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how big of place to you think the breakfast can play? do you think its loyal fanbase will be able to fill a place lets say the size of hammerstein on new yrs?
how big of place to you think the breakfast can play? do you think its loyal fanbase will be able to fill a place lets say the size of hammerstein on new yrs?
The UAC hall in Southport, CT <<<--------- best spot for a nye show. confirmed.
yet you call me selfish. you know thats what you want.
Doesn\'t UAC have a 1 am curfew...hmm? Let\'s see 1 am in CT and 5 am in NYC...I don\'t know let me think about that one?
The thing about playing anywhere other than NYC on New Years is that everyone is in the city on New Years. Are people forgetting
1: The crappy showing when they headlined Toads for \'03-\'04
2: What was prob. the best New Years show they\'ve played @ Tobacco Rd.
Yes the road is no longer but the city is sooooo packed on New Years you are definatley going to have a full room all night and depending on the venue into the morning. Now these guys want to expose their music to new people New York on the new year is the perfect place to do that
i didn\'t think 03-04 was a poor showing. i thought it was decently packed, maybe 3/4 full or so... althought, i guess it did thin out towards the end.
(factoid~ did you know there was a bush daughter at that show? it was the dark-haired one. i wouldn\'t have known for sure, but she pissed me off and her secret service guy had to suggest i just grin and bear it! bitch shoulda not stood in my groovin\' area...)
ahem, there are other towns in new york that have late curfews that arent a nightmare to get to by car on new years eve. poughkeepsie anyone?
Maybe a place like the full moon resort in upstate NY.
Get another band with a decent fanbase and book the weekend. They have cabins and rooms there. It is run by some really nice older heads. They did an AOD show there for NYE once and they had the RAQ-out there this summer.
could be cool or a place like it where we can stay on site and have the show.
IMO, the breakfast either need to headline NYE or co-bill it with someone where they will be able to spread their name farther. No opening for any bands or 1 set bullshit. Step it up and make it happen and others will take notice.
In response to Leith.
If the band cannot say with assurance that they can sell rooms / tickets than they aint gonna get any venue.
NYE is not the night to grow your fanbase. People who make plans for this night generally make plans for a known good time so trying to convince someone to see them for the first time gonna be tough on NYE.
Also if growing the fanbase is the idea then having a show in CT is not the answer either.
If they want to do something they should put a package together or give people incentive other than the show. Like a place to stay onsite or like when DBB played NYE in bridgeport they have transportation arranged to and from the hotel. that kind of stuff. or a killer venue like beardslee or some sort of spectacle. maybe it is already too late but who knows.
Quote from: kindm\'sIn response to Leith.
If the band cannot say with assurance that they can sell rooms / tickets than they aint gonna get any venue.
NYE is not the night to grow your fanbase. People who make plans for this night generally make plans for a known good time so trying to convince someone to see them for the first time gonna be tough on NYE.
Also if growing the fanbase is the idea then having a show in CT is not the answer either.
If they want to do something they should put a package together or give people incentive other than the show. Like a place to stay onsite or like when DBB played NYE in bridgeport they have transportation arranged to and from the hotel. that kind of stuff. or a killer venue like beardslee or some sort of spectacle. maybe it is already too late but who knows.
By your reasoning this band should not be playing out. For that matter no band @ this level should be able to get in any venue.
But my point is this band can not afford to do such an elaborate NYE party such as you envision. The whole point of NYE shows is to provide the fans w/ a show by their favorite band to ring in the New Year. The only incentive should be that The Breakfast is Playing. I know I tried my damndest every year to make GD NYE just for the fact that it was the Dead. I only point out fanbase growth as younger kids looking for something to do would only become fans if they were afforded an opportunity to see The Breakfast on NYE. Playing a solo NYE show in a comfortable local venue can provide them the time to stretch out and provide a truely legendary performance.
Quote from: leithQuote from: kindm\'sIn response to Leith.
If the band cannot say with assurance that they can sell rooms / tickets than they aint gonna get any venue.
NYE is not the night to grow your fanbase. People who make plans for this night generally make plans for a known good time so trying to convince someone to see them for the first time gonna be tough on NYE.
Also if growing the fanbase is the idea then having a show in CT is not the answer either.
If they want to do something they should put a package together or give people incentive other than the show. Like a place to stay onsite or like when DBB played NYE in bridgeport they have transportation arranged to and from the hotel. that kind of stuff. or a killer venue like beardslee or some sort of spectacle. maybe it is already too late but who knows.
By your reasoning this band should not be playing out. For that matter no band @ this level should be able to get in any venue.
But my point is this band can not afford to do such an elaborate NYE party such as you envision. The whole point of NYE shows is to provide the fans w/ a show by their favorite band to ring in the New Year. The only incentive should be that The Breakfast is Playing. I know I tried my damndest every year to make GD NYE just for the fact that it was the Dead. I only point out fanbase growth as younger kids looking for something to do would only become fans if they were afforded an opportunity to see The Breakfast on NYE. Playing a solo NYE show in a comfortable local venue can provide them the time to stretch out and provide a truely legendary performance.
Thats not what I was saying at all. Eleborate ? how is playing a good venue which offers some added value elaborate ? I have been to a lot of the NYE shows. I did toads (pretty good turn out and the fans had package at near by hotel) and Tobacco road (was packed because it was after a big show in NYC) with the breakfast. I didnt go when the co-billed with creek becasue creek bores me. So considering a lot of the non-hardcore fans are gonna be looking where to spend $ a lot of these other factors weigh in IMO.
They should rent out the Annex Club in East Haven. $40 a head with free buffet and kegs. They\'ll make bank and we can go nuts. It would be a ser party.
Playing a solo NYE show in a comfortable local venue can provide them the time to stretch out and provide a truely legendary performance.
NYE 2005/2006 should be 3 sets in NEW motherfucking HAVEN! nuff said.confirmed
They should rent out the Annex Club in East Haven. $40 a head with free buffet and kegs. They\'ll make bank and we can go nuts. It would be a ser party.
I guess it all comes back to the same thing always.
Fanbase / attendance
If the fanbase stays the same size as it is now roughly then we will be having these debates for a long time.
What about a New Years RUN...this will also increase size of crowd as people might actually hit the road with the band...3-5 nights in a row culminating in a Toad\'s NYE extravaganza(and Toad\'s gave them til 3 last time they played there for NYE \'03)
12/28 Mexicali Blues Teaneck NJ
12/29 Knitting Factory NYC
12/30 Iron Horse NoHo, MA
12/31 Toad\'s Place
If the band cannot bring more than 15 people out on a Wed an hour away from their home turf on a New Year\'s run when kids are on break from college than they will never be any bigger than they are right now. Sorry, that is just fact. Christ, Timmy Tour gets more than that going just to see him on a Wed every week...even when kids are in school.
2-Run or not people are saving their money for the actual new year
Quote from: Me!2-Run or not people are saving their money for the actual new year
..and broke from the holidays to boot..
And my point about TT is just that if he can bring the hardcores out solo playing covers then the badn would get more than that.
I mean if they need the college crowds than what better time to have a nice multi night run than when they are on break from school?
but hey, turkey tour was a success last year, so who knows..
tOAD\'S IS much LARGER THAN 500 PEOPLE...ISN\'T tlg AFRAID THAT NO ONE WILL GO ON nye BC OF THE SHOW THE NIGHT BEFORE;)
Throblem..which most non CTers don\'t realize...is that New Haven is reallt a very small towm in comparison to Boston or Frisco. New Haven is like 125k folks....tiny by comparison.
When the band plays Toads more than two...maybe three time a year the draw falls because folks have seen it.....and there aren\'t that many other muso\'s that want to.
The last I knew, a private function was the bands absolute last resort. Mostly because of the money thing. I believe NYC is in the running do to the massive amount of people in the area on that day followed by Bostonia and Providence. Hopefully a date will be confirmed soon so everyone who has the intention of attending will be able to make proper accomendations.
If the place gets::GASP:: some people in it then surprisingly it sounds good...of course with the 200 person turnouts that the one-nighters pull in it doesn\'t sound good. Maybe a 2 night stand for NYE will bring in some::GASP:: CROWDS???
if the breakfast only draw 200 for one night... how do we expect them to draw more for two nights....?
Film at 11:00.
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Before you make that "I-hate-the-Webster" post, think back to last year\'s NYE show and be happy.
I\'m all about it, i don\'t care where they play it\'s not our call anyways and Hartford is easy for everybody coming and leaving.
Cool!
Fonghoulish Freakout and NYE both at the Webster. Too bad I moved out of Hartford in September.
Before you make that "I-hate-the-Webster" post, think back to last year\'s NYE show and be happy.
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yeah balloons....
just got transferred to a shift working NYE.......oh well :(
i\'m pushing for UF to open, we\'ll see what happens with that.
I can\'t wait. is there a decorating crew for any of these shows..... yeah balloons.... yeah glow stick war.... anybody..... I\'m willing to help out if there is.
Quote from: derickwI can\'t wait. is there a decorating crew for any of these shows..... yeah balloons.... yeah glow stick war.... anybody..... I\'m willing to help out if there is.
So who\'s got the $$$$ to throw down on cases of glow sticks??
If I am blowing anything for that long and much, I better be getting laid.
yo spacey, you think beardslee have more ppl?
is umelt playing first? what time our the breakfast on?
I believe all bands go on at the same time.
Quote from: SpaceyI believe all bands go on at the same time.
that would be quite hard to listen to!
Quote from: Me!Quote from: derickwI can\'t wait. is there a decorating crew for any of these shows..... yeah balloons.... yeah glow stick war.... anybody..... I\'m willing to help out if there is.
So who\'s got the $$$$ to throw down on cases of glow sticks??
Thinking the same thing. Been saying to myself all week, "How much does a 1000 glow rings/sticks cost?". I\'d be willing to throw in for some glow sticks/rings.
Balloons were cool but it seemed like a lot of work. If I am blowing anything for that long and much, I better be getting paid.
Quote from: Me!Quote from: derickwI can\'t wait. is there a decorating crew for any of these shows..... yeah balloons.... yeah glow stick war.... anybody..... I\'m willing to help out if there is.
So who\'s got the $$$$ to throw down on cases of glow sticks??
Thinking the same thing. Been saying to myself all week, "How much does a 1000 glow rings/sticks cost?". I\'d be willing to throw in for some glow sticks/rings.
Balloons were cool but it seemed like a lot of work. If I am blowing anything for that long and much, I better be getting paid.
just checking.
would a 2-3 day run make more people interested in going?
or is the venue the only real obstacle?
hurry hurry get your tickets quick this will sell out super fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So has anyone been in The Webster w/ a capacity crowd? Does it make a difference?
Capacity crowd at the Webster makes a HUGE difference.
Quote from: WALSHCapacity crowd at the Webster makes a HUGE difference.
If this is true. I personally do not want to hear any more bitching about the sound in this place. You all can do something about this. GET PEOPLE TO THE SHOW. BUY TICKETS. Hell as a Christmas gift to the band everyone going buy 2 tickets and if ya have to, give one away. The point is if the place sounds good w/ a capacity or near capacity crowd. Get it done!!!!!!! Come On. YOU CAN DO IT!
Quote from: WALSHCapacity crowd at the Webster makes a HUGE difference.
If this is true. I personally do not want to hear any more bitching about the sound in this place. You all can do something about this. GET PEOPLE TO THE SHOW. BUY TICKETS. Hell as a Christmas gift to the band everyone going buy 2 tickets and if ya have to, give one away. The point is if the place sounds good w/ a capacity or near capacity crowd. Get it done!!!!!!! Come On. YOU CAN DO IT!
Derick, all about a hotel in hartford, count me in.
Quote from: leithQuote from: WALSHCapacity crowd at the Webster makes a HUGE difference.
If this is true. I personally do not want to hear any more bitching about the sound in this place. You all can do something about this. GET PEOPLE TO THE SHOW. BUY TICKETS. Hell as a Christmas gift to the band everyone going buy 2 tickets and if ya have to, give one away. The point is if the place sounds good w/ a capacity or near capacity crowd. Get it done!!!!!!! Come On. YOU CAN DO IT!
The reality is some people can not spend an $20 bucks. That people don\'t want to go to the Webster because it is the Webster.
The earlier people knoe about NYE the better plans can be made for NYE.
Quote from: SpaceyQuote from: leithQuote from: WALSHCapacity crowd at the Webster makes a HUGE difference.
If this is true. I personally do not want to hear any more bitching about the sound in this place. You all can do something about this. GET PEOPLE TO THE SHOW. BUY TICKETS. Hell as a Christmas gift to the band everyone going buy 2 tickets and if ya have to, give one away. The point is if the place sounds good w/ a capacity or near capacity crowd. Get it done!!!!!!! Come On. YOU CAN DO IT!
The reality is some people can not spend an $20 bucks. That people don\'t want to go to the Webster because it is the Webster.
The earlier people knoe about NYE the better plans can be made for NYE.
Ok 1st it\'s Nov.3rd if people cannot find $20 by this show they got bigger problems then I wanta hear abt.
2nd People that don\'t want to go to the Webster JUST because it\'s the Webster are fools anyway and do not deserve The Breakfast.
Yep start letting people know now where they need to be on NYE back east.
We should all wear shirts that say "I love the Webster Theatre!!" or "Best CT Venue= The Webster Theatre" or "Best Sound in NEw England... The Webster Theatre!!"
I wouldnt be able to be anywhere else on that night knowing that the breakfast is playing a 3 set show in CT without being miserable......
Latenight in the Woods of Willington?????????????? ;)