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Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: antbach on October 02, 2007, 06:06:26 pm
Now taking bets on the over/under of pages this thread gets to this season. Current line is 3.5. I\'m taking the under.

GO BRUINS!

Edited to change thread title, just in case people forgot what the NHL is :)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on October 02, 2007, 06:35:31 pm
I can\'t wait for yet another disappointing bruins season.....hopefully the new goaltending will give them some help on defense, they just gotta score some goals this year
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Spacey on October 02, 2007, 08:03:13 pm
What is this "Hockey" sport you speak of?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Gfunk on October 02, 2007, 08:05:37 pm
any sport with a puck \'sgot to be \'bout the best
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Spacey on October 02, 2007, 08:11:08 pm
Quote from: Gfunk;161685
any sport with a puck \'sgot to be \'bout the best


is this english or hockey talk?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on October 03, 2007, 02:00:54 pm
uuuuuh...Let\'s Go Rangers?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on October 03, 2007, 02:41:48 pm
looking forward to the season.

There is a double header on Versus tonight starting at 7 or 7:30

Rangers kick off the season tomorrow at MSG.

what do you guys think of Downie\'s suspension ?

Also recently found this site. Pretty cool

hockeybuzz.com
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on October 03, 2007, 02:56:18 pm
Looking forward to Gomez sustaining a season ending injury for signing with the rangers.:asskicked
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on October 03, 2007, 03:09:35 pm
Quote from: Yoda;162015
Looking forward to Gomez sustaining a season ending injury for signing with the rangers.:asskicked


can you really blame the guy ? who wants to play in Newark, yuck!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on October 03, 2007, 03:20:42 pm
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Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on October 03, 2007, 03:21:45 pm
Look - I\'m not happy about the new arena either.  They\'re not providing parking in garage or lot, with no plans of building on either.  And they\'re basically forcing you to take public transportation to get to the games, but they\'re still my team and it\'s better than them moving to Tennessee.  

I could respect Gomez if he went to any other team in the league (since we basically let him go), but to sign with the Rangers - it\'s a slap in the face.  He\'ll go down in history as a traitor like Drive, McLean (don\'t trust him as an assistant coach either) and Holik before him.  

And again, lets not turn this into an anti Jersey thing.  The last time I checked, CT hasn\'t had a professional hockey team since the hartford failures left town.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on October 03, 2007, 03:35:03 pm
Quote from: Yoda;162032
The last time I checked, CT hasn\'t had a professional hockey team since the hartford failures left town.


heeeeeey...We shall get one back.  Mark my words.  The Whale lives on....

I am kind of sad that this thread isn\'t called "Hockey???".
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: davepeck on October 03, 2007, 04:53:49 pm
wait... there\'s no parking at the prudential? that\'s not good... going to UFC there in november.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on October 03, 2007, 05:06:55 pm
Dave -
There is some parking lots, but I don\'t think it\'s enough for a full arena.  Based on what I\'ve heard, there will be a parking garage, but they have no idea when it will be completed.  I actually called and asked that question for Devils games and they told me they had no idea when it will be completed.  Your best bet is to take Metro North or Amtrack to Penn Station and it within walking distance from there.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on October 03, 2007, 07:47:17 pm
Quote from: Yoda;162032
Look - I\'m not happy about the new arena either.  They\'re not providing parking in garage or lot, with no plans of building on either.  And they\'re basically forcing you to take public transportation to get to the games, but they\'re still my team and it\'s better than them moving to Tennessee.  

I could respect Gomez if he went to any other team in the league (since we basically let him go), but to sign with the Rangers - it\'s a slap in the face.  He\'ll go down in history as a traitor like Drive, McLean (don\'t trust him as an assistant coach either) and Holik before him.  

And again, lets not turn this into an anti Jersey thing.  The last time I checked, CT hasn\'t had a professional hockey team since the hartford failures left town.


seeing as this was / is a hockey thread i thought we could talk smack. I was just doing a little NY trash talking. My heart is with the Bruins but unfortunately being down in NY for so long and the other half is a rabid rangers fan I usually watch the rangers. Bruins haven\'t given me much to cheer about in recent years. This season isn\'t looking much better
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Spacey on October 03, 2007, 07:53:42 pm
Who looks like the premier team this year in Hockey?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on October 03, 2007, 07:54:01 pm
I got ya.  I\'m just giving it back.  The rangers still suck though.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on October 05, 2007, 12:02:37 pm
Rangers looked really good early then quickly went back to being lazy. Although I have to give credit to Florida they were playing really good hockey for the first half of the 1st and the entire 2nd. Then the rangers exploded with offense. Kind of a scary team in a way. If they can get past being lazy and play tough for the full 60 they will be a pretty nasty team. The offensive fire power is kind of silly

It reminds me of the kind of teams we used to see pre-expansion.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on October 05, 2007, 01:37:23 pm
Quote from: Spacey;162142
Who looks like the premier team this year in Hockey?


TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/) says Detriot in the West and the Rangers in the East.

Based on what I have seen so far, I would tend to agree. However, there is still about a third of the leauge that hasn\'t played.

The Rangers, yes, looked very good last night, but they were playing Florida. The Leafs had two "Good Losses" against the senators.

As for which team I cheer for; first and formost, the Bruins. However, it is well known that they will not do very well this year, so after then I cheer for the Rangers and the Leafs, then any other Canadian team.

Seriously, folks, the last 3 Stanley Cups have been won by cities in which there is no natural ice. Does anyone else see something wrong with that?

On the Whalers...I remember being at the Meadows in \'06. On my way into the venu, I passed a car with a life-size replica of the Stanley Cup on the roof and the banner "Hartford Whalers, 2006 Stanley Cup Champions."

I cheered.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on October 29, 2007, 10:43:59 am
Hot topic on TSN of late has been the crack down/ non crack down on head shots.

This has resurfaced in the wake of the hit on Bergergon this weekend. Personally, I am for hard hitting. Favourite current Bruin though he may be, Bergergon should have protected himself - one hand on the glass, head not fully down - against the possibility of a hit which he should have known was coming. After the game Jones was very apologetic and obivously did not mean to hurt Patrice as much as he did....there have been a number of these hits recently...thoughts?

PS: WTF has happened (or not happened) to the Rangers?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on October 29, 2007, 10:59:52 am
Quote from: tyzack;166308
Hot topic on TSN of late has been the crack down/ non crack down on head shots.

This has resurfaced in the wake of the hit on Bergergon this weekend. Personally, I am for hard hitting. Favourite current Bruin though he may be, Bergergon should have protected himself - one hand on the glass, head not fully down - against the possibility of a hit which he should have known was coming. After the game Jones was very apologetic and obivously did not mean to hurt Patrice as much as he did....there have been a number of these hits recently...thoughts?

PS: WTF has happened (or not happened) to the Rangers?


It looks like the same crap as last year. They cannot or will not play a full 60 minutes. I keep trying to come up with reasons and always come back to coaching. They make a lot of bad defensive zone decisions with the puck, and the biggest reason is they get cute with the puck.  The young guys are willing to grind it out in the corners but the older vets just don\'t do it and that kills the offense. They do these limp dick passes that get picked off and turned the other way all the time.

And the biggest reason is that they need a really good defenseman. They have Staal but he is a rookie but they do not have any high caliber defense. They are stocked with forwards so I am hoping they try to unload some for a decent defenseman but if things keep up they should fire Renney. I don\'t think they should wait very long to can his ass. He has all the talent in the world and cannot make them win.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on October 30, 2007, 12:13:41 pm
Holy shit! The Rangers won a fuckin\' game and had an offensive explosion to the tune of three goals.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Wolfman on November 01, 2007, 04:52:52 pm
Going to Bruins v Canadiens next week...will have a full in-depth postgame review.  If the Bruins can somehow rise from the ashes Boston will complete the first ever 4-sport city sweep in American sport history.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on November 12, 2007, 09:39:02 pm
2007 Hockey Hall of Fame:

Mark Messier, Ron Francis, Al MacInnis, Scott Stevens and Jim Gregory

Ron Francis was a long-time Whaler, for all you Hartford cats.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: jocelyn on November 12, 2007, 10:11:40 pm
Quote from: Spacey;161692
Quote from: Gfunk;161685
any sport with a puck \'sgot to be \'bout the best


is this english or hockey talk?


Zappa, Honey Don\'t You Want a Man Like Me.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on December 04, 2007, 04:44:19 pm
Anyone still watching this sport?

Come on, there has to be a few breakfast/hockey fans out there?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on December 04, 2007, 04:52:06 pm
Yup.  I watch the Devils when I can.  They seem to be finally getting their act together.  

I\'m not too happy about the new arena though.  I live about 10 minutes from the old Brendan Byrne Arena and refuse to concede to the fact that I have to take a train to get to the game.  From my house, you either drive into Newark where there is no parking or you take a train to Secaucus where you can catch a transfer to Penn Station and walk a few blocks to get to the arena.  I\'ll be watching it from hom, especially since the baby is coming in less than a month.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on December 04, 2007, 04:56:01 pm
Quote from: Yoda;171404
Yup.  I watch the Devils when I can.  They seem to be finally getting their act together.  

I\'m not too happy about the new arena though.  I live about 10 minutes from the old Brendan Byrne Arena and refuse to concede to the fact that I have to take a train to get to the game.  From my house, you either drive into Newark where there is no parking or you take a train to Secaucus where you can catch a transfer to Penn Station and walk a few blocks to get to the arena.  I\'ll be watching it from hom, especially since the baby is coming in less than a month.


Congrats on the baby, even if you\'re a Devils fan.

Go Flyers!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on December 04, 2007, 05:04:01 pm
Thanks.  It could be worse - I could be a Rangers fan.  I love watching Ranger fans, like my father, cringe every time we\'re at a Yankee game and they pipe Kate Smith\'s God Bless America through the PA; it brings him back to the days when she used to sing that national anthem for Phili.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on December 04, 2007, 05:07:05 pm
God. I hate the Rangers more than their friends though. That franchise has tried for the past ten years to buy a championship but all they do is overpay people out of their prime by about 5 years.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on December 04, 2007, 07:57:34 pm
Quote from: Inner_Score;171411
God. I hate the Rangers more than their friends though. That franchise has tried for the past ten years to buy a championship but all they do is overpay people out of their prime by about 5 years.


this is so not true. many of the new blood on the team has been groomed in the AHL and juniors. Sure they picked up some high priced talent in the off season but if you must be reminded there is a salary cap in the NHL and all the teams have to play by the same rules. so they were able in the last few years to free up a good amount of room in their cap which isn\'t possible if as you say they have been trying to "buy the cup for the past 10 years"

They added talent to try to take it to the next level, just because your team didn\'t want to spend $ and be competitive is not the fault of the rangers. and look where it got them, basically no where. their team is so so. I watch all their games, the GF is a HUGE rangers fan.

staal - draft pick
calahan - draft pick
orr - minors
Holwig - minors
dubinsky - draft pick

I\'m a Bruins fan by the way

The 1 thing that everyone can like about the rangers is they have a bunch of US born players, probably more than any other team.
Gomez (AK)                                      
Dubinsky (AK)
Drury (CT)
Holwig (CA)
Ryan Callahan (NY)
Mara (NJ)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on December 04, 2007, 08:03:45 pm
I should have been more specific and  said in the past. But right now, you\'re right. They did groom well.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on December 04, 2007, 08:21:35 pm
Quote from: Inner_Score;171463
I should have been more specific and  said in the past. But right now, you\'re right. They did groom well.


you are absolutely correct about them bringing high priced talent that generally underperforms. This year is like that. I think they have too many players playing a european style and no one wants to go in to the corners and dig and grind. when they do it they play really well but getting 60 minutes out of them is tough it seems
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on December 04, 2007, 09:12:25 pm
Also, Jagr will be traded either this year or in the off-season.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on December 10, 2007, 04:34:51 pm
As long as the team that wins the cup this year comes from a city that has naturally freezing water during the winter, I\'ll be happy.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on January 01, 2008, 03:37:06 pm
Is anyone else checking out this really cool game on NBC?  They are playing old school hockey outdoors.  Penquins vs. Sabres.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 02, 2008, 08:20:58 am
That game ruled, I was cheering for Buffalow, though.

I thought that Miller had successfully poke-checked the puck away from Crosby. Oh well, you can\'t win \'em all.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on January 02, 2008, 09:05:02 am
I watched part of it, but unfortunately, it was only 1/4 of my viewing capacity, what with 3 other bowl games on at the same time.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 02, 2008, 09:19:30 am
Quote from: Yoda;175084
I watched part of it, but unfortunately, it was only 1/4 of my viewing capacity, what with 3 other bowl games on at the same time.


I agree. I switched between it and the Michigan game until 2 minutes left in the 3rd, then watched the over time and shoot out in their entirety. Timing was perfect as I then tuned back to see Llyod win his final game.

Also, I have to say, NBC has to invest in some announcers with at slight to moderate Canadian accents. Hockey just isn\'t hockey when eveyone talks in proper American English.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on January 02, 2008, 11:05:21 am
I thought the outdoor game was a lot of fun.

The only slight drawback was the need to fix the ice conditions but wasn\'t that big of a deal considering.

Would have been cool to have gone to the utica show and then to the hockey game
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 02, 2008, 11:16:20 am
This post has been proven by later posts to be stupid.

Pretend it was about why birds nests in trees.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: FrankZappa on January 02, 2008, 11:29:27 am
Quote from: kindm\'s;175093
Would have been cool to have gone to the utica show and then to the hockey game
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: antbach on January 02, 2008, 08:14:16 pm
The NHL needs to do one of these every year. I watched the entire game, and then read pretty much every single article/analysis of the event that was on Yahoo! ESPN, and nhl.com. The whole thing was more about the experience, not just the game, though it is pretty awesome watching professional hockey players play while it is snowing, made me remember the days of playing on some pond in North Haven when I was 10ish (and makes it all but certain that I will dust off my skates and gloves this winter and get back on a pond and just skate around with a puck). Listening to Boomer Essaison (sp?) this morning talking about how the atmosphere and crowd noise was just like a football game, and reading fan responses from those who sat 3 rows from the top, I will definitely attend one of these events the next time it is within reasonable travel distance away and at a football stadium (rumor is Rangers/Islanders or Rangers/Devils at Yankee Stadium, and well, no tailgating with pick-up street hockey games in the Bronx puts a damper on the event); my preference would be Bruins/Rangers (original six teams) at Gillette, and I will without a doubt put out $200 for a ticket. And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on January 02, 2008, 08:23:06 pm
Quote from: antbach;175147
And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I liked the old school jerseys too.   I also agree on the Rangers/Bruins match-up.   I imagine tickets for that though would be outrageous...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on January 02, 2008, 09:56:42 pm
I would love for the Devils to bring back the Christmas colors!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on January 02, 2008, 10:41:49 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;175150
Quote from: antbach;175147
And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I liked the old school jerseys too.   I also agree on the Rangers/Bruins match-up.   I imagine tickets for that though would be outrageous...




im goin to the game saturday in boston.
<<< stoked.
GO STRANGERS!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 03, 2008, 10:25:39 am
Quote from: antbach;175147

The NHL needs to do one of these every year.

(rumor is Rangers/Islanders or Rangers/Devils at Yankee Stadium, and well, no tailgating with pick-up street hockey games in the Bronx puts a damper on the event);

 my preference would be Bruins/Rangers (original six teams) at Gillette, and I will without a doubt put out $200 for a ticket.

 And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I agree on all points. I hate the new(er) Buffalow jerseys that don\'t have a sabre on them...


Quote
TSN normally has good/better coverage of the NHL than ESPN, they even routinely give it front-page status. (http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/dreger/?id=226285)
Sources say Toronto will make an official pitch when the time is right with Montreal also considered to be a choice destination among the Canadian teams expected to show interest.

Rogers Centre in Toronto may seem like the obvious venue, but the fact Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment also operates BMO Field leads some to believe the Maple Leafs may push in that direction to avoid losing the full financial windfall that comes with every Toronto home game.

Sources say Leafs executives discussed revisiting the idea of hosting this event on Wednesday.

The venue is a concern to the National Hockey League both in size and cost of any necessary reconfiguration, so whether it\'s Toronto, or any other city, venue viability is high on the list of criteria.

Yankee Stadium in New York remains an attractive target as well with sources saying the Islanders and Rangers have had several conversations about the potential of playing at the famed ballpark before it closes.

The Islanders are believed to be pushing hard to bring this game to reality, leading the way in multiple discussions with both the Yankees and the NHL.  However, the competition for both the game and a matchup with the Rangers is said to be fierce.

 


Also, everything I have been reading and hearing (mainly from TSN) is that the NHL is really thinking that this was a success and is investigating the possibility of doing it again. The biggest hurdle is preparing the venue for the event.

What condition would the field at Gillete (or the Gaints Statuim) be on the Sunday after New Years for football?

I also don\'t think that they would put it in a venue that might not sell out. I am not sure that they could sell out Gillete Staduim when the Bruins struggle to sell out the Fleetcentre (they have done so not more than 6 times this year).

Last year’s Stanley Cup Finals only averaged a 1.2 on Neilson ratings, this game came in at 2.6

Now, NBC had an easy market - they were really only going against Michigan/Florida - on a day that people expect to sit around and watch sports, and that the Ducks/Sens match up wasn\'t very popular anyway, but hopefully this will be a sign of things to come.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on January 03, 2008, 02:08:25 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;175159
Quote from: SkyePrizm;175150
Quote from: antbach;175147
And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I liked the old school jerseys too.   I also agree on the Rangers/Bruins match-up.   I imagine tickets for that though would be outrageous...




im goin to the game saturday in boston.
<<< stoked.
GO STRANGERS!


I\'m pretty sure the B\'s are playing the devils on sat. and the rangers game is in a couple weeks.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 03, 2008, 02:15:05 pm
Quote from: weekapaug19;175195
Quote from: freddiewaht;175159
Quote from: SkyePrizm;175150
Quote from: antbach;175147
And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I liked the old school jerseys too.   I also agree on the Rangers/Bruins match-up.   I imagine tickets for that though would be outrageous...




im goin to the game saturday in boston.
<<< stoked.
GO STRANGERS!


I\'m pretty sure the B\'s are playing the devils on sat. and the rangers game is in a couple weeks.


I want to go to a game that is sold out with all Bruins fans.
Last year I went to a Habs/Bs game that was 1/6 vs 5/6 fans and earlier this year I went to a rangers/bruins that was 1/3 vs 2/3rd

Or maybe not all, but enough so that the people there for the other team are a noticable minority, not enough to have you thinking, as you are walking around paying way too much for beer "wow, there are alot of xxx" fans here.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on January 03, 2008, 02:23:13 pm
They might be able to sell out a bruins/rangers or bruins/canadians game.  Even though they rarely sell out now, playing in a place so big they could easily drop the ticket prices a lot.  Since no seats are on ice level, I wouldn\'t expect a ticket to be higher than $50.  Add lower ticket prices into the mix (which they should do now to attract more fans, the cheaper seats almost always sell out) + tailgating and you can probably fill up the place.

Quote from: tyzack;175196
Quote from: weekapaug19;175195
Quote from: freddiewaht;175159
Quote from: SkyePrizm;175150
Quote from: antbach;175147
And for the record, both the Penguins and Sabres need to go back to those throwback jerseys, especially Buffalo (though I am biased because those were the same base style we used in youth hockey).


I liked the old school jerseys too.   I also agree on the Rangers/Bruins match-up.   I imagine tickets for that though would be outrageous...




im goin to the game saturday in boston.
<<< stoked.
GO STRANGERS!


I\'m pretty sure the B\'s are playing the devils on sat. and the rangers game is in a couple weeks.


I want to go to a game that is sold out with all Bruins fans.
Last year I went to a Habs/Bs game that was 1/6 vs 5/6 fans and earlier this year I went to a rangers/bruins that was 1/3 vs 2/3rd

Or maybe not all, but enough so that the people there for the other team are a noticable minority, not enough to have you thinking, as you are walking around paying way too much for beer "wow, there are alot of xxx" fans here.


Detroit will be a good game for you then, but it\'s already sold out (i believe).  Problem with the habs/rangers is that these are 2 of the closer teams, so their fans are willing to travel to boston.

Pittsburgh games are pretty much all B\'s fans and sell out (people going to see crosby and malkin)

With the team doing very well this year, they may gain some fans back (although the celtics might take more away)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 03, 2008, 02:24:05 pm
Quote from: weekapaug19;175197
They might be able to sell out a bruins/rangers or bruins/canadians game.  Even though they rarely sell out now, playing in a place so big they could easily drop the ticket prices a lot.  Since no seats are on ice level, I wouldn\'t expect a ticket to be higher than $50.  Add lower ticket prices into the mix (which they should do now to attract more fans, the cheaper seats almost always sell out) + tailgating and you can probably fill up the place.


During that storm we had a few weeks back they annouced (via e-mail/phone) that all tickets were $20 at the door.

2,500 showed up.

Tickets are stupid expensive, but much cheaper than MSG.

Where could you tailgate in the middle of a city, anyway?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on January 03, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
tailgating at Gillette, not in boston

and that snow storm was insane, they are lucky 2500 showed up that night....getting to the game must have been tough for anyone, especially out of towners
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 03, 2008, 03:11:26 pm
Quote from: weekapaug19;175201

and that snow storm was insane, they are lucky 2500 showed up that night....getting to the game must have been tough for anyone, especially out of towners


If I lived in the city/on the subway lines I would have gone...assuming that the trains were not effected??

Normally I sit in the $80 seats behind the goal. Yes they are very expensive, but when I was in college i would easily burn $80 (frequently more) in a weekend.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on January 03, 2008, 05:43:37 pm
Quote from: tyzack;175199
Quote from: weekapaug19;175197
They might be able to sell out a bruins/rangers or bruins/canadians game.  Even though they rarely sell out now, playing in a place so big they could easily drop the ticket prices a lot.  Since no seats are on ice level, I wouldn\'t expect a ticket to be higher than $50.  Add lower ticket prices into the mix (which they should do now to attract more fans, the cheaper seats almost always sell out) + tailgating and you can probably fill up the place.


During that storm we had a few weeks back they annouced (via e-mail/phone) that all tickets were $20 at the door.

2,500 showed up.

Tickets are stupid expensive, but much cheaper than MSG.

Where could you tailgate in the middle of a city, anyway?


Sadly, nowhere.  I went to a rangers game before christmas.   completely awesome, except it was that night when it was pouring rain.  glad we drove in, and didnt take the train in.....

Quote from: tyzack;175203
Quote from: weekapaug19;175201

and that snow storm was insane, they are lucky 2500 showed up that night....getting to the game must have been tough for anyone, especially out of towners


If I lived in the city/on the subway lines I would have gone...assuming that the trains were not effected??

Normally I sit in the $80 seats behind the goal. Yes they are very expensive, but when I was in college i would easily burn $80 (frequently more) in a weekend.


Behind the goal is my favorite seating so far.   When you are in the middle, you miss too much of the action.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on January 04, 2008, 10:29:11 am
My favorite seats at Hockey Games are in the corner on the glass. A friend of mine has 4 Bruins seats right on the glass in the Defensive zone. Cannot beat watching a game from there. His father has had the tickets for ever. I was lucky enough to enjoy some games from those seats at the old Boston Garden. You had to basically jam your knees against your chest to sit there tho, but it was fun.

The new garden there is tons of space and the camera man is standing right next to you so you occasionally get on TV which is good and bad I guess.

Haven\'t been to a Rangers game this year tho. In NYC we usually sit in the 400\'s the tickets are hard to get sometimes and expensive
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Inner_Score on January 14, 2008, 05:26:27 pm
go Flyers!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on January 27, 2008, 07:48:12 pm
Anyone watching the All-Star game besides me???
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on January 27, 2008, 08:05:27 pm
Yeah, I liked the super skills last night too.

Personally, I think the judges were too lienant - giving points for attempts, not just goals,  but whatever.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: leith on February 12, 2008, 01:33:39 am
Damn Hockey is way dangerous!. Richard Zednik had his Carotid Artery severed by a teammates skate! Crazy!
Thankfully he is in stable condition.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: jocelyn on February 12, 2008, 02:18:57 am
Really terrible. So glad to hear that he\'s hanging in there.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on February 12, 2008, 06:55:26 am
Quote from: leith;179546
Damn Hockey is way dangerous!. Richard Zednik had his Carotid Artery severed by a teammates skate! Crazy!
Thankfully he is in stable condition.


That was one of the more disturbing things I have watched all year.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on February 25, 2008, 08:06:02 am
Mats stayings ins Torontos (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230511&hubname=)

I have to say that the idea of giving a child a plural name is genious.

Think of it...

Timmiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on February 25, 2008, 09:22:31 am
I meant to write something in here awhile ago, but a few weeks back i was in DC and I went to a Capitols game.  What a phenomenal young team they have.  And what energy too.   By far, best hockey game ive witnessed in all my years, whalers-knighthawks-rangers combined.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on February 25, 2008, 09:39:14 am
Quote from: SkyePrizm;181264
What a phenomenal young team they have.  And what energy too.   .


Alexander Ovechin will do that for a team.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on February 25, 2008, 09:59:16 am
Quote from: tyzack;181268
Quote from: SkyePrizm;181264
What a phenomenal young team they have.  And what energy too.   .


Alexander Ovechin will do that for a team.


Amazing player.  some other young noteables: Green and Backstrom
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on February 26, 2008, 03:13:34 pm
Anyone else paying attention to the trade deadline (that just passed?)

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Anyone else paying attention to the trade deadline (that just passed?)



Trade of the Day:

The Atlanta Thrashers have traded sniper Marian Hossa and winger Pascal Dupuis to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for prospect Angelo Esposito, forwards Colby Armstrong and Erik Christensen and a first-round pick.

Plus:

Leafs send defenceman Gill to Penguins

Means that the Pens are looking like the clear winners on trade day.

They will now be able to field a malkin - crosby - hossa line.

Wow.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on March 04, 2008, 04:11:24 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;181273
Quote from: tyzack;181268
Quote from: SkyePrizm;181264
What a phenomenal young team they have.  And what energy too.   .


Alexander Ovechin will do that for a team.


Amazing player.  some other young noteables: Green and Backstrom


1st Period-

0:32 Washington Matt Cooke (Jeff Schultz, Matt Bradley) 1-0 (Washington)
6:18 Washington Alexander Ovechkin (Nicklas Backstrom, Shaone Morrisonn) 2-0 (Washington)
7:08 Washington Alexander Ovechkin (Nicklas Backstrom, Tom Poti) 3-0 (Washington)
8:29 Washington Matt Bradley (Matt Cooke, Dave Steckel) 4-0 (Washington)
15:31 Washington Alexander Ovechkin (Alexander Semin, Nicklas Backstrom) (PP) 5-0 (Washington)
18:43 Washington Brooks Laich (Viktor Kozlov, Eric Fehr) (PP) 6-0 (Washington)

2nd Period-

7:50 Washington Nicklas Backstrom (Alexander Ovechkin, Tom Poti)
16:31 Washington Donald Brashear (Eric Fehr, John Erskine)

3rd Period-
2:03 Washington Brooks Laich (Alexander Ovechkin, Eric Fehr) (PP) 9-2 (Washington)
18:15 Washington Matt Bradley (Mike Green, Matt Cooke) (PP) 10-2 (Washington)


...Yeah, that\'s a pretty good team.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on March 10, 2008, 02:33:15 pm
I wonder what \'other market\' this would be. (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=231692&hubname=)

Boston?
Philly?
Chicago?

What other markets are large enough and have enough \'hockey fans\' to warrent a game?

Since it would be broadcast on new years, a city without a major college market would be better. Detriot, (GO BLUE) therefore would be out.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 03, 2008, 03:15:41 pm
3 points seperate the 5th and 9th teams in the east with 2-3 games remaining.

I just thought I\'d mention that.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 03, 2008, 07:44:44 pm
Quote from: tyzack;185417
3 points seperate the 5th and 9th teams in the east with 2-3 games remaining.

I just thought I\'d mention that.


i\'m beginning to think you and i are the only ones who like hockey...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 03, 2008, 10:20:46 pm
how bout them new york hockey strangers!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 03, 2008, 10:45:11 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;185463
how bout them new york hockey strangers!


limping in is better than not getting in at all ;)

Devils v. Rangers 1st round should be nice
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 03, 2008, 10:50:39 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s;185464
Quote from: freddiewaht;185463
how bout them new york hockey strangers!


limping in is better than not getting in at all ;)

Devils v. Rangers 1st round should be nice


My boy, Jagr, did a good job tonight...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 04, 2008, 06:28:54 am
Quote from: kindm\'s;185464
Quote from: freddiewaht;185463
how bout them new york hockey strangers!


limping in is better than not getting in at all ;)

Devils v. Rangers 1st round should be nice


They were picked to win the East by TSN in October.

The Sabres fell victim to shitty uniforms and free angency.

If the Bruins win the next two games to pull a 1st round against pittsburg, I\'ll givem them a chance, if things stay as they are they will be uncermoniously swept out of the playoffs by the Habs.

And WTF is going on in Washington? They are on quiet a run.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 04, 2008, 10:51:48 pm
Quote from: tyzack;185480
Quote from: kindm\'s;185464
Quote from: freddiewaht;185463
how bout them new york hockey strangers!


limping in is better than not getting in at all ;)

Devils v. Rangers 1st round should be nice


They were picked to win the East by TSN in October.

The Sabres fell victim to shitty uniforms and free angency.

If the Bruins win the next two games to pull a 1st round against pittsburg, I\'ll givem them a chance, if things stay as they are they will be uncermoniously swept out of the playoffs by the Habs.

And WTF is going on in Washington? They are on quiet a run.



I am telling you that CAPS team is fierce.  To see them live is amazing....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 05, 2008, 07:54:49 am
Quote from: SkyePrizm;185573
Quote from: tyzack;185480
Quote from: kindm\'s;185464
Quote from: freddiewaht;185463
how bout them new york hockey strangers!


limping in is better than not getting in at all ;)

Devils v. Rangers 1st round should be nice


They were picked to win the East by TSN in October.

The Sabres fell victim to shitty uniforms and free angency.

If the Bruins win the next two games to pull a 1st round against pittsburg, I\'ll givem them a chance, if things stay as they are they will be uncermoniously swept out of the playoffs by the Habs.

And WTF is going on in Washington? They are on quiet a run.



I am telling you that CAPS team is fierce.  To see them live is amazing....


tonights game is huge for the caps. i hope nhl network carries it
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Wolfman on April 05, 2008, 12:34:26 pm
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/sports/year_in_sports/photos/05.10.jpg)
^^^^^ Marco Sturm, 2008 NHL finals.

Congratulations Boston Bruins, 2007-2008 official playoff team.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 07, 2008, 09:10:33 am
If ESPN had good hockey coverage, I\'d use their links, but they don\'t. (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=233707&hubname=nhl)

East:
Team GP W L OT PTS GF GA Home Away Conf. Last Ten Streak
1. Montreal *  82 47 25 10 104 262 222 22-13-6 25-12-4 44-20-8 8-1-1 3W  
2. Pittsburgh *  82 47 27 8 102 247 216 26-10-5 21-17-3 39-26-7 6-3-1 1L  
3. Washington *  82 43 31 8 94 242 231 23-15-3 20-16-5 37-28-7 9-1-0 7W  
4. New Jersey 82 46 29 7 99 206 197 25-14-2 21-15-5 39-26-7 4-5-1 1W  
5. NY Rangers 82 42 27 13 97 213 199 25-13-3 17-14-10 41-20-11 5-1-4 2L  
6. Philadelphia 82 42 29 11 95 248 233 21-14-6 21-15-5 37-24-11 7-2-1 2W  
7. Ottawa 82 43 31 8 94 261 247 22-15-4 21-16-4 39-28-5 3-6-1 1L  
8. Boston 82 41 29 12 94 212 222 21-16-4 20-13-8 35-25-12 4-2-4 1L  

West:
Team GP W L OT PTS GF GA Home Away Conf. Last Ten Streak
1. Detroit *  82 54 21 7 115 257 184 29-9-3 25-12-4 47-19-6 7-2-1 2W  
2. San Jose *  82 49 23 10 108 222 193 22-13-6 27-10-4 44-18-10 7-2-1 2L  
3. Minnesota *  82 44 28 10 98 223 218 25-11-5 19-17-5 40-24-8 6-2-2 1L  
4. Anaheim 82 47 27 8 102 205 191 28-9-4 19-18-4 39-25-8 8-2-0 3W  
5. Dallas 82 45 30 7 97 242 207 23-16-2 22-14-5 39-26-7 3-5-2 1W  
6. Colorado 82 44 31 7 95 231 219 27-12-2 17-19-5 36-29-7 5-4-1 2W  
7. Calgary 82 42 30 10 94 229 227 21-11-9 21-19-1 38-27-7 5-5-0 1W  
8. Nashville 82 41 32 9 91 230 229 23-14-4 18-18-5 36-28-8 6-3-1 1L  


I am going to be very conservative and say Detriot from the West and rather risky Washington from the east.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 07, 2008, 09:26:01 am
East
Montreal over Boston
Pitt over Ottowa
Phili over Washington
NJ over rangers
Pitt wins the east

West
Detroit over Nashville
Calgary over San Jose
Colorado over Minnesota
Anaheim over Dallas

Detroit wins the west

Detroit wins the cup
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 07, 2008, 09:40:18 am
Way to disappoint, Buffalo.


Montreal over Washington
San Jose over Anaheim

Montreal over San Jose
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: leith on April 07, 2008, 02:56:59 pm
Go Ducks!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 07, 2008, 03:07:43 pm
Quote from: leith;185741
Go Ducks!


I cannot, in good conscience, cheer for a team which comes from a town in which there is no natrual ice against a team which comes from a town in which there is.

This does not apply only to the ducks, but a number of playoff teams like Dallas, San Jose and Nashville.

Washington is boarder-line.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 07, 2008, 04:20:31 pm
That comment makes absolutely no sense.  Are you telling me that there should be no teams playing where there is no natural ice.  That would eliminate 8-10 teams and continue to further alienate potential hockey fans.  It\'s bad enough that the playoffs and stanley cup finals are only on VS.  If we don\'t bring in more fans, the sport will continue to decline to a point where it only exists in Canada and Europe.  Now, I can\'t stand the way the NHL is since the strike, but I\'ll take hockey where and how I can get it, even if that means watching a team in california or florida or any other warmer climate.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 07, 2008, 05:40:52 pm
Quote from: Yoda;185763
That comment makes absolutely no sense.  Are you telling me that there should be no teams playing where there is no natural ice.  That would eliminate 8-10 teams and continue to further alienate potential hockey fans.  It\'s bad enough that the playoffs and stanley cup finals are only on VS.  If we don\'t bring in more fans, the sport will continue to decline to a point where it only exists in Canada and Europe.  Now, I can\'t stand the way the NHL is since the strike, but I\'ll take hockey where and how I can get it, even if that means watching a team in california or florida or any other warmer climate.


All the Ranger games are on MSG as well as being covered by TSN in Canada and on VS.(when scheduled) I would imagine all the normal local outlets will carry their teams. It just means out of market games will be harder to watch for some. I am glad I will be able to watch some of the other series. Although it looks like the Bruins got hosed for coverage and I don\'t have NESN.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: BigMamaBlueberry on April 07, 2008, 06:34:53 pm
Quote from: tyzack;185745
I cannot, in good conscience, cheer for a team which comes from a town in which there is no natrual ice against a team which comes from a town in which there is.


I cannot, in good conscience, cheer for a team which is not an original six team

I\'m with Yoda, the more fans the the NHL can garner the better.  The strike hurt them a lot and I personally don\'t think Bettman\'s "kinder, gentler, parity packed" league is helping.

That said, GO RANGERS!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 08, 2008, 07:14:10 am
I am not saying that I am not going to watch any of the western series; I watch pretty much all the hockey I can. I was saying that last year, for example, when it was ottowa vs anahiem in the finals, I cheered for ottowa, same with edmonton vs carolina and calgary vs tampa bay.

As for media coverage; NBC/VS (US), TSN/CBC (CAN) have national broadcasting rights, however those rights are given to local market outlets, such as NESN in Boston or MSG in NYC. However, the national broadcasts will trump local media coverage.

In the case of NESN, though, since that station is owned 80% by the Red Sox and 20% by the Bruins, normally the Red Sox will win out if there are conflicting games.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 08, 2008, 07:30:47 am
Being a Rangers fan at heart, I will cheer for them for as far as they go....

but also i will secretly be cheering for that Caps team.  I think right now they exhibit the hunger for the game.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 08, 2008, 08:48:55 am
I\'ll be rooting for Devs all the way.  I don\'t think that they\'ll go too far this year, but I\'ll be at the game Wednesday as probably the only person wearing a Kansas City Scout sweater.  

But to another note, I do feel that the NHL is losing out big time by not having their playoff games broadcast on network tv or ESPN.  At the least, the finals should be on CBS, NBC, FOX or ABC.  Without the exposure, they will not bring in new fans.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 08, 2008, 10:51:16 am
Quote from: Yoda;185844
I\'ll be rooting for Devs all the way.  I don\'t think that they\'ll go too far this year, but I\'ll be at the game Wednesday as probably the only person wearing a Kansas City Scout sweater.  
But to another note, I do feel that the NHL is losing out big time by not having their playoff games broadcast on network tv or ESPN.  At the least, the finals should be on CBS, NBC, FOX or ABC.  Without the exposure, they will not bring in new fans.


Games 3-7 (if nessacry) of the Stanely Cup will be on NBC.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 08, 2008, 11:47:37 am
All Stanley Cup Final games should be on NBC PERIOD! If friggin figure skating gets time on network TV, the finals should be on network TV.

Yes, I said Kansas City Scouts.  I alternate between KCS, Colorado Rockies and Devils (Christmas colors - I have both home and away for the red and black, but am still protesting the color changes) sweaters.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 08, 2008, 12:11:56 pm
Quote from: Yoda;185854
All Stanley Cup Final games should be on NBC PERIOD! If friggin figure skating gets time on network TV, the finals should be on network TV.

Yes, I said Kansas City Scouts.  I alternate between KCS, Colorado Rockies and Devils (Christmas colors - I have both home and away for the red and black, but am still protesting the color changes) sweaters.


Unfortunately figure skating is more popular. I HATE the coverage on NBC anyway their group of announcers are annoying as hell. But I do like Doc.

I am just glad I\'ll be able to see some outof market games
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 09, 2008, 12:17:51 pm
(http://ruinedmylife.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/new-york-rangers-logo.jpg)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 09, 2008, 04:37:59 pm
Pitch - thank you for putting your stamp of approval on the rangers for this series
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 09, 2008, 06:39:46 pm
Ryan - thank you for liking the team that mine is going to bitch slap this series.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 09, 2008, 09:31:47 pm
4-1
ooooooooooooh soooooooooooooorry chip
wellplayed game
drury=best defenseman in the league
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 10, 2008, 02:08:34 am
Great scene at the game.  Great first two periods.  Too many blue shirts at a Devils home game and fucking Dancing Larry was in the house.  Devils management was stupid to play his song a second time after knowing he was in the crowd after the first time.  Cudos to The Rock for making this a rangers home game.  Bottom line, my team has become offensively anemic.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 10, 2008, 09:21:31 am
Quote from: freddiewaht;185973
4-1
ooooooooooooh soooooooooooooorry chip
wellplayed game
drury=best defenseman in the league

Drury does make CT look good....figures he was from Prep and not ND though...

I have to give some props to the goalie, Lundqvist.  He held his own last night....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 10, 2008, 09:43:52 am
Quote from: freddiewaht;185973
4-1
ooooooooooooh soooooooooooooorry chip
wellplayed game
drury=best defenseman in the league


Since I am outside the MSG area, I was forced to watch Pittsburg vs. Ottowa, on Versus. it was an okay game with the highlights of a late 3rd period brawl (Crosby got a roughing/fighting) and some amazing saves by Flurrey.

I was able to drop in the Rangers game via NHL/TSN.

I\'m pulling for the Rangers here; the Devils have won too much recently, you know?

Did anyone catch San Jose vs. Calgary?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 10, 2008, 09:52:20 am
Quote from: tyzack;185839
As for media coverage; NBC/VS (US), TSN/CBC (CAN) have national broadcasting rights, however those rights are given to local market outlets, such as NESN in Boston or MSG in NYC. However, the national broadcasts will trump local media coverage.


VS is an awesome channel! All 4 games were available last night on DirecTV. All in HD taboot. Looks to be the same for tonight as well. I could care less about regular season hockey but as soon as the playoffs start I watch as much as I can. Maybe it\'s just me but it seems like the games are more exciting with so much more on the line. The same could be said for any sport though so I guess it just comes down to personal preference.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 10, 2008, 10:30:41 am
Quote from: tyzack;185987
Quote from: freddiewaht;185973
4-1
ooooooooooooh soooooooooooooorry chip
wellplayed game
drury=best defenseman in the league


Since I am outside the MSG area, I was forced to watch Pittsburg vs. Ottowa, on Versus. it was an okay game with the highlights of a late 3rd period brawl (Crosby got a roughing/fighting) and some amazing saves by Flurrey.

I was able to drop in the Rangers game via NHL/TSN.

I\'m pulling for the Rangers here; the Devils have won too much recently, you know?

Did anyone catch San Jose vs. Calgary?


Does anyone know how to watch the CBC feed on the internet if you aren\'t in Canada? I remember someone posted a mirror last year but I lost the link.

How to view the CBC feeds for the Canadian Television Impaired:

1. Go to any Canadian proxy server (I prefer freeproxy.ca (pops))

2. Once that page completes, enter the CBC\'s web address in the box provided (http://www.cbc.ca)

3. Once the CBC page has loaded, follow the links to the Hockey Night In Canada (HNIC) page.

4. Click the video link for the game, which will open in Windows Media player.

5. Wipe hands on pants and enjoy.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 10, 2008, 10:04:50 pm
Bruins got spanked tonight....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 10, 2008, 10:20:29 pm
montreal is a tough crowd,thats for sure..
id love to see lucic fuck someone up this series
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 11, 2008, 11:12:24 am
Dallas was dominant last night winning 4-0 on the road. It looked like the defending champs were playing in shoes. They were constantly being out hustled to loose pucks and they were lazy during their power play defense, which resulted in all 4 goals.

Montreal and Detroit look scary good; even though it took Detroit longer to gain control of the game. I don\'t expect either of their series to last more than 5 games.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 11, 2008, 01:59:14 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;186049
montreal is a tough crowd,thats for sure..
id love to see lucic fuck someone up this series


He tried to at the end of the first. He hit some hab relatively hard down their end then the next line chara was sandwhiched and that was the last i saw of that...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 12, 2008, 12:54:42 pm
Well, that\'s two.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 12, 2008, 04:45:09 pm
i smell a sweep
new york strangers=stanleycup champs
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 12, 2008, 10:39:09 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;186168
i smell a sweep
new york strangers=stanleycup champs


now don\'t jinx us....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 13, 2008, 08:25:17 am
The Bruins played much better last night than Thrusday, and might have had a chance if they didn\'t take so many damn penalties.

I think:
Rangers
Caps
Habs
Sens

out of the first round in the east. I haven\'t been paying enough attention/staying up late enough to follow all the west action but my guess is:
Detriot
Calgary
Colorado
Dallas
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 13, 2008, 09:21:22 pm
i am soooo loving this rangers game that is on right now....

nothing like some dirty hockey fights...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 13, 2008, 10:10:45 pm
tough loss for the strangers
on a sidenote,if i was a homesexual id totally bang sean avery.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 14, 2008, 08:00:40 am
Quote from: freddiewaht;186283
tough loss for the strangers
on a sidenote,if i was a homesexual id totally bang sean avery.


that was such a cheap win for the devils.   off the freaking skate?!?!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 14, 2008, 08:31:28 am
I would like to take this oppertunity to apologize to the following cities:
Baltimore
Tampa Bay
Arizona
Toronto

There is no reason for a sell-out crowd of a major PLAYOFF sporting event to be 1/3 (at least) the visiting team from, we\'ll call it 4 hours away or more.

Although, I started mooing (cow noises) at this chick from montreal and she totally blew up in my face and got kicked out.

pwnage.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 14, 2008, 08:43:45 am
A win is a win
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 15, 2008, 11:37:31 am
The Avery Rule Is Now In Effect

"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender\'s face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 15, 2008, 11:42:05 am
Quote from: Yoda;186418
The Avery Rule Is Now In Effect

"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender\'s face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."


?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 15, 2008, 12:00:11 pm
Quote from: tyzack;186419
Quote from: Yoda;186418
The Avery Rule Is Now In Effect

"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender\'s face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."


?


Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 15, 2008, 12:10:20 pm
No against the rules (at the time), but a totally bush-league move.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 15, 2008, 01:03:17 pm
ahahahahahahahahahahaehaehaehahahahahahaheeahahahaha
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 15, 2008, 09:29:38 pm
je deteste les habitons
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 16, 2008, 09:44:56 pm
3-1
noooooooooice
the strangers rookies(doobz/staal/callahan/dawes)=the ser
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 16, 2008, 09:53:23 pm
Staal had an incredible game tonight.  One more to go!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 17, 2008, 09:34:59 am
That guy Avery seems like a deuche. Face guarding Brodeur in game 3 then bitching about a no call late in the 3rd period last night in a tied game! He\'s lucky they scored shortly afterwards because he blew a chance at the go ahead goal. I hate players that bitch at the refs/umpires. Just stfu and play the game.

How about the Predators? Wow. Those games have been great so far. I\'d love to see Detroit go down in the first round.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 17, 2008, 11:00:33 am
Quote from: booztravlr;186611
That guy Avery seems like a deuche. Face guarding Brodeur in game 3 then bitching about a no call late in the 3rd period last night in a tied game! He\'s lucky they scored shortly afterwards because he blew a chance at the go ahead goal. I hate players that bitch at the refs/umpires. Just stfu and play the game.

How about the Predators? Wow. Those games have been great so far. I\'d love to see Detroit go down in the first round.



I might agree with you if he ever got a call. The only time Avery ever gets a penalty called in his favor if it is so blatant that the ref cannot ignore it.

The officiating in the NHL is terrible.

The Refs ignored so many blatant penalties and then called chicken shit stuff. It really looked like the refs were not calling stuff against the Devils on purpose. I don\'t normally claim a bias but holy crap they missed some really easy calls. Open ice trips etc

Hell even the penalty against Madden was total BS. They should have called the trip and or the cross check just prior to that call against Madden. He did not hold the man going in to the boards. I want the Rangers to win but a fair game should paramount.

The NHL really needs to get on the officials
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 17, 2008, 01:20:49 pm
If he wasn\'t such a punk/goon, maybe he would get a call from time to time.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 17, 2008, 01:40:09 pm
Quote from: Yoda;186642
If he wasn\'t such a punk/goon, maybe he would get a call from time to time.

Perhaps. Goon ? I wouldn\'t call him a goon.  Agitator definitely, punk most definitely.


cough Claude Lemieux cough


Oh and how did that loss taste ? ;)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 17, 2008, 02:08:49 pm
I never like Claude, so I have no issue with calling out Avery.  I think he is a punk, because he does everything in his power short of knocking someone over to draw a penalty, but when someone does the same to him, he goes right to the ref and complaigns.

Do I like losing to the rangers, no, but realize that if the rangers win, they\'ll either get Montreal or Pitt and that will be the end of the cup run.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 17, 2008, 02:30:39 pm
Quote from: Yoda;186653
I never like Claude, so I have no issue with calling out Avery.  I think he is a punk, because he does everything in his power short of knocking someone over to draw a penalty, but when someone does the same to him, he goes right to the ref and complaigns.

Do I like losing to the rangers, no, but realize that if the rangers win, they\'ll either get Montreal or Pitt and that will be the end of the cup run.

So you don\'t call out Brodeur for his diving ?

And several other Devils doing the same last night trying to draw calls.

And the king of complainers Sidney Crosby.

I was really hoping that Ottawa could put together a stronger series. Pittsburgh has walked all over them. Boy did they fizzle this season. I would have picked them t win the east at the beginning of the season. They just imploded.

Oh and how about Nashville ? I love any team that makes to folks in Detroit sweat. Detroit is f-ing awesome but now it is only a 3 game series.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 17, 2008, 02:51:47 pm
The Rangers did their fair share of complaigning and Brodeur was banged up a lot without any calls going against the rags, so no, I\'m not going to call out Brodeur.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 17, 2008, 03:22:16 pm
Quote from: Yoda;186658
The Rangers did their fair share of complaigning and Brodeur was banged up a lot without any calls going against the rags, so no, I\'m not going to call out Brodeur.

HOMER!

Actually they did call goal tender interference. On sojstrom when he got pushed in to Brodeur, vame up with a cut face and they called him.

Not to mention the Devils checked the stick out of the goalies hands which "should" be an automatic interference call, which also lead to a goal.

And they complained because the refs were basically trying to hand the game to the Devils. The goal should have been dissallowed, There was no interference call when the Devils tripped Gomez which would have been a break away, not to mention the non call on the icing at the end of the game which almost cost the Rangers, the several too many men on the ice missed calls as well. Not sure which game you were watching but...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 17, 2008, 03:44:29 pm
You\'re right, I am a homer.  What fan isn\'t happy when the calls go their way.  Don\'t make it seem like the rangers haven\'t had any calls go their way.  

I really hate when the devils play the rangers in the playoffs because the series usually swings one way or another (in recent years).  The rangers are up this series, we swept you last year.  But ranger fans tend to make this their stanley cup and we never hear the end of it.  

While I\'m ranting, I\'m sick of the same argument which usually goes like this.  

- Devils suck
- Rangers suck
- At least we don\'t have our parade in a parking lot
- At least we\'ve won 3 cups since your last cup
- At least we sell out the garden
- At least it didn\'t take us 54 years to win our last two cups

I\'m sick of it.  That\'s why I pray that these two don\'t meet in the playoffs.  It\'s the same reason that I don\'t like the Yanks and the Sox or the Yanks and the Mets playing each other in the playoffs.  I know, this makes me a lame fan, but I like to enjoy the game without all of the drama of local rivals.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 17, 2008, 03:55:39 pm
Quote from: Yoda;186667
You\'re right, I am a homer.  What fan isn\'t happy when the calls go their way.  Don\'t make it seem like the rangers haven\'t had any calls go their way.  

I really hate when the devils play the rangers in the playoffs because the series usually swings one way or another (in recent years).  The rangers are up this series, we swept you last year.  But ranger fans tend to make this their stanley cup and we never hear the end of it.  

While I\'m ranting, I\'m sick of the same argument which usually goes like this.  

- Devils suck
- Rangers suck
- At least we don\'t have our parade in a parking lot
- At least we\'ve won 3 cups since your last cup
- At least we sell out the garden
- At least it didn\'t take us 54 years to win our last two cups

I\'m sick of it.  That\'s why I pray that these two don\'t meet in the playoffs.  It\'s the same reason that I don\'t like the Yanks and the Sox or the Yanks and the Mets playing each other in the playoffs.  I know, this makes me a lame fan, but I like to enjoy the game without all of the drama of local rivals.


Well I bet you, like us have been tense as hell during this series. I really think both teams are trying to give their fans heart attacks. Constant nail biting. No team is ever really in a safe lead. Critical mistakes by both teams etc etc. It has made for great TV viewing tho. It really is a great series. Now if only Boston was able eek out some wins (I know, but a guy can dream)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 17, 2008, 04:09:48 pm
The bottom line is that the Devils need to make a change.  I think that Sutter is a good coach, but I think that Johnny Mac should have gotten the job.  The bottom line is that we need to take a different approach and not rely so heavily on the dump and chase and we really need to start thinking about who\'s going to take over when Marty retires or can\'t play anymore.  He\'s getting older, but the devils brass doesn\'t want to admit it - Marty\'s more guilty than anyone.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Wolfman on April 17, 2008, 09:43:10 pm
Get A Penalty Box!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 18, 2008, 09:29:58 am
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hcv7QtRxR1XsrM:http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/3/full/27.gif)

Nice Win last night!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 18, 2008, 09:44:47 am
Two things happened last night:
1.) The Bruins figured out that in order to win you need to put the little rubber disk into the back of the net.

2.) Carey Price should that wonderful as he is, he is a rookie.

...I don\'t want to say this because it might jinx them, but Montreal and Boston played a series in 2003, one team - lead by a rookie goalie - was up 3 games to 1. The other team rallied and won in 7.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 18, 2008, 09:46:34 am
Quote from: Wolfman;186687
Get A Penalty Box!!!


Ha! I came in here to say the same exact thing. Well played.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 18, 2008, 02:52:12 pm
Soooo sad the Caps lost last night. My dream of a Caps-Rangers series is over.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 19, 2008, 03:54:41 pm
Caps proved me wrong today.  They are still in it. What an amazing game of hockey this afternoon.  Soooo wish i had been there in person.  Sergei Fedorov was on fire.   The whole last minute of the game was high dramatics.  LOVED it.

And last night, Rangers sealed the deal.  Fantastic.  Maybe my dream match-up is possible afterall.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 20, 2008, 12:39:28 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;186826
Caps proved me wrong today.  They are still in it. What an amazing game of hockey this afternoon.  Soooo wish i had been there in person.  Sergei Fedorov was on fire.   The whole last minute of the game was high dramatics.  LOVED it.

And last night, Rangers sealed the deal.  Fantastic.  Maybe my dream match-up is possible afterall.


I would like to vent a bit at the new york time sports section. Yesterday, after the Rangers beat the devils they ran and article previewing either a rangers/penquins or a rangers/hab series.

I would like to introduce the following people to the staff at the nyt:

Forwards
#    Player    Height    Weight    DOB    Age    Birthplace
11    P.J. Axelsson      6\' 1"    188    Feb 26, 1975    33    Kungalv, SWE
37    Patrice Bergeron   **    6\' 2"    194    Jul 24, 1985    22    Ancienne-Lorette, QC, CAN
81    Philip Kessel      6\' 0"    180    Oct 2, 1987    20    Madison, WI, USA
12    Chuck Kobasew      6\' 0"    192    Apr 17, 1982    26    Vancouver, BC, CAN
46    David Krejci      6\' 0"    177    Apr 28, 1986    21    Sternberk, CZE
17    Milan Lucic      6\' 4"    220    Jun 7, 1988    19    Vancouver, BC, CAN
13    Glen Metropolit      5\' 10"    193    Jun 25, 1974    33    Toronto, ON, CAN
27    Glen Murray      6\' 3"    218    Nov 1, 1972    35    Halifax, NS, CAN
56    Petteri Nokelainen      6\' 1"    191    Jan 16, 1986    22    Imatra, FIN
53    Jeremy Reich      6\' 1"    203    Feb 11, 1979    29    Craik, SK, CAN
91    Marc Savard      5\' 10"    191    Jul 17, 1977    30    Ottawa, ON, CAN
72    Peter Schaefer      6\' 1"    200    Jul 12, 1977    30    Regina, SK, CAN
60    Vladimir Sobotka      5\' 10"    183    Jul 2, 1987    20    Trebic, CZE
16    Marco Sturm      6\' 0"    194    Sep 8, 1978    29    Dingolfing, DEU
22    Shawn Thornton      6\' 2"    217    Jul 23, 1977    30    Oshawa, ON, CAN

Defensemen
#    Player    Height    Weight    DOB    Age    Birthplace
41    Andrew Alberts      6\' 5"    218    Jun 30, 1981    26    Minneapolis, MN, USA
38    Bobby Allen   **    6\' 0"    201    Nov 14, 1978    29    Weymouth, MA, USA
33    Zdeno Chara "C"     6\' 9"    255    Mar 18, 1977    31    Trencin, SVK
21    Andrew Ference      5\' 11"    189    Mar 17, 1979    29    Edmonton, AB, CAN
34    Shane Hnidy      6\' 2"    204    Nov 8, 1975    32    Neepawa, MB, CAN
45    Mark Stuart      6\' 2"    213    Apr 27, 1984    23    Rochester, MN, USA
44    Aaron Ward      6\' 2"    209    Jan 17, 1973    35    Windsor, ON, CAN
6    Dennis Wideman      6\' 0"    196    Mar 20, 1983    25    Kitchener, ON, CAN

Goalies
#    Player    Height    Weight    DOB    Age    Birthplace
29    Alex Auld      6\' 5"    221    Jan 7, 1981    27    Thunder Bay, ON, CAN
35    Manny Fernandez   **    6\' 0"    207    Aug 27, 1974    33    Etobicoke, ON, CAN
30    Tim Thomas      5\' 11"    201    Apr 15, 1974    34    Flint, MI, USA
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 21, 2008, 12:49:13 pm
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hcv7QtRxR1XsrM:http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/3/full/27.gif)

HUGE game tonight !!!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 22, 2008, 06:58:02 am
je deteste les habitons
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 22, 2008, 07:06:30 am
HUGE game tonight for the Caps....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 22, 2008, 07:43:14 am
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187029
HUGE game tonight for the Caps....


The caps had home ice this series? Here I thought Philly was the higher ranked team...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 22, 2008, 07:47:59 am
Quote from: tyzack;187031
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187029
HUGE game tonight for the Caps....


The caps had home ice this series? Here I thought Philly was the higher ranked team...


the Caps actually won their division...southeast....

Generally though, i think their wins and losses were similiar.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 22, 2008, 10:32:04 am
Back to back Game 7\'s tonight on VS.

I think the Caps are going to advance.

Montreal v. NYR
Pitt v. Washington
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 22, 2008, 10:03:41 pm
Heartbreaking loss for the Caps tonight..... in OT.    I really thought they were going to pull it off.  

Can\'t wait for the Rangers to annihilate the Flyers.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 23, 2008, 07:56:03 am
GO RANGERS GO!

(or whatever their cheer is)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 23, 2008, 08:27:35 am
Let\'s go Sid The Kid!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 23, 2008, 10:14:38 am
Well I am going to stop making predictions because I obviously suck at it.

Looking forward to round 2
Title: Stanley Cup, here we come...
Post by: BigMamaBlueberry on April 25, 2008, 06:11:44 pm
Whoo hoo! Let\'s Go Rangers (clap, clap, clap clap clap).  We\'re gunna stomp Cindy and crew.  Yay for playoff hockey :thewave:

(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/images/graves.jpg)

(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/images/cindy_criesby.jpg)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 26, 2008, 12:14:01 pm
fucking unbelievable..
what a doozie..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 26, 2008, 01:33:45 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;187462
fucking unbelievable..
what a doozie..


tough loss.

The rangers kind of imploded. I cannot stand how they sit back on the lead. This game was identical to the last rangers v. devils. the only difference was the rangers could not hold on.

But what really pisses me off is how the F the ref can call interference on Straka with less than 4 minutes to go.

Straka and Crosby were both neck and neck fighting to get up ice, Crosby either fell down or dove and they called Straka. Total BS. Neither player was really anywhere near the puck. I\'m not saying the rangers were gonna win but i like the game decided on the ice and not by a bad call.

It is just a continuation of the poor officiating in the NHL.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 26, 2008, 01:44:15 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s;187466

It is just a continuation of the poor officiating in the NHL.


Totally agree.   Lately, I\'ve noticed contradictions. Especially watching that Caps series.  A certain thing will happen.  No call.  The exact same thing happens again.  Call.   No consistency.  

But...in any case....I KNOW the rangers will pull through this series.  Its just one loss.  Tomorrow is another game....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 26, 2008, 01:50:55 pm
yea,you dont make that call at that point in the game.
however,if your playing in pittsburgh and EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE CROWD is wearing a pitt shirt,its par for the course..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 26, 2008, 01:57:01 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187468
Quote from: kindm\'s;187466

It is just a continuation of the poor officiating in the NHL.


Totally agree.   Lately, I\'ve noticed contradictions. Especially watching that Caps series.  A certain thing will happen.  No call.  The exact same thing happens again.  Call.   No consistency.  


They\'ve been talking about that daily on TSN.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 27, 2008, 02:24:09 pm
friendly reminder to put on the rangers game.....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 28, 2008, 12:32:12 am
The Rangers loss was entirely disappointing on soooo many levels.  WE NEEEEEEED to win the next two in NY.

On another night I\'ll rant on how Crosby is overrated.....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 28, 2008, 07:23:21 am
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187659
On another night I\'ll rant on how Crosby is overrated.....


I was expecting at least some mention of the goal/non-goal.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 28, 2008, 08:44:35 am
Two down, two to go!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 28, 2008, 08:53:37 am
No mention from the Albany crowd about what happened there on Friday night?

(I guess y\'all where in Burlington...)

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3367911&categoryId=2378529 (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3367911&categoryId=2378529)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 28, 2008, 10:29:37 am
Can we please simply get a game where the refs are a non-factor ? That is all I ask.

This is what I don\'t understand. There are 2 refs. 1 up high 1 down low. Why does the ref down low who is in a shitty place to view the play decide to blow the play dead when the ref up high would have the better viewing angle.

The Rangers played uninspired hockey anyway but I mean holy crap when they finally had a chance the ref blows the play dead on what would have def. been a goal.

It not only changed the game but potentially changed the entire series. Who knows if the Rangers would have picked up their play after the score.

But regardless the Rangers blew so many power play opportunities, they got the man advantage in some crucial moments and did nothing with it. They played like they did at the end of the season instead of how they played against the Devils and game 1 in this series. If they continue to play like they did last night we might as well get the brooms out.

I am not really sure who dictated the play yesterday. It would seem the pace would favor the Rangers as they should not get in to a run and gun game against Pitt but they had no offense at all and the Pens dominated center ice. Rangers need to get more pucks on net and some traffic in front. Same thing they didn\'t do all season.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 28, 2008, 10:37:53 am
Quote from: tyzack;187662
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187659
On another night I\'ll rant on how Crosby is overrated.....

I was expecting at least some mention of the goal/non-goal.

When i wrote that last night, I was a little drunk and it was past midnight.   I was trying to control the nonsense that was going to spew out of me.

The whole goal/non goal just shows once again how the NHL officiating this playoff season is a shame.   They lost sight of the puck??  COME ON NOW.  We all know thats just nonsense.

Quote from: kindm\'s;187681
The Rangers played uninspired hockey


You can say that again.

Somebody better wake up this team for tomorrow night....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 29, 2008, 08:44:35 pm
End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 29, 2008, 09:38:38 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187973
End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...


its official..
strangers=in big fucking trouble
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 29, 2008, 09:42:51 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;187982
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187973
End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...


its official..
strangers=in big fucking trouble


Tonight=sloppy.

FIVE, count them FIVE, power plays and nothing to show for them.

Drury injured.... didn\'t help matters either.

I don\'t know if i can stomache watching on Thursday, but I will.....we need a miracle.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 29, 2008, 09:47:55 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187984
Quote from: freddiewaht;187982
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187973
End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...


its official..
strangers=in big fucking trouble


Tonight=sloppy.

FIVE, count them FIVE, power plays and nothing to show for them

Drury injured didn\'t help matters either.

I don\'t know if i can stomache watching on Thursday, but I will.....we need a miracle.




although hollweg has the best stache in hockey,he should be dragged out in the parking lot of the garden,shot and have a hockeystick rammed repeatedly up his ass(without lubricant)for that stupidass hit on sykora..
tie the game
fans into it
hollweg flexes hit stupidity..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 29, 2008, 09:52:00 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;187987
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187984
Quote from: freddiewaht;187982
Quote from: SkyePrizm;187973
End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...


its official..
strangers=in big fucking trouble


Tonight=sloppy.

FIVE, count them FIVE, power plays and nothing to show for them

Drury injured didn\'t help matters either.

I don\'t know if i can stomache watching on Thursday, but I will.....we need a miracle.




although hollweg has the best stache in hockey,he should be dragged out in the parking lot of the garden,shot and have a hockeystick rammed repeatedly up his ass(without lubricant)for that stupidass hit on sykora..
tie the game
fans into it
hollweg flexes hit stupidity..


speaking of fans, that crowd sucked.  I could hear crickets.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on April 29, 2008, 09:55:05 pm
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End of 2nd period, and all i can do is shake my head....

not looking good...


its official..
strangers=in big fucking trouble


Tonight=sloppy.

FIVE, count them FIVE, power plays and nothing to show for them

Drury injured didn\'t help matters either.

I don\'t know if i can stomache watching on Thursday, but I will.....we need a miracle.




although hollweg has the best stache in hockey,he should be dragged out in the parking lot of the garden,shot and have a hockeystick rammed repeatedly up his ass(without lubricant)for that stupidass hit on sykora..
tie the game
fans into it
hollweg flexes hit stupidity..


speaking of fans, that crowd sucked.  I could hear crickets.




they were goin nuts when they scored the 2nd and 3rd goals..
after hollweg ruined all momentum,i think they all left and belliedup at the bar somewhere..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on April 30, 2008, 07:23:06 am
Quest for the Cup

EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Montreal vs (6) Philadelphia
Flyers lead series 2-1
(2) Pittsburgh vs (5) NY Rangers
Penguins lead series 3-0



WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Detroit vs (6) Colorado
Red Wings lead series 3-0
(2) San Jose vs (5) Dallas
Stars lead series 3-0


All but one semi-final could end up in a sweep, pretty boring if you ask me.
Worse off, all the teams I am cheering for are on the verge of being swept.

I cheered for a team in 2004 that was down 3-0 and won in 7 so I haven\'t given up all hope.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 30, 2008, 08:44:02 am
3 down, 1 to go.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 30, 2008, 11:16:19 am
OWN3D is the only thing i can use to describe the lack luster preformance at MSG last night.

The Rangers began the game like a deer in headlights.

No refs to blame for this craptastic game. They are so done. I\'ll eat my words if they become the 2nd team in NHL history to come back from 3-0 but I do not see that happening

I hate watching sports when you don\'t care about the teams.

If whats left is Pitt, Philly, and Montreal. Who the hell do you root for. UGH

I guess of those 3 I hate Philly the least.

This was probably the best shot the Rangers will have for a few years. With all the free agents and restricted free agents they will have this summer the team is going to look a lot different next season.

makes you wonder if they should play all the kids they called up from Hartford last week. At least they would get an NHL playoff game under their belt. Hell maybe they could even keep up with the Pens.

And WTF Hank ? could you please stop A goal. I mean Holy crap, sure a lot were deflected and good goals but not 1 big stop the entire game. I hate this about the Rangers and it has been an issue all season. If Hank plays great, The Ranges don\'t score, If he gives up goals the Rangers score. No consistency
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on April 30, 2008, 12:16:21 pm
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123

New York Rangers forward Sean Avery was rushed to a Manhattan hospital on Wednesday morning in cardiac arrest just hours after his team\'s playoff loss, the New York Daily News reported, citing unnamed sources.

Avery was unconscious and not breathing, the newspaper reported.

A source at St. Vincent\'s Medical Center said Avery, 28, arrived at about 3 a.m. Wednesday morning. Hours earlier, the Rangers lost 5-3 in the Stanley Cup playoffs against the Pittsburgh Penguins at Madison Square Garden.

A source close to the team confirmed Avery had been rushed to the hospital, but declined to offer any specifics, the Daily News reported.

I didn\'t watch the game last night. Did he take a brutal hit?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on April 30, 2008, 12:29:37 pm
He had a lacerated spleen

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=362098
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on April 30, 2008, 01:16:58 pm
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123

New York Rangers forward Sean Avery was rushed to a Manhattan hospital on Wednesday morning in cardiac arrest just hours after his team\'s playoff loss, the New York Daily News reported, citing unnamed sources.

Avery was unconscious and not breathing, the newspaper reported.

A source at St. Vincent\'s Medical Center said Avery, 28, arrived at about 3 a.m. Wednesday morning. Hours earlier, the Rangers lost 5-3 in the Stanley Cup playoffs against the Pittsburgh Penguins at Madison Square Garden.

A source close to the team confirmed Avery had been rushed to the hospital, but declined to offer any specifics, the Daily News reported.


I didn\'t watch the game last night. Did he take a brutal hit?


I was just about to say no, and now I seem to remember a really nice hit on avery behind the play. I would say it was a good hit but not big enough to be remembered / highlighted.

The biggest hit of the night I think came When Mark Staal (Rangers) nailed his younger brother Jordan Staal (Pen). It was a huge hit right near the boards. I think Jordan was lucky to walk away. Really close to hitting his head in a prone position on the boards. It would be interesting to hear what happens at their next family get together.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on April 30, 2008, 02:52:36 pm
That\'s odd about Avery....the only one that looked injured was Drury at the end.  He couldn\'t even stand up to skate.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 01, 2008, 09:45:09 pm
Who prayed for the miracle?  Cause the Rangers got it tonight.  
My boy Jagr really stepped it up and Drury played an amazing game, considering his injury.
And Lundquist was OUTSTANDING in the goal tonight.  
With a sigh, i say, FINALLY.

Sunday afternoon will be an interesting game to watch....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 01, 2008, 09:49:38 pm
ser game
the strangers played like a team with their backs to the wall
straka=hustler
hank with set the momentum with the shootout save on malkin,who also sould be whooped by colton orr on sunday for that cheapshot on paul mara.
see yaal sunday!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 01, 2008, 09:53:14 pm
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ser game
the strangers played like a team with their backs to the wall
straka=hustler
hank with set the momentum with the shootout save on malkin,who also sould be whooped by colton orr on sunday for that cheapshot on paul mara.
see yaal sunday!


That was a cheap shot on Mara.  Especially since it was at the end of the game.  I feel Sunday is going to be a dirty dirty game.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 01, 2008, 10:06:51 pm
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ser game
the strangers played like a team with their backs to the wall
straka=hustler
hank with set the momentum with the shootout save on malkin,who also sould be whooped by colton orr on sunday for that cheapshot on paul mara.
see yaal sunday!


That was a cheap shot on Mara.  Especially since it was at the end of the game.  I feel Sunday is going to be a dirty dirty game.


malkin=bitter about perhaps the worst penalty shots in the history of playoff penalty shots..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2008, 11:06:11 pm
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ser game
the strangers played like a team with their backs to the wall
straka=hustler
hank with set the momentum with the shootout save on malkin,who also sould be whooped by colton orr on sunday for that cheapshot on paul mara.
see yaal sunday!


That was a cheap shot on Mara.  Especially since it was at the end of the game.  I feel Sunday is going to be a dirty dirty game.


malkin=bitter about perhaps the worst penalty shots in the history of playoff penalty shots..


hilarious!!!!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 02, 2008, 07:32:07 am
Colorado got uncerimouniously swept.

Fux0rs.

That being said, I enjoyed watching the rangers game. I still think they can win the series.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on May 02, 2008, 08:48:07 am
(http://ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/manocornuto.gif) The Evil Eye on The Rangers
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on May 02, 2008, 10:44:47 am
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Ha Take that !
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on May 02, 2008, 10:47:47 am
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Take that 13 times!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 02, 2008, 11:11:24 am
http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index155.html

we need to infect the penquins with acute boogie mania!
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 02, 2008, 11:29:54 am
Rewatching Malkin\'s Penalty shot.....yeah...wow.....what was he thinking???

Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 02, 2008, 11:48:21 am
I think he was betting that he could snap a wrister over luvindaquists glove (scotting report saying that he is slow with his clove)
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2008, 03:39:30 pm
Rangers game not looking good right now......
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 04, 2008, 03:48:14 pm
cant possibly win against this team playin like they did in that second period..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 04, 2008, 04:36:13 pm
This is fucking ridiculous.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 04, 2008, 04:37:10 pm
i cant take it anymore..
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2008, 04:40:32 pm
My heart can\'t stand watching this....

here goes OT!

Korpikoski (brought up from the wolfpack) is having the game of his life...

Dawes stepping it up...

WOW.

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i cant take it anymore..

You and me and everyone i am watching the game with!

What a game.  I can\'t believe Drury is in the box....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 04, 2008, 04:40:57 pm
im callin a penaltykill>drury game winner.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2008, 04:42:36 pm
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im callin a penaltykill>drury game winner.


I am going with Korpikoski making another miracle goal...and being the hero...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 04, 2008, 05:01:35 pm
I mean, slice it however you want, but the series was lost in the second period of Game 1.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 04, 2008, 05:05:06 pm
Total heartbreak.  

Next year, boys.

Now i begin watching baseball.....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: freddiewaht on May 04, 2008, 05:05:09 pm
tough game
pens got quite a team and deserved to win it.
to me,nothing better than the sportsmanlike shaking of the opponents hand after a hard fought battle.
congrads to the pens.
jagr said he wants to play 4 more years and names the strangers being his first choice.
great season...
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 05, 2008, 07:44:44 am
Well, I stayed up for the entire first OT period, but called it quits before the game ended.

So, onto the conferance finals:

Stars vs. Red Wings - I\'m going O6 on this one.* I was cheering against these two teams in the semis, and would probably still cheer for dallas had they never moved. Also, has anyone else noticed the poor camera positioning in the dallas rink? There are always a few rows of heads infront of the mid-ice camera.

Pens vs. Flyers: LETS GO FLYERS! That\'s really all I have to say about that.

Looking ahead:
Flyers vs Red Wings - The Red Wings will win, but I will be cheering for the flyers.

*O6 is what cool cats call the orginal six.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on May 05, 2008, 08:59:14 am
Well. A decent season for the Rangers I suppose. The weakness during the season (Power Play) came back to haunt them big time during this push for the cup. If only the Rangers were able to convert a power play here and there I think they would still be alive.

I think they need to get a little bigger upfront. And they really need another quality defensemen or two. Sanguenetti (sp ?) is supposed to be pretty good.

I made it to the 3rd OT last night but fell asleep.

Oh well now I can catch up on some TV.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 09, 2008, 12:37:15 pm
So...is anyone going to be watching Flyers vs Penquins tonight?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on May 09, 2008, 05:49:59 pm
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So...is anyone going to be watching Flyers vs Penquins tonight?


I may. Nothing else going on tonight....
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 13, 2008, 04:53:31 pm
I would put money on Detriot vs. Pitt...

Detriot all the way.

No way dallas is coming back, and philly will probably push it to 4 or 6 games, but not win.

As for the Cup, Detriot wins in 6.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on May 13, 2008, 05:20:44 pm
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I would put money on Detriot vs. Pitt...

Detriot all the way.

No way dallas is coming back, and philly will probably push it to 4 or 6 games, but not win.

As for the Cup, Detriot wins in 6.


I think your being too kind to Pitts. If it is Pitt v. Detroit I just dont see them competing at all.

Detroit is putting on a clinic and has been with teams with much better D than pitts. I really think that Philly has been playing awesome considering they have lost 2 defensemen and probably their best player. Pitt has not dominated them IMHO they have made the plays when it counted.

Now Detroit on the other hand is missing Franzen and is still kicking ass. I was really feeling sorry for Dallas. They were really playing with an edge and getting chances and then Detroit would just counter and score.

I am not sure anyone can stop the Detroit train at this point.

If it is Detroit v. Pitt Detroit in 4
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on May 27, 2008, 12:56:07 pm
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Goal: To Make Fans Love Hockey
After Canceling a Season, Bettman Isn\'t
Obsessing About Growth Anymore
By MATTHEW FUTTERMAN
May 23, 2008; Page B1

For National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman, rock bottom arrived long before he watched three of his teams go bankrupt and canceled the 2004-2005 season.

 
It came in 1999, when Mr. Bettman looked at his major moves during his first seven years heading the NHL and saw that they were going to wreck professional hockey in North America. For one thing, the gap was widening between rich and poor teams, especially those in smaller Canadian cities and in the Southern and Western U.S., where Mr. Bettman had pushed the league to expand. Salary growth was also out of control. Worst of all, a once lightning-fast game was slowly turning into a boring grind.

"I watch the game -- 70, 80 games a year," Mr. Bettman, now in his 16th year heading the league, said last week. "You could see what was happening."

As the Pittsburgh Penguins and Detroit Red Wings face off in the Stanley Cup finals, which start Saturday, Mr. Bettman, 55 years old, is that rare top executive who was behind the wheel when his business went over a cliff and now has the opportunity to put it back together. He is doing so by making a classic management choice: Instead of obsessing over growth, he is concentrating on keeping the league\'s existing customers happy.

By certain measures -- notably television ratings -- the National Hockey League still has a long way to go. The average audience for this year\'s playoff games on the cable network Versus -- a second-tier channel a lot of people don\'t know they have -- has grown 50%, but only to about 700,000 households. That is minuscule compared with other major sports.

"The games are invisible," says Rick Gentile, a former executive producer of CBS Sports and the director of the Seton Hall Sports Poll, which tracks fan interest. "The NHL doesn\'t have a national profile, and it desperately needs one."

 
Hockey games on NBC this season garnered a tiny 1.0 rating, according to Nielsen Co., up 11% largely because of the big audience for an outdoor game played in Buffalo, N.Y., on New Year\'s Day. Next season, for the fourth year in a row, the NHL will receive no rights payment for its games from NBC, a unit of General Electric Co., and will instead share advertising revenue with the network. (NBC broadcasts select games during the season and the playoffs, which began in early April. Versus shows many season and playoff games.)

But using the measuring stick most important to Mr. Bettman\'s bosses -- the league\'s 30 owners -- Mr. Bettman is riding a hot streak, restoring value to franchises and raising overall league revenue to a record $2.5 billion from such sources as ticket sales, sponsorships, TV rights, licensed merchandise and concessions. Attendance has hit records in each of the past three years, based on tickets distributed, the NHL says.

Certain teams in the Sun Belt continue to struggle, notably the Phoenix Coyotes, but the days of fire sales -- such as B. Thomas Golisano\'s acquisition of the Buffalo Sabres for $70 million, including tens of millions of assumed debt, in 2003 -- are over. Last fall, Wisconsin businessman Craig Leipold sold the Nashville Predators for $192 million and then turned around and bought the Minnesota Wild for $265 million. Bill Davidson will soon close a deal to sell his Tampa Bay Lightning for $200 million.

"You can\'t talk new capital into chasing bad money," says Dave Checketts, a principal in Sports Capital Partners, a New York investment fund that bought the St. Louis Blues for $150 million in 2006.

Mr. Bettman moves quickly, whether he is striding across his office to pull a book off a shelf or fetching a cookie for his wife on the other side of a Madison Square Garden luxury suite. He grew up in Queens, N.Y., and even in one-on-one conversation, he often speaks as though he is yelling on a street corner.

Mr. Bettman made his name as the bulldog general counsel for the National Basketball Association. Mr. Checketts, the former president of the Utah Jazz, recalls a meeting in 1984 at which Mr. Bettman first met with representatives of a prospective buyer of the team named Adnan Khashoggi, then a local real-estate developer rumored to have other business interests, notably freelance arms dealing.

Mr. Bettman, then 32 years old, lectured the men for nearly an hour, telling them Mr. Khashoggi would have to account for every dollar of income and every asset he owned to gain entrance into the NBA.

"You do whatever you have to do to protect the asset your owners have invested in," Mr. Bettman says.

And that\'s true even if it means shutting down your league for a season. Looking back, Mr. Bettman now sees how the combined effects of his actions those first years created nearly irreparable cracks in the NHL. For example, he helped to broker a labor agreement in 1995 that provided stability but eventually allowed salaries to skyrocket until they were eating up 74% of league revenue.

 
The Pittsburgh Penguins\' Sidney Crosby skates earlier in the playoffs.
He also presided over an expansion, relocating franchises to nontraditional hockey markets like Phoenix, Nashville and South Florida. This cultivated new fans, gave the league a national footprint and brought in $420 million. But there was a downside: Several teams in the South and West and in the league\'s smaller markets started to struggle financially as salaries spiraled, and soon they couldn\'t afford the more skilled, speedy players required for success.

Their only alternative: hiring low-cost, defensive-minded players to flood the center of the ice and slow down the game, emulating the style that helped the New Jersey Devils win three Stanley Cups. Eventually, even the best players appeared to be skating through slush.

In the case of the Penguins, even after superstar Mario Lemieux and financier Ron Burkle pulled the Pittsburgh team out of bankruptcy in 1999, it had to dump expensive stars Jaromir Jagr, Alexei Kovalev and Martin Straka, replacing them with cheaper players. By the 2003-2004 season, attendance had dropped from near-capacity crowds at 17,000-seat Mellon arena to just 11,877 fans a game, and the team was able to win just 23 of its 82 games.

This season, things are better. A $50 million salary cap per team is in place that reflects 55% of the league\'s hockey-related revenue. New rules extend the offensive zones, allow longer passes that produce more breakaways and prohibit even minor clutching and grabbing, allowing young speedsters like Pittsburgh\'s Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin to shine.

"We\'ve finally got everything on track," Mr. Bettman said last week.

But Paul Kelly, executive director of the NHL Players Association, says the league can\'t be considered healthy until franchises that are struggling financially, such as Columbus and Phoenix, improve, and the league gets a better broadcast deal in the U.S.

"Used to be you could find a game on in any bar in Boston," Mr. Kelly says of his hometown. "Now you have to search for it -- or the bartender doesn\'t even know what channel it\'s on."

The responsibility of persuading sports fans that hockey is worth watching again has fallen to John Collins, a 46-year-old former National Football League executive who joined the NHL 18 months ago. He convinced Mr. Bettman to forget about growth and focus instead on getting North America\'s 53 million self-described hockey fans to start acting as though they love the sport.

Hockey is tribal. NHL research shows 50% of NHL fans won\'t watch the finals if their favorite team isn\'t playing. Television ratings for hockey grow just 41% in the playoffs, while baseball\'s grow 400%, and the NBA\'s grow 135%.

Mr. Collins has set out to cultivate the league\'s core with events like the outdoor Winter Classic game, played this year in front of 70,000 fans in the Buffalo snow. Without a presence on ESPN, the country\'s leading sports network, the NHL points fans to highlight and analysis shows on NHL.com. Its marketing message for the playoffs: "The Cup changes everything."

"The question is, how do you build incremental behavior," Mr. Collins says. "To talk about acquiring new fans at this point in our development is almost too much of a challenge."


Wall Street Journal
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: kindm's on May 27, 2008, 03:20:09 pm
You know maybe it would make sense to you know hire Hockey people instead of NBA throw aways and NFL marketing guys.

Bettman ruined the NHL. The expansion killed hockey. It diluted the talent and still does. The only reason they are happy is because there is parity in the league, ie. all the teams suck about the same except maybe 3 or 4 which are a but better.

There are too many teams. They had to change a bunch of rules just to get back to where they were before the trap became the go to style.

They have essentially taken hitting out of the game and fighting is a lost art. there have been a total of like 5 fighting majors in the entire playoffs this year. They need to get rid of the instigator penalty as well so all the cheap shots are under control. Any hockey person would know this / think of these things
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on June 03, 2008, 09:34:12 am
I stayed up through the 2nd overtime.

Holy shit, that was a great game to watch.

I think that the longer this series goes, the better it is for "hockey."

However, they will get trounced in ratings on Thrusday.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 03, 2008, 09:36:38 am
I was told the wnba got a better tv rating than the stanley cup game the other night (not last night, so game 4 I guess?)
NY ratings WNBA .7 & NHL was a .4

oof.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on June 03, 2008, 09:50:43 am
fell asleep in the first OT last night, but that 3rd period was great. Detroit was all over them in the 3rd, the the pens got very lucky at the end.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on June 03, 2008, 09:51:04 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;191739
I was told the wnba got a better tv rating than the stanley cup game the other night (not last night, so game 4 I guess?)
NY ratings WNBA .7 & NHL was a .4

oof.


WNBA advertises on ESPN/ESPN2, and was on (the ads) constantly during the NBA playoffs.

Also, WNBA is on ESPN/ESPN2, so bars will be tuned to that by default on a Monday night. People assume that NBC is drama Monday->Friday.

I got sooo mad at the networks post-strike for not signing back onto hockey. I still haven\'t forgiven them and I still have my firebombs ready.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 03, 2008, 09:56:43 am
espn isn\'t going to go after hockey unless hockey gives them back an offer they like. In the mean time, enjoy vs. :shrug:
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 03, 2008, 10:10:26 am
I made it through the second OT then went to bed. That second OT was probably some of the best goal tending I\'ve seen in a long time. I\'m glad this series didn\'t end last night. Going back to Pittsburgh gives the Penguins a huge momentum swing. If they can manage to score 1 or 2 goals early they should be able to ride that (and the home crowd) back to Detroit for a Game 7.


Quote from: FrankZappa;191743
espn isn\'t going to go after hockey unless hockey gives them back an offer they like. In the mean time, enjoy vs. :shrug:


I know you work for ESPN, so don\'t take this personally, but outside of Baseball Tonight I really can\'t stand that channel. Most of their announcers/analysts are annoying and they run the same bs stories over and over and over. For instance, when Marvin Harrison was questioned in a shooting they broke to that story every 10 minutes...where did that one end up? ESPN has turned into the FoxNews of the sports world. Versus is a much better channel plus I feel the quality of their HD feed looks better than any of the ESPN HD feeds.


Quote from: tyzack;191737
However, they will get trounced in ratings on Thrusday.


Game 6 of the Stanley Cup is on Wednesday, not Thursday. I doubt they would set up the NBA to directly compete with the NHL.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 03, 2008, 10:20:39 am
I stayed up and watched the whole game.   Seriously, I love hockey like this.  So exciting.     I can\'t believe Detroit let this slip through their fingers.   But i am sure they will recover and win the cup tomorrow night.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on June 03, 2008, 10:34:58 am
Quote from: booztravlr;191744


Quote from: FrankZappa;191743
espn isn\'t going to go after hockey unless hockey gives them back an offer they like. In the mean time, enjoy vs. :shrug:


I know you work for ESPN, so don\'t take this personally, but outside of Baseball Tonight I really can\'t stand that channel. Most of their announcers/analysts are annoying and they run the same bs stories over and over and over. For instance, when Marvin Harrison was questioned in a shooting they broke to that story every 10 minutes...where did that one end up? ESPN has turned into the FoxNews of the sports world. Versus is a much better channel plus I feel the quality of their HD feed looks better than any of the ESPN HD feeds.


Quote from: tyzack;191737
However, they will get trounced in ratings on Thrusday.


Game 6 of the Stanley Cup is on Wednesday, not Thursday. I doubt they would set up the NBA to directly compete with the NHL.


Time is an illusion. Therefore my statement stands. But I am glad that I won\'t have to fight for the right to watch hooooooooooockey!

People have ESPN as a name as a generic sports channel in their head. They will not go looking around for other channels (even if it\'s NBC) to find something to watch. The only stumblers you might get on NBC are people looking for The Office reruns, or something.

I will give sports center credit for actually talking about hockey now - I love the Don Cherry interviews. That guy needs to get on Versus/ESPN full time or I need to figure out a way to get CBC. However, I remember watching a full 90 minute sports center some saturday morning in mid-march and the only mention of hockey was a peice about 1h15min in about "the worst hair styles in sports" and they mentioned some guy with a fro from the 70s. That soured my view of ESPN serverly.

As for the actual game; yes it was amazing. I couldn\'t tune away from it. I loved the "Stanely" chants in the 3rd period only to be silenced by the best play in sports (goalie pulled to win/tie an elimination game).

Then the non-stop of the over time, I kept on waiting for people to start "sitting back" and waiting for the other team to make a mistake (4 minute high-sticking...), which is, in my opinion, what normally happens, but those two extra 20s that I watched were anything but that.

People who watched the WNBA should hate themselves for watching that crap instead of the Stanely Cup Finals.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: postom on June 03, 2008, 11:02:33 am
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080603/capt.0334ea1938174131b3852697bc41351a.stanley_cup_penguins_red_wings_hockey_mico124.jpg)

my hero. :)

go pens!

::falls asleep on desk::
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on June 03, 2008, 11:22:20 am
As much as I don\'t care for either of these teams, the championship series for any sport should be on network television if not ESPN.  MLB, NFL and NBA (and I\'m sure MLS) all get network play for their individual championships.  It\'s a slap in the face to hockey.  I know that post-lock out, the ratings have been really low, but unless you generate some sort of public viewing of the sport, it\'s never going to generate any momentum.  On new years, after the outdoor game in Buffalo, people were interested (why have that game on network tv and not the Stanley Cup).  I think that this is the perfect time for hockey to be on network tv, AI and DWTS is over and there really isn\'t much on TV, so people are basically forced to watch baseball, re-runs, cable TV or whatever crap is on network tv (perfect timing for NHL to step in and get some access to these viewers).
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: FrankZappa on June 03, 2008, 11:33:24 am
Quote from: booztravlr;191744
Quote from: FrankZappa;191743
espn isn\'t going to go after hockey unless hockey gives them back an offer they like. In the mean time, enjoy vs. :shrug:


I know you work for ESPN, so don\'t take this personally, but outside of Baseball Tonight I really can\'t stand that channel.


Obviously booztravlr doesn\'t know me very well. rotfl
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: postom on June 03, 2008, 11:34:14 am
Quote from: Yoda;191756
As much as I don\'t care for either of these teams, the championship series for any sport should be on network television if not ESPN.  MLB, NFL and NBA (and I\'m sure MLS) all get network play for their individual championships.  It\'s a slap in the face to hockey.  I know that post-lock out, the ratings have been really low, but unless you generate some sort of public viewing of the sport, it\'s never going to generate any momentum.  On new years, after the outdoor game in Buffalo, people were interested (why have that game on network tv and not the Stanley Cup).  I think that this is the perfect time for hockey to be on network tv, AI and DWTS is over and there really isn\'t much on TV, so people are basically forced to watch baseball, re-runs, cable TV or whatever crap is on network tv (perfect timing for NHL to step in and get some access to these viewers).

i 100% agree with this statement, because i scrambled around for hours trying to find a place that carried versus to watch game 2.  i was at a hotel with a sports bar and i went in to the bar.  

"hi, can you please put on the hockey game?"
"sure, what channel is it on?"
"versus"
"ok what channel is it on?"
"versus"
"huh"
"can i borrow the remote and look for it? (it was busy)"
"sure"

i googled on the phone and looked for sports bars and kept calling and none of them were answering their phones, one closed down, one was not open on memorial day, it just sucked.  and so i missed game 2.  fucking bullshit
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: Yoda on June 03, 2008, 12:00:20 pm
I have versus and I do watch the games, I just think that it\'s ridiculus that this is the only professional sport that is black-balled from network tv for it\'s championship.  I think that Bettman needs to grow a spine and go to the network execs and fight for some air time.
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: tyzack on June 10, 2008, 09:51:30 am
218 posts, 15 pages, not too bad for a good season...

will the draft / off-season moves be discussed in this thread or the 08-09 one?
Title: The 07-08 National Hockey League thread
Post by: SkyePrizm on June 10, 2008, 11:19:38 am
Quote from: tyzack;192521
218 posts, 15 pages, not too bad for a good season...

will the draft / off-season moves be discussed in this thread or the 08-09 one?


I think the 08-09 one, right?