Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on January 29, 2009, 12:20:21 pm
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 12:20:21 pm
2 shows in January. 2 shows scheduled for Feb. and not even back to back. Nothing in March so far.
I know these guys have never been on top of show date announcements but this is just sad to see.
Has Timmy Tour with guests become the defacto way to get Breakfast tunes played?
I mean hell Tim has a shitload of dates but there was no time to book Breakfast gigs?
Like in Feb. he is scheduled at Daniel St. TWICE already.
WHY ARE THOSE NOT BREAKFAST GIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking ridiculous.
Question: How is a band supposed to keep fan interest up without playing shows?
Answer: They don\'t.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2009, 12:26:16 pm
I asked this question in another thread and Adrian\'s response was "whats wrong with a break...i mean realy.time to chill out for a couple of months." I guess that\'s as close to an official band response as your going to get right now.
As for TB vs. Side Project shows, side project wins 19-4.
Timmy - 11 shows Chris - 4 shows Adrian - 1 show TGTB - 2 shows The Bealtes A-Z - 1 show
I\'m not looking to pick an argument with anyone, just adding some stats to Leiths comment above. If the band wants to chill and get back into the groove, that\'s cool with me, as long as NJ gets some love.
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Post by: ellis-d on January 29, 2009, 01:07:15 pm
Ahhh leith, always too keen for your own good, like ade said nothing wrong with a break. Id say after ten years they deserve one Would you rather them force the issue when they need to work some things out and then despise the band and each other? I didn\'t think so
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Post by: freddiewaht on January 29, 2009, 01:24:58 pm
i wish that leith and deblock would get on a plane and never come back..
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2009, 01:31:13 pm
We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: freddiewaht on January 29, 2009, 01:34:34 pm
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We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
theres a shitton of bands out there. u guys should find one that caters to your personal needs,imo.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 01:43:32 pm
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We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
theres a shitton of bands out there. u guys should find one that caters to your personal needs,imo.
Hey Wah STFU. I saw more shows last year than you. I care.
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Post by: psychjosh on January 29, 2009, 01:49:29 pm
They do need a break. They do need to regroup. Maybe absence makes the heart grow fonder?
i think the bottom line is that Jordan can\'t really tour right now unless the band makes money doing it. For that matter, the rst of the guys can\'t really afford to tour if theres no money in it either.
Theres no money in it because not enough fans come to shows..
1 + 1 = 2 No matter how many times they change keyboardists, managers, agents etc... if the fans don\'t fully support the music and show up.. then the band can\'t go broke trying to get to them.
As far as playing more shows at Daniel Street... Just to put shows on the calendar... Can you say "dumbest idea ever"
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Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 01:50:00 pm
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Ahhh leith, always too keen for your own good, like ade said nothing wrong with a break. Id say after ten years they deserve one Would you rather them force the issue when they need to work some things out and then despise the band and each other? I didn\'t think so
As I\'m not hittin\' this site as often now that they announced no more touring so I missed Adrian mentioning a break.
Well that\'s fine, but I would think with the announcement of Jordan rejoining the band they would actually follow that with some shows and capitalize on the excitement that was generated but you\'re right this path is a better choice for them. :rolleyes:
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: freddiewaht on January 29, 2009, 02:02:37 pm
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We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
theres a shitton of bands out there. u guys should find one that caters to your personal needs,imo.
Hey Wah STFU. I saw more shows last year than you. I care.
whats that even matter brah? im glad u seen more shows than me.i really care.no,seriously,i do..really care.really..
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Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2009, 02:11:11 pm
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We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
theres a shitton of bands out there. u guys should find one that caters to your personal needs,imo.
Hey Wah STFU. I saw more shows last year than you. I care.
whats that even matter brah? im glad u seen more shows than me.i really care.no,seriously,i do..really care.really..
So let me get this straight... It doesn\'t matter how many shows you see as long as you enjoy the music and care about the band... Then what was all that shit you gave me about not seeing the band in years... By your logic, I\'m a good fan... Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black...
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Post by: freddiewaht on January 29, 2009, 02:21:34 pm
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We talk about it because TB doesn\'t play in our backyard. I have less to complaign because I moved away from it.
theres a shitton of bands out there. u guys should find one that caters to your personal needs,imo.
Hey Wah STFU. I saw more shows last year than you. I care.
whats that even matter brah? im glad u seen more shows than me.i really care.no,seriously,i do..really care.really..
So let me get this straight... It doesn\'t matter how many shows you see as long as you enjoy the music and care about the band... Then what was all that shit you gave me about not seeing the band in years... By your logic, I\'m a good fan... Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black...
do u see me sitting here and bitching and moaning? no.i see you 2 sitting around bitching and moaning,as per usual.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2009, 02:27:01 pm
And you\'ll continue to read what I write because I don\'t intend to stop... Personally, it\'s good to have a perspective outside of the New Englad area, you know the people that can\'t wait to see The Breakfast come to their neck of the woods, rather than having them in their back yard to pick and choose which show they\'ll go and see.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on January 29, 2009, 03:00:00 pm
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Well that\'s fine, but I would think with the announcement of Jordan rejoining the band they would actually follow that with some shows and capitalize on the excitement that was generated but you\'re right this path is a better choice for them. :rolleyes:
I would have thought this would be a good opportunity for the band to rage frequent shows around the Northeast and get their regional fanbase up to speed as well.
I can\'t complain too much though, as I get to see two shows this weekend, one within walking distance and another about a half hour away :)
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Post by: ds673488 on January 29, 2009, 03:16:11 pm
from dictionary.com:
hobby /ˈhɒbi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hob-ee] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -bies. 1. an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation: Her hobbies include stamp-collecting and woodcarving.
band: /bćnd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [band] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun: a group of instrumentalists playing music of a specialized type: rock band; calypso band; mariachi band.
Id say they are both at this point
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Igziabeher on January 29, 2009, 03:19:02 pm
from my vantage point, it was getting to the point where NYE \'08 could\'ve easily been the last Breakfast show ever. They chose to stick together and tough it out, which I think is admirable. Now they just need some time to come up w/ a gameplan and get their acts together. I really don\'t think its such a bad thing.
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Post by: ds673488 on January 29, 2009, 03:21:59 pm
i agree greg...the whole new years run was probably the best all around ive heard from the band...maybe they are doing some productive things right now...
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Post by: Igziabeher on January 29, 2009, 03:24:22 pm
well, adrian said they were working on getting a new booking agency, which would also account for the lack of announced shows. patience people, when shit falls together, we\'ll be the first to know. its not like their raq or anything.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: simpletwistupdon on January 29, 2009, 03:28:26 pm
Does it really matter if its a band or a hobby right now? I\'m not at all trying to be condescending to anyone that has offered an opinion here. This band has been through a couple of pretty significant periods of change lately. So if they\'ve entered into a bit of a slower period touring, is really that bad if its thats what they need to survive? I\'d rather see them scale back thier road time rather than break up. Someone mentioned something about checking out other bands which is an option. And I understand that us Connecticuter\'s do get to see them more frequently then most... especially lately. Even without the Breakfast though I highly encourage everyone and anyone to check out anything these guys do on the side because it just as enjoyable most times. If seeing them is really that meaningful... then you gotta take what your given for now until they\'re ready to do whatever it is they are going to do for the future.
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Post by: thatguy on January 29, 2009, 03:28:34 pm
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well, adrian said they were working on getting a new booking agency, which would also account for the lack of announced shows. patience people, when shit falls together, we\'ll be the first to know. its not like their raq or anything.
:that:
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Post by: bdfreetuna on January 29, 2009, 03:36:29 pm
If you don\'t think The Breakfast is still a band ... lol... come to Iron Horse tomorrow and Sullys the night after.
Eat words.
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Post by: SlimPickens on January 29, 2009, 03:37:25 pm
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Does it really matter if its a band or a hobby right now? I\'m not at all trying to be condescending to anyone that has offered an opinion here. This band has been through a couple of pretty significant periods of change lately. So if they\'ve entered into a bit of a slower period touring, is really that bad if its thats what they need to survive? I\'d rather see them scale back thier road time rather than break up. Someone mentioned something about checking out other bands which is an option. And I understand that us Connecticuter\'s do get to see them more frequently then most... especially lately. Even without the Breakfast though I highly encourage everyone and anyone to check out anything these guys do on the side because it just as enjoyable most times. If seeing them is really that meaningful... then you gotta take what your given for now until they\'re ready to do whatever it is they are going to do for the future.
Save your breath don. this thread is basically a tantrum. you can bring all the logic in the world to the discussion about why you shouldn\'t put your hand on the stove top, but it\'s not gonna stop the tears.
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Post by: lilblondie on January 29, 2009, 04:10:47 pm
iam down with freddie, thatguy and slim...its always about bitching, moaning and tantrums on this thread..no one is ever happy around here....
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Post by: Igziabeher on January 29, 2009, 04:13:45 pm
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iam down with freddie, thatguy and slim...its always about bitching, moaning and tantrums on this thread..no one is ever happy around here....
no offense, but there are some forces of nature that are beyond your control, one of which is leith\'s constant anger at the direction this band is taking or not taking at all. its best to just stay out of it for your own mental health.
i, on the other hand, have lost all mental health long ago, so i have no issue taking one for the team.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 04:33:52 pm
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Does it really matter if its a band or a hobby right now? I\'m not at all trying to be condescending to anyone that has offered an opinion here. This band has been through a couple of pretty significant periods of change lately. So if they\'ve entered into a bit of a slower period touring, is really that bad if its thats what they need to survive? I\'d rather see them scale back thier road time rather than break up. Someone mentioned something about checking out other bands which is an option. And I understand that us Connecticuter\'s do get to see them more frequently then most... especially lately. Even without the Breakfast though I highly encourage everyone and anyone to check out anything these guys do on the side because it just as enjoyable most times. If seeing them is really that meaningful... then you gotta take what your given for now until they\'re ready to do whatever it is they are going to do for the future.
Save your breath don. this thread is basically a tantrum. you can bring all the logic in the world to the discussion about why you shouldn\'t put your hand on the stove top, but it\'s not gonna stop the tears.
No it\'s not a tantrum it is a valid question. The band was having a rough time of it near the end of 2008. I actually recommended they take a break in a PM to the 3 freaking out before Jordan returned as I thought it would be better than folding. Hell I even pushed for a Trio if that was what it would take to keep the band going.
So I was ecstatic when they got Jordan back into the band.
They followed this with from all reports some of the best Breakfast shows TO DATE!
Then NOTHING!
No announcements on .org or here on .info other than they were no longer going to tour for the immediate future and that was just a post by Adrian in the middle of a thread.
Nothing about a break, nothing about leaving Crescendo(oh wait there was another post by Adrian lost in some thread also), there\'s an old blurb about new management on .org but we all saw how those guys worked out.
So for someone who is on the other side of the country it would be nice to be a bit informed on what is going on. If it means staring threads like this so be it.
I am just boggled why they can\'t play around town at least. Jordan can\'t possibly be working 12 hour shifts 7 days/week. I am positive they could have booked a couple of gigs around his work schedule.
I would think at least playing around home would be happening if they were not touring.
Whatever, enjoy your Kool-Aid kids.
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iam down with freddie, thatguy and slim...its always about bitching, moaning and tantrums on this thread..no one is ever happy around here....
no offense, but there are some forces of nature that are beyond your control, one of which is leith\'s constant anger at the direction this band is taking or not taking at all. its best to just stay out of it for your own mental health.
i, on the other hand, have lost all mental health long ago, so i have no issue taking one for the team.
It\'s not constant. When they are actually being a band and touring for ALL of their fans I have no problems whatsoever.
So with the posts I have seen from Adrian, 2009 promises to be brimming with my anger. Thus my decision to frequent this Kool-Aid site less often as I predicted when I left in July of last year.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on January 29, 2009, 04:42:37 pm
^^ These new year resolutions never seem to pan out...
I\'m feelin\' big things for Breakfast in 09. Give \'em a minute to do whatever they gotta do and chill out. Last I checked they\'re playing two shows this weekend.
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Post by: simpletwistupdon on January 29, 2009, 04:46:28 pm
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Quote from: simpletwistupdon;218076
Does it really matter if its a band or a hobby right now? I\'m not at all trying to be condescending to anyone that has offered an opinion here. This band has been through a couple of pretty significant periods of change lately. So if they\'ve entered into a bit of a slower period touring, is really that bad if its thats what they need to survive? I\'d rather see them scale back thier road time rather than break up. Someone mentioned something about checking out other bands which is an option. And I understand that us Connecticuter\'s do get to see them more frequently then most... especially lately. Even without the Breakfast though I highly encourage everyone and anyone to check out anything these guys do on the side because it just as enjoyable most times. If seeing them is really that meaningful... then you gotta take what your given for now until they\'re ready to do whatever it is they are going to do for the future.
Save your breath don. this thread is basically a tantrum. you can bring all the logic in the world to the discussion about why you shouldn\'t put your hand on the stove top, but it\'s not gonna stop the tears.
no doubt man... I guess I\'m just appreciative for what I have been fortunate to hear.
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Post by: Igziabeher on January 29, 2009, 05:02:53 pm
sounds like someone shit in your cereal. if you want to know so friggen bad, just ask. i don\'t see why its so hard to merely ask what the deal without insulting the band and their entire northeast fanbase. granted, i know, you\'re a dick. but you could at least work on not being a dick for once in your life. since you were the one with the great idea of suggesting to them to take a break, why don\'t you just consider the time being them taking your vastly knowledgeable advice and move on. now someone pass me some fucking kool-aid.
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Post by: Yoda on January 29, 2009, 05:08:21 pm
That\'s a little harsh... I think that Leith wants what\'s best for the band... I also think that he has some industry knowledge that he\'s trying to impress upon the guys... If you actually read his comments, he\'s not insulting the NE fanbase, he\'s actually lobbying for you guys to get more shows for the time being... The thing is, there\'s something to the old out of sight, out of mind saying... Until the band has a large following, I don\'t think that they can afford to be out of sight for too long... That being said, get the rest and then come back and kick all of our asses from coast to coast...
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Post by: Mark on January 29, 2009, 05:13:01 pm
What\'s best for the band is whatever THEY want to do and how it fits in with their lives. We are VERY lucky that they are still together and melting faces as it is.
You want to see them? Get your ass on a plane.
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Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 05:30:28 pm
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You want to see them? Get your ass on a plane.
:finger:
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sounds like someone shit in your cereal. if you want to know so friggen bad, just ask. i don\'t see why its so hard to merely ask what the deal without insulting the band and their entire northeast fanbase. granted, i know, you\'re a dick. but you could at least work on not being a dick for once in your life. since you were the one with the great idea of suggesting to them to take a break, why don\'t you just consider the time being them taking your vastly knowledgeable advice and move on. now someone pass me some fucking kool-aid.
Hey fuckwad. Do you know what thread you\'re posting in?
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Post by: Igziabeher on January 29, 2009, 05:44:05 pm
there\'s asking a simple question and there\'s being a condescending knowitall dick about it.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on January 29, 2009, 05:47:33 pm
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now someone pass me some fucking kool-aid.
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Post by: Lexington on January 29, 2009, 05:56:09 pm
leith, you\'re just pissed becasue the Message is dunzo. I\'m scared for the bitching you must\'ve put your boys through at the end of Maiden Tour \'87
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Post by: derickw on January 29, 2009, 07:34:03 pm
thanks lex. finally something to laugh about in this thread. your the man leith
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Post by: leith on January 29, 2009, 09:02:27 pm
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leith, you\'re just pissed becasue the Message is dunzo. I\'m scared for the bitching you must\'ve put your boys through at the end of Maiden Tour \'87
Dude Chris could easily sing that song so don\'t even get me started.
As for Maiden yeah I was pissed to hear synth shit on Somewhere in Time and then when they added Keys to Seventh Son I was rip shit like you have no idea but they never wrote me back after I bitched so I ate more acid and went to more Dead shows. It always seemed like Jerry would play whatever I wanted to hear and that was pretty cool.
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Post by: galenas on January 29, 2009, 11:08:01 pm
please god don\'t ever make me hear the message ever again.
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Post by: Whineberg on January 30, 2009, 02:18:12 am
I come home from work at 2:00am, and I see this cheerful little thread. Ah, life is good.
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Post by: Mark on January 30, 2009, 11:34:28 am
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please god don\'t ever make me hear the message ever again.
I think you are safe. Funny thing is, the studio version is best one I\'ve heard.
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Post by: Bret on February 17, 2009, 04:24:50 pm
If the boys need a break, they need a break! Don\'t get me wrong, I\'d love to see a bunch of local shows, they\'re cheaper for one, but I don\'t mind the side projects at all. Every one I go to is better than the last... I don\'t even know how it\'s possible sometimes! Any way you look at they\'re keeping the local music scene buzzing around here, I couldn\'t be happier! And Breakfast tunes are great solo acoustic... nobody else could do \'em solo acoustic & come anywhere near what I\'ve heard Tim come up with. Anyway... Sully\'s Breakfast was OFF THE WALL good times!!
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Post by: inthewhitelodge on February 17, 2009, 05:11:15 pm
I\'ve gotten used to checking out maybe 2-4 shows per year for the last two years. I\'ve often felt that the camaraderie of fans transcends whatever gap of time exists between the shows. I think that as long as they play every month, noone should complain, and should try hard to get to the show(s).
The realistic truth of going or being broke hits us all these days. This is really just an example of balancing one\'s needs and wants as compared to the practicality of travel and time costs. I\'m just glad that I\'ve seen them more than 4 times during this past year!
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Post by: leith on February 17, 2009, 06:12:56 pm
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If the boys need a break, they need a break! Don\'t get me wrong, I\'d love to see a bunch of local shows, they\'re cheaper for one, but I don\'t mind the side projects at all. Every one I go to is better than the last... I don\'t even know how it\'s possible sometimes! Any way you look at they\'re keeping the local music scene buzzing around here, I couldn\'t be happier! And Breakfast tunes are great solo acoustic... nobody else could do \'em solo acoustic & come anywhere near what I\'ve heard Tim come up with. Anyway... Sully\'s Breakfast was OFF THE WALL good times!!
:lol: That\'s cool for you but I could not care less about keeping the New Haven local music scene buzzing and I\'m sure there are plenty of Breakfast fans that feel the same.
It just seemed to me that if they decided to not tour at least playing local shows would be an option. Guess not.
I\'m resigned to the fact that they have decided to be a regional band and if I want to see a show I\'ll have to spend the dough to fly across the country. Now with the band not playing many shows it becomes that much harder to plan a trip w/ enough notice to get cheap flights etc.
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Post by: Gfunk on February 17, 2009, 06:26:16 pm
hopefully things pick up this spring>summer
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Post by: Bret on February 17, 2009, 07:34:40 pm
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If the boys need a break, they need a break! Don\'t get me wrong, I\'d love to see a bunch of local shows, they\'re cheaper for one, but I don\'t mind the side projects at all. Every one I go to is better than the last... I don\'t even know how it\'s possible sometimes! Any way you look at they\'re keeping the local music scene buzzing around here, I couldn\'t be happier! And Breakfast tunes are great solo acoustic... nobody else could do \'em solo acoustic & come anywhere near what I\'ve heard Tim come up with. Anyway... Sully\'s Breakfast was OFF THE WALL good times!!
:lol: That\'s cool for you but I could not care less about keeping the New Haven local music scene buzzing and I\'m sure there are plenty of Breakfast fans that feel the same.
It just seemed to me that if they decided to not tour at least playing local shows would be an option. Guess not.
I\'m resigned to the fact that they have decided to be a regional band and if I want to see a show I\'ll have to spend the dough to fly across the country. Now with the band not playing many shows it becomes that much harder to plan a trip w/ enough notice to get cheap flights etc.
I hear ya, it\'s a damn long way from Cali, I may move out west for a while, don\'t know what I\'ll do without the music. It blows that they can\'t afford or don\'t have the time off to get out there right now. Gas, hotels, food, fun, life... it all costs money, I don\'t know what they make per date or any specifics, but it must be expensive to tour, especially in this day & age. I don\'t think they\'ve resigned to being a regional band, they\'ll be touring again most likely (nothing in life is certain). I think they just needed to step back for a minute and re-assess their situation. The bands been through quite a bit in the last few years. I & all the B-fam wants to see \'em out on the road, livin\' the life, getting bigger & bigger (except that I like the prices and knowing there\'ll be room for us all at the show!). Here\'s to them gettin\' back on the road... :chug:
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Post by: leith on March 03, 2009, 01:32:37 pm
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If the boys need a break, they need a break! Don\'t get me wrong, I\'d love to see a bunch of local shows, they\'re cheaper for one, but I don\'t mind the side projects at all. Every one I go to is better than the last... I don\'t even know how it\'s possible sometimes! Any way you look at they\'re keeping the local music scene buzzing around here, I couldn\'t be happier! And Breakfast tunes are great solo acoustic... nobody else could do \'em solo acoustic & come anywhere near what I\'ve heard Tim come up with. Anyway... Sully\'s Breakfast was OFF THE WALL good times!!
:lol: That\'s cool for you but I could not care less about keeping the New Haven local music scene buzzing and I\'m sure there are plenty of Breakfast fans that feel the same.
It just seemed to me that if they decided to not tour at least playing local shows would be an option. Guess not.
I\'m resigned to the fact that they have decided to be a regional band and if I want to see a show I\'ll have to spend the dough to fly across the country. Now with the band not playing many shows it becomes that much harder to plan a trip w/ enough notice to get cheap flights etc.
I hear ya, it\'s a damn long way from Cali, I may move out west for a while, don\'t know what I\'ll do without the music. It blows that they can\'t afford or don\'t have the time off to get out there right now. Gas, hotels, food, fun, life... it all costs money, I don\'t know what they make per date or any specifics, but it must be expensive to tour, especially in this day & age. I don\'t think they\'ve resigned to being a regional band, they\'ll be touring again most likely (nothing in life is certain). I think they just needed to step back for a minute and re-assess their situation. The bands been through quite a bit in the last few years. I & all the B-fam wants to see \'em out on the road, livin\' the life, getting bigger & bigger (except that I like the prices and knowing there\'ll be room for us all at the show!). Here\'s to them gettin\' back on the road... :chug:
To the bolded points. They are a regional band at least for this year. Adrian posted such awhile ago.
As for them getting bigger. This is as big as this band is getting. They are not a viable touring entity anymore and in this scene if you don\'t tour you don\'t make it.
I have thought for a long time that the band would become a Max Creek type of band that will play for decades but only in their home region. They will have all sorts of local respect and the musicians in the national scene will love them but that\'s about it.
That can be seen as success as they will be creating music for years to come but for many it will be a disappointment as this band should of been heard by so many more people.
Of course things could always change drastically should someone win the lotto, or a big band picked them up as an opener, they change their minds and hit the road for months at a time(:lol: yeah right).
Crazier things have happened.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 03, 2009, 03:58:35 pm
quite honestly, success in the music business is in the process of being majorly redefined. leith, you should of course know this to be true. given the lack of any sort of viable "formula", i wouldn\'t put anything out of the question. everyone\'s hurting right now and trying to figure out how to stay afloat. nobody\'s got a roadmap for the next couple years, let alone the remainder of their musical careers. i\'m going through a lot of the same things, and i\'m watching 99% of my collegues going through these struggles as well. we\'ll all come out on the other side, but in the mean time, i don\'t see any reason to stop or reduce our support of the band where we can. i mean why do we go see them? because they\'re great and we love to hear them play. as long as that hasn\'t changed, i say just focus on gratitude for the opportunities we DO have to hear their music as opposed to dwelling on perceived lack. focus on lack brings more lack. focus on abundance attracts more abundance.
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Post by: stublatt on March 03, 2009, 05:29:12 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;221707
quite honestly, success in the music business is in the process of being majorly redefined. leith, you should of course know this to be true. given the lack of any sort of viable "formula", i wouldn\'t put anything out of the question. everyone\'s hurting right now and trying to figure out how to stay afloat. nobody\'s got a roadmap for the next couple years, let alone the remainder of their musical careers.
Uncle Butch Trucks has the answer - maybe - and it is:
http://www.moogis.com
Everyone and anyone that is seriously interested in the survival and the success of incredible bands like The Breakfast should check out what Butch\'s thoughts and vision are for the future of music - he makes a lot of sense, and has obviously spent a lot of time thinking about how to best utilize the incredible technology that is available to all of us. When you all get a free minute or 10, PLEASE check out this recent interview:
A. yes, I have signed up, and currently have Moogis (and, like Seinfeld\'s ex, they are \'real\' and they are \'spectacular\'!)
B. no, I\'m not on Butch\'s payroll. But here\'s the bottom line: It absolutely benefits me in the long run if moogis.com becomes the success that Butch envisions. Being a huge ABB fan, yes, having the entire 40th annual Beacon run available on my big screen - whenever the fuck I want to watch any of the shows - in the next 6 MONTHS - was a huge factor in my decision to pluck down what was the equivilent of 1 prime orchestra seat in order to get this service. But what is WAY MORE IMPORTANT in all this is the future success of small to mid-size jam bands throughout this country. Please read about Butch\'s vision on how this technology will help bands like The Breakfast, moe., String Cheese, Tea Leaf, Umphrey\'s, George Lesiw, D Trucks, Govt Mule, Hubinger St, Electric Mayhem, etc not just survive, but thrive in an otherwise struggling economy. Just read any of the posts on .info, and you can\'t help but feel the passion that you all have - and the one thing that drives the passion, at least on this site, is the incredible, improvisational, creative musical force of Timmy, Adrian, Dangles, Jordan, Matt, Ronnie, and everyone else that has contributed over the last 10 years. Everyone talks about how the music industry, as a whole, really is in a hole! Commercial radio is a complete waste of time! Internet radio is cool, but no one really knows how long the Pandoras of the net can actually survive. Sirius/XM is cool, but it too has it limitations, can itself be stale at times, and is barely still alive (fingers crossed, though). Bottom line - serious lack of quality sources for our jam band entertainment.
Please at least read about moogis - learn about Butch\'s vision - and consider getting in on something that could really make a difference (imagine having hi def cameras permanently set up at Toads - to check out any band - any time - in the comfort of your very own home theater). NICE!
BTW - 99% sure Clapton sitting in with ABB on both 3/19 and 3/20!!!
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 03, 2009, 06:21:14 pm
Things like this are great to see and are a step in the right direction, but still haven\'t answered the question of how these artists can get enough money in their pockets to keep doing what they\'re doing... So as great as steps like these are, I think it\'s a little much to call another Myspace/Youtube spinoff "The Answer"... Not knocking it, just saying (to quote Tarantino) "Let\'s not start sucking each other\'s dicks just yet".
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Post by: kartoon42 on March 04, 2009, 07:46:05 pm
Quote from: Mark;218099
What\'s best for the band is whatever THEY want to do and how it fits in with their lives. We are VERY lucky that they are still together and melting faces as it is.
You want to see them? Get your ass on a plane.
:that:
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Post by: spance on March 08, 2009, 09:48:26 am
this band will never die. And as long as they keep it real and stay true to what they originally set out to do...WHICH IS FUCK YOUR FACE everytime they play then things will work out. Patience is a motherfucker...I know, i\'ve just spent two long nasty weeks going through withdrawls from over a year of oxy abuse...i\'ve probably slept 7 hours in 7 days but you know what...this band\'s music is slowly getting me through it (and slayer for some reason)...I have an mp3 player with 1/19/01, 1/26/01 and 3/8/01 in it and that\'s all i need to get me by right now, I don\'t even want to smoke cheeba anymore and this is coming from someone who has grown and bred it for the last 17 years, that\'s more then half of my life...but two weeks ago I was in a state of mind that I wouldn\'t wish on my worst enemy, I was so fucked up that a friend from Cali had to tell me that Jordan was back with the band...thinking back and remembering the times I spent with this band and how much fun it was to be at a PB/TB show, helping unload and load the trailor or sit at the merch table for them...I can\'t describe this feeling so all i\'m gonna say is this, strange shit is happening and it\'s all been good. I want more then anything for these guys to make enough money so they and their families can live comfortably...not become rich assholes (which I doubt they\'d ever be) and start mailing in their performances ala Phish in the late 90\'s...and be able to just do what they do best...have fun playing the sweetest sounding music these ears have ever heard...since 60\'s/70\'s Dead of course. But hey...that\'s just my opinion.
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Post by: cannontrip on March 08, 2009, 06:02:30 pm
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
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Post by: skalnbyc on March 08, 2009, 06:09:15 pm
Quote from: cannontrip;222330
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
Breakfast should apply for economic stimulus funds. With all the bogus pet projects that are going to get cash, might as well include our boys in the wealth.
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Post by: derickw on March 08, 2009, 09:23:03 pm
Quote from: spance;222309
this band will never die. And as long as they keep it real and stay true to what they originally set out to do...WHICH IS FUCK YOUR FACE everytime they play then things will work out. Patience is a motherfucker...I know, i\'ve just spent two long nasty weeks going through withdrawls from over a year of oxy abuse...i\'ve probably slept 7 hours in 7 days but you know what...this band\'s music is slowly getting me through it (and slayer for some reason)...I have an mp3 player with 1/19/01, 1/26/01 and 3/8/01 in it and that\'s all i need to get me by right now, I don\'t even want to smoke cheeba anymore and this is coming from someone who has grown and bred it for the last 17 years, that\'s more then half of my life...but two weeks ago I was in a state of mind that I wouldn\'t wish on my worst enemy, I was so fucked up that a friend from Cali had to tell me that Jordan was back with the band...thinking back and remembering the times I spent with this band and how much fun it was to be at a PB/TB show, helping unload and load the trailor or sit at the merch table for them...I can\'t describe this feeling so all i\'m gonna say is this, strange shit is happening and it\'s all been good. I want more then anything for these guys to make enough money so they and their families can live comfortably...not become rich assholes (which I doubt they\'d ever be) and start mailing in their performances ala Phish in the late 90\'s...and be able to just do what they do best...have fun playing the sweetest sounding music these ears have ever heard...since 60\'s/70\'s Dead of course. But hey...that\'s just my opinion.
i agree 100%. good luck with everything man
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Post by: spance on March 09, 2009, 09:14:33 am
thanks ren...without sounding like a complete tool (which i\'m sure I already have), the boys, including Ron, gave me something to live for again...my life. It may seem insignificant to most but when all you want to do is go to sleep and not wake up again and then something in YOUR OWN MIND clicks and tells you to STOP and all you want to do from there is listen to your favorite band again...i\'d say that\'s pretty special.
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Post by: zuke583 on March 09, 2009, 10:47:22 am
hey just found an snl skit all about leith
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Post by: bdfreetuna on March 09, 2009, 01:09:40 pm
Congrats on kickin them dirty op8s Spence. Keep it up! :)
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Post by: SlimPickens on March 09, 2009, 01:50:52 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;222331
Quote from: cannontrip;222330
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
Breakfast should apply for economic stimulus funds. With all the bogus pet projects that are going to get cash, might as well include our boys in the wealth.
Larry Flynt made news back in February saying that if banks and car industries were entitled to economic bailout, why shouldn\'t his industry. The Breakfast shoud should jump on his coat tails. They can be part of the 2009 "Pleasure Stimulus Package"
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 09, 2009, 02:01:25 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens;222399
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;222331
Quote from: cannontrip;222330
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
Breakfast should apply for economic stimulus funds. With all the bogus pet projects that are going to get cash, might as well include our boys in the wealth.
Larry Flynt made news back in February saying that if banks and car industries were entitled to economic bailout, why shouldn\'t his industry. The Breakfast shoud should jump on his coat tails. They can be part of the 2009 "Pleasure Stimulus Package"
This how I refer to my cock. Come on, you knew someone would say it
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Post by: SlimPickens on March 09, 2009, 03:15:40 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;222401
Quote from: SlimPickens;222399
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;222331
Quote from: cannontrip;222330
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
Breakfast should apply for economic stimulus funds. With all the bogus pet projects that are going to get cash, might as well include our boys in the wealth.
Larry Flynt made news back in February saying that if banks and car industries were entitled to economic bailout, why shouldn\'t his industry. The Breakfast shoud should jump on his coat tails. They can be part of the 2009 "Pleasure Stimulus Package"
This how I refer to my cock. Come on, you knew someone would say it
My statement was worded as bait, a setup to see who would supply the punchline.
I figured it would be Todd.
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 09, 2009, 05:34:47 pm
Todd\'s been a little absent lately. Figured I\'d pick up the slack.
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Post by: Todd on March 10, 2009, 12:48:51 am
Quote from: SlimPickens;222402
Quote from: wildcoyote;222401
Quote from: SlimPickens;222399
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;222331
Quote from: cannontrip;222330
TPB music is indispensable, especially in these times. If money issues threaten a premature ending to this band I\'ll rob a bank. :wave:
Breakfast should apply for economic stimulus funds. With all the bogus pet projects that are going to get cash, might as well include our boys in the wealth.
Larry Flynt made news back in February saying that if banks and car industries were entitled to economic bailout, why shouldn\'t his industry. The Breakfast shoud should jump on his coat tails. They can be part of the 2009 "Pleasure Stimulus Package"
This how I refer to my cock. Come on, you knew someone would say it
My statement was worded as bait, a setup to see who would supply the punchline.
I figured it would be Todd.
Quote from: wildcoyote;222419
Todd\'s been a little absent lately. Figured I\'d pick up the slack.
Silly nOObs, old men don\'t get baited that easily...
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Post by: Yoda on March 25, 2009, 09:29:59 am
I\'m going to ask a stupid question and I\'ll take all the critism if people want to throw it my way...
Earlier in the year, I asked why there were so few TB shows and so many side project shows and Adrian said that they were taking a little breather at the beginning of the year. Well it\'s not coming up on the end of the 1st quater and with roughly 10 TB shows (give or take 1), let\'s chalk that up to the breather. I guess that I was a little concerned that Tim announced something like 20 side project/solo gigs in April and May yesterday and there\'s only 5 TB gigs on the schedule for the remainder of the year... I know that the boys need to earn their daily bread, but what would it hurt to turn a couple of those solo gigs into TB shows?
This isn\'t me griping about where they play; I\'m just concerned that there\'s going to be a lot of out-of-sight/out-of-mind going on with fans that don\'t live in CT and don\'t get to go to side project shows. I personally feel that Phish coming back is going to hurt the band because fringe fans are going to choose Phish first and to a lesser degree The Dead will have somewhat of the same effect.
Why not contact Max from Uncle Sammy and see if he can work TB into an opening slot for PL&F or at least a sit-in so that Tim, Adrian, Jordan or Chris will be visible to the community that would be most likely to support TB.
This band is good; this band is talented; this band should not be ignorned; this band should be selling out the clubs they play in. But unless they get out there and are visible, it\'s not going to happen.
Tim, Adrian, Jordan and Chris - this post is not a knock on you guys; it\'s actually a plea to keep moving forward however you can...
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Post by: NickNels on March 25, 2009, 09:35:26 am
Quote from: Yoda;224103
This isn\'t me griping about where they play; I\'m just concerned that there\'s going to be a lot of out-of-sight/out-of-mind going on with fans that don\'t live in CT and don\'t get to go to side project shows. I personally feel that Phish coming back is going to hurt the band because fringe fans are going to choose Phish first and to a lesser degree The Dead will have somewhat of the same effect.
I love the Breakfast, but they don\'t play in the same space as Phish or the Dead. Their return will have no negative effect on the band, in fact it will only be a positive if the B\'fast can score some afterparty gigs.
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Post by: Yoda on March 25, 2009, 09:56:58 am
Quote from: NickNels;224104
Quote from: Yoda;224103
This isn\'t me griping about where they play; I\'m just concerned that there\'s going to be a lot of out-of-sight/out-of-mind going on with fans that don\'t live in CT and don\'t get to go to side project shows. I personally feel that Phish coming back is going to hurt the band because fringe fans are going to choose Phish first and to a lesser degree The Dead will have somewhat of the same effect.
I love the Breakfast, but they don\'t play in the same space as Phish or the Dead. Their return will have no negative effect on the band, in fact it will only be a positive if the B\'fast can score some afterparty gigs.
I disagree with you. When Phish took a break after Big Cypress, a lot of local fans that were on the Phish bus got on the TB bus. My point is that there are fans that will choose to get back on tour with Phish rather than go to a TB show; the fringe fan. The people on this site are hard-core fans and most will stay where they are, but don\'t be surprised if some take a break from TB.
My point was that these guys need to be visible to be relevant and continue to win over new fans. 2-4 shows a months at the same venue or region will grow the fan-base somewhat, but not to the potential of what these guys can offer.
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Post by: NickNels on March 25, 2009, 10:20:41 am
Quote from: Yoda;224105
Quote from: NickNels;224104
Quote from: Yoda;224103
This isn\'t me griping about where they play; I\'m just concerned that there\'s going to be a lot of out-of-sight/out-of-mind going on with fans that don\'t live in CT and don\'t get to go to side project shows. I personally feel that Phish coming back is going to hurt the band because fringe fans are going to choose Phish first and to a lesser degree The Dead will have somewhat of the same effect.
I love the Breakfast, but they don\'t play in the same space as Phish or the Dead. Their return will have no negative effect on the band, in fact it will only be a positive if the B\'fast can score some afterparty gigs.
I disagree with you. When Phish took a break after Big Cypress, a lot of local fans that were on the Phish bus got on the TB bus. My point is that there are fans that will choose to get back on tour with Phish rather than go to a TB show; the fringe fan. The people on this site are hard-core fans and most will stay where they are, but don\'t be surprised if some take a break from TB.
My point was that these guys need to be visible to be relevant and continue to win over new fans. 2-4 shows a months at the same venue or region will grow the fan-base somewhat, but not to the potential of what these guys can offer.
I hate to say it, but it\'s not like people are coming out to see shows as it is. The hardcore fans are always going to be there and the fringe fans are going to go when it\'s convenient.
I\'ll be honest, if Phish is playing on the same day in the same region as B\'fast I\'m going to Phish, but other than that I will see the B\'fast as frequently in the future as I am now. Phish is not going to play more than 50-60 shows a year (max). I don\'t think their "tours" are going to be long enough to sustain the entourage they had back in the \'90s. The Breakfast isn\'t playing much more than 70-80 shows a year as it is now...hardly enough to grow or even sustain their attendance numbers as it is. You can\'t lose what you don\'t have. I think whatever surge the B\'fast saw when Phish originally broke up is long since gone. If I were the B\'fast I wouldn\'t worry about losing the fans, all my efforts would go towards gaining new ones.
I think the economy, unemployment, and the lack of discretionary income will effect a band like the B\'fast much more than PHish or any other band.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on March 25, 2009, 10:55:11 am
Quote from: NickNels;224111
I think the economy, unemployment, and the lack of discretionary income will effect a band like the B\'fast much more than PHish or any other band.
Wouldn\'t the bad economy help The Breakfast? I mean, people TRULY hard up for cash who want to see good live music are more likely to pay $10-$15 at a door and stay local, rather than $50-$100 (sometimes even more) to travel around.... just my thought. I think right now everyone is in such a Phish Craze...that they are throwing money at them. But...that won\'t last forever....the economy is going to get worse.
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Post by: Spacey on March 25, 2009, 10:56:45 am
The answer is simple.
The core fan base is too old.
Cater to a younger fan base.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on March 25, 2009, 11:00:08 am
Quote from: Spacey;224115
The answer is simple.
The core fan base is too old.
Cater to a younger fan base.
I think i\'ve said that before. With all these local colleges around here,where is the promotion? We as the old fart fans need to get off our arses. I seriously would flyer the shit out of any of those colleges....scsu, ccsu, albertus, qu, fu, yale, unh, whatever... just get me the materials and maybe a lackey to help me.
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Post by: jking on March 25, 2009, 11:07:32 am
Quote
I\'m just concerned that there\'s going to be a lot of out-of-sight/out-of-mind going on with fans that don\'t live in CT and don\'t get to go to side project shows.
not to be a dick, but the band has basically ignored the vast majority of the country for years.... i mean, you bitch about new jersey shows, which makes sense since that\'s not very far away from ct, but they haven\'t played the entire mid-atlantic in years, haven\'t hit the southeast in even longer, southern midwest and most of the plains i don\'t think has been touched in ten or more years, pacific northwest in pretty much the same (and even if my numbers are off some, the sentiment in those regions is that its been forever since they\'ve played there).
at this point it may not be a bad idea to power down for a bit and try to come back with renewed gusto next year. they can\'t tour, and there\'s nothing they can do to improve their nationwide situation until they can, so why not give them a chance to gather resources, energy, songs and will??
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 25, 2009, 11:52:40 am
all of this conversation is useless without knowing the individual and collective goals of tim, adrian, jordan and chris. if they can get a decent turnout to places like the field and other comparable venues, and get other decent paying gigs on the side, that\'s a great way to support one\'s self (and in some cases, a family) by playing music. getting in a van and touring the country sounds great to the fan, but in actuality, it\'s a big investment that is full of risks, and in all honesty, really unlikely to pay off. we all want the band to be huge, but the question is, do they want the band to be huge, and if so, are they willing and able to do what it would take to (possibly/improbably) get there? this is a question of what the guys want before it\'s a question of how. we all love to act as armchair managers, myself included, but that\'s all bupkis without knowing what THE BAND wants. and honestly, the guys themselves may not even know the answer to that question. if they want to enlist our help, they\'ll ask for it. in the meantime, sure it\'s fun for us to do the armchair manager thing, but i think we should all keep these points in mind while we do so.
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 25, 2009, 11:53:43 am
21ish kid @ Lotus last night- "The Breakfast? Never heard of them. Cool name though."
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Post by: Vassillios on March 25, 2009, 12:00:25 pm
me - "Lotus? yeah, i\'ve heard \'em. they suck."
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Post by: Yoda on March 25, 2009, 12:03:57 pm
I think that the point is that the kid at Lotus\' show speak volumes...
That being said, the band needs to do what the band needs to do. I think the part of the problem is that the fanbase is so closely intertwined with the band that the line between fan and band gets blurred and that\'s why we feel so strongly about what and how these guys are doing.
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Post by: NickNels on March 25, 2009, 12:09:35 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;224114
Quote from: NickNels;224111
I think the economy, unemployment, and the lack of discretionary income will effect a band like the B\'fast much more than PHish or any other band.
Wouldn\'t the bad economy help The Breakfast? I mean, people TRULY hard up for cash who want to see good live music are more likely to pay $10-$15 at a door and stay local, rather than $50-$100 (sometimes even more) to travel around.... just my thought. I think right now everyone is in such a Phish Craze...that they are throwing money at them. But...that won\'t last forever....the economy is going to get worse.
If the Breakfast was an obsession band or had a large and hungry fanbase I would say Yes, but that is not the case. I\'ll use myself as an example. Whenever the B\'fast is close to home and convenient I\'ll go. I don\'t even think about ticket cost. If the B\'fast is playing a little out of the way though, I probably won\'t be there. THis includes shows like Hartford, Woosta\', Southbridge, etc...In my experience it\'s not the cost of the ticket, it is everything else that goes along with seeing a show. Miles on the car, gas money, drinks, party favors, etc...
Now if Phish or the Disco Biscuits were to play a show within 1 or 2 hours of my house I would be there in a second, not even think twice. Basically when I think about B\'fast shows, in my head it just seems like a night out, while Phish/Biscuits are more like an experience. Again, I love the B\'fast, but this is how i feel at this stage of the game. They need to start doing something exciting to get my commitment level up. THe first step would be playing more shows and touring...just like every other band. They are not exempt from the rules. The only band in this scene getting more popular by not playing any shows is Phish.
Quote from: Jim Cobb;224123
all of this conversation is useless without knowing the individual and collective goals of tim, adrian, jordan and chris. if they can get a decent turnout to places like the field and other comparable venues, and get other decent paying gigs on the side, that\'s a great way to support one\'s self (and in some cases, a family) by playing music. getting in a van and touring the country sounds great to the fan, but in actuality, it\'s a big investment that is full of risks, and in all honesty, really unlikely to pay off. we all want the band to be huge, but the question is, do they want the band to be huge, and if so, are they willing and able to do what it would take to (possibly/improbably) get there? this is a question of what the guys want before it\'s a question of how. we all love to act as armchair managers, myself included, but that\'s all bupkis without knowing what THE BAND wants. and honestly, the guys themselves may not even know the answer to that question. if they want to enlist our help, they\'ll ask for it. in the meantime, sure it\'s fun for us to do the armchair manager thing, but i think we should all keep these points in mind while we do so.
I agree with you Jim. At this point they seem more content to play as the Breakfast to pay bills vs. live/tour like Rockstars. This is fine if that\'s what they want to do. Maybe this will change and maybe it won\'t...we have to leave it up to the band. Whatever is best for them.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Vassillios on March 25, 2009, 12:14:06 pm
i prob shouldn\'t talk bc i don\'t go to enough bfast shows, but i prefer them (any band actually) in smaller venues, where the setting is more intimate. going to the big shows can be fun once in a while, but its too much of a hassle. i guess im getting older. but i\'m all about going to the local bar and checking out a band that i\'ve never heard of. i\'m a venture capitalist when it comes to music... seeking out the new hot shit.
in terms of the bfast, i\'m sure their dream is to make it big, but at this point prob unrealistic. as a fan that\'s cool with me bc they\'re sticking around the northeast where we can all seflishly see them (i promise once i move to a better location i\'ll go to more shows.) and smaller venues are just more fun. it\'s basically like raging with the band on stage, instead of having fences and security guards blocking the way. it would be cool to see phish, but i honestly don\'t even care that much.
new music=making the industry successful.
the bfast=new to most people
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 25, 2009, 01:09:01 pm
dont get me wrong. my opinion is that the breakfast have huge potential to make really big waves in the ever changing music industry. it\'s going to take a lot of innovative ideas and a whole lot of doing things differently than everyone else. everyone else isn\'t making money right now, and shitting themselves trying to figure out how to make money using the old techniques that dont work... isn\'t the definition of insanity doing the same things over and over expecting different results?
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Gfunk on March 25, 2009, 02:43:53 pm
this thread is bringin\' me down.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on March 25, 2009, 03:09:40 pm
Seriously I almost posted this thread in the what grinds your gears thread.
Long live The Breakfast!
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 25, 2009, 03:33:21 pm
hey look... no one\'s trying to scam anyone here, man....
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Post by: ds673488 on March 25, 2009, 03:34:57 pm
look at all this litter, maannnnn
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Post by: peaches626 on March 25, 2009, 04:26:34 pm
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 25, 2009, 04:37:43 pm
nobody forced you guys to read this thread.
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Post by: galenas on March 25, 2009, 06:19:55 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;224175
Seriously I almost posted this thread in the what grinds your gears thread.
Long live The Breakfast!
:lol:
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Gfunk on March 25, 2009, 11:28:55 pm
some good convo goin on in here, it just makes me a little sad fer some reason.
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Post by: sąikidélik on March 26, 2009, 02:34:15 am
i def haven\'t read enough of this thread yet but if going college to college to get gigs is what it takes, then ill go do that. the only issue is were fucked in may.
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Post by: SkyePrizm on March 26, 2009, 04:51:21 am
Quote from: sąikidélik;224230
i def haven\'t read enough of this thread yet but if going college to college to get gigs is what it takes, then ill go do that. the only issue is were fucked in may.
True. Flyering colleges only works like late august to may. but if we organize in the summer and stick to a game plan, we\'ll be ready to dominate in the fall.
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Post by: tyzack on March 26, 2009, 07:27:45 am
I have been listening to the breakfast recently with an ear to "what they sound like" in comparison to the rest of whats out there.
Perhaps my biggest oversight is that I comparing them to music I listen to, not nessacrily that the rest of the jam scene (compitition).
I thought this when I started listening to them, and I still think this now; nobody else does what they do.
That has to count for something.
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Post by: Yoda on March 26, 2009, 08:41:59 am
Quote from: tyzack;224232
I thought this when I started listening to them, and I still think this now; nobody else does what they do.
That\'s really a loaded comment. It takes a whole bunch of things and stars to allign to really succed, but there are things that you can control:
1. Talent (they have it; no question about it) 2. Management (it\'s there, but I\'m not sure how much management is working for them) 3. Booking Agency (same deal as management) 4. PR/Promotions (there\'s really a lack of this right now) 5. Fans (there\'s a good number of fans in small pockets across the country and one across the pond) 6. Buzz on the street (it was there, but it really isn\'t there right now)
These guys have what it takes to succeed talent-wise. Maybe it wasn\'t a good idea to go with the comfortable Management/Booking company. There\'s tons of cover bands that work for talent agencies that get gigs booked every weekend throughout the year. I worked with a guy who did this on the weekend and I went to HS with a guy who\'s still doing this and they get PAID. I\'m not saying that they should become a cover band; that\'s the last thing I would want, but it might not be a bad idea to have a conversation with one of these agencies; they obviously have an in with all the local venues and clubs. PB/TB has been pretty much been playing the same places for more than 10 years; I\'m not saying ignore CT/Mass/Upstate/NYC, but try and get gigs in some new places. Playing to the same people will only get you so far; increasing the gigs and playing to more people will only get you out in front of more faces and isn\'t that what ultimately you want to do; to grow the brand (TB)?
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Post by: leith on March 26, 2009, 11:47:56 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;224124
21ish kid @ Lotus last night- "The Breakfast? Never heard of them. Cool name though."
I call nannies on this part.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: tyzack on March 27, 2009, 07:36:51 am
Quote from: leith;224351
Quote from: wildcoyote;224124
21ish kid @ Lotus last night- "The Breakfast? Never heard of them. Cool name though."
I call nannies on this part.
Lotus like the band?
Something tells me that there is not much sharing of fans between bands that are famous for 30 second and 30 minute songs...
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Post by: psychjosh on March 27, 2009, 07:51:27 am
Quote from: Yoda;224240
Quote from: tyzack;224232
I thought this when I started listening to them, and I still think this now; nobody else does what they do.
That\'s really a loaded comment. It takes a whole bunch of things and stars to allign to really succed, but there are things that you can control:
1. Talent (they have it; no question about it) 2. Management (it\'s there, but I\'m not sure how much management is working for them) 3. Booking Agency (same deal as management) 4. PR/Promotions (there\'s really a lack of this right now) 5. Fans (there\'s a good number of fans in small pockets across the country and one across the pond) 6. Buzz on the street (it was there, but it really isn\'t there right now)
These guys have what it takes to succeed talent-wise. Maybe it wasn\'t a good idea to go with the comfortable Management/Booking company. There\'s tons of cover bands that work for talent agencies that get gigs booked every weekend throughout the year. I worked with a guy who did this on the weekend and I went to HS with a guy who\'s still doing this and they get PAID. I\'m not saying that they should become a cover band; that\'s the last thing I would want, but it might not be a bad idea to have a conversation with one of these agencies; they obviously have an in with all the local venues and clubs. PB/TB has been pretty much been playing the same places for more than 10 years; I\'m not saying ignore CT/Mass/Upstate/NYC, but try and get gigs in some new places. Playing to the same people will only get you so far; increasing the gigs and playing to more people will only get you out in front of more faces and isn\'t that what ultimately you want to do; to grow the brand (TB)?
COVER BANDS get paid because they play Free Bird in places like Christopher Martins.. It\'s EASY to book a fun cover band. Those agencies won\'t do JACK SHIT for this band. Maybe Tim should find that agent for his solo stuff. It\'s really a catch 22.. Like a loan.. you cant get one if you have no money but if you had money you would not need one.. A credible agency won\'t take the band until they are consistently putting up numbers and showing growth.. but they need that agent to accomplish that task.. The MAIN reason I had any success with this band is because I LOVED the band and music and took it hugely personally. 100% of my focus was on their career. We .. I should say they need a young agent at a GOOD agency to fall in love with the music. As far as promo grass roots and PR... that\'s been an uphill battle as long as I can remember. It is refreshing to hear a few people still wanting to help these guys but it\'s gonna take a lot more. Touring is another story... Jordans back and I think they sound as good as ever... but lets face one fact.. if they cannot tour.. they cannot grow. Maybe by focusing on the North East they will grow the regional numbers that will command more $$$ and eventually lead to expansion... AGAIN.. It just seems like trying to re-invent the wheel.
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Post by: Vassillios on March 27, 2009, 09:57:10 am
maybe a .infoer should become a booking agent
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Post by: SkyePrizm on March 27, 2009, 11:08:04 am
Quote from: Vassillios;224368
maybe a .infoer should become a booking agent
don\'t tempt me with ideas. ;) i only work 30 hours a week. so i have plenty of free time.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: Vassillios on March 27, 2009, 12:27:43 pm
Quote from: SkyePrizm;224377
Quote from: Vassillios;224368
maybe a .infoer should become a booking agent
don\'t tempt me with ideas. ;) i only work 30 hours a week. so i have plenty of free time.
i\'ve tempted myself with the idea several times
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: skalnbyc on September 22, 2011, 10:39:31 pm
Since there was a little bit of a stir about my sarcastic use of the term hobby as a descriptor for the Breakfast, please refer back to this thread.
Perhaps I should have quoted "hobby".
I don\'t care if The Breakfast is a band, a hobby, a religion etc... I enjoy it for what it is...kick ass music.
Title: So is The Breakfast still a band or now a hobby?
Post by: bdfreetuna on September 22, 2011, 11:16:20 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;273162
I don\'t care if The Breakfast is a band, a hobby, a religion etc... I enjoy it for what it is...kick ass music.
That\'s fine dude but this is a thread better left buried than bumped.
But it does go to show that every time anything slightly controversial happens regarding The Breakfast there will be some fans who freak out and think the sky is falling.
Right now we\'re in the middle of Monday night residencies. A fairly small room in their home town. And Stellas is packed like sardines these four weeks to see the band play like they\'re on top of their game and having fun doing it to mostly their most hardcore fans.
No more room for whining and bitching. As long as everyone\'s still having fun we\'re going to get to keep hearing the music we love and seeing the people we love.
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Post by: skalnbyc on September 22, 2011, 11:25:12 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;273163
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;273162
I don\'t care if The Breakfast is a band, a hobby, a religion etc... I enjoy it for what it is...kick ass music.
That\'s fine dude but this is a thread better left buried than bumped. .
Bumped to make a point and nothing more than that.
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Post by: Stephengencs on September 23, 2011, 10:19:12 am
Lets be realistic here.....if you are lucky enough to be a musician as your primary source of income, then you have taken what is a hobby to 95% of the world and are making a living from it.....so yes....this is a hobby....and yes it is hard work, but then again, just because something is a hobby, doesnt mean its not hard work.....
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Post by: KEN RAFLOWITZ on September 23, 2011, 08:19:55 pm
I think Tim just said he had to get back to his hobby, after blasting .infoholes.