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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: galenas on January 15, 2007, 04:11:48 pm
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Hey,
Just got the latest issue of Relix and saw that someone reviewed Moxie Epoxy. Sorry if anyone on this board wrote it, but I had a really hard time understanding what the hell the reviewer was talking about!! The language was totally obsure. Overall, however, it ended with a negative tone and was pretty short. I wonder how much a positive review in Relix really matters anyway?
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Is there an online link?
I no longer receive Relix, both b/c of the crappy CD\'s and lack of the Breakfast.
I\'d love to read the review, though, no matter how negative
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i don\'t think the latest issue is available online yet. the site is http://www.relix.com if you want to check back in a few. wish i had the magazine in front of me right now to pull a few quotes, but i don\'t, sorry.
the review didn\'t bash the cd, but it definitely didn\'t praise it either.
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fuck relix, it\'s only good for the pictures anyway
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Who expected Relix to give it a good review anyway?
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I find Relix to give good reviews towards the "poppy" bands. For example, Umphrey\'s and/or Tea Leaf Green. I happen to like some of their songs, but they don\'t fall into (at least for me) the category of the "hardcore" jam band.
There\'s a big problem with today\'s jam band scene... 1) It\'s starting to get poppy and radio friendly, and 2) there\'s too many jam bands. The scene is flooded with talent and no one is really standing out above the rest.
Just my 2¢.
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a good relix review would completely give the band the boost it needs right now..
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I find Relix to give good reviews towards the "poppy" bands. For example, Umphrey\'s and/or Tea Leaf Green. I happen to like some of their songs, but they don\'t fall into (at least for me) the category of the "hardcore" jam band.
There\'s a big problem with today\'s jam band scene... 1) It\'s starting to get poppy and radio friendly, and 2) there\'s too many jam bands. The scene is flooded with talent and no one is really standing out above the rest.
Just my 2¢.
Just what is a "hardcore" jamband?
a good relix review would completely give the band the boost it needs right now..
Maybe but was a good review really expected? From Relix? For The Breakfast? Really?
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Just what is a "hardcore" jamband?
Maybe but was a good review really expected? From Relix? For The Breakfast? Really?
a. the breakfast
b. didn\'t they give them an award? was moxie epoxy not a good album?
did the dude even listen to it?
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a. the breakfast
b. didn\'t they give them an award? was moxie epoxy not a good album?
did the dude even listen to it?
oh yeah of course The Breakfast :rolleyes:
What award does Relix give out and when did they receive this award?
Moxie Epoxy was a pretty good album to some but I can totally see how a reviewer from Relix and other mags may not.
Even if the reviewer listened to it.
To tell the truth after the 1st week of listening to it I haven\'t put it on since.
Deuce and Real Radio get more play if I listen to studio Breakfast.
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Leith, I totally agree with you.
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i\'m just happy about the galenas sighting :wave:
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Relix gives out the Jammys
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oh man, someone doesn\'t like the record. we should lynch him. his opinion is obviously wrong.
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oh man, someone doesn\'t like the record. we should lynch him. his opinion is obviously wrong.
i agree!
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a good relix review would completely give the band the boost it needs right now..
tr00f. kids eat that shit up.. look at Umphree\'s.. back in 04, when the Breakfast had a 2 page spotlight in relix, um was on the cover, and had been pretty consistantly fluffed within the mag leading up to that issue.. two tears down the road, well you can fill in the rest..
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im not sayin that the dude dosent have the right to give the album a not so good review,im just expressing the fact that i wish he indeed did give the album a good review..
thats all.
to each=his/her own
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Relix sponsors the Jammys.
Peter Shapiro owns and operates the Jammys.
He is the former owner of Wetlands etc. He also is a major figure behind the Green Apple Music Festival in NYC.
Which it seems is on for this year as well
http://www.greenapplemusicfestival.com/web/index.php
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Relix gives out the Jammys
No they don\'t actually. The Jammys are given out by a group of industry professionals,( who yes a few MAY work for Relix) Jambands.com and fan voting. Relix may produce the event but that does not mean they give out the awards. Also just because the band won a Jammy in 2004 does not mean they automatically get good press in Relix.
tr00f. kids eat that shit up.. look at Umphree\'s.. back in 04, when the Breakfast had a 2 page spotlight in relix, um was on the cover, and had been pretty consistantly fluffed within the mag leading up to that issue.. two tears down the road, well you can fill in the rest..
Well it\'s pretty clear the band only gets coverage when it pushes for it. With no one in the fulltime position to do so you get things like this happening.
Relix sponsors the Jammys.
Peter Shapiro owns and operates the Jammys.
He is the former owner of Wetlands etc. He also is a major figure behind the Green Apple Music Festival in NYC.
Which it seems is on for this year as well
http://www.greenapplemusicfestival.com/web/index.php
Exactly Relix sponsors the event. It\'s not like People or USA Today give out The Grammys but they help sponsor them.
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oh man, someone doesn\'t like the record. we should lynch him. his opinion is obviously wrong.
Its cool Jim....I know you don\'t care for the record yourself.
Well...we gave them a more song structured poppy CD with Real Radio, they bitched because we were selling out to the commercial scene.
We aired it out...they bitch because of??????
My opininion....its because we don\'r give them ad dollars.
And at this point, we never will.
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not at all, man, i love the record, i listen to it all the time. i\'m just saying sometimes i see people really flip out on here when they get a bad review, and i feel like sometimes we can be the same as the people who blindly bash the band, just on the other side of the spectrum. no disrespect toward the record, i definitly think it\'s some of the band\'s best work, and i think the production is a step up as well. when i listened to the psygn sample you posted before the record came out, i wasn\'t sure about some of the mixing decisions, but upon listening to the record as a whole i definitely see the perspective as a whole and i like it. in fact, you\'ve gotten me in the mood to put it on right now.
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All good Jim..I just remember a few things seemed to be bugging you out when it came out. But look...everyone is entitled to an opinion and I\'m cool with that. State of mind goes apeshit for it....Relix is tepid. Unfotunately relix holds the high ground.
The more I think about it, the more I want to get the record to come of the Prog rags.
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Huh I always thought State of Mind was less fluffy with their reviews than Relix.
Anyway,,, is there some way to invite a reviewer to a show... like a special show, Freakout style or one of the other more hyped shows of the year.
I think its really gonna take a detailed *live* review in Relix to turn some heads. And everyone here knows live Breakfast is 10000000x better than studio Breakfast.
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Vic, I actually found The Breakfast in a "prog rag." It was a review of "Deuce" in Expose` magazine. The guy who wrote it is now a friend and bandmate of mine, although he doesn\'t write reviews for them anymore. When I first heard it I went out and bought it and anything else I could get my hands on. It was the musicianship that sold me on these guys, which is exactly why you would think the prog fans would like them. I believe it was a good thought to try and reach that audience, but they are a fickle bunch. I can only speak for myself, but I loved their CD\'s, but when I saw them live, it was all over. The fact I travelled to the Freakout this year is proof of that.
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The fact I travelled to the Freakout and survived[/size] this year is proof of that.
fixed ;)
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Well...we gave them a more song structured poppy CD with Real Radio, they bitched because we were selling out to the commercial scene.
We aired it out...they bitch because of??????
My opininion....its because we don\'r give them ad dollars.
And at this point, we never will.[/QUOTE]
seems to me that it is a personal dislike...no matter what we give em they wont help out,
and to read what shit music they do fluff boggels my mind.....
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Robyn, thanks for the correction :D and hoping to do it again this year!
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the jam scene=pop=...... dead
jump ship now or go down with it. i think Ron and Tim should grow the front of there hair long color it black and and purple get lip rings and make the breakfast emo.
get into the metal scene or something a little more hard edged they already kind of play that way give or take a 10 minute jam. and at least metal fans appreciate musicianship not like the pop/American idol bullshit thats going on now
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the jam scene=pop=...... dead
jump ship now or go down with it. i think Ron and Tim should grow the front of there hair long color it black and and purple get lip rings and make the breakfast emo.
get into the metal scene or something a little more hard edged they already kind of play that way give or take a 10 minute jam. and at least metal fans appreciate musicianship not like the pop/American idol bullshit thats going on now
co-bill with Opeth.
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Nothing would make me more happy to see The Breakfast blow up and start making a lot of fans and money, they deserve it!! We all know that. Maybe a great review in Relix would give them a boost in that direction. But, my opinion is that you shouldn\'t try to do something or be something you are not, just to sell more records. I am a jamband fan! When I buy an album from a jamband thats what I want to hear a jamband. I know that I\'m not going to have a cd full of 20-30 minute jams, that doesn\'t make sense. So you have to compromise. My one gripe with Bona Fide is some of the jams were cut to fit more songs on the disc. Eschers Etchings is a great song but I want to hear the jam just as much as the song itself, and so do the fans of JAMbands. Phish did a great job with "A Live One (2 discs I know) and Slip Stitch and Pass. And I realize they were already immensly popular at that point but still.
I dont really know where I\'m going with this rant, but when I listen to Moxie Epoxy aside from Psygn I don\'t feel like I\'m listening to a jamband, its more of a straight up rock record. I still like the album, but I already know what the band is about since I\'ve seen them live many a time.
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As to the sound of the band in generaly....the more Tim is featured the more straight up rock it sounds. So there I agree with you. I like the band either way, but I personally would like to see keys. But....thats the bands decision, not mie and I try to support them whatever they want to do in that way.
As to the jamming...we went into the studio and let it rip. I didn\'t edit ANYthing. Short of not having any songs and just faking it...I don\'t know how they could have jammed any more.
I tend to agree with Jordan....the Relix people simply don\'t like the band and have bever given it much os a chance. Sometimes I wonder if I\'m listening to the same CDs they are....I don\'t get what they are looking for or hear what they do in some of these other bands.
Unfortunately....its useless conjecture.
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i just read this review, really unhappy with it. barely praises the band at all, mostly serves to talk about how much they "fail" at making an album that compares to their live experience
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so they had good things to say about the live performance?
I certainly wouldn\'t fault a reviewer for saying the album doesn\'t live up to their live performances.... the difference is huge. If The Breakfast ever makes the big-time I believe its gonna be on the merits of their live show, getting good festival gigs and whatnot. Even if the tracks on Moxie were as good as any live version of said song (which they aren\'t... the intensity and spontaneuity(sp??) is lacking) there would still be that problem that Real Radio and Moxie both sound so one-dimensional on any stereo, surround sound, car stereo, I\'ve played them in. I don\'t think I\'ve ever heard such a flat sound on any other albums besides these.
Overexposure is pretty nice on it though
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they dont really say how good their live show is, they mostly just say how their studio sound doesn\'t capture their live performance, which i guess is an underhanded compliment, however they don\'t really go in depth on that. most of the review is just the guy saying how the album is misguided and doesn\'t have a great direction. he does however say that it is a nice compact album that flows well. too lazy to type the whole thing, but clearly not a positive review
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well as long as people are still talking about the album...that is a good thing...let the critics say what they want, since the Breakfast\'s best stuff is still ,at least, 2 albums away.......Moxie Epoxy is by far the bands best work to date and how bout overexposure.......it\'s due.....
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true, one other thing, the way the album is formatted on the page of the magazine pisses me off as well. its like in the bottom right corner of a left page. may not sound like anything but i completely skipped over it at first, its literally like tucked away, wish they would get some more positive reviews, but what can we do
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sort of related...jambands.com put up a rotating pic of breakfast from northstar on their homepage...
http://www.jambands.com/potd/images/575.jpg