic VALUE is nothing regardless of your numbers.

Fair enough. All I know is that the AL MVP had better not be Francisco Rodriguez.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 24, 2008, 11:24:41 pm
I\'m going to go ahead and say that Pujols IS the MVP. Without him the Cards would be competing with Pittsburgh for the worst record in the NL Central.. 82-76 aint too shabby, and that man is responsible for keeping his team in contention up until the last couple of weeks.

However based on your analysis Klout--- Aramis Ramirez is the MVP. Clutch clutch clutch.

Oh, by the way....

SOOOOORRRRRY CHIP.

Wild Card all even.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on September 24, 2008, 11:37:44 pm
they used 7 pitchers again.. they are arent gona win shit unless someone steps up and can be the one to go to. how they leave so many people on base is beyond me also. gona try to forget about it while down there tomorrow and pray Pedro can avoid getting blasted early.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on September 25, 2008, 09:12:00 am
While Pujols has the sick stats, Manny has vaulted the Dodgers from a somewhat distant second place into the playoffs as the divisional winner. Since he was traded to the Dodgers, he\'s hitting .398 (72/181), 17hr, 53rbi, 36r  and 1.228ops in only 50 games (29-21). Can\'t deny how important he\'s been since the Dodgers signed him. Without him they\'d be nowhere near a divisional title.

On a side note, I\'d even put Howard in front of Delgado in the MVP race. He has solid numbers over the last couple months and the Phillies seem to rise/drop based on how well he is hitting the ball. [Ramirez, Pujols, Howard, DLgado]
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 25, 2008, 09:16:23 am
that was a tough tough loss last night. David wright has just been so unclutch. I mean murph dog leads off the bottom nineth in a tie game with a bust ass triple and dwright strikes out? COME ON! this one falls squarely on the offense not the pen.  too many blown chances.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 25, 2008, 10:02:27 am
Quote from: DocEllis70;204054
they used 7 pitchers again.. they are arent gona win shit unless someone steps up and can be the one to go to. how they leave so many people on base is beyond me also. gona try to forget about it while down there tomorrow and pray Pedro can avoid getting blasted early.


I still blame the Wagner injury. He brought stability to that bullpen.

Can\'t win when you use your entire bullpen nightly.

Sad really.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 25, 2008, 10:05:52 am
when the one guy who has an ERA in the low twos goes down, leaving a bunch of scrubs with ERAs in the 4-6 range to pick up the slack its going to have a huge impact. hopefully johny boy maine can help.  jerry shoulda put him in for the 10th last night instead of running the way overworked ayala out for a second inning. thats just asking way too much.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 25, 2008, 10:15:53 am
Is it possible the Mets don\'t make it to the playoffs again this year?

All tied up with the Brewers going into the final 4 days of the regular season. Did not expect that at all.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on September 25, 2008, 10:21:25 am
I\'m not rooting for The Mets to lose, but I wouldn\'t be upset if they didn\'t make the playoffs.  It definitely be Karma for what they did to Willie.

As far as I\'m concerned, I\'m now rooting for Tampa Bay and whoever play boston.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 25, 2008, 10:37:33 am
Quote from: Yoda;204088
I\'m not rooting for The Mets to lose, but I wouldn\'t be upset if they didn\'t make the playoffs.  It definitely be Karma for what they did to Willie.

As far as I\'m concerned, I\'m now rooting for Tampa Bay and whoever play boston.


I never agreed with the style that the Mets handled the Willie firing but it seemed like it needed to be done for the betterment of the team.

Been routing for the Rays since the beginning of the year. Hope to see them continue to play good baseball. The playoffs are foreign ground to the Rays and that might mean something later.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 25, 2008, 11:01:58 pm
So I\'m just leaving the school library, checked the MLB scoreboard..... must\'ve been a wild one Met fans. Daaaaaaaamn!

Now let\'s get a Brewer loss.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on September 25, 2008, 11:12:15 pm
SICK game.

best thing about baseball is you could watch it for 40 years then still see something you never saw before. i.e. that play at the plate with church.

hope aruny stayed dry somehow or at least got good and drunk! it was pouring half the game.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 26, 2008, 01:37:09 am
I just saw the highlights.... what the fuck was with Murphy\'s buntly-boner-at-bat?? That was fucking reetaahdid. 2-0 count and we\'re bunting? 2-2 count and we\'re bunting? Did I just hear that right--he hasn\'t laid down a bunt in the majors OR minors this year? Your Mets are lucky, those are the kind of decisions that could (and maybe should) end a season in this spot.

That play at the plate was crazy indeed.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on September 26, 2008, 02:23:00 am
up in the mezzanine is the way to go with weather like tonights. it was quite the game to see..a roller coaster of events.  thought the bunt tactic was pretty bone headed and Manuel said postgame it was not advised, so im sure murphy heard about it after.Church rebounds from last night and  Pedros pitching was there and glad to see him do it at his possible last performance at shea.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 08:09:49 am
Aruny, when was/is your final game at Shea? Any tickets for this weekend?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on September 26, 2008, 11:29:11 am
A little history, I was talking with pitchy last night and couldn\'t remember which game this was until I looked it up:

Quote
The Curse of Fred Merkle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Fred_Merkle) has haunted the Chicago Cubs for many years. During the 1908 National League pennant race, the Cubs took advantage of a mistake by New York Giants\' rookie Fred Merkle. This served to give Chicago the title. They went on to win the World Series that year, but have yet to win another one.

The Situation

[edit] The Original Game
In 1908, the Cubs and Giants were in a fierce battle with each other for the National League pennant. The two teams played each other at the Polo Grounds in New York on September 23. It was a key matchup in the fight for the championship.

The game was tied, 1-1, in the bottom of the ninth inning. The Giants had Moose McCormick on third base and Merkle on first with two outs. Al Bridwell was the batter. Bridwell hit a single into the outfield, scoring McCormick. The Giants had an apparent victory, setting off an emotional scene of fans running onto the field.

As McCormick scored, Merkle turned and headed off the field without reaching second base. Cubs\' infielder Johnny Evers saw that Fred didn\'t touch the base. Through the crowd of happy Giants\' fans, Evers tried to get the ball in order to get the force out at second. Giants\' pitcher Joe McGinnity, seeing what Evers was up to, grabbed the ball and threw it far away. Anyway, Evers managed to come up with a ball and stepped on second base. Following the rules, umpire Hank O\'Day called Merkle out, cancelling the winning run. The game was declared a tie.


[edit] The Replayed Game
The Cubs and Giants finished the regular season tied for first place in the National League. In order to decide the pennant (and a spot in the World Series), the teams had to replay the tie game on October 8. Chicago won, 4-2, to become the champions of the National League for the third straight year. New York was left without a title they thought was theirs.


[edit] World Series of 1908
The Cubs went into the World Series, where they defeated the Detroit Tigers, 4 games to 1 for their second consecutive world championship. This is the last World Series the Cubs have won - a Series in which they would not have been had they not taken advantage of Fred Merkle.

Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 11:33:13 am
Our own DW has tickets to the last game of the season at Feway.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on September 26, 2008, 11:37:28 am
if tonights game gets rained out to a double header game sunday I\'m getting the tickets. (runs off to do his rain dance) :hehehe:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on September 26, 2008, 11:43:54 am
I thought the Cubs curse was the curse of the goat or something.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 11:49:35 am
Quote from: Me!;204397
I thought the Cubs curse was the curse of the goat or something.


It is the Curse of the Billy Goat.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on September 26, 2008, 11:59:27 am
Quote from: wikipedia
The Curse of Billy "The Goat" Sianis
Main article: Chicago Cubs futility theories
The Curse of the Billy Goat is a curse on the Chicago Cubs that was started in 1945. As the story goes, Billy Sianis, a Greek immigrant (from Paleopyrgos, Greece[1]), who owned a nearby tavern (the now-famous Billy Goat Tavern), had two $7.20 box seat tickets to Game 4 of the 1945 World Series between the Chicago Cubs and the Detroit Tigers, and decided to bring along his pet goat, Murphy (or Sinovia according to some references), which Sianis had restored to health when the goat had fallen off a truck and subsequently limped into his tavern. The goat wore a blanket with a sign pinned to it which read "We got Detroit\'s goat".[2] Sianis and the goat were allowed into Wrigley Field and even paraded about on the playing field before the game before ushers intervened and led them off the field. After a heated argument, both Sianis and the goat were permitted to stay in the stadium occupying the box seat for which he had tickets. At this point, Andy Frain (head of Wrigley Field\'s hired security company at the time), waved the goat\'s box-seat ticket in the air and proclaimed, "If he eats the ticket that would solve everything."[2] However, the goat did not. Before the game was over, it started to rain and Sianis and the goat were ejected from the stadium at the command of Cubs owner Philip Knight Wrigley due to the objectionable odor of wet goat. Sianis was outraged at the ejection and allegedly placed a curse upon the Cubs that they would never win another pennant or play in a World Series at Wrigley Field again because the Cubs organization had insulted his goat, and subsequently left the U.S. to vacation in his home in Greece.

The Cubs lost Game 4 and eventually the 1945 World Series, prompting Sianis to write to Wrigley from Greece, saying, "Who stinks now?"
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 12:00:52 pm
See.

Watch out who you offend.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 26, 2008, 12:09:48 pm
Nerves are mounting, goats are being sacrificed. Bring on whoever the fuck wants it....!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on September 26, 2008, 12:18:09 pm
the cubs have more than one curse working against them. I heard they started the great chicago fire.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on September 26, 2008, 01:19:31 pm
Quote from: Spacey;204392
Our own DW has tickets to the last game of the season at Feway.


indeed, i\'m hoping this rain stops.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 01:25:58 pm
Quote from: derickw;204446
Quote from: Spacey;204392
Our own DW has tickets to the last game of the season at Feway.


indeed, i\'m hoping this rain stops.


I hope it rains on your parade.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on September 26, 2008, 02:23:33 pm
Quote from: Spacey;204450
Quote from: derickw;204446
Quote from: Spacey;204392
Our own DW has tickets to the last game of the season at Feway.


indeed, i\'m hoping this rain stops.


I hope it rains on your parade.


NO WAMMY!!! NO WAMMY!!!!! STOP

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Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 26, 2008, 02:25:48 pm
Derek, you just stopped on monsoon type weather!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: derickw on September 26, 2008, 04:24:48 pm
weather men are like politicians..... they don\'t know shit
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on September 27, 2008, 04:01:46 pm
Johan Santana deserves to be the National League\'s Most Valuable Player.

Let\'s Go Mets!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on September 27, 2008, 05:18:09 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;204641
Johan Santana deserves to be the National League\'s Most Valuable Player.

Let\'s Go Mets!!!


Is anybody with Pitchie today?  I fear for his safety.  Suicide watch should be in full effect.  If it all ends for the Mets today make ure we get confirmation that this kid is alive, ok?

Meanwhile, with the Lowell and Drew injuries and Beckett and Ortiz not really themselves, the Red Sox enter the playoffs as the worst team to make the playoffs in th wild-card era that wasn\'t from the NL West.  Oh well, let\'s shock the world again!

And what\'s up with the Yankees winning 19-8 at Fenway, the same score as the infamous Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS.  There\'s something significant about that, I can\'t put my finger on what it is yet.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on September 27, 2008, 06:58:03 pm
No suicide watch Wolf. Just a million thanks to Ted Lilly. And a begrudging congrats to the Phillies.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 28, 2008, 05:13:48 pm
I guess gado can NOT be the NL MVP, huh Klout?

Sorry Met fans, but that\'s two successive bed-shitters. These playoffs are going to be fun.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on September 28, 2008, 05:23:08 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch;204659
No suicide watch Wolf. Just a million thanks to Ted Lilly. And a begrudging congrats to the Phillies.


That was yesterday.

Somenoe please confirm the continued existence of Chistopher Piccorillo immediately.  Thanks.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on September 28, 2008, 05:55:37 pm
Their bullpen sucked all year. They didn\'t get two-out hits all year. They didn\'t deserve to make it.

Sincerely,

Christopher Piccirillo

P.S.: Rays over Dodgers
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: DocEllis70 on September 28, 2008, 06:33:31 pm
the games earlier in the season they blew came back to bite em in the ass and they should implode the bullpen with the stadium
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 28, 2008, 07:28:24 pm
Blame Wagner.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 29, 2008, 10:46:00 am
Quote from: ChrisPitch;204753
Their bullpen sucked all year. They didn\'t get two-out hits all year. They didn\'t deserve to make it.

Sincerely,

Christopher Piccirillo

P.S.: Rays over :point: Dodgers
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on September 29, 2008, 10:52:39 am
My two thoughts for the rest of the postseason are:

1. Go Tampa
2. Go Angels

The national league could sniff a wet fart for all I care.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 29, 2008, 11:07:42 am
I wouldn\'t mind the Cubs taking the NL. They deserve it after the team they fielded this season.

I am sticking with Tampa Bay. Might be a long shot because they lack post-season experience but I like the youth.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: davepeck on September 29, 2008, 11:09:51 am
Quote from: Yoda;204856
My two thoughts for the rest of the postseason are:

1. Go Tampa
2. Go Angels

The national league could sniff a wet fart for all I care.


really? not rooting for Torre?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on September 29, 2008, 11:16:03 am
Quote from: davepeck;204861
Quote from: Yoda;204856
My two thoughts for the rest of the postseason are:

1. Go Tampa
2. Go Angels

The national league could sniff a wet fart for all I care.


really? not rooting for Torre?


If it comes down to a Boston/Doger WS, I\'ll root for the Dodgers, but I\'m conflicted on that one.  On one hand I want to root for Torre/Mattingly (for obvious reasons), but on the other hand, I don\'t want to because I think Manny is a big piece of dog shit.  So, for that matter, I say go Tampa because I think they deserve it the way they\'ve played all year.  And I think it\'s obvious why I would say go Angels.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 29, 2008, 11:19:23 am
Good point about Torre. He has done well in L.A., deserves to make at least a run but I don\'t think the Dodgers have what it takes to be playing for the World Series. However, the NL looks like it is completely up for grabs.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 29, 2008, 01:42:15 pm
The pitching matchups for the first three games of the Cubs/Dodgers series:

Dempster vs. Lowe
Zambrano vs. Billingsley
Harden vs. Kuroda

The Cubs aren\'t a lock by any means, but I don\'t know how anyone could pick the Dodgers given that information alone.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 29, 2008, 02:13:05 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;204923
The pitching matchups for the first three games of the Cubs/Dodgers series:

Dempster vs. Lowe
Zambrano vs. Billingsley
Harden vs. Kuroda

The Cubs aren\'t a lock by any means, but I don\'t know how anyone could pick the Dodgers given that information alone.


Agree but that is the beauty of baseball.

How did the Rockies make it to the World Series last year?

All a team needs is to be in that groove and it doesn\'t matter if you are farting the ball out of your ass across the plate.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 29, 2008, 05:45:39 pm
Quote from: Spacey;204928
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;204923
The pitching matchups for the first three games of the Cubs/Dodgers series:

Dempster vs. Lowe
Zambrano vs. Billingsley
Harden vs. Kuroda

The Cubs aren\'t a lock by any means, but I don\'t know how anyone could pick the Dodgers given that information alone.


Agree but that is the beauty of baseball.

How did the Rockies make it to the World Series last year?

All a team needs is to be in that groove and it doesn\'t matter if you are farting the ball out of your ass across the plate.


And furthermore, we\'re, uhhhhhhh, the Cubs, right? I\'m nervous as fuck to be honest, and just got a phone call from my brother--- I got a ticket for Thursday night! Hell yeah, haven\'t been to a Cub playoff game since the NLDS \'03 against Atlanta, where Prior (pffft) shut them down and all of Wrigley was mock chopping the Braves with \'ol Cubby blue hats. Best live sports moment I\'ve ever had as a spectator in attendance.

It\'s all about Game 1. Seriously, if we lose on Wednesday I\'ll put my life on a series loss.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on September 30, 2008, 09:11:48 am
Sucks to be a Mets fan.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on September 30, 2008, 03:19:48 pm
Quote from: tyzack;205018
Sucks to be a Mets fan.


Nothing new here.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 30, 2008, 03:36:42 pm
The 2007 and 2008 Mets: Ya Gotta Bereave!

(Wish I could take credit for that one... heard it on WPLR at work this morning)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on September 30, 2008, 03:46:29 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;205098
The 2007 and 2008 Mets: Ya Gotta Bereave!

(Wish I could take credit for that one... heard it on WPLR at work this morning)


They should use Jong Il\'s voice from Team America to relay that quote.. It\'d be like, ironic, man.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on September 30, 2008, 10:11:10 pm
I predict a World Series of LA vs. Chicago.  

Haha.  

Go Red Sox...it\'s not gonna be easy.  I can\'t believe the 2 most important arms in Boston (Beckett and Brady) both went down within 3 weeks of each other.  Oof.  Just goes to show how lucky we\'ve been here with everything.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 01, 2008, 10:01:50 am
Fun game to watch last night.

Then Thome hits one out.

Fuck the Twins.

Tonight starts the 2008 playoffs with 3 games.

Milwaukee at Philadelphia   3:00 PM   Gallardo vs Hamels
LA Dodgers at Chicago Cubs   6:30 PM   Lowe vs Dempster
Boston at LA Angels         10:00 PM   Lester vs Lackey


Taking the home team for all 3 to start.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 01, 2008, 10:03:24 am
i\'m PUMPED for tonight.  ready for another angels sweep.  haha without beckett till game 3 it seems unlikely, but i think we got this series
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 01, 2008, 10:04:17 am
I don\'t see Boston making it out of the first round with anything more than a win.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: zuke583 on October 01, 2008, 10:47:57 am
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOAAAARD

YES!!!!

(go chisox)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 01, 2008, 10:52:01 am
That was a great game last night. Thome absolutely destroyed that pitch, deepest homer to center I\'ve seen at the Cell. Great play at the plate to preserve the shutout. Exciting finish.

These playoffs will be interesting.

There is certainly a little butt nugget already in my drawers.

Do it Dempster. Go Cubs.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 01, 2008, 11:51:26 am
Quote from: bezerker;205225
i\'m PUMPED for tonight.  ready for another angels sweep.  haha without beckett till game 3 it seems unlikely, but i think we got this series


Beckett has not been what he was the last few seasons.  I think our one win (maybe two with a 3 pitcher roataion) this series come via our new ace Lester.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 01, 2008, 11:56:37 am
Beckett had always been an ace when it comes to the playoffs. I still believe this until otherwise.

Lester proved to be a nasty pitcher and he can make something happen.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 01, 2008, 05:36:26 pm
I am definitely not a fan of the resurgence of the phrase "Beat L.A." amongst Red Sox fans.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 01, 2008, 06:07:33 pm
Massacre Boston is my phrase for the first week of the playoffs.

I\'m going to hang out with some Red Sox fans tonight.

Mission=annoy and make them cry

Hamels and the Phillies take game 1 versus the Brewers. I don\'t think any of these games go past 5.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 01, 2008, 06:08:43 pm
is the cubs dodgers game on espn ?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Igziabeher on October 01, 2008, 06:10:01 pm
TBS brah.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 02, 2008, 01:29:17 am
My faith is renewed, what a well played game from both ends.  Great pitchers battle, till the end of the game.  Lester looked phenomenal as he has all season.  

Let\'s go Sox!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on October 02, 2008, 07:33:18 am
still pulling for a cubs/red sox series! (with the red sox winning)

Let\'s go cubbies! Get there so we can stomp on you!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on October 02, 2008, 08:01:59 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;205422
I am definitely not a fan of the resurgence of the phrase "Beat L.A." amongst Red Sox fans.


100% agree.

Also, "Beat LA" has to be the worst chant ever.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on October 02, 2008, 08:55:44 am
Quote from: tyzack;205488
"Beat LA" has to be the worst chant ever.


J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 02, 2008, 09:30:22 am
Dodgers looked good yesterday.

Did anyone else witness Manny running an infield grounder out and getting to the bag safely?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 02, 2008, 09:34:51 am
Quote from: Spacey;205500
Dodgers looked good yesterday.

Did anyone else witness Manny running an infield grounder out and getting to the bag safely?


infield hit.  what a prick.  lester was lights out and ellsbury was playing aggressive as hell.  aswesome game
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 02, 2008, 09:37:52 am
Quote from: bezerker;205503
Quote from: Spacey;205500
Dodgers looked good yesterday.

Did anyone else witness Manny running an infield grounder out and getting to the bag safely?


infield hit.  what a prick.  lester was lights out and ellsbury was playing aggressive as hell.  aswesome game


that is the 2nd Dodger game I watched this year where Manny was running down the first baseline compared to the Boston Strut.

The first time I saw Manny try was after laying down a bunt and running it out.

He has worked well in LA.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 02, 2008, 12:02:28 pm
^^^^
it\'s unfortunate that he became such a lazy player that the sox were forced to get rid of him while still paying his salary for the rest of this year
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 02, 2008, 12:05:07 pm
I think last night couldn\'t have illustrated the Manny-Bay trade being win-win for all parties any better.

That being said I refuse to talk about anything else playoffs. I will go continue to craft my noose.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 03, 2008, 07:14:07 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;204923
The pitching matchups for the first three games of the Cubs/Dodgers series:

Dempster vs. Lowe
Zambrano vs. Billingsley
Harden vs. Kuroda

The Cubs aren\'t a lock by any means, but I don\'t know how anyone could pick the Dodgers given that information alone.

BUMP... just in case anybody was wondering why I still work in collegiate volleyball instead of working for Baseball Tonight.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 03, 2008, 09:01:29 am
What happened to the Cubs?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 03, 2008, 04:32:58 pm
Are the Cubs all done tomorrow? Getting booed of your field must not sit well.

Got a feeling the Rays are taking this one tonight.

An a 180%, the Red Sox sweep the Angels.

Possible the 2 teams with the best records in baseball take a seat after the first round.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 03, 2008, 09:48:33 pm
jason motha fuckin bay 3 run homer !!!   4 runs with 2 outs in first inning, almost thru entire line up.  looking good thus far
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 03, 2008, 10:22:35 pm
Sox look hot early.

Go Rays!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 03, 2008, 11:21:47 pm
I was really hoping the Rays would have more trouble in the first round so the Sox wouldn\'t meet them in the next round.  But as this LA vs BOS series is showing (don\'t want to speak too early it\'s only the 5th in Game 2(and all of a sudden LA has a chance)) the regular season record doesn\'t mean much.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 03, 2008, 11:27:46 pm
its starting to get ugly
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 03, 2008, 11:36:47 pm
Dice-K makes me fuckin nervous from first pitch to last.  Squeaked his way outta the 5th though.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 03, 2008, 11:58:20 pm
As a Red Sox fan I would be nervous about the Rays. They have that attitude, they are young and they have played great baseball all year.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: mcajam on October 04, 2008, 12:02:27 am
Do we Start Wake if we take a 2-0 lead?  I would say yes..
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 04, 2008, 12:05:47 am
Quote from: mcajam;205885
Do we Start Wake if we take a 2-0 lead?  I would say yes..


Beckett starts on Sun.
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081003&content_id=3586983&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 04, 2008, 12:08:21 am
beckett game 3.  i\'d say wake game 4 if necessary
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on October 04, 2008, 12:12:24 am
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_NKcmPrAjak4/RwZgZTLJ3dI/AAAAAAAAAQg/VnUReoRJtU8/s400/Choke+Cubs_02.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 04, 2008, 12:14:31 am
Quote from: bezerker;205887
beckett game 3.  i\'d say wake game 4 if necessary


That\'s the beauty of this whole day off every other thing, we could go right back to Lester, who would be a better decision IMHO.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 04, 2008, 12:17:32 am
good point mandler.  that would be the ideal choice
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 04, 2008, 12:58:12 am
Tie-game.  FUCK!

Scratch that.

JD Drew 2 run homer top of the 9th. FUCK YEAH!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 04, 2008, 01:09:31 am
J D  motha fuckin DREW !!!!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 04, 2008, 01:25:19 am
Quote from: BennyBoomers;205889
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_NKcmPrAjak4/RwZgZTLJ3dI/AAAAAAAAAQg/VnUReoRJtU8/s400/Choke+Cubs_02.jpg)


LOL!

Funniest shit I have seen in a while.

Quote from: bezerker;205895
J D  motha fuckin DREW !!!!!!

JD Drew has proved to be a great acquisition and proved it this ear.

Great catch by Youkilis.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 04, 2008, 01:28:50 am
in ellis\' words , " YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

angels fans HATE us
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: mcajam on October 04, 2008, 01:44:25 am
Woooooooooooooo
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 04, 2008, 02:42:12 am
Awesome game tonight, what a win for the Red Sox.  Game was exactly 4 hours, of which I think the Angels were at bat for 3 to the Red Sox 1 and the Sox won.

Now hear this everyone in SanFran and LA: I am a New England fan, and this Sunday I own you.  49ers, Angels, you\'re both dead meat.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 04, 2008, 03:00:14 am
Does anyone else have serious issues with Craig Sager the TBS on field reporter.  He is just absolutely horrible.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 04, 2008, 03:10:27 am
^^  the dude is BRUTAL
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: mcajam on October 04, 2008, 04:05:04 am
He does the NBA and his schtick is his ironic suit
awful.........
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 04, 2008, 12:55:04 pm
TBS Reporters are hacks
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 05, 2008, 03:59:34 pm
Dodgers sweep.

Hope the Phillies win this afternoon. Don\'t mind the Brewers.

Beginning to root for the Dodgers because of the Red Sox and Yankees transplants.

Got a feeling the Sox  sweep tonight behind Beckett.

Rays sweep but we already know this is inevitable.

Dodgers versus Phillies for the National League Championship.

Who would have thought that Joe Torre would be one series win away from the World Series in his first year with out the Yankees.

Now lets see if the Red Sox and the Rays nail the coffins shut.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 05, 2008, 04:15:00 pm
i cant wait to see beckett pwn LA tonight.  angels can\'t find an answer for anything this series
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 05, 2008, 11:47:55 pm
just got home and turned the game on with lowell to bat!!!


goo!


stop it!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 12:10:59 am
this game is torturing me

nothing better than 5+ hour baseball games tho ! !
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 06, 2008, 12:18:15 am
strike three on ellsbury right there in the 11th was waaaay outside.


now thats dick
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 12:21:26 am
torture
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 06, 2008, 12:46:53 am
good game, from what i saw anyway.... shitty outcome- sox were hittin the ball hard, but right at people all night... take em down tomorrow boys!


tomorrow?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 12:49:29 am
Torture
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 12:16:46 pm
Quote from: peaches626;206159
good game

I disagree, I didn\'t think either team deserved to win that game.  Beckett didn\'t pitch well LA didn\'t field well, Boston didnt\' hit at all really.  Lester tonight though, our new ace.  Pressure\'s on us now though.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 06, 2008, 12:57:25 pm
ya, i def didn\'t see much of the game but the extra innings, looks like beckett finally pitched a post season non-gem
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 06, 2008, 03:40:49 pm
All four of Boston\'s runs were the result of bad fielding... it would have been such a sour way for the Angels\' season to end.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 08:31:13 pm
i dont understand why tbs didnt have sorry chip do play by play for the white sox and don orsillo for the red sox

or have that brutal song play every before every commercial break
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 10:58:29 pm
I walk in the door a couple minutes ago, to se Masterson come in walk Vlad, and then give up a 2 run single to tie it up.  :rolleyes: you gotta be fuckin kidding me.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 11:00:56 pm
FUCK they should have kept lester in
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 11:09:31 pm
God these last two games have been frustrating to watch

(atleast the part of this one I\'ve seen)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 06, 2008, 11:20:39 pm
Wow!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 11:20:52 pm
HUGE play by Tech.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 11:25:12 pm
jason motha fuckin bay !!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 11:27:14 pm
Yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!yes!!!

Fuck Yes!!!!!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 06, 2008, 11:27:21 pm
Wow-wow-weeeee-wow!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 11:28:47 pm
HOW SWEET IT IS  :biggrin:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 06, 2008, 11:30:31 pm
At least my team #2 is doin\' it. I should just become employed full-time.

Congrats BoSox fans! Sick ending. That had to be the four quickest at-bats in post-season history.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 06, 2008, 11:31:15 pm
Lowrie comes through!!!  WOW!  He\'s missed so many opportunities on huge at-bats, including last night and several times late in the season.  I was starting to worry his confidence might really be getting f^%*$d.  So much for that!  Bring on the Rays!  I hope we have more fans at the games in Tampa than the Rays do, per usual.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 11:32:14 pm
Quote from: Gordo;206318
At least my team #2 is doin\' it. I should just become employed full-time.


^^ Yes, yes you should
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 06, 2008, 11:33:03 pm
sox vs dodgers.   fuck you manny
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 06, 2008, 11:34:06 pm
Just as I was thinking, "The Red Sox are going to lose this with their best pitcher (Papelbon) on the bench", that\'s exactly what happened to the Angels. Sometimes, you have to forget about "save situations" and let your best pitcher go out and pitch.

Did anybody else have a Tony Clark flashback (2004 ALCS) when Bay\'s hit took an impossible bounce to become a ground rule double? I thought that was the sign that the Sox weren\'t meant to win this one.

I definitely fear the Rays: A young team with nothing left to prove that has taken it to the Red Sox all season long.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 06, 2008, 11:41:29 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;206323

I definitely fear the Rays: A young team with nothing left to prove that has taken it to the Red Sox all season long.


Yeah I do as well.  But the match up was pretty even all season, they\'ve got the edge, esp at "the Trop" (god I hate that)  But it should be a good match up
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 07, 2008, 12:01:28 am
Should be a great series.

I\'m hoping for a Dodgers-Red Sox WS with Boston really stickin\' it to them. Ideal ending would be Game 7--tie-game, two outs, top of the 9th, men on 2nd and 3rd: Manny K\'s. Bay leads off the bottom half with a towering shot to left, though playable, in which Manny mis-plays, falls down, then chucks 6 rows deep behind Boston\'s dug-out as Bay is half-way home.

After my last reply in the Phish thread, I showed up as the last reply: #400. I was also listed as the last reply here: #500. They were stacked. Wolfman, this must be the first occurrence in .info history that two threads reach 400 and 500 posts almost simultaneously and sit on top of the board. Furthermore, I\'d like a probablility figure showing what those chances are, and what the chances that the same person has numbers 400 and 500 respectively.
I cannot believe I\'m not studying and typing some useless bullshit like this instead. Total lack of discipline and focus at the moment.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: mcajam on October 07, 2008, 12:10:09 am
Quote from: Wolfman;206320
Lowrie comes through!!!  WOW!  He\'s missed so many opportunities on huge at-bats, including last night and several times late in the season.  I was starting to worry his confidence might really be getting f^%*$d.  So much for that!  Bring on the Rays!  I hope we have more fans at the games in Tampa than the Rays do, per usual.

game 4, lets go!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 07, 2008, 12:23:05 am
sweet win, got home too late and missed the exciting end, just caught the highlights, bring on the rays!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 07, 2008, 01:07:21 am
What a great end.
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6243/37baybygross12233509413iw7.jpg)

from that to Tampa

(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2120/largecrisppunchcz7.jpg)

Bring it on.....
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 07, 2008, 09:33:41 am
"lester\'s been throwing the dickens out of the ball " :lol:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 10:18:01 am
Let\'s go RAYS!

Let\'s go Dodgers!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 07, 2008, 11:53:44 am
Who is actually your MLB team Spacey? Generally speaking.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 12:05:53 pm
Quote from: Gordo;206407
Who is actually your MLB team Spacey? Generally speaking.


Yankees by Birth.

Red Sox by living in MA for 8 years.

I am generally a Red Yankee.

I am however prone to following players around and generally, I like good sports. I like when teams click and all that.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 07, 2008, 02:52:47 pm
Quote from: Spacey;206413
Quote from: Gordo;206407
Who is actually your MLB team Spacey? Generally speaking.


Yankees by Birth.

Red Sox by living in MA for 8 years.

I am generally a Red Yankee.

I am however prone to following players around and generally, I like good sports. I like when teams click and all that.


What the fuck? That\'s crazy man. Yankees didn\'t make it, so I\'d assume you\'d root for the Sox (which doesn\'t make any sense to begin with). So you cheer on the Sox until the ALCS when they meet the Rays, whom you are now pulling for. What a ridiculous synopsis. You are the walking definition of a fair-weather fan, and I\'m jealous. I guess you win every season then. Unless you gamble on sports of course.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 07, 2008, 03:01:40 pm
Quote from: Gordo;206503
Quote from: Spacey;206413
Quote from: Gordo;206407
Who is actually your MLB team Spacey? Generally speaking.

Yankees by Birth.

Red Sox by living in MA for 8 years.

I am generally a Red Yankee.

I am however prone to following players around and generally, I like good sports. I like when teams click and all that.

What the fuck? That\'s crazy man. Yankees didn\'t make it, so I\'d assume you\'d root for the Sox (which doesn\'t make any sense to begin with). So you cheer on the Sox until the ALCS when they meet the Rays, whom you are now pulling for. What a ridiculous synopsis. You are the walking definition of a fair-weather fan, and I\'m jealous. I guess you win every season then. Unless you gamble on sports of course.

Benefit of living in CT. We have access to Red Sox nation and the Yankee Universe.

I have ALWAYS been a Yankees fan first.

I like the Sox because they play good baseball and because 90% of the people I knew in MA believed I was a Sox fan, so I started going with it.

I like the Rays in this series because they are a young bunch of guys playing baseball for baseball. I don\'t think they have too many players on that roster that are currently making a lot of money.

I did call the Rays in the beginning of the year and I\'m sticking to them.

I blame fantasy baseball for making me love the game of baseball again.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 09, 2008, 11:16:49 am
Big night of Baseball.

Game 1 of both League Championships.

Any Phillies fans?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 09, 2008, 11:36:19 am
Quote from: Spacey;206927
Big night of Baseball.

Game 1 of both League Championships.


Actually Boston vs Tampa is tomorrow night.

Game 1 Dice-K vs Shields
Game 2 Beckett vs Kazmir
Game 3 Lester vs Garza
Game 4 Wakefield vs Sonnanstine

not the line up I was expecting, I think Lester deserves that #1 spot.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: peaches626 on October 09, 2008, 11:39:09 am
it means lester gets game 7 most likely if it comes to that
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 09, 2008, 11:45:04 am
Quote from: Me!;206943
Quote from: Spacey;206927
Big night of Baseball.

Game 1 of both League Championships.


Actually Boston vs Tampa is tomorrow night.

Game 1 Dice-K vs Shields
Game 2 Beckett vs Kazmir
Game 3 Lester vs Garza
Game 4 Wakefield vs Sonnanstine

not the line up I was expecting, I think Lester deserves that #1 spot.


Fair enough.

I\'ll watch the Dodgers pounce on Phillies.

Did Lester pitch well at the Trop this year or better at home?

Would Lester be pitching on too short of rest if he went #1?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 09, 2008, 11:59:23 am
Quote from: peaches626;206947
it means lester gets game 7 most likely if it comes to that

^^ ah, true.  Didn\'t think of that.  Fair enough

Quote from: Spacey;206953

Did Lester pitch well at the Trop this year or better at home?

Would Lester be pitching on too short of rest if he went #1?


I\'m actually not sure about his home vs away stats, I just know he\'s our ace this year.

Too short rest?  All of Baseball has had the week off.

Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 09, 2008, 11:59:51 am
Quote from: Me!;206954
Quote from: peaches626;206947
it means lester gets game 7 most likely if it comes to that

^^ ah, true.  Didn\'t think of that.  Fair enough

Quote from: Spacey;206953

Did Lester pitch well at the Trop this year or better at home?

Would Lester be pitching on too short of rest if he went #1?


I\'m actually not sure about his home vs away stats, I just know he\'s our ace this year.

Too short rest?  All of Baseball has had the week off.


I thought I heard one of the sports show say that Boston wanted to give him time off between starts but maybe they were talking about more time off because they wanted to watch his arm and not over work it.

Lester is 3-0 vs the Rays and has never pitched at the Trop this year.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 09, 2008, 12:09:34 pm
Quote from: Spacey;206973

Lester is 3-0 vs the Rays and has never pitched at the Trop this year.


That\'s great news, but he still won\'t have pitched at "the Trop" unless it goes to game 7.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 09, 2008, 12:12:03 pm
Quote from: Me!;206987
Quote from: Spacey;206973

Lester is 3-0 vs the Rays and has never pitched at the Trop this year.


That\'s great news, but he still won\'t have pitched at "the Trop" unless it goes to game 7.


Right.

Thats is probably the factor that pushed him back to #3 this time. Win the game at Fenway first.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Spacey on October 10, 2008, 10:52:21 am
Dodgers blew it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 10, 2008, 10:02:02 pm
Jason Motha Fuckin Bay !!!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 10, 2008, 10:45:48 pm
egads this is making me tense
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on October 10, 2008, 10:53:14 pm
rays threatening!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 10, 2008, 11:03:26 pm
rays are gays
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 10, 2008, 11:11:23 pm
God I\'ve got bad timing tuning into games.  I get in my car tune to ESPN radio and Dice-K gives up his first couple hits of the game in the 7th.  But in typical Dice-K fashion works himself out of the situation.  And now the Sox are threatening once again.  This is the game that will set the pace for the series.  Let\'s go Sox!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 10, 2008, 11:24:30 pm
daisuke is the man.  sox about to take the 1-0 > sweep of the rays.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 11, 2008, 12:03:26 am
This is going to be a heck of a series.

Huge win.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 11, 2008, 12:05:32 am
redsox = most dangerous team in the postseason.  rays and their fans dont know what postseason baseball is.  chumps
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 11, 2008, 12:42:09 am
The Red Sox won in a shutout and yet I am totally disgusted by this game.  Not by the Red Sox but by Tampa Bay, the Rays, and everything that comes with it.  It is downright UNAMERICAN that the ALCS is being played in a dome in Florida.  To make matters worse, they have to cover 1/3 of the seats so they can call it a "sellout".  If Fenway Park held 200,000 people, they would still sell it out every night.  The Rays didn\'t draw more than 12,000 all year except against the Red Sox because 10,000 Red Sox fans would show up against the 7,000 Rays fans.  Now their "ballpark" is filled with a slew of goddam cowbell-ringing yahoos who weren\'t Rays fans as of 1 week ago.  Where were you all year you stupid yahoos?  

I\'m sorry, but this actually makes me yearn for the Yankees.  I wish we were playing the Yankees right now.  I obviously don\'t like the Yankees but I realize now that I have some level of respect for them as an established and respectable baseball franchise.  I will never have this respect for the Rays.  Forgive my use of the term, but playing the Rays in the ALCS in a dome in Florida is just gay.  Even though my Sox won I think this whole series is stupid to some extent because we\'re playing the stupid Rays.  Bring on the Yankees next time.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on October 11, 2008, 07:15:09 am
The playoffs are about the games played, not the people that they put in their stadiums.  The Rays were the best team in the division for virtually the whole season.  Although, I wish it were the Yanks in the ALCS right now, the Rays deserve to be there.  I find this whole line of discussion ridiculous.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 11, 2008, 07:50:42 am
Quote from: bezerker;207412
redsox = most dangerous team in the postseason.  rays and their fans dont know what postseason baseball is.  chumps

Snap judgment after just one game is that the ALCS will be a battle of whose bats wake up first. Hopefully Beckett can keep the Sox afloat today while they find their swing.

Right now, the most dangerous team in the postseason is the Phillies.

Rollins > Victorino > Utley > Howard > Burrell > Werth is just as dangerous up-and-down as Ellsbury > Pedroia > Ortiz > Youkilis > Drew > Bay. Plus, should Philly advance to the World Series, they add Pedro Feliz\'s 14 home runs as a designated hitter in the AL park.

The Phils were the one team in the NL that nobody was talking about, but they were my pick for the World Series from the start of the postseason. Shane Victorino = World Series MVP.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 11, 2008, 10:00:49 pm
home run derby at tropicana
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Klout on October 11, 2008, 10:32:28 pm
this is a sick fuckin game right now
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 12, 2008, 10:33:06 am
Obviously, a win would have been great for the Red Sox last night, but Boston still did what they had to do: take a game at the Trop. Now it\'s essentially a best-of-five series, with the next three games being played at Fenway and Jon Lester still due for two starts (if necessary) in the series. It\'s still anybody\'s series, but it\'s definitely advantage Sox right now.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 13, 2008, 06:58:04 pm
son of a bitch !

ortiz had better get his shit together QUICK

my god the sox are absolutely sucking tonight.  garza\'s got their numbers
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 13, 2008, 11:24:13 pm
The funniest/worst part is that hundreds of thousands if not millions of Sox fans in New England got out of work b/w 5:00-5:30 looking forward to booking it to the nearest bar or jumping into their car to take in the game.  And when they did, it was already over.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on October 14, 2008, 08:25:11 am
I\'ll be as happy as a pig in shit if TB and Phili are in the WS.  The Sox will be out and Manny will get what he deserves for dogging it so that he would get traded.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: skalnbyc on October 14, 2008, 02:45:59 pm
Leith was pretty happy last night:  Back-to-back Boston losses for the Patriots and Red sox.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: booztravlr on October 14, 2008, 03:01:47 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;207787
Leith was pretty happy last night:  Back-to-back Boston losses for the Patriots and Red sox.


Don\'t forget about the Red Sox loss on Saturday too.

Go Padres! (Please don\'t trade Peavy)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: skalnbyc on October 14, 2008, 03:05:47 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;207791
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;207787
Leith was pretty happy last night:  Back-to-back Boston losses for the Patriots and Red sox.


Don\'t forget about the Red Sox loss on Saturday too.

Go Padres! (Please don\'t trade Peavy)


noted.

We were discussing sports team affinities at dinner last night.  Your name definitely came up for all the random, geographically-scattered teams you are a fan of.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on October 14, 2008, 03:14:02 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;207791
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;207787
Leith was pretty happy last night:  Back-to-back Boston losses for the Patriots and Red sox.


Don\'t forget about the Red Sox loss on Saturday too.

Go Padres! (Please don\'t trade Peavy)


The bRuins also lost on saturday.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on October 14, 2008, 08:10:50 pm
2-0 Tampa after two batters.

3-0 Tampa after 3 batters (back-to-back homers)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 14, 2008, 09:14:16 pm
Quote from: Yoda;207830
2-0 Tampa after two batters.

3-0 Tampa after 3 batters (back-to-back homers)


Today\'s Red Sox stats:
Wakefield 3 IP 5ER...
Cash 1 HR...

Today\'s Yankees stats:
Jeter 10 under par
Giambi 4 over par
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on October 14, 2008, 09:30:39 pm
You got me on current play wolf...

To me, this isn\'t a Yanks/RS thing, but you made it that with your comment above... You even went as far in previous posts to wish that it were the Yanks rather than the Rays, hot un-Red Sox like...

I don\'t need the Yanks to win every year... Like most fans my age, we grew up with the shitty 80\'s and early 90\'s... But history has proven that even though we haven\'t won in 8 years, it sure won\'t be 80+ years before we win it again...

Final thought, my comments are not nearly as annoying and time consuming as your self-serving / pat myself on the back Patriot posts from last season...
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 15, 2008, 08:50:03 pm
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2035/qa9xcsqzpn8.jpg)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 16, 2008, 09:22:21 pm
OK look, I can admit the Rays are way better than the Red Sox.  I can accept that the Rays deserve to win.  They have a very good team that is hot, while the Red Sox took on more injuries in the last two weeks of the season than any team I can think of.  Their 3rd baseman and World Series MVP emeritus goes down.  The right fielder barely crawls back to play in the playoffs after sitting out a month.  Their BEST PITCHER goes down.  Their best power hitter is playing obviously hurt and their best overall hitter quit and is now on the Dodgers.  The September/October 2008 Red Sox just are not a championship team.  Fine.  It happens.  I can deal with 2 championships in 5 years.

But what I can\'t believe is getting destroyed three nights in a row in Fenway Park.  I am in shock.  I LOVED the Sox tonight.  I bought into Joe Maddon overthinking things with starting Kazmir and I never thought that the defending champs would allow themselves to by destroyed again in what must surely be the quietest 3 night run of baseball Fenway history.  (I mean, if the Sox get killed in a regular season game nobody goes catatonic, everyonr just drinks more and forgets about it and ends up loud and rowdy and the place doesn\'t feel like a morgue like it has the last 3 nights.)  I can\'t get that upset at the Sox for losing a series to what is clearly a better team right now.  But getting rocked at home like this is downright embarassing.  I\'m just glad I didn\'t go to any of these games.  My god.  

Well, maybe they\'ll come back tonight and prove me wrong, but this is what I\'m feeling right now as I watch.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 16, 2008, 11:41:10 pm
don\'t look now.......

Bottom of the 8th 7-6.

OH SHIT!!!!

Tie ball-game.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 17, 2008, 12:00:17 am
Sox turn the double play to end the top of the 9th with 2 on and 1 out at the stroke of midnight.  Love it.  Pedroia>Ortiz>Yook bottom 9 I can\'t see the Sox NOT scoring this inning.

Cowabunga.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 17, 2008, 12:13:58 am
still alive....
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 17, 2008, 12:14:36 am
See you for game 6!!!!!!!  YOWZA!  Beckett and Lester lined up for game 6 and 7....oh baseball gods, somehow get Josh Beckett thruogh this game!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 17, 2008, 01:46:52 am
How do they keep pulling shit like this off?

Granted, I think they\'re one and done back in Tampa, but at least they give their fans some incredible shit like this year after year in the post-season. Unreal. I fucking HATE the Cubs right now. Seriously, hate.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 17, 2008, 04:14:00 am
i cant believe i stopped watching early :no:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: SlimPickens on October 17, 2008, 07:22:38 am
Quote from: bezerker;208262
i cant believe i stopped watching early :no:


OOoooooo sorry chip!  I\'m not even a sox fan and I kept watchin\'.

Textbook choke.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on October 17, 2008, 09:01:26 am
I can\'t believe I had to get up at 3a and missed almost the whole game. :banghead:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on October 17, 2008, 09:02:56 am
Quote from: bezerker;208262
i cant believe i stopped watching early :no:


I stopped watching in the 5th
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Vassillios on October 17, 2008, 09:34:55 am
Quote from: tyzack;208273
Quote from: bezerker;208262
i cant believe i stopped watching early :no:


I stopped watching in the 5th


7th for me. What the hell.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 17, 2008, 12:15:16 pm
I didn\'t start watching until the 7th.. was shackled by school again until late, got off the train saw it was 7-4, rode my bike home from the station, walked in saw 7-6, ate some hummus/ramen/sugar cookies watched another ridiculous fenway scene with an 8-7 vic.

Only thing that was annoying was the looong interview session after the game on the field. They\'re down 3-2, maybe a quick word with Drew would be alright but the tone and length was way too celebratory. Get over it and move on to Tampa. TV + sports as been getting on my nerves more and more lately. Most announcers sound like fuckheads.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 17, 2008, 02:02:22 pm
This win was the Baseball Gods doing one of two things:

1. Giving us a sign that the Red Sox are going to win it all

2. Punishing all of the fans who gave up on last night\'s game by having the Red Sox mount an historic comeback, thus ensuring that we watch every out of the team\'s upcoming Game 6 defeat

I hope for the former and fear the latter.

Also, I\'ve seen written a few places that J.D. Drew\'s game-winner (or at least, part of the at-bat) took place five years TO THE MINUTE (12:16 a.m.) after the Aaron Boone walk-0ff.

I suppose that would mean more, in a cosmic sense, if the Red Sox hadn\'t won two World Series in the meantime, but it\'s still pretty cool.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 18, 2008, 08:05:47 pm
why the fuck is the game not being broadcasted.  tbs pre game was just on not they got some stupid citcom on.  fucking bullshit
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 18, 2008, 08:58:01 pm
Steve Harvey? WTF?

Also...

Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bdfreetuna on October 18, 2008, 09:33:36 pm
TBS = quality :\\
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 18, 2008, 09:36:02 pm
sweet delay to get the "injured" umpire from behind the plate just so he can be an on field umpire.  nannies
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 18, 2008, 10:31:39 pm
Boston bats are alive again!!  Nice first hit of the series Teck. :)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 18, 2008, 10:38:16 pm
Thank you Jason Bartlett!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 18, 2008, 11:54:07 pm
took a while for me to believe/ realize that masterson ain\'t fuckin around.  good work tonight buddy

tied series folks.  lets go sox !!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on October 18, 2008, 11:54:55 pm
Bring on Game 7!!

Let\'s go Sox!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 18, 2008, 11:58:48 pm
:redban::redban::redban::redban::redban: :banboogy2::disban::banwpoa::bandown::banhair: :banjump::bansplit::banflip::banmango: :redban::redban::redban::redban::redban:
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 19, 2008, 12:56:09 am
dancin bananas/limes are ballin

sidenote :   New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain has been arrested for allegedly driving under the influence, speeding and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle.

Deborah Collins is a spokeswoman for the Nebraska State Patrol.

She says Chamberlain was stopped for speeding on U.S. 77 near his hometown of Lincoln at about 1 a.m. on Saturday.

Collins says Chamberlain was taken to the Cornhusker Place Detox in Lincoln, which she says is the normal protocol.



what a dangle doo.  been there beat that
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 19, 2008, 02:34:06 am
Actual conversation that took place b/w me and my buddies as Varitek stepped to the plate before hitting the game winning home run:

Me:  Man, we\'d be better off if we had the pitcher hitting.  Remember when Dice-K got that huge RBI hit in Game 3 of the World Series last year?

Buddy 1: You know, I think you can have the DH substitute for anyone in the lineup.

Buddy 2: So wait, you could have the pitcher in the batting lineup and use the DH in place of any position player?

Buddy 1: I think so.  If your pitcher is a better hitter than one of the other fielders, for example the catcher, then you could have the pitcher in the batting lineup and have the DH bat instead of the catcher.

Me: Wow, I never thought of that.  I wonder if anyone ever...

All:  WHOA!  HOME RUN TEK!  WOW! ......
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on October 19, 2008, 02:35:24 am
on to 7!!!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 19, 2008, 07:23:48 am
Quote from: Wolfman;208452
Actual conversation that took place b/w me and my buddies as Varitek stepped to the plate before hitting the game winning home run:

Me:  Man, we\'d be better off if we had the pitcher hitting.  Remember when Dice-K got that huge RBI hit in Game 3 of the World Series last year?

Buddy 1: You know, I think you can have the DH substitute for anyone in the lineup.

Buddy 2: So wait, you could have the pitcher in the batting lineup and use the DH in place of any position player?

Buddy 1: I think so.  If your pitcher is a better hitter than one of the other fielders, for example the catcher, then you could have the pitcher in the batting lineup and have the DH bat instead of the catcher.

Me: Wow, I never thought of that.  I wonder if anyone ever...

All:  WHOA!  HOME RUN TEK!  WOW! ......


Buddy #1 is correct, the designated hitter can hit for anyone in the lineup. Back when Mariners\' closer J.J. Putz was at Michigan as a catcher, they used to pinch-hit for him and let the pitcher bat.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 19, 2008, 12:43:08 pm
Yeah, it was hilarious that as we were semi-seriously considering whether we would be better off having the pitchers hit and the DH bat for Varitek, he hits the GWHR.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 19, 2008, 08:35:05 pm
I\'m almost too nervous to watch. I\'m wondering why that is. Why is this game getting to me?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 19, 2008, 08:43:47 pm
im lovin it.  hang in there !
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: jocelyn on October 19, 2008, 11:01:18 pm
Damn. Pedroia doesn\'t miss fastballs like that one very often.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on October 19, 2008, 11:28:29 pm
Quote from: bezerker;208486
im lovin it.  hang in there !
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 19, 2008, 11:38:56 pm
Fuck  !

i hate you spacey
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on October 19, 2008, 11:39:52 pm
fuck.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 19, 2008, 11:44:58 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;208495
Damn. Pedroia doesn\'t miss fastballs like that one very often.

Pedroia definitely did his part for the Sox, but not hitting pitches like that is precisely how to lose a series.

The Rays were the better team, and they definitely deserved to win this series. I\'m not saying it doesn\'t sting, but at least the Red Sox made it respectable.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: TeddyT on October 19, 2008, 11:49:06 pm
Big Papi sucked all season. He sucked all of the postseason (except for the 3-run homer in game 5). Man did he suck big time in this game 7.  Hopefully that wrist is 100% next season and hopefully he won\'t suck as much.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 19, 2008, 11:56:29 pm
wrist and knee. there are things wrong with the papster. big reason why the sox got probably less than 20 runs the whole series.  rough night
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Wolfman on October 20, 2008, 12:20:02 am
That 8th inning really hurt.  Cora and Crisp did the unthinkable and BOTH got on base to start the inning, down 2, in front of Pedroia>Ortiz>Youkilis>Drew and NONE of those 4 guys got a hit.  Ugh!

At least we made them earn it and made it entertaining.  Letting them walk over us in games 3-5 at Fenway would have been unforgivable.  Losing sucks but at least they generated some entertainment value in games 5-7.  Nothing cheap happened the whole series either.   The games played out properly, there were no bad calls or stupid bounces, and thus the better team won.  You can\'t play with fire every time the way the Sox have done.  Sooner or later you\'re going to lose one of these series trailing 3-1 or 3-0.  

The Rays and Sox will be going at it for quite a while here.  (Unlss the Rays go with a Marlins-style firesale of the whole team, which I don\'t forsee.)  They both have so much young homegrown talent carrying their teams.  The only team in baseball with more homegrown talent contribution than the Sox is the Rays.  I\'m looking forward to continuing the current run with Youkilis, Pedroia, Lowrie, Ortiz, Varitek, Ellsbury, Lester, Delcarmen, Masterson, Buchholz, and Papelbon for a long time.  I can\'t believe that it\'s this part of the season and the Yankees really are so forgotten at this point.  They\'re so far behind in terms of bringing up talent and their big-free-agent model is so outdated that I don\'t think we\'re going to hear from them for at least 5 years while the Sox and Rays carry the AL East.  Weird.      

I am curious to see some TV ratings from Tampa Bay for tonight.  I bet that the Buccaneers\' Sunday night football game was a bigger draw than the Rays playing game 7 of the ALCS.  I know the concept is crazy to any Boston/NY fan, but the Rays are to Tampa what Major League Soccer is to Boston or New York.

At least I can catch up on some sleep this week.  Congratulations to all you Rays fans!  (Crickets.)  Well, everyone have a great time watching the Phillies-Rays World Series! (Crickets.)  Enjoy the rest of this thread! (Crickets.)  New England is Cassel Country now! (Muffled groans.)  Time to end this post! (Hearty applause.)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 20, 2008, 12:27:27 am
you\'re fuckin nuts wolf.  how long did it take to type that post ?   minute forty five and one half seconds?  will def. be a fun next few years.  hopefully schilling can do something besides snag a paycheck next season

actually he isnt even signed for next year is he
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Yoda on October 20, 2008, 09:01:40 am
The Yanks may have fizzled out this year, but I wouldn\'t count them out for the next 5 years.  The line-up could seriously change before the start of next season.  

Go Rays!
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Vassillios on October 20, 2008, 10:56:35 am
Quote from: Wolfman;208510
I\'m looking forward to continuing the current run with Youkilis, Pedroia, Lowrie, Ortiz, Varitek, Ellsbury, Lester, Delcarmen, Masterson, Buchholz, and Papelbon for a long time.


you think he\'ll be back? he really needs to re-learn how to hit in order for the sox to want him.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 20, 2008, 10:57:41 am
While trying to sleep, with images of David Price blowing the Red Sox away 10 times a year for the next five years dancing in my head, I came to the following conclusion: I’m pretty much done with being a Red Sox fan. It has way too much of a negative connotation. Bill Simmons, Curt Schilling (who has pretty much been just an obnoxious fan with a bigger paycheck in recent years) and every other hack who decided to write a book in November of 2004 have ruined it for me. Your average Red Sox fan is pretty much a 1996-2003 Yankee fan with a “B” on his cap instead of an “NY”.

After observing the out-of-proportion joy exhibited by non-Red Sox fans since last night’s loss, I have decided the cheering for the Red Sox is now like cheering for the dealer in a game of blackjack. I can’t force myself to stop rooting for the Red Sox, because all that the players have done to merit this reaction is win two World Series championships in the past five years, but I’m tired of being a Red Sox fan. I know that I\'m not the type of fan that makes people hate the Red Sox (read Wolfman\'s posts about the Patriots in last season\'s NFL thread if you don\'t know what type of fan I\'m talking about), but I don\'t like being associated with Simmons et al. and dealing with the ensuing visceral reaction from every other baseball fan in America.

And, as far as Yankee fans are concerned, it puzzles me to watch them cheer so adamantly for the Rays over the Red Sox. I understand that the Rays winning is great for baseball, as I too want to see the Rays win as a "baseball fan", but it’s being taken to a dangerous extreme by Yankee fans. The Red Sox winning would be par from the course, whereas the Rays winning is just miring the Yanks deeper in the ranks of third place in the AL East. I would be cheering for the Rays to beat the Yankees too, but I wouldn\'t be gloating as if Tampa Bay has been my favorite team for the past decade. To turn this into a college football analogy (because, why not), it would be like Florida fans going crazy that LSU beats Georgia in the SEC Championship.

Red Sox-Yankees will ALWAYS be a rivalry- even if it’s just in the way that Raiders-Broncos is still technically a rivalry- but as it stands right now, the Yankees are on the outside looking in on the best rivalry in baseball: Red Sox-Rays.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: tyzack on October 20, 2008, 11:50:30 am
Quote from: Wolfman;208510

At least I can catch up on some sleep this week.  Congratulations to all you Rays fans!  (Crickets.)  Well, everyone have a great time watching the Phillies-Rays World Series! (Crickets.)  Enjoy the rest of this thread! (Crickets.)  New England is Cassel Country now! (Muffled groans.)  Time to end this post! (Hearty applause.)


The Bruin\'s home opener is tonight, then a game tomorrow against Buffalow, then Toronto on Thursday and Atlanta on Saturday.

What is this sleep thing?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 20, 2008, 11:52:32 am
^^^I don\'t really get it man. First of all there are tons of Boston fans here in Chicago that don\'t live and die with every pitch/get off on Yankee losses--that\'s obviously an east coast culture.  Second of all, your team starts winning, and winning in dramatic fashion, year after year and you\'re just going to quit being a part of the goods?

Dude, try living in Chicago as a Cub fan. The same bullshit goes on between Cubs and White Sox fans, maybe not to the same extent, but shit gets ugly and ridiculous often. I\'m personally not one to gloat when the Sox lose here, I enjoy both teams successes. On top of it I find that the collective Cub fan community could be the WORST of any. I hate going to Wrigley Field, especially if it\'s a important game. I hate all the retarded drunk assholes that forget about the game, I hate the fucking "Go Cubs Go" song when we win, I hate all the kool-aid drinkers that really do still think next year is our year, I hate the 7th inning stretch sing along, I hate Wrigleyville bars stocked with raging meatheads and pink pin-striped frat girls, I hate Cubs talk radio. Fuck it, the culture around the Cubs sucks now. All of the magic I felt as a kid is gone. As much as I want to, I will never be able to realistically turn my back on this team. If I ever see them win a championship I might seriously shed some tears. But as far as the grand culture goes I have all but removed myself from it. I love baseball, I love the Cubs, and that\'s where my focus lies. I have consciously faded out all of the bullshit surrounding Cub-nation and feel better off because of it.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on October 20, 2008, 12:10:52 pm
Quote from: Gordo;208543
I love baseball, I love the Cubs, and that\'s where my focus lies. I have consciously faded out all of the bullshit surrounding Cub-nation and feel better off because of it.

Replace "Cubs" with "Red Sox", and that\'s pretty much what I\'m getting at. Like I said, I can\'t stop rooting for the Red Sox, I just want to do it without being considered a "Red Sox fan", as the definition currently stands.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 20, 2008, 12:44:05 pm
I gotchya. Well then, I agree with your position. I disassociate myself from the common Cub fan by being very quiet in my desperate desire for post-season victories.

I just re-read your post and you expressed yourself articulately explaining exactly what I questioned you on. I always have to remind myself to not speed read through long posts, for reasons like this.
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on October 22, 2008, 08:19:15 pm
Rays in 7
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Gordo on October 22, 2008, 08:49:33 pm
Rays in 6
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: bezerker on October 23, 2008, 12:25:50 am
charlie manuel is one old MOTHA FUCKA (good fah him)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on November 06, 2008, 07:44:17 pm
American League- Gold Glove
P, Mike Mussina, NYY
C, Joe Mauer, MIN
1B, Carlos Pena, TB
2B, Dustin Pedroia, BOS :)
3B, Adrian Beltre, SEA
SS, Michael Young, TEX
OF, Torii Hunter, LAA
OF, Grady Sizemore, CLE
OF, Ichiro Suzuki, SEA
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: Me! on November 19, 2008, 11:16:03 am
Dustin Pedroia wins American League MVP.

(by a landslide)

well deserved. :)
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: ds673488 on November 19, 2008, 11:27:51 am
wheres the headie 2008-2009 basketball threads?
Title: The 2008 Major League Baseball Thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on November 19, 2008, 12:14:27 pm
looks like coco is going to the royals
Title: Billy Corgan: Eddie Vedder Exclusively to Blame for Cubs’ Crappy Season
Post by: SlimPickens on November 27, 2008, 09:48:39 pm
Onstage in Chicago this week, Smashing Pumpkins front man Billy Corgan called out Pearl Jam\'s Eddie Vedder for, of all things, the Cubs\' disappointing season. See, a few months ago Vedder wrote a song about the Cubs called "All the Way," and Corgan, a die-hard fan, thinks he jinxed them. (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/11/21/images/20081121_vedder_146x97.jpg)"If the Cubs did have a chance this last year that just passed, fuckin’ Eddie Vedder killed that shit dead. Last I checked Eddie ain’t living here, okay? Eddie ain’t living here to write a song about my fuckin’ team." We guess this is what alt-rock feuds look like when everyone\'s in their forties.