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Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 02:59:27 am
I am truly pissed off that all these freakin\' dates are coming out and we still have little idea when the band is coming out West!!!!!!!!
 Yeah we know it is at the tail end of March but come the FUCK on! A date in MAY is released before the Western dates in MARCH? That is the epitome of fuckin\' weaksauce!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Me! on January 28, 2006, 03:04:48 am
Relax GUY!
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 03:08:49 am
yeah yeah. I am tired of being told to chill out. How the fuck can I promote a show/s w/o a date/s? The earlier the better. Come on. If the band wants people to come out  they need a really good promotion as the have really fallen off the radar out here.  This is only coming from my desire that they get a good reception ie good size crowds. If you want to flame fuck off! and that\'s not personal Chris that is to anybody that wants to get on me for this thread.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Me! on January 28, 2006, 03:10:41 am
I\'m not even gonna get into it with you.......
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 03:12:00 am
Thanx. Just venting per usual
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on January 28, 2006, 11:55:43 am
You need meds....

When the signed contracts come in, the dates get posted.  Period.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 12:32:31 pm
Quote from: Steffmo
You need meds....

When the signed contracts come in, the dates get posted.  Period.

pffffft
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Jim Cobb on January 28, 2006, 01:04:28 pm
whaddya mean pfft?  they can\'t post dates until they are confirmed.  plain and simple.  what do you want them to do?  release dates without knowing if their actually going to be playing those dates?  then what?  you\'ll promote the shit out of a show before realizing that the show you spent so much time and energy promoting isn\'t actually gonna happen.  that would suck for everyone involved.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: obsession600 on January 28, 2006, 01:30:34 pm
:that:
I think Leith is already on a ton of meds. You keeping up with the dosage, Leith?
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 28, 2006, 01:37:28 pm
The fault needs placed on the booking agent and there release of confirmed dates. The band only releases them when they know they are confirmed, as Steffmo said, signed.

I also agree with Leith that the shows on this tour heading out West are more important then a bunch of local dates being announced. More street work is needed for the mid-west, west then the east coast. Hell, we can use all the time we can get to promote the band.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Overexjoesure on January 28, 2006, 01:46:06 pm
Time to go shopping,....................again

http://www.montereypeninsulaartists.com/site/
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 02:06:22 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb
whaddya mean pfft?  they can\'t post dates until they are confirmed.  plain and simple.  what do you want them to do?  release dates without knowing if their actually going to be playing those dates?  then what?  you\'ll promote the shit out of a show before realizing that the show you spent so much time and energy promoting isn\'t actually gonna happen.  that would suck for everyone involved.

I get your point but my point is why release all these other dates? They do not HAVE to release the dates and it seems to me that they KNOW there are people (not just me) that are looking for dates out West. We all know that any date out east is going to have a crowd and any in places like Utica are sure to be attended well, so why not just release those dates after the Western ones?
So yeah pffft

Quote from: Spacey
The fault needs placed on the booking agent and there release of confirmed dates. The band only releases them when they know they are confirmed, as Steffmo said, signed.

I also agree with Leith that the shows on this tour heading out West are more important then a bunch of local dates being announced. More street work is needed for the mid-west, west then the east coast. Hell, we can use all the time we can get to promote the band.

Thank God Someone understands what the hell I am talking about.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: SlimPickens on January 28, 2006, 02:23:38 pm
Quote from: leith
I get your point but my point is why release all these other dates? They do not HAVE to release the dates and it seems to me that they KNOW there are people (not just me) that are looking for dates out West. about.

It seems to this casual observer that they release the dates as they get the signed contracts.  I\'m not understanding your irritation w/ the order in which they announce dates.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 28, 2006, 02:40:44 pm
Quote from: leith


Quote from: Spacey
The fault needs placed on the booking agent and there release of confirmed dates. The band only releases them when they know they are confirmed, as Steffmo said, signed.

I also agree with Leith that the shows on this tour heading out West are more important then a bunch of local dates being announced. More street work is needed for the mid-west, west then the east coast. Hell, we can use all the time we can get to promote the band.

Thank God Someone understands what the hell I am talking about.


believe it or not, I have had this conversation with someone a couple of days ago.

This is a major issue in my opinion b/c you really need at least 6 weeks to properly promote a show and when flyers get to you the week before the show all your efforts are useless b/c maybe 2 people out of 100 flyers will actually come on such short notice.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 02:42:06 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens
Quote from: leith
I get your point but my point is why release all these other dates? They do not HAVE to release the dates and it seems to me that they KNOW there are people (not just me) that are looking for dates out West. about.

It seems to this casual observer that they release the dates as they get the signed contracts.  I\'m not understanding your irritation w/ the order in which they announce dates.

the irritation lies in the way they release dates. it is soo random and and does not lend to promotion well. The idea behind promotion is to BUILD anticipation. Releasing dates to early can lend to the anticipation leveling off and releasing dates to late lends to well... Dates out east will get a crowd it\'s been proven and these dates can be released way later than they are. Mid West and West coast fans that may want to get tour info from .info and are not used to the way shit is done in Bfast land may be discouraged @ seeing dates that do not include them.
It really is weaksauce.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 28, 2006, 02:43:58 pm
I\'d rather all tour dates be released at one time or in parts regarding to that section of the tour.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 02:46:37 pm
Quote from: Spacey


believe it or not, I have had this conversation with someone a couple of days ago.

This is a major issue in my opinion b/c you really need at least 6 weeks to properly promote a show and when flyers get to you the week before the show all your efforts are useless b/c maybe 2 people out of 100 flyers will actually come on such short notice.

Exactly. So as of now going by the 6 wk rule I guess maybe I posted a wk early according to rumors of a western tour and it\'s placement in March.
But you get my point and I\'m happy @ least you do.
You should be in charge of promoting this band in a more official capacity, maybe then they would blow up like we all want.

Quote from: Spacey
I\'d rather all tour dates be released at one time or in parts regarding to that section of the tour.

That\'s how MOST bands do it and it really works well.
Then again The Breakfast have their own way of doing things, that they seem to be happy with so....
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: SlimPickens on January 28, 2006, 02:49:51 pm
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 28, 2006, 02:56:38 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 03:02:36 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.

Well the larger your visibility the shorter amount of time that you really need for promotion and Clubs will give you more run also as Spacey said.
That is really a big part of promotion thus my desire to start promotion for The Bfast as their visibility out here is just not as high as it was 1 1/2 yrs ago.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Overexjoesure on January 28, 2006, 03:26:00 pm
http://www.montereypeninsulaartists.com/site/
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 28, 2006, 03:28:06 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not believed that the band was too small for a booking agent? I thought I remember someone saying that the band had trouble finding an agent because they were to "small".
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Overexjoesure on January 28, 2006, 03:29:56 pm
Fucking bullshit. The band just needs a little fire behind them.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 03:37:41 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not believed that the band was too small for a booking agent? I thought I remember someone saying that the band had trouble finding an agent because they were to "small".

Steffmo posted that the band was rejected by some agents due to them being too small (read low visibility).
That is one of the reasons I am soo riled up abt this subject. It seems no one is doing anything constructive within management to increase this visibility. The proof is in that I do not see any mention of this band anywhere but here and an occasional jambands.com blurb when they do something like FF7\'s Star Wars.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 28, 2006, 03:43:05 pm
Quote from: Spacey
I\'d rather all tour dates be released at one time or in parts regarding to that section of the tour.


Spacey is right here - Steffmo said the band wants to announce all the tour dates for the U.S. tour at once.  They have a couple remaining dates that haven\'t been confirmed.  The more dates and geographic coverage, the more grand the release of the info to the jamband sites.  Also, let\'s say as an example that the band is trying to shore up a date in Kansas City.  If the band announces all the other confirmed tour dates online (Jambase etc.) and doesn\'t mention Kansas City, people from Kansas/Missouri will probably not follow up again with the tour if they don\'t see any dates initially listed in their region.

Quote from: leith
Quote from: Spacey
Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not believed that the band was too small for a booking agent? I thought I remember someone saying that the band had trouble finding an agent because they were to "small".

Steffmo posted that the band was rejected by some agents due to them being too small (read low visibility).
That is one of the reasons I am soo riled up abt this subject. It seems no one is doing anything constructive within management to increase this visibility. The proof is in that I do not see any mention of this band anywhere but here and an occasional jambands.com blurb when they do something like FF7\'s Star Wars.



Well at least they are finally embarking on the tour that you have been bellyaching about for months.  Isn\'t that a step in the right direction?  I think a lot of jamband correspondence is done on an ad-hoc basis by fans such as yourself.  Maybe you are part of the solution to getting more press?  Write to every jamband site and newspaper in the nation!!  I guarantee you will have an effect on their visibility.


And one more thing, I\'ll see you on tour in March!!!! ;)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 04:01:03 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu
Quote from: Spacey
I\'d rather all tour dates be released at one time or in parts regarding to that section of the tour.

Spacey is right here - Steffmo said the band wants to announce all the tour dates for the U.S. tour at once.  They have a couple remaining dates that haven\'t been confirmed.  The more dates and geographic coverage, the more grand the release of the info to the jamband sites.  Also, let\'s say as an example that the band is trying to shore up a date in Kansas City.  If the band announces all the other confirmed tour dates online (Jambase etc.) and doesn\'t mention Kansas City, people from Kansas/Missouri will probably not follow up again with the tour if they don\'t see any dates initially listed in their region.

Quote from: leith
Quote from: Spacey
Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not believed that the band was too small for a booking agent? I thought I remember someone saying that the band had trouble finding an agent because they were to "small".
Steffmo posted that the band was rejected by some agents due to them being too small (read low visibility).
That is one of the reasons I am soo riled up abt this subject. It seems no one is doing anything constructive within management to increase this visibility. The proof is in that I do not see any mention of this band anywhere but here and an occasional jambands.com blurb when they do something like FF7\'s Star Wars.


Well at least they are finally embarking on the tour that you have been bellyaching about for months.  Isn\'t that a step in the right direction?  I think a lot of jamband correspondence is done on an ad-hoc basis by fans such as yourself.  Maybe you are part of the solution to getting more press?  Write to every jamband site and newspaper in the nation!!  I guarantee you will have an effect on their visibility.


And one more thing, I\'ll see you on tour in March!!!! ;)



Uh so you feel as I do. Just substitute K.C. for SF or L.A. or S.D. and you can see the frustration w/ release of dates out east for march april and May!
As for releasing dates in a bunch to have a big splash on jambands or whatever is a buncha crap. If the band\'s visibility is not that high a press release over an overdue tour is supposed to boost it that high? I doubt it.

Oh and it\'s not like I do not bug all sorts of net sites to give this band more attention. Come On GUY!!!!!!!! If anyone you know is going to bug the shit out of people to recognize a band it\'s gonna be me. I have sent music,emails and followed up to @ least 3 publications, 2 radio stations and numerous music blog sites.

Oh and one more thing.
You are such a hoo haa Al. You belly ache to anyone but this board abt the Bfast\'s lack of direction in this area.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 28, 2006, 04:49:22 pm
;) ;)
Quote from: leith


Oh and one more thing.
You are such a hoo haa Al.

You belly ache to anyone but this board abt the Bfast\'s lack of direction in this area.


I don\'t need to bellyache, we have a full-time bellyacher on staff out in San Diego!!  Even when I do have criticisms/suggestions, I often don\'t need to state them because you already have.  I also don\'t feel the need to engage in cyber grudge matches with my fellow .inforumers on a daily basis.  

I may just be a little more diplomatic in my approach to the message board, whereas you fire grenades in every discussion then wonder why you don\'t have any allies in many threads.  Sometimes you have to ask yourself if it\'s worth arguing about every trivial subject imaginable.  

As for the hoo haa comment, perhaps we are ready for a round two of wrestlemania 420?  It\'s been 5 years since the last one.   My bet is that stick figure Duvall will go down pretty quick!!  ;)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on January 28, 2006, 04:52:47 pm
woah..
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 04:59:20 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu
Quote from: leith


Oh and one more thing.
You are such a hoo haa Al.

You belly ache to anyone but this board abt the Bfast\'s lack of direction in this area.


I don\'t need to bellyache, we have a full-time bellyacher on staff out in San Diego!!  Even when I do have criticisms/suggestions, I often don\'t need to state them because you already have.  I also don\'t feel the need to engage in cyber grudge matches with my fellow .inforumers on a daily basis.  

I may just be a little more diplomatic in my approach to the message board, whereas you fire grenades in every discussion then wonder why you don\'t have any allies in many threads.  Sometimes you have to ask yourself if it\'s worth arguing about every trivial subject imaginable.  

As for the hoo haa comment, say that to my face when we hang at the next show and you will have a purple welt on yours.  I am much rougher than stick figure Duvall ;)

Since we haven\'t held a wrestlemania 420 since 2001, maybe we are ready for a second go?

LOL yeah ok i\'ll give you that I am not as diplomatic as I could be but I figure the east coast mentality is such that it is the only way to get through.
I don\'t see the band\'s tour schedule from a promotion sense as a trivial subject.
and I have no problem reiterating my hoo haa comment to you in March. ;)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on January 28, 2006, 05:15:38 pm
You have the approximate time frame of the tour.  The specific dates will be announced shortly, when they are contracted.

I try to post enough information here to help you with your planning.  But there are certain rules that are meant not to be broken, like posting before confirmation or contacts.

As usual in this business, there are any number of issues that effect these things that you all know nothing about, or should know nothing about.  Band internal business is not your business, as much as certain frustrated wanna be managers think it is.

My suggestion to Leith is that he find a nice local band and show us all how brilliant his skills are by blowing them up into a national band in six months.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 28, 2006, 05:17:50 pm
Quote from: leith
I figure the east coast mentality is such that it is the only way to get through.


And what is the west coast mentality, believing that Quizno\'s and Subway make good subs?  ;)

Quote from: Steffmo
My suggestion to Leith is that he find a nice local band and show us all how brilliant his skills are by blowing them up into a national band in six months.


That would be an interesting case study.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 05:43:29 pm
Quote from: Steffmo
You have the approximate time frame of the tour.  The specific dates will be announced shortly, when they are contracted.

I try to post enough information here to help you with your planning.  But there are certain rules that are meant not to be broken, like posting before confirmation or contacts.

As usual in this business, there are any number of issues that effect these things that you all know nothing about, or should know nothing about.  Band internal business is not your business, as much as certain frustrated wanna be managers think it is.

My suggestion to Leith is that he find a nice local band and show us all how brilliant his skills are by blowing them up into a national band in six months.


 First off thanx for the info you do give. It helps to a certain extent for personal plans but I am thinking more of the folk that have no clue or care about .info and it\'s wealth of Breakfast data.
Band internal matters is a subject for FAN discussion. Sorry but that\'s how it is. FANS speculate and discuss all subjects concerning their favorite band. Some more than others.
Now how ridiculous is that suggestion? If there were a local band as talented as The Breakfast and could elicit the feelings this band does out of me, I would indeed have them playing all over the freakin\' place @ whatever costs I could legally endure. I guess it will only happen if a certain band relocates.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on January 28, 2006, 06:22:55 pm
I\'m all for fan discussion.  I in fact enjoy your passion for the band.

I do not enjoy your abusive side however, and your continuing insinuation that The Breakfast are not a priority.  It certainly is to me...I have a lot of time, money and talent tied up in it.  But that doesn\'t mean that I\'m going to do something stupid like release dates that don\'t have signed agreements for dates that are 2500 miles from the bands home base.

Cancellations or non existant gigs on the road KILL bands because they are out in the middle of nowhere with limited funds.  A couple of nights in hotels out of pocket can absolutely ruin a tour.  

We need for this to be a solid moneymaking tour for the band.  And they need to see that they can tour west and not come back in debt...which has happened every other time.

Thats all I have to say.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 06:37:45 pm
Quote from: Steffmo
I\'m all for fan discussion.  I in fact enjoy your passion for the band.

I do not enjoy your abusive side however, and your continuing insinuation that The Breakfast are not a priority.  It certainly is to me...I have a lot of time, money and talent tied up in it.  But that doesn\'t mean that I\'m going to do something stupid like release dates that don\'t have signed agreements for dates that are 2500 miles from the bands home base.

Cancellations or non existant gigs on the road KILL bands because they are out in the middle of nowhere with limited funds.  A couple of nights in hotels out of pocket can absolutely ruin a tour.  

We need for this to be a solid moneymaking tour for the band.  And they need to see that they can tour west and not come back in debt...which has happened every other time.

Thats all I have to say.

I know they are a priority to you but it does not seem to be one for Crescendo.
Would you rather I email them my discontent? I found that idea to be a bit much. This is a fansite and venting here is a better idea and does much less harm to the band.
I hope they can make $$ this time around maybe I will then be able to get some fall Bfast too.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on January 28, 2006, 07:40:14 pm
It is true that we hit some kind of speed bump in December.  But they hired some new people, at least one of which is quite dedicated to booking the Breakfast.  Of course you don\'t see that because you only see the confirmed dates.

You can email them if you think that alienating people that are working hard to make your favorite band bigger than ever is a great idea.  If your boss spoke to you the way you speak of people here you would probably haul him up on harassment charges...and you speaking to them in your inimitable tone will do nothing accept get the band dropped by another agent, thank you.

Your only problem is that you misjudge the difficulty of this kind of endeavor.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: SlimPickens on January 28, 2006, 07:46:39 pm
inimitable - Defying imitation; matchless
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on January 28, 2006, 08:00:02 pm
Quote from: SlimPickens
inimitable - Defying imitation; matchless

thank you!! :thumbsup: :)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 28, 2006, 08:06:03 pm
Quote from: leith

Would you rather I email them my discontent? I found that idea to be a bit much. This is a fansite and venting here is a better idea and does much less harm to the band.

I am capable of rational thought.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: oldnewbie on January 28, 2006, 08:24:18 pm
i\'m just curious how someone can spell inimitable and use it in a sentence but repeatedly gets except wrong  ;)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: bdfreetuna on January 29, 2006, 03:26:05 pm
One of the reasons I stick around new england...
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: kyndkate on January 29, 2006, 06:36:29 pm
All I know is that if they come out West or anywhere near me in March, I\'m NOT missing it this time (even though right now I have 2 jobs, school, and music gigs every Tuesday, Friday, Saturday). Having them come would motivate me to get some things done early, or just not even care about my agenda.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 29, 2006, 07:18:43 pm
Quote from: kyndkate
All I know is that if they come out West or anywhere near me in March, I\'m NOT missing it this time;) .


Especially after that Madison show you missed last November ;)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on January 31, 2006, 12:49:32 am
Watch over the next few days.....dates are clearing in bunches and as soon as the web sites are updated they will be available to you.

This promises to be the best Breakfast tour ever, and much touring is being set up for the balance of the year.  We\'d have liked this to be a little longer than 3 week tour, but some had committments here that limited it to that.  But there will be several other tours immediately following to cover area not connected on this three week run.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: obsession600 on January 31, 2006, 08:33:11 am
That is very encouraging news. Thanks for the update.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Wolfman on January 31, 2006, 09:55:57 am
Biggest fan on west coast makes ass out of himself for the 1,379th time...Band manager publicly tools on biggest fan on west coast for the 10th time.  :mickey:
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Mark on January 31, 2006, 10:32:06 am
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.
This show has already been listed in the Hartford Courant Calendar upcoming shows for at least a month. Breakfast NYE show was not listed until the week of the show. Big difference.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 31, 2006, 11:53:39 am
From the Crescendo psyte:

Thursday, March 9th
Jazz Haus
Lawrence, KS
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 31, 2006, 02:29:11 pm
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.
This show has already been listed in the Hartford Courant Calendar upcoming shows for at least a month. Breakfast NYE show was not listed until the week of the show. Big difference.


What show are you referring too?
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 31, 2006, 02:34:58 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.
This show has already been listed in the Hartford Courant Calendar upcoming shows for at least a month. Breakfast NYE show was not listed until the week of the show. Big difference.


What show are you referring too?

Dude, Spacey read the quotes again yo! You\'ll get it, I\'m sure of it.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 31, 2006, 02:43:52 pm
Quote from: leith
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: SlimPickens
In a perfect world I\'m sure you\'d have your 6 weeks.


You\'re right. Umphreys McGee sent me promotional material for the 2/14 show 2 weeks ago. That\'s under the 6 week mark but Toad\'s Place also gives them the publicity with the club which makes up for it.
This show has already been listed in the Hartford Courant Calendar upcoming shows for at least a month. Breakfast NYE show was not listed until the week of the show. Big difference.


What show are you referring too?

Dude, Spacey read the quotes again yo! You\'ll get it, I\'m sure of it.


I use VBlack and I can\'t read some of these quotes.

I wasn\'t sure if he was referring to the Umphreys show or a b\'fast show.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on January 31, 2006, 03:09:03 pm
Ahh. I took it to mean the UM show from the way the thread was going.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Mark on January 31, 2006, 04:19:38 pm
My point was that UM, a band from halfway across the country, has had a show in NEW HAVEN listed in the HARTFORD Courant for at least 6 weeks prior to the show. The Breakfasts\' NYE show was not listed in the Courant until the week of the show.

I think there is a lot of opportunity to have shows listed, for free, in a lot of papers, and it is not happening.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on January 31, 2006, 04:50:00 pm
Quote from: leith
Ahh. I took it to mean the UM show from the way the thread was going.



If it is referring to the UM show, then my point is further justified.

Quote from: Mark
My point was that UM, a band from halfway across the country, has had a show in NEW HAVEN listed in the HARTFORD Courant for at least 6 weeks prior to the show. The Breakfasts\' NYE show was not listed in the Courant until the week of the show.

I think there is a lot of opportunity to have shows listed, for free, in a lot of papers, and it is not happening.


I can\'t agree more.

Promotion is in dire straits.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: musiclvr on January 31, 2006, 05:09:32 pm
For what it\'s worth...From the Crescendo Artists site....(There is A Midwest date!)

Saturday, February 4th
The Breakfast at Knitting Factory (In House)
New York, NY

Saturday, February 11th
The Breakfast at Mill Street Brews
Southbridge, MA

Saturday, February 18th
The Breakfast at Iron Horse
Northampton, MA

Saturday, February 25th
The Breakfast at Premiere Music Hall
Waterbury, CT

Thursday, March 2nd
The Breakfast at The Stone Church Music Club
Newmarket, NH

Thursday, March 9th
The Breakfast at Jazz Haus
Lawrence, KS


Thursday, March 23rd
The Breakfast at Crystal Bay Club Casino
Crystal Bay, NV

Thursday, April 20th
The Breakfast at CLUB METRONOME/NECTAR’S****
BURLINGTON, VT

Friday, April 21st
The Breakfast at Nectar\'s
Burlington, VT

Saturday, May 20th
The Breakfast at The Electric Company
Utica, NY
 
Friday, May 26th
The Breakfast at Sterling Stage Kampitheater
Sterling, NY
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: sconnie4satan on January 31, 2006, 09:50:42 pm
heresay = March 3rd in Iowa City.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 31, 2006, 09:57:52 pm
Quote from: GSphan
heresay = March 3rd in Iowa City.


Keep in mind that they are in NH the night before, though NH to Iowa in a single day/straight shot is possible if they drive round-the-clock.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: sconnie4satan on January 31, 2006, 10:13:15 pm
yeah, I know.  I was surprised when I was told that.  Esp. since that means they would breeze right past Madison without stopping to play here...booooooo!

I hope they give us a nice little midwest run again...make a sconnie happy :)
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on January 31, 2006, 10:27:25 pm
Quote from: GSphan
yeah, I know.  I was surprised when I was told that.  Esp. since that means they would breeze right past Madison without stopping to play here...booooooo!

I hope they give us a nice little midwest run again...make a sconnie happy :)


After Nov., they can\'t pass up the opportunity to play in Madison this coming season.  

If the straight drive to Iowa is planned (1330 miles), hopefully they stick Bezerker at the wheel :biggrin:  for most of it while they rest up.  That kind of ride could deliver some rock star zombies, though I guess being cooped up in a van for a day could also be the catalyst for a bustout as they expend all the pent-up energy.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Me! on January 31, 2006, 10:35:06 pm
soem of the serest shows I\'ve seen have been shen they are just wasted energy wise
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Mark on February 01, 2006, 08:42:43 am
Quote from: Me!
soem of the serest shows I\'ve seen have been shen they are just wasted energy wise
So true.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: derickw on February 01, 2006, 09:20:59 am
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Me!
soem of the serest shows I\'ve seen have been shen they are just wasted energy wise
So true.


? :idunno:
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: davepeck on February 01, 2006, 09:31:03 am
i believe shen = when...
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: antbach on February 01, 2006, 10:13:54 am
side note: the band seems to be moving up in Crescendo\'s eyes, I think. They used to be on the main page 4th or 5th down in the right column, now they\'re 2nd down on the right column. Probably means nothing, but hey, when they move up that one spot and sit next to Yonder, maybe the world will be okay.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on February 01, 2006, 08:48:35 pm
Anyone else get the email with the release of the dates?

Quote from: Breakfast Tour Dates
Sat Feb  4 - Knitting Factory (All Ages) 74 Leonard St. New York, NY
             212.219.3132 / Main Performance Space / Tickets $10
             Doors 11:30pm / Breakfast 12am / http://www.knittingfactory.com

Sat Feb 11 - Mill Street Brews (18+) 18 Mill St. Southbridge, MA
             508.764.6900 / Tickets $10 / Doors 9pm / Breakfast 10:30pm
             http://www.millstreetbrews.com/

Fri Feb 17 - Colby College Coffehouse (Students Only) Waterville, ME
             FREE / Doors 8:30pm / Breakfast 9pm

Sat Feb 18 - Iron Horse (All Ages) 20 Center St. Northampton, MA
             413.584.0610 / Tix $10adv; $13dos / Doors 9:30pm
             Breakfast 10:30pm / http://www.iheg.com/index.asp

Sat Feb 25 - Premiere Music Hall () 11 Scovill St. Danbury, CT
             203.573.1600 / Doors 8pm / Show 9pm / Breakfast 11:30pm
             Tickets $12 / With Rolla & Rana
             http://www.premierconcerts.com/concerts.php

Thu Mar  2 - The Stone Church (18+) 5 Granite St. New Market, NH
             603.659.0066 / Tix $8adv; $10dos 21+, $11dos 18+
             Doors 7:30pm / Opener 9pm / Breakfast 10pm / Opener TBA
             http://www.thestonechurch.com

Breakfast Spring Tour

Tue Mar  7 - Iowa City Yacht Club (19+) 13 South Linn St. Iowa City, IA
             319.337.6464 / Doors 8pm / Breakfast 11pm
             Show 9:30pm / http://www.iowacityyachtclub.com

Wed Mar  8 - Venice Cafe () 1903 Pestalozzi Street  St. Louis, MO
             314.772.5994 / More Info TBA

Thu Mar  9 - Jazz Haus (21+) 926 1/2 Massachusetts AVe. Lawrence, KS
             785.749.3320 / Tix $4 / Doors 9pm / Breakfast 10pm
             http://jazzhaus.com/

Thu Mar 23 - Crystal Bay Club Casino (21+) #14 Highway 28 Crystal Bay, NV
             775.831.0512 / Tix $10 21+; $12 18+ / Doors 8pm
             Breakfast 10pm / http://www.crystalbayclubcasino.com/

Fri Mar 24 - Connecticut Yankee (All Ages) 100 Connecticut St.
             San Francisco, CA / 415.552.4440 / Tickets $12
             Breakfast 10pm / http://www.theyankee.com

Sat Mar 25 - Connecticut Yankee (All Ages) 100 Connecticut St.
             San Francisco, CA / 415.552.4440 / Tickets $12
             Breakfast 10pm / http://www.theyankee.com / More Info TBA

Fri Mar 31 - Mogollon Brewing Co (21+) 15 N Agassiz St. Flagstaff, AZ
             928.773.8950 / http://www.mogollonbrewing.com / More Info TBA

Thu Apr 20 - Club Metronome (18+) 188 Main St. Burlington, VT
             802.865.4563 ext2 / Doors 8pm / Show 9:30pm
             Tickets $5 for 18-20; 21+ Free / Breakfast 11:30pm
             http://www.clubmetronome.com

Fri Apr 21 - Nectars (21+) 188 Main St. Burlington, VT
             802.658.4771 / Doors 8pm / Show 9pm / Tickets $3
             Breakfast 11:30pm / http://www.liveatnectars.com

Sat May 20 - Electric Company (21+) 700 Varick St. Utica, NY
             315.792.9271 / $8 / Doors 9pm / Breakfast 11pm
             http://www.electricco.net

Fri May 26 - Sterling Stage Kampitheater (All Ages) 274 Kent Rd.
             Sterling, NY / 323.644.0429 / Breakfast 8:30pm
             $40early bird, $50adv; $60gate; $30 1day
             http://www.sterlingstage.com


There is a big hole between the 9th and 23rd that I hope will be filled with more dates.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: antbach on February 01, 2006, 08:52:38 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Anyone else get the email with the release of the dates?


There is a big hole between the 9th and 23rd that I hope will be filled with more dates.


yep, got it, and yep there\'s a big hole, and yep i too am hoping it will be filled seeing as i am on spring break the week before nevada and am interested in seeing where the band will be to help me plan if needed, otherwise, snoe.down here i come, maybe.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on February 01, 2006, 08:55:00 pm
2-Night run in San Fran. Al Z must be pumped! Leith must be ripping pissed.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on February 01, 2006, 09:03:37 pm
Quote from: Spacey
2-Night run in San Fran. Al Z must be pumped! Leith must be ripping pissed.


Excited though I\'m prepared to take the week off from work if/when more dates more announced.

The S.F. venue is only 10 miles away from my door!  Glad to see a two-date run in any city, not to mention so far away from home.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on February 01, 2006, 09:04:55 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu
Quote from: Spacey
2-Night run in San Fran. Al Z must be pumped! Leith must be ripping pissed.


Excited though I\'m prepared to take the week off from work if/when more dates more announced.



Ya you are.

Good for you.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: leith on February 01, 2006, 09:28:26 pm
Quote from: Spacey
2-Night run in San Fran. Al Z must be pumped! Leith must be ripping pissed.

Not really. They need more coverage in SF than anywhere else on the West Coast.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Steffmo on February 02, 2006, 12:46:31 am
First off...all the holes will be filled.  In fact, they already are.  A large chunk of that hole will be in Colodado and Utah at Ski Areas that have clubs.  Should be some excellent gigs as the ski area have some built in crowd.

California will be coverered North to south as would be expected.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on February 02, 2006, 03:00:06 am
Quote from: Steffmo
First off...all the holes will be filled.  In fact, they already are.  A large chunk of that hole will be in Colodado and Utah at Ski Areas that have clubs.  Should be some excellent gigs as the ski area have some built in crowd.

California will be coverered North to south as would be expected.



Just the news I had hoped for. Sounds like a real nice run. I must compliment on the choice of venues, all of them seem to be great places. I think they are going to do real well.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: sconnie4satan on February 02, 2006, 04:43:36 am
Quote from: Breakfast Tour Dates

Tue Mar  7 - Iowa City Yacht Club (19+) 13 South Linn St. Iowa City, IA
             319.337.6464 / Doors 8pm / Breakfast 11pm
             Show 9:30pm / http://www.iowacityyachtclub.com

Wed Mar  8 - Venice Cafe () 1903 Pestalozzi Street  St. Louis, MO
             314.772.5994 / More Info TBA

Thu Mar  9 - Jazz Haus (21+) 926 1/2 Massachusetts AVe. Lawrence, KS
             785.749.3320 / Tix $4 / Doors 9pm / Breakfast 10pm
             http://jazzhaus.com/


yeah, that\'s not gonna work for me.  grrrr....I was hoping for another weekend run.  

guess I\'ll just have to fly to the NE for a ser throwdown?!
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Me! on February 02, 2006, 11:07:05 am
Quote from: leith
Quote from: Spacey
2-Night run in San Fran. Al Z must be pumped! Leith must be ripping pissed.

Not really. They need more coverage in SF than anywhere else on the West Coast.

what like a two night run??????
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: antbach on February 02, 2006, 02:01:20 pm
conviniently, or just a coincidence, new monsoon also has a gap after March 9th. just some food for thought
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: Spacey on February 02, 2006, 02:22:05 pm
Quote from: antbach
conviniently, or just a coincidence, new monsoon also has a gap after March 9th. just some food for thought


That would be nice to see the two bands join up for a few nights. Maybe light up some venues with some ser music.
Title: What is up w/ the release of dates??
Post by: skalnbyc on February 02, 2006, 06:26:56 pm
Quote from: Spacey
Quote from: antbach
conviniently, or just a coincidence, new monsoon also has a gap after March 9th. just some food for thought


That would be nice to see the two bands join up for a few nights. Maybe light up some venues with some ser music.


So far, I can\'t see the bands pairing off for any of the announced CA/NV dates as the venues don\'t seem big enough to accomodate the two bands.  

As for the some of the speculative (T.B.A.) shows in other parts of CA (particularly places visited on past tours), they seem most likely to be Breakfast-only affairs.  Where is New Monsoon from?  Maybe they are planning on pairing off for some bigger shows in other states?

As for me, I\'m going to aim for all CA/NV shows, though I\'m not going predict whether I will make it to Arizona or not (it\'s almost 800 miles to Flagstaff).  I don\'t think I\'ve ever been to more than a couple Breakfast shows in a single week, so I\'m going to consider myself "on tour".  Hope to see some of you there (and meet plenty of new people).  Now is the time to make the arrangements!!
Title: Additional dates
Post by: Steffmo on February 03, 2006, 06:56:55 pm
These will post tomorrow on http://www.breakfast.net, but you get the jump here.



3/15 & 3/16 @ The Tug Boat, Steamboat Springs CO
Tix Price TBA
10pm start time
 
3/30/06 @ The Loft Bistro, Tempe AZ
$7 tix
10pm start time

These are 21 and over dates