General Discussions => Inner Glimpse => Topic started by: davepeck on December 17, 2007, 11:40:34 am
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on December 17, 2007, 11:40:34 am
Season 3 thread (http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=8348)
Season 4 Trailer:
:wah:
back to 9pm, on thursdays, starting January 31st. 8 episodes in the can. hope the strike resolves SOON, because i reeeeeeally don\'t want another mini-season.
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Post by: Vassillios on December 17, 2007, 03:05:15 pm
sombitch. looks like its gonna be another good season.
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Post by: jking on December 17, 2007, 03:13:46 pm
Want!!!
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Post by: davepeck on December 19, 2007, 03:58:16 pm
new, extended trailer. possible spoilers. you\'ve been warned:
:drool:
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Post by: Whathefunk on December 19, 2007, 07:19:46 pm
looks like i have to get my act together and watch the last few episodes of season 3... yup, still haven\'t seen \'em.
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Post by: zuke583 on December 24, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
Quote from: Whathefunk;173692
looks like i have to get my act together and watch the last few episodes of season 3... yup, still haven\'t seen \'em.
you absolutely need to see the last few episodes...they make the season. and the finale...omgz!!
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Post by: Whathefunk on December 24, 2007, 07:09:46 pm
so i\'ve heard... but my itunes doesn\'t play videos well, always choppy. and as far as i know the dvds have not been released yet
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Post by: Me! on December 24, 2007, 09:38:38 pm
$34.99 on amazon
link (http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Complete-Season-Matthew-Fox/dp/B000P6YNSE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1198549444&sr=8-1)
FYI: most DVD\'s are released just before the next season starts
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Post by: zuke583 on January 04, 2008, 03:20:31 pm
an interview with matthew fox (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169281,00.html)
don\'t read it if you haven\'t seen season 3
i can\'t fucking wait for 1/31/08
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Post by: BennyBoomers on January 04, 2008, 03:46:57 pm
thanks for the link Zuke!
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Post by: zuke583 on January 24, 2008, 11:17:06 am
one week til minds are blown
who\'s hosting the LOST premier party?
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on January 24, 2008, 11:27:25 am
picked up season 3 blu ray keep watching it over and over waiting for next thursday to come, also i know who\'s in the casket..........
heath ledger!
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Post by: Vassillios on January 24, 2008, 08:45:14 pm
its about friggin time brah
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Post by: zuke583 on January 30, 2008, 10:50:42 am
season 3 finale(pop up video-style) on tonight to whet the appetite
omfg!!!
i\'m embarrassed to be so excited about a tv show
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Post by: BennyBoomers on January 30, 2008, 10:58:04 am
Zuke, I know you\'re just hoping that Hurley has a skinny dipping scene this season...
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Post by: sallyalli on January 30, 2008, 01:40:38 pm
Its gonna be hard for me to keep up on season 4 w/o cable. Im gonna have to figure something out. Looks like its gonna be killer.
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Post by: Vassillios on January 30, 2008, 01:48:49 pm
2 HOURS???? this shit is gonna be off the hook
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Post by: zuke583 on January 30, 2008, 04:20:33 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;178181
2 HOURS???? this shit is gonna be off the hook
2 hours tonight: last two episodes of season 3 (1 hour each)
2 hours tomorrow: refresher episode (1 hour), season premier (1 hour)
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Post by: BennyBoomers on February 01, 2008, 09:18:09 am
So, who watched it?
Don\'t wanna give too much away if people didnt watch it yet, but it was everything i had hoped it would be
And Zuke, you almost got your Hurley skinny dipping scene! Did you see him running to do his cannonball with his boobs flapping in the breeze??? LOL
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 01, 2008, 10:18:33 am
you\'re not here, you\'re dead.
I know I\'m dead, but I\'m also here.
prove it.
:slap: :lol:
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Post by: zuke583 on February 01, 2008, 10:28:03 am
Quote from: BennyBoomers;178429
And Zuke, you almost got your Hurley skinny dipping scene! Did you see him running to do his cannonball with his boobs flapping in the breeze??? LOL
just seeing his sweaty manboobs through his shirt got me at half mast
Quote from: FrankZappa;178440
you\'re not here, you\'re dead.
I know I\'m dead, but I\'m also here.
prove it.
:slap: :lol:
nice use of smileys...weird that the other patient saw "charlie" too...was he a hallucination as well?
more questions than answers after that episode:
who else is in the oceanic 6 (besides hurley, kate, and jack)? what was christian doing in jacob\'s shack? what\'s the deal with hurley\'s visitor in the mental institute? are there still people on the island...is that why hurley wants to go back (jack too)?
i have a feeling we\'re going to get a lot more questions over the next seven episodes...
"i\'m thinking about growing a beard" - jack
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on February 01, 2008, 10:44:53 am
"Dude, you\'d look pretty stupid with a beard." rotfl
Did you notice how hurley was able to see jacob in the rocking chair?
Who was in the casket? They would have been one of the survivors (oceanic 6), so wouldn\'t there only be 5 of the 6 left?
There was a guy videotaping hurley when the cops pulled him away.
I think the visitor to the mental institution was from dharma and they are trying to cover up their tracks/fix a still ongoing problem.
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 01, 2008, 10:59:17 am
aaaand, who\'s this naomi chick? and her band of parachutin\' weirdos? should we believe ben??
is penny now going to finally send someone to save her precious desmond??
wtf is up with locke? is he totally crazy? was he in that shack with jacob??
i cant believe they are splitting up! didnt jack say something like "together we live, alone we die" or something in the first season??? ahhhh
i cant believe i have to wait a freakin week to see what happens. up til now its been all on DVD for me so i\'ve just compulsively watched episode after episode like the LOST junkie i am.... ack!!
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Post by: zuke583 on February 01, 2008, 11:13:12 am
"live together, die alone"
the exact moment hurley decides to go with locke marks "the beginning of the end". can\'t fault his logic, though...he trusted charlie
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 01, 2008, 12:32:41 pm
Quote from: princesscaspian;178446
wtf is up with locke? is he totally crazy? was he in that shack with jacob??
i cant believe i have to wait a freakin week to see what happens. up til now its been all on DVD for me so i\'ve just compulsively watched episode after episode like the LOST junkie i am.... ack!!
yea, I\'m pretty sure that was locke in the cabin with jacob. Also, I\'m in the same exact boat as you. Watched all 3 seasons back in september, so it\'s really weird having to wait now!!! grrr...
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Post by: BennyBoomers on February 01, 2008, 12:36:36 pm
Zuke, you really think it was Christian in the cabin?
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Post by: davepeck on February 01, 2008, 12:46:28 pm
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Post by: sallyalli on February 01, 2008, 02:45:01 pm
wow. I think it was Jacob, locke, and someone else in the cabin...maybe jacks dad...I\'m not sure (that would be weird). And I think it was locks eye that freaked Hugo out. This season is gonna be great. I have a feeling the others and the Lost are going to become allies. I also think that these people who land on the island are going to be pissed that Naomi is dead.
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Post by: Vassillios on February 01, 2008, 04:48:56 pm
And why the hell should Hurley have chosen to go with Jack? It seems as if Locke really is an "other" now. That sucks cuz I liked him.
He\'s probably the one in the casket too.
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 06, 2008, 07:39:06 pm
wooooo!! whats gonna happen tomorrrrrrow! the preview makes you think you\'re going to find out why these "rescuers" were coming to the island... but im suspicious.... any predictions??
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 06, 2008, 09:21:30 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;178499
It seems as if Locke really is an "other" now. That sucks cuz I liked him.
as hard as it is to pick a favorite character, I think ben is mine. YOu just want to punch him in the face every time he smiles. I love to hate him. :thumbsup:
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 08, 2008, 11:06:19 am
last nights episode = okay.... who are these weird people on the island? and i mean, gas masks?? why do they want ben??? and whats the deal with this odd mix of people? a ghost hunter? wtf?
maybe this "rescue" crew was like, summoned to the island, beacuse they were "meant" to be there or something, like that guy who was supposed to be the pilot?
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Post by: zuke583 on February 08, 2008, 12:57:52 pm
sweet!!!....quintuple backstory. i love meeting new people (on tv shows)
seems like they\'re part of the dharma initiative...miles, dan, and charlotte anyway. they seem especially gifted. but what are the purposes of a ghostbuster, a genius, and an archaeologist?
gut reaction: i don\'t trust charlotte
my one burning question: what the fuck is up with polar bears in tunisia with dharma collars?
oh and princess, they\'re all "meant" to be there...haven\'t you been watching?
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Post by: sallyalli on February 08, 2008, 02:24:36 pm
So seems to me like they eventually give up Ben to have 6 people rescued. that guy in the suit who hired Naomi is probably some important guy with something to do with the island and they want Ben gone because he killed like 60 people to take over the island and has been preventing people from getting to it since then. Not too much went on in that episode. Next week should be killer. I\'m gonna have to bring alexis computer so I can watch it in Puerto. woo hoo
oh and as for the polar bear... We know that the darma people were testing the islands "powers" in different ways. We know they used polar bears. I bet they found out that the island did something for the bears and brought them back to a mainland to see if the results would stay with the animal.
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Post by: BennyBoomers on February 08, 2008, 04:27:04 pm
Quote from: sallyalli;179184
So seems to me like they eventually give up Ben to have 6 people rescued. that guy in the suit who hired Naomi is probably some important guy with something to do with the island and they want Ben gone because he killed like 60 people to take over the island and has been preventing people from getting to it since then..
It\'s soooooooooo Ben in that coffin
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Post by: sallyalli on February 09, 2008, 01:18:25 am
^^ah we will see. I did not think about that. but why would jack be upset about that??
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Post by: BennyBoomers on February 09, 2008, 09:57:43 am
because Ben is dead only because they made a deal to give him to the "rescuers" so they could get off the island....??
I don\'t know, obviously all speculation, i doubt im right
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 09, 2008, 11:35:25 am
or maybe ben is the only one who knows how to get back to the island... ?
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Post by: leith on February 09, 2008, 12:55:55 pm
Pretty neat show.
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Post by: ChiefBennyhaha on February 09, 2008, 06:30:56 pm
As to the bears, the dharma proj also were using sharks. Badass. but somewhere last season, wish i knew what ep, but there is a fraction of a clip of a shark with the dharma symbol on it\'s tail fin. nutzzz.
So what\'s the deal with that miles character?
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 09, 2008, 06:32:13 pm
sharks eh? maybe that explains what happened at The Looking Glass station....
yeah i agree miles is pretty wacky.... talking with the dead and stuff... creeeeeepy
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Post by: jking on February 09, 2008, 07:21:14 pm
charlotte staples lewis = c. s. lewis....
i doubt its ben in the doffin, only because i can\'t imagine anything making him leave the island. other than maybe if locke were to usurp him and jacob told him to go. but i still don\'t think he\'d leave even then.
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Post by: leith on February 09, 2008, 09:14:44 pm
I have watched maybe 2 or 4 episodes the entire time it has been on but I have watched the last 4 episodes (starting with last season\'s last 2 episodes) with interest. I don\'t plan on watching the whole series but you never know. It is pretty neat.
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Post by: Vassillios on February 11, 2008, 03:49:48 pm
neat? its more of an addiction at this point for me man.
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Post by: zuke583 on February 11, 2008, 04:19:09 pm
Quote from: leith;179270
Pretty neat show.
understatement of the year. if you like the last four episodes, watch the whole series from the start...LOST on dvd = $$$. at the very least, it will give you something to look forward to every thursday...plus you can nerd it up with us on this very thread!!
(bears and sharks and BSMs, OH MY!)
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: zuke583 on February 13, 2008, 12:19:49 pm
season 4 will have 13 episodes season 5 will have 19 episodes
i\'m guessing this means there won\'t be any bullshit \'nikki & paulo\' episodes this season...thank god. i have faith in the writers to still produce an excellent product in the alloted time
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Post by: Vassillios on February 13, 2008, 03:54:43 pm
god bless the writers strike coming to an end
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Post by: lele on February 14, 2008, 10:24:56 pm
wow...this show gets better every week!! Great episode!!! :)
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Post by: zuke583 on February 15, 2008, 08:10:19 am
sayid is a fucking badass...and a pretty good golfer.
so ben\'s off the island...but is he one of the oceanic 6? something tells me he might not be. and why is sayid his hitman? who\'s \'the economist\'? and most importantly, when are kate and juliette finally going to throw down (aka hottest fight ever)?
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Post by: davepeck on February 15, 2008, 11:10:19 am
Quote from: zuke583;179995
so ben\'s off the island...but is he one of the oceanic 6? something tells me he might not be.
i would say no, because he wasn\'t on the plane.
then again, it\'s lost, so you never know.
though we pretty much got confirmation last night that the island is in fact on a different timeline than the rest of the world, with the 31-minute discrepancy with the payload arrival.
remember daniel\'s comment on scattered light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattering)? check out the section on electromagnetic scattering. why did the sky turn purple when the swan (electromagnetic hatch) was destroyed?
the electromagnetic and sound specta and their use for communication (http://www.usbyte.com/common/approximate_wavelength.htm)
our eyes only see blue sky, but the electronic blast disrupted the field enough for the sky to turn purple (higher frequency/shorter wavelength). the lower frequencies/longer wavelengths (communications) were wiped out.
the name on ben\'s passport - Dean Moriarty - one of the main characters from Jack Kerouac\'s "On The Road."
anyways, the way i see it, there is a connection between oceanic and dharma. since ben killed off all the island dharma, that\'s why they\'re after him. hence the gas masks they brought with them - they know about how ben killed them all off before, and don\'t want to fall victim to that again. oceanic staged the 815 crash at the bottom of the ocean to cover up the island - they don\'t want it to be found. the guy in charge of the operation who hired naomi last week made it clear - "there were no survivors". they\'re going in to get ben and that\'s it. everyone else is either going to be killed, or left to die.
i believe naomi is the only one who got this order though, and it\'s possible that the rest of the group (or some of them) do not know exactly why they are there (other than to get ben). i believe this is why some of the losties (the six) ARE rescued. the freighter people bring them back, and oceanic is then forced to make deals with the six of them in exchange for their silence about the existence of the island.
how does ben get off the island? i don\'t know. but the fact that he is now makes him a candidate to be in that coffin. sayid is now working for ben to take out people who are apparently trying to kill "his friends", whatever that means. elle had the same bracelet naomi had, so perhaps elle was also a special op hired by dharma. why was sayid acting like he knew namoi on the island? and why are they in berlin?
god i love this show.
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Post by: zuke583 on February 15, 2008, 11:18:23 am
didn\'t notice elle had the same bracelet as naomi...seems important though
and what were the initials on the bracelet? RC? is there an RC that we know of? Randall Cunningham perhaps?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on February 15, 2008, 11:50:40 am
looks like RC. possibly RG, i suppose, but.. no, we don\'t know who that is.
it is RG...cofirmed
oh and sawyer calling ben \'gizmo\' was hilarious
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Post by: lele on February 15, 2008, 02:46:32 pm
I Love Sawyer!! (...just thought I would add that :) )
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Post by: ulee on February 16, 2008, 11:50:05 am
i alternate between loving Sawyer and Sayid
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Post by: zuke583 on February 19, 2008, 10:05:15 pm
summarized by a guy on phantasybisco:
"Finally a new "real" podcast with series executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse now that they\'re back to work. The following are the main points from the podcast, but I recommend downloading this if you\'re into podcasts. I don\'t continue the following spoilers because they come from Damon and Carlton and therefore deemed by me as supplemental info. But there is some forward looking stuff, but nothing I\'d really consider spoiler if it didn\'t come from them.
*******************************
There will be no tricks with the current 4 O6. All four are part of the O6. You will get the other two members soon, it is not an end of the season mystery.
Damon and Carlton confirmed a \'time shift\' or \'time fluctuation\' on the rocket\'s trip from the freighter to the island.
Libby will be back this season. No answer on how she got into the institute.
The polar bear in the desert is directly related to the Orchid orientation video and the #8 rabbits.
The cow that frank saw is Patchy\'s cow. Her name is svetlana.
Eggtown has a \'killer\' ending. (I don\'t think they meant a murder, just that its really good).
Hurley says \'Dude\' 71 times in season 1, 44 times in season 2, 72 times in season 3."
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Post by: zuke583 on February 21, 2008, 12:33:45 pm
bump for my new favorite night of the week!
good interview with the producers (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125,00.html?iid=top25-20080221-%27%27Lost%27%27%3A+Mind%2Dblowing+scoop)
my takeaway from the interview: 1. s4 is all about the O6 and how they deal with the world after the island
2. charlotte is gonna be important
3. "sometimes a bracelet is just a bracelet"
4. person in coffin will be revealed this season ("that\'s the primary super-structure of the season")
5. writing about time travel without introducing paradoxes is fucking hard
i\'m think tonight\'s going to be a kate episode (woot)...maybe we\'ll find out who the "he" is from the s3 finale...another O6er perhaps? (sawyer?)
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Post by: Vassillios on February 21, 2008, 03:23:44 pm
i think that it\'s sawyer. the sixth one is a def mystery
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Post by: Vassillios on February 22, 2008, 03:59:17 pm
So is Aaron one of the O6?
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 22, 2008, 04:05:14 pm
i suppose so! what did kate do, steal him? shes so sketchy and terrible!
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Post by: Vassillios on February 22, 2008, 04:35:41 pm
yea its weird.... claire would not give up her baby, she must die at some point....
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 22, 2008, 04:51:56 pm
oh, and wtf happened to that helicopter?
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Post by: ChiefBennyhaha on February 22, 2008, 05:14:30 pm
OH shit just got real
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Post by: Vassillios on February 22, 2008, 08:34:11 pm
i think we find out about the heli next week
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Post by: zuke583 on February 23, 2008, 05:39:47 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;181095
i think we find out about the heli next week
i hope you\'re right, but what makes you say that?
was anybody else clear on when that trial took place? i think it\'s clear that the hurley-jack flashforward took place before the jack-kate rendezvous at the airport, but i have no idea if that trial took place before, between, or after those two events
and why was kate\'s trial in california instead of iowa?
lostpedia has some pretty good trivia regarding some of this episode\'s facts, including the story behind the title \'eggtown\'
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Post by: sallyalli on February 23, 2008, 10:38:25 pm
claire=in the coffin
good episode
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Post by: princesscaspian on February 24, 2008, 02:07:30 am
Quote from: sallyalli;181169
claire=in the coffin
wow, it could totally be jack\'s fault that claire dies, which is why kate is so angry that he hasn\'t come to see the baby! but then, why didn\'t anyone show at claire\'s funeral?
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Post by: Vassillios on February 27, 2008, 12:36:40 pm
Quote from: zuke583;181157
Quote from: Vassillios;181095
i think we find out about the heli next week
i hope you\'re right, but what makes you say that?
I say this only because of the preview they gave for this week. There\'s obviously a time change/difference between the island and the rest of the world and thats what fucks with the heli and getting to/from the island.
I think the trial may be pre-jack/kate rendezvous (simply bc jack didnt have the beard) but not sure about the hurley thing.
the coffin is still way up in the air too. does that person count as one of the O6?
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Post by: davepeck on February 29, 2008, 11:11:38 am
absolute.mindfuck.
wow.
it became clear long ago, when charlie was playing wonderwall, that desmond-centric episodes were the greatest. last night was certainly no different.
tears, goosebumps, and shakes throughout this entire episode. really started to love the daniel character in this ep, and honestly, i cried like a baby when des got a hold of penny.
need to watch again immediately, if not sooner. A++++
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Post by: weekapaug19 on February 29, 2008, 11:28:58 am
agreed.....last season i started getting into the show alot, and last nights episode was the best yet. I like the whole constant thing you need to have
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Post by: sallyalli on February 29, 2008, 12:47:15 pm
wow. That was a good one. I\'m still emotional from watching it. I was very close to crying until bennyboomers walked in the room and i regained my composure. The people on the boat are so weird. I can\'t read them. Its like they are good people but they are not at the same time. I\'m really happy daniel and sayid were able to help desmond. Right now he is my favorite character. Im really starting to hate john locke though. maybe the coffin opens next week.
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Post by: lele on February 29, 2008, 01:03:31 pm
Definitely a great show last night...loved it!!
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Post by: Vassillios on February 29, 2008, 08:19:14 pm
this just brought the show to a whole new f\'d up level... TIME travel??
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Post by: Jim Cobb on March 03, 2008, 11:26:04 pm
ok. in 3 weeks and 2 days, i\'ve watched 77 episodes of lost. (yea, that\'s approx. 3.35 episodes per day.) i am now all caught up. holy fuck, what a fucking journey i\'ve been on the past three weeks. my life is changed... and what a GREAT desmond episode! "i luv ya, pennay." holy shit.... davepeck, i cried like a baby as well.
anyways, now that i\'m caught up, i can engage in discussion with you all. i\'ve avoided this thread like the plague because i didnt want to spoil anything. so who thinks penny\'s dad is majorly more influential than they\'re letting on. i wouldn\'t be surprised if he was behind the whole dharma thing. and what the FUCK is with sayid working for ben in the flash forward? too many questions... not enough answers...
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Post by: Lexington on March 03, 2008, 11:39:19 pm
I was thinking that penny\'s father had to be more involved. Thats why he was so interested in getting that journal by the 1st mate on the black rock. Penny\'s father probably gave that picture of desmond and penny to naomi.
-Alli
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Post by: zuke583 on March 04, 2008, 04:28:44 pm
wow what a fucking episode. i\'m not going to say i "cried like a baby," but things definitely got a little dusty towards the end. definitely a "slaughterhouse 5" feel to the episode...des\'s buddy in the army was "billy" right? the producers keep saying that they\'ve created this entire time-travel scenario without any paradoxes...which i love. but how does daniel not remember talking to desmond in 1996? does he experience memory loss on his way to the island as well (desmond is his constant)? he did experience a lot of radiation in his lab ("what about your head?"). and does his card memory exercise with charlotte have anything to do with it? and what\' s the deal with the log from the black rock being sold at the auction (by a member of the hanso family) to widmore? there\'s some sort of weird mojo goin on there.
interesting to note that it\'s xmas eve on the boat but it\'s a full two days later on the island...more than a 2% difference...that\'s 90 million years over the course of 4.5 billion
[spoiler]this thursday\'s episode (the other woman...get it the other woman) is gonna be a juliet episode and will surely be a stinker compared to last week. but we find out a little about the whereabouts of the others which will be neat.[/spoiler]
this show is sucha mindfuck...i can\'t wait to see how they write themselves out of this. i mean how much longer can they keep complicating things? they have to reach the apex soon right?
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Post by: davepeck on March 04, 2008, 04:43:27 pm
Quote from: zuke583;182354
interesting to note that it\'s xmas eve on the boat but it\'s a full two days later on the island...more than a 2% difference...that\'s 90 million years over the course of 4.5 billion
i must have missed something. how do you know this?
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Post by: zuke583 on March 04, 2008, 04:47:07 pm
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Constant
about halfway down under general trivia
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: zuke583 on March 05, 2008, 01:14:23 pm
ok so let\'s say that my "2% - 90 million year" theory is right (which it most certainly is not). that would put the island 90 million years in the future, for all intents and purposes. original inhabitants of the island (whatever that means) could have experienced evolution more quickly than the "real world"...possibly evolving past the need for a fifth toe. not to mention probably several other weird possibilities...
just throwing it out there
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 05, 2008, 01:38:52 pm
I don\'t really understand the 2% difference... I didn\'t see any evidence of that in the last episode. We know there is some sort of time delay between the island and the freighter because of the rocket, but it was only a couple hours, right? And I take it as the delay is constant, like its only a couple hours off, not that time is moving faster on the island.
On another note, pennys dad is gonna be a huge deal to this whole thing. The fact that he bought that journal from the black rock in 96 shows that he has learned about the island and knows a lotta shit.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 05, 2008, 01:48:11 pm
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I don\'t really understand the 2% difference... I didn\'t see any evidence of that in the last episode. We know there is some sort of time delay between the island and the freighter because of the rocket, but it was only a couple hours, right? And I take it as the delay is constant, like its only a couple hours off, not that time is moving faster on the island.
i\'m with you. i don\'t get that blurb on lostpedia at all. seems like pure speculation (as they even use the word, "seems"). it appears to me that things are only lost in time when they enter this "thing" (whatever it is) off a certain course between the island and the freighter.
if there is truly a time difference, how are people on the island communicating with people on the freighter in real time?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: zuke583 on March 05, 2008, 02:55:19 pm
yeah if there\'s no time difference it\'s all moot. lostpedia does mention in the eggtown page that the enhanced version of the episode places it at day 93...or day 95. i suppose i\'d have to trust the producers on that one. what i meant by the 2% difference is that (if it were 12/26/04 on the island and 12/24/04 everywhere else) about 2 days were gained over the course of about 100. a) it doesn\'t seem like the two-day difference is acurate and b) i doubt the relationship is as linear as that and c)who even know what the fuck is going on
but there clearly is some sort of time delay going on..31 minutes for the rocket, hours (?) for the helicopter. seems like the slower something travels the greater the time delay. radio waves (traveling at the speed of light) would tend to experience a very slight delay
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 05, 2008, 03:08:55 pm
if tomorrow is really a juliet episode none of this will be answered
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 05, 2008, 03:15:53 pm
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[spoiler]this thursday\'s episode (the other woman...get it the other woman) is gonna be a juliet episode and will surely be a stinker compared to last week. but we find out a little about the whereabouts of the others which will be neat.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Vassillios;182513
if tomorrow is really a [spoiler]juliet[/spoiler] episode none of this will be answered
btw, in the future, that kind of thing should be spoilerized.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: jking on March 05, 2008, 04:13:18 pm
ok, i don\'t know if y\'all have seen this time loop theory ( http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm ) but its definitely got a lot of thought put into it. i think it makes a bunch of presumptions, but does tie a lot of the various things together. it could be considered one HUGE spoiler, although since its just someone\'s suppositions, it could be entirely bunk. it does mention who they thik the final two Flight 815 Six are (about half way down) but you can read and get the gist of things until they start talking about what they think is going on timeline-wise in 2007 without stumbling across that particular piece of info.
so, in summary, if you want an in-depth theory of what\'s going on tha has hooked a lot of people and don\'t mind being potentially spoiled, read away. i read it and don\'t entirely buy into it, but it does raise interesting possibilities. if you just want to see how the writers are gonna play this out, then don\'t bother.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: zuke583 on March 05, 2008, 04:24:57 pm
Quote from: davepeck;182515
Quote from: zuke583;182354
[spoiler]this thursday\'s episode (the other woman...get it the other woman) is gonna be a juliet episode and will surely be a stinker compared to last week. but we find out a little about the whereabouts of the others which will be neat.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Vassillios;182513
if tomorrow is really a [spoiler]juliet[/spoiler] episode none of this will be answered
btw, in the future, that kind of thing should be spoilerized.
i was just relaying it from the producers\' podcast...i\'ll keep it in mind that some want to go into the episode with a complete blank slate
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: skalnbyc on March 05, 2008, 04:55:58 pm
Having never seen this show, I must ask if it really good and worth checking out on Netflix, beginning with season 1. I have gotten into other shows strictly from rave .info reviews in the past (Arrested Development, Entourage...).
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 05, 2008, 05:00:38 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;182532
Having never seen this show, I must ask if it really good and worth checking out on Netflix, beginning with season 1. I have gotten into other shows strictly from rave .info reviews in the past (Arrested Development, Entourage...).
It\'s that good. And def start from season 1.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on March 05, 2008, 05:03:19 pm
Its quite simply the best show on television. You MUST get into it and you MUST start from season 1
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: krispy on March 06, 2008, 11:35:27 am
Tgit!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: ulee on March 06, 2008, 12:42:14 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;182534
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;182532
Having never seen this show, I must ask if it really good and worth checking out on Netflix, beginning with season 1. I have gotten into other shows strictly from rave .info reviews in the past (Arrested Development, Entourage...).
It\'s that good. And def start from season 1.
I can send you seasons 2 and 3 if you want-- I think i have burned DVDs of these.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 06, 2008, 11:13:32 pm
juliet episodes suck
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: krispy on March 07, 2008, 10:08:47 am
Quote from: Vassillios;182717
juliet episodes suck
bad lost is still better than the rest of TV. I\'ll sit back and enjoy the lumps.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 07, 2008, 12:09:36 pm
al, it\'s not that good and the first two seasons sucked. Just start with the 3rd and you\'ll be fine.
rotfl :duck:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: jocelyn on March 07, 2008, 03:24:39 pm
Wow, this thread is 7 pages long? I, like Al, am starting to wonder if I should watching this show. Besides, I hear more about Lost than I do about politics, current events, music, or sports, combined, lately. To have a conversation with a casual acquaintance will be much easier if I have been watching Lost. :lol:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 07, 2008, 06:03:36 pm
joc, I take back my previous statement. You and Al both need to get them and watch the whole show from the beginning.
Then watch the prisoner series from the 60\'s and we can discuss Americas obsession with stealing plot concepts from canceled British shows.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: jocelyn on March 07, 2008, 06:16:18 pm
Alright.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: sallyalli on March 09, 2008, 12:54:21 pm
so that last juliet eppie was alright.
I still wanna know who is in the coffin. A new question from thursday is how ben got in touch with juliet through her old (dead?) therapist. I wanna know more about the powers of the island as well. Not one sceen on the boat? I hope that des and sayid are ok.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: leith on March 09, 2008, 02:40:06 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;182813
joc, I take back my previous statement. You and Al both need to get them and watch the whole show from the beginning.
Then watch the prisoner series from the 60\'s and we can discuss Americas obsession with stealing plot concepts from canceled British shows.
"I am not a number. I am a free man!"
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 11, 2008, 02:06:12 am
seriously, joc and al, you will be caught up in no time. again let me reiterate my experience.
i decided to start at the beginning as well. it took me only 23 days to watch 77 episodes of lost. it has changed my life.
i dont think the time warping is constant, hence the need to leave the island on the same path you came in on. it\'s got to be some sort of electromagnetic warping of spacetime, but it doesn\'t seem to be uniform. that said, if you left the island via the exact same path you came in on, the time warping would cancel itself out. however, if you leave on a different path, it wouldn\'t quite cancel out and you\'d experience what desmond experienced. i dunno, i\'m speculating...
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: ulee on March 11, 2008, 09:13:21 pm
my man phil thinks Michael is in the coffin.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 11, 2008, 09:35:24 pm
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my man phil thinks Michael is in the coffin.
at this point, i\'m waiting for some sort of curveball for it to NOT be michael in the coffin and/or ben\'s guy on the boat. but i don\'t think we\'re gonna get that curveball.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 11, 2008, 10:59:49 pm
Quote from: leith;182898
Quote from: FrankZappa;182813
joc, I take back my previous statement. You and Al both need to get them and watch the whole show from the beginning.
Then watch the prisoner series from the 60\'s and we can discuss Americas obsession with stealing plot concepts from canceled British shows.
"I am not a number. I am a free man!"
:lol:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: ChiefBennyhaha on March 12, 2008, 11:18:39 pm
So now Ben is a good guy protecting the island from the bad guys? Penny\'s dad is probably the guy sayid was looking for in that other ep. Sayid now works for Ben to protect the island? Is Ben playing double as always?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 12, 2008, 11:33:48 pm
i dont know who to trust anymore... is ben really the good guy? or is he just spouting out bullshit again? are charlotte and faraday the bad guys, or are they really trying to save everyone from ben? fucking a....
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 13, 2008, 10:45:14 pm
unexpected mindfuck. :lol: oh those crazy lost writers!
so the way i saw that was sun\'s was a flashforward, and jin\'s was a flashback. but is jin really dead? was he or was he not one of the oceanic six? that isn\'t spelled out for us, and the date on his tombstone was 09/22/2004 - the date of the crash. maybe he\'s still on the island? who the fuck knows?!
and christ, zoe bell finally gets screentime after her name being in the opening credits all season, and off she goes...
interesting that "kevin johnson\'s" note said not to trust the captain, but the captain was pretty revealing, at least as far as des is concerned.
kinda glad the michael thing was quick and painless in this episode though. that "reveal" really didn\'t have much (any) air left in it.
next week\'s the last one before the break...
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 13, 2008, 11:24:59 pm
i am assuming jin was the one in the coffin. he\'s gotta really be dead... sun was pretty sincere when she and hurley went to the grave.
the big news is kevin johnson. this is how people are/aren\'t going to be getting off the island.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 13, 2008, 11:35:12 pm
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i am assuming jin was the one in the coffin.
that makes no sense though.. that funeral home was in a ghetto neighborhood, and why would no one go to Jin\'s service?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on March 14, 2008, 11:14:22 am
i agree Dave, definately NOT Jin in the coffin. I\'m not convinced he is really dead though either, based on the date on the gravestone.
Every single week this show just blows me away. Once its all said and done, I think this has the chance to be the BEST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION!
P.S. i think I\'m way too emotionally invested in these characters...
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 14, 2008, 11:30:20 am
yes kevin\'s note said not to trust the captain, but is "kevin" ben\'s man on the boat? if that\'s the case, then ben could be filling his head with all sorts of crazy shit. ben does NOT want these people on the island. it\'s hard to tell who the good guys are...
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on March 14, 2008, 12:49:59 pm
I think jin was a flash forward. There are too many people for the oceanic 6 if you count him, but what if he is working for ben like sayid is? Then he wouldn\'t be counted because he wouldn\'t be one of the group to go out, he would have snuck off with ben. Maybe not. Still though I think it\'s a flash forward. That looked like sun in the bed and by delivering the panda with the impression of it being simply a business negotiation gift he was able to get in and see sun again, and see the child, while still staying off of everyone\'s radar that he is alive.
Plus there are just too many things going on with someone stealing the panda and running over the phone with the motorcycles, and then having to pay more than double for the second panda...
He was VERY insistent that he needed a panda, so maybe that was a signal of some kind for sun that he was alive and ok. Also, when he tied the ribbon around the bear, it was a blue ribbon symbolizing boys, not girls and this was a girl. Sure the ribbon was randomly picked up at the last moment but this show puts too much detail in for that kind of a slip. Should have been pink. It also shows a difference between this and the first panda in case the other one is given as well.
OK, so my theory is this: sun had to get off the island in order to live/save the baby. If it came down to it and only a few were able to go, Jin gave up his rescue spot so his wife and unborn child could go and hence live. Later, he gets off the island, maybe with ben but no one knows he is alive. Empty grave (or the body off of the plane underwater), he tells sun if he can get off the island he will get her a panda for the baby when it\'s born as a gift from one of her fathers business deals, much like how they gave the dog back in season 1 or 2.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 14, 2008, 01:04:36 pm
no that wasn\'t sun in the bed there. totally different hospital room. sun\'s hospital room had the bed on the right if you\'re looking from the door, and this woman\'s bed was on the left. plus he was delivering the panda to someone that sun\'s father wants to work with. AND when he left he told the receptionist that he\'d only been married two months.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 14, 2008, 01:19:38 pm
paul, you pretty much spelled out every reason why Jin\'s was a flashBACK. it\'s pretty much spelled out in black and white.
- asshole Jin of old - still working for sun\'s father - big ass OLD nokia cell phone - it\'s a boy - he asked the guard at the door what it was. he said boy. Jin got the blue ribbon. - only married 2 months - year of the dragon (2000) - worried more about buying a stuffed animal than his wife having complications while in labor? come on.
Jin\'s flashback last night served no other purpose than to fuck with the viewer.
now, as i said in my post last night, i\'m not sold on Jin being one of the six for sure. i think he could still be on the island. even though he said "wherever Sun goes, I go", i think his conversation with Bernard about being married to Rose but separated from her "because" had deeper meaning to it. that\'s why i think Jin is still on the island. also, because Hurley said "should we, like, go see him?". they went to the staged grave to "visit" with Jin.. i mean, where else would they go to "talk" to him?
but again, if he is still on the island, who is #6? we\'ve got jack, kate, hurley, sayid, sun, ??. i\'m guessing michael, but who knows? we still only have 5 confirmed.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 14, 2008, 03:31:06 pm
yo what the eff is michael\'s deal? is he working for ben on the boat? was the whole michael leaving the island thing staged? where the hell is walt? WHAT THE FUCK!! I NEED ANSWERS NOW!!!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 14, 2008, 03:39:30 pm
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yo what the eff is michael\'s deal? is he working for ben on the boat? was the whole michael leaving the island thing staged? where the hell is walt? WHAT THE FUCK!! I NEED ANSWERS NOW!!!
ben sent michael off the island. gave him specific directions of a route to follow (assuming to the freighter). michael is ben\'s spy on the boat.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on March 14, 2008, 04:06:06 pm
i think jin and claire are both dead.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: ChiefBennyhaha on March 21, 2008, 03:30:06 pm
So We know Sayid gets of the ship and back to the real world, probably to work for Ben. What\'s Desmond\'s deal, can we assume he gets back to penny yet. Plus that\' dude\'s Ghey. Taa Daa.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on March 27, 2008, 02:00:32 pm
did I see a commercial that Lost is now on at 10 instead of 9?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 27, 2008, 02:01:51 pm
yep. moving to 10pm when it comes back since gray\'s anatomy will be back on.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on March 27, 2008, 02:05:25 pm
Quote from: davepeck;184562
yep. moving to 10pm when it comes back since gray\'s anatomy will be back on.
when it comes back? so it\'s not on tonight
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 27, 2008, 02:11:08 pm
nope. not for a month.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: weekapaug19 on March 27, 2008, 03:11:51 pm
well that sucks. Thanks for the info, I would have been disappointed tonight at 9
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: ulee on March 27, 2008, 04:58:36 pm
wow! lame. There goes my big "watch Lost online" as Friday night activity plan. lamer.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: sallyalli on March 27, 2008, 09:26:46 pm
bummed, just tried to watch lost... I should come on .info more often. whats up with the hiatus?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on March 27, 2008, 09:39:59 pm
they only had 8 episodes filmed before the writer\'s strike, and that\'s the 8 we got. they\'re filming the 5 remaining episodes now, which it what we\'ll be getting when they come back on 4/24.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on March 28, 2008, 02:13:21 pm
10pm! i\'ll be able to watch it now! i go to a meeting from 8-9pm on thursdays, so i\'ve never been able to watch it on tv. theres like 4 other lost fanatics at this meeting so it sounds like we\'ll have a good post-meeting ritual for thursday nights.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 23, 2008, 01:01:13 pm
tomorrow night, ya\'ll
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 23, 2008, 01:19:38 pm
FUCK YEAH FUCK YEAH!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! *jumps through window*
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on April 24, 2008, 09:23:57 am
BUMP! sooooooooooooo psyched!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 24, 2008, 10:20:37 am
tell me about it. my friends and i are having a viewing party tonight. very very excited. my mind hasn\'t been nearly blown away enough lately. so what who do you think blew carl and danielle away?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 24, 2008, 10:29:32 am
not happy about missing this tonight. :sadban:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 24, 2008, 11:05:42 am
dave, dave, dave, what on EARTH could you possibly have going on that is more important than Lost?
in any event, it should be up on itunes or abc.com around midnight.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 24, 2008, 11:10:27 am
well, i\'ll be at the breakfast show, but i\'ll be illegally downloading a commercial-free HD cap to watch tomorrow as soon as i get back.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 24, 2008, 11:57:35 pm
holy SHIT. what a crazy episode! so i guess dharma WAS widmore\'s! this is absolutely nuts. i don\'t even know where to start. my goodness... wow. GOOD episode.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 25, 2008, 06:31:45 am
"I can\'t believe you\'re just handing over australia to him! Australia is the KEY to everything (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_%28game%29#Common_strategies)!" -hurley, while playing risk :wah:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 25, 2008, 09:31:35 am
does anyone else think matthew fox looks like chris deangelis?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 25, 2008, 12:56:29 pm
eh... a little bit.
australia is a great starting point, but i\'ve been trying to work off of africa lately.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on April 25, 2008, 02:10:30 pm
sleep tight, charles.
JTFC benjamin linus is the most intriguing character on television. fucking welcome back!!!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 25, 2008, 04:20:38 pm
Quote from: davepeck;187408
sleep tight, charles.
JTFC benjamin linus is the most intriguing character on television. fucking welcome back!!!
scene in the desert: classic.
"oh, so look at that; you do speak english" :point:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on April 25, 2008, 06:07:35 pm
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 26, 2008, 01:51:57 am
weeeeeeird!!!!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: lele on April 26, 2008, 10:25:46 pm
This show is absolutely crazy!! I love Ben!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 27, 2008, 02:59:02 am
me too, but i don\'t agree with his perspective on his daughter. he allowed her to get killed. he had fair warning and threw a hissyfit when the dude saw through his manipulative nature and called his bluff. i don\'t understand how ben can blame widmore and go after penny. after this past episode, i wonder if widmore is not the horrible dude ben makes him out to be. i guess that\'s the real appeal to the show, not knowing who the good guys are...
jack\'s really starting to fall apart, huh?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: lele on April 27, 2008, 12:02:07 pm
Believe me...my heart dropped when Alex was shot... I couldn\'t believe that he let her die, but like Ben said that was never in the plan... (they obviously had some game plan...to ensure their daughters where protected...that all changed now & that is why he is going after Penny) Still love Ben!!
I like Jack...but it does seem like has been on the back burner this season & they are cont. to develop the stories of the other characters & that is great!!
Now...Sawyer...I Love Sawyer!!!! He is one Sexy man!!! :D
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on April 27, 2008, 12:35:30 pm
jack has been kind of a loose cannon since day one, but at the very beginning, he was exactly what everyone needed to just make snap decisions keep things moving in SOME direction. but now, i think his style for making random judgment calls is kind of obsolete... looking forward to learning more about jacob.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on April 27, 2008, 02:57:59 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;187529
me too, but i don\'t agree with his perspective on his daughter. he allowed her to get killed. he had fair warning and threw a hissyfit when the dude saw through his manipulative nature and called his bluff. i don\'t understand how ben can blame widmore and go after penny. after this past episode, i wonder if widmore is not the horrible dude ben makes him out to be. i guess that\'s the real appeal to the show, not knowing who the good guys are...
jack\'s really starting to fall apart, huh?
nah, this makes perfect sense to me; ben is manipulative and has always had things go his way. He\'s always had an upper edge and knew something that could turn any situation in his favor. All of a sudden he was stuck, so he bluffed and was called on it. I\'m not saying he never bluffed before, but this was the first time (I think) he had it called and lost something as a result. Since he doesn\'t know how to deal with loosing, he freaked out and threw a tantrum (this isn\'t suppose to happen/have the smoke kill them). He\'s just a little brat who never learned how to cope with not winning all the time. Now it\'s just the classic eye for an eye plot.
Quote from: lele;187549
Now...Sawyer...I Love Sawyer!!!! He is one Sexy man!!! :D
Down girl!!! :rotfl
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: lele on May 01, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
...Bump for tonight :)
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: lele on May 01, 2008, 10:57:49 pm
what the.... this show is insane!!!! great episode per usual!!
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on May 02, 2008, 11:49:34 am
im suprised you were not looking at something else in this shot.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 03, 2008, 08:58:13 pm
okok... kate has an amazing ass
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on May 04, 2008, 02:42:13 am
Quote from: sallyalli;188476
im suprised you were not looking at something else in this shot.
man, that\'s a damn fine toaster. Where do ya think I could get me one that fancy?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on May 09, 2008, 02:29:08 am
MOVE THE ISLAND?
wtf....
and what\'s with richard, the man who never ages? this is all getting so convoluted. but i hear we\'ll be getting serious answers VERY soon.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: princesscaspian on May 09, 2008, 02:37:44 am
where (or when?) are they going to move the island to??? and whats the deal with all those freaky people who stay the same age? also, how does sayid get to the island? doesnt he have to get thru some time warp?
locke episodes never disappoint.... no exception this time around. crazy backstory. is this the first flashback of the season?
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on May 09, 2008, 10:19:00 am
i LOVE this show.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: FrankZappa on May 09, 2008, 12:09:58 pm
Quote from: princesscaspian;189126
where (or when?) are they going to move the island to??? and whats the deal with all those freaky people who stay the same age? also, how does sayid get to the island? doesnt he have to get thru some time warp?
locke episodes never disappoint.... no exception this time around. crazy backstory. is this the first flashback of the season?
I\'m kind of confused with the never ageing people. Also I\'m not sure if it means move the island in time or in location either. Where you have to follow certain coordinates to get to the location of the island, but is that because of where it is or when it is? Last night was a fantastic episode though! I\'m surprised how much of this show is destiny without anyone proclaiming freewill. Several of them seem willing to accept that everything is happening for a reason.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Jim Cobb on May 09, 2008, 12:18:49 pm
and the previews for the next episode look pretty good. it looks like we\'re gonna see the oceanic 6 get off the island.
also, did claire\'s pupils look gigantic in that cabin or was it just me?
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Post by: princesscaspian on May 09, 2008, 01:01:04 pm
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also, did claire\'s pupils look gigantic in that cabin or was it just me?
haha, shes rollin face breeeeh
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 09, 2008, 01:41:57 pm
she seemed a little fucked up....
also what\'s the deal with christian? how does he fit into all this?? the guy\'s everywhere, and now he\'s somehow in cahoots with jacob?
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Post by: davepeck on May 09, 2008, 01:46:26 pm
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and what\'s with richard, the man who never ages?
does he really never age, or is he just traveling through time?
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where (or when?) are they going to move the island to??? and whats the deal with all those freaky people who stay the same age? also, how does sayid get to the island? doesnt he have to get thru some time warp?
locke episodes never disappoint.... no exception this time around. crazy backstory. is this the first flashback of the season?
the moving of the island could explain why the survivors can\'t find it in the future when they want to go back. could definitely be just moving it in time, not location.
Sayid took the correct bearing, which would not affect him, time-wise. the doctor\'s body passed through the barrier, which apparently threw him forward a few days.
this is the second flashback of the season, if you count Jin\'s in "Ji Yeon".
this is interesting:
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It\'s interesting to note, that Abaddon means "destruction" or "the destroyer" in Greek, and is the name of the biblical Angel of the Abyss (thanks, Lostpedia)...while Alpert is named after a real world Dr. Richard Alpert - in the 60s, he became a Hindu, and the Hindu name he was given? "Servant of God."
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I\'m kind of confused with the never ageing people. Also I\'m not sure if it means move the island in time or in location either. Where you have to follow certain coordinates to get to the location of the island, but is that because of where it is or when it is? Last night was a fantastic episode though! I\'m surprised how much of this show is destiny without anyone proclaiming freewill. Several of them seem willing to accept that everything is happening for a reason.
"Destiny, John, is a fickle bitch."
and why wouldn\'t they believe in destiny? look at everything that has happened. guns "malfunctioning" on Michael *twice*, John surviving the fall, getting his legs back on the island, getting shot by Ben and not dying, and on and on and on. pretty sure i\'d start believing in destiny too. Lostpedia has a great section on Fate Versus Free Will (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Fate_versus_free_will).
all in all, another fantastic mindfuck of an episode. good to see Dr.Shep back in the chair in the cabin (i know some people were questioning it when we first saw it back in February), and with Claire by his side to boot!
loved Ben and Hurley sharing the candy bar.
loved Locke\'s drawing of the smoke monster as a child.
the whole looping going on when Locke encountered Horace in his dream was nuts.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: davepeck on May 09, 2008, 01:52:28 pm
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also what\'s the deal with christian? how does he fit into all this?? the guy\'s everywhere, and now he\'s somehow in cahoots with jacob?
if you haven\'t watched Episode 13 of the Missing Pieces Mobisodes (http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showpost.php?p=178473&postcount=32) that i posted about a while back, you need to.
it\'s pretty huge. a little less so now, but watching that before this season started left my jaw on the floor for quite a bit.
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Post by: davepeck on May 09, 2008, 01:56:00 pm
more good news...
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ABC Adds More Hours to Lost Source: The Hollywood Reporter May 9, 2008
The 2009 and 2010 editions of ABC\'s "Lost" will be 17 hours each -- not 16 as previously planned, says The Hollywood Reporter.
ABC has added two hours to the show\'s production plan because the WGA strike knocked three hours out of the current season. To partly compensate, the network recently added an additional hour to Part 2 of the season finale that airs May 29.
All told, the changes will wrap up the show with the same number of episodes that producers and ABC negotiated last year.
"We were supposed to do 16-16-16," "Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof said. "But we ended up doing 14 this season, so we owe two."
For the upcoming season finale, Lindelof promised a more action-driven cliffhanger instead of the mind-bending flash-forward time shift that stunned fans last season.
"The finale this year will not be as tricky as last year," he said. "Hopefully, this year it\'s a little bit more of a straightforward action-adventure narrative. But the ending of the episode will hopefully engage and intrigue people looking forward to the next season of the show."
and a reminder: next week is the first part of the THREE hour season finale, "There\'s No Place Like Home". there is a week off after next week, with the final 2 hours airing on the 29th.
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Post by: lele on May 09, 2008, 05:16:22 pm
another awesome episode!!! Love this show!!!
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 10, 2008, 10:55:30 am
you know I was thinking that looked like a metronome also and I was thinking about it. A metronome will keep perfect time. If time is slowing down/speeding up on the island then maybe you would be able to hear/see/feel the effects of the time fluctuation\'s with it?
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Post by: davepeck on May 10, 2008, 11:08:20 am
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you know I was thinking that looked like a metronome also and I was thinking about it. A metronome will keep perfect time. If time is slowing down/speeding up on the island then maybe you would be able to hear/see/feel the effects of the time fluctuation\'s with it?
:lol: well, the prop is a metronome. there\'s no way it\'s a metronome in the world of LOST. it would make no sense for Keamy to a) have it attached to his body, and b) point to it and say, "i don\'t think you want to do that" when he has a gun pointed at him.
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 10, 2008, 03:28:37 pm
touche\'.
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Post by: davepeck on May 15, 2008, 05:21:01 pm
There\'s No Place Like Home (Part 1)
bump for the first hour of the 3-hour season finale tonight!! ab.so.lute.ly.can.not.fuck.ing.wait!!!
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 15, 2008, 05:32:02 pm
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ab.so.lute.ly.can.not.fuck.ing.wait!!!
:that: :banjump:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: Vassillios on May 15, 2008, 05:35:38 pm
in the voice of mr slave:
.:jesus christ:.
i cant wait
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Post by: Vassillios on May 16, 2008, 10:50:54 am
Well, I guess last nights episode jus tsets us up for the 2 hour finale.
gonna be crazee
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Post by: davepeck on May 16, 2008, 11:50:03 am
i almost wish i had the will power to have saved last night\'s episode on the DVR for 2 weeks, cause i was definitely left wanting more when it was over! ugh.
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 16, 2008, 03:18:44 pm
"John, I ALWAYS have a plan."
fucking LOVE that guy!
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Post by: Vassillios on May 16, 2008, 03:30:00 pm
even tho he let his daughter die
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 16, 2008, 03:32:54 pm
yea, but that wasn\'t part of the plan. ;)
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Post by: Vassillios on May 16, 2008, 03:48:13 pm
trudat.
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Post by: BennyBoomers on May 19, 2008, 10:29:13 am
so I watched last weeks episode again today. One connection I didnt make until this time for some reason is that Claire\'s mom might know that Aaron is Claire\'s. She may blow that cover for them.
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Post by: davepeck on May 22, 2008, 11:12:42 am
Deleted Scene info from TNPLH: Part 1
According to the latest fan podcast*, these scenes were shot but deleted for some reason. The most important one deals with the story of the crash survivors that died. I wouldn\'t bet on the issue coming up again, but I\'ll hide the text just in case.
[spoiler]- The shocked faces of Sun\'s parents when they realized that their daughter knows English. - They also explained why the authorities were not waiting for Kate in Hawaii. In the second half of the Oceanic PR woman\'s line about Kate\'s legal matter being off the table, she continues to say that Oceanic has provided Kate with legal representation. - There is also a deleted scene where Jack explains that 8 of us survived and the other 2 died. Then, a reporter says don\'t you mean the other 3 since Aaron was not born yet? And Jack proceeds to name the 3 other survivors. They are Charlie Pace, Boone Carlisle and Libby. Jack explains that no one knew who Libby was because she hurt her head and she didn\'t even remember what her name was. Interestingly, her last name was never brought up in the scene.[/spoiler]
* Not the official podcast, but a fan podcast from Hawaii. They have been correct with things before. Should be interesting to see if these things pop up again.
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Post by: davepeck on May 22, 2008, 11:19:41 am
also, just a reminder about the Orchid orientation video that was released last summer:
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: krispy on May 28, 2008, 12:15:02 pm
one day eight hours and forty five minutes!
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Post by: davepeck on May 29, 2008, 03:26:02 pm
who\'s excited??
this guy\'s excited.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 29, 2008, 04:02:12 pm
i think i am going to poop my pants. :wah:
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 30, 2008, 07:13:00 am
ok, how has this thread not been jumpin all night? the dvr shit the bed on me (you can imagine my rageful explosion upon getting home and discovering this) so i started downloading from a torrent at about midnight and set my alarm 2 hours earlier than usual...
holy crap. first i gotta say, definitely cried like a baby when desmond and penny were reunited.....
they certainly left us with a lot to anticipate. i think i had the same reaction jack had when ben said all of them need to go back. that\'s gonna be one hell of a chore. and from the looks of things, it might get complicated with sun... alright folks, let the onslaught of crazy, out there, baseless theories begin!
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 30, 2008, 07:31:26 am
some interesting stuff... always neat to see where the writers borrow characters\' names from...
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Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748–6 June 1832) was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical, and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He is best known for his advocacy of utilitarianism, for the concept of animal rights, and his opposition to the idea of natural rights, with his oft-quoted statement that the idea of such rights is "nonsense upon stilts." He also influenced the development of welfarism.
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Influenced by: John Locke, David Hume, Baron de Montesquieu, Claude Adrien Helvétius, Thomas Hobbes
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John Locke (August 29, 1632 – October 28, 1704) was an English philosopher. Locke is considered the first of the British Empiricists, but is equally important to social contract theory. His ideas had enormous influence on the development of epistemology and political philosophy, and he is widely regarded as one of the most influential Enlightenment thinkers and contributors to liberal theory. His writings influenced Voltaire and Rousseau, many Scottish Enlightenment thinkers, as well as the American revolutionaries. This influence is reflected in the American Declaration of Independence.
Title: The LOST Season 4 Thread
Post by: BennyBoomers on May 30, 2008, 10:05:34 am
I think Sun wants to go back so she can cling to the hope that Jin is still alive.
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Post by: princesscaspian on May 30, 2008, 10:24:57 am
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definitely cried like a baby when desmond and penny were reunited.....
indeed.... we were on the edge of our seats when he almost drowned....
action-packed episode last night. i didnt think i\'d ever see so much action in 1 episode of LOST. by 15 minutes in, i knew it was going to be pretty amazing!
where the heck did the island *go*? how are they going to get back there now???
this is the first season that i\'m actually going to have to wait to see what happens... gahhh!!!
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 30, 2008, 12:07:36 pm
wow, so much information last night. Still processing. Penny and Desmond obviously one of the huge highlights and it tugged at my tears, but I felt just as bad/worse for jin!! The noise created and then seeing the water fill back in after the island disappeared, brilliant. Ben moving the island was shot incredibly. So many great great shots of him turning the crank.
Oh yea, and LOCK in the casket??? :wah: So he got off the island at some point after they moved it.
I\'m pretty sure jack\'s licsence plate was texas also when he pulled up to the funeral home.
such a great episode, some of the best television I\'ve ever seen. It was like a movie.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 30, 2008, 02:31:36 pm
once the show is over, i think i\'m going to take like a week or two off from my life and watch the entire series start to finish.
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Post by: davepeck on May 30, 2008, 04:26:03 pm
ok, first things first: kate\'s tits looked absolutely fucking glorious in this episode.
that needed to be said.
onwards... i\'m blown away. i didn\'t think there was any way possible that this episode could have been better than last year\'s finale, but as a whole, it was. just watched it for a second time, and still had wet eyes all the way through, even knowing what was going to happen. wow.
i absolutely loved how it started right where last year\'s finale left off. the sayid/keamy fight was epic. locke\'s "hello, jack" at their reunion was great. loved ben going completely apeshit on keamy and stabbing him in the NECK multiple times! his emotionless reaction at the end of that scene when john told him he just killed everyone on the boat was also terrific. "so?" also loved him turning the frozen donkey wheel.
hated seeing jin hopelessly running after the chopper. loved desmond and penny, obviously. both their kiss, and the sawyer/kate kiss were pretty huge. walt. claire. mister fucking ecko! (though i wish WE could have seen him). gosh.
locke in the casket was tremendous. i didn\'t see that coming at all.
what a ride.
this isn\'t a prediction, just an observation: the six feet under series finale continues to be the best finale any show has ever had, in my mind. actually, nothing else even comes remotely close, and i\'m still not convinced that anything ever will. however, let me just say that it wouldn\'t surprise me in the least bit if, two years from now, i\'m saying that the series finale of LOST is the best series finale ever. i don\'t know for sure if that\'ll happen, but i do know that they\'re capable.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 30, 2008, 04:47:08 pm
ok so after doing some math, i\'ve determined that doing it in 8 hour days (minus one hour for a food break), one could watch the entire series in 12 days (with the last day being a little big longer than the rest). so i say we find someone with a gigantic house to host the 2 week Lost series viewing two years from now. We\'ll all just stay there for the 2 weeks and watch the entire thing. In fact that should be a required team building activity for most companies.
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Post by: davepeck on May 30, 2008, 04:48:21 pm
promo poster for next season:
(http://zelleartz.com/pics/lost5.jpg)
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 30, 2008, 05:17:25 pm
thats fucking hilarious
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Post by: lele on May 30, 2008, 05:27:59 pm
wow!!...just wow!!...that is all I really have to say...I was working last night, so I just watched it now.... loved every minute of it.... awesome ending to the season!!! I can\'t believe that I have to wait until January to see how this unfolds.... oh yeah...kate & sawyer\'s kiss.....LOVED IT!!!!!!!!! :)
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 30, 2008, 08:15:31 pm
great signature there cobby.
So after all is said and done, (you know someone will do it) I want to do like jim said and watch the whole thing, but I want to either do it myself, or download a copy of it and watch the whole show re-cut into a chronological order and see how much different good/bad it is.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 30, 2008, 10:22:07 pm
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ok, first things first: kate\'s tits looked absolutely fucking glorious in this episode.
What\'s funny is my friend and I were commenting on her tits throughout the entire episode.
But after watching this episode, I am still left clueless. Christian is dead... does that mean jacob is dead? or is jacob the island? I am lead to believe the island either went ahead or behind in time, which caused it to move, since ground does move considerably after years and years. But maybe that\'s too scientific and not enough of a miracle.
So Jack fucked things up. But why? Is it because Christian is so important, and Claire, and Aaron, even though Aaron can\'t go back to the island? Though Ben did say \'everyone must go\' so what the hell?
Did Faraday die? He is pointless anyway. But Charlotte.. she was BORN there? what\'s up with that. Sawyer whispered something to Kate and I don\'t know if we were supposed to hear it or not, but I didn\'t hear it. It must have a lot of signifigance, though.
And Sayid was taking Hurley somewhere "safe"? I assume they are trying to get away from Jack and Ben because Sayid told Hurley they were not going back to the island. I suppose he could have been lying to him though.
And Locke. he died. how the hell did he die, why is he off the island, and who is running it now? Richard? And why the hell does Richard never age?
Until this series is finally over, nothing will be answered. [MAD]Grr[/MAD]
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Post by: FrankZappa on May 31, 2008, 11:38:26 am
rewatched it last night Faraday and his 2nd boatfull of nobodies were shown at sea when the white light/noise island moving happened. They never made it to the boat, which means they didn\'t blow up, which means they are currently lost at sea in a zodiac with only whatever supplies they have in those backpacks. Don\'t count Faraday out. he\'s a scrawny little wimp but I think we\'ll see him again to maybe help find the island or something crazy like that.
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Post by: Vassillios on June 02, 2008, 04:21:35 pm
read something that what sawyer whispered to kate was [spoiler]"i have a daughter in albuquerqe, find her, and tell her im sorry"[/spoiler]