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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: tyzack on November 11, 2008, 01:01:20 pm
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What is the "offical"/"marjority" post-Freakout opinion of Todd Stoops?
Will he play with the breakfast again?
Are there any other "rumors" of keyboardists out there who might join?
Was Jordan\'s show on Friday a "one time deal"?
Did I use "quotes" too much in this post?
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I wish stoops will play every show from now on with them.
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i "think" that stoops will not "continue" with the band "after" new years, but i "really" wish he would. he is an "amazing" player and the band can only "benefit" from his presence.
"stoops 4 life!!!!"
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i "think" that stoops will not "continue" with the band "after" new years, but i "really" wish he would. he is an "amazing" player and the band can only "benefit" from his presence.
"stoops 4 life!!!!"
"well" put
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I didn\'t like Stoops and my enthusiasm for Breakfast is still in recovery.
I always loved Jordan and wish he\'d come back for good.
Breakfast could use someone like Jeff Bujak IMO.
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as much as i loved and still love jordan, i think his return to the band would be a step backwards in terms of progression.
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stoooooooooooooops!
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19). Do yourself a favor and make the trek to at least one of these shows cause the last Jordan show was reviewed to be a pretty tight one.
That leaves the new year\'s run, Mill St Brews(Dec.26), Red Square (Dec.27), and Toads Place(Dec. 31), which I think Stoops will be sitting on keys but nothing is written in stone yet.
What will The Breakfast line-up be after new year? I don\'t think anybody knows the answer yet, but Stoops appears to be first on the list for keyboardist.
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I would like to see a couple more shows with Jordo but ultimately I\'d like to see Stoops commit and join for good.
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
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last i heard, it was stoops for that run. who the hell knows anymore?
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ya what the heck....
stoops would def be huge for teh b4nd
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as much as i loved and still love jordan, i think his return to the band would be a step backwards in terms of progression.
I would like to see a couple more shows with Jordo but ultimately I\'d like to see Stoops commit and join for good.
last i heard, it was stoops for that run. who the hell knows anymore?
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How is stoops on the panio? I think that was one of the best things Matt added to the band.
What about his synth skills?
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piano, synth, organ. the man kills it.
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How is stoops on the panio?
panis ?
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dude kills it on all keys.
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stoops : keys
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timmy : guitar
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stoops : keys
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timmy : guitar
get fucking real brah. even you know thats the most bullshit post you have ever made
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stoops : keys
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timmy : guitar
Biggest insult to Tim\'s ability in .info history.
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how many times have you guys seen stoops?
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enough times to know thats the most retarded thing anyone has ever said on this board
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enough times to know thats the most retarded thing anyone has ever said on this board
wow! that\'s huge!! this been some pretty retarded shit spewed on this board.
IMHO: post NYE there will be some huge, mind bending changes.
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probably not good mind bending changes
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I feel that this is the end. Matt and Chris were their saving grace, and Stoops could\'ve been their Hail Mary. I predict they call it quits. Too much heartbreak for one band...
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I feel that this is the end. Matt and Chris were their saving grace, and Stoops could\'ve been their Hail Mary. I predict they call it quits. Too much heartbreak for one band...
sad but true?
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I\'ll go see Trio shows, Sequoia shows, and any possible Matt-O shows.
Count me out if its his highness Sire Stoops. That\'s all. Somebodys gotta rep the dissenting opinion :shrug:
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wow! that is some good hate\'n right there. I\'d go if Barney was on keys. I mean I dig the breakfast. I don\'t try to tell them who should play or what songs to select. I just dig the band... some I like more than others. but I sure as hell wouldn\'t boycott them for not doing exactly what I want.
who am I?
Just a fan.
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stoops is da man on keys...if he leaves though who knows the future of the band...
if they do decide to call it quits, the last show should be held at the puppethouse theater at any cost
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
Glad to hear! we\'ll pregame hyperfunk style! SMASHBANGBOOMTRASHTHATROOM!
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
don\'t be too disappointed. I understand you wanted to see Stoops, but the chance to see the sequoia branch play with these guys again is on to be snatched up and treasured.
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I\'ll go see Trio shows, Sequoia shows, and any possible Matt-O shows.
Count me out if its his highness Sire Stoops. That\'s all. Somebodys gotta rep the dissenting opinion :shrug:
:wave:
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I feel that this is the end. Matt and Chris were their saving grace, and Stoops could\'ve been their Hail Mary. I predict they call it quits. Too much heartbreak for one band...
I hope your wrong but i\'m worried that you may be right. I\'m definitely gonna be hitting every Breakfast Show I possibly can for the next few months just in case.
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
don\'t be too disappointed. I understand you wanted to see Stoops, but the chance to see the sequoia branch play with these guys again is on to be snatched up and treasured.
I hope those birds are wrong, don\'t see anything on .org about jordan at daniel st. I would much rather see Stoops, but will be there regardless. I still love jordan\'s playing and listen to older discs with him playing all the time, but I\'d rather see the band move forward, hopefully with Stoops. I think the more he plays with them, the more fun he might have on stage with them, and realize the potential of this band with him on keys.
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I\'ll go see Trio shows, Sequoia shows, and any possible Matt-O shows.
Count me out if its his highness Sire Stoops. That\'s all. Somebodys gotta rep the dissenting opinion :shrug:
yea, but you want lizardfag jef buyak in the band?:vomit2:
NYE setlist:
1: Episode1, Mayfly, Rufus> Episode 2
2: SOS, Buquebus, Gladys Pimp > Spunk, Love Lake
E1: Eschers 1 and 2
E2: Grand Scheme of Things
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Why doesn\'t everyone just enjoy the band/music for what it is. The only thing that you can do to influence the band is to continue to go see them when you can.
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According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
Glad to hear! we\'ll pregame hyperfunk style! SMASHBANGBOOMTRASHTHATROOM!
let the offending begin!!!!
According to .org and some birdies, Jordan will be doing at least three more sit-ins. The Middle East (Nov. 28), Daniel St (Nov. 29), and the Field (Dec.19).
while watching Sequoia play is fine by me, I know a small handful (10 or so) of hyperfunkers that were going to make this one and won\'t if this is true... :(
we\'re still in. disappointed, but still in.
don\'t be too disappointed. I understand you wanted to see Stoops, but the chance to see the sequoia branch play with these guys again is on to be snatched up and treasured.
Most of the breakfast shows I have seen were with Jordan. I was pretty into them for awhile until I moved south. Bottom line is I wanted to see stoops play with the breakfast. for selfish reasons I don\'t want him to join the breakfast, but it would be cool to see him play a show with them.
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i personaly,want to hear more thoughts on this subject.fire away!
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Maybe because I\'ve never seen the band in any incarnation live, so all I\'ve got to go on is all the albums, 200+ live recordings and a few DVDs, but my take on things might be slightly different to many here.
I got into pb nearly ten years ago because of Tim\'s playing. However, what got me hooked was the cohesion of the band - all four of them. While Tim, Adrian and Jordan might have appeared the most outwardly proficient, I listened to Ron\'s bass playing mature enormously, so that rather than just providing the bottom end, he pushed them to greater things creatively and technically.
As the band as a whole worked on their vocals, the blend of Tim and Jordan clicked all the right buttons for me. So when he left, while I knew the band could go on, it would never be the same. In the Trio era, I did love the way the lack of keys pushed Tim to pull out even more, but missed those keys and especially the organ. When Matt joined, while I have nothing but respect fro his playing, I was not really a fan of the more acoustic jazz leanings introduced by him.
From what I\'ve heard of Stoops, he\'s more a return to form for me and I\'ve no problem with his being ex-Raq, as I liked them. It would be interesting to see what his being in the band would bring, not least in terms of an expanded fan base and perhaps greater commercial potential. His songwriting skills won\'t go amiss, certainly. He could provide just the right impetus to push the band to the levels of success they deserve.
Things change, I know, and the "golden age" of the band for me is perhaps over with both Jordan and Ronnie gone. (Sorry Chris, I know you\'re a bloody amazing bass player who has brought some real energy to the band, but my loyaltiy to the Save remains unquestioned.) So, as far as I\'m concerned, if Jordan came back, this would not be a backwards step, rather the welcoming home of a long lost prodigal son. Make the most of the shows with him - especially if the boys take the opportunity to plunder the old back catalogue again.
And as for those of you saying "this is the end", shame on you!
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If Jordan is playing I am pretty sure it\'s because Stoops has Job and family Obligations in the South. I\'m told he will be in for the New Years run fo sho.
While I as much if not more than anyone LOVE to see Jordan with them.. I think for the future of this band it will much more beneficial to have Todd in for good. I know he has a lot of responsibility with family and a job and stuff. I think for him IMO it\'s economics.
Hopefully.. They will be able to coordinate a touring schedule that will allow Todd to join for good!
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Why doesn\'t everyone just enjoy the band/music for what it is. The only thing that you can do to influence the band is to continue to go see them when you can.
that is what I was trying to say...
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I can\'t believe people even mentioned these guys breaking up.... sheesh.
What are the rest of the RAQ guys doing? solo shows? They\'re more than likely gonna get back together so a long term stoops is probably out of the question. it sucks because he\'d be good with the bfast, but lets get real. they need another chris on bass, except on keys. hell maybe i\'ll try out, i\'m unemployed and can\'t find a job in this damn economy. got a sweet non touch-responsive 49-key yamaha in my room... buquebus here i come.
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wow! that is some good hate\'n right there. I\'d go if Barney was on keys. I mean I dig the breakfast. I don\'t try to tell them who should play or what songs to select. I just dig the band... some I like more than others. but I sure as hell wouldn\'t boycott them for not doing exactly what I want.
Yea serious hatin.... actually I love all members of Breakfast I just always thought RAQ sucked and after seeing Stoops at Iron Horse I think he has skills but isn\'t a good fit for The Breakfast.
I loved Matt and Chris immediately so obviously I\'m a born hater..
Don\'t think I ever said anything about "boycotting" the band. In fact all I\'ve done over the past 6-7 years is talk up this band and drag people to shows across the northeast.
But when it comes down to it I simply can\'t afford to drive around going to shows if its not even going to be my dig. It\'s not a boycott. It\'s a "I have better things to do with my time and maybe I\'ll go catch some other bands while I\'m at it".
I heard Sequoia is playing Middle East so you will probably see me there... of course holding out my "Boycott The Breakfast!" fliers ;)
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And for the record Jeff Bujak (aka Lizardflag on here) is skilled beyond Stoops, Matt, or Sequoia. I used to brush him off too but then I saw the guy play live over the summer and the guy is a genius. Check out his myspace for real the guy has taken leaps and bounds in the last couple years. And I know he loves The Breakfast too.
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Bdfreetuna, chill with the deemsters.
I agree with everything boombox says.
Maybe because I\'ve never seen the band in any incarnation live, so all I\'ve got to go on is all the albums, 200+ live recordings and a few DVDs, but my take on things might be slightly different to many here.
I got into pb nearly ten years ago because of Tim\'s playing. However, what got me hooked was the cohesion of the band - all four of them. While Tim, Adrian and Jordan might have appeared the most outwardly proficient, I listened to Ron\'s bass playing mature enormously, so that rather than just providing the bottom end, he pushed them to greater things creatively and technically.
As the band as a whole worked on their vocals, the blend of Tim and Jordan clicked all the right buttons for me. So when he left, while I knew the band could go on, it would never be the same. In the Trio era, I did love the way the lack of keys pushed Tim to pull out even more, but missed those keys and especially the organ. When Matt joined, while I have nothing but respect fro his playing, I was not really a fan of the more acoustic jazz leanings introduced by him.
From what I\'ve heard of Stoops, he\'s more a return to form for me and I\'ve no problem with his being ex-Raq, as I liked them. It would be interesting to see what his being in the band would bring, not least in terms of an expanded fan base and perhaps greater commercial potential. His songwriting skills won\'t go amiss, certainly. He could provide just the right impetus to push the band to the levels of success they deserve.
Things change, I know, and the "golden age" of the band for me is perhaps over with both Jordan and Ronnie gone. (Sorry Chris, I know you\'re a bloody amazing bass player who has brought some real energy to the band, but my loyaltiy to the Save remains unquestioned.) So, as far as I\'m concerned, if Jordan came back, this would not be a backwards step, rather the welcoming home of a long lost prodigal son. Make the most of the shows with him - especially if the boys take the opportunity to plunder the old back catalogue again.
And as for those of you saying "this is the end", shame on you!
Boombox, I\'m gonna throw a bake sale to raise money to get you across the pond for the new years run- tell your kid to get ready.
and after that, bring on Stoops!
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we could hold a fundraising baked sale on whaley\'s birthday. i don\'t KNOW anything, but i\'m pretty sure that the things causing jordan to make the decision he did are still very much in play (ie. family, job, mortgage) the guy plays one (fucking unbelievably great) show and it doesn\'t change a thing. i made sure to be there to see him and i hope to see him again....but he\'s not likely to be the answer. stoops is where it\'s at IMHO.
i will be disappointed if he\'s not at daniel street. i was hoping for ser epicness....
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Bdfreetuna, chill with the deemsters.
I got a line of yayo you can blow off my shlong...
more up your alley?
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Peep BDfreetuna gettin desperate for male love.
While I defend your right to same sex lovin\', I will politely decline.
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I don\'t understand what all y\'all have against stoops.
He rocked the super man custom and played pretty well for a first run...my only critique is that he didn\'t have the "acustic jazziness" of Matt which I had grown to really like.
but hey, he\'s a professional and I\'m not.
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This thread has inspired me.. from jambands.com
The Breakfast: Back To The Future With Jordan Giangrecco?
Jordan Giangrecco was the founding keyboardist for Connecticut\'s Psychedelic Breakfast, which won the 2004 New Groove Jammy and later shorten its name to The Breakfast. In 2006, Giangrecco left the group, with Matt Oestreicher joining in his stead. Earlier this year Oestreicher opted to move on as well and RAQ keyboard player Todd Stoops has performed most of the recent shows with the quartet. However, this past weekend at the Bear and Grill in Fairfield, CT, Stoops was off and Giangrecco once again appeared with The Breakfast. Giangrecco also sang lead on a number of older tunes that he originally co-authored: "See the Light," "Doughboy," "Vermont Song," "The "Chase" and "Puppetry." Stoops will be back for the band\'s next show at the Middle East in Cambridge, MA on November 28. However, Giangrecco will perform with the Breakfast on December 19 at the Field in Bridgeport, CT and as yet the band has not announced what will follow in 2009.
BTW - Jambands does take some editorial liberties so if any info in this story is incorrect.. not my fault
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when did he decide to add that extra C? :fart:
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This thread has inspired me.. from jambands.com
The Breakfast: Back To The Future With Jordan Giangrecco?
Jordan Giangrecco was the founding keyboardist for Connecticut\'s Psychedelic Breakfast, which won the 2004 New Groove Jammy and later shorten its name to The Breakfast. In 2006, Giangrecco left the group, with Matt Oestreicher joining in his stead. Earlier this year Oestreicher opted to move on as well and RAQ keyboard player Todd Stoops has performed most of the recent shows with the quartet. However, this past weekend at the Bear and Grill in Fairfield, CT, Stoops was off and Giangrecco once again appeared with The Breakfast. Giangrecco also sang lead on a number of older tunes that he originally co-authored: "See the Light," "Doughboy," "Vermont Song," "The "Chase" and "Puppetry." Stoops will be back for the band\'s next show at the Middle East in Cambridge, MA on November 28. However, Giangrecco will perform with the Breakfast on December 19 at the Field in Bridgeport, CT and as yet the band has not announced what will follow in 2009.
BTW - Jambands does take some editorial liberties so if any info in this story is incorrect.. not my fault
what does this mean for the daniel street show? i need answers people.
also, i don\'t think the band should have announced that stoops would be playing with them the rest of the year if that is not true. this is just the opinion of a bitter raq fan, but seriously i\'ve had my hopes up for this show since i found out i would be in ct that weekend.
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thanx ,any more thoughts or ideas?
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If bringing on Todd full time requires abandoning some things Breakfast, embracing some things Raq, and having an entirely new band emerge from the creation- then put my name first on the "will attend" list, and godspeed gentlemen.
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If bringing on Todd full time requires abandoning some things Breakfast, embracing some things Raq, and having an entirely new band emerge from the creation- then put my name first on the "will attend" list, and godspeed gentlemen.
ABsolutely DITTO!
BTW - I thought Todd was finishing out 2008 with them. Obviously they can\'t jet him around for every show so I think Jordan helping them out until they figure it all out is way cool.
Don\'t be bitter about RAQ .. I don\'t think they\'re splitting.. I think they are slowing down a bit. If (GODFORBID) Breakfast split and one of the guys found a home in a like minded band.. I\'d be sad but psyched about the possibilities.
Bottom line.. Something will happen and whatever it is.. we all gotta be there and support. The Truth lies in the music.. and you can quote me on that!
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After the seeing Jordan last week at the Bear and Grill, I\'m hoping he will play a few more shows with them. Just my opinion. :biggrin:
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If bringing on Todd full time requires abandoning some things Breakfast, embracing some things Raq, and having an entirely new band emerge from the creation- then put my name first on the "will attend" list, and godspeed gentlemen.
ABsolutely DITTO!
BTW - I thought Todd was finishing out 2008 with them. Obviously they can\'t jet him around for every show so I think Jordan helping them out until they figure it all out is way cool.
Don\'t be bitter about RAQ .. I don\'t think they\'re splitting.. I think they are slowing down a bit. If (GODFORBID) Breakfast split and one of the guys found a home in a like minded band.. I\'d be sad but psyched about the possibilities.
Bottom line.. Something will happen and whatever it is.. we all gotta be there and support. The Truth lies in the music.. and you can quote me on that!
ding ding ding!
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If bringing on Todd full time requires abandoning some things Breakfast, embracing some things Raq, and having an entirely new band emerge from the creation- then put my name first on the "will attend" list, and godspeed gentlemen.
add me aswell!
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I will see The Breakfast regardless of whether the keyboard player is Jordan, Stoops, Barney the Dinosaur, or nobody at all. If Tim or Adrian ever quit the band, that would be an entirely different situation.
As I posted in the Higher Ground show thread:
Stoops is nasty.
I\'m sold.
Psygn him.
If they brought on Stoops and went for a major rebranding/repositioning, including changing the band name and/or seriously overhauling the catlog, I would support that. I obviously love the current catalog but I would still support them if they did this.
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If they brought on Stoops and went for a major rebranding/repositioning, including changing the band name and/or seriously overhauling the catlog, I would support that. I obviously love the current catalog but I would still support them if they did this.
Wolfy I love you man but that would be some serious bullshit were that to occur.
Maybe most of the .info kids are such huge fans of the band that they will stick around through rebranding, dumping old songs, and changing the direction of the band.
But keep in mind a lot of Breakfast fans are not on .info and if they go to shows and stop hearing the classic jammers its gonna be dunzo around here. The Breakfast have taken enough hits by changing their name and losing Jordan. It would be some kind of twisted shit for them to overhaul the catalog. You all may say you\'re gonna stick around but admit it. Most of you would be pissed if they shelved the old school songs.
If I knew I\'d have a 0% chance of hearing Puppetry or Eppy2 at a "Breakfast" show... well at least Phish is back.
Seriously I love The Breakfast. If sommayou feel the need to be dbags just because I don\'t like RAQ and their keyboard player, bite me. Last I checked this wasn\'t a RAQ board so I don\'t have to suck up to their weak ass music.
Last Breakfast show in Northampton literally 1/3 of the people there were my friends who wouldn\'t have gone unless I told em to. Another 1/3 were .info peeps. And 1/3 were people I didn\'t know or some RAQ fans. It took a lot of effort and hype on my part to get all those people out there and it was the worst Breakfast show I\'ve seen maybe ever. So that\'s why I\'m a little pissed. Most of these people won\'t come back because they weren\'t that impressed. Had they been to Sully\'s or any of the great shows Breakfast has pulled out lately they could have gained mad new fans and I wouldn\'t have to break people\'s balls to go to the shows anymore. After watching a lot of my friends leave the show just a few songs into the set... well it was a fuckin sad sight to see. I have been breakin balls for literally years to get people to go to shows and the one time finally I got mad people to go, people now think Breakfast sucks.
My "hey lets go see Breakfast" cred is totally shot. fuck it
/rant
<<-- goes to smoke a gay deemster
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sorry to hear that tuna brah. really hope your mind changes soon. i\'ll love these guys no matter what. not sure how else to go about it. thanks for it all tim ad chris, and of course jordo matt and stoops. dreams = not too far out of reach. keep supportin and trying to get folks to all the shows up till new years. we gotta keep this wild and crazy music goin
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Glenn McClelland is boss(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Glenn_with_ween_in_edmonton.jpg/400px-Glenn_with_ween_in_edmonton.jpg)
molitz would be totally baller too
(http://images.jambase.com/festivals/10KLakes/2004/MattSchwenke/Particle.jpg)
probably not in the realm of possibility but hey, these two dudes would be sick. I am content with trio, stoops, jordan, matt-o or whoever. the only concern is that it looks like getting long term commitments is difficult so the trio will continue to progress and then have to adjust/take a step back in order to add keys when available. Personally I thought Stoops was solid and comparing Northhampton to Burlington he definitely meshed better the second night. Tuna thats pretty harsh to write off a stoops infused lineup after seeing a single show not to mention their first show with him playing with the band. It\'s your opinion and you are free to have it but i have to disagree. It took matt a number of shows to hit a good stride. expecting a perfectly meshed/EPIC show after only a few number of rehearsals is placing the bar very high. If your friends left the show thats too bad for them. Maybe not the band\'s best night musically but I didn\'t see anybody who wasnt enjoying themselves.
I think if the band moves foreward with Stoops there is a good chance they will gain popularity. A number of raq fans would be on board and they are pretty rabid and support/promote the band. Some good press/buzz would happen and curiosity would lead to more people coming out to shows. Not to mention the musical progress that could follow. Changing the name is a bad idea IMO, as is totally changing the repertoire, which i doubt would happen.
If Jordan rejoined the band that would also be great. He has years of chemistry with Adrian and Tim and re-integrating with Chris would change the dynamic. The band would be very similar to how it used to be and still be different and progress in a different direction. Not to mention Jordon on Organ = the shit.
If the band continues as a Trio they will still slay it. Of course there will be haters. IMO Timmy should be more concentrated on guitar than the keys combo. Playing the keys/guitar works at times but sometimes becomes a wall of noise.
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Trio shows were da bomb, fa shizzle. But i dig keys like whoa. Either way, i love the tunes this band has, and the musicians are top notch, so i\'m all about it.
and play wild pack of asscracks.
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i\'m in the \'pick someone and stick with it so the band has stability and can improve and progress\' camp.
i loved the jordan show. wouldn\'t mind another (thanks for it not being the boston show, too much travel back and forth for me with the holiday ;) ) but something has to happen, and soon. imo.
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and play wild pack of asscracks.
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If they brought on Stoops and went for a major rebranding/repositioning, including changing the band name and/or seriously overhauling the catlog, I would support that. I obviously love the current catalog but I would still support them if they did this.
Wolfy I love you man but that would be some serious bullshit were that to occur.
Maybe most of the .info kids are such huge fans of the band that they will stick around through rebranding, dumping old songs, and changing the direction of the band.
But keep in mind a lot of Breakfast fans are not on .info and if they go to shows and stop hearing the classic jammers its gonna be dunzo around here. The Breakfast have taken enough hits by changing their name and losing Jordan. It would be some kind of twisted shit for them to overhaul the catalog. You all may say you\'re gonna stick around but admit it. Most of you would be pissed if they shelved the old school songs.
If I knew I\'d have a 0% chance of hearing Puppetry or Eppy2 at a "Breakfast" show... well at least Phish is back.
Seriously I love The Breakfast. If sommayou feel the need to be dbags just because I don\'t like RAQ and their keyboard player, bite me. Last I checked this wasn\'t a RAQ board so I don\'t have to suck up to their weak ass music.
Last Breakfast show in Northampton literally 1/3 of the people there were my friends who wouldn\'t have gone unless I told em to. Another 1/3 were .info peeps. And 1/3 were people I didn\'t know or some RAQ fans. It took a lot of effort and hype on my part to get all those people out there and it was the worst Breakfast show I\'ve seen maybe ever. So that\'s why I\'m a little pissed. Most of these people won\'t come back because they weren\'t that impressed. Had they been to Sully\'s or any of the great shows Breakfast has pulled out lately they could have gained mad new fans and I wouldn\'t have to break people\'s balls to go to the shows anymore. After watching a lot of my friends leave the show just a few songs into the set... well it was a fuckin sad sight to see. I have been breakin balls for literally years to get people to go to shows and the one time finally I got mad people to go, people now think Breakfast sucks.
My "hey lets go see Breakfast" cred is totally shot. fuck it
/rant
<<-- goes to smoke a gay deemster
For the record.. the only "hit" they took for dropping Psychedelic from the Moniker happened in this immediate fan base. On all other levels going to the Breakfast was 100% the smartest thing they have done to help their careers. I do however agree that changing the name again would be idiotic. The only way they can regroup under a different name would be to abandon "The Breakfast" all together and start a new band.
Now don\'t misunderstand me. I DO NOT want the Breakfast to cease but if things become unsustainable... starting a new group with these musicians would still demand a listen from anyone appreciative of SER music.
As far as the Iron Horse shows... I wasn\'t there but logic dictates that the 1st run w/ a new member who has had little time to really learn the songs coupled with the fact that there was a theme... Maybe not the best time to intoduce a new fan. If someone is that turned off to never give em another shot... Fuck em! We don\'t need them around here anyway. Tell them to wait for the next Deep Banana Blackout reunion.
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One question... Everyone is talking about Jordan leaving the band as being a major hit, what about when Ron left the band? Chris is great and has been a great fit for The Breakfast. But seriously, did you all forget about the effort he put into this band and the history that is between he, Tim and Adrian?
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I don\'t think anyone will ever forget about Save. I also think that any time an original band member leaves.. the band takes a hit. Look at WSP post Houser. Fans wanted to hang That other dude. It took 2 years or more before they decided to bring in Herring (saved the band BTW) That\'s the most obvious example I can think of.
I don\'t hear everyone lauding Jordans departure or Ron\'s for that matter. I hear frustration over an uncertain future and anticipation over what might be.
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Josh - I don\'t disagree with you. Personally, I love the music more than most people believe... But I think that at some point it will be time to shit or get off the pot... I\'m not saying it\'s now, but I don\'t think it\'s too far into the future...
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For real Yoda. This is like the 4th uncertain future the Breakfast have seen. No new album/material in sight, no immediate marketing strategy, no fucking keyboardist= no future. If the band keeps on going at this rate it looks like Max Creek country for them, which is fine for this fan base because they just want their Breakfast, but is a huge blow to people who at one time or another TRULY believed in this band and would\'ve done anything to get them to massive heights. Sad state of affairs for everyone involved, though I will always be 100% grateful for the blissful experiences I\'ve had with this band.
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For the record.. the only "hit" they took for dropping Psychedelic from the Moniker happened in this immediate fan base. On all other levels going to the Breakfast was 100% the smartest thing they have done to help their careers.
Now don\'t misunderstand me. I DO NOT want the Breakfast to cease but if things become unsustainable... starting a new group with these musicians would still demand a listen from anyone appreciative of SER music.
As far as the Iron Horse shows... I wasn\'t there but logic dictates that the 1st run w/ a new member who has had little time to really learn the songs coupled with the fact that there was a theme... Maybe not the best time to intoduce a new fan. If someone is that turned off to never give em another shot... Fuck em! We don\'t need them around here anyway. Tell them to wait for the next Deep Banana Blackout reunion.
Speaking to your first point, that "hit" is exactly what I meant... in terms of fanbase. Can The Breakfast afford to lose more fans? I guess that\'s not a question for me to answer.
To your second point... there is so much SER music out there that people don\'t even know about. If certain members of The Breakfast were to start a new group they\'d have a few .info kids there but that\'s it. Talk about starting from the ground up?
And yeah I wish I could have dragged that many people out to Sully\'s or something but (unfortunately?) I live in Northampton and that\'s where my crew is at. So that\'s just the way it worked out. Since Matt stepped into the band pretty well right off the bat (yes I was there Vibes 07, he sounded great) and Dangle was wicked ser from the first note I was pretty optimistic that Stoops would be great as well.
To your last point. You may say you don\'t need \'em around here anyway. But I disagree. Maybe you don\'t know these kids, a lot of \'em are my festie crew and for the record they are absolutely dedicated fans to whatever bands they like. But now they\'re back on Bisco / Umphreys / Bassnectar / STS9 / DSO / Phil / Bobby / P-Groove (not RAQ, I don\'t know anyone who thinks they don\'t suck lol) tour and the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth. If Breakfast had put on a SER show at Iron Horse I could almost guarantee you a sell out for the next show and I doubt they would be playing at Iron Horse much longer.
After years of being the only one in my crew who gives a shite about Breakfast other than "oh yeah, their guitar player is pretty good but not as good as Jake Cinneger" I gave the band the best opp since Butterfield to win new fans in western Mass and it was totally blown.
Maybe you\'re right and they don\'t need these fans. Depends if Breakfast wants to play Sully\'s for life.
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After years of being the only one in my crew who gives a shite about Breakfast other than "oh yeah, their guitar player is pretty good but not as good as Jake Cinneger" I gave the band the best opp since Butterfield to win new fans in western Mass and it was totally blown.
Is it the agreed opinion that the IH show was that bad? I thought it was REALLY good for a guy\'s first show with a new band. I have never heard RAQ. I dug his jams, and more than that he looked like he was really into and really trying hard. I didn\'t catch any of the other shows, the tape of the Burlington show is great.
I support Stoops and think they should sign him. It\'s name regonition.
And secondly the only person better at guitar that Timmy is God, and even that is debatable.
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Most .info people and Bfam seemed to think it was great.
Most of the people I brought out to the show were baffled by the "weird cartoon music", thought Stoops looked clueless, and some of them left early.
This is the point I am trying to get across. These Freakout shows can either be a great idea like last year when they did Reba and Gordo sat in... that was huge! This years choice of playing cartoon music was truly retarded.
I guess I\'m not the type to hear "Pinky and the Brain" and think "oh wow that is so fuckin SER how did they ever learn that!!!". To me it\'s a waste of time, total buzzkill, ruins the flow of the show.
Thinking back at how many rediculously awesome PB/Breakfast shows I\'ve seen in Northampton I have to say none of these were Freakouts. I know, I hate fun. But I am obsessed with ser music.
I agree TPalms is better than Jake. But Trey 1992-1994 era pwns everybody. Get real. Go smoke a gay deemster and listen to Live Phish 10.
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Joe - I agree with you for the most part, but I look at it this way:
1. No new album - there have been so many line up changes, who would you have record the tunes. Let\'s wait until things settle down.
2. No new material in site - there have been 8 new songs written this year. I know that there were a lot of new tunes written in the beginning, but that was bound to slow up at some point.
3. No immediate marketing strategy - that is nothing new.
4. No keyboardist - I don\'t think that is the end of the world. If they get the right person involved, great, but I think that they sounded perfectly fine as a trio. Personally, I liked Tim\'s guitar playing when he had to take time away to handle the keys.
I agree that it looks like they may be traveling down the same path as Max Creek, but I\'ve been preaching that for years. There\'s a lot of people that are okay with that (not me, but it\'s not my band).
There\'s only three people right now that can truly say what the state of affairs is for the band - that\'s Tim, Adrian and Chris. Until something comes from one of them, let\'s not speculate on the unknown and take our fingers off the panic button. These guys have seen adversity before and have come through it before.
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ahh too much to readddd
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seriously... are you telling me you can\'t take 2 minutes out of the day to read 242 words... that\'s just lazy...
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To your last point. You may say you don\'t need \'em around here anyway. But I disagree. Maybe you don\'t know these kids, a lot of \'em are my festie crew and for the record they are absolutely dedicated fans to whatever bands they like. But now they\'re back on Bisco / Umphreys / Bassnectar / STS9 / DSO / Phil / Bobby / P-Groove (not RAQ, I don\'t know anyone who thinks they don\'t suck lol) tour and the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth. If Breakfast had put on a SER show at Iron Horse I could almost guarantee you a sell out for the next show and I doubt they would be playing at Iron Horse much longer.
Are you serious? Everyone thinks RAQ sucks. You\'ve got to be kidding me. People who don\'t like RAQ just don\'t get their music (in my opinion). They are one of those bands that you either get, or you don\'t. For us hardcore RAQ fans, it is hard to go see other bands because of the energy that RAQ brings. Most other bands are just boring compared to them. I like the breakfast. Not nearly as much as RAQ, but I still like the band. They do not put me to sleep like moe or umphreys. If Stoops were to join the breakfast full time (not gonna happen) it would huge for them. Stoops is one of a kind, and in my opinion RAQ was not the same before him. I\'m done rambling, but you all get the point. I miss RAQ!
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
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wow...ask and u shall receive,thanx guys.
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
most of *US*. i know a lot of people that don\'t like the breakfast.
meh. lots of people have bad taste. ;)
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
most of *US*. i know a lot of people that don\'t like the breakfast.
meh. lots of people have bad taste. ;)
why?just curiuos
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
most of *US*. i know a lot of people that don\'t like the breakfast.
meh. lots of people have bad taste. ;)
why?just curiuos
Tricky Ways.....
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wow. I so don\'t get the my band your band thing. how old are we 12? Christ I just like good music. Breakfast, Raq... whatever. It\'s good shit. why poo poo each other. This is dumb. This conversation is getting dumb. and we all look dumb for engaging in it. First of all it\'s just a band. Second of all (with the exception of a very few people here, it\'s NOT OUR BAND! If something changes and you don\'t like it anymore DON\'T GO! when new coke came out people stopped drinking it. That is your choice. Make it and shut up.
sorry, that was rude. I don\'t mean that. But this whole thing is getting silly.
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
most of *US*. i know a lot of people that don\'t like the breakfast.
meh. lots of people have bad taste. ;)
why?just curiuos
Tricky Ways.....
I\'m a tricky ways fan
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haha, thatguy... you sir, are funny... this place is a hell of show huh?
but for ser, BDfree, take your gay deemster, shove it up your ass, and smoke your own coke dusted shlong. right now you sound like the biggest almighty prick i\'ve ever heard with your "oh the breakfast would be famous now if they had just played the right notes for my gay deemster\'d friends". as if the future of this band rides on the coattails of a few strung outs from north hampton.....
that sounds mean, but really it just means-
"chill guy"
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i completely agree krispy. i think i made a few posts like that on hyperfunk when everyone was getting pissed at raq for not doing what everyone thought they should do. the band can do what they want. it\'s amazing how alike the 2 fan bases are.
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but for ser, BDfree, take your gay deemster, shove it up your ass, and smoke your own coke dusted shlong. right now you sound like the biggest almighty prick i\'ve ever heard with your "oh the breakfast would be famous now if they had just played the right notes for my gay deemster\'d friends". as if the future of this band rides on the coattails of a few strung outs from north hampton.....
:applause:
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It\'s a joke because both bands will have trouble filling Nectar\'s for the rest of their careers.
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haha, thatguy... you sir, are funny... this place is a hell of show huh?
i love it!
but for ser, BDfree, take your gay deemster, shove it up your ass, and smoke your own coke dusted shlong. right now you sound like the biggest almighty prick i\'ve ever heard with your "oh the breakfast would be famous now if they had just played the right notes for my gay deemster\'d friends". as if the future of this band rides on the coattails of a few strung outs from north hampton.....
thats funny shit.
that sounds mean, but really it just means-
"chill guy"
i suck at computers,that post did not come out right.
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i completely agree krispy. i think i made a few posts like that on hyperfunk when everyone was getting pissed at raq for not doing what everyone thought they should do. the band can do what they want. it\'s amazing how alike the 2 fan bases are.
Identical...
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For the record.. the only "hit" they took for dropping Psychedelic from the Moniker happened in this immediate fan base. On all other levels going to the Breakfast was 100% the smartest thing they have done to help their careers.
Now don\'t misunderstand me. I DO NOT want the Breakfast to cease but if things become unsustainable... starting a new group with these musicians would still demand a listen from anyone appreciative of SER music.
As far as the Iron Horse shows... I wasn\'t there but logic dictates that the 1st run w/ a new member who has had little time to really learn the songs coupled with the fact that there was a theme... Maybe not the best time to intoduce a new fan. If someone is that turned off to never give em another shot... Fuck em! We don\'t need them around here anyway. Tell them to wait for the next Deep Banana Blackout reunion.
Speaking to your first point, that "hit" is exactly what I meant... in terms of fanbase. Can The Breakfast afford to lose more fans? I guess that\'s not a question for me to answer.
To your second point... there is so much SER music out there that people don\'t even know about. If certain members of The Breakfast were to start a new group they\'d have a few .info kids there but that\'s it. Talk about starting from the ground up?
And yeah I wish I could have dragged that many people out to Sully\'s or something but (unfortunately?) I live in Northampton and that\'s where my crew is at. So that\'s just the way it worked out. Since Matt stepped into the band pretty well right off the bat (yes I was there Vibes 07, he sounded great) and Dangle was wicked ser from the first note I was pretty optimistic that Stoops would be great as well.
To your last point. You may say you don\'t need \'em around here anyway. But I disagree. Maybe you don\'t know these kids, a lot of \'em are my festie crew and for the record they are absolutely dedicated fans to whatever bands they like. But now they\'re back on Bisco / Umphreys / Bassnectar / STS9 / DSO / Phil / Bobby / P-Groove (not RAQ, I don\'t know anyone who thinks they don\'t suck lol) tour and the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth. If Breakfast had put on a SER show at Iron Horse I could almost guarantee you a sell out for the next show and I doubt they would be playing at Iron Horse much longer.
After years of being the only one in my crew who gives a shite about Breakfast other than "oh yeah, their guitar player is pretty good but not as good as Jake Cinneger" I gave the band the best opp since Butterfield to win new fans in western Mass and it was totally blown.
Maybe you\'re right and they don\'t need these fans. Depends if Breakfast wants to play Sully\'s for life.
A "hit" round here isn\'t really a hit. We are die hard and we\'ll all be here no matter what. (maybe not you from the sound of it.. but most of us)
Being sentenced to Max Ceekdom is the band = of purgatory and the seeds for that have been sewn for years. This current crisis is not the catalyst.
I agree with Ryan.. I can\'t imagine the shows were as bad as you are making them out to be
I would NEVER say they don\'t need new fans but geez.. should they pander to few heads at 1 show. I wasn\'t crazy about the choice of themes but whatever.. they are kind of dorks ( i say this with the most affection for their dorkiness) and that\'s what they decided to do. It just so happens that you bring some peeps and they don\'t dig it. For you to say that
"the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth." Speaks to the kind of music snobbery that has been part of the problem since the bands inception.
If you want the truth..The name Psychedelic Breakfast was the biggest road block they ever faced coupled with a bullshit secondary market like CT. When they should have been thriving in the wave of the jamband movement ..we were being told promoters and fans alike wouldn\'t even listen because of the name. This band scratched and clawed their way to every good thing that happened. (correction: Someone scratched and clawed on their behalf but whatever..) It was brutally difficult and to be frank.. their work ethic wasn\'t always the best either... I digress.. flash forward..
Benevento Russo have like 3 bands.. MMW has a few ... members of Phish have other projects.. Biscuits, Umphrey\'s, Particle, the list goes on. The bands that do this not only start with a leg up but also expand the fan base immediately. Not that this is happening but no big E if it did. It would probably be slammin and some of those snobs would come back and listen cause the name would be something cool like.. TOMATOTRON :D
OK.. breathe... Wooosaaaa.....woooosaaaaa
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i for one love the music this band makes.
i\'d agree the cartoon theme seemed a bit trite. i don\'t think bdfree is being \'gay\' whatsoever. he\'s saying he loves the band very much but he doesn\'t agree with an \'artistic\' choice they made. that\'s ok. i didn\'t think it was their best career move either to be honest, but i saw it as a relatively fun, yet corny theme. i was at the oberlin show, saw the band soundcheck, showing stoops around etc. and i thought for only a few days of practice, they handled the whole situation well.
that being said, people i met that weekend after the show for the most part said verbatim, \'man that band was so silly\'. that was their reaction to the band we love so much on this board.
i think that everyone here understands the brilliance of a musician like tim and knows they he will in the end make some sort of decision in the right direction..(same goes for the other members). i really dislike uncertainty when it comes to the breakfast. not having a foreseeable album and no set band is very concerning. however, i guess it can also add an element of surprise, ie: sit ins. let\'s just hope that the music stays alive one way or another.
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peaches I don\'t get your problem kid. We all have different opinions on this shit. If you have one, state it. If not, shut the fuck up.
Yea I may be a little emotional about this issue. Pardon me. I probably had 40 shows under my belt by the time you even heard of the band and began your campaign of non-stop fanboyism. So yea I realize I am being a little dick about it but it\'s my opinion and that\'s that.
Your response to me, on the other hand, took "dick" to a higher and personal level. I\'m not gonna go there, so whatever. Enjoy yourself.
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BDfree, I\'m with ya man. I used to bring heads to shows only to have them walk away in boredom. Believe it or not the "burnouts" that people keep taking potshots at ARE the key demographic for the majority of this scene.
I would hear a million and one excuses as to why they wouldn\'t see tB again. I gave up. I still play Moxy for people to try to stir interest, but I don\'t force it on them or speak of them as if they were the second coming of Phish. If anything I just speak the truth: "No management, poor attitude, no marketing, big egos..."
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what is a deemster, by the way? im guessing it is some sort of drug/pill...slang term for something else?
slang for DMT ... one of the healthiest and most enlightening drugs known to man. Everything in moderation. I\'m guessing some people don\'t like the stuff after smoking it when all they see is visuals of power tools. Then probably read online that these are just fragments of your own inner consciousness.
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Joe, I feel you man, and thanks for offering a bit of support. I guess that is what I have been going through as well. As of 10-30-08 I do give up on tryin to drag kids out to shows or working promo. Not like I could anymore even if I wanted to as my cred is pretty much shot when it comes to telling people Breakfast rules. I\'ll see the band at festivals or if they play Sullys or Iron Horse.
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Sorry if I have played a divisive role in this thread. I really just came in here to put my 2 cents in like everybody gets to. I understand there is and always has been a strong push back against saying something people\'s favorite band is doing sucks. I love this band and PB/TB has played a large role in my life in the last 6 years, showing me some of the best times ever and also helping me through the bad.
I love Tim. I love Adrian. I love Dangle. Stoops sucks. SOOOOORRRRYYYY
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what is a deemster, by the way? im guessing it is some sort of drug/pill...slang term for something else?
slang for DMT ... one of the healthiest and most enlightening drugs known to man. Everything in moderation. I\'m guessing peaches doesn\'t like the stuff after smoking it all he saw was visuals of power tools. Then probably read online that these are just fragments of your own inner consciousness.
DMT is just a ticket to the astral realm of that particular vibration, which is incredibly dull and low in frequency.
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what is a deemster, by the way? im guessing it is some sort of drug/pill...slang term for something else?
slang for DMT ... one of the healthiest and most enlightening drugs known to man. Everything in moderation. I\'m guessing peaches doesn\'t like the stuff after smoking it all he saw was visuals of power tools. Then probably read online that these are just fragments of your own inner consciousness.
DMT is just a ticket to the astral realm of that particular vibration, which is incredibly dull and low in frequency.
It was fun, but nothing something I would do all the time.
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Seriously... let\'s all take a deep breath and remember that it\'s about the music... And let\'s not squabble over show counts, I\'ve seen the band over 100 times and I wouldn\'t consider myself more of a fan than anyone on this site... I think that this line of discussion is why I get so frustrated with the jamband community... They make the music/band/shows/touring such a big part of their life that when something disrupts it, they get all bent out of shape and think that the band is doing something personal to them... Seriously, the decisions have nothing to do with you. If you don\'t like the musical direction TB is going them download a show from a period you did enjoy, or God forbid, listen to another band.
DMT is just a ticket to the astral realm of that particular vibration, which is incredibly dull and low in frequency.
Can you explain this in english please, not everyone is up on meditation terms.
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thanx ,any more thoughts or ideas?
yeah, you guys should clone yourselves: timmy 2 could play the accordian, adrian 2 could play electric djembe, and chris 2 could play double neck mandolin.
but on a serious note, maybe in \'09 if you don\'t get a keys player and don\'t want to tour hardcore as a trio, it could be time to take a break and all work on solo albums....
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I think that they should take one show and turn it into a Weird Al cover night.
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I love that they have the balls to be silly. music is fun. music feels good. there is more to music than epic jams. this is what made Phish so great.
TON Timmy! TON Adrian! TON Chris! TON Stoops?!
Keep it fun brothas. I so dug the cartoonage.
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Wow.. Lots of hating going on round here. Cant we all just get along.
RAQ is/was..whatever.. a GREAT band. Anyone who does not think so... I know lots of folks who hate the dead and phish and dave mathews etc... music is so subjective.
Guys.. Support our friends and the band we love .. don\'t fucking hate on other talented artists just cause it taint ur thing and keep going to see live music in any capacity you can!
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Guys.. Support our friends and the band we love .. don\'t fucking hate on other talented artists just cause it taint ur thing and keep going to see live music in any capacity you can!
:that:
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thanx ,any more thoughts or ideas?
yeah, you guys should clone yourselves: timmy 2 could play the accordian, adrian 2 could play electric djembe, and chris 2 could play double neck mandolin.
but on a serious note, maybe in \'09 if you don\'t get a keys player and don\'t want to tour hardcore as a trio, it could be time to take a break and all work on solo albums....
we would be a hit in colarado.
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DMT is just a ticket to the astral realm of that particular vibration, which is incredibly dull and low in frequency.
Incredibly dull compared to what? Fucking 10,000 Jessica Albas and another 10,000 Angelina Jolie\'s all at once? ;)
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For me the "fun" part of seeing The Breakfast is the interchange between the musicians and the fans, and its fun as hell seeing people bust out rediculously awesome music like that. And it\'s obvious Tim and Dangle are having fun and they know when what they are doing is sick (it\'s a little harder to see the expression on Adrians face cuz he\'s straining from bangin those drums so hard!) and that in itself is fun to see.
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thanx ,any more thoughts or ideas?
yeah, you guys should clone yourselves: timmy 2 could play the accordian, adrian 2 could play electric djembe, and chris 2 could play double neck mandolin.
but on a serious note, maybe in \'09 if you don\'t get a keys player and don\'t want to tour hardcore as a trio, it could be time to take a break and all work on solo albums....
we would be a hit in colarado.
yup, especially if you started a peruvian panflute band (south park episode a couple weeks ago)
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i think stoops would be a good addition.
i think the trio could use less keys.
i think jordan, ronnie, matt, jim cobb, and, for shits and giggles, I should all join the band full time and have one big clusterpluck every night.
i think someone in the band should start banging someone infamous (lohan/hilton or the like) for the instant publicity. sex tape probably wouldn\'t hurt, though i can honestly say that that\'s one thing on the merch table i\'d stay away from.
also, i think the band should tour with the new mastersounds. funk revival, y\'all!
i think the band should write some more serious tunes.
i think the band should also write some more fun-time party tunes.
i think they should change the name to The Brakefast, just to fuck with people.
i think they should never play north hampton (since they obviously lost their entire fanbase there) or st louis (don\'t want two die hard fans to lose their street cred, after all).
i think the band should tour everywhere, all the time.
i think the band should only play the northeast, since that\'s where most of their fans are.
did i miss anything?
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Yes.............................
I think the band should bring back Ahoy!
See, I can mock myself....................
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After a slight skimming of the thread, I have to agree with Wolf. Creative expression takes many forms and is ever-changing. I have enjoyed the band through the changes for over 5 years now, and whatever the guys decide as a unit, is fine, because at the end of the day, they\'re just trying to create the embodiment of the dream that is their musical vision. Everything changes, everything shifts. We have to accept change if that is how the universe pans out. Now if this were politics I\'d say some change is not necessarily acceptable, but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
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LOL *with* Yoda!!! nicely played, sir!! touche\'!
and ds###, i wrote that while butt-plugging deemsters, i just didn\'t want anyone to think i was gaying up the deemsters....
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The way you feel about RAQ is the way that most people feel about The Breakfast... Enough said...
most of *US*. i know a lot of people that don\'t like the breakfast.
meh. lots of people have bad taste. ;)
why?just curiuos
there\'s only one person i know that\'s been a dick about it, but most people i\'ve brought to the breakfast has enjoyed it. a few have \'meh\'d\' it. either they don\'t get it or not their cup of tea. it happens. hell, i know more people who hate phish. and it took me a few years to really get into the breakfast myself after not really paying enough attention way back when you guys would play with rane.
anyway, not everyone is gonna like every band. more people in my life have enjoyed it than have not enjoyed it. and i\'m happy with that.
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butt-plugging deemsters
ftw
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but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops. This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift). If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.
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but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops. This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift). If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.
Ry - don\'t get hung up on verbage. Jordan and Ron weren\'t mentioned because they are no longer in the band. Any fan of this band gives tons of credit to those guys... They wrote songs and evolved and all of that. Christ.. we watched Ronnie evolve from being a mediocre bass player doing his job to being an absolute pro with the chops to match. When he finished tenure with HIS band.. he was a and still is a REDICULOUS musician!
On the other hand... If Tim and Adrian quit the band and Save and Jordan did not.. could you still call it The Breakfast...? I hate to say this.. but no you could not.
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just thought i\'d add that neither thebreakfast.org nor raqmusic.com is up/running.
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I was actually sticking up for Chris and Matt. Even after all the time I spent following the original 4, I considere(d) Chris and Matt members of The Breakfast, not sit-ins. I feel that until fans consider these guys are part of the band, there will not be any progress.
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just thought i\'d add that neither thebreakfast.org or raqmusic.com is up/running.
raq\'s website has been up and down for the last few months. the website hasn\'t been updated since june or july so i wouldn\'t read too much into that.
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you wouldn\'t?
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their domain name expires one month from today. i guess we will find out soon if they dont decide to renew it.
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beatles a to z tour?
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Ronnie Cain\'t Tour.......dammit!
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Wow.. Lots of hating going on round here. Cant we all just get along.
RAQ is/was..whatever.. a GREAT band. Anyone who does not think so... I know lots of folks who hate the dead and phish and dave mathews etc... music is so subjective.
Guys.. Support our friends and the band we love .. don\'t fucking hate on other talented artists just cause it taint ur thing and keep going to see live music in any capacity you can!
ha. haven\'t seen that word on these boards in while (peaches, youre on my ignore list)
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adrian - also, don\'t take it personally when you hear that there are people that don\'t like the band for one reason or another. all that matters is that there are people who do like the band.
every band has haters, just gotta accept that.
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i think someone in the band should start banging someone infamous (lohan/hilton or the like) for the instant publicity. sex tape probably wouldn\'t hurt, though i can honestly say that that\'s one thing on the merch table i\'d stay away from.
best idea _ever_
is TPalms the next KFed?
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almost an hour to read this thread. wow. i now realize why i am awol. enjoy.
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this message board is retarded
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.
this message board is autistic.
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its gettin ugly in here
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this message board is retarded
your first day? ;)
the more things change the more they stay the same
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OK, so I really want Stoops in this talented group. BUT...no matter what happens, I\'ll probably still follow the band. They could decide to write children\'s songs or play "oldies but goodies" at local senior care centers, but I\'ll stick with it to the bitter end. That is all.
:out:
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wow me, you are approaching 300 shows, god damn...hopefully they dont retire at 299
i wonder how many people are over 300, dave todd wah anyone else?
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josh kroop\'s got a lot, then probably myself > wolfman > gavin. im sure im forgetting a few others in the 250>300 range
then jen and brandon, pitchie, aruny and matt vallo are prob all around 2 hunj
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There were so many posts I was going to quote and respond to and now, after finally gettin to page 9 I forgot what I was going to say.oh well it would have probably been stupid/ignored anyway. LONG LIVE THE BREAKFAST
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LONG LIVE THE BREAKFAST
"Rise and shine to the psychedelic breakfast...jams good enough to put on your toast"
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josh kroop\'s got a lot, then probably myself > wolfman > gavin. im sure im forgetting a few others in the 250>300 range
then jen and brandon, pitchie, aruny and matt vallo are prob all around 2 hunj
dont know kroops number, but with no research the list in my best re collection go : fred, ellis, stevie, dave, todd, fitz, wolf, mandler, gabo
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i don\'t think bdfree is being \'gay\'
for what it\'s worth, i think it was the deemsters that were \'gay\', not bdfree... (although he was tryin to lure me in with the old \'coke on the weenie\' trick...)
peaches I don\'t get your problem kid. We all have different opinions on this shit. If you have one, state it. If not, shut the fuck up.
bdfree, i got no beef with your opinions, you are entitled to them. it is totally acceptable for you to hate stoops, the trio, and cartoon songs. however, in my opinion you sounded like a pompous clown right about here-
Maybe you don\'t know these kids, a lot of \'em are my festie crew and for the record they are absolutely dedicated fans to whatever bands they like. But now they\'re back on Bisco / Umphreys / Bassnectar / STS9 / DSO / Phil / Bobby / P-Groove (not RAQ, I don\'t know anyone who thinks they don\'t suck lol) tour and the only way they\'ll see Breakfast again is if they happen to camp out next to whatever stage Breakfast is playing at, and they are too fucked up to wander elsewhere. That\'s the truth. If Breakfast had put on a SER show at Iron Horse I could almost guarantee you a sell out for the next show and I doubt they would be playing at Iron Horse much longer.
After years of being the only one in my crew who gives a shite about Breakfast other than "oh yeah, their guitar player is pretty good but not as good as Jake Cinneger" I gave the band the best opp since Butterfield to win new fans in western Mass and it was totally blown.
Maybe you\'re right and they don\'t need these fans. Depends if Breakfast wants to play Sully\'s for life.
and i felt that needed to be addressed.
As far as my opinion on the stoops matter- I have already stated in this thread that I pretty much agree with Boombox, so to recap -
From what I\'ve heard of Stoops, he\'s more a return to form for me and I\'ve no problem with his being ex-Raq, as I liked them. It would be interesting to see what his being in the band would bring, not least in terms of an expanded fan base and perhaps greater commercial potential. His songwriting skills won\'t go amiss, certainly. He could provide just the right impetus to push the band to the levels of success they deserve.
Things change, I know, and the "golden age" of the band for me is perhaps over with both Jordan and Ronnie gone. (Sorry Chris, I know you\'re a bloody amazing bass player who has brought some real energy to the band, but my loyaltiy to the Save remains unquestioned.) So, as far as I\'m concerned, if Jordan came back, this would not be a backwards step, rather the welcoming home of a long lost prodigal son. Make the most of the shows with him - especially if the boys take the opportunity to plunder the old back catalogue again.
And as for those of you saying "this is the end", shame on you!
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The Breakfast play a ser show at the Iron Horse? That certainly never happened before and if it ever does happen, it\'ll prob be a dooz cause they already blew their 1 big chance to show NOHO how they dangle do.:rolleyes:
why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.
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josh kroop\'s got a lot, then probably myself > wolfman > gavin. im sure im forgetting a few others in the 250>300 range
then jen and brandon, pitchie, aruny and matt vallo are prob all around 2 hunj
dont know kroops number, but with no research the list in my best re collection go : fred, ellis, stevie, dave, todd, fitz, wolf, mandler, gabo
Dave might be the only one close to me in # of shows but I think I might still reign in the number with 500+ - I have an unfair advantage though..
BTW - breakfast.org is up and running
raq site is not...
Aw shit people.. let\'s get the energy in this thread pumping again
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this message board is autistic.
Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....
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why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.
Probably cuz cartoons don\'t have much to do with halloween.
Just a guess. If I were to go see a band on Halloween I might expect a couple spooky licks but otherwise I\'d anticipate something resembling a normal show.
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Wow.. Lots of hating going on round here. Cant we all just get along.
RAQ is/was..whatever.. a GREAT band. Anyone who does not think so... I know lots of folks who hate the dead and phish and dave mathews etc... music is so subjective.
Guys.. Support our friends and the band we love .. don\'t fucking hate on other talented artists just cause it taint ur thing and keep going to see live music in any capacity you can!
Well put. To use the examples above: I like RAQ, though nowhere in the same league as The Breakfast, Dead or Phish. I\'m not a great fan of DMB, though, especially on album. However, I wouldn\'t speak ill of them in terms of their musicianship, which is far greater than most bands who enjoy greater success. I just don\'t particualrly "get" them. However, to each their own - leave me to my jambands and 60s psychedelia and acid rock and I promise not to decry anyone for raving about Radiohead and Nirvana either !! :)
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why do n00bs think The Breakfast always plays cart00n songs? These were fucking HALOWEEN shows for fucks sake.
Probably cuz cartoons don\'t have much to do with halloween.
Just a guess. If I were to go see a band on Halloween I might expect a couple spooky licks but otherwise I\'d anticipate something resembling a normal show.
are you serious?
i\'m 30 years old and i\'ve dressed up for halloween about 25 times. i\'m fairly certain that at least 20 of them have been cartoon characters. adult and children time
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I\'m pushing ten shows and my first show was in \'02 :duck:
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.
this message board is autistic.
wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.
this message board is autistic.
Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....
I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.
but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops. This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift). If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.
Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.
Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.
this message board is autistic.
wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.
this message board is autistic.
Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....
I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.
but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops. This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift). If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.
Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.
Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
Helping people in need has nothing to do with how absolutely ridiculous this board is. I was merely satirizing a person\'s use of the word "retarded", an adjective I find deplorable.
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this band\'s lack of management/marketing/direction is retarded.
this message board is autistic.
wait weren\'t you the same guy who praises helping people and rescuing those in need (spiritually and financially) in the admin elect thread? this is like a reversal.
this message board is autistic.
Then you must be Rainman....k-mart sucks....
I love Kim Peek. (the guy who=Rainman) although he is an autistic savant..... most people with autism have cognitive deficits, which I\'m guessing was Joe\'s reasoning for insult. I guess without the arguing this wouldn\'t represent our various ideas that can still unite us in loving the bfam.
but seriously I love what Tim and Adrian do regardless of who sits in.
See, this is the mentality that doesn\'t give any credit to founding members Ron and Jordan and those that have come after like Chris, Matt and now Stoops. This isn\'t The Who (Townsend, Daltrey and whoever they bring along on tour) or KISS (You get my drift). If you don\'t start considering these people "part of the band", but only people to "sit in" there will never be a band, it will be The Breakfast: featuring Tim Palmieri, Adrian Tramontano and guest bassist fill in the blank and guest keys fill in the blank.
Being that Jordan and Stoops are not future perma-players (as of yet....) Believe me yoda, I was really sad to see Jordan and Ron go, because I\'d been seeing them play as a quad for a few years by then...I had Tpalms and Adrian in mind because they\'ve been a stagnant force over the longrun.
Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
Helping people in need has nothing to do with how absolutely ridiculous this board is. I was merely satirizing a person\'s use of the word "retarded", an adjective I find deplorable.
I get you... I agree it\'s deplorable to use the word...I was thinking you were insulting the band etc. and it hurt. It sure hurts. ;o( Wahhhh
Just trying to help the guys out.
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Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
God, I hope the dream wasn\'t in Enfield, I hated seeing shows at that place...
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The band hurts themselves enough without any outside help.
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oh shut the fuck up joe u little crazy twurp!what the fuck do u know.if u got nothing nice or intellagent to say dont say it at all.go away,PLEASE!
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Adrian, I have been an AVID supporter of you guys ever since I first saw you back in 99. I did my best to make you a little money back in 02. And for what? What was the payoff? The payoff was to help you guys grow into a successful band. It had nothing to do with me. Just like countless of others who have tried time and time again to selflessly help/promote you guys. I think it\'s safe to say that most of us are heartbroken. We TRULY believed in you guys. I wish you guys the best of luck in whatever you do and am very grateful for the shows I experienced, but I will NEVER keep you guys from the truth of A. the patterns of self sabotage you guys go through. B. How the majority of "jamband" fans perceive you. C. How much it hurts to watch something you believed in so much die a slow and painful death....
So call all the names you want, that\'s fine. Just know that some of us actually gave a shit and just because we didn\'t hit up 400 shows doesn\'t negate the fact that we were profoundly effected by your music and sought to share that experience with as many people as possible.
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fair enough,but countless times to go out of your way to insult the efforts that me and tim have put in to this is annoying.if u only knew the bullshit and saccrafices and blood sweat and tears we delt with u would change your tune my friend.i understand that u want to rip us a new ass because your disapointed,but we have tried probably harder than any band to make this happen and keep playin music.ten years and we made no money in our pockets ever.thats the real way it is.so if u realy like the music,take a fuckin chill pill...adrian
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keep pluggin adrian
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fair enough,but countless times to go out of your way to insult the efforts that me and tim have put in to this is annoying.if u only knew the bullshit and saccrafices and blood sweat and tears we delt with u would change your tune my friend.i understand that u want to rip us a new ass because your disapointed,but we have tried probably harder than any band to make this happen and keep playin music.ten years and we made no money in our pockets ever.thats the real way it is.so if u realy like the music,take a fuckin chill pill...adrian
Damn. An hour later I finally got to this post and could not be happier with the finale. This is where people need to shut the fuck up and stop giving the band so much shit. Hard times for everyone for sure, but incomparable to what the band has gone through and is going through right now. I was literally getting worn out at the objectification of the band members with so much self-interest at hand. Go Adrian. Go Breakfast. I love you guys. Time for two cigarettes.
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lol at "twurp"... haven\'t heard that term in a while
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fair enough,but countless times to go out of your way to insult the efforts that me and tim have put in to this is annoying.if u only knew the bullshit and saccrafices and blood sweat and tears we delt with u would change your tune my friend.i understand that u want to rip us a new ass because your disapointed,but we have tried probably harder than any band to make this happen and keep playin music.ten years and we made no money in our pockets ever.thats the real way it is.so if u realy like the music,take a fuckin chill pill...adrian
Adrian, people have time and time again TOLD YOU AND TIM TO GET A FUCKING MANAGER. GET A FUCKING DECENT BOOKING AGENT. There have been numerous resources at your disposal throughout the years. People have continuously thrown out suggestions and it\'s like you guys just don\'t get it. I mean shit, Kroop, there\'s a resource. I\'m sure the man made a gazillion connections in the few years he was manager and I\'m sure he was willing to bend backwards to make those connections happen. See, you guys shouldn\'t have to dispose of your blood, sweat and tears, that\'s what a manager is supposed to do. The one thing you guys needed to do was make a significant financial investment into someone who knew what they were doing. Someone with a professional history. The reason why RAQ came out of nowhere with a decent following and played Bonarooo was because their manager was Strangefolk\'s old manager (correct me if I\'m wrong). Dude, there are plenty of people in this scene who I\'m sure were willing to help take the reins. Sometimes you just have to admit you need help and can\'t do it alone. I\'m sorry you think I like ripping you a new ass hole, I don\'t and nor do I think I am, I\'m just pointing out the obvious dysfunctions which has plagued this band since the early days. The fact that your reacting shows me that I\'ve hit a raw nerve and that part of you knows I\'m right. Trust me Adrian, I love you guys and applaud the drive to keep going forward, but I just want to see some positive change, that\'s all. And a studio recording of "The Sound" ;)
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Oh and as far as suggestions--What are YOUR guys\' options for keys at this point (realistically or with a large dose of hope at least)? You, Tim, and Dangle make up the most talented Breakfast menagerie to date imo. I would rather see you three together trying to fill a void rather than any other three, seriously. So is Stoops even a reasonable replacement at this point or does his plate have no leng-term room for breakfast?
All I can say is (someone earlier suggested) Molitz and HELL NOO to that. I know it was a suggestion pulled out the \'ol brown holio but that hit a raw and disturbing nerve for me. He doesn\'t fit in at all. His sit in was a snooze and he\'d be a permanent waste of time. (btw I hate Particle)
lol at "twurp"... haven\'t heard that term in a while
I lossed (< < do you use "lost" here?) it for awhile after that. Classic.
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in a perfect world joe that seems pretty easy.but no,there were no such people interested in managing or touching this band..espiecialy after jorden left.u see you dont know what your talking about and i suck at typing so i am done with conversation.but know that we do this for the love,fun and dreams we have,and the connection between us and the fans who love diffirent and TRUE music.
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Joe - I\'m sure that Adrian, Tim and all associated with the band appreciate what you and countless others have done to help in the progress of the band. But seriously, continually pointing out flaws going back to the early years doesn\'t help the situation any. I can appreciate where your comments come from because I\'ve been on the giving end of it in the past, but for Adrian to come on the board and call you out and tell you that you\'ve gone too far should tell you that you\'re taking your "tough love" to another level. Right now, I feel that Tim, Adrian and Chris are looking at the current situation without blinders on and doing what they have to do. You just have to trust that they make the right decision for "them". This is "their" band, not your, mine or anyone else on this board. Yeah, we all have time and effort invested in these guys or we wouldn\'t be here everyday. Trust that they will the right thing and "ENJOY THE MUSIC". That\'s really why we are all here.
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not me. i\'m here for the gang bang.
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fair enough,but countless times to go out of your way to insult the efforts that me and tim have put in to this is annoying.if u only knew the bullshit and saccrafices and blood sweat and tears we delt with u would change your tune my friend.i understand that u want to rip us a new ass because your disapointed,but we have tried probably harder than any band to make this happen and keep playin music.ten years and we made no money in our pockets ever.thats the real way it is.so if u realy like the music,take a fuckin chill pill...adrian
Adrian, people have time and time again TOLD YOU AND TIM TO GET A FUCKING MANAGER. GET A FUCKING DECENT BOOKING AGENT. There have been numerous resources at your disposal throughout the years. People have continuously thrown out suggestions and it\'s like you guys just don\'t get it. I mean shit, Kroop, there\'s a resource. I\'m sure the man made a gazillion connections in the few years he was manager and I\'m sure he was willing to bend backwards to make those connections happen. See, you guys shouldn\'t have to dispose of your blood, sweat and tears, that\'s what a manager is supposed to do. The one thing you guys needed to do was make a significant financial investment into someone who knew what they were doing. Someone with a professional history. The reason why RAQ came out of nowhere with a decent following and played Bonarooo was because their manager was Strangefolk\'s old manager (correct me if I\'m wrong). Dude, there are plenty of people in this scene who I\'m sure were willing to help take the reins. Sometimes you just have to admit you need help and can\'t do it alone. I\'m sorry you think I like ripping you a new ass hole, I don\'t and nor do I think I am, I\'m just pointing out the obvious dysfunctions which has plagued this band since the early days. The fact that your reacting shows me that I\'ve hit a raw nerve and that part of you knows I\'m right. Trust me Adrian, I love you guys and applaud the drive to keep going forward, but I just want to see some positive change, that\'s all. And a studio recording of "The Sound" ;)
Um just so you know they do have a new Marketing person. I get e-mails from her all the time.
RAQ had / has management that had ties to Bill Grahman productions and many other entrenched folks. In fact there were attempts to get them in contact with the Breakfast many years ago. But things just didn\'t work out.
If anything I would say the guys in the band are loyal as hell. Perhaps it may have cost them some over they years but at least it seems that they have integrity and you can\'t put a price on that.
Things have developed slowly for the breakfast. Honestly with the new promo folks and management it looks like things are moving in the correct direction. Let us not forget that for all the time I have known Tim he has expressed a desire to conduct his business as Zappa did and Zappa was never a mainstream guy, and always did things his way.
These guys have given me more than I could ever express so for that I am grateful. I wish them the best no matter what they decide to do.
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in a perfect world joe that seems pretty easy.but no,there were no such people interested in managing or touching this band..espiecialy after jorden left.u see you dont know what your talking about and i suck at typing so i am done with conversation.but know that we do this for the love,fun and dreams we have,and the connection between us and the fans who love diffirent and TRUE music.
I apologize if my words minimized your efforts, or what you\'ve gone through. Between Matt leaving the band, and listening to Buquebus on the drive home last night I just had enough. It kills me that only a small number of people will ever hear that song, among the others. It literally brought a tear to my eye. I\'m sure you guys will make the best decision possible for where your at in your lives.
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Wow. I think some of y\'all need to find a hobby.
How about:
guitar strumming
fishing
stamp collecting
drum circles
hiking
swimming
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fair enough,but countless times to go out of your way to insult the efforts that me and tim have put in to this is annoying.if u only knew the bullshit and saccrafices and blood sweat and tears we delt with u would change your tune my friend.i understand that u want to rip us a new ass because your disapointed,but we have tried probably harder than any band to make this happen and keep playin music.ten years and we made no money in our pockets ever.thats the real way it is.so if u realy like the music,take a fuckin chill pill...adrian
Adrian, people have time and time again TOLD YOU AND TIM TO GET A FUCKING MANAGER. GET A FUCKING DECENT BOOKING AGENT. There have been numerous resources at your disposal throughout the years. People have continuously thrown out suggestions and it\'s like you guys just don\'t get it. I mean shit, Kroop, there\'s a resource. I\'m sure the man made a gazillion connections in the few years he was manager and I\'m sure he was willing to bend backwards to make those connections happen. See, you guys shouldn\'t have to dispose of your blood, sweat and tears, that\'s what a manager is supposed to do. The one thing you guys needed to do was make a significant financial investment into someone who knew what they were doing. Someone with a professional history. The reason why RAQ came out of nowhere with a decent following and played Bonarooo was because their manager was Strangefolk\'s old manager (correct me if I\'m wrong). Dude, there are plenty of people in this scene who I\'m sure were willing to help take the reins. Sometimes you just have to admit you need help and can\'t do it alone. I\'m sorry you think I like ripping you a new ass hole, I don\'t and nor do I think I am, I\'m just pointing out the obvious dysfunctions which has plagued this band since the early days. The fact that your reacting shows me that I\'ve hit a raw nerve and that part of you knows I\'m right. Trust me Adrian, I love you guys and applaud the drive to keep going forward, but I just want to see some positive change, that\'s all. And a studio recording of "The Sound" ;)
hmm.. Just I got a nod I gotta chime in. Joe - I tried for years to get these guys in front of anyone who would listen. We had IMHO a very successful run together and for whatever our internal reasons we decided to end the "professional" part of the relationship.
Reality is RAQ\'s manager was great. He lived in VT where they did and had a history w/ them while he was managing SF. He had major connects w/ Monterey the Phish booking team etc... They definitely had the business thing down because of that. We never had that luxury. I was calling these Superfestival owners personally and just trying to force feed them. I knew if I could get someone to listen.. they could not ignore it. It worked to a large degree.
There were plenty of mistakes made.. mine, theirs..it doesn\'t matter anymore. What matters is happening now. Besides.. the only mistake that really mattered in terms of getting the band more success happened when they decided on the name Psychedelic Breakfast :)
I think we\'re making much ado about a comment you made.. that maybe isn\'t as well informed as it should of been. Besides if we live in the past.. the future will go whizzin by and we\'ll miss it.
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Joe is now officially the only person on my ignore list.
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as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
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as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
:that:
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ditto - and not for nothing.. If they all do something else.. I still be at the shows.
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as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
:that:
ditto - and not for nothing.. If they all do something else.. I still be at the shows.
what they said!
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as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
as long as there is a band, im going to shows...
:that:
ditto - and not for nothing.. If they all do something else.. I still be at the shows.
what they said!
Yeah I\'ll quad that shit!
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not me. i\'m here for the gang bang.
I was here for the chicks (and the gang bang)...now that I got one...I\'m out...
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the breakfast should try to get a hold of this guy:
(http://www.musicbox-online.com/images/10k-lakes-2006/duo6.jpg)
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um... just keep rocking please. thank you. that\'s all.
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band message board rule number 1, dont get involved in disgruntled fan rants if you are a member of the band
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the breakfast should try to get a hold of this guy:
(http://www.musicbox-online.com/images/10k-lakes-2006/duo6.jpg)
That would be quite SER!!!!!!!!
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um... just keep rocking please. thank you. that\'s all.
THAT
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Rob Katz. nuff said.
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Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
God, I hope the dream wasn\'t in Enfield, I hated seeing shows at that place...
dude, don\'t hate on the barn. i loved that place, and have so many fond memories. :)
i\'m partial to this guy
(http://www.lipglossandlaptops.com/images/howardjones.jpg)
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Last I heard Nate Wilson is no longer in Assembly of Dust. He would be a class act for sure.
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The Wilsons used to be my neighbors when I was growing up in Sutton NH. Percy Hill = the shit!
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Oh hell fucking yes!! Color In Bloom is flawless. Same production as a Steely Dan album..
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I\'m def onboard for getting Nate somehow if he really isn\'t doing AOD anymore.
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Bring the ruckus Bring the motha fuckin ruckus
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Rob Katz. nuff said.
That would be very SER!! Although I think he would not be into this music AT ALL!
OK - so I think I have had enough of this thread. Let\'s move on to more important issues like.. The official "How Freddy Wah killed the Breakfast" thread.
I see a direct relationship between his lack of attendance and all of their current problems and dilemas!! :biggrin:
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Oh hell fucking yes!! Color In Bloom is flawless. Same production as a Steely Dan album..
just listened to Color In Bloom yesterday...big fan of that cd.
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Rob Katz. nuff said.
That would be very SER!! Although I think he would not be into this music AT ALL!
I agree it was more of a joke than anything. but a sit in would be splendid!
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um... just keep rocking please. thank you. that\'s all.
Couldn\'t say it better!
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These guys are fun and play really well!
Many other people feel the same.
That\'s why we go.
You people think to much!
They could call their band WE SUCK,
I would still go.They could play at
Dunkin Donuts. I would go.
How about calling the band, WE\'RE FUN
AND PLAY REALLY WELL!!!
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so let me preface this by saying that i have not read a single post out of the 190 (well, now it\'s 191) that comprise this thread...
that said....
ONE VOTE FOR A SECOND GUITAR PLAYER.
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I\'ve said it before and I\'ll say it again
The Breakfast with Stoops or Jordan and Seth Yacavone on 2nd guitar.. (RAQ\'s Chris Michetti would be fucking ser as well)
We could change the name to Braqfest if Chris and Todd joined!
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josh,unfortunately i cant take credit for the bands problems.
wish i could,but i cant brah.
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josh,unfortunately i cant take credit for the bands problems.
wish i could,but i cant brah.
Hope you know I\'m messin with ya
If not.. you have been gone for too long.
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josh,unfortunately i cant take credit for the bands problems.
wish i could,but i cant brah.
Hope you know I\'m messin with ya
If not.. you have been gone for too long.
good seein ya the friday.
got KRUNKED.
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Regardless of what happens, January appears destined for some downtime. Pretty sure last January was a slow month as well so they could relax and bring Chris up to speed.
Here\'s an idea that is not my own but worth sharing:
Tim uses the downtime and his Steve Molitz connection to play a string of shows with Particle (or any other larger band in need of a ser guitar). It certainly would aid the cause if the names Tim Palmieri and The Breakfast were introduced to more households.
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ehh michetti and yacavone don\'t impress me. it\'d need to be someone who could hang with tim melodically. playing 1000 notes a second doesnt mean dick if that intuitive melodic sense isn\'t there, and i don\'t hear that from either of those guys. they\'re both great players, but for me, a 2nd guitarist in the breakfast would have to have something extra. something all the practice in the world cant get you. something you\'ve just gotta be born with. you know what i mean.
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Sounds like you need to listen to more Seth Yac.
I 2nd a Seth Yac vote...
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ehh michetti and yacavone don\'t impress me. it\'d need to be someone who could hang with tim melodically. playing 1000 notes a second doesnt mean dick if that intuitive melodic sense isn\'t there, and i don\'t hear that from either of those guys. they\'re both great players, but for me, a 2nd guitarist in the breakfast would have to have something extra. something all the practice in the world cant get you. something you\'ve just gotta be born with. you know what i mean.
well said.
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Strange though, I had a dream that we saw the Breakfast and Jordan switched off to playing bass and keys. They kicked some ass, even though it was in an old barn.
God, I hope the dream wasn\'t in Enfield, I hated seeing shows at that place...
It was a barn somewhere in the south; it was warm and windy. A fire started outside and some people rushed in and took care of it. The show still went on!
I can understand Adrian wanting to get/receive feedback. I also agree that management is key; sometimes having a manager that is not in one\'s immediate personal circle is best- esp. when it comes to living the life as the objective business-minded outsider. I think the friends and fans are more for volunteering from the heart. NOT that the band is all about business, but if they intend on making it more productive, let\'s face it- it can be. Yet their being outside of the \'mainstream\' typical band sell-out is the reason I was totally into their musicianship. It also helps appreciating prog rock and jammy skills.
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I didn\'t like Stoops and my enthusiasm for Breakfast is still in recovery.
I always loved Jordan and wish he\'d come back for good.
Breakfast could use someone like Jeff Bujak IMO.
I would be there in a second. The chance to even perform on stage with Tim and Adrian would be an experience to say the least. I would learn a lot.
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dangle dooze is pretty ser too...:shrug:
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A fire started outside and some people rushed in and took care of it. The show still went on!
Oh that was just Dobz blowing up some sound equipment.
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josh,unfortunately i cant take credit for the bands problems.
wish i could,but i cant brah.
Hope you know I\'m messin with ya
If not.. you have been gone for too long.
good seein ya the friday.
got KRUNKED.
good seeing you too! you may not have noticed but I carefully removed all glassware from your table at the set break and replaced w/ plastic ketchup bottles.
ehh michetti and yacavone don\'t impress me. it\'d need to be someone who could hang with tim melodically. playing 1000 notes a second doesnt mean dick if that intuitive melodic sense isn\'t there, and i don\'t hear that from either of those guys. they\'re both great players, but for me, a 2nd guitarist in the breakfast would have to have something extra. something all the practice in the world cant get you. something you\'ve just gotta be born with. you know what i mean.
This is where I am coming from...
Take the Dead for example.. I\'ve sen 24 shows w/ JG so I guess I\'ll say I was a pretty big fan. I LOVE Bobby but.. He can\'t really play guitar very well (I mean in comparison)
Chris and Seth are both quite nasty. Very different but nasty none the less. Are they Tim? NO.. We don\'t need another Tim. We have one already. My thoughts are that either one would add a great extra dynamic to the band. More songs.. better vocals overall, a distraction if you will from Tim\'s 1000+ notes. I think overall a second guitar player would make their music approachable to a wider audience. You need only to listen to anytime Tim has played with either guitarist to feel their "synergy". So .. while I agree that standing along... mehhhh... Put them on stage w/ TB and you have a supergroup.
Keep in mind the chances of this happening are slim to none.. this is purely my humble opinion and has no real bearing on anything.
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dangle dooze is pretty ser too...:shrug:
:lol:
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I didn\'t like Stoops and my enthusiasm for Breakfast is still in recovery.
I always loved Jordan and wish he\'d come back for good.
Breakfast could use someone like Jeff Bujak IMO.
I would be there in a second. The chance to even perform on stage with Tim and Ron would be an experience to say the least. I would learn a lot.
wanna jam,i like your stuff.
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And another friendship begins. The circle continues....
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has anyone ever reached out to Jason press formerly of Rezi to play keys? Kid has more raw talent than anyone who has ever played keys for breakfast, plays INCREDIBLY tasteful and stylish shit, writes good music, already knows some of the songs, likes the music, would funk it up, lives in the nyc area, and could probably learn the entire catalog of songs in 2 days flat. pretty much the complete opposite of the corny, predictable, tasteless, "hyper-junk" that stoops served up in Burlington.
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I didn\'t like Stoops and my enthusiasm for Breakfast is still in recovery.
I always loved Jordan and wish he\'d come back for good.
Breakfast could use someone like Jeff Bujak IMO.
I would be there in a second. The chance to even perform on stage with Tim and Ron would be an experience to say the least. I would learn a lot.
wanna jam,i like your stuff.
Thank you. Drop me a line sometime... when I have time off the road, all I want to do is play anyways. :sonic:
yea, but you want lizardfag jef buyak in the band?:vomit2:
:biggrin:
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I saw u at the westcott bujak, I thought u were good at what you did. I dont know how you would fit in or hang with the breakfast but you got my vote over stoops but jason press destroys you both with one hand tied behind his back
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has anyone ever reached out to Jason press formerly of Rezi to play keys? Kid has more raw talent than anyone who has ever played keys for breakfast, plays INCREDIBLY tasteful and stylish shit, writes good music, already knows some of the songs, likes the music, would funk it up, lives in the nyc area, and could probably learn the entire catalog of songs in 2 days flat. pretty much the complete opposite of the corny, predictable, tasteless, "hyper-junk" that stoops served up in Burlington.
i dont know if you know this yet, but rezi is opening for TB at red square on dec 27th. Is this guy still in the band when they do their "reuunion" shows? if so, there should DEF be some cross talk at the show.
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newbers.. just planting the seed brah ;) hopefully it will grow. jpress is on or (probably) beyond the level of virtuoso natural talent, style, tightness, and sickness and insanity as tplams. what he could do with the bfast is almost unfathomable. wicked humble nice guy taboot. doubt it will ever happen but at this point its fun to dream.
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I saw u at the westcott bujak, I thought u were good at what you did. I dont know how you would fit in or hang with the breakfast but you got my vote over stoops but jason press destroys you both with one hand tied behind his back
Rock out... thanks! In no way am I saying that I\'m "better than anyone" or that I would be a good keyboardist for the Breakfast. There\'s no competition in music as far as I\'m concerned. And I\'m glad you think Jason could destroy me... but on the same note, I don\'t really care. I play music for the love of what I do. I know some people don\'t dig it... and that\'s OK with me (including some heads on this board...). I know I\'ve been playing classical piano for 24 years... I know that I practice over 3 hours a day... I know that I will always have something to learn about piano and music in general... and I know that I play from my heart.
So, seriously some of you... slam me if you want... tell me I suck... replace some of the letters in my forum name... that\'s just fine with me. I\'m secure enough to take it. I\'ll be over here practicing hard for the people that actually like what I do and I\'m sure the members of The Breakfast feel the same way I do. We play on stage for the love of what we do. If you don\'t dig it... move on, but don\'t try to bring down the one\'s who still love the band. Just the fact that you take time out of your day to bring up what you DON\'T like about a band means that you still care and that\'s why the Breakfast should keep going. (preach over...)
Now... say how "hippie" I am... and how gay I sound... and how I suck... I\'m ready for it. It\'s not unexpected. :disco: It\'s like a one trick pony for this forum.
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I saw u at the westcott bujak, I thought u were good at what you did. I dont know how you would fit in or hang with the breakfast but you got my vote over stoops but jason press destroys you both with one hand tied behind his back
Rock out... thanks! In no way am I saying that I\'m "better than anyone" or that I would be a good keyboardist for the Breakfast. There\'s no competition in music as far as I\'m concerned. And I\'m glad you think Jason could destroy me... but on the same note, I don\'t really care. I play music for the love of what I do. I know some people don\'t dig it... and that\'s OK with me (including some heads on this board...). I know I\'ve been playing classical piano for 24 years... I know that I practice over 3 hours a day... I know that I will always have something to learn about piano and music in general... and I know that I play from my heart.
So, seriously some of you... slam me if you want... tell me I suck... replace some of the letters in my forum name... that\'s just fine with me. I\'m secure enough to take it. I\'ll be over here practicing hard for the people that actually like what I do and I\'m sure the members of The Breakfast feel the same way I do. We play on stage for the love of what we do. If you don\'t dig it... move on, but don\'t try to bring down the one\'s who still love the band. Just the fact that you take time out of your day to bring up what you DON\'T like about a band means that you still care and that\'s why the Breakfast should keep going. (preach over...)
Now... say how "hippie" I am... and how gay I sound... and how I suck... I\'m ready for it. It\'s not unexpected. :disco: It\'s like a one trick pony for this forum.
holy shit!great post,dont take no shit.:disco:
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pretty long rant for someone who doesnt really care. just sayin.
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I would be there in a second. The chance to even perform on stage with Tim and [-]Ron[/-] Chris would be an experience to say the least. I would learn a lot.
wanna jam,i like your stuff.
dooooo it.
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I am so disappointed in this thread. Why oh why can people not just be nice. The anonymity of the internet has ruined human conversation. We no longer feel the need to be even remotely nice or polite.
Tim, Adrian, if you are reading all this, thanks for playing. I appreciate it and will continue to buy tickets and rock out with you all cause I dig what you do. No matter who you do it with.
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your welcome brah!
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I\'ll add to Krispy\'s comment..."Tim, Adrian and Chris, if you are reading all this, thanks for playing..."
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pretty long rant for someone who doesnt really care. just sayin.
I guess I\'ll never win over here at .info. :rip: I just try to be positive so the band can look optimistically at the situation. Of course that response was not unexpected.
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I guess I\'ll never win over here at .info. :rip: I just try to be positive so the band can look optimistically at the situation. Of course that response was not unexpected.
I am so disappointed in this thread. Why oh why can people not just be nice. The anonymity of the internet has ruined human conversation. We no longer feel the need to be even remotely nice or polite.
Tim, Adrian, if you are reading all this, thanks for playing. I appreciate it and will continue to buy tickets and rock out with you all cause I dig what you do. No matter who you do it with.
This is .info.
Not Dr. phil.
A few people here actually have different opinions and different directions they would like to see the band go in and actually say what they feel.
If it bugs you out that much dont read it.
There is plenty of other people who will kiss the bands ass no matter what they do if thats all you want to hear.
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I guess I\'ll never win over here at .info. :rip: I just try to be positive so the band can look optimistically at the situation. Of course that response was not unexpected.
I am so disappointed in this thread. Why oh why can people not just be nice. The anonymity of the internet has ruined human conversation. We no longer feel the need to be even remotely nice or polite.
Tim, Adrian, if you are reading all this, thanks for playing. I appreciate it and will continue to buy tickets and rock out with you all cause I dig what you do. No matter who you do it with.
This is .info.
Not Dr. phil.
A few people here actually have different opinions and different directions they would like to see the band go in and actually say what they feel.
If it bugs you out that much dont read it.
There is plenty of other people who will kiss the bands ass no matter what they do if thats all you want to hear.
you know, it is possible to offer constructive criticism and still be polite at the same time.
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I guess I\'ll never win over here at .info. :rip: I just try to be positive so the band can look optimistically at the situation. Of course that response was not unexpected.
I am so disappointed in this thread. Why oh why can people not just be nice. The anonymity of the internet has ruined human conversation. We no longer feel the need to be even remotely nice or polite.
Tim, Adrian, if you are reading all this, thanks for playing. I appreciate it and will continue to buy tickets and rock out with you all cause I dig what you do. No matter who you do it with.
This is .info.
Not Dr. phil.
A few people here actually have different opinions and different directions they would like to see the band go in and actually say what they feel.
If it bugs you out that much dont read it.
There is plenty of other people who will kiss the bands ass no matter what they do if thats all you want to hear.
You\'re totally correct. I\'m not here to tell anyone how to think. Everyone has their own opinions and they should be free to express them. But, I just really wanted to make sure that people were not thinking that I was saying that I\'m better than anyone or that I thought I would be a great addition to the Breakfast. When you wrote that Jason destroys me... that\'s fine. But, I had to explain that I wasn\'t saying that he didn\'t. Anyways... just PR damage control as usual for me. Running a business of music is not fun all the time. Carry on... no more ranting... I guess I care too much!!! Peace, ya\'ll. :)
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glad to see you bow down to jpress as you should ;) your okay with me dude. good luck.
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glad to see you bow down to jpress as you should ;) your okay with me dude. good luck.
Back in the day, I remember seeing Rezi a few times a month and the General Clinton Pub was a second home for me for a bit. Jason throws the shit down!!
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hahaha no way! did u go to o-state? I was there every show.
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hahaha no way! did u go to o-state? I was there every show.
I had a bunch of friends that went to Hartwick. I grew up and went to college in Syracuse. So, every weekend, it was either Syracuse, Ithaca, Utica or Oneonta for shows. I actually remember the reason why there was the sign "Please do not poop in the urinals" in the bathroom of the GCPube. :awwyeah:
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hahaha no way! did u go to o-state? I was there every show.
I had a bunch of friends that went to Hartwick. I grew up and went to college in Syracuse. So, every weekend, it was either Syracuse, Ithaca, Utica or Oneonta for shows. I actually remember the reason why there was the sign "Please do not poop in the urinals" in the bathroom of the GCPube. :awwyeah:
oh the pub... haven\'t played there in a WHILE.
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I saw u at the westcott bujak, I thought u were good at what you did. I dont know how you would fit in or hang with the breakfast but you got my vote over stoops but jason press destroys you both with one hand tied behind his back
wow:doh:
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there is a difference between kissing ass and being a decent human. you obviously don\'t get it. whatevs brah, karma\'s a bitch.
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stoops is a cheeseball hack that belongs in a corny jam band like raq.
bad karma. sub-human morals. scaaaaarrrieeeeeeee.
get real.
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rapidly loosing respect
/it\'s not hard to be decent.
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Dear Mr. Stoops,
I regret to inform you that your performance at the Higherground was not up to my standards. While you are a talented musician and have many dedicated fans, I feel your personal style does not mesh well with that of the breakfast. I thank you for your participation and willingness to sit in with the band during this transition period. Best of luck to you in your life and musical endeavors.
Sincerely,
Klout
ps> eat a D
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wow. that is a lot of energy dedicated to negativity. I feel bad for other beings near you.
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Dear Mr. Stoops,
I regret to inform you that your performance at the Higherground was not up to my standards. While you are a talented musician and have many dedicated fans, I feel your personal style does not mesh well with that of the breakfast. I thank you for your participation and willingness to sit in with the band during this transition period. Best of luck to you in your life and musical endeavors.
Sincerely,
Klout
ps> eat a D
So, do you play keys? Or, who do you think is worthy?
(U-melt kicks ass...)
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hahahaha krispy get a sense of humor you freak
u-melt sucks. halloween at the westcott was one of the worst musical performances I have ever witnessed. I was rahter buzzed and with a great group of about 20 friends, in great halloweeny spirits and I still found the music pathetic and seriously unworthy of stage that size. Their so called \'anthemic rock\' is more like talentless tasteless wanking. Bujak was more entertaining and held a better groove on his own than they could manage as a group
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hahahaha krispy get a sense of humor you freak
u-melt sucks. halloween at the westcott was one of the worst musical performances I have ever witnessed, I was wasted and with a great group of about 20 friends and I still found the music pathetic, their so called anthemic rock is more like talentless wanking. Bujak was more entertaining and held a better groove on his own than they could manage as a group
meh, I liked \'em when they were at Beardslee with TB a few years back. (Halloween)
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I\'m sure there is nothing I could say at this point that you would agree with. You would bash a breakfast show if I said I liked it. I just don\'t dig the negativity. There is too much of it in the world for me to actively seek it out. Whatever I really don\'t care that much. just trying to stay objective. Next time we are at a show together I owe you a beer. Hell I only have 300 posts and my first PB show was not until 96 so I can\'t be that cool anyway...
as for UMelt, I have not listened enough to have an oppinion. But every time I hear them on Jam on I say, wait is this the breakfast? I don\'t know this song...
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I had much better memories of them from that show too whitey which was part of the reason i went. maybe westcott was a VERY off night for them. I would give them one more chance. they did some weird thing from almost famous with projections that really tanked in the first set (even hardcore fans were not impressed) so the doozeyness of that probably carried over to the second set but still it was a really bad show.
krispy I honestly hear you. Negativity sucks. I try to stay 100% positive in my daily life but something about this board sometimes brings out the wicked hatah in me which is why I only log in once every few months and vent these days. And I would bash the shit out of a breakfast show if it was a dooze, wether you said it was good or not. thats just how I roll. I think brutal honesty is more helpful to the band than constantly blowing smoke up their asses for the sake of positivity and good karma. on the flip side I will also give them higher more articulate praise than almost anyone else when they earn it. its a two way street. and thanks for the beer I will hold you too that. all my good karma still outweighs my neg .hagfo hater vision :)
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hey jeff, never seen you live before, but definitely dig the tunes you have on myspace.
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Top 5 (semi-realistic) options in my mind after 12/31/08...
1. Jason press
2. Random dude (or chic) no one who has ever heard of but is the equivalent of d-man on keys
3. Trio till someone else comes along
4. Bujak
5. Stoops
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and thanks for the beer I will hold you too that. all my good karma still outweighs my neg .hagfo hater vision :)
sounds good. I take giving beers seriously!
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hey jeff, never seen you live before, but definitely dig the tunes you have on myspace.
Many thank yous.:biggrin: Check out http://www.livebuj.com for live stuff... but back to the Breakfast... keep playing damnit!!!! I can\'t wait for the Southbridge and Albany shows. I\'ll be there for sure.
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well, i just want to say that I did not mean any offense to anyone here, sorry jeff for my comment. i actually saw you play at mezzanote and was getting down. i guess i was just being a prick for the sake of it.
that said, letter to stoops is hilar
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well, i just want to say that I did not mean any offense to anyone here, sorry jeff for my comment. i actually saw you play at mezzanote and was getting down. i guess i was just being a prick for the sake of it.
that said, letter to stoops is hilar
Thank you, brother. That Mezz show was my second show ever. That\'s why I have fond memories of the Breakfast since they allowed me to play their tweener slot for only my second fucking show!! I still can\'t believe it. That\'s hands down good people. See you soon. Peace.
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damn your oldschool bujak tour kid face
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i think klout should be the face of .info
1. articulate
2. passionate
3. intelligent
4. knowledgable about the subject
5. just enough of a sarcastic ball breaking prick to keep me interested.
(why hasn\'t the jason press thing come up before?)
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I told you Bujak was good. :P
I think this would be a Ser combination Bujak busts out the samplers organs ticklin\' keys all the good shit. And he just said he\'s down to play with Breakfast...
you can all thank me a year from now :lol:
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damn your oldschool bujak tour kid face
:lol:ya d00d
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damn your oldschool bujak tour kid face
:lol:ya d00d
I\'m sure if I were hip to the .info lingo, I\'d understand... :newbie:
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Now... say how "hippie" I am... and how gay I sound... and how I suck... I\'m ready for it. It\'s not unexpected. :disco: It\'s like a one trick pony for this forum.
We need more hippie around here... gay deemsters can\'t even get any love on this forum anymore! (seriously whats the world coming to)
Jeff you gotta play some more hometown shows so I can lazily drag my ass off the couch and over to Pearl St or the Elevens or something. I\'ve actually only seen you with Somebodys Closet and .. pardon my lack of memory, but whatever band you were in at the Hilltown Fallfest in Cummington. I thought you were good after that but in the last few weeks I stumbled upon your solo prog-piano-electronica stuff and let me just say that is some good music to light one up to! Not only that but I\'m convinced your diversity and tastefulness ... well, perfect match IMO.
I can easily picture Metropolis taken to redic levels with Bujak on the keys. In fact I have this imaginary ish stuck in my head right now.
I want to go see at Mill Street but wed night is a tough pull for me... verdict\'s still out on that
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For everyone else... have you checked Jeffs website / myspace, etc etc, livebuj.com ?
Question Part 2::: Have you ever seen somebody so on the ball when it comes to promotion? I work in advertising and I must say I\'m impressed.
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Last question... are you in the band yet? ?? ???
peace
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(why hasn\'t the jason press thing come up before?)
thats what i was thinking. maybe he has been playing in other bands since rezi broke up, but if he was an option wouldnt greg ellis have hooked it up some time after jordan left the breakfast??
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damn your oldschool bujak tour kid face
:lol:ya d00d
I\'m sure if I were hip to the .info lingo, I\'d understand... :newbie:
i like to think i am but that still makes NO SENSE
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i believe he is telling me (Face) that i am an oldschool bujak tour kid (as in, a kid who was on an oldschool bujak tour)
it took a me a few looks to decipher that one as well
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hey jeff, never seen you live before, but definitely dig the tunes you have on myspace.
Many thank yous.:biggrin: Check out http://www.livebuj.com for live stuff... but back to the Breakfast... keep playing damnit!!!! I can\'t wait for the Southbridge and Albany shows. I\'ll be there for sure.
See you in Albany! (I also happened to see on your tour list that you\'re playing in Amsterdam, NY. That\'s my hometown, and certainly not an expected musical destination!)
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Now... say how "hippie" I am... and how gay I sound... and how I suck... I\'m ready for it. It\'s not unexpected. :disco: It\'s like a one trick pony for this forum.
We need more hippie around here... gay deemsters can\'t even get any love on this forum anymore! (seriously whats the world coming to)
Jeff you gotta play some more hometown shows so I can lazily drag my ass off the couch and over to Pearl St or the Elevens or something. I\'ve actually only seen you with Somebodys Closet and .. pardon my lack of memory, but whatever band you were in at the Hilltown Fallfest in Cummington. I thought you were good after that but in the last few weeks I stumbled upon your solo prog-piano-electronica stuff and let me just say that is some good music to light one up to!
I can easily picture Metropolis taken to redic levels with Bujak on the keys. In fact I have this imaginary ish stuck in my head right now.
I want to go see at Mill Street but wed night is a tough pull for me... verdict\'s still out on that
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For everyone else... have you checked Jeffs website / myspace, etc etc, livebuj.com ?
Question Part 2::: Have you ever seen somebody so on the ball when it comes to promotion? I work in advertising and I must say I\'m impressed.
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Last question... are you in the band yet? ?? ???
peace
Don\'t get me wrong, I love this town (city) and I love the vibe here, but electronic music and jam rock music isn\'t given the time of day in Northampton. It\'s all about folk rock, karaoke, indie rock and DJ\'s. I do play in town once and while. You\'ll be the first to know when I book something.
I take what I do seriously. Promo, booking, managing... I do it all. But it\'s the bands that I watch and follow that teach me what to do. The Breakfast, for instance, has a stand down hell of a community of supporters. Lotus, U-Melt and Ryan Montbleau Band... same thing. Like them or not, you have to hand it to their fans and community... they get shit done when it has to get done. I watch their managemen and I mimic every step taken to boost promo and get the word out. So, even though I do work hard at what I do, I have to give these bands, their management and their community almost full credit.
That was Shokazoba Afrobeat Battalion at Cummington Fairgrounds. I don\'t play with many any other bands right now. Somebody\'s Closet once and a while for higher paying events, but I\'m flying solo for a bit. Thanks for your support. If you\'re going to a show in town, let me know... I got to a lot of shows in town when I\'m here.
i believe he is telling me (Face) that i am an oldschool bujak tour kid (as in, a kid who was on an oldschool bujak tour)
it took a me a few looks to decipher that one as well
Well done! :yay: I need a decoder ring.
hey jeff, never seen you live before, but definitely dig the tunes you have on myspace.
Many thank yous.:biggrin: Check out http://www.livebuj.com for live stuff... but back to the Breakfast... keep playing damnit!!!! I can\'t wait for the Southbridge and Albany shows. I\'ll be there for sure.
See you in Albany! (I also happened to see on your tour list that you\'re playing in Amsterdam, NY. That\'s my hometown, and certainly not an expected musical destination!)
I love playing Amsterdam. It\'s a venue in someone\'s big basement. One of my favorite places to play. It\'s a good locale for Utica and Albany heads. I went to the mall in Amsterdam once... it was empty. Seriously... empty. No stores. An Army recruiting center and a post office. I was like... "no shit... they get you when you just want to mail a letter."
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hey jeff, never seen you live before, but definitely dig the tunes you have on myspace.
Many thank yous.:biggrin: Check out http://www.livebuj.com for live stuff... but back to the Breakfast... keep playing damnit!!!! I can\'t wait for the Southbridge and Albany shows. I\'ll be there for sure.
See you in Albany! (I also happened to see on your tour list that you\'re playing in Amsterdam, NY. That\'s my hometown, and certainly not an expected musical destination!)
I love playing Amsterdam. It\'s a venue in someone\'s big basement. One of my favorite places to play. It\'s a good locale for Utica and Albany heads. I went to the mall in Amsterdam once... it was empty. Seriously... empty. No stores. An Army recruiting center and a post office. I was like... "no shit... they get you when you just want to mail a letter."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we began calling it \'The Amsterdam Downtown Store\'...