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(02) Mooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2) vs. (05) Over Exposure

ooboo\'s Voodoo (Episode 2)
30 (52.6%)
ver Exposure
27 (47.4%)

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Voting closed: November 18, 2007, 01:15:02 pm

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« Reply #105 on: November 15, 2007, 06:57:17 pm »
The thing is alot of people have stated they would have voted for Mooboo\'s but due to it not being played so much they went with OE. Understand my confusion about what this tourney is about?
It\'s clear Mooboo\'s is the better song just not as popular at the moment.
The problem seems to come from how do we seed this tourney?
Using all the songs and the play in round we had this year with clear rankings established and MP3 links at the beginning of the tourney to help people vote for the better song is what we are using but it does not seem to be working that way and has become something else.
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« Reply #106 on: November 15, 2007, 07:03:41 pm »
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Using all the songs and the play in round we had this year with clear rankings established and MP3 links at the beginning of the tourney to help people vote for the better song is what we are using but it does not seem to be working that way and has become something else.


It seems to me that both of these songs are the "better" songs since they are in the championship round.  Telling people how to vote on this takes away our basic fundamental rights to make our own decision on how we rate these songs.  Which is why, I have not yet voted.  ;)  Some of us like tomatoes, and some of us like tom-ah-toes.
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« Reply #107 on: November 15, 2007, 07:15:33 pm »
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Well I wish it would happen but people are pulling out all the stops like AlZ getting his sister to vote for OE and she could not tell you which song was which if you played them for her. Sad really.


Yup, it was basically Al Z x 2 for this vote.  Completely legal though.
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« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2007, 07:37:13 pm »
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Using all the songs and the play in round we had this year with clear rankings established and MP3 links at the beginning of the tourney to help people vote for the better song is what we are using but it does not seem to be working that way and has become something else.

It seems to me that both of these songs are the "better" songs since they are in the championship round.  Telling people how to vote on this takes away our basic fundamental rights to make our own decision on how we rate these songs.  Which is why, I have not yet voted.  ;)  Some of us like tomatoes, and some of us like tom-ah-toes.
I\'m not telling anyone how to vote only expressing confusion on the change in voting. It starts out as it is configured to work. People vote for songs based on them being better than the other. I merely think this from reading people\'s reasons for voting for songs. It eventually changed to what it is now and not as it started out.
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Well I wish it would happen but people are pulling out all the stops like AlZ getting his sister to vote for OE and she could not tell you which song was which if you played them for her. Sad really.

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Yup, it was basically Al Z x 2 for this vote.  Completely legal though.
Whatever. This is what I mean by this tourney has turned into nothing more than a popularity contest.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 07:39:53 pm by leith »
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« Reply #109 on: November 15, 2007, 07:44:28 pm »
I like Over Exposure and would rather hear it more right now than I would Mooboo\'s. If I was on my death-bed and these were the only two tracks someone beside me had in their pocket and asked, "Which one Cheesecake?" I\'d probably say Mooboo\'s. But this tourney is supposed to breathe and change, it\'d be pointless to not vote within the context of where the songs sit today. In your case I feel like a World Cup format is more ideal. But it\'s yearly. This is the 2007 TOT. So stop whining, OE has had a wonderful year, it\'s hot right now. It\'s Golden State in last year\'s Playoffs while Mooboo\'s is Dallas. Go fix yourself some warm milk and bask in boredom while I piggy-back Baron Davis to the hole and dunk all over Dirk with fresh legs.

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Well I wish it would happen but people are pulling out all the stops like AlZ getting his sister to vote for OE and she could not tell you which song was which if you played them for her. Sad really.


That\'s definitely shady Al.............  Glad you\'re on my team pal!!

No but seriously, I hope OE wins by at least two now. A 1-point victory would be faulty with the over exposure of zurflue\'s vote.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 07:44:28 pm by Gordo »
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« Reply #110 on: November 15, 2007, 07:46:28 pm »
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I like Over Exposure and would rather hear it more right now than I would Mooboo\'s. If I was on my death-bed and these were the only two tracks someone beside me had in their pocket and asked, "Which one Cheesecake?" I\'d probably say Mooboo\'s. But this tourney is supposed to breathe and change, it\'d be pointless to not vote within the context of where the songs sit today. In your case I feel like a World Cup format is more ideal. But it\'s yearly. This is the 2007 TOT. So stop whining, OE has had a wonderful year, it\'s hot right now. It\'s Golden State in last year\'s Playoffs while Mooboo\'s is Dallas. Go fix yourself some warm milk and bask in boredom while I piggy-back Baron Davis to the hole and dunk all over Dirk with fresh legs.


See that\'s what I\'m saying I understand it\'s yearly but the band has new songs each year also which changes the seedings and such. So such as myself vote on that year\'s current batch of songs given to listen to and vote for. Not on which is hotter but which is overall better. Opinions change over the years yes and some may think OE is truly better and if they think it is the better song great but to think a song is better and then not vote for it throws out any reasoning for seeds in the first place.

You do make me laugh though so thanks.
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« Reply #111 on: November 15, 2007, 07:56:11 pm »
But also realize that OE is not just "the chosen song for the year". It, to me, is that good to challenge a song as good as Mooboo\'s. It has the potential to be thee highlight in a show where Mooboo\'s was also played. I\'ve seen them both live on separate occasions, and whether or not my mood was a factor I can\'t measure, but OE left me pulling my hair and laughing in disbelief where Mooboo\'s just had me saying, "That was really cool to hear live, sweet jam". See what I\'m sayin? I understand your point, but gotta\' let you in on why I voted OE.
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« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2007, 08:07:23 pm »
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no mooboos! come back!


Well I wish it would happen but people are pulling out all the stops like AlZ getting his sister to vote for OE and she could not tell you which song was which if you played them for her. Sad really.



ALZ! that is some scandalous shit.
Im sure there is more than one vote like that though.
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« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2007, 08:11:39 pm »
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Just because Mooboo\'s has not been played as often is not a reason to vote for OE. Then it just becomes a popularity contest.

If this isn\'t a popularity contest, then what is it? Unless somebody can show me the definition of "better" when it comes to music, the Tournament of Tunes is and should be a popularity contest.
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« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2007, 08:20:50 pm »
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But also realize that OE is not just "the chosen song for the year". It, to me, is that good to challenge a song as good as Mooboo\'s. It has the potential to be thee highlight in a show where Mooboo\'s was also played. I\'ve seen them both live on separate occasions, and whether or not my mood was a factor I can\'t measure, but OE left me pulling my hair and laughing in disbelief where Mooboo\'s just had me saying, "That was really cool to hear live, sweet jam". See what I\'m sayin? I understand your point, but gotta\' let you in on why I voted OE.

Potential ain\'t shit son.

No really the way you describe it I think you have actually changed your deathbed vote. This reasoning I can understand.
 OE makes you nut and Mooboo\'s makes ya get a bit chubby cool.

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Just because Mooboo\'s has not been played as often is not a reason to vote for OE. Then it just becomes a popularity contest.
If this isn\'t a popularity contest, then what is it? Unless somebody can show me the definition of "better" when it comes to music, the Tournament of Tunes is and should be a popularity contest.

Then why bother seeding in the first place? It\'s where the songs are divided into good and better songs. So right from the start YOU ARE GIVEN A DEFINITION VIA SEEDS.
Why not just have a poll which song do you like the best?

And before anyone gets all crazy just because one song is seeded above another I do not think it should automatically get the vote as some may have surmised from my last post. I merely mean there is a system in place seeding the songs in terms of "better".
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« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2007, 08:21:50 pm »
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ALZ! that is some scandalous shit.


Well, she has been registered on here for a year or two, she just doesn\'t know many of the Breakfast songs.  So naturally I nudged her towards OE.  If I signed someone up just for this vote, it would be grounds for .info sanctions.



sidenote: Mooboo\'s was one of the first songs that really sucked me into PB back in the day.  I remember riding my bike around belting out the lyrics.
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« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2007, 08:22:18 pm »
Because, like, this is so much more funner dooood.
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« Reply #117 on: November 15, 2007, 08:30:57 pm »
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ALZ! that is some scandalous shit.

Well, she has been registered on here for a year or two, she just doesn\'t know many of the Breakfast songs.  So naturally I nudged her towards OE.  If I signed someone up just for this vote, it would be grounds for .info sanctions.



sidenote: Mooboo\'s was one of the first songs that really sucked me into PB back in the day.  I remember riding my bike around belting out the lyrics.

Dude her vote should not count, because you know as well as I do that you told her to vote for OE. You did not ask her to listen to both songs and make an informed decision.
That is where I take issue w/ your action.

sidenote to your sidenote: I really feel sorry for the neighborhood you were riding through.
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« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2007, 09:34:29 pm »
I love how Erika "Sketchika" Zurflueh is a major topic in a hot .info thread.  If only you guys knew the legend of whom you speak.  Nice work DJ Pebbles.

Whoever mentioned the World Cup format, that was hot.  A little pool play before the single eliminations would be totally fun.

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« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2007, 09:39:33 pm »
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I love how Erika "Sketchika" Zurflueh is a major topic in a hot .info thread.  If only you guys knew the legend of whom you speak.  Nice work DJ Pebbles.

Whoever mentioned the World Cup format, that was hot.  A little pool play before the single eliminations would be totally fun.


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