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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on May 01, 2006, 02:47:26 pm

Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 02:47:26 pm
I mentioned to Dobs how cool it would be for the guys to have a podcast series.
Not only would it help in exposing their music to a wide range of people it would be sick to have sbd quality tracks of ripping versions of tunes from a tour.
He can also lay out a "setlist" in the podcast to blow us away!
He said he was thinking of doing something like this but has no idea really how to go about it.
Podcasts can be "subscribed" to and when new ones come out they just automatically show up in whatever feed you have set up.

So if anyone has knowledge of how to create a podcast pls contact Dobs when they get back.
 Please?
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2006, 02:58:34 pm
They aren\'t very difficult to do and I would be more than happy to help.

But Soundboards at this level are not going to be the "cream" you keep thinking they will.

Unless the band is traveleing with their own board and can use it at the venues they are playing the soundboards are gonna be tough to come by with good quality.

Mixing for FOH and mixing for multitrack soundboard recordings are completely different and they don\'t always get along.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 03:25:09 pm
Cool. Check your PM box.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: kindm's on May 01, 2006, 05:36:03 pm
Leith and others

How do you normally get the podcasts ? do u go directly to their site and use the MP3 download method or do you subscribe using a desktop or web based \'podcatcher\' ?

I did some quick reading up on it and its pretty easy to do. Just curious which method most folks are using.

RE: the audio

It is just a long MP3 on tlg\'s site anyway. the RSS feed is just a way to announce that its available. It can be pushed out to \'podcatcher\' software as well as by direct download via link. So there would be some processing / upolading of audio that would need to be done which would require having internet access on the road (if of course you are talking about doing it from the road). If we are talking about just doing a podcast whenever then the issue is moot.

basically an on demand radio show.

I can try and have a few \'Test\' files available ASAP and we can test this sh@t out if you guys are game. Or I could just do a radio show from my server at home but i\'m not sure the interest is there considering what happeend with gdlive.com etc

let me know what you guys think.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: ChrisF on May 01, 2006, 06:17:22 pm
i dont know what a podcast is but you guys might want to load this into your ipods.

http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=543506
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=24794

The Breakfast - Surreal Sampler

This is a collection of new Breakfast material recorded live on the
Vernal Equinox Tour 2006. 256 kbps MP3; 80 minutes, 21 seconds.

01. "Surreal Radio" - 3/30/06 - The Loft; Tempe, AZ
02. "Intention" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
03. "Episode 3 (Awakening)" - 4/15/06 - Century Lounge; Providence, RI
04. "Psygn" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
05. "Good Things" - 3/23/06 - Crystal Bay Club Casino; Crystal Bay, NV
06. "Honey Butter" - 3/26/06 - SOHO; Santa Barbara, CA
07. "The Late And The Great" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ
08. "Over Exposure" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: Spacey on May 01, 2006, 06:29:35 pm
nice Chris.

You just released the new album with all live material.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 08:20:51 pm
Quote from: ChrisF
i dont know what a podcast is but you guys might want to load this into your ipods.

http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=543506
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=24794

The Breakfast - Surreal Sampler

This is a collection of new Breakfast material recorded live on the
Vernal Equinox Tour 2006. 256 kbps MP3; 80 minutes, 21 seconds.

01. "Surreal Radio" - 3/30/06 - The Loft; Tempe, AZ
02. "Intention" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
03. "Episode 3 (Awakening)" - 4/15/06 - Century Lounge; Providence, RI
04. "Psygn" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
05. "Good Things" - 3/23/06 - Crystal Bay Club Casino; Crystal Bay, NV
06. "Honey Butter" - 3/26/06 - SOHO; Santa Barbara, CA
07. "The Late And The Great" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ
08. "Over Exposure" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ

Yeah happy happy joy joy

This is  almost EXACTLY what a podcast is. This file is tracked while mp3 podcasts are just a long ass Mp3 most of the times w/ killer sbd quality  sound. I am sure this will sound great. sbd or not.

They are great because it\'s a quick download and ez to load.

Thank you so much Chris.  I will spread the link.

Kindms I use Castpodder for linux and subscribe to about 5 feeds.

The download is taking awhile.
 podcasts i guess need to be hosted and that is why they are so quick. P2P is a good way to start but if we can get them on here or kindms\' site. It would be alot better. just throwing out ideas here.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: ChrisF on May 01, 2006, 08:42:10 pm
Quote from: leith
This is EXACTLY what a podcast is. A long ass Mp3 most of the times w/ killer sbd quality  sound. I am sure this will sound great. sbd or not.

oh ok, i thought a pod cast had something to do with ipods or itunes.

this sounds really good. i mastered all the tracks so the recordings sound as much alike as possible. i have been handing out a lot of these samplers and people seem to like these a lot. the best part is that its all new tunes.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 01, 2006, 08:58:41 pm
no due to ipods being sooo popular the word podcast comes from the ipod but it is just an mp3 (ipod being #1 mp3/pod player).
Thanx for putting this together mastering and such. New tunes are huge!
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: Todd on May 02, 2006, 02:53:52 am
Quote from: ChrisF
i dont know what a podcast is but you guys might want to load this into your ipods.

http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=543506
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=24794

The Breakfast - Surreal Sampler

This is a collection of new Breakfast material recorded live on the
Vernal Equinox Tour 2006. 256 kbps MP3; 80 minutes, 21 seconds.

01. "Surreal Radio" - 3/30/06 - The Loft; Tempe, AZ
02. "Intention" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
03. "Episode 3 (Awakening)" - 4/15/06 - Century Lounge; Providence, RI
04. "Psygn" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
05. "Good Things" - 3/23/06 - Crystal Bay Club Casino; Crystal Bay, NV
06. "Honey Butter" - 3/26/06 - SOHO; Santa Barbara, CA
07. "The Late And The Great" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ
08. "Over Exposure" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ


Awesome idea Chris!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I just forwarded these links to 35+ people, 9 of them being "industry" folk I know!!! I also wrote to send me there addy if they can\'t/ don\'t know how to download and I\'ll mail them cds. I\'m also going to burn a shit load of cds to pass out along my journeys.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: crimsonknuckles on May 02, 2006, 09:06:33 am
podcasts are for people ,like kim komando and rush "limbaugh" ,who want people to listen to their radio shows uncut and on your own time. this is a great mix to pass out to people!! thanks chris.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 02, 2006, 12:36:13 pm
Quote from: crimsonknuckles
podcasts are for people ,like kim komando and rush "limbaugh" ,who want people to listen to their radio shows uncut and on your own time. this is a great mix to pass out to people!! thanks chris.


Such a limited view of how to use podcasts. UM ,TLG and many other bands use podcasts to easily get their music into people\'s mp3 players.

Quote from: Todd
Quote from: ChrisF
i dont know what a podcast is but you guys might want to load this into your ipods.

http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=543506
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=24794

The Breakfast - Surreal Sampler

This is a collection of new Breakfast material recorded live on the
Vernal Equinox Tour 2006. 256 kbps MP3; 80 minutes, 21 seconds.

01. "Surreal Radio" - 3/30/06 - The Loft; Tempe, AZ
02. "Intention" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
03. "Episode 3 (Awakening)" - 4/15/06 - Century Lounge; Providence, RI
04. "Psygn" - 3/24/06 - Connecticut Yankee; San Francisco, CA
05. "Good Things" - 3/23/06 - Crystal Bay Club Casino; Crystal Bay, NV
06. "Honey Butter" - 3/26/06 - SOHO; Santa Barbara, CA
07. "The Late And The Great" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ
08. "Over Exposure" - 3/31/06 - Mogollon Brewing Company; Flagstaff, AZ


Awesome idea Chris!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I just forwarded these links to 35+ people, 9 of them being "industry" folk I know!!! I also wrote to send me there addy if they can\'t/ don\'t know how to download and I\'ll mail them cds. I\'m also going to burn a shit load of cds to pass out along my journeys.



Cool Todd.
Thing is the way technology is moving and the way most podcasts are distributed sending a link to a P2P site may not be the best thing for the band.
Most of the bands that offer podcasts have them hosted and it is just an mp3 that can be downloaded direct from a site or subscribed to.

Most "industry" folk know all about podcasts and how they are distributed.

The fact that this is not an mp3 podcast (though listed as one mp3 it is tracked and flac) and not available other than from a P2P site(which have been under fire by the "industry") may give the impression that The Breakfast is not up to par w/ the other bands out on the scene that do offer real podcasts.

It is cool that you got it out though and
It was good to offer the discs as an alternative.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: davepeck on May 02, 2006, 12:41:55 pm
Quote from: leith
The fact that this is not an mp3 podcast (though listed as one mp3 it is tracked and flac)

oink > mp3
etree > flac
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: crimsonknuckles on May 02, 2006, 01:22:39 pm
Quote from: leith
Quote from: crimsonknuckles
podcasts are for people ,like kim komando and rush "limbaugh" ,who want people to listen to their radio shows uncut and on your own time. this is a great mix to pass out to people!! thanks chris.


Such a limited view of how to use podcasts. UM ,TLG and many other bands use podcasts to easily get their music into people\'s mp3 players.



why can\'t you just transfer a live show to your ipod, why does it have to be continuous? i don\'t care personally because i dont own one but i have transfered cd\'s to my brothers. full shows and all. i hate TLG now, so fuck you my man......
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 02, 2006, 01:33:46 pm
Quote from: davepeck
Quote from: leith
The fact that this is not an mp3 podcast (though listed as one mp3 it is tracked and flac)


oink > mp3
etree > flac

Fuck why does that have to be? Can someone YSI the mp3 file? That would be ser.

Quote from: crimsonknuckles
Quote from: leith
Quote from: crimsonknuckles
podcasts are for people ,like kim komando and rush "limbaugh" ,who want people to listen to their radio shows uncut and on your own time. this is a great mix to pass out to people!! thanks chris.


Such a limited view of how to use podcasts. UM ,TLG and many other bands use podcasts to easily get their music into people\'s mp3 players.



why can\'t you just transfer a live show to your ipod, why does it have to be continuous? i don\'t care personally because i dont own one but i have transfered cd\'s to my brothers. full shows and all. i hate TLG now, so fuck you my man......


Because a podcast is usually a "best of" from a tour and showcases the band better sometimes than a live show .

If you don\'t personally care why are you posting?

Oh and since you want to get personal I could give a fuck less what bands you like as you seem to be a close minded ass anyway.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: crimsonknuckles on May 02, 2006, 01:52:32 pm
i just get on defensive people, i am far from close minded, if i like something i like it, if i dont like something i can give a shit. as of now i know shit about podcasts or even that bands use them. i only new it in the form of radio shows which none said so i stated it. your right i do have a limited view of the many uses of podcasts. i dont get it. i saw the "UM" thinking it meant "ummm...hello retard" not  the band so it threw me off, sorry for the shit. ?????????????
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: leith on May 02, 2006, 02:17:58 pm
Quote from: crimsonknuckles
i just get on defensive people, i am far from close minded, if i like something i like it, if i dont like something i can give a shit. as of now i know shit about podcasts or even that bands use them. i only new it in the form of radio shows which none said so i stated it. your right i do have a limited view of the many uses of podcasts. i dont get it. i saw the "UM" thinking it meant "ummm...hello retard" not  the band so it threw me off, sorry for the shit. ?????????????


Cool. I was hesitant to use any band names because of exactly what happened.
 
Podcasts are actually pretty neat and just another way to get the music out. I know a few people myself included that have come across some cool new music due to having a "podcatcher\'.

It is about time The Breakfast started taking advantage of the same resources other bands are using such as this. Esp. when it seems to be a pretty cost effective way to promote the band.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: kindm's on May 02, 2006, 03:17:35 pm
In the very limited amount of time i spoent looking at this stuff yesterday it occurs to me that the best use of the rss feeds for this band would be announcing show dates.

dave already has an rss feed for the setlists. I think it would be good if there was an rss feed for when shows are announced / added to calendar etc. not sure how that might get integrated with in .info but it should really come from .net IMHO. but either way is a start.

As for the audio / podcast it still gonna take having material. so it really comes down to whats done with it. It would be a great way to use blown taping opportunities. What i mean is a recording that might be really good but not a full show or only has 1 or 2 tracks that are usable etc. Also as Leith has mentioned, if the band has sound boards that they dont want released in full or are only semi-usable it is a great way to \'leak\' some tracks out.

I\'ll try and fudge something together tonight or tomorrow to get the delivery end worked out. But it all comes down to usable material.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: Rujah on May 02, 2006, 05:01:35 pm
so who wants to send me a copy of this via aim, email, or regualr snail mail?
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: kindm's on May 04, 2006, 11:14:31 am
Ok. just wanted to give an update.

last night I was able to create the .rss file and an xml file for a podcast. I tested on my personal webspce.

The 1 thing I failed to consider was coding the viewable page. So this weekend i\'ll be trying to refresh my memory regarding php. Its been a while since I played with it last.

But its pretty staright forward. So I should have something live in the next few days that we can test.
Title: Will someone please help Dobs create a Breakfast podcast ?
Post by: derickw on May 04, 2006, 11:50:00 am
great work man, thanks i can\'t wait