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Breakfast Babble => The Chase => Over Exposure => Topic started by: FrankZappa on September 01, 2009, 02:48:52 pm
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Sully\'s (http://www.sullyspub.com/)
2071 Park St
Hartford, CT
860.231.8881
21+ / $10 advance, $12 day of
Doors: 9:00
special guests the Mclovins
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I\'m due to arrive at the Providence airport around 6pm this night. Not sure I\'m going to be able to make it down. Maybe I should try?
Never have been to a Sully\'s rager.
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I don\'t understand this "maybe" you speed of.
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you def have time. such a tough weekend to plan in advance. let it roll, wahstock, sully\'s or groundation at harper\'s.
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I\'ll be riding my wheelchair from Let It Roll to Sully\'s.
or groundation at harper\'s.
I prefer to listen to Groundation sitting on a couch with some fresh n\' full aluminum by my side ;)
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isnt 9/19 a Saturday?
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Yeah this is happening on Saturday.
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I\'m due to arrive at the Providence airport around 6pm this night. Not sure I\'m going to be able to make it down. Maybe I should try?
Never have been to a Sully\'s rager.
YES!!
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I\'m probably not gonna hurt myself to get out there. I\'ve got Telepath Thursday, Further Friday and early flight on Sat.
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In that case, I\'ll hurt you!
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What\'s a little pleasure if not spiked with pain?
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Yeah this is happening on Saturday.
my bad. fixed.
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OK Serious Question:::
A grip of minors (under 21) are rollin out to Let It Roll > Branstock and obviously they really wanna rage Sullys too.
If the McLovins can get in there, why can\'t these kids??
Is there a way we can get like 4 or 5 not-that-much-under-21 kids into Sullys? IMO if they are savage enough to pull 3 shows in like 30 hours or something they deserve the rules to be broken.
Guest list? "Band crew"? Merch desk workers? Riot? Group-effort 21+ ID passback? Get there early enough and say they are the McLovins?
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OK Serious Question:::
A grip of minors (under 21) are rollin out to Let It Roll > Branstock and obviously they really wanna rage Sullys too.
If the McLovins can get in there, why can\'t these kids??
Is there a way we can get like 4 or 5 not-that-much-under-21 kids into Sullys? IMO if they are savage enough to pull 3 shows in like 30 hours or something they deserve the rules to be broken.
Guest list? "Band crew"? Merch desk workers? Riot? Group-effort 21+ ID passback? Get there early enough and say they are the McLovins?
It can be done, probably wont be sanctioned by the band, but good luck..........it\'s been done before, however, If I owned a business that could be closed down due to having minors on the premises, I would be hard pressed to listen to any kind of sob story about how rules should be broken for these kids. but it has been done before, and at sullys
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Give me advice. ID passpacks don\'t usually work well for multiple people that don\'t look like me!
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Give me advice. ID passpacks don\'t usually work well for multiple people that don\'t look like me!
ID Passback wont work. There is never a rush of people trying to get in which would provide the proper distraction needed.....
Good luck 1. trying to convince the band to let them pose as crew, merch, etc. 2. It is a BAR and NOBODY under 21 is allowed in. And lets not try to use the fact that the McLovin\'s are under 21. They are on the bill. I have seen Gavin forced to set up merch outside of venues when he was under 21.
How many underage kids are we talking? If it was 1 person, id say you have a 80% chance of sneaking them in. 2, id say your chances drop to 65%-70%....any more than that, I would say you are under 20% chance of success.......
The only real way to get them in would be, get them there early, and chill on the pizza side, then have them come over when the breakfast starts....
its a sorry chip situation. I suggest you leave them at Wah-Stock whilest you and the legal drinkers hit up sullys....
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i don\'t think there is a wristband or a stamp at sully\'s, but there is really no way of getting around not being 21. i think the only way of getting in is kind of sneaking in through the back of the bar once the show has started or getting there reaally early, but there is no guarantee of not getting caught, etc. i just know a few times when i\'ve been there i\'ve basically just walked right through without even being greeted by any sort of bouncer person.
then again, you should not listen to a person has been caught for being underage at sully\'s.
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when i was underaged i had to get the the venue when the band did and help load in/ stick around all afternoon/nite. def hope we can work somethin out i\'ll be with you (if thats still cool) so i\'ll help pull some strings. honestly shouldnt be too hard
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That\'s what I was thinking, maybe I could use the pizza side to our advantage..
I feel kinda bad if it doesn\'t work out though cuz these kids (I\'m guessing 4 to 6 depending how many end up going to Wormtown) are maximally psyched and the fact they\'re skipping Wormtown to rage a nearly impossible run makes them deserving psychedelic soldiers in my mind.
That and they represent the next generation of enthusiastic / non-jaded and bitchy Breakfast fans. Our world needs them.
when i was underaged i had to get the the venue when the band did and help load in/ stick around all afternoon/nite. def hope we can work somethin out i\'ll be with you (if thats still cool) so i\'ll help pull some strings. honestly shouldnt be too hard
Yea kidd take a train down to get here early Friday afternoon, and burrito-buns can probably pick you up. Or better yet take the bus straight to downtown emo-ville, whatever works for you. I\'m tryin to leave probably around 2:00ish cuz I gotta work at least a decent chunk of the day but also wanna get some chill-time in.
Hopefully this shit w00ks out, worst case scenario I guess is they can party at the \'Stock and still catch 2 shows.
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I wish you the best of luck. I wont be getting up there till just before the boys take the stage...
In my honest opinion, it seems like there are going to be 4-6 miserable and pissed kiddies in the parking lot saturday night.
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Under 21 dance party on the sidewalk out front! If we bring the red velvet rope and our own hand stamps I can\'t imagine Sully\'s would have any objections...
...oh wait that\'s the same place that threatened us with pistols after the last show :lol:
Yeah I don\'t think I\'m gonna make any promises unless the band wants to promote them to temporary crew status and delight the shit out of them.
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That\'s what I was thinking, maybe I could use the pizza side to our advantage..
I feel kinda bad if it doesn\'t work out though cuz these kids (I\'m guessing 4 to 6 depending how many end up going to Wormtown) are maximally psyched and the fact they\'re skipping Wormtown to rage a nearly impossible run makes them deserving psychedelic soldiers in my mind.
That and they represent the next generation of enthusiastic / non-jaded and bitchy Breakfast fans. Our world needs them.
when i was underaged i had to get the the venue when the band did and help load in/ stick around all afternoon/nite. def hope we can work somethin out i\'ll be with you (if thats still cool) so i\'ll help pull some strings. honestly shouldnt be too hard
Yea kidd take a train down to get here early Friday afternoon, and burrito-buns can probably pick you up. Or better yet take the bus straight to downtown emo-ville, whatever works for you. I\'m tryin to leave probably around 2:00ish cuz I gotta work at least a decent chunk of the day but also wanna get some chill-time in.
Hopefully this shit w00ks out, worst case scenario I guess is they can party at the \'Stock and still catch 2 shows.
im pretty sure george and me convinced his gf to drive us and then we were gonna go back to CT with you and take the train home after the weekend if that works with you brah. we\'ll get your boys in there ill work my ass off for ya\'ll. my ass !
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I wish you the best of luck. I wont be getting up there till just before the boys take the stage...
In my honest opinion, it seems like there are going to be 4-6 miserable and pissed kiddies in the parking lot saturday night.
I\'d have to say I agree with Gencs on this one... Every time I\'ve been up there for the bfast lately, there has been a door man at the front and the back entrances. I mean I guess if they show up early before the door guys are posted they might be able to get in the doors, but then what are they gonna do... avoid the bar? Wouldn\'t that make them look even more obvious? Unless they are ALL DD\'s (Which isn\'t a bad thing). When there hasn\'t been a doorman, the bartenders usually check the ID\'s. After the door guys start, I suppose they could hide in the bushes all stealthlike and wait for an opportune moment when one of them has to take a leak and then sneak in...? I\'m not sayin it\'s an impossible feat to get in, it\'s just gonna take some prior planning or extreme luck. It\'s much easier to get in there on nights when there isn\'t an act they\'re collecting at the door for.
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Yeah I doubt they really give a hoot about being able to drink or not, they just really wanna see Breakfast. Gonna have to play this one by ear it seems.
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just tell them to walk in like the own the place and dont look back
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just tell them to walk in like the own the place and dont look back
Only way to do it.
This sneakin\' in is inappropriate. Why don\'t you think about Sully\'s feelings.
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It\'s hard to look like you own the place when you\'re a group of saucer-eyed 19 year olds who just raged 2 festivals/shows/parties in the previous 24 hours :lol:
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It\'s hard to look like you own the place when you\'re a group of saucer-eyed 19 year olds who just raged 2 festivals/shows/parties in the previous 24 hours :lol:
i beg to differ, i did it all the time when i was 19.
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Not everyone can step so hard, as much as we\'d wish! :D
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The one and only last time I went to Sully\'s, I had a super dooper time meeting up with everyone, but I have to say, that place is sketchville. I\'d rather wait it out for Daniel Street the following weekend, and enjoy Letting It Roll until Sunday! Then again, I don\'t need to rage it like I used to-- mostly for the sake of needing to be intensely on point while working at the new job. Applied Behavior Analysis is intense.
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The one and only last time I went to Sully\'s, I had a super dooper time meeting up with everyone, but I have to say, that place is sketchville. I\'d rather wait it out for Daniel Street the following weekend, and enjoy Letting It Roll until Sunday! Then again, I don\'t need to rage it like I used to-- mostly for the sake of needing to be intensely on point while working at the new job. Applied Behavior Analysis is intense.
Do you do 1:1 in home training or do you work in a school? I\'m an OT at a private special ed school. We have several students that have been subejected to formal ABA training in the past... all we notice now is that they have become prompt dependent drones.
Yeah I doubt they really give a hoot about being able to drink or not, they just really wanna see Breakfast. Gonna have to play this one by ear it seems.
I wasn\'t trying to suggest that they were looking to booze it up... all I meant is that if they go in early, before the door guys are working... they would look kinda strange/out of place if they were just hangin out in the bar for 2 hours waiting for a band to play. Honestly, its not like there\'s a ton of people in there until about 30 minutes before the boys go on... I think they\'d have more of a shot if they coud get in once the crowd builds, then they can just blend in. Its just the matter of being able to get in at that point thats the issue. Does that make better sense? I wish them the best of luck... hey if they cant get in, there\'s always the back parking lot... maybe someone will leave the back door open so they can at least listen!
Do the McLovin\'s go on at 9? I\'ve been dying to catch these guys...
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The real issue is getting them past the doorguys. Their job is to keep underage kids out. To go through a door guy requires to show ID and pay cover. And there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, that anybody over or under 21 will talk their way into a show without having proper ID. Obviously this differs from venue to venue, but as for Sullys and Daniel St, there is no getting through a doorguy without ID.
The only way would be the sneak in through the pizza side, as far as I can see. But that requires these kids hanging out at the right time, making their move at the right time, and then blending in for the remainder of the night. Impossible, no. Improbable after a marathon Breakfast bender, probably. However, I wish them the best of luck and will do my best to cast a nice shadow over them up front up in Timmy and Doozers grills........
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Yeah too bad they usually have some retarded DJ or rap music playing outside when the band is inside, you can\'t even hear them from the tiki lounge area. They should def open the door. I think last show I stood at the door during Eyes of the World and held it open just so people out there heard it anyway :P
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I think last show I stood at the door during Eyes of the World and held it open just so people out there heard it anyway :P
one of the only wavy memories i have of that evening...
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i don\'t want to say anything ridiculous, but...
that was the greatest thing i\'ve even seen ever by anbody
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so wot happened? anyone awake yet, or still awake?
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i don\'t want to say anything ridiculous, but...
that was the greatest thing i\'ve even seen ever by anbody
so wot happened? anyone awake yet, or still awake?
DEETZ?!
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Yeah, as far as the second set goes, it\'s hard to describe how good it was. Just unreal.
The insane jam that led into the craziest mayfly I\'ve ever seen, the frenzy that the worked up to towards the end before ahoy was just ridiculous. Best one I\'ve seen. And I don\'t recall ever seeing anything in my life better than rush. I sincerely hope this was recorded. All I remember after that is spunk, which was also jaw dropping. Was there anything else? I remeber drunk monk blowing us away, I remember reel time being a huge surprise, the sound was incredible, best one I\'ve seen. Gravity too.
Someone post a setlist cuz it\'s out of order in my head. But yes, I have to agree with zuke on this one. Glad I was there.
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insane in the membrane
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We have video!
Found a way to do handheld camera with a mic extension cord.
Did it second set. Looks cool!
Support your local McLovins!
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i: jam>gravity, drunk monk, the sound, reel time
ii: jam>mayfly, rush, spunk
sleeping beauty was in there somewhere, right?
oh and the mclovins are for real. good stage presence too.
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I think it was before reel time.
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3 song second set? must\'ve been jammmmmmmmed
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Jammed isn\'t a strong enough word.
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McLovins Set
Soundcheck: It\'s Ice jam, blues jam both w/ Jordan
I: Deep Monster Trance, Dynne(?), Virtual Circle, ?, YEM, ? > Tweezer Reprise > ?
E: Conundrum
The Breakfast
Soundcheck: Whipping Post jam
Set I: jam*> Gravity, The Sound, Drunk Monk Bar, Sleeping Beauty, Reel Time
Set II: jam > Mayfly Disarray, Rush, Spunk
*w/ Whipping Post teases
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We have video!
Found a way to do handheld camera with a mic extension cord.
Did it second set. Looks cool!
Support your local McLovins!
Well, at least part of this monster show got taped! Thanks Ken!
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It was actually Gravity > Sound, Gravity unfinished. Seeing them at Sully\'s is always such a mindfuck. Man what a show. First Reel Time since Burlington 08 was ser as was the opening Jam > Gravity (which I called, yay) > Sound was about 50 minutes straight. MFD and Rush were completely out of control. Man a what a great day of BreakfastAGE. Shit was bananas, bonkers, all that stuff. My mind is still blown.
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damn, wish I made it.
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frolfer,the whole show got video taped.
I did a hand held camera on the second set.
First set was a tripod.
Sat on the floor in front of the band.
Got a lot of up the nose shots!
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thanks for all of your efforts Ken!
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Fuck this show looks bomb. I was supposed to head over with my Zoom H4N but we were so beat and braindead after Let It Roll (if any of you saw me towards the end of the Breakfast show you might understand :P) I didn\'t make it to Branstock or Sully\'s. Pizzaburrito was straight passed out and I wasn\'t in the greatest condition to drive...
So, uh... is audio of the whole show going to be available? Or just video first set and both second set?
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Who knows. I remember seeing this guy I\'ve never seen before frantically hanging mics from the ceiling at the beginging of the second set, weather or not any of us will get to hear it, I guess we\'ll just have to see. Don\'t remember seeing Fitzy checking on his equipment though.
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Wow, what a great set! Gravity, Sound, Reel Time- you\'re lucky if you caught this show! Let-it-Roll was so much fun I could\'ve never managed to pull myself away from it.
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Yeah Fitzy asked me Friday night if I could tape Sullys... which seemed highly probable at the time and I said I most likely could.
But not long after that all the herbal green tea and trail mix I\'d been eating pretty much non stop since arrival at Let It Roll (besides the hour and a half I pulled it together for the ride home) kicked me in the brain pretty hard.
Felt kinda bad sittin at home with the rig knowing I was missing a most likely ass kicking show but I\'m like a 28 year old whos very rarely drinks much green tea anymore, yet for some reason Let It Roll seemed like a great place to overindulge. Too much L-Theanine and antioxidants!
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i: jam>gravity, drunk monk, the sound, reel time
ii: jam>mayfly, rush, spunk
sleeping beauty was in there somewhere, right?
i: jam>gravity, drunk monk, the sound, sleeping beauty, reel time
ii: jam>mayfly, rush, spunk
----> so is this right?
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i: jam>gravity, drunk monk, the sound, reel time
ii: jam>mayfly, rush, spunk
sleeping beauty was in there somewhere, right?
i: jam>gravity, drunk monk, the sound, sleeping beauty, reel time
ii: jam>mayfly, rush, spunk
----> so is this right?
Set I: jam*> Gravity, The Sound, Drunk Monk Bar, Sleeping Beauty, Reel Time
Set II: jam > Mayfly Disarray, Rush, Spunk
*w/ Whipping Post teases
I think this is more accurate, drunk monk was definitely after the sound. the only thing i might have missed was the sound going back into gravity? i didnt catch that but the rest of the first set is correct. Anyone know when the last Sleeping Beauty was... if my mind serves me correct it was a Sullys show on 1/31/09?
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Totally sold on Reel Time.
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Who knows. I remember seeing this guy I\'ve never seen before frantically hanging mics from the ceiling at the beginging of the second set, weather or not any of us will get to hear it, I guess we\'ll just have to see. Don\'t remember seeing Fitzy checking on his equipment though.
That dudes .info name is skiprince. ive seen him at a few gtb, beatles a-z and a few bfast shows. always got his gear with him, but ive never seen him post any of his recordings. hopefully he caught the whole show and this one will make it up on the board.
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how was rush?