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Breakfast Babble => Food For Thought => 2004 => Topic started by: davepeck on June 12, 2004, 03:08:51 am
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I: Wake Up In A Coma > Fairy, Great Big Fiery Ball In The Sky > Summertime Blues, No Regret, LDZ > Hard Luck Harry > Son Of Simpleton, Beef Barley, Food For Thought > White Wedding > Food For Thought > Dig
II: Question Mark And The Mind, Vera Street, Doughboy, Superfly Phaddy Fat > The Eleven > What The Funk, Sleeping Beauty, Drunk Monk Bar, Dimension 5, Wild Pack Of Asscracks, Sweet Leaf
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definitely need a verification. may be short, or completely wrong.. i dunno.. can a brother get a verification? :) \'night.
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#timmy soundchecks on brand new Taylor acoustic (soundcheck contained an instrumental Waste)
1: Wake Up In a Coma>Fairy, GBFBITS>Great Big Jam>Summertime Blues, No Regret, LDZ>Hard Luck Harry>HLH Jam>Son of Simpleton, Beef Barley>Beef Barley Jam>Food For Thought>White Wedding>Food For Thought, Dig
2: Question Mark and the Mind, Vera Street, Doughboy*, Supafly Phaddy Phat, The Eleven (Thats it for the other one), What the Funk, Sleeping Beauty>Jam>Drunk Monk Bar, Dimention 5, Wild Pack of Asscracks
E: Sweet Leaf
Tonight proves many things. For one, Porters is the best venue in the state. The staff is friendly, and always there when you need em. The scene is so fucking chill.
The vortex hole in the floor/ceiling was one of my favorite things about the 3-12-04 show, but it had to go and it did. Nice job.
As for the Breakfast, So So Ser. Coma>Fairy was INTENSE. Everyone was still getting setlled in, but what a way to kick off the night.
I would love l "last time played" for Summertime Blues, Great Call
All the jams from tunes tonight were tight and they flowed perfectly with the evening. nothing seemed forced.
The Eleven or whatever the name of the dead tune (Thats it for the other one) was SICK. I remember the only 10-31 show not labled "the freakout" at acoustic cafe. They busted this out on a request, and Kroop had to get up to sing it....tonight they had it. what a SER suprise....
More to come, looking forward to reading comments and stories about tonight for a few weeks to come.....
thanks to the breakfast, porters, and all that were there tonight.....
great evening.....
Gencs
"trying desprately to hold on to my soul"
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2 sets of pb at a place like Porters is all anyone can ask for. great time.. the No regret to LDZ to Hardluck was a ser highlight and the sweet leaf was rippin and the show was damn fun
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Originally posted by davepeck
definitely need a verification. may be short, or completely wrong.. i dunno.. can a brother get a verification? :) \'night.
Way past your prime Pecoraro. ;)
The Eleven is Grateful Dead, first time played.
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
I would love l "last time played" for Summertime Blues, Great Call
12/28/02 – Arch Street Tavern; Hartford, CT
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The Dead song they covered was not The Eleven. It was The Other One (or officially Cryptical Envelopement). Please make the correct adjustment to the archive databases.
Another stellar show at Porters!!!
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ohh LDZ>HLH>SOS how was THAT!?
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oops nevermind Jon already answered that...
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Another ser Porter\'s show. WUIAC is an alltime great opener, then a rockin\' Fairy. They\'ve definitely taken out some of the soul and emotion in Fairy and traded it in for some edge since the early versions. It really works well both ways, but considering how many more songs they have with rock edge, I feel that their real emotion tunes (Fairy, Mooboo\'s, Vera Street, Question Mark etc.) should be kept guarded. Looking at the setlist, they played 3 out of 4 of those last night...nice! LDZ > HLH > SOS was crazy, Harry was a great jam that resembled the beginning of a roller-coaster ride; very gradual and exciting buildup, then a huge swoop down all at once. They landed back in a mini-jam with the Harry changes and Tim playing the melody, and Freddie made the excellent point that this could be considered a "Harry Reprise".
(To digress into setlist geekdom for a moment, I think that Freddie is right, and that if there is a Hardluck Harry Reprise, this is what it is. My only question is, can a song segue into its own reprise, or is that just an extension of the same song?)
Anyways, this was definitely the best jam of the first set, Beef Barley was good but last week\'s was off the charts. FFT was congratulating Ron on getting married, huge grin on his face the whole time. 2nd set...oh my goodness. Superfly Phaddy Fat > The Other One...are you kidding me? I mean, who does that? This is the type of segue you fantasize about that only The Breakfast pulls off. Unbelievable, and the best part was these 2 minutes where they\'re playing the unmistakable Other One rhythm, and I\'m hanging by a thread waiting to see if Jordan is gonna say "Spanish lady comes to me, she lays on me this rose..." or if it\'s just a really tantalizing tease. Then he finally busts out with it and I\'m jumping through the roof. Those were the best two minutes of the show. The rest of the show rocked hard with DMB, WPOAC, and Sweet Leaf. I really like Porter\'s, the out-of-the-wayness actually gives it a lot of character and it\'s the best venue for beer since CBC. Love the new dance floor. Super time and great to see everyone! See you next weekend!
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once again,as wlways,great jam outta great big..its almost becoming an everytime thing now..no copmplaints at all.good seeing everyone came out last night,even tansley was in the house.highlight of the show was sweet leaf.ser old school..throw summertime blues on the same shelf as bugs man!!
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Damn seems like a major show in all catagories. As for the name of the song medusanyc Cryptical Envelopment is only a part of the song. It is: That\'s it for the Other One. Damn I missed it. Were all parts played all verses sung?
BTW Wolf thanx but there is a place for reviews.
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From Wolfman:To digress into setlist geekdom for a moment, I think that Freddie is right, and that if there is a Hardluck Harry Reprise, this is what it is. My only question is, can a song segue into its own reprise, or is that just an extension of the same song?)
A reprise is just that a reprise. Once a song has been left for another song unless it is just an exploration of the melodic or rhythmic theme otherwise known as a tease it is over.
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Here\'s a quick one from last night
(http://www.tkaphotos.com/PB2004-0611_5165.jpg)
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Originally posted by leith
BTW Wolf thanx but there is a place for reviews.
it\'s ok, since we hadn\'t really made it official yet.. but i finally got around to typing this up, so if everyone could take a minute to read this, it\'d save us a lot of work. thanks!
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Originally posted by medusanyc
The Dead song they covered was not The Eleven. It was The Other One (or officially Cryptical Envelopement). Please make the correct adjustment to the archive databases.
Another stellar show at Porters!!!
it was just the other one...no cryptical(the jerry intro)
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the second set was incredible from the start...the question mark and vera street worked out great together and i felt like i was soaked in static...all fuzzy feeling. doughboy got things bouncing again leading up to a great superfly and a surprising other one.
adrian did a nice job singing summertime blues and sweat leaf. i think if they every do summertime blues again, it really needs to be a bit heavier or fuzzed out ala blue cheer.
had a great time lastnight despite my friends bailing out on me before the show (as usaual) and also the sobriety checkpoint on the way to porter\'s.
"have you had anything to drink tonight?" ummm not yet....but i did eat some ********* about 15 minutes ago!
i could only imagine what woulda happened had i said that...
thanks to everyone who helped me find my phone...and everybody who told me how to find my way back home. was that a fishhook left? a hairpin right?
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Few more thoughts about last night:
The Eleven was not the 1st time played last night. It was played at the only non 10-31 breakfast show not billed as the "Freakout". Sung by Josh Kroop.
The Sweet Leaf mania at the end was sick. Adrian was destroying the drums, Timmy was playing behind the back, Ronnie was flippin out and rocking out, and jordan was playing his organ from the inside......SICK
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Chowin down on great food while pb is playing + hot waitress + beers = Heaven. Porters is the shit.
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
Few more thoughts about last night:
The Eleven was not the 1st time played last night. It was played at the only non 10-31 breakfast show not billed as the "Freakout". Sung by Josh Kroop.
The Sweet Leaf mania at the end was sick. Adrian was destroying the drums, Timmy was playing behind the back, Ronnie was flippin out and rocking out, and jordan was playing his organ from the inside......SICK
The Eleven not played last nite. Also not played 10/31/98 or even 10/31/01. However The Other One was played last nite and on 10/31/01. Man if only there was gonna be a GD Diesel :sigh:
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The Other One was also played on 03-01-03 with the Seth Yacovone Band at Paul\'s in Belmar, NJ.
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wow, you with think with the amount of gd fans on this board we could get this correct.
THEY PLAYED CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT
not the eleven, not the other one.
heres why: the eleven, is in 11/8. This song was straight 4/4. The elevens lyrics are different. The other one is an short acoustic song sung by jerry with lyrics "The other day they waited, the sky was dark and faided, solemly they stated, he has to die."
Now, on anthem of the sun, the songs are The other one > Cryptical envelopment. Cryptical Envelopment starts with a climbing bass line by phil, and is sung by bob weir. The lyrics are "Skipping through the lilly fields, I came across an empty space, rainbow spinned around and round left a bus stop in its place, the bus came by and I got on thats when it all began, it was cowboy neil at the wheel the bus to never-never land, commin, commin, comming around, commin, commin, comming around into a circle"
These were the lyrics jordan was singing, thus this was the song they played. The band has been labeling the song incorrectly the whole time, the same way they had eat that phone book quota named inccorrectly.
as far as setlist, here is what I had, which varies from both of the others. Also, I wasnt drinking.
soundcheck:
Jam, The Chase, Jams, Vera st.*, Episode 1*, Jam*
Tim walking around playing the acoustic: Jam*, Waste*
I. Wake up in a coma>fairy 4.0, The great big fierry ball in the sky, summertime blues, no regrets^, LDZ>Hard Luck Harry>Son of simpleton, beef barley, food for though>White wedding%>food for though, Dig
II. Questionmark and the mind*, Vera st.*, Doughboy, Superfly phatty fat**, CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT>What the Funk?, Sleeping Beauty^, Drunk Monk Bar^^, Dimension 5, Wild Pack of ass cracks, Sweet leaf
* Tim playing a taylor acoustic he just got
^these songs were announced as being on the upcomming album
%First time played, dedicated to Ron and Lisa as this was the last gig where Ron will be single
**Life in the fast lane (eagles) tease
^^Enter the champions (circus theme) and Here comes the bride teases
Also, I was told that there was a hit the road jack tease during Doughboy, but I didnt hear it.
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Originally posted by FrankZappa
heres why: the eleven, is in 11/8. This song was straight 4/4.
It\'s not 4/4, it\'s 6/8.
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ha,i totally forgot about the cryptical from belmar..i do,however,remember kroopy jumpin up there and doing an excelent rendition of the tune!
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Originally posted by Wolfman
It\'s not 4/4, it\'s 6/8.
I\'ll check it in my sheet music book when I get home. I always counted it as 4/4. You could count it either way, but the rythmn is pretty driving on the off beat for 6/8. Either way, it wasnt 11/8.
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Paul, believe me You are wrong about Cryptical and The Other One. Cryptical is the intro w/ the words"The other day they waited, the sky was dark and faided, solemly they stated, he has to die." Track listing is as follows: a)cryptical envelopment b)quodlibet for tenderfeet c)the faster we go the rounder we get d) we leave the castle The entire suite is called That\'s It For The Other One the reason for the 4 seperate parts was to get more $$$ from the record company and royalties. Cryptical was retired by GD in the early 80\'s and the other 3 parts came to be known together as The Other One. "Skipping through the lilly fields, I came across an empty space, rainbow spinned around and round left a bus stop in its place, the bus came by and I got on thats when it all began, it was cowboy neil at the wheel the bus to never-never land, commin, commin, comming around, commin, commin, comming around into a circle"
These were the lyrics jordan was singing, thus this was the song they played.
If these lyrics were sung the song sung WAS THE OTHER ONE NOT THE ELEVEN OR CRYPTICAL!!!!!
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I wasn\'t there, so obviously, I don\'t know what they played, but if it had the words "Comming, comming, comming around, coming around..." it was The Other One.
I didn\'t think that Cryptical had any words...??
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Cryptical does. "U know he had to die" etc.
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DEFINITELY NO CRYPTICAL
can\'t believe all this confusion...
i thinnnk some people may get confused if they have the "hundred year hall" discs cause on there it lists "the other one" as "cryptical envelopment"
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steve with the call of the night..well,either way,it was ser!!btw,and links to the torrent????
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SUCH A GOOD TIME LAST NIGHT
so good....i flipped when they started up w/ the dead tune...wow kids...
what a fun fun fun fun fun night
Porters rocks....the bartender on the top floor...red head...very nice
great show great time
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We need to get our Dead straight children..... Cryptical and Other One couldn\'t be any more different..... I\'m sure they didn\'t play Cryptical.
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You\'re all wrong, they played Terrapin Station.
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i couldve sworn i heard touch of gray.or was it truckin,i always confuse those 2...
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wow.. glad i don\'t claim to be a dead fan.. this is worse than my Demand/Split Open & Melt argument after that Sully\'s show! :lol:
oh, and speaking of porter\'s, who\'da thought you\'d ever see Avril Lavigne at a Breakfast show?? :D
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sorry...my computer is down...i was there....i can state without hesitation it was "the other one".....nothing else.....but oh what another one!
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was wondering where you\'ve been, duane!
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Did anyone meet Weekapaug at Porters? I know i didnt.....or at least i dont remember....
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i dont know the exact name of the song...
but it\'s on Disc 2 of Dick\'s Picks Volume 1...its an early early show of the Grateful Deads...its played with in a "jam" that comes a few songs after Truckin..
lemme look it up...
but its the EXACT same thing they played..note for note (within reason) word for word
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It\'s The Other One
im not a setlist junkie by any means when it comes to the Dead...but thats what the song is listed as by Dick...and he knows his dead
and its the same song as they played this past Friday
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steevie,ive met weekapuag now several times,including porters.hes always the tool with all the redsox gear!!lol
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Originally posted by davepeck
oh, and speaking of porter\'s, who\'da thought you\'d ever see Avril Lavigne at a Breakfast show?? :D
that girl had the nasty glare at you peck...u didnt tell her she looked like Avril did u??
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Originally posted by DocEllis70
that girl had the nasty glare at you peck...u didnt tell her she looked like Avril did u??
i absolutely did.. she said she\'s heard it before. luckily she didn\'t come after me like she did pitchie! i swear that girl was posessed! i was like, \'why\'s she have to go and make things so complicated??\'.. :D
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Originally posted by davepeck
i was like, \'why\'s she have to go and make things so complicated??\'.. :D
Answer: WOMEN ARE CRAZY.
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I dunno if you can call my rendition an actual "song" but thanks for the note Steve..
Leith is correct. The Eleven was not played but usually tags the end of older St Stephens.
Cryptical usually predicated the Other One and i think almost always they go together.
Porter\'s was indeed just "That\'s it for the Other One" and extremely well done i might add. Jordan nailed it!
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first documented cryptical envelopment: 10/22/67 winterland arena
goes into 13 year hibernation following 9/23/72 palace theater - waterbury, ct
comes outta retirement: 6/16/85 greek theater - berkely, ca
last ever: 9/3/85 starlight theater - kansas city, mo
confusion seems to follow the song around cause it has been seen in people\'s setlists post 9/3/85...
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Originally posted by bluefunknebula
first documented cryptical envelopment: 10/22/67 winterland arena
goes into 13 year hibernation following 9/23/72 palace theater - waterbury, ct
comes outta retirement: 6/16/85 greek theater - berkely, ca
last ever: 9/3/85 starlight theater - kansas city, mo
confusion seems to follow the song around cause it has been seen in people\'s setlists post 9/3/85...
I remember the Greek bustout and how bummed I was when they put it back in the drawer.
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I was there in \'67 at Winterland........
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Originally posted by rustyD
I was there in \'67 at Winterland........
If you\'re Ser then I guess you may have pulled into the lead for oldest PB fan huh?
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My two cents on Porters:
From strictly an energy standpoint, this was a peak show. The guys looked rested, loose and happy to be there. I enjoyed the first set immensely from first note to last and caught myself numerous times with the dopey grin for no reason reminiscent of so many Dead and PB shows of the past. As good a single set as we are likely to get. I completely related to Wolf\'s comment about "The Other One" in the 2nd set, feeling it coming, willing it out of tease and into full blown song.