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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: leith on November 27, 2005, 03:27:25 pm
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TLG 2005:
Killed Bonnaroo.
Opened for DMB.
Joined onstage by Bob Weir and Trey Anastasio @ different shows.
Break-out year in New York City with shows at The Knitting Factory; 2-night stand album release party at Coda
Wrapping up the year opening for Govt. Mule and Trey.
Monterey Peninsula new booking agent
Name recognition way up
Crowds growing all over the country
More tapers begin to record TLG
TLG LIVE starts w/ the release of 2 stellar shows from this summer @ GAMH
3rd studio album Taught to be Proud released.
Several blogs and websites adopt TLG as a feature band including LiveMusicBlog, The Hiatus, Nugs.net, Archive.org, and others...
Articles in Honest Tune magazine (band name listed on front cover) & Relix (multiple mentions)
Interviews released on radio shows and podcasts (Eclectic Mix, etc.)
And a growing family:
Several Forum members reach 1000 post thresh-hold of official obsession
Bfast 2005:
Festival favorites @ 10KL and moe.down
Joined onstage by Sean Miller and Jeremy Wall @ different shows.
Crescendo Artists new booking agent
3rd studio album Real Radio released
Cemented their reputation as a "quirky jamband" w/ A Star Wars themed Halloween show and 2 shows featuring a complete cover of classic rock albums in the 2nd set of each show.
And a growing family:
Fansite reaches over a 1000 members.
Just a few things that make me go HMMMMMMMM?
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I know the point here is to overshadow the Breakfast\'s recent accomplishments by inserting a seemingly endless list of TLG fortune, though the two bands are not homogenous products operating under the same circumstances. There are infinite variables that explain why the two have diverged throughout 2005. Since I know very little about TLG, I hope to provide more to the discussion once I join you at the S.F. show next month.
It was just recently mentioned that Crescendo is working to pair Breakfast with New Monsoon in the coming months. I\'m hoping we see more alliances and opening slots for larger bands in the future. I think they will get better slots at some of the festivals next year (how can they not after maxing out the space provided at both Moe.down and 10,000 Lakes?).
What is our role? How about a newspaper campaign? Let\'s write to every arts/entertainment contributor in our local/regional papers and ask them to pay attention to this magical band from CT. Pretty simple plan to execute. We could find one particularly adept writer (from .info) and ask him/her to create a template or general letter that we can all use to contact our local press. I\'m sure a few people will end up writing about the band if we also include a music sample.
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Actually the point of the thread is just a ventilation of frustration that has been building over the past year as I saw my favorite band basically go nowhere in what was to be The Year of The Breakfast what with a Jammy in the bag and an awesome new Studio release.
They did tour a little into the south and midwest and really really concentrated on working the NE market with from what I can tell just a minor bump in show attendence.
I listed TLG as they are of course my 2nd favorite band and have been around a similar amount of time w/ members of like age to my favorite band.
The bands draw from the same TYPE of audience and started the year drawing about the same numbers.
This list just shows how different a year can be for 2 bands and hopefully NEXT year will see a Bfast list twice the size of TLG\'s.
OH and if The Bfast can get that together to tour w/ New Monsoon. They will be stoked. New Monsoon is drawing good numbers and they rip. It would be a killer show. Imagine their Tabla player sitting in w/ Adrian. ooohhhhhhh!!
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Leith, Do you post as much about TB on the TLG forum as you TLG on TB forum?
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once again,another bullshit thread by a supposed "fan" that dosent in any way/shape/form help the band out,whatsoever..
keep your bullshit on the tlg board,guy..
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I really hope some dates with New Monsoon work out. I would love to spend an evening with the two bands.
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once again,another bullshit thread by a supposed "fan" that dosent in any way/shape/form help the band out,whatsoever..
keep your bullshit on the tlg board,guy..
unlike this (http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5690) kind of thread. ;)
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once again,another bullshit thread by a supposed "fan" that dosent in any way/shape/form help the band out,whatsoever..
keep your bullshit on the tlg board,guy..
unlike this (http://www.thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5690) kind of thread. ;)
i wouldnt say that thread hurts at all.
its funny,if you ask me.
some folks prefer to say shit that dosent help.
comedy=helps
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Leith, Do you post as much about TB on the TLG forum as you TLG on TB forum?
I only really post here Alli. The crazy mix of characters that make up The Bfast Fam are by far more fun to chat w/ than any other board I have ventured upon. It helps that I like alot of the same stuff many on this board do also. As far as posting on the TLG board I used to pimp them alot but everyone there already knows and is turned onto The Bfast for the most part. Very accepting folks over there by the way.
once again,another bullshit thread by a supposed "fan" that dosent in any way/shape/form help the band out,whatsoever..
keep your bullshit on the tlg board,guy..
Hey Wah! Blow Me. I am spending upwards of $300 to fly out again to see this band I am a "supposed fan "of. I think I can rant all the fuck I want on this board.
Where else am I going to voice my concern that this wonderful band seems to be heading the way of becoming another Max Creek. Local favorite that ventures out every once in awhile keeping only the local hardcore fanbase happy w/ shows.
You tell me. Maybe the list can act as a kick in the butt to say HEY LOOK WHAT YOU COULD BE DOING ALSO!!!!!!!!! Come On how long is this BS of the band is fine, in a great place now, the coming months will show this path is best.... gonna last?
You tell me.
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It was just recently mentioned that Crescendo is working to pair Breakfast with New Monsoon in the coming months.
Really? Where did this news come from? That would be a great for the Bfast and the fans.
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All I know is that this fanbase continues to work harder and better than any other for their band. Our fan website, fan newsletter, tapers, and showgoers are as good as anyone\'s. Of course there\'s always more that could be done and I like everyone\'s ideas. Fan effort is one of the best things this band has going for it.
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No doubt about it. The Breakfast fanbase is almost as fanatical as umphreaks. The addition of The Breakfast Digest shows me that the fanaticism is just placed in better places. ;)
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who fuckin cares guy? so what, raq pulls in bigger shows and more hype than the breakfast as well, doesn\'t mean shit really in the long run. let tlg have whatever they fuckin want, the breakfast has four of the best down to earth musicians in the scene and some of the coolest, most comradic fans out there, and thats all that really matters. music ain\'t some sort of fucking competition, its about being there and enjoying the moment, and thanks to this band and these fans, we\'ve had plenty of \'moments\' all year long, so keep up the good work everybody. and vent your frustrations elsewhere, that shit is whack.
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I\'ll vent where I want however I want. You don\'t like it fine. Noted.
Even mentioning RAQ pulls in more folk just drives my point home even more.
The fact (pulling 2 threads together) that they turned down what could have been a good exposure gig for them for solo projects does not show that they want to gain new BREAKFAST fans.
I for one would like to see them achieve more if only for the selfish reason that they may play closer to me. I think they deserve more but they need to take opportunities when they come around. Turn down things and stagnation can creep in. I would hate to see that happen.
So I will continue to vent that way you won\'t hear it in person when I come out. Unless you really want to.
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It was just recently mentioned that Crescendo is working to pair Breakfast with New Monsoon in the coming months.
Really? Where did this news come from? That would be a great for the Bfast and the fans.
Mentioned by Steffmo in another thread, most likely found in the "What is wrong with this picture" thread.
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Some people can never be pleased. They\'ve been destroying show after show after show and fan after fan after fan for quite some time now. They just played a Midwest run that all seemed to have brought in more fans than the show they played in their homestate upon their return, yet still you can find something worth complaining about. If the Breakfast want to travel at their own pace, then who are we to argue w/ them. Its their lifes and livelihoods and yes, of course we all want to see them succeed, but I\'d hate to sacrifice some of the good things we have now(Timmy Tour, constant other side projects, a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does. You gotta take the bad w/ the good, and at this point, the good is head and shoulders more worth it than a few complaints we can dig up.
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TLG=horrible band
TB=Unfucking real, honest to god musicians sent to us from the heavens.
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It was just recently mentioned that Crescendo is working to pair Breakfast with New Monsoon in the coming months.
Really? Where did this news come from? That would be a great for the Bfast and the fans.
Mentioned by Steffmo in another thread, most likely found in the "What is wrong with this picture" thread.
I hope the Breakfast be headlining these shows. New Monsoon is aiight, but surely nothing to write home about.
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wasn\'t new monsoon one of the bands that pb beat out for new groove of the year? am i mistaken about that?
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Some people can never be pleased. They\'ve been destroying show after show after show and fan after fan after fan for quite some time now. They just played a Midwest run that all seemed to have brought in more fans than the show they played in their homestate upon their return, yet still you can find something worth complaining about. If the Breakfast want to travel at their own pace, then who are we to argue w/ them. Its their lifes and livelihoods and yes, of course we all want to see them succeed, but I\'d hate to sacrifice some of the good things we have now(Timmy Tour, constant other side projects, a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does. You gotta take the bad w/ the good, and at this point, the good is head and shoulders more worth it than a few complaints we can dig up.
You don\'t want to give up Timmy Tour and constant side projects. Weak.
I would take 5 min of The Breakfast in full jam than any of the side projects which are ONLY FOR LOCAL FANS! So you tell me how is THAT caring for their fanbase? Turning down Bfast gigs for solo Projects How is that caring for Bfast fans?
You really think that little of them that you think they would turn into assholes once they have gained attention? Come On.
I\'ll be happy on 12/9 and 12/10 and then I will bask in that for the rest of the year and I\'ll start bitching again when it hits me that They STILL have not made it out here(sometime in Feb. probably).
It was just recently mentioned that Crescendo is working to pair Breakfast with New Monsoon in the coming months.
Really? Where did this news come from? That would be a great for the Bfast and the fans.
Mentioned by Steffmo in another thread, most likely found in the "What is wrong with this picture" thread.
I hope the Breakfast be headlining these shows. New Monsoon is aiight, but surely nothing to write home about.
I highly doubt The Breakfast will be headlining over a NATIONAL TOURING ACT. Maybe if they play in Ct. together.
TLG=horrible band
TB=Unfucking real, honest to god musicians sent to us from the heavens.
The guys in TLG are really great guys and to say they are horrible is silly.
I do not think Trey or Bob Weir would be seen on stage w/ them if they were horrible. Come On!
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TLG= weaksauce, circular playing, that weak west coast soft groove. Fluffy beach music..... not even. Give me a Tribal Funk any day!!!
And If I\'m not mistakened Trey and Bob Weir have both been battling with drug addiction the past few years so it doesn\'t suprise me that their ears are filled with excessive amounts of wax.
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Some people can never be pleased. They\'ve been destroying show after show after show and fan after fan after fan for quite some time now. They just played a Midwest run that all seemed to have brought in more fans than the show they played in their homestate upon their return, yet still you can find something worth complaining about. If the Breakfast want to travel at their own pace, then who are we to argue w/ them. Its their lifes and livelihoods and yes, of course we all want to see them succeed, but I\'d hate to sacrifice some of the good things we have now(Timmy Tour, constant other side projects, a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does. You gotta take the bad w/ the good, and at this point, the good is head and shoulders more worth it than a few complaints we can dig up.
You don\'t want to give up Timmy Tour and constant side projects. Weak.
I would take 5 min of The Breakfast in full jam than any of the side projects which are ONLY FOR LOCAL FANS! So you tell me how is THAT caring for their fanbase? Turning down Bfast gigs for solo Projects How is that caring for Bfast fans?
You really think that little of them that you think they would turn into assholes once they have gained attention? Come On.
I\'ll be happy on 12/9 and 12/10 and then I will bask in that for the rest of the year and I\'ll start bitching again when it hits me that They STILL have not made it out here(sometime in Feb. probably).
It shows that Tim cares about his \'core\' fanbase while the rest of the band are content to spend a few nights w/ their wives/girlfriends or what have you. Turning down Breakfast gigs for solo projects? so what are you talking about here? Porter\'s? Sorry, but after the drum and bass gig, most the fans there along w/ the two band members and sound man were pretty much all in agreement that the place isn\'t nearly as suited to Breakfast shows as it once was. Hell, it barely was before as can be seen by the madness that went down at the final show there, no one missed out on that one. And did I say that I thought they\'d change that way? Nope. Hell, moe. brings in a lot more fans than bands like UM and Raq combined, but their bandmembers are more down to earth and chill than either of those. With the skills Tim possesses, nothing is holding him back from being a holier than thou fuckwad right now, but we all know better than that. you try to hard to find points to argue when I\'m not even insinuating such things. Get a grip boss.
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What went down at the last Porter\'s show?
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TLG= weaksauce, circular playing, that weak west coast soft groove. Fluffy beach music..... not even. Give me a Tribal Funk any day!!!
And If I\'m not mistakened Trey and Bob Weir have both been battling with drug addiction the past few years so it doesn\'t suprise me that their ears are filled with excessive amounts of wax.
Yeah that\'s why they are opening for Gov\'t Mule starting this week. Warren is a sucker for weak west coast soft grooves. So what is your sad excuse if Warren plays w/ them, which will happen. I don\'t hear anyone calling him out for drug use.
Keep up the Breakfast fan line of they are so good no one else is they should be bigger but why do I only see them in little bars and clubs? Oh they are TOO GOOD that\'s why. pffft
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That\'s cause Warren Haynes sucks and is an alcoholic. The Breakfast have had too many curved balls tossed their way, it\'s just a matter of time until the masses start to get IT! I love Umphrey\'s and RAQ is decent (at least when they cover Zappa), but TLG is the sorriest excuse of a bunch of musicians I\'ve ever seen/ They\'re better suited for American Idol...
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Some people can never be pleased. They\'ve been destroying show after show after show and fan after fan after fan for quite some time now. They just played a Midwest run that all seemed to have brought in more fans than the show they played in their homestate upon their return, yet still you can find something worth complaining about. If the Breakfast want to travel at their own pace, then who are we to argue w/ them. Its their lifes and livelihoods and yes, of course we all want to see them succeed, but I\'d hate to sacrifice some of the good things we have now(Timmy Tour, constant other side projects, a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does. You gotta take the bad w/ the good, and at this point, the good is head and shoulders more worth it than a few complaints we can dig up.
You don\'t want to give up Timmy Tour and constant side projects. Weak.
I would take 5 min of The Breakfast in full jam than any of the side projects which are ONLY FOR LOCAL FANS! So you tell me how is THAT caring for their fanbase? Turning down Bfast gigs for solo Projects How is that caring for Bfast fans?
You really think that little of them that you think they would turn into assholes once they have gained attention? Come On.
I\'ll be happy on 12/9 and 12/10 and then I will bask in that for the rest of the year and I\'ll start bitching again when it hits me that They STILL have not made it out here(sometime in Feb. probably).
It shows that Tim cares about his \'core\' fanbase while the rest of the band are content to spend a few nights w/ their wives/girlfriends or what have you. Turning down Breakfast gigs for solo projects? so what are you talking about here? Porter\'s? Sorry, but after the drum and bass gig, most the fans there along w/ the two band members and sound man were pretty much all in agreement that the place isn\'t nearly as suited to Breakfast shows as it once was. Hell, it barely was before as can be seen by the madness that went down at the final show there, no one missed out on that one. And did I say that I thought they\'d change that way? Nope. Hell, moe. brings in a lot more fans than bands like UM and Raq combined, but their bandmembers are more down to earth and chill than either of those. With the skills Tim possesses, nothing is holding him back from being a holier than thou fuckwad right now, but we all know better than that. you try to hard to find points to argue when I\'m not even insinuating such things. Get a grip boss.
Steffmo said they turned down a BREAKFAST opening gig for DTB to play solo projects that\'s where. Read it helps. He even posted a remark to the effect that he did not know what people were thinking sometimes. Even HE thinks the gig should have been taken! Read!!!
As for the insinuation YOU put it there in your misguided attempt to talk shit on Stoops.
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TLG= weaksauce, circular playing, that weak west coast soft groove. Fluffy beach music..... not even. Give me a Tribal Funk any day!!!
And If I\'m not mistakened Trey and Bob Weir have both been battling with drug addiction the past few years so it doesn\'t suprise me that their ears are filled with excessive amounts of wax.
oh my! comes out jabbing in post #1 and swinging away with #2. IMO...i like the breakfast a lot more than tlg....but i still think that tlg is a great band that i plan to explore some more. i think they are also a fair band to compare the breakfast to, not for talent or music, but for business and progress. we can also discuss the talent and music but my points would center around the breakfasts strong points which i personally think are unmatched in many respects, rather than demeaning an obviously talented band with a great future. that\'s just me though. i\'m not going to address your second point there. i\'m gonna chalk it up to exuberance and walk away. welcome to the board though!
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That\'s cause Warren Haynes sucks and is an alcoholic. The Breakfast have had too many curved balls tossed their way, it\'s just a matter of time until the masses start to get IT! I love Umphrey\'s and RAQ is decent (at least when they cover Zappa), but TLG is the sorriest excuse of a bunch of musicians I\'ve ever seen/ They\'re better suited for American Idol...
Cool you keep thinking that and when The Bfast is opening for them remember to get there early the opener only gets about an hour.
Oh wait that won\'t happen \'cause there will probably be a Boomers show or something and The Breakfast won\'t take the gig.
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That\'s cause Warren Haynes is an alcoholic.
aren\'t we all some weekends!
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I saw TLG as openers multiple times. I fell asleep every time. The Breakfast and UM own face beyond recognition.
Old Newb, I love Trey\'s new album, it\'s very reaffirming of the energy that\'s in him, I\'m just wondering why him and Weir would waste their times with a bunch of Cali pretty boys.... It\'s all business and it\'s all crap. iVIVA EL BREAKFAST!!!
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YOu guys who refuse to admit that the breakfast can do any wrong and bashing those who dare to say otherwise are just as lame as leith whining in my opinion.
Lets face facts.
This band rules face and 2005 was a great year for them.
This band also makes some STUPID FUCKING DECISIONS.
I\'ll take this opportunity to add another to the already long list...
Refusing to play the biggest breakfast town in NY and snub every fan in that town because they feel they are too good for a venue that is obviously small but that they have also NEVER SOLD OUT....
....STUPID FUCKING MOVE.
There is nothing wrong with saying stuff like this.
It doesnt make me any less of a fan or hurt the breakfasts reputation.
Its the stupid ass moves they make thats hurting the band, not us pointing out those stupid moves.
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I saw TLG as openers multiple times. I fell asleep every time. The Breakfast and UM own face beyond recognition.
Old Newb, I love Trey\'s new album, it\'s very reaffirming of the energy that\'s in him, I\'m just wondering why him and Weir would waste their times with a bunch of Cali pretty boys.... It\'s all business and it\'s all crap. iVIVA EL BREAKFAST!!!
You fell asleep? LOL you lie .TLG plays to loud to fall asleep. If they were so horrible how could you sleep. Music that is disturbing to a listener will not put them to sleep. You don\'t like them to bad for you thousands of others do.
Oh why because they see a band WORTH putting time into one that is hard working ACROSS THE NATION. And they unlike you realize TLG is talented.
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No, they bored me to death.. I always hated when people compared Phish to the Dead, but I agree with ANYONE who says TLG attempts to sound like the dead.. It\'s shoddy, it\'s too americana, it\'s Diet Wilco without the semi-genius rantings of a midwestern farm boy. I\'m just waiting for Jon Gutwillig to confront the guitarist on ripping off his hairdo....
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No, they bored me to death.. I always hate when people compared Phish to the Dead, but I agree with ANYONE who says TLG attempts to sound like the dead.. It\'s shoddy, it\'s too americana, it\'s Diet Wilco without the semi-genius rantings of a midwestern farm boy. I\'m just waiting for Jon Gutwillig to confront the guitarist on ripping off his hairdo....
That post right there confirmed to me you have no clue. Cool Now I know where you come from when you post nonsense.
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it\'s too americana, ...
is that possible?
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it\'s too americana, ...
is that possible?
Yeah that is one remark that showed the cluenessness I see emerging from this persons posts.
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Americana isn\'t good music in my book. TLG is weak, VIVA Timmy and da Boyz....
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Americana isn\'t good music in my book. TLG is weak, VIVA Timmy and da Boyz....
If ever there was a time for this smilie.
:fucktard:
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Why don\'t you go to sea world, fuck a porpoise, and get off the Breakfast board then!!!
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Why don\'t you go to sea world, fuck a porpoise, and get off the Breakfast board then!!!
six posts in and he\'s already throwing leith out. LMFAO. for the record t/chic.....leith has done more to try and promote the breakfast and their interests then most of the people on this board. you can question his attitude, his beliefs or even his sexual persuasion......but you need just a bit more time at the table before you get in that line!
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Sorry but he called me a fucktard....... He\'s bashing his supposed favorite band and singing the praises of one of the worst bands on the scene today. The band can\'t magically get up and tour, they\'re humans, most of them are married, and on top of it they don\'t have a nice egg nest to work from, unlike TLG$$$$
The Breakfast=The workingman\'s band
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Why don\'t you go to sea world, fuck a porpoise, and get off the Breakfast board then!!!
six posts in and he\'s already throwing leith out. LMFAO. for the record t/chic.....leith has done more to try and promote the breakfast and their interests then most of the people on this board. you can question his attitude, his beliefs or even his sexual persuasion......but you need just a bit more time at the table to question his love of this band!
Thanx Duane. As you well know anything this person has got is NOTHING compared to what I whethered from Wah or WALSH .
TreyChica Chill the fuck out!
I think you misconstrue what Americana Music is. It is NOT folkie, or country or bluegrass. It is Original American Music. The emphasis being on AMERICAN.
Guess what ? The Breakfast are both Original and American (though Italy has a say). The Basis of alot of rock and roll is considered Americana. What you probably meant was TLG sound too much like the music The Dead produced in their Workingman\'s Dead/ American Beauty era. Which is very countryish. They may have some of that due to the fact that they are from the same place as many of the artists like Grateful Dead, San Francisco. They are a totally different band than The Breakfast and are my 2nd favorite band. You take a guess which is my Favorite?
As for the style they play it is not East Coast hard energy but if you do not think they rock you may need to see someone about that ADD.
Sorry but he called me a fucktard....... He\'s bashing his supposed favorite band and singing the praises of one of the worst bands on the scene today. The band can\'t magically get up and tour, they\'re humans, most of them are married, and on top of it they don\'t have a nice egg nest to work from, unlike TLG$$$$
The Breakfast=The workingman\'s band
Well cry baby waaahhh Whatever. As far as you thinking TLG sux that\'s cool but it does not dismiss the fact that they are making it with talent.
Oh and a workingman\'s band is what TLG is dumbass they tour constantly!
That is alot harder than kicking it around town doing side projects and then playing the same places locally. A week tour of 3-4 cities is not a tour just cause it was in the midwest.
Be real Treychica. You may not like TLG but not everyone likes The Breakfast. I say too bad for them but I also think you are missing the boat on TLG oh well different strokes...
The Bfast rule we agree there and let it rest.
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I don\'t think The Breakfast are Americana, nope, they\'re progressive funk fusion. East Coast hard energy is where it\'s at. Faces owned, pants wet with piss. Tea Leaf Green are crappy, plain and simple.... And Americana is considered a fusion of rock with country, bluegrass and folk........ hoo haa bumpkin shit if you ask me... Owning face is the only way to go. Breakfast fans for energy and ownage, Tea Leaf Green fans for Q-Tips that they so desperately need.
Yeah they dont work as hard as the breakfast. My point is they had starting $$$$ and TB didn\'t, it makes a HELLA huge difference when it comes to touring!!
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I don\'t think The Breakfast are Americana, nope, they\'re progressive funk fusion. East Coast hard energy is where it\'s at. Faces owned, pants wet with piss. Tea Leaf Green are crappy, plain and simple.... And Americana is considered a fusion of rock with country, bluegrass and folk........ hoo haa bumpkin shit if you ask me... Owning face is the only way to go. Breakfast fans for energy and ownage, Tea Leaf Green fans for Q-Tips that they so desperately need.
You are confused. Your definition of Americana is as narrow as I suspect many of your views.
You are the type of fan that will do more harm than good by trashing other bands. I have supported The Breakfast more than you will ever know and am glad for ANY new fan of the band but tell you what. You think East coast energy blah blah is gonna make it ? No. That is why The Breakfast are learning to play slower more melodic compositions as they want to appeal to more than narrow mined east coasters like yourself. The y still RAGE LIKE BULLS IN A CHINA SHOP but are learning you can\'t force it down people\'s throats and expect to make it.
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your on a roll chica....if you haven\'t figured it out yet leith will always try to have the last word so you may want to just leave it at that face owning and call it a night ;)
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Sorry but he called me a fucktard....... He\'s bashing his supposed favorite band and singing the praises of one of the worst bands on the scene today. The band can\'t magically get up and tour, they\'re humans, most of them are married, and on top of it they don\'t have a nice egg nest to work from, unlike TLG$$$$
The Breakfast=The workingman\'s band
sorry but you trolled right into the fucktard thing. we get the idea....you don\'t like tlg. their progress and talent are undeniable IMO although i\'ve barely begun to listen to them. but this full frontal assault of them based on a conversation is a bit over the top also IMO.
on second thought.....you shouldn\'t hold back so much....tell us how you really feel.........gnite all.
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treychica, good job keeping up with leith!
Leith, please dont ever say the breakfast is gonna be opening for TLG ever again. It makes me want to hate you. ;) :(
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i\'ve only skimmed this thread due to the fact that i have no interest in what\'s going on, i\'ve never even heard tlg, and i\'m really tired...but i really think you should all get naked together and rub ky jelly all over your bodies while listening to tlg. i mean it\'s probably the only way to settle this dispute.
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treychica, good job keeping up with leith!
Leith, please dont ever say the breakfast is gonna be opening for TLG ever again. It makes me want to hate you. ;) :(
Ahh Alli you know I didn\'t mean it.
Though they do make a good match no matter what this person thinks. Tim had a blast playing with them and along w/ Josh C. @ High Sierra, he told me so himself.
i\'ve only skimmed this thread due to the fact that i have no interest in what\'s going on, i\'ve never even heard tlg, and i\'m really tired...but i really think you should all get naked together and rub ky jelly all over your bodies while listening to tlg. i mean it\'s probably the only way to settle this dispute.
ok I think I\'m off to think about that while checking out Mamalaka\'s beach pic ;)
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more than i needed to know, more than i needed to know...
not to crap on anyone\'s head or anything but i really did hear that tlg sucks.
wait now i feel like i saw them at moedown but i can\'t remember..ughhh oh well.
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:wipes keyboard off: Ok Mama you may have seen them it was early on Sun. b4 that hassidic rap guy. I didn\'t think you heard them. I know Gavin didn\'t like it but Duane and Jed liked it along with the good 1500 other folk digging them.
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Some people can never be pleased. They\'ve been destroying show after show after show and fan after fan after fan for quite some time now. They just played a Midwest run that all seemed to have brought in more fans than the show they played in their homestate upon their return, yet still you can find something worth complaining about. If the Breakfast want to travel at their own pace, then who are we to argue w/ them. Its their lifes and livelihoods and yes, of course we all want to see them succeed, but I\'d hate to sacrifice some of the good things we have now(Timmy Tour, constant other side projects, a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does. You gotta take the bad w/ the good, and at this point, the good is head and shoulders more worth it than a few complaints we can dig up.
You don\'t want to give up Timmy Tour and constant side projects. Weak.
I would take 5 min of The Breakfast in full jam than any of the side projects which are ONLY FOR LOCAL FANS! So you tell me how is THAT caring for their fanbase? Turning down Bfast gigs for solo Projects How is that caring for Bfast fans?
You really think that little of them that you think they would turn into assholes once they have gained attention? Come On.
I\'ll be happy on 12/9 and 12/10 and then I will bask in that for the rest of the year and I\'ll start bitching again when it hits me that They STILL have not made it out here(sometime in Feb. probably).
It shows that Tim cares about his \'core\' fanbase while the rest of the band are content to spend a few nights w/ their wives/girlfriends or what have you. Turning down Breakfast gigs for solo projects? so what are you talking about here? Porter\'s? Sorry, but after the drum and bass gig, most the fans there along w/ the two band members and sound man were pretty much all in agreement that the place isn\'t nearly as suited to Breakfast shows as it once was. Hell, it barely was before as can be seen by the madness that went down at the final show there, no one missed out on that one. And did I say that I thought they\'d change that way? Nope. Hell, moe. brings in a lot more fans than bands like UM and Raq combined, but their bandmembers are more down to earth and chill than either of those. With the skills Tim possesses, nothing is holding him back from being a holier than thou fuckwad right now, but we all know better than that. you try to hard to find points to argue when I\'m not even insinuating such things. Get a grip boss.
Steffmo said they turned down a BREAKFAST opening gig for DTB to play solo projects that\'s where. Read it helps. He even posted a remark to the effect that he did not know what people were thinking sometimes. Even HE thinks the gig should have been taken! Read!!!
As for the insinuation YOU put it there in your misguided attempt to talk shit on Stoops.
sorry, i got a life outside of reading every post on the .info, next time if you\'re gonna do that, throw in a citation of what you\'re talking about and where its origin is, all i can discuss is what i know first hand.
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I can\'t believe we fight over this shit.
Let\'s see.
Hmm, are the Breakfast where they should be? Absolutely not. Will they get there if they continue to deny gigs to play solo projects that bring in 20-30 same fans? Absolutely not. Will they gain any recognition if they never leave CT? Absolutely not. Do they want to be a big touring band? I have no idea.
The fact of the matter is this. We can not tell them what to do business wise. If they feel that they are doing the right thing, then so be it. Do I think they are doing the right thing, not really, but I also have the ability to boycott solo shows, if I choose.
I think ist bullshit that we attack fans who talk against the band. This band has come how far in the past year? Measure that, no what they are doing against other bands. Have they met all the goals they set out to accomplish this year?
I care 2 shits about what tis band is doing compared to that band, etc.
Maybe our expectations are larger then the band can provide at the moment. :shrug:
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all i know is that the guys are trying man. they are trying hard to get something going. it\'s easier said than done though. also, the job Tim and Ad have is called - musician. ron and jordan have day jobs, or at least jordan still does. Tim survives off solo shows, because they are what he gets his income from. Ad does the same along with lessons. i\'m sure the solo side projects will not last forever, but it\'s a pretty speical thing to be able to see my favorite guitartist 3 or 4 times a week if i want to. Hopefully the tour wagon will hit the road for an extensive period of time, and all I know is that they are trying. like igzi said, music isn\'t a competition. i want to see the band succeed as much as everyone, but if the band is content then we all should be. If the band is not happy, then we should step up the promoting and disc hand outs. I think everything will work out in time
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thanks again for the TLG discs leith....i think i\'ll toss one in right now
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alright I just read most of this but skipped a little at the end so sorry if I\'m repeating things
Leith:
1:Spend alittle more time out here and get to know whats going on before you come out w/ these "well meant" posts
2: Porter\'s was cancelled for good reasons, you would agree if you saw the place,
3: Porter\'s was not cancelled so Timmy and others could play sideprojects
4:As far as sideprojects go do you have any idea what it\'s like being a musican who in the GSOT really doesn\'t make much $$$$, How do you think Timmy pays his rent? the tip jar @ Richters that\'s how
5:hey give me Phil Lesh\'s # I\'ll set him up with Tim they\'d love to have some sit ins, oh wait you mean you can\'t do that... yeah neither can they
6:The Breakfast are The Breakfast, let\'s leave it at that, they are not TLG, we shouldn\'t even be comparing the two. Good for them for having a really good year, what the fuck does anyone on this board care, it\'s thebreakfast.info not TLG.info
7:as far as the New Monsoon dates go, as with any CO-HEADLING tour TB will open out west and NM will open here in the east,
8:don\'t forget that the breakfast are a national touring act as well, yes it\'s been awhile but they have still done numerous national tours.
Sorry GUY, just my two pennies
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Mamalaka is better than TLG...by far.
Alli made this thread a "Whole lot sexier".
Phil\'s new line-up RAWKS!!!
ODOYLE RULES!!!
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my2cents
i really dont like tlg. i saw them open for trey and the only good song was the one trey played on. Ive seen them open for the bfast i think, theyre mediocre at best. I cant even believe that they were opening for trey, i think its because if bfast opened for trey all the fans might like them better than trey. anyway, it blows my mind that tlg is getting big. i really dont see anything special with that band.
and i wish bfast would blow up quicker, i cant wait to see them in a larger venue than the shitty webster.
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i envy all musicians good or bad. it takes talent to play and create music. now, in my opinion, bands dont play with they breakfast because they are affraid of getting out played. if i was trey i would be afraid of timmy. i think gas prices has alot to do with the breakfast not touring outside of new england. $$$$$$$$$.
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alright I just read most of this but skipped a little at the end so sorry if I\'m repeating things
Leith:
1:Spend alittle more time out here and get to know whats going on before you come out w/ these "well meant" posts
2: Porter\'s was cancelled for good reasons, you would agree if you saw the place,
3: Porter\'s was not cancelled so Timmy and others could play sideprojects
4:As far as sideprojects go do you have any idea what it\'s like being a musican who in the GSOT really doesn\'t make much $$$$, How do you think Timmy pays his rent? the tip jar @ Richters that\'s how
5:hey give me Phil Lesh\'s # I\'ll set him up with Tim they\'d love to have some sit ins, oh wait you mean you can\'t do that... yeah neither can they
6:The Breakfast are The Breakfast, let\'s leave it at that, they are not TLG, we shouldn\'t even be comparing the two. Good for them for having a really good year, what the fuck does anyone on this board care, it\'s thebreakfast.info not TLG.info
7:as far as the New Monsoon dates go, as with any CO-HEADLING tour TB will open out west and NM will open here in the east,
8:don\'t forget that the breakfast are a national touring act as well, yes it\'s been awhile but they have still done numerous national tours.
Sorry GUY, just my two pennies
1. NO fuck that. I can conjecture just fine w/ the posts on .info
2. Fuck Porter\'s I never MENTIONED THE SHITHOLE! I AM UPSET THEY DID NOT TAKE THE DTB GIG DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. THE DTB GIG WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. You have any idea how hard it is to work as a freelance LD who in the GSOT doesn\'t make much $$? Pffft
5. No but I bet their management or booking agent could!!
6. I care because I think The Bfast should be in the place TLG are but they are not so I am upset because they COULD BE!
7. If they CO- HEADLINE. The Bfast Profile is so low I doubt many would be cobills.
8.Numerous national tours? Summer 2002, Spring/Fall 2003,Spring 2004 that\'s it. Each was under 3 weeks in length. Real tour warriors these Breakfast guys. pffft Come On.
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pfffffffft duh pffffffffft duh pfffffffffft. this thread sucks
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So now you advertise the fact that you are unhappy?? It\'s in your user title!!! I thought this was a place for fans not people who wabnt to bash the band andlist everything they\'re dong wrong. I understand your frustated Leith but you need to understand the way your coming across here and it\'s not good.
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lets go breakfast!!!!!!!! bang, bang,bang bang bang!
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Leith, I\'m trying not to be an asshole here, but your not making it easy. Your inbsulting people you don\'t know and trying to make the ines you do know feel stupid, yeah I told you I didn\'t read the whole post so why don\'t you READ!!!
The Breakfast should not be opening for anyone in their own market, @ a venue they have headlined, especially for a show like that where people are there to see DTB and and not the opener like when the Breakfast have openers people don\'t show until around 10 or so. Besides the fact that they just played a gig not ten minutes away last weekend.
NO fuck that. I can conjecture just fine w/ the posts on .info
can you really?
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Dude the only person I dogged was Treychica,everyone else in this thread I know. Well 2 posters I have not responded to(Iccc.and Crimson....) So who am I insulting?
As for making the ones I do know feel stupid. Sorry but I thought this was .info where there are numerous threads most tied to each other.
I figured if another thread was mentioned a person would either look for it or ask about it. Whoops. So much for common sense.
DOES anyone remember when it was COMMONPLACE for Wah and others to dog the PB organization w/ renditions of the MICKEY MOUSE CLUB posted here?
That showed they cared.
Now his and most of your heads are so far up The Bfast asses you all can not see that they could and should be doing waay better than they are.
Does anyone remember the excitement we ALL FELT AT THE START OF THE YEAR???????
Now truthfully think of that time and now do you really really think The Breakfast accomplished as much as you thought they would now that it is the end of the year?
I KNOW I DO NOT!!!
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Drama.
And I haven\'t even posted yet
:deadhorse
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^^and you say your not dogging anyone did you read that before you posted it, your telling me I\'m not using common sense and I"m not supposed to be insulted????
Yes, people used to dog the band over certain things, but as you yourself mentioned it\'s not like that anymore here. Your the only one. Everyone\'s made the effort to be positive
Basically my only point is why should we be sitting here B&M about this comparing them to another ban dthey have nothing to do with, what are you accpomplishing here?? I tjust doesn\'t seem very constructive
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i agree with leith, i guess. everyone is frusrated with the fact that the breakfast hasn\'t jumped to the next big level. whatever that is. we would like to see them in bigger venues playing in front of bigger crowds.bummer. i love seeing them in these settings but i do wish to see them at the palace theatre sometime. it\'s easy to see they have as much or more talent than 99.99% of the bands out there. thats why we get angry.
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The Breakfast fanbase is almost as fanatical as umphreaks. The addition of The Breakfast Digest shows me that the fanaticism is just placed in better places. ;)
I agree with that 100%. that, in fact, was the first and biggest reason that I started getting more and more interested in them. I was really surprised to see how crazy people went about them because, at first, i unfortunately just thought of them as "just a local band", but was able to learn more about them and their history and how talented they are through the help of these fanatics. i take that as a really good sign.
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for those of you who have all the fuckin awnsers to this bands lack of hand me downs,try to find an agent or some rich fuck with fat connects to give US
a break.its easy to get someone like trey or bob weir to sit in w/ your band when you have close ties to them.
do you realy think bands make it based on tallent alone?I THINK NOT!!!
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leith,i hate to say it,but youve gone back to being the idiot from california that i cant stand.
i never wanted it to come to this again,but it has.
i knew since day 1 of you fluffin tlg over here that this thread was inevitable..
go to their board.
fluff them there.no big deal.
take your 300$plane ticket,and stick it up your gaping monstrosity you call a asshole.
this dosent help at all..
im sure the band would agree.
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this dosent help at all..
no, it doesn\'t.
the point of this thread is clearly not to personally attack anyone. while i do believe it\'s wrong to try to compare bands, there\'s absolutely nothing wrong with a fan voicing disgust over certain situations.
said fan has travelled further to see this band than 99% of the people on this board. if you disagree with him, fine. but the personal attacks end here.
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and now for something completely different............
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i wouldnt consider that a personal attack.
just my way of speaking my mind.
the same fan,is complaining about spending 300 bucks to travel here.
the way i look at it,stay in california
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i wouldnt consider that a personal attack.
just my way of speaking my mind.
the same fan,is complaining about spending 300 bucks to travel here.
the way i look at it,stay in california
Hey I never complained about the amount of $ it is taking to come out.
I only mentioned the fact that I am spending that $$ to see them BECAUSE I AM WORRIED THAT I WILL BE UNABLE TO SEE THEM OTHERWISE!!
It is purely a move made out of my fanatical obsession w/ a band I feel deserves more and I am afraid they may not get the "Break" they need to "make it".
I do not see a stable management base. The band members themselves rarely know what is happening on the tour front. How long have they had booking agents?
I think maybe if I had just made a thread mentioning the lack of progress this year vs waht we all EXPECTED I would still have had people pissed but more in agreement.
Having a list of accomplishments by a band in the same stage of development was only to prove a point.
Sorry you all can not face facts and deal w/ your feelings w/o attacking me.
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^^^ maybe you should have more faith
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http://www.tealeafgreen.info ---------------->thaddaway
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^^^^:that:
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for those of you who have all the fuckin awnsers to this bands lack of hand me downs,try to find an agent or some rich fuck with fat connects to give US
a break.its easy to get someone like trey or bob weir to sit in w/ your band when you have close ties to them.
do you realy think bands make it based on tallent alone?I THINK NOT!!!
1st off How do you figure TLG has "close ties" to either Bob Weir or Trey Anastasio? They have the same booking agent. Bob sat in during TLG\'s set @ a RAN benefit.
Opening for Trey, Trey liked them due to talent. Had 2 members sit in w/ him for an encore and then another show sat in on a song during their set.
Purely providence @ work there.
2nd I thought you guys had a new booking agent w/ connections?
Of course bands don\'t make it on Talent alone. If that was true this thread would not exist obviously!!!!!!!!!
Chill out and go write a new song. I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
Man toughlove sux!!
^^^ maybe you should have more faith
Faith is for those that have nothing solid to grab onto.
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for those of you who have all the fuckin awnsers to this bands lack of hand me downs,try to find an agent or some rich fuck with fat connects to give US
a break.its easy to get someone like trey or bob weir to sit in w/ your band when you have close ties to them.
do you realy think bands make it based on tallent alone?I THINK NOT!!!
1st off How do you figure TLG has "close ties" to either Bob Weir or Trey Anastasio? They have the same booking agent. Bob sat in during TLG\'s set @ a RAN benefit.
Opening for Trey, Trey liked them due to talent. Had 2 members sit in w/ him for an encore and then another show sat in on a song during their set.
Purely providence @ work there.
2nd I thought you guys had a new booking agent w/ connections?
Of course bands don\'t make it on Talent alone. If that was true this thread would not exist obviously!!!!!!!!!
Chill out and go write a new song. I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
Man toughlove sux!!
same booking agent=close ties.
are you ser guy?
find something to do in ca,brah
<<< just listened to 20+minutes off the tlg stream and its not my cup of tea(absolute dogshit)...
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I\'ll post this again.
I do not see a stable management base. The band members themselves rarely know what is happening on the tour front. How long have they had booking agents?
I think maybe if I had just made a thread mentioning the lack of progress this year vs what we all EXPECTED I would still have had people pissed but more in agreement.
Having a list of accomplishments by a band in the same stage of development was only to prove a point.
Sorry you all can not face facts and deal w/ your feelings w/o attacking me.
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I am personally aware of at least 1 major throw down for the spring/summer that wants this band to co-bill so to speak with a nationally known act. Not sure if the the conversations with the band have happened yet, but I know the promoter has given a thumbs up and the national act approached these promoters to throw the show. So if the numbes are right I would imagine at least an announcement would come before Jan.
thats all Ill say on the matter.
Musically 2005 was a banner year for the Breakfast. It is just from an attendance perspective no growth. there are a lot of explanations for that and many have been discussed on this very board but the near future is def. looking up
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I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
Good to hear.
Chill out and go write a new song.
But didn\'t Leith just say this:
I still love you guys and do not think your lack of progress is due to YOUR lack of trying.
Trying doesn\'t just happen on stage. I think the band is putting out some great new stuff. And just because Timmy P. has the official writing credit, it doesn\'t mean that Jordan, Ron, and Adrian don\'t have any part in its development. I don\'t want to get into a "you don\'t know what I know" thing, because I don\'t have any insider information either, but what the band is writing is something that nobody really knows in full.
Do I feel like, from my perspective, the band should be playing bigger shows? Yes. But I don\'t think ANY of us have the knowledge to really assess this, and I don\'t think comparing The Breakfast to a different band in a different market is at all valid.
We have the right to speak as fans, not friends, of the Breakfast. We have a right to voice our opinions. We have the privilege, not the right, to know any of the inner working of the band. Vic, Jordan, or whomever else within the organization has the right, but not the responsibility, to fill us in whenever they feel necessary. The same goes for Freddie, Dave, or anybody else who is particularly close to the band. We are more informed than any other fans that I know of, and we are very lucky for that. But this doesn\'t mean that we should be assuming that we know everything.
Sorry, this rant is a bit scattered. But I feel like my points are out there. This is my official stance until the end of Summer Tour/Fests 2006
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well put,kinger!!
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this thread is recockulous. leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread? what good do you expect to come of it?
(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year. sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)
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this thread is recockulous. leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread? what good do you expect to come of it?
(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year. sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)
pretty much
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What a thread to end Thanksgiving weekend with. I\'m just thankful to have the opportunity to get my mind blown via The Breakfast, Timmy Tour etc. for the last 5 years.
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this thread is recockulous. leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread? what good do you expect to come of it?
(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year. sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)
Well It is the end of the year. A time for reflection and discussion. The fact that another band I follow closely and who are @ the same level of development as The Breakfast skyrocketed past The Breakfast in terms of visibility this year was very surprising to me.
To hear that The Bfast is turning down good gigs pissed me off. I do everything I can to pimp them and they are turning down gigs in their homestate? I call Bullshit.
I am obssessed w/ The Bfast but think of ALL those fans that are not but just really like them. Do you really think a fanbase is going to be there if you are not playing? Come On!
All the posters that have been sooo upset w/ this subject see The Bfast all the time and have side gigs to go to. The rest of the nation does not. I have said this over and over yet this board still thinks the band is fine. It is not. They need to tour and hopefully once the winter is over they will. I am not going to count on it though.
I could have posted this in any number of formats but come on that is not my style you all should know that by now. I will continue to be the malcontent as long as I see no dates past the miss.river. You don\'t like it don\'t read it.
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i agree that things could be different, i just feel like this might not be the most productive place to channel that discontent energy.
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exactly!
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this thread is recockulous. leith, by no means do i mean to attack you and you have a right to say whatever you want, but what exactly is the point of this thread? what good do you expect to come of it?
(p.s. you forgot the breakfast\'s spread in relix earlier this year. sorry if someone else mentioned this, i only read the first and last pages, i assumed the middle looks the same...)
Well It is the end of the year. A time for reflection and discussion. The fact that another band I follow closely and who are @ the same level of development as The Breakfast skyrocketed past The Breakfast in terms of visibility this year was very surprising to me.
To hear that The Bfast is turning down good gigs pissed me off. I do everything I can to pimp them and they are turning down gigs in their homestate? I call Bullshit.
I am obssessed w/ The Bfast but think of ALL those fans that are not but just really like them. Do you really think a fanbase is going to be there if you are not playing? Come On!
All the posters that have been sooo upset w/ this subject see The Bfast all the time and have side gigs to go to. The rest of the nation does not. I have said this over and over yet this board still thinks the band is fine. It is not. They need to tour and hopefully once the winter is over they will. I am not going to count on it though.
I could have posted this in any number of formats but come on that is not my style you all should know that by now. I will continue to be the malcontent as long as I see no dates past the miss.river. You don\'t like it don\'t read it.
leith,you know nothing..
you a fan of the band.thats great.
we all are.
you dont know a thing about the behind the scenes shit that some of us do know about.no biggie.
all im saying,is one dude in california ranting and bitchin and moanin isnt gonna make anything any better.
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Fine.
Between songs @ EC and UAC I\'ll just yell out Hey when you comin\' to Cali. Hey why don\'t you guys tour. You\'re pretty good. Hey take this train out west. etc..
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Fine.
Between songs @ EC and UAC I\'ll just yell out Hey when you comin\' to Cali. Hey why don\'t you guys tour. You\'re pretty good. Hey take this train out west. etc..
i think id almost prefer that..
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everyone\'s being so stubborn and confrontational. leith, when you\'re over here, why dont you grab a band member and voice your concern to them, or send vic an email or something like that. i mean you\'ve posted enough on here (4151 times) to know how people react to these kinds of threads. it obviously does nothing to change the situation so my suggestion would be to get a little more creative in how you plan to do something about this. because complaining without any action is pointless. your travels out here show that you care a great deal about this band, i dont doubt your commmitment, but i think that this energy is misdirected towards a group that you know can be very overly sensitive and childlike, myself included.
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I dont post anymore because of my ties, but I think I may have a little insight to this extremely arduous thread. First things first, it Trey and TLG have the same booking agent, then more than anything TLG opening for Trey is a business move, not a "I think you guys are talented move." Anybody who thinks otherwise is very naive. Secondly, I would not expect any band to acheive great things when they lose their booking agent and struggle to find a new one. I think considering that, they did farely well with the shows they were able to get. As far as promotion, and media hype is conscerned, The Breakfast themselves have little to say about that. Any lack thereof can be chalked up to poor management, and if you think you can do a better job Leith, than why dont you apply for the job. Have guest sit ins or a spread in a magazine is up to the business men, not the musicians, cause that is the most important thing to remember about this whole thing. Music is a business, yeah we all love what we do, but money talks, and if you want the guys to come out west, get them a $2000 guarentee somewhere, and im sure it could be arranged. THink before you speak, cause alot of things you speak of is NOT the bands fault, nor do they have a ton of control over those things. IF you\'re really that unhappy, or you think you have the answers Bret and ALex\'s phone numbers are right at breakfast.net. GO Bitch at them not us
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This horseshit is stilling being discussed?
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opinions:
1. TLG is a pretty good band, but we all know where to go for face owning.
2. why won\'t anyone address the $$$$$$ behind tlg? if the breakfast had the means, they\'d be on tour. period.
3. Timmy tour has made Tim a better singer. if thats not good for the band, what is?
4. If the breakfast opened for trey, don\'t you think there would be huge guest appearances too? timmy would rip night speaks to a woman to shreds, and no one would have a bigger smile on his face than the red one himself. once oppurtunities like this arise, tB will be all over the place.
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dont forget to mention ya old boomerang
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EllisD and Sequoia on the same thread...cool brah.
I LOVED the \'05 musically. I LOVED the \'05 for the BFam. Timmy Tour Continues.
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Not to knock the side projects, but sometimes I think and feel that Timmy Tour has taken main priority for whatever reason.
Also, I think some of us have our heads so far up the breakfast\'s asses that we don\'t think so clearly. We tend to gravitate towards putting other band down, just to make us feel better about where the band is currently.
Do we all want to see them suceed? YES
If you all want to see this fucking band be successful. Promote them in every possible way. No jamband is going to get famous or known without touring and filling the house. This band has no finance behind them, they have to do it all themselves. So, next time you plan on going to a show, pass out 100 flyers, give out 20 cds. See the fucking difference it makes.
The problem is NOONE knows this band EXISTS.
Bottom line. So few of us are waiting for the day to come that they will be stars. Well, nothing is easy and if we all sit here and wait, well, we might as well sit on each others thumbs and enjoy the different perspective.
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yum..............
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even saw the lights of the goodyear blimp and it said \'Timmy P\'s a pimp.\'
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yum..............
At last.. a voice of reason!!!! Well said, Tim.
Now, children, can we stop this?
I have just trawled through the last 24 hours/7 pages worth and while some valid points have been made by the even smaller number of our regular posters, this is all getting a bit ridiculous - and all too familiar. Given that we are building in numbers and exposure here - and while we are at it, we should be congratulating dave for giving us this forum and maintaining it and the guys for continually pushing the boundaries in their shows (be it group or solo!!) - do we really want newbies experiencing the same sort of crap which went down over gray?
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i didnt even have to use my ak!!!
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I LOVED the \'05 musically. I LOVED the \'05 for the BFam.
A fans-specified goal of last spring included the band "bringing down the house" at Moe.down and 10,000 Lakes. I believe that goal was met or exceeded.
The recent midwest run seems like some serious progress over the year earlier venture to that region. I don\'t believe there were ever any people willing to travel across state lines to hit all the shows in that region, though a growing contingent of diehards is present and ready to multiply.
As Walsh stated, almost all of the shows this year kicked some serious booty.
I would really like to see the band make it out here, for the same selfish reasons as Leith and also specifically because California in isolation is the 6th largest economy in the world and should be exploited when the opportunity presents itself.
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The problem is NOONE knows this band EXISTS.
Not true - I always enclose a breakfast show with every trade I do - got some to finish off for Malta, Spain and Germany this week. Yeah, am singlehandedly trying to build the Euro-Breakfast Crew!! :)
To be serious, I think we all try to do our bit to break the band, be it flyering, freebies etc. It will happen - the guys have too much talent for it not to.
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The problem is NOONE knows this band EXISTS.
Not true - I always enclose a breakfast show with every trade I do - got some to finish off for Malta, Spain and Germany this week. Yeah, am singlehandedly trying to build the Euro-Breakfast Crew!! :)
To be serious, I think we all try to do our bit to break the band, be it flyering, freebies etc. It will happen - the guys have too much talent for it not to.
and im sure everyone appreciates the work you do on the other side....
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and since he\'s posted in this thread, let\'s not forget the addition of greg ellis to the band this year.. even if the band hasn\'t met all your expectations in 2005, i believe that\'s a pretty major accomplishment..
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After the debacle of my last thread many may think I\'m an ass.
That\'s cool.
I thought this board was here to discuss all things Breakfast.
Good AND Bad
I know I have posted alot about other bands lately(moe. and TLG mainly). This is because I am able to SEE these bands and am excited @ over how far they are both coming along.
The Breakfast is still my favorite band. As a matter of fact when asked why I was flying back east for nxt month I said verbatim" I\'m going to see the best damn band on the planet". A couple of days later the same friend out of the blue said" I can\'t believe you said that about Psychedelic Breakfast". I could only shrug and smile.
The point of that was my friend goes to festies all the time and is into a bunch of bands. For him to still be thinking of The Breakfast as PB is not good. It is something I find alot. Many people out here have NO IDEA how far the band has come since the last time they owned faces out here or even that they changed names.
So when I realize how much promise this year held and how in my opinion so little was accomplished, I got upset. Where am I going to go to voice this? Well to .info where MAYBE someone will understand. I mean where else can a Bfast fan go?
I know alot of folk on here a very protective of The Bfast as they are friends with them. Being in the middle of the storm they get constant doses of The Bfast and Solo Projects. Merely commenting that the band needs to tour elicits little response now. Even the fact that a prime gig was turned down is practically ignored by these fans as all is calm in the eye of a storm.
I made the mistake of comparing another band close to The Bfast\'s level of touring to drive home a point that I thought many were blase\' about.
MY BAD.
Won\'t happen again. Maybe
So I\'ll see all you 10 days. We can discuss ANY of this face to face if ya want.
Peace
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The problem is NOONE knows this band EXISTS.
Not true - I always enclose a breakfast show with every trade I do - got some to finish off for Malta, Spain and Germany this week. Yeah, am singlehandedly trying to build the Euro-Breakfast Crew!! :)
To be serious, I think we all try to do our bit to break the band, be it flyering, freebies etc. It will happen - the guys have too much talent for it not to.
Much appreciation for what you do.
And, yes, I still believe 2006 will be the best year for the band. They have a super soundman and a great lightman. The six of them put on a great show. The band and management need to do whatever they can do to put the name on a few more peoples tongues. I\'m sure they will.
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and since he\'s posted in this thread, let\'s not forget the addition of greg ellis to the band this year.. even if the band hasn\'t met all your expectations in 2005, i believe that\'s a pretty major accomplishment..
Yeah I was going to add that they added a lighting show to the band but did not see that as an accomplishment but more of them finally filling a need.
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and since he\'s posted in this thread, let\'s not forget the addition of greg ellis to the band this year.. even if the band hasn\'t met all your expectations in 2005, i believe that\'s a pretty major accomplishment..
Yeah I was going to add that they added a lighting show to the band but did not see that as an accomplishment but more of them finally filling a need.
(http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/3268/timmmygivinthebird900x12604sc.jpg)
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waits for the merge mutherfucker.....
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and im sure everyone appreciates the work you do on the other side....
:rip: :inky:
;)
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I can\'t believe nobody\'s busted this out yet, cause man does this thread deserve it:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
TLG Breakfast TLG Breakfast blah blah blah. The response level is ironic given that about 3 people on this board would care if TLG played their last show today.
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As a matter of fact when asked why I was flying back east for nxt month I said verbatim" I\'m going to see the best damn band on the planet ...SCC."
fixed ;)
So I\'ll see all you 10 days. We can discuss ANY of this face to face if ya want.
Can\'t wait to see u again, brah. It\'s been a few months, you crazy serhead.
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leith any chance of a little lucy in the sky this time around ??
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and since he\'s posted in this thread, let\'s not forget the addition of greg ellis to the band this year.. even if the band hasn\'t met all your expectations in 2005, i believe that\'s a pretty major accomplishment..
Yeah I was going to add that they added a lighting show to the band but did not see that as an accomplishment but more of them finally filling a need.
(http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/3268/timmmygivinthebird900x12604sc.jpg)
reminds me of that Johnny Cash photo where he\'s flippin the bird, great shot!
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I can\'t believe nobody\'s busted this out yet, cause man does this thread deserve it:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
:violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin: :violin:
TLG Breakfast TLG Breakfast blah blah blah. The response level is ironic given that about 3 people on this board would care if TLG played their last show today.
rotfl
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wasn\'t new monsoon one of the bands that pb beat out for new groove of the year? am i mistaken about that?
i don\'t have time to read the rest of this thread right now, so i don\'t know if your question was answered. but just to respond, new monsoon was beat out by the duo this past year for new groove. bfast won the year before. (if i remember correctly....)
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As a matter of fact when asked why I was flying back east for nxt month I said verbatim" I\'m going to see the best damn band on the planet ...SCC."
fixed ;)
So I\'ll see all you 10 days. We can discuss ANY of this face to face if ya want.
Can\'t wait to see u again, brah. It\'s been a few months, you crazy serhead.
Classic right there.
Yeah, me too. I am getting real excited for my trip.
leith any chance of a little lucy in the sky this time around ??
hmmmm that could be fun. I\'l check and see if she\'s in.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
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end of thread.
thanks vic.
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i agree
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nicely put steffens.....
10-1 odds it dosent shut him the fuck up though,whatsoever...
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Are you kidding?! These threads are what is great about this board. People showing some real passion about this band and having agruments about the choices they have made. Regardless of the fact that we have no input into band decisions, these kinds of discussions generate traffic on the board.
I like the fact that Leith is posting that he thinks the band made some poor choices this year and that it may have taken some wind outta their sails. I may not agree with how he stated it, or how he chooses to argue his point with others. But it kept me coming back to this site... a hell of a lot more than Wah\'s bowling for butt cracks thread.
I say, keep the conversation going.
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Actually the point of the thread is just a ventilation of frustration that has been building over the past year as I saw my favorite band basically go nowhere in what was to be The Year of The Breakfast
leith, you said 2004 was the year of the breakfast.
no, wait... freddie said 2005 was.
klout thinks so too.
kloutfirmed.
now i\'m confused... what\'s 2006 gonna be?
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i honestly think it really was a really good year for the band.
killin it at moedown alone made for a ser year.
comparing them to another band,who,perhaps,had a little bit of a better year=dosent help
i honestly say,in 2006 i hope they go back to this........
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4533/pbnewpromo3005yi.jpg)
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
I would think someone who has as much time in the music business as you have stated would have thicker skin and perhaps choose their words more wisely when addressing a fan
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I agree Freddie. Plus, all we know about TLG is that surface crap that Leith is pumping. For all we know, that band could have discovered an unquenchable appetite for Methamphetamines this years that is going to lead them directly to the grave yard. By \'07 people will be like "oh, yeah. Tea Leaf Green. Didn\'t that zombie, Bob Weir, sit in with them once ?"
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We have the right to speak as fans, not friends, of the Breakfast. We have a right to voice our opinions. We have the privilege, not the right, to know any of the inner working of the band. Vic, Jordan, or whomever else within the organization has the right, but not the responsibility, to fill us in whenever they feel necessary. The same goes for Freddie, Dave, or anybody else who is particularly close to the band. We are more informed than any other fans that I know of, and we are very lucky for that. But this doesn\'t mean that we should be assuming that we know everything.
When is the last time that there was a Breakfast-related thread hopping like this during an 11-day (which will be a 13-day) span without a Breakfast show? This is what fan sites do. We have the right to act like fans. We need to still remember that we don\'t know everything that is going on within The Breakfast, and we need to keep in mind what people like Ellis, Vic, and Jordan have said, but this discussion should continue to preserve the sanctity of a fan forum.
And to restate my personal feelings, I have no worries until after Summer Tour/Festival Circuit 2006.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
I would think someone who has as much time in the music business as you have stated would have thicker skin and perhaps choose their words more wisely when addressing a fan
sitting around and reading some shit,putting down your hard work would probably upset you too.
its be like me saying that all year long,mike dearys recordings of shows sucked balls.
youd be upset too.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
leith,you are a clueless dude,and its sad.
you will be ignored like your not even here by me when you get here.
it could always be worse.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
this here kids, is called someone taking shit W A Y over the line.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
yo settle down, he has just as much a right as you do to say what he wants.
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
this here kids, is called someone taking shit W A Y over the line.
per usual,i might add..
although,when he comes to town hell perceive himself as being the nicest dude since sliced bread.
thatas what i dont get/like.
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yo settle down, he has just as much a right as you do to say what he wants.
Yeah you\'re right. It is just that he tells me I have no clue and then in the SAME post VALIDATES my fears and the whole reason for this mess I started.
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walshy mahoney to leith,after the puppethouse show,at hotel tka-
"hey leith,what did you forget your internet balls in your carry-on"?
sooooo true,i might add..
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
this here kids, is called someone taking shit W A Y over the line.
per usual,i might add..
although,when he comes to town hell perceive himself as being the nicest dude since sliced bread.
thatas what i dont get/like.
What nice guys can not have opinions or care about the band. Oh and your net persona is EXACTLY how you are in real life. Give me a break you damn hypocrite!
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
this here kids, is called someone taking shit W A Y over the line.
per usual,i might add..
although,when he comes to town hell perceive himself as being the nicest dude since sliced bread.
thatas what i dont get/like.
What nice guys can not have opinions or care about the band. Oh and your net persona is EXACTLY how you are in real life. Give me a break you damn hypocrite!
id honestly have to say thats its pretty damn close..
you just go about things all wrong..
thats it,.
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
ILL POST ABOUT WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT,WHENEVER THE FUCK I WANT!!!
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN AMERICAN!!!!
I PAY MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
IM A MEMBER OF THIS INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE AND ILL POST WHATEVER I DAMN WELL FANCY!!!
IF YO UDONT LIKE IT,DONT READ IT,FUCKTARD!!!!!!!!
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
Why is thread still up. Obviously there are people who agree w/ me and MANY more that are just bashing me. The thread has gone to far for ANYONE to bother reading in full so all they are going to see is this BS now. PLS for the sake of sanity KILL THIS THREAD DAVE or COBB!
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
Why is thread still up. Obviously there are people who agree w/ me and MANY more that are just bashing me. The thread has gone to far for ANYONE to bother reading in full so all they are going to see is this BS now. PLS for the sake of sanity KILL THIS THREAD DAVE or COBB!
SO SAD REALLY.....
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
ILL POST ABOUT WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT,WHENEVER THE FUCK I WANT!!!
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN AMERICAN!!!!
I PAY MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
IM A MEMBER OF THIS INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE AND ILL POST WHATEVER I DAMN WELL FANCY!!!
IF YO UDONT LIKE IT,DONT READ IT,FUCKTARD!!!!!!!!
HA! That\'s awesome! I might have to make that my signature.
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well,im out of this debate(arguement)anyways.
dont close it.
let folks voice their opinions,cobbie.
ive said my part,and i bring nothing else to the table..
carryon.
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Obviously there are people who agree w/ me and MANY more that are just bashing me.
What about the people who are disagreeing WITHOUT bashing you? Granted most of that is about 8 pages old, but there is still something substantial and worthwhile in this thread. The First Amendment lives on thebreakfast.info!
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Obviously there are people who agree w/ me and MANY more that are just bashing me.
What about the people who are disagreeing WITHOUT bashing you? Granted most of that is about 8 pages old, but there is still something substantial and worthwhile in this thread. The First Amendment lives on thebreakfast.info!
But who is gonna bother to read through all the bs to get to your wonderfully worded post?
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Summary:
leith makes a year in review contrasting the Breakfasts year vs. Tea leaf Green
basically 2 bands of similar fanbase etc.
Shows that TLG was able to grow and have sit ins by well known musicians
wonders aloud why the Breakfast haven\'t had similar successes
Some disagree
Some Agree
Some bash
Hilarity ensues.
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
ILL POST ABOUT WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT,WHENEVER THE FUCK I WANT!!!
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN AMERICAN!!!!
I PAY MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
IM A MEMBER OF THIS INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE AND ILL POST WHATEVER I DAMN WELL FANCY!!!
IF YO UDONT LIKE IT,DONT READ IT,FUCKTARD!!!!!!!!
"walter, this isn\'t a first amendment thing, man..."
i may be being presumptuous here, but i THINK that one of the things dave would like me to moderate is when there are personal attacks going on. that is what is going on here, and i\'m asking you guys to "get a room" so to speak. i\'m not telling you not to say what\'s on your mind, i\'m asking you to find an appropriate way to do so, and this thread isn\'t one.
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1) I don\'t own a suit.....
2) I don\'t go that way.
3) Dude, I appreciate you can be frustrated. I get frustrated as well. Plus, I have invested a lot of time and money in this so my frustration is a lot more real that yours. Your entire issue seems to be "when can I see the band on the west coast". To which the asnwer is, "As soon as we can arrange a routing that doens\'t put the band back in the financial dumpster".
I, the manager, and the band are to some extent on the same team. I have supported these guys for years, and expect to continue to do so. Some people in the past have given up on this band and walked away. At one point this year we were told "The band is too small for out agency". We could have dropped it. I\'ve put m time, talent, and money on the line for this band time and time again.
And you have done....what exactly???
As I said before...I dig your passion, and I really don\'t even mind you personally. But you aren\'t helping. This kind of behavior only scares people people away from getting involved with the band. They read this stuff to.
Carry On.
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I really don\'t even mind you personally.
rotfl
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
I would think someone who has as much time in the music business as you have stated would have thicker skin and perhaps choose their words more wisely when addressing a fan
sitting around and reading some shit,putting down your hard work would probably upset you too.
its be like me saying that all year long,mike dearys recordings of shows sucked balls.
youd be upset too.
Yeah, but with Mike it would be a lie.
Remember that most of us do not know exactly what Steffmo does for the band. No part of this discussion should be seen as a personal attack.
So explain to me how discussing this does not help. This type of topic has generated a lot of fan interest and support in the past. I know that it is not a lot of fun for everyone to point at the elephant in the living room but sometimes it has to be done.
I am interested in the comment that this time last year the band was thinking of quitting. I expect no answer but I wonder what the reasons were. Do different band members have drastically different aspirations for the band?
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I\'m not going to waste a lot of time here, because this is one ignorant thread. Lieth, i appreciate your passion, but shut the fuck up. You have no clue.
This time last year we were having discussions as to whether the band was even going to continue, the difficulties were so deep. This year we look forward to a great festival season and stepping the band up. Perhaps even the next record. People have worked really had to keep the wheels on this thing and we plan to continue.
You, however, are definitely NOT helping.
Hey Steffmo. Are you the producer or the manager?
If you ARE the Manager GET TO FUCKING WORK AND GET THEM OUT HERE!
If you are a producer of their albums and NOT a MANAGER Blow Me!
The mere fact that you mention the band having to decide if they were going to continue, ONLY VALIDATES MY FEELINGS THAT THIS BAND MAY NOT MAKE IT!
IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT SO WHY IS IT SO BAD FOR ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS?
TELL ME!
I can say whatever the hell I want to get my point and feelings across. I sure as hell am not going to listen to a suit tell me I have no clue!
I think Leith is offically becoming the first person on my ignore list...... :pissed:
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what the hell is an elephant doing in the living room?
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i think the point here is that this thread should be a "what can i do to help" thread rather than a "bitch and moan about what isnt getting done" thread.
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1) I don\'t own a suit.....
2) I don\'t go that way.
3) Dude, I appreciate you can be frustrated. I get frustrated as well. Plus, I have invested a lot of time and money in this so my frustration is a lot more real that yours. Your entire issue seems to be "when can I see the band on the west coast". To which the asnwer is, "As soon as we can arrange a routing that doens\'t put the band back in the financial dumpster".
I, the manager, and the band are to some extent on the same team. I have supported these guys for years, and expect to continue to do so. Some people in the past have given up on this band and walked away. At one point this year we were told "The band is too small for out agency". We could have dropped it. I\'ve put m time, talent, and money on the line for this band time and time again.
And you have done....what exactly???
As I said before...I dig your passion, and I really don\'t even mind you personally. But you aren\'t helping. This kind of behavior only scares people people away from getting involved with the band. They read this stuff to.
Carry On.
Actually my gripe IS a lot larger now. I realize completely that a visit out West is costly. My main concern which I realize may seem weird to some was the decrease in The Breakfast\'s visibility this year in my opinion.
I KNOW you do alot for the band and believe me from what i hear and read w/o you this band would be a memory.
I do not understand how on a fansite one person voicing concern over the band\'s growth is so bad? If anything it shows this band can elicit such concern and devotion. Esp. seeing as this person is 3000 miles away and still shows this type of lunacy.
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I don\'t have a problem with anyone "voicing concern" about anything. I voice concerns everyday....that\'s how we define problems we have to solve.
But when concern becomes finger pointing or comparing of what happened here verses there, I have to draw the line.
We fight our battles for the band everyday, and it isn\'t easy. Nor does it pay that well. Still, we all believe very deeply that this band could not only be successful, but perhaps set a trend that might bring music back to something we might actually listen to. Considering the fact that one day we woke up to find we had no agent the year was a great success. I think that our energy is much better spent trying to build upon 2005\'s high points rather than back bite over what is water over the dam.
As far as TLG, every bands situation is different. They have some resources that we don\'t, but if they weren\'t bringing some level of satisfaction to their fans, they wouldn\'t be on the map. Give some credit where credit is due.
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now i\'m confused... what\'s 2006 gonna be?
oddly enough, the year of the harmonizing midget clowns. go figure...
while i agree with leith\'s frustrations (as i, too, would like more shows i don\'t have to travel multiple states for) what i was noticing the other day, was this~ go back to the archive and listen to one of the january or february shows, then listen to, say, 11/17 stone church. while they may not have toured much or brought in a huge new fan base, their playing has leapt exponentially. the sheer power of what they are doing is most noticable. the size and depth of the songs wasn\'t nearly as full even 11 months ago. what they\'ve learned over this year has been irreplaceable.
now, do they need to get on the road? obviously. they need to go melt those faces in the midwest, then get back to them while the memory is still strong, as opposed to making them wait 9 or 10 months in-between shows. they need to continue to shore up their ne base, but honestly the uncharted regions are where they need to focus. and this is nothing that the band doesn\'t know.
after the puppethouse, tim looked at jill and i and asked, humbly, "what more do we need to do?" at the time, i think i suggested traveling pole dancers, but they know what they need to do. tour. a bunch. get out on the road for a year/year and a half coming home only to recharge the batteries and get clean socks. but let me ask you this~ Would you be willing to quit your job, leave your significant other for months in a row, just to play music to 15 people every night? 15 people who don\'t provide enough money to pay for full meals, full gas tanks and new strings???
the problem is that their ability level far outreaches their drawing level. cause those 15 people will be destroyed, if in fact they like an aural pummeling with a lot of changes in songs they don\'t know. certainly some will, but you\'ve seen how the crowd falls off at setbreak at local shows, so what about the tuesday night gig in east tuscaloosa where 6 people show up, but 4 of them have to leave early?? that\'s a daunting prospect, to be sure.
so what do you do about it? well, i\'d say they\'ve made some good choices and some not as good. start playing fests. they were well recieved at the few they played this year, which should increase the number they play next. personally, i\'d try to tour from fest to fest, playing weekday gigs at whatever college towns are along the way. but that\'s just me. those fests gave them some word of mouth. a poor decision (that they didn\'t have much control over, as they were still looking for/settling on a booking agency) was not to take that moe.down/10k lakes buzz higher with a non-stop fall/early winter tour. i like that they went out and played those midwest dates, showed that there are still folks interested at what they heard at 10k, but if they\'re gonna go out, more than 4 gigs should be attempted. but hey, how do we know that those gigs weren\'t introductions of the band (and its style & drawing power) to club owners in the midwest? now that they\'ve done fairly decently they can be booked with more confidence next year. especially since most places have the rest of this year already booked.
in an ultimatum mentality, jordan needs to quit his job, ron needs to ignore his wife and timmy and ad need to learn automechanics and theft prevention real quick. then go on the road until the world is sufficiently dominated. but even in this fantasy, there\'s no mention of how they are to afford said road trip. and that\'s what it all comes down to - money. there is the plan to start with concentric circles starting at your base and gradually expanding your playing area, there\'s the thought that you just go out and hit the road, there\'s the idea of sporadic, quick runs to specific venues. whichever one th band goes with will most likely be the one that enables them to get from one gig to the next. so, aside from one of us winning the lottery and bank rolling the entire band, the decisions that he band is making in the real world are a hell of a lot more difficult and diffuse than us sitting around hypothesizing about what they "need" to be, or not be, doing. its very easy to say \'get thee on the road, men\', but just try imagining what it would take for you, alone, to do a five week road trip on a musician\'s budget, then add in five more guys and equipment. now imagine you have to perform at the breakfast\'s level most of those nights, after driving for 8 or 10 hours on an empty tank. gets kinda daunting and complicated, don\'t it?!
I will continue to support them by sending out freebies and talking them up. i will continue to make every attempt to see them and buy some merch every time. (unless they\'re playing the webster, but that\'s another bitch-thread ;) ) and i will continue to support them however i can. but its far beyond me to know every intricacy involved in these men\'s lives and try to dictate their band\'s future plans. that\'s up to them.
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i <3 jking!
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:that:
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I don\'t have a problem with anyone "voicing concern" about anything. I voice concerns everyday....that\'s how we define problems we have to solve.
But when concern becomes finger pointing or comparing of what happened here verses there, I have to draw the line.
We fight our battles for the band everyday, and it isn\'t easy. Nor does it pay that well. Still, we all believe very deeply that this band could not only be successful, but perhaps set a trend that might bring music back to something we might actually listen to. Considering the fact that one day we woke up to find we had no agent the year was a great success. I think that our energy is much better spent trying to build upon 2005\'s high points rather than back bite over what is water over the dam.
As far as TLG, every bands situation is different. They have some resources that we don\'t, but if they weren\'t bringing some level of satisfaction to their fans, they wouldn\'t be on the map. Give some credit where credit is due.
Yeah. As I did post somewhere in here,comparing them to TLG was a mistake. I thought people would understand how I was thinking if they saw a concrete list. I was wrong.
and I know the satisfaction TLG brings to their fans,main reason I got jacked up in this thread. I happen to enjoy BOTH bands.
Again thank you for your work and time AND more over your Patience.
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now i\'m confused... what\'s 2006 gonna be?
oddly enough, the year of the harmonizing midget clowns. go figure...
while i agree with leith\'s frustrations (as i, too, would like more shows i don\'t have to travel multiple states for) what i was noticing the other day, was this~ go back to the archive and listen to one of the january or february shows, then listen to, say, 11/17 stone church. while they may not have toured much or brought in a huge new fan base, their playing has leapt exponentially. the sheer power of what they are doing is most noticable. the size and depth of the songs wasn\'t nearly as full even 11 months ago. what they\'ve learned over this year has been irreplaceable.
now, do they need to get on the road? obviously. they need to go melt those faces in the midwest, then get back to them while the memory is still strong, as opposed to making them wait 9 or 10 months in-between shows. they need to continue to shore up their ne base, but honestly the uncharted regions are where they need to focus. and this is nothing that the band doesn\'t know.
after the puppethouse, tim looked at jill and i and asked, humbly, "what more do we need to do?" at the time, i think i suggested traveling pole dancers, but they know what they need to do. tour. a bunch. get out on the road for a year/year and a half coming home only to recharge the batteries and get clean socks. but let me ask you this~ Would you be willing to quit your job, leave your significant other for months in a row, just to play music to 15 people every night? 15 people who don\'t provide enough money to pay for full meals, full gas tanks and new strings???
the problem is that their ability level far outreaches their drawing level. cause those 15 people will be destroyed, if in fact they like an aural pummeling with a lot of changes in songs they don\'t know. certainly some will, but you\'ve seen how the crowd falls off at setbreak at local shows, so what about the tuesday night gig in east tuscaloosa where 6 people show up, but 4 of them have to leave early?? that\'s a daunting prospect, to be sure.
so what do you do about it? well, i\'d say they\'ve made some good choices and some not as good. start playing fests. they were well recieved at the few they played this year, which should increase the number they play next. personally, i\'d try to tour from fest to fest, playing weekday gigs at whatever college towns are along the way. but that\'s just me. those fests gave them some word of mouth. a poor decision (that they didn\'t have much control over, as they were still looking for/settling on a booking agency) was not to take that moe.down/10k lakes buzz higher with a non-stop fall/early winter tour. i like that they went out and played those midwest dates, showed that there are still folks interested at what they heard at 10k, but if they\'re gonna go out, more than 4 gigs should be attempted. but hey, how do we know that those gigs weren\'t introductions of the band (and its style & drawing power) to club owners in the midwest? now that they\'ve done fairly decently they can be booked with more confidence next year. especially since most places have the rest of this year already booked.
in an ultimatum mentality, jordan needs to quit his job, ron needs to ignore his wife and timmy and ad need to learn automechanics and theft prevention real quick. then go on the road until the world is sufficiently dominated. but even in this fantasy, there\'s no mention of how they are to afford said road trip. and that\'s what it all comes down to - money. there is the plan to start with concentric circles starting at your base and gradually expanding your playing area, there\'s the thought that you just go out and hit the road, there\'s the idea of sporadic, quick runs to specific venues. whichever one th band goes with will most likely be the one that enables them to get from one gig to the next. so, aside from one of us winning the lottery and bank rolling the entire band, the decisions that he band is making in the real world are a hell of a lot more difficult and diffuse than us sitting around hypothesizing about what they "need" to be, or not be, doing. its very easy to say \'get thee on the road, men\', but just try imagining what it would take for you, alone, to do a five week road trip on a musician\'s budget, then add in five more guys and equipment. now imagine you have to perform at the breakfast\'s level most of those nights, after driving for 8 or 10 hours on an empty tank. gets kinda daunting and complicated, don\'t it?!
I will continue to support them by sending out freebies and talking them up. i will continue to make every attempt to see them and buy some merch every time. (unless they\'re playing the webster, but that\'s another bitch-thread ;) ) and i will continue to support them however i can. but its far beyond me to know every intricacy involved in these men\'s lives and try to dictate their band\'s future plans. that\'s up to them.
Very well thought out and articulate. The only problem I have with this is it doesn\'t show any NUTS!!! Hell long road trips, humping EQ, change in your pockets and all that jazz is ROCK AND ROLL!!!!
If the band isn\'t going to take risks then why should anyone else ? Im not bashing or anything else but if the mentality is to play it safe and not take risks then whats the point. The women in their lives married musicians so they should have known what they were getting in to in the first place. No 1 got famous / rich by playing it safe.
all of the things you described above is the perils of being a working musician.
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jking....... nail.....head! Damn brotha preach on, Can I get an A-MEN?!
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(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zFDUnq7T-fcJ:images.animanga.nu/fanart/1964/amen.jpg)
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you guys are crazy and arguing in circles
Timmy P is the man on the guitar, and soon enough everyone will know, Adrian is the man on the drums, and soon enough everyone will know.......Ronny and Jordan rock too........ Ellis is a superb button pusher....... Teaming up with New Monsoon will be GREAT!!!!! dont worry about who is opening for who......
and who ever mentioned todd stoops and raq........... I liked all the guys in Raq when they had their old keyboardist...... and I\'d go see them..... Now I refuse because Todd Stoops was such a dickface too me, his head is way up his ass................ he is a sick keyboardist though, oh yeah and there is NO SER FACE OWNAGE
sorry off topic
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stoops=da man
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stoops might be an excellent musician, but he is a major toolbag who thinks his shit don\'t stink nonetheless.
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i also love lian gallagher.
its all about the rock and roll tude brah..
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Grateful Dead Make Me Happy!
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I am not even going to bother reading this thread.....
like every individual on this planet, every band has its own path/journey that it is on....
Comparing any 2 is alright, but it is an exercise in futility as anything can happen at anytime to any one/group to change its course for good or bad.....
If this was a Tea Leaf Green board, I would care to read about all the great things that TLG has accomplished this year or has in the works for the future... But since it is not, I wish TLG the best of luck in all their future endeavors.
And now to address the the greatest accomplisment of the year for this band we all love called the Breakfast..........THEY ARE STILL A FUCKING SER ROCK AND ROLL BAND BAND WITH ITS ORIGINAL MEMBERS ALL WHOM ARE ENJOYING THE RIDE AND LOVE PLAYING MUSIC WITH EACHOTHER.....AFTER 7 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that is not an accomplishment after all this group has been through....I dont know what is...
"All Good Things In All Good Time"
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i <3 jking!
me too!! :hump:
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN Italian!!!!
My wife PAYs MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
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Joined onstage by Sean Miller and Jeremy Wall @ different shows.
I heard this guy Sean Miller is pretty good! The Jedi has a pretty strong fanbase not only in South Central CT, but NYC and Greater Boston. granted it may not be nationwide, but I guess we all can\'t be David Grisman...
I can think of at least a few people who would agree with me!
El Capitan
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way to tell em jedi
guaranteed that bweir had no clue who he just played with after it was all said and done..
guaranteed
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN Italian!!!!
My wife PAYs MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
Does the air in Cali make balls grow to the size of elephants??? Just curious, because I was thinking of maybe heading west in another 10-15 years. If that\'s the case, I\'ll stay in CT.
Oh, and I <3 JKing too!! (Not like that, you wise ass!!;))
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okay guys, this thread is not about wah vs. leith, take that up in PM form if you want to. stay on topic or this thread is gettin waxed.
IM A GODDAMN FUCKING GODDAMN Italian!!!!
My wife PAYs MY FUCKING GODFORSAKEN TAXES!!!!
Does the air in Cali make balls grow to the size of elephants??? Just curious, because I was thinking of maybe heading west in another 10-15 years. If that\'s the case, I\'ll stay in CT.
Don\'t remember them ever shrinking on a trek to CT, you must be confusing me with a loud mouth beach bum from San Diego.
;)
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lets bump it..
the board needs to talk/argue a little today
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so I started a band today in work and we have yet to become famous. what should I do?
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having a real shitty day at work today.
btw, this thread sucks, i wish someone would delete it. i don\'t like tlg either.
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ahh, never mind, we are famous now
:quits job, becomes a star:
eat this across the nation, biatches
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so I started a band today in work and we have yet to become famous. what should I do?
you gotta start off with a catchy name, like: biodiesel\'s for pussies or crinkled brown star.
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Howwa bout JRBC or Juicy Roast Beef Curtains
or ASS-ID
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how about
spacey and the whale vaginas
or
freaky deaky old bitches
or
THE JUICY CHOPS?
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Whiskey Dick and the Blue Balls is still up for grabs considering this gay "New Boomers" thing stuck...it\'s yours guy.
Jedi\'s sit-in on "Ramble on Rose" @ the Webster=some of the hettiest shite the Breakfast played this year...almost brought a tear to my eye. Bobby screaming "Cha" over and over during "Mooboo\'s" would get annoying;)
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Whiskey Dick and the Blue Balls is still up for grabs considering this gay "New Boomers" thing stuck...it\'s yours guy.
make the right decision people :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: (starts with whiskey and ends with balls)
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Bobby screaming "Cha" over and over during "Mooboo\'s" would get annoying;)
LMFAO. Now THAT is comedy right there folks!
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Damn this was a fugginn\' great show. That Buquebus RULED until the PH that is.
May 7th, 2005 - Webster Theatre; Hartford, CT
I: May Fly Disarray, Garcian Fishbowl > See The Light*, Fresh Cut** > Garcian Fishbowl,
What The Funk^, jam^^ > No Regret, Ramble On Rose#@, Drunk Monk Bar
II: jam > Sleeping Beauty, Hard Luck Harry > No Glove No Love, Born To Be Wild > Drum Solo,
Buquebus
E: Sympathy For The Devil#@@
* inverted.
** with \'The Andy Griffith Show Theme\' teases.
^ with drum intro.
^^ Tim & Adrian \'trading licks\'.
@ Grateful Dead cover; first time played.
@@ Rolling Stones cover; first time played.
# with Sean Miller on mandolin and vocals.
(starts with whiskey and ends with balls)
Holly if that is your motto, do you want to hang out more;)
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huh???????
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wait.who?
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Zoinks!!!
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hey walsh, any chance i could get a copy of that from you? we were there but i never managed to pull it due to how bad i thought it sounded that night. i\'d like to give it a second chance.
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I am not 100 % sure if I will be able to find it, due to the fact that I listen to music when i get home from going out and have no idea where the discs end up(for those that know me this will be understandable;)) But I will check.
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i got it but will not trade it to anyone..
end of story..
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so I started a band today in work and we have yet to become famous. what should I do?
you gotta start off with a catchy name, like: biodiesel\'s for pussies or crinkled brown star.
Leftover Chinese
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so I started a band today in work and we have yet to become famous. what should I do?
you gotta start off with a catchy name, like: biodiesel\'s for pussies or crinkled brown star.
Leftover Chinese
Soiled Pantaloons
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...a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does...
Hi there Igziabeher and the rest of the Breakfast community! This is my first post here (actually I was going to stop by to post a quick thanks to the boys for having Michetti and I up the other night... until I noticed this...)
I apologize if I have ever come across as if I had a giant cock up my ass!! Perhaps when we met/spoke etc I was having a bad day... That happens sometimes :)
The Breakfast are an amazing group of people, band and crew included. Not only do I consider them 4 of the best musicians playing today, I also consider them to be good friends.
That said - Keep on Rockin\' and have a safe and happy holiday!
~Todd Stoops
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...a band that cares about their fanbase and doesn\'t act like they have a giant cock up their ass now that they\'ve gained some attention a la Todd Stoops does...
Hi there Igziabeher and the rest of the Breakfast community! This is my first post here (actually I was going to stop by to post a quick thanks to the boys for having Michetti and I up the other night... until I noticed this...)
I apologize if I have ever come across as if I had a giant cock up my ass!! Perhaps when we met/spoke etc I was having a bad day... That happens sometimes :)
The Breakfast are an amazing group of people, band and crew included. Not only do I consider them 4 of the best musicians playing today, I also consider them to be good friends.
That said - Keep on Rockin\' and have a safe and happy holiday!
~Todd Stoops
I just got owned!!!!!!!!
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Thanx for comin\' by. I have registered on the RAQ fan site hyperfunkalicious, due to the sit in up in Vt. Hope to hear more shows w/ RAQ involved. I think it would be good for both bands.
You were nice to me in San Diego last year when I said hi. So thanx, and come out west again.
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I\'m speechless.
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I\'m speechless.
yeah but you can still type.
Pretty neat this whole internet thing huh?
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:lol: rotfl :lol:
too funny......imagine if everyone that talked shit about musicians and actors and whatnot got called out like that on internet boards.....:lol:
stoops: i think we all appreciate you and chris sitting in with the boys, and i hope this won\'t deter you from doing so in the future
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wow
:in the best Nelson Muntz voice, points to Igzy, HAHA:
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i guess i should apologize. it is only right. todd stoops has never done anything negative to me, and what i said was fairly harsh and said in the heat of this discussion. he\'s a super talented musician, in a very good band(not as good as the breakfast, but you get the idea). if i really had something against him, i\'d stand my ground and say it, but it ain\'t so, so i won\'t bother.
its like in Jay and Silent Bob Strikes back when he hops online and types out that whole \'You are the ones who are the ball lickers....\' rant. I think its friggen hilarious, I hope I didn\'t hurt his feelings though. I just feel bad that he had to read through that entire thread. That must\'ve been torture. Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
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:lol: rotfl :lol:
too funny......imagine if everyone that talked shit about musicians and actors and whatnot got called out like that on internet boards.....:lol:
On deck: Trey joins .info and silences the perpetual critics.
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he may have just used the \'search\' feature, which i\'ve noticed many people don\'t use before they go to write a new thread on something that has been previously discussed
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Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
might have been \'sequia\'.. let\'s face it, you\'re pissing off keyboard players left and right, and they\'re banding together and fighting back! :D
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Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
might have been \'sequia\'.. let\'s face it, you\'re pissing off keyboard players left and right, and they\'re banding together and fighting back! :D
davepeck does make a valid point here.
watch your back at shows.
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Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
might have been \'sequia\'.. let\'s face it, you\'re pissing off keyboard players left and right, and they\'re banding together and fighting back! :D
what can i say, i dig bassists. keys were always the fruitiest of the four instruments;)
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Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
might have been \'sequia\'.. let\'s face it, you\'re pissing off keyboard players left and right
When did he take over the reigns of that job from Joe? ;)
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Unless someone tipped him off and he went directly to that post, but I doubt anyone is that out to get me.
might have been \'sequia\'.. let\'s face it, you\'re pissing off keyboard players left and right
When did he take over the reigns of that job from Joe? ;)
When Joe became a chica
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I suppose the gates are open now
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fuck off, k, thx
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fuck off, k, thx
ahhh come on now. no need for such rough language. Go watch nip/tuck like a good lil chica. lol
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i dont need any shit from anyone. nip tuck is a great show. even todd stoops watches it.
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even todd stoops watches it.
oh, then it must be great.
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Now that Stoops is on board, shall we change this thread to \'A look @ the year of 3 growing bands\'?
While we\'re at it, can anyone (perhaps even Mr. Raqkeys himself) name a good, entry-level Raq show to download?
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Now that Stoops is on board, shall we change this thread to \'A look @ the year of 3 growing bands\'?
While we\'re at it, can anyone (perhaps even Mr. Raqkeys himself) name a good, entry-level Raq show to download?
Good question. I have thought about downloading the moe.down set but I know I\'ll just end up comparing the performance to the blow out Bfast sets and that\'s just not fair to RAQ.
So I also would like a primer show recommendation.
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the moe.down set is unreal... I highly suggest it.
Stoopes do YOU want some Zappa rehearsal discs?
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the moe.down set is unreal... I highly suggest it.
OK I am streaming it now.
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the moe.down set is unreal... I highly suggest it.
Stoopes do YOU want some Zappa rehearsal discs?
Yo wtf I want some Zappa rehearsal discs! im not a big famous pianoboy but do you think you could hook me up? damn you and leith are both tryin to get all over his cock.
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the moe.down set is unreal... I highly suggest it.
Stoopes do YOU want some Zappa rehearsal discs?
Yo wtf I want some Zappa rehearsal discs! im not a big famous pianoboy but do you think you could hook me up? damn you and leith are both tryin to get all over his cock.
Jealous much?
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blackie he gets his AFTER yours bud ;)
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OK well after listening to the 1st set of the moe.down6 sets, I gotta say they sound ALOT better(read less Phishy) than when I saw them last year in San Diego. Then I got to Echidna\'s Arf (Of You) and well It is no contest on who plays that song better. The Bfast own that song.
Anyway I think I will go ahead and download this show as it is pretty enjoyable.
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todd came up to me and greg ellis with jordo while we were eating at nectar\'s and introduced himself to me. He was a pretty nice guy, couldn\'t really understand where all the negative comments were comin from. just goes to show you can\'t take other people\'s opinons to heart
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can everyone leave igzy alone/? he made a booboo but he doesn\'t deserve to continuously get shit for it.
Yo wtf I want some Zappa rehearsal discs! im not a big famous pianoboy but do you think you could hook me up? damn you and leith are both tryin to get all over his cock.
make me a copy if you ever get the discs.
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^^^^^^^
greg wasn\'t the only one who said something negative........i actually got the vibe from the other posts
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She
Nan
I
Gans!!!!!
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"i dont need any shit from anyone. nip tuck is a great show. even todd stoops watches it." maybe the best post i have ever read on any message board, also that show is beasters
AD is where it\'s at
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can everyone leave igzy alone/? he made a booboo but he doesn\'t deserve to continuously get shit for it.
thanks holly. glad to know you\'re on my team.
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I accompanied Leith to the Tea Leaf Green show in S.F. on Friday night. It was my first time hanging with Leith and TLG, both controversial subjects on .info.;)
Now that I have seen the band (in their home stomping grounds I might add), I\'m in a better position to add my thoughts on their music.
I didn\'t really dig their songs and thought there was a homogenous sound for most of the night, with the exception of \'Garden 2\'.
However, once they broke out of the formal compositions, I really enjoyed their jamming and would love to hear more. They did a great job employing lighting effects and shifting momentum to strengthen the performance.
The most talented musician is undoubtedly Trevor, the keyboard shredder. He\'s really fun to watch and hear.
I was really unimpressed with the Tea Leaf fanbase (even Leith made a similar comment, and he\'s a TLG hardcore). The energy and family vibe of a Breakfast show was nowhere to be found. Leith has referenced a TLG board that lacks all the ballbreaking and special, quirky personalities found on .info. Most of the people in attendance did not seem fun and approachable either, another turnoff. Aside from Leith\'s reactions/enjoyment, there appeared to be few signs of "Ser face ownage".
I\'d probably consider going to a second show at a later date to see if the songs grab me the second time around, though I would only go if in the company of others that are into TLG.
TLG definitely added an additional layer (and I\'ve got hundreds already) of love for The Breakfast + B fam.
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I am calling shenanigans on the merge of AlZ\'s post about going to the TLG show with Leith with Leith\'s thread about TLG and the Breakfast......
bad merge.confirmed
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I am calling shenanigans on the merge of AlZ\'s post about going to the TLG show with Leith with Leith\'s thread about TLG and the Breakfast......
bad merge.confirmed
My post wasn\'t merged, a second thread that was spawned by this thread was merged into it when this discussion broke out last month. I just added my TLG comments to the existing thread yesterday.
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ahhhh...then i recall my previous post and say carry on as you were....
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I am calling shenanigans on the merge of AlZ\'s post about going to the TLG show with Leith with Leith\'s thread about TLG and the Breakfast......
bad merge.confirmed
My post wasn\'t merged, a second thread that was spawned by this thread was merged into it when this discussion broke out last month. I just added my TLG comments to the existing thread yesterday.
not a bad merge just a poorly placed post.....shoulda been posted in my "Tea Leith Green" thread ;)