Do you want the first born? I can\'t promise it with be anything special but it might work out for ya.
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Post by: Me! on January 31, 2006, 10:53:56 pm
not quite the same but.....amazon used and new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/B0007YMVY2/sr=1-3/qid=1138765750/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-7710535-1307955?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
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Post by: Spacey on January 31, 2006, 11:14:44 pm
Quote from: Me!
not quite the same but.....amazon used and new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/B0007YMVY2/sr=1-3/qid=1138765750/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-7710535-1307955?%5Fencoding=UTF8)
would you like Spacey 2?
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Post by: Me! on January 31, 2006, 11:23:30 pm
wait what\'s the resale value for kids on the black market these days.......
or would I get Spacey 2 in a cup...........................eeeeeeewwwwww!
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Post by: davepeck on February 01, 2006, 06:49:10 am
if you\'re gonna order, please use those links. ^^^
new trailer http://www.lbracco.com/media%20files%203/sopranos6tcatrailer02b.wmv note: contains language and nudity, so its not 100% work safe (no f bombs though)
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Post by: Spacey on February 01, 2006, 09:17:49 am
thanks for the links. going to be a purchase in the next few weeks or so.
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on March 09, 2006, 08:10:12 pm
sunday bitches!!!!
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Post by: Me! on March 09, 2006, 08:35:14 pm
can\'t fuckin wait, gotta find somewhere to watch it though, no HBO for this kid......
But I have a friend DVRing it for me........
any predictions?
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Post by: Igziabeher on March 09, 2006, 08:43:50 pm
woke up this moe.nin\'.......
got yoself a gun!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by: FreeSpirit on March 09, 2006, 08:45:51 pm
This season should be the BEST! I was really into this show at the beginning, but the last few seasons were more like soap operas and less blood/guts. I hope this final one will be worth the wait :banana:
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Post by: Gfunk on March 09, 2006, 11:39:34 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya
sunday bitches!!!!
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Post by: Gfunk on March 12, 2006, 09:05:38 am
bump are any of you italians gonna make some heady speghetti for your viewing/eating pleasures tonight?
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Post by: krispy on March 12, 2006, 09:37:13 am
that\'s italian-americans to you. and we like to say noodles and gravy!
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Post by: Me! on March 12, 2006, 12:46:44 pm
so here\'s a general question to bump this thread,
Anyone have a favorite episode?
Personally for me it\'s got to be The 2nd or 3rd to last of the 5th season where practically the entire episode is one of Tony\'s dreams, I just htought it was really well done.
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Post by: FreeSpirit on March 12, 2006, 12:50:54 pm
1st or 2nd season - "Death of the hoo haa" had to be one of my all-time faves also, the one where the guy dies by taking a shit was so funny! :lol:
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Post by: Klout on March 12, 2006, 02:17:12 pm
the one where paulie and chrissy get lost in the woods
who deleted my macaroni and gravy post?>
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Post by: Wolfman on March 12, 2006, 10:08:31 pm
We ordered HBO tonight just so we could watch this...
I could go off about all the cool things that happened, but let\'s cut right to the chase. There were only 5 seconds of this episode that mattered. That would be Meadow dancing at the beginning.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on March 12, 2006, 10:10:56 pm
Minimal excitement. Slapdash ending. Few laughs. Not enough Melfi, per usual. Marginal characters getting too much air time. It\'s hard to get enough lines for everyone when you have 85 people in your cast.
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Post by: Me! on March 12, 2006, 10:12:56 pm
didn\'t get a chance to watch this but a buddy DVRed it fro me, too much anticipation?
not enough in the end??
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Post by: Overexjoesure on March 12, 2006, 10:24:58 pm
The "circle jerk of life" had me on the floor in hysterics. Ginny Sacks didn\'t look so bad without all the makeup ;)
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Post by: davepeck on March 13, 2006, 09:48:49 am
not a fantastic episode, but i liked it a lot for an opener. LOVED the ending, especially with the lack of previews for next week. fantastically done. agree with pitchie about the huge cast, but damn it\'s good to have this show back.
i can\'t think of any other show that i\'ve ever watched where i\'m constantly looking over at the clock. fastest hour on television (though this ep was surprisingly short). i was giddy in the moments leading up to the opening credits. it\'s about fucking time!
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Post by: SlimPickens on March 13, 2006, 10:13:14 am
Loved it! Can anyone tell me what Junior said before he dropped that bomb last night?
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Post by: davepeck on March 13, 2006, 10:27:54 am
Quote from: SlimPickens
Loved it! Can anyone tell me what Junior said before he dropped that bomb last night?
hoo haa Malenga
also, while i\'m skeptical about them doing it this early in the season, next week is set up perfectly to be a \'dream sequence\' episode. with the way they ended this one, and the lack of previews, it does make sense.. hmm...
thought the dream sequences were \'meh\', per usual.. but the rest of the ep was pretty strong and moving. a lot of setup going on. not sure how i feel about a tony-less sopranos though. Anakin Soprano anyone? i think it became clear last night that AJ is gonna follow in Tony\'s footsteps - first with the comment about putting a bullet in June\'s head, then with the flunking out of school.. not sure how much they can do with that in the remaining 18 episodes though..
next week looks promising. i think all hell is gonna break loose with Tony out of the picture for a while.. it\'ll be interesting to see what Vito has in store for Meadow\'s boyfriend when he comes back as well..
Van Helsing :lol:
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Post by: ChrisPitch on March 20, 2006, 11:22:29 am
Obviously, leaps and bounds above the previous week. An emotional powerhouse. Edie Falco earns the Emmy. However, the dream sequences hampered continuity and weren\'t funny enough to make the episode an all-time classic. But at least we\'re back in the ballpark now. There was more juice in the first 20 minutes of this episode than all of the previous one.
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Post by: freddiewaht on March 20, 2006, 03:58:08 pm
IT\'S NOT a dream. It\'s Purgatory.
When I had my annual summit with "Sopranos" creator David Chase a few weeks ago, I complimented him on having the onions to put a major dream sequence like this so early in the season, considering how many fans complain about the dreams.
"I, frankly, would not call those (episode two scenes) dreams," he said, which sent me scurrying back to watch my DVD over and over again, until (with some help from my wife) I got it.
Here Tony\'s stuck in Orange County, quite possibly the most personality-free corner of the world, with no way to leave (a k a Purgatory). On one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell). Over and over, he stops to assess the worth of his own life, asking, "Who am I? Where am I going?"
Then he steals the identity (sin) of Kevin Finnerty -- a heating salesman who lives in one of the hottest states of the union (Arizona) -- checks into another hotel, and falls down a red staircase, at which point he learns he has Alzheimer\'s (eternal damnation). And while Carmela\'s busy in the real world telling him he\'s not going to Hell, Tony\'s in Purgatory debating whether to tell his wife this is exactly the fate he has in store.
It may be hair-splitting to call this something other than a dream, but Tony\'s misadventures in Costa Mesa were much more linear and coherent than his regular dreams have ever been. There were important details scribbled in the margins (the bartender joking, "Around here, it\'s dead," or the "Are sin, disease and death real?" commercial on the TV), but there was an actual story here instead of Tony bouncing from one surreal tableau to another.
Still, Chase followed last week\'s watercooler cliffhanger with an 11-minute opening sequence set in a world that\'s not our own, with a Tony who wasn\'t quite right (it\'s startling to hear James Gandolfini\'s natural speaking voice), and only one split-second nod to the shooting (the brief flash of the doctor shining a light in Tony\'s eye mixed in with the chopper spotlight).
For years, most of "Sopranos" fandom has been divided into two intersecting sets: those who watch for the whacking and crude humor, and those who watch for the psychiatry and art-house storytelling. By putting the shooting right next to Tony\'s afterlife business trip, Chase is pushing his chips to the center of the table and telling the audience they had better go all in -- murder and therapy, flatulence jokes and metaphysics -- if they intend to stay at the table for this final season.
So will Tony ever get to check out of this hotel, and, if so, where will he end up? Again, I can\'t say, but if this season is going to be about a moral accounting for all of Tony\'s sins, then there\'s no better place to start.
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Post by: chooglincharley on March 20, 2006, 05:04:55 pm
its been good so far
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Post by: Wolfman on March 20, 2006, 06:32:26 pm
There is no way freddie wrote that.
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Post by: Gfunk on March 20, 2006, 06:46:12 pm
i didn\'t dig this episode that much. i noticed the purgatory symbolism and thats all well and good but this episode was not that interesting for me. looking forward to next sunday.
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Post by: Me! on March 25, 2006, 04:32:34 pm
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Silvio divides the spoils from Paulie\'s latest score, and heads off a territorial impasse between Bobby and Vito. Carmela turns to an unexpected source for help with AJ; Christopher turns to an old writing acquaintance, JT Dolan, for help in a new venture. Don\'t miss the all new episode of The Sopranos, "Mayham", Sunday, March 26th at 9pm.
Can\'t wait......
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Post by: Gfunk on March 26, 2006, 06:57:40 pm
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Carmela turns to an unexpected source for help with AJ
that could be interesting. best part of last week\'s episode was when aj says something along the lines of "i\'m gonna put a bullet in that fucking mummy\'s head"
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Post by: Gordo on March 26, 2006, 10:21:02 pm
interesting episode.. an intense moment with Tony deciding whether or not to go into the Finnerty Family Reunion. i wonder how much hes going to remember and talk about as he heals. he mightve missed his only chance for heaven, and was Buscemi the host b/c they were just showing him as the best example (of all previously wacked/part of the business) that actually had a ticket to heaven? and pauly\'s voice being the reason for him touching death? hmmm...
im excited to see where tony\'s psyche goes from here.
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Post by: Gfunk on March 26, 2006, 10:56:26 pm
:banghead: so pissed i missed tonights episode. better then last week?
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Post by: Wolfman on March 27, 2006, 12:05:58 am
Quote from: Gfunk
:banghead: so pissed i missed tonights episode. better then last week?
Yeah it was. P.S. We live in the wonderful age of On Demand. It\'s not like you missed the episode forever like with most shows. You can watch this episode whenever you want. If you don\'t have HBO find someone who does and borrow their TV for an hour.
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Post by: Gfunk on March 27, 2006, 12:38:41 am
yeah dude that was the plan, to go to my friends house who has the headie hbo hookup. thats what i did for the last two episodes, but the wanker wouldn\'t answer his phone today. guess he didn\'t feel like sharing tonight
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Post by: davepeck on March 27, 2006, 08:34:24 am
thought it was a great episode. great to see everything in the dream sequence become more clear, confirming the purpose of the monks, the light, the briefcase, etc. *really* enjoyed the dream portion this week.
everyone\'s actions while tony was laid up were very telling. what with the jab chris took at tony (boss porking the guy\'s fiance), paulie & vito\'s (and even bobby\'s) selfishness.. hell, seems like sil\'s the only truely loyal one of the bunch..
tony\'s \'vegetable\' state was great, and edie falco had another fantastic performance.
while i don\'t know if i really agree with tony popping back after 2 weeks, the show needs him. there\'s just a certain edge that isn\'t there when he\'s not in action.
as for the "reunion" - awesome. though buscemi was listed in the credits as "man", i believe his role was "Death", and it was great to see him trying to talk tony into giving him the briefcase, since tony basically took his briefcase when he pulled the trigger of that shotgun.
the fleeting glimpse of livia at the reunion was also a great touch. the whole reunion thing could have been great season finale material, but being so early in the season, you just knew tony wasn\'t going inside.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
edit: oh yeah, paulie clipping coupons = rotfl
"Ghostbusters! Another fucking money machine!"
"My fuckin\' BALLS!!" :D
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on March 27, 2006, 08:58:49 am
the whole moive speech/discussion was amazing, i hadnt laughed that hard since the 2 hour AD finale!
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 09:39:04 am
great episode... Really thought they were gonnna kill him off for a second there,(yelling at the TV don\'t give the briefcase Tony nooooooo!) I would have been so pissed @ HBO/David Chase, I agree the show is missin somehting without Tiny, Paulie sucks, Bobbi sucks, Vito sucks, Sil is the man!
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on March 27, 2006, 09:51:23 am
chris is also the man!
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 09:56:35 am
Chris is gona get in alot of trouble when Tony is alittle more "awake", it amazes me how inconsiderate everyne has been with their timing, Sil\'s being pulled into an ambulance and Bobby is trying to talk business with him, while parked in front of the ambulance :doh: everthing is falling down around us here
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 27, 2006, 10:15:21 am
I don\'t think that was heaven Buscemi wanted him to enter. I think Tony seeing his mother pass by the door way might have made him realize that the house might be hell. After all, from what we\'ve seen of them why would you believe Livia, and Tony B. (yeah I know he wasn\'t officially Tony B.) would wind up in heaven? I also noticed that these are two family members he tried to do right by, but caused him alot of grief. I think heaven was the convention/meeting he tried to get into, but was deined access in the first purgatory episode. I think the General (authority figure) he wanted to try to talk to may have represented God or more likely St. Peter. The whole I.D. confusion, is that Tony never really considered himself a bad guy, so he balks at being confronted for Finnirty\'s(his) sins. He has one last chance to confess and repent with the Monk situation, but he refuses to acknowledge his wrong doings, thus he\'s sent to Hell just like every other Soprano (family reunion). I think the I.D. confusion also represents that many of his evils are generated from the family he was born into. Carmela laments her own children\'s fate with Dr. Melfi, and nature vs. nuture is a recurring Melfi theme. We see who he would be if born into another life. What is so important about the Monks, is they represent not only the innocent he has harmed in life and often turned a blind eye to, but people he hurt as Finnirty. Essentially the sins he committed that his upbringing can not be held accountable for. So much more that just a "mob" show.
Thanks to Freddiewaht for the Alzheimers=Eternal damnation theory. I didn\'t get that one at all, but I think you\'re right.
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 10:22:18 am
wow it\'s too early in the morning, for me to analyze anything that deeply
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on March 27, 2006, 10:26:30 am
some great discussion here, i know i\'m in the minority, but i wish the lynch-esque dream kept going!
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 10:59:38 am
I definatly was diggging on the "dream" sequences, but they took it as far as they could I think. I remember looking at the clock @ about ten of and was thinking god are they gonna drag this out into another episode, I\'m ready to get back to business
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Post by: davepeck on March 27, 2006, 11:42:24 am
Quote from: Wolfman
I don\'t think they showed it, but the beacon in the distance was surely coming from the Finnerty Reunion. They both represent heaven.
exactly what i was just gonna post. tony even asked "what is that anyways?" when he was getting directions to the reunion. tony had his eye on it since the last episode.
also, tony b wasn\'t *in* heaven. he was outside, trying to get tony to go in. which is why i think his role was "Death".
"my entire life was in that briefcase."
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Post by: Wolfman on March 27, 2006, 11:50:19 am
Quote from: davepeck
Quote from: Wolfman
I don\'t think they showed it, but the beacon in the distance was surely coming from the Finnerty Reunion. They both represent heaven.
exactly what i was just gonna post. tony even asked "what is that anyways?" when he was getting directions to the reunion. tony had his eye on it since the last episode.
Hmmm...Mr. Coyote makes a compelling case for the reunion actually being hell. I\'m not read up enough on Dante or The Bible to make direct comparisons so I\'m pretty much working on my own devices here. I\'m pretty certain the reunion was heaven, at least for Finnerty. Just because Finnerty was getting in doesn\'t mean Tony Soprano would. Like Coyote said, the whole dream may just represent what Tony could have been in another life path. And Finnerty choosing not to go into the reunion (Heaven) may represent Tony Soprano choosing not to go down the good path in reality.
"My entire life was in that briefcase" = very Pulp Fiction esque. Are Tony Soprano and Marcellus Wallace THE SAME PERSON?!?!?!?!
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 12:03:07 pm
I dont know it seemed to "bright" and white to be hell, I\'d say heaven or Tony\'s version there of. I like the Pulp Fiction comparison Wolf.
although I couldn\'t tell who was standing in the door waitning for him ot come in, it might of been his mother in which case it\'s hard to say it\'s heaven
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Post by: wildcoyote on March 27, 2006, 01:23:25 pm
Alright, I\'ll buy DavePecks\'s point that most likely Buscemi is the Angel of Death. It\'s kind of a scary thought that someone from your life with good reason to hate you will be your angel of death. (Unless it\'s Steve Buscemi for everyone, which is pretty scary in it\'s own right). Other than the undeserving souls present, two other questions to why it might not be heaven: 1. If Tony still gets into heaven, is my take on the Monks way off? Especially that on who states "then we will have to proceed" when Tony refuses to attone for their grievance.
2. Of course the reunion looks nice on the outside! How would they get anyone in if it were all fire and brimstone out there? (It\'s like the strip club that makes you pay the cover before you can see the girls inside are old nasty) Tony is suspicous as well, he tries to see what\'s inside but can\'t. Also Angel of Death/Tony B. is giving him the hard sell on that briefcase. Any time someone tries to rush your decesion process, and discourages you thinking things over, they don\'t have your best interest in mind.
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2006, 01:31:11 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote
Alright, I\'ll buy DavePecks\'s point that most likely Buscemi is the Angel of Death. It\'s kind of a scary thought that someone from your life with good reason to hate you will be your angel of death. (Unless it\'s Steve Buscemi for everyone, which is pretty scary in it\'s own right).
:lol: I think even after all that happened between them, there was an understanding between them. Even though it was only for a second, I though you could see it on his face when Tony shot him. And really Tony saved him from a much worse fate....
Quote from: wildcoyote
Other than the undeserving souls present, two other questions to why it might not be heaven: 1. If Tony still gets into heaven, is my take on the Monks way off? Especially that on who states "then we will have to proceed" when Tony refuses to attone for their grievance.
2. Of course the reunion looks nice on the outside! How would they get anyone in if it were all fire and brimstone out there? (It\'s like the strip club that makes you pay the cover before you can see the girls inside are old nasty) Tony is suspicous as well, he tries to see what\'s inside but can\'t. Also Angel of Death/Tony B. is giving him the hard sell on that briefcase. Any time someone tries to rush your decesion process, and discourages you thinking things over, they don\'t have your best interest in mind.
valid very good point.......
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Post by: RadicalRich1138 on March 27, 2006, 02:06:33 pm
tony\'s mom = in hell! but was it her?
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Post by: phirehead on March 27, 2006, 03:01:52 pm
I\'m going to throw my .02 in here & say that I didn\'t consider (until reading what everyone else wrote) this "reunion" to be heaven OR hell, but simply, the other side. I just keep thinking of Tony hearing Meadow\'s voice calling to him, kind of bringing back to the land of the living.
I thought bringing Tony B. back, with him trying to get the briefcase, was a fantastical way to bring all these dreams to a close & pull it all together. And my take on the woman turning around in the doorway was that it was Tony\'s mother.
Vito needs to get whacked pronto. Syl rocks. Chris is going to get himself into a whole heap of trouble. And I love how Paulie\'s talking to Tony & in Tony\'s dream he\'s banging on the wall telling the guy to shut up.
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Post by: Wolfman on March 27, 2006, 11:05:58 pm
I have thought about this all day and I have reached a final, definite, and indisputable conclusion...
Marcellus Wallace and Tony Soprano are definitely the exact same person. Furthermore, it was actually James Gandolfini who played Marcellus.
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Post by: Gfunk on March 27, 2006, 11:34:08 pm
:wah: You\'re absolutely right wolf, i cant believe i never noticed before.
on a side note, i\'m still pissed i missed lastnights epi
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Post by: ChrisPitch on March 28, 2006, 11:17:30 am
Excellent episode with yet another strong performance by Falco, especially while in the patient\'s chair. The movie business subplot looks interesting, it was great to see Silvio get a major piece of the story, and I too loved the greed-driven nature of the episode. One week everyone is worried about their fallen leader, but it\'s right back to business the next week. I also liked the return, and subsequent closing, of the coma dreams. The way it all wrapped up was very well done.
As far as that house: it could be heaven with the light, but then again, those lights could signify fire so perhaps it\'s hell, or considering the mixed message, even purgatory. Of course, I don\'t believe that any of that exists, but for the purposes of this show and conversation, I vote strict afterlife with no leanings towards one extreme or the other.
My favorite line was delivered by Phil Leotardo: "With Johnny awaitin\' trial, and the feds freezin\' his assets, who do you think is keepin\' Ginny in butter brickle?"
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Post by: Me! on March 30, 2006, 06:04:36 pm
saw an ad where Tony was up and around in the hospital, right back to business. Is it me or does this seem to have happened very quickly, alittle too quickly.
(i don\'t have HBO so sorry if this is old news)
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Post by: davepeck on March 30, 2006, 06:17:48 pm
Quote from: davepeck
while i don\'t know if i really agree with tony popping back after 2 weeks, the show needs him. there\'s just a certain edge that isn\'t there when he\'s not in action.
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Post by: Me! on March 30, 2006, 06:22:52 pm
I def agree that he is needed back but at the end of the last episode he still looked like he didn\'t have all of his shit together, I thought they might try and drag all this hospital shit out for another episode. Very glad he\'s back.... just wondering how plausible it all is, one minute he\'s gonna hav ebrain damage, the next he\'s back to the same ole shit.
Maybe it\'ll end up like Dallas and the entire last season is a dream
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Post by: davepeck on March 30, 2006, 07:28:37 pm
Quote from: Me!
I def agree that he is needed back but at the end of the last episode he still looked like he didn\'t have all of his shit together, I thought they might try and drag all this hospital shit out for another episode. Very glad he\'s back.... just wondering how plausible it all is, one minute he\'s gonna hav ebrain damage, the next he\'s back to the same ole shit.
thing is, they can have the time between episodes be however long they want it to be. just cause it\'s a week for us, doesn\'t mean it\'s a week on the show..
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Post by: Me! on March 30, 2006, 07:30:05 pm
^^valid, I guess I\'ll see on Sun. Should be another great one...
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Post by: ChrisPitch on March 31, 2006, 12:33:51 am
To a certain extent, all Caucasians look alike.
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Post by: Me! on March 31, 2006, 10:58:57 am
Quote from: ChrisPitch
To a certain extent, all Caucasians look alike.
huh???
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Post by: Spacey on March 31, 2006, 11:01:10 am
Quote from: ChrisPitch
To a certain extent, all Caucasians look alike.
I guess, they are all caucasians...
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Post by: davepeck on March 31, 2006, 11:11:03 am
Quote from: Me!
Quote from: ChrisPitch
To a certain extent, all Caucasians look alike.
huh???
one of the monks said that in the last episode.
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Post by: Me! on March 31, 2006, 11:13:04 am
Quote from: davepeck
Quote from: Me!
Quote from: ChrisPitch
To a certain extent, all Caucasians look alike.
huh???
one of the monks said that in the last episode.
:thumbsup: you guys don\'t miss anything eh?
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Post by: ChrisPitch on March 31, 2006, 11:21:09 am
It\'s a line in the recent episode from when Tony is at the monastery. I also liked Silvio\'s theory about Michael Myers as opposed to Freddy and Jason in addition to Paulie breaking Vito\'s balls: "Have a cookie, you\'re delirious," and "I gotta take a piss. You want half of that too." Thought this episode had the most laughs out of the three, a feat considering the overall dramatic subject matter.
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Post by: davepeck on April 03, 2006, 08:54:48 am
subtle, but good episode. loved the ending. seems like each episode this season has given a different character the spotlight, and paulie was great last night. thought he was gonna whack \'Ma\' for sure..
it\'ll be interesting to see how tony\'s new outlook plays out, or how long it will last.. letting the paramedic off, then quick to settle on a deal with johnny.. i have a feeling he won\'t be so calm if he finds out about paulie though....
it was a nice sentiment for bobby to kick a little up to tony for his side job.. he obviously feels bad about playing with his trains while junior shot tony..
end credits - :thumbsup:
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Post by: Me! on April 03, 2006, 09:58:55 am
It wasn\'t bad but easily my least favorite of the new season. But it\'s hard to live up to some of the hardcore emotional episodes that started the season. Like Dave said subtle but good. Oh, and Paulie should be whacked any tiem noe, I havnn\'t like him since atleast last season but now he\'s really in for it. When you saw him crying you were like ok he gets it thsi woman raised and loved him. But then he pulled that shit with the kid form the sanitation company. His days are def numbered
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Post by: Wolfman on April 03, 2006, 10:47:20 pm
Paulie is nuts. Walnuts. Kinda slow episode but it set up a lot of stuff and next week\'s preview looked most tantalizing. I feel like Eppy II was mainly to set up Eppy III for the kill, and now Eppy IV has Eppy V right where it needs to be. And speaking of Eppy IV, when the fuck is The Breakfast gonna play this song? I heard it totally rocks...
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Post by: davepeck on April 04, 2006, 07:52:35 am
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on April 04, 2006, 09:55:21 am
^^:lol:
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Post by: Me! on April 06, 2006, 04:43:58 pm
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Tony hires a new bodyguard and Johnny files a petition to attend his daughter\'s wedding. Don\'t miss this week\'s episode, Mr. and Mrs. Sacrimoni request, Sunday, April 9th at 9 pm ET.
should be interesting..................... per usual
also new seasons of Deadwood (YES!!!) and Entourage in June.....
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Post by: ChrisPitch on April 08, 2006, 07:36:11 pm
The Paulie plot made this episode for me as I thought it was the finest job of acting of Tony Sirico\'s career. The stuff with baby Barone was good in that it created conflict with New York, and though the ending was a bit predictable, it tied in well with Paulie\'s feelings towards his mother/aunt. I like how he feels enough for her to pay the $4000 for her nursing home, but resents her enough that he won\'t foot the bill himself, hence the need to shake down Barone. A solid ending made for a quality episode that I felt was better than the first, but not as strong as ones with the coma dreams. The stuff with Bobby and the rappers was funny, but seemed like a waste of time: an excuse to give him anything to do other than play with his trains.
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Post by: Gordo on April 09, 2006, 10:31:19 pm
hopefully vito dies by choking on a cock next episode. i want him out now. not only does he have an extremely annoying character to play, but he is the worst actor *imo* on the show.
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Post by: davepeck on April 10, 2006, 01:49:09 pm
hmm.. i liked this episode.. i really did.. but i have to say that imo, it was the weakest of the season so far - which is sort of ironic, since the episode was all about weakness.. but again, i did like it.. just think it\'s been a really above-average season so far..
wonder what will come of Vito. i don\'t think he\'s dead, as i don\'t think they\'d pull the suicide angle twice in the first 5 episodes.. it\'s possible that he offed the 2 guys that saw him (after confirming with Sil that his secret hadn\'t leaked yet), though i\'m not sure he could handle that himself.. wondering if he\'ll just disappear now..
also, i like how Vito left a wedding in Great Neck near the end, drove to Jersey, left home, hung out at a gay bar, drove back home to get a gun, and got to a hotel to call Sil at 3am.. :hscratch:
i\'m sure Ginny woulda looked fantastic if she reached her goal.. it\'s really too bad she missed it! :lol:
absolutely loved the "mercy fuck" line.. hilarious..
they\'re really playing on Chris\' stupidity lately, and i can see him being brought up on a terror-related charge in the future...
finally, i have to question whether the Tony/muscles beatdown was a setup or not. doesn\'t seem like it was, because Tony was looking around the room to see who he was gonna go after, but let\'s be honest - Tony was one punch to the gut away from death, so that makes me wonder.. :chin:
my least favorite of the season so far, but still very good, and better then 99% of everything else on TV.
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Post by: Gordo on April 10, 2006, 01:59:36 pm
great recap dave. i agree with you on basically everything. the only reason why i think Vito has to be near the end is the fact that Tony\'s WIFE said he shouldnt trust him. now that hes pulling some shady behavior and tony is forcing himself to get gritty again, vito should buckle and get whacked if he doesnt do it himself. but yeah, 2 suicides in 5 episodes is a bit much.
i dont think Tony\'s beatdown was a setup. the way he looked at everyones arms was just showing his decision to finally pick a fight with the biggest bad ass in the room. realistic beatdown?? helll no, but i was cheerin for him internally.
and yes, the "mercy fuck" comment was absolutely classic.
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Post by: wildcoyote on April 10, 2006, 02:17:16 pm
Quote from: Gordo
realistic beatdown?? helll no, but i was cheerin for him internally.
Perception vs. reality. I\'ve spent years as bouncer and I see steriod inflated pseudo-tough guys like that get it handed to them so often I don\'t even laugh out loud anymore when it happens. What did have me laughing out loud was when Carmela said something about being glad Tony had someone to protect him, and "Muscles" mentioned being Mr. Teen NJ. I thought it was just hilarious. What the hell does being a body builder have to do with knowing how to fight? If he said he was NJ\'s Golden Gloves Champion or a 3rd Degree Black Belt it would have been another story. With an answer like that I saw a beat down coming his way.
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Post by: Gordo on April 10, 2006, 02:21:42 pm
i was just viewing it unrealistic because tony cant tie his shoes without gasping for air.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Overexjoesure on April 10, 2006, 02:40:56 pm
My dad said he thought the fight was staged beforehand, that Tony probably paid his bodyguard to take a beating, however if you saw the camera shots of every man\'s muscle, you saw that Tony was looking for the "toughest" motherfucker in the room. He was merely re-establishing himself as the Alpha Male (Melfi mentioned it earlier in a session), yet was obviously disgusted with his actions. I loved it.... I thought it was interesting how in the preview for last night\'s episode they edited to seem like Philly was talking about Tony being the weak one.
As for Vito...
"What does a guy gotta do around here to buy you a drink?"
(lick)
"You Just did."
ROFL LMFAO
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Post by: Gfunk on April 10, 2006, 05:44:52 pm
intense blood puking at the end. i dont think tony is all that well.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on April 10, 2006, 05:51:16 pm
D00d he\'s Italian, do you really think that was blood?
More likely it was this: (http://www.redgold.com/products/images/redpack/rp_tomato_sauce.gif)
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Post by: Gfunk on April 10, 2006, 06:04:48 pm
rotfl Good Call! maybe a combonation of blood and baked ziti. that would be a whole lotta blood to ralph up. :yack2:
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Post by: ChrisPitch on April 11, 2006, 11:28:38 am
My favorite of this season.
Solid conflict between NJ and NY; Tony back in business, yet still ailing, then very much back in business in a great ending that displayed non-gratuitous violence; humor with Vito the Leatherman (who i think will kill those two guys and not himself); and Melfi and Junior in the same episode, what a concept.
I also liked that they based this episode around Johnny Sack. He\'s not a main character with whom we\'ve traveled this road before so the material wasn\'t stagnant, but he\'s not a virtual unkown like Eugene Pontecorvo from earlier this season so the plot was highly engrossing. For me to have sympathy for Sack, which i did at the end of the wedding, is a great accomplishment that defines the show\'s brilliance: making the viewer feel bad for a character who shouldn\'t be likable, considering the horrific acts inherent in his work. I love when the show echoes season one without blatantly stealing from it.
Other things that intrigued me: Tony telling Meadow about the significance of her having grandkids, Tony\'s struggles during the metal detection, and Tony and Sack talking business at the old folks\' dinner table. I also liked how the four underlings nearly toppled over each other while rushing to scoop out the onions from Tony\'s bialy. And I felt the choice of that doo-wop song was perfect for the closing credits.
Marvelous effort from writer Terence Winter, who also penned the season opener, and director and Steve "Angel of Death Blundetto" Buscemi.
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Post by: Wolfman on April 12, 2006, 10:38:21 pm
Wolfman\'s fabulous odds for Sopranos characters to die this season:
Vito - 1:3 Johnny Sack - 3:1 Paulie - 7:2 Chris - 4:1 Tony - 5:1 Junior - 6:1 Phil Leotardo - 10:1 Sil - 15:1 Meadow - 50:1 Carmella - 100:1 Melfi - 250:1
Odds on other plot twists:
AJ Kills Junior: 25:1
Chris rats out everyone to avoid a life bid: 50:1
Johnny Sack escapes, seeks vengeance on his police escort from the wedding: 250:1
Tony becomes an FBI informant: 500:1
Meadow is pregnant with Vito\'s child: 1,000,000:1
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Post by: Gfunk on April 12, 2006, 10:49:43 pm
Quote from: Wolfman
Meadow is pregnant with Vito\'s child: 1,000,000:1
:lol:
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Post by: davepeck on April 17, 2006, 08:42:53 am
great episode. hilarious.. definitely funniest of the season, possibly all-time. great writing.. found myself \'rooting\' for Vito The Fat Homo (as Imus calls him) quite a bit..
"He\'s a faaaaaa-aaaaag" rotfl
Maybe it\'s a mid-life thing. Suckin\' cock? :lol:
loved the nod to The L Word - :point: "Is she a lesbian in real life?"
the scene with Fin in Satriale\'s was my favorite of the episode.. he was practically shitting himself.. loved how tony sent him off to have a nice sub and a soda! :lol:
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Post by: SlimPickens on April 17, 2006, 10:10:43 am
Vito\'s one of my best producers. He\'s a come from behind guy... errrr...
Ohhhhhh!!! You mean he was catchin\', not pitchin\' OHhhhhh!!
When Vito was talking about greasin\' the unions, who knew?!
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Post by: davepeck on April 18, 2006, 07:42:07 am
Johnny Cakes (http://cake.allrecipes.com/az/JohnnyCake.asp)
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Post by: Gordo on April 18, 2006, 01:15:53 pm
Quote from: davepeck
Johnny Cakes (http://cake.allrecipes.com/az/JohnnyCake.asp)
ha!
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 22, 2006, 08:45:15 pm
Another strong episode as the Sopranos continues delving into territory previously uncharted by television and movies. Vito’s outing creates tremendous conflict as Tony is forced to make a crucial decision with everyone else having already made up their minds. Melfi’s scene, which discusses getting a pass for jail sex, adds an interesting aspect of hypocrisy to the situation. I can’t wait to see how this resolves.
Meadow and Finn’s scenes—with the conversations about politics, crime, and justice—were also great.
In other news, I cannot think of a subplot less interesting than Carmela’s ill-fated housing project. And I’m not exactly doing summersaults over the potential of Angie Bonpensiero\'s mafia career.
Still, I was glad to see the season debut of writers Robin Green and Mitchell Burgess, who have worked together on many of the show\'s finest episodes.
Overall, the first half of this season has featured some quality material and what’s happened recently sets it up well for a home stretch that should have some classics.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on April 25, 2006, 10:55:03 am
I did not like it whatsoever. I feel it was one of the worst Sopranos episodes ever, weaker than this season\'s opener.
If you\'re a fan who gets into the actual mafia dealings, you were left empty-handed this week. The episode starts off with Phil badmouthing Vito and you think this episode is a natural continuation of the high drama from the last two weeks. The next thing I know I\'m looking at watches with Ben Kingsley. I don\'t get it.
It\'s nice to get Artie involved, but when he has twice as many lines as Tony, the episode can only be so good. And the show\'s large cast continues to hurt. 0 scenes or lines this week for: Paulie, A.J., Meadow, Finn, Melfi, Junior, and Vito.
I mean, what are the long-term implications of what happened this week? What does it mean in the show\'s big picture? Not much I think. And that makes it worse.
One somewhat interesting side note: show creator David Chase makes a wordless cameo on the airplane when the Italian hitmen are flying back home.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on May 01, 2006, 12:12:09 am
are all the season 6 episodes so far available on demand or no? I just finished season 5 and am thinking about getting hbo if i canm catch up on demand
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Post by: Me! on May 01, 2006, 10:27:50 am
yeah they show up on on demand the next day
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Post by: davepeck on May 01, 2006, 10:56:51 am
last week was definitely an \'off\' episode. while i liked the concept of the episode, i didn\'t like the context. felt very out of place to me.
this week was fantastic, and seemed to really get back to this season. finally checked back in with vito.. i thought his scenes were great.. "what i like to do is, i try to retrace my steps." i was caught off guard when he beat up johnny cakes in the parking lot, but his explanation made sense. calling home was probably a stupid move though.
AJ was MONEY this episode. fantastic from beginning to end. the blockbuster scene was great - reminded me of clerks.. AJ is facing a lot of pressure and expectations being the son of Tony Soprano, so he\'s trying hard to be something he\'s not.. from his miserable attempt at taking Junior\'s life, to picking up an $1800+ bar tab, even though he\'s barely getting by. in the end, he unintentionally ends up being just like Tony, while flat on his back in the restroom after a panic attack. i\'m guessing that this condition is inherited, though the actual cause will be masked by his cocaine use. very interested to see what happens to AJ in the weeks to come..
was interesting to see the \'new Tony\' apparently sell out for a piece of ass, and then pass up on said ass. the \'new Tony\' gets a lot of credit for passing up on Julianna Margulies, though it seemed pretty obvious when Carm was dressing him before he left. loved how Tony was miserable when he got home, throwing a fit about the smoked turkey. :thumbsup: pretty much a 180 after praising her in his therapy sessions..
i\'d have to say this was one of the best episodes of what has been a GREAT season so far.
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Post by: Me! on May 01, 2006, 11:04:24 am
AJ trying to kill Junior was just pathetic, dropping the knife, I mean come on! that shit was weak sauce. was def surprised by the sudden beating of Johnny cakes, or actually I guess Vito is the one who got his ass kicked. How does he explain that one to all the people in the bed and breakfast? I just dont\' like how he\'s suddenly transported into this homosexual heaven (a bunch of new england antiqueing(sp?) gay guys) all of a sudden just not very beleivable to me. his whole story line really isn\'t working for me, cause come on like he could really get that guy. you\'ve got the muscular firefighter/motorcyle rider/dinner guy and then vito the fat fuck, just not beleivable to me. Hasn\'t AJ had a panic attack before? and didn\'t tony\'s dad have them too?
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 01, 2006, 11:27:11 am
Quote from: Me!
he\'s suddenly transported into this homosexual heaven
NH=homo heaven rotfl
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 01, 2006, 11:32:04 am
In the third episode of the third season, "Fortunate Son," A.J. passes out during football practice, which it\'s fair to assume is a panic attack. That\'s the episode Tony references last night in regards to his father cutting off a guy\'s finger. It\'s all related: Tony remembers that childhood memory and how it applies to his own mental problems and then right at the end of the episode, BLAM!, A.J. falls out, showing how it runs in the family. And yes, Johnny Boy Soprano also had panic attacks, or "fits" as Hesh said they called them back in his day.
In any event, last night was tremendous, definitely my favorite episode of this season, and I will soon have comments aplenty.
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Post by: Wolfman on May 01, 2006, 11:48:35 am
Awesome espisode last night. Deep, dark storylines all over the place. Interesting how Tony instructs AJ not to tell Carmella about the knife incident right after Melfi tells Tony that him and Carmella need to be on the same page with everything regarding AJ. Loved the $1800 bar tab followed by AJ paying social dues to a midget. I agree with Pec in that last week felt really weird, like it was totally isolated from everything else. It seems like they wrote out the whole season, it came up one episode short, so they decided to write an epsiode that has nothing to do with anything else and bury it in week 6. I was psyched to see this week get down to business.
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Post by: Me! on May 01, 2006, 11:57:43 am
Quote from: ChrisPitch
definitely my favorite episode of this season,
really? I def liked it but I dont\' know if I would go that far. to each their own.....
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 01, 2006, 12:00:44 pm
Fair fair. I\'d like to hear some people\'s nominees for best and/or worst. This is a better conversation at the end of the season, but since we\'re on the subject. The last two episodes take care of both ends of it for me.
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Post by: Me! on May 01, 2006, 12:07:09 pm
I really liked the coma episodes, but I was always a sucker for the really over the top artsy dream episodes. I think it was the third to last of the 5th season where practically the whole episode is a dream sequence, is prob still my all time favorite episode
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 01, 2006, 12:29:17 pm
Ah yes, "The Test Dream," one of the Sopranos most experimental episodes. You gotta love John Heard, a.k.a., Vin Makazian, singing "Three Times a Lady."
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Post by: Me! on May 01, 2006, 12:31:01 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch
You gotta love John Heard, a.k.a., Vin Makazian, singing "Three Times a Lady."
what a weird but great moment
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 01, 2006, 12:35:51 pm
The midget AJ pays off lives in the New Haven area. I\'ve seen him at both Toad\'s and BAR. It was kind of funny seeing him on the Sopranos.
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Post by: davepeck on May 02, 2006, 08:35:53 am
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Artie Bucco, Drunk and Druggy Driver
Artie, who knew? Actor John Ventimiglia who plays tortured Vesuvio chef-owner Artie Bucco on The Sopranos was pulled over for a DWI and drug possession in Park Slope! The Post says the police pulled him over when they "spotted him with his headlights off and weaving in and out of the oncoming traffic lane on Seventh Avenue in Park Slope at around 1AM," and Ventimiglia admitted to having four glasses of wine in Manhattan before driving; later he claimed he had been drinking in LIC, and that he had been driving to find a parking spot. Oh, finding a parking spot in Park Slope sucks. But does that explain the Ziploc bag "with cocaine residue" found in his pocket? Ouch! Ventimiglia was arraigned on Monday; he was featured prominently in the second most recent episode, where he managed to put the hurt on Benny (who would have guessed that?) and show off his poor employee-relations skills. We\'ve liked his understated narration in Personal Velocity.
Since the Daily News did have any Sopranos cast member-getting-arrested news (the Post says the guy who plays Tony\'s bodyguard was arrested), their TV critics give "He Said, He Said" thoughts on the show - David Bianculli thinks the show is as epic as ever while Richard Huff think it sucks. We\'d have to say we\'re somewhere in between - sometimes it drags, but the characters are fascinating. Are you still watching?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Gfunk on May 02, 2006, 05:53:11 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote
Quote from: Me!
he\'s suddenly transported into this homosexual heaven
NH=homo heaven rotfl
Vito definately should have gone to Vermont.
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Post by: Whathefunk on May 02, 2006, 08:27:49 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote
The midget AJ pays off lives in the New Haven area. I\'ve seen him at both Toad\'s and BAR. It was kind of funny seeing him on the Sopranos.
u sure? lots of midgets look a like.....
having said that....i\'m no heightist/biggot (if thats a word) i think basically everyone who is of a certain race/height/hair color looks a like:duck:
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Post by: Me! on May 04, 2006, 06:10:32 pm
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Tony Embraces the "Old School"...Don\'t Miss Sunday\'s Episode
Christopher makes a surprise announcement, Paulie pays a price for cutting costs at an Italian Street Fair, and Tony embraces the "old school." Tune in for this week\'s all-new episode, "The Ride," Sunday, May 7th at 9 pm ET.
what kinda surprise could christopher have for us? that\'s a very interesting teaser......
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Post by: wildcoyote on May 05, 2006, 09:40:58 am
Quote from: Whathefunk
u sure? lots of midgets look a like.....
100% certain. I\'ve seen him at shows, and I\'m a little surprised no one else recognized him. If he\'s ever at a Breakfast show I\'ll be sure to point, scream, and act a fool.
Quote from: Davepeck
to a certain extent all caucasians look alike
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 07, 2006, 12:41:05 pm
So after a second viewing, I\'d like to reinforce how much I liked this episode. It\'s amazing what happens when you have three primary storylines working together.
As far as Vito, ok, maybe Johnny Cakes\'s child rescue at the fire was a little much, but this plot clearly needed to be advanced and I like how it juxtaposes the open-mindedness of his current setting with the narrow-mindedness of his previous one. Vito\'s phone call home was great.
A.J. is an immature idiot and I\'m glad that was dealt with on a literal level. I\'m also glad that he didn\'t kill Junior nor chicken out. He botched it and it makes sense that someone with no mafia chops would do such. He has no individuality; he\'s known strictly for being a Soprano and that\'s why his fantasy of what that means (like being like Michael Corleone) worked in this episode. He wanted to define himself by stepping up for the family when it was clearly not his responsibility, partly because he has no focus nor drive towards anything else. His scene with Tony outside the police station was one of the best in recent seasons.
I was waiting for Tony\'s "new outlook" to be put to the test by hoo haa (not Bonpensiero) and that was another strong point. The negotiation--both in regards to the sale of the store and sex--culminated tremendously with Tony thinking of Carm and walking away once Juliana started undoing the buttons near his scar, then with Patsy\'s great line to end the episode ("what the fuck is happening to this neighborhood?"). I also liked the ending choice of music and how the A.J. and Juliana plots were dealt with in scenes with Melfi and her shrink, Dr. Elliot Kupferberg.
Give credit to writers Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider, who are in their first seasons with the show and had previously written "The Fleshy Part of the Thigh," a decent episode with Paulie\'s motherly revelation and Tony\'s last days in the hospital, but not as good as this one in my estimation. Excellent work.
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Post by: Klout on May 07, 2006, 01:09:37 pm
well i got HBO and watched all the episodes up till the current. Seems pretty okay so far but not too crazy. I feel like they could be coming up with more interesting story lines at this point in the series. I would rather see Jersey and NY go to war or something exciting and major than vito\'s gay love affair with johny cakes in NH and tony being faithful to carm...big whoop.
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Post by: davepeck on May 08, 2006, 11:50:15 am
hey, i enjoyed the chris/tony \'old times\' stuff. that was fun. and hey, it was nice to see how the chris/tony meeting about adrianna went down 6 years ago when season 5 aired..
but most of this episode just had me :rolleyes:
in 5 minutes of air time, we meet chris\' new girl, find out she\'s pregnant with his kid, they elope, and they buy a house together. come on.
so many scenes that went NOWHERE left me :hscratch: - tony with the baby, the soldier meeting paulie, tony\'s useless visit with melfi.. meh.
christopher relapsed.. oh wait, they already did that 2 episodes ago.. but this time they tied it in with the chris/tony relationship angle.. whoop.
paulie continues to be a nuisance, and janice is still annoying.. bo-ring!
biggest thing that happened in this episode took about 8 seconds, and that was phil leaving johnny out of the loop on his vitamin deal with tony. that, coupled with the reaction to johnny\'s crying episode, makes it look like phil is positioning himself to take over for johnny.. and tony seems to agree..
3 episodes left before the break. the season has been great so far, but now is not the time to start bringing the lemons out. hope next week is better.
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Post by: Wolfman on May 08, 2006, 04:54:47 pm
^^^^ I generally agree, per usual. Want to know what\'s really weird? As soon as the episode was over, my roomate, who has been watching the whole season with me, says, "Wow, that was by far the best episode of the season." Are you kidding me? So now my problems are two-fold: I just watched a lousy Sopranos episode and my roomate has a crack problem. I told him I didn\'t think this was anything next to last week. I went off to bed, but, curiously, the roomate dialed up last week\'s episode and watched the whole thing again. Interesting.
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Post by: Whathefunk on May 08, 2006, 05:39:25 pm
Quote from: Wolfman
^^^^ I generally agree, per usual. Want to know what\'s really weird? As soon as the episode was over, my roomate, who has been watching the whole season with me, says, "Wow, that was by far the best episode of the season." Are you kidding me? So now my problems are two-fold: I just watched a lousy Sopranos episode and my roomate has a crack problem. I told him I didn\'t think this was anything next to last week. I went off to bed, but, curiously, the roomate dialed up last week\'s episode and watched the whole thing again. Interesting.
lol....i agree with the both of you, and for about half the episode i thought i missed a week or something, the whole thing just felt out of place. I did think that the Chris/Tony convo about adriana was one of the coolest things we\'ve seen yet this season tho.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 09, 2006, 12:16:14 pm
A tale of two episodes. I liked the first half and felt the Adrianna stuff needed to happen at some point this season. But clearly, the quick intro of Chris\'s new girl was stupid.
I lost interest with the whole ride thing in the second half. I did like how the festival was the backdrop for the entire episode and I was glad to see the story with Paulie\'s mother/aunt briefly brought back, but there wasn\'t any new ground shed with that, or Chris\'s drug problems. Although his heroin haze scene was well done, it was redundant after the relapse two weeks ago. And the quick shot of Juliana couldn\'t have been less neccessary.
All in all, average. Not my least favorite of the year, but hardly my favorite. I was interested and entertained at points of it, but the appeal tapered off way too much in the latter half.
Terence Winter also wrote the season opener, Members Only, which I thought stunk, and Mr. and Mrs. John Sacramoni Request, which I loved. The point is: where\'s the consistency, both with Terence Winter, and the show?
Way more misfires than you\'d like for a series with such an impressive résumé.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on May 09, 2006, 12:45:19 pm
pretty lame IMO
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Gfunk on May 14, 2006, 10:23:51 pm
tonight=meh but on the plus side the previews for next week looked really good. next week looks like we might finally get some action.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on May 17, 2006, 02:06:08 pm
A strong episode, among the season’s better ones. Perhaps the best-ever subplot involving Janice as her relationship with Tony and the entire family is further explored. Loved Tony’s childhood description of her along with his newfound respect for Janice for demonstrating the discipline that Bobby can’t. It was one of the rare times that Tony has ever respected Janice as she earns a house while Carm doesn’t earn hers as Tony fears that project will distract her from her motherly duties. Very well-written material. I’m glad that, at long last, it looks like Carm’s ordeal with the spec house is over, marking an end to perhaps the most unrewarding subplot in Sopranos history.
I enjoyed the advancing of Johnny Sack’s plot and the potential conflict this will create. He played it halfway. He didn’t flip, but he didn’t go to trial like a man so that makes for some interesting perceptions of him from his fellow mob members and at least puts forth the possibility that his days are numbered. Thought the scene with his brother-in-law was hilarious: “The coffee with the fuckin’ chicory.”
Also enjoyed the scenes with the landscaper, Sal Vitro. Great comic relief for an otherwise serious episode. “Maybe they stuck tasers on his balls and beat him mercilessly with a rubber hose. Ever think of that?” “No, but of course it makes sense.” Hilarious.
If there was any average part of this week’s episode I felt it was the Vito stuff, largely because I was not convinced that he’d leave, especially when it looked like he had finally carved out a halfway decent life up there. Sure it makes sense on the one hand because he misses his family and his old lifestyle, but I didn’t buy that breaking point would be the struggles of the carpenter’s job. That doesn’t seem like such a bad deal considering the potential disaster that awaits him in Jersey. Of course, him returning sets up the conflict that I’ve been waiting for in terms of how he’s “welcomed” by his cohorts and the decision that Tony and/or them will make in regards to his presence. But I just wanted to be better convinced that he’d leave at that exact moment.
One another negative tidbit: I mean, would it kill them to give A.J. and Junior one line in the two episodes following A.J.’s “attempt” at murder? I mean, is A.J. still a total fuckup? Has he made any strides towards a more productive life? Does Junior have any inkling as to what happened? Beats me.
Still, overall, I really liked this one, especially the understated ending with Tony’s sarcasm. The writer was Matthew Weiner, who had previously done “Mayham,” which is part two of Tony’s coma, which I loved, and “Luxury Lounge,” a.k.a., Artie’s Saga with Dead Rabbits. So once again, for me, each writer is on an every-other-episode-is-good basis.
This season has been good, but needs to finish with a pair of grand slams. It hasn’t earned any leeway. No bullshitting next week. No story about Hesh opening a deli. Let’s wrap it up strongly by delving into and then concluding the quality plots the show has created.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on May 17, 2006, 02:23:07 pm
The inner monologe of Vito\'s countdown to lunch is hilarious. I\'ve done just about the exact same thing at jobs I hated. Most notably a highway construction job. As for it being too much for him to bear, I have a friend who needs to grow up and get a legit job big time (doesn\'t everyone have at elast one?), but can\'t give up the easy money and his current lifestyle. He knows it\'s gonna fuck him eventually, but just can\'t grind it out w/ real job.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on May 17, 2006, 05:14:31 pm
“The coffee with the fuckin’ chicory.”
"now tell me about the chicory coffee"
:lol:rotfl:lol:
I def enjoyed this episode a good deal, not sure how I feel about Bobby getting all fucked up, alittle torn about the whole thing, I agree Chris, would he really left? Once your gone stay gone.
A good season but I feel like alot of things are being left unfinished.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on May 22, 2006, 12:10:31 pm
pitchie used this line about another episode this season, but this was definitely a tale of 2 episodes for me.
throw paris out the window. it was dull, slow, uninteresting, and took up way too much of the episode. the only 2 good things to come of the whole trip were:
a) carm dreaming about adrianna again (you know something is gonna come of this) b) tony putting his foot down with AJ.
in a conversation with pitchie about last week\'s episode, i said, "vito\'s probably gonna die soon..", to which he replied, "im not sold on vito dying". mark that down as the first time i\'ve been right on a sopranos prediction in the history of the show. :) guess i woulda borrowed money from him too! he\'ll be missed, but it had to happen, and the reprecussions from the WAY it happened are gonna be huge. hell, they\'ve already started with one of the most graphic killings the show has ever seen (though the knock to vito\'s head made me cringe as well).
i thought it was hilarious to have phil come out of the closet for the encounter with vito. :lol:
carlo\'s reaction when tony walked in was great - \'sil hit him first!\'. rotfl
it was interesting that carm brought up to tony how she was going to make it a point to say \'i love you\' more often, but all she could say on the phone from paris was \'i miss you\'.
i really enjoyed the tony/melfi interaction this week, as well as the tony/AJ garage scene.
meadow\'s news seemed very random and out of place. other than that and paris, i really enjoyed this episode, and it really looks like it will be the \'turning point\' for what is to come in the final 9 episodes. i was pissed to find out about the 2-week wait at first, but i\'ll be at pearl jam next sunday night, so i wouldn\'t have been able to see it anyways.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on May 22, 2006, 01:09:27 pm
There is no way AJ survives to the end of the show. Absolutely no way. His death is the spark that sends the show to it\'s reeling end.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on May 22, 2006, 01:16:23 pm
Quote from: davepeck
throw paris out the window. it was dull, slow, uninteresting, and took up way too much of the episode. the only 2 good things to come of the whole trip were:
a) carm dreaming about adrianna again (you know something is gonna come of this) b) tony putting his foot down with AJ.
the whole paris trip was stupid and hardly necessary, but for some reason in the back of my mind i thought that something big was going to happen..like carmella was going to run into furio at the restaurant or something. oh well.
aj is a little shit and tony should kick his ass IMO. carmella treats him like a baby way too much. i liked the scene at the end with tony threatening him with construction/whatever manual labor and fucking up his car.
it is my prediction that phil leotardo will get killed in the last episode. he has to die.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on May 27, 2006, 05:11:04 pm
what the FUNK episode 76 is STILL not available on demand. :banghead:
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on May 29, 2006, 01:33:53 am
AJ = Dunzo
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 04, 2006, 07:58:36 pm
Well, well, well. We\'re just over an hour away from the finale of Season 6 for The Sopranos, which at one time, was easily the best show on television.
As far as we go right now, the most recent episode was good, but hardly indicative of the classic standards that have been set for its penultimate episodes in past seasons.
After Tony\'s shooting was the primary plot for the season\'s first half, the show took a risk by having the story of Vito, who up until recently was a fringe character, be the primary plot for the second half. Although I\'ve been accurately quoted as saying "I\'m not sold on Vito dying," that doesn\'t make the resolve of the plot any better. It was more of a matter of WHEN Vito was going to die as opposed to IF after his foolish (in terms of the character\'s choice) and contrived (in terms of the show\'s choice) decision to return to a state where most everyone was waiting/hoping for him to die. I would have rather seen an attempt at whacking him go awry and have even more drama ensue, but alas, he\'s dead, which forces another plot that anyone could have seen coming down the Tappan Zee bridge: a war between New York and New Jersey. To me, this plot is only going to work if main characters die, as opposed to the fringe ones that have been dying the past two seasons.
All this said, I felt the scene after the wake/funeral (neither of which we saw) with Phil and his wife and Vito\'s wife, Marie, was poignant, as was the scene with "Little" Vito reading the newspaper article.
The A.J. stuff was also again well done with the garage scene being far-and-away my favorite of the episode. The related Melfi scene was also strong.
As far as Carmela\'s trip to Paris goes: is it too late to go back to the spec house subplot? I couldn\'t remember if I was watching The Sopranos or a Travel Channel special on European artifacts. I get it: Carm has been unsettled all season, going back to her Adriana daydream in the season-opener when she says she\'s "worried all the time." And the scene with Rosalie regarding her late son and husband was relevant to Carm\'s morbid state of mind. I just wish we didn\'t have to muddle through a cross between Thelma & Louise and National Lampoon\'s European Vacation to get there.
This season will be a major disappointment if tonight\'s episode isn\'t utterly outstanding. The show\'s best all-time writers: creator David Chase, along with Robin Green and Mitchell Burgess, have had a relatively light slate this year and I expect the trio to tag-team this one.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 04, 2006, 10:58:50 pm
Loved the hospital scene with Tony and Phil, but otherwise, severely average. A fitting close.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Wolfman on June 04, 2006, 11:08:33 pm
Quote from: ChrisPitch
As far as Carmela\'s trip to Paris goes: is it too late to go back to the spec house subplot? I couldn\'t remember if I was watching The Sopranos or a Travel Channel special on European artifacts. I get it: Carm has been unsettled all season, going back to her Adriana daydream in the season-opener when she says she\'s "worried all the time." And the scene with Rosalie regarding her late son and husband was relevant to Carm\'s morbid state of mind. I just wish we didn\'t have to muddle through a cross between Thelma & Louise and National Lampoon\'s European Vacation to get there.
I gotta sound off on this too before tackling this week\'s episode. We didn\'t need even one scene from this trip, and it took up nearly HALF the episode. I liken "Carmela and Ros do Paris" to Sex And The City. Just a couple of women sitting around in the city, drinking wine, and gossiping away. That\'s fine, but what is this doing taking up half an episode of The Sopranos? Was there ever an episode of Sex And The City that was overrun by a bunch of mobsters talking about gangster shit? I doubt it.
* * * Sooo...the big season finale. Some good angles I guess. Tony visiting Phil in the hospital and talking him out of war was easily the best part. Chris with Julianna, coulda been something but amounted to nothing. Entertaining though. Chris is using again, well, yeah, ok, he was 2 episodes ago too. AJ, who was on the brink of disaster and getting exciting just a few episodes ago, just ups and fixes everything and ditches all his club friends just like that? And the story with the 30-year-old perfect 10 Dominican mom he gets with is utterly unbelievable. She fell for him while he was loading trash into a whellbarrow? I would\'ve barely believed that he met her in one of his clubs if they had given me that. And finally, what\'s up with a Christmas episode in June? It just doesn\'t feel right at all. TV shows have Christmas episodes around (gasp!) Christmas so you feel in touch with the show. I don\'t connect with a Christmas scene in June.
All in all, Season 6 of The Sopranos was like Phish in 2003: You still show up every time because the potential for greatness is always there. You still get a couple of great moments every show. It\'s still an excellent product overall. But the days of breathtaking, unceasing mastery are clearly behind them. The announcement tonight that there are 8 episodes left is just like Trey announcing with 1 short tour to go that this would be it. Now you\'re just hoping that they can bring it home strong and with a good sendoff.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on June 05, 2006, 12:22:44 am
did anyone else think that tonite\'s episode was beyond horrible?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 05, 2006, 06:40:03 am
i\'m not gonna go too into the episode yet, but just a few quick points...
last night was NOT the season 6 finale. it\'s been stated from the get go that season 6 would be 20 episodes, with a break after 12. you should not have gone into last night\'s episode with \'season finale\' expectations.
Quote from: Wolfman
And the story with the 30-year-old perfect 10 Dominican mom he gets with is utterly unbelievable. She fell for him while he was loading trash into a whellbarrow? I would\'ve barely believed that he met her in one of his clubs if they had given me that.
a single mother living in a bad neighborhood going for the son of a mob boss with all the money in the world? sounds completely believable to me..
Quote from: Wolfman
And finally, what\'s up with a Christmas episode in June? It just doesn\'t feel right at all. TV shows have Christmas episodes around (gasp!) Christmas so you feel in touch with the show. I don\'t connect with a Christmas scene in June.
sopranos-time has never \'lined up\' with the time it airs.. this is nothing new. and it\'s been winter all season, so it makes perfect sence. it\'s ok though wolf - we don\'t expect you to connect with a Christmas scene in december either. ;)
Quote from: Wolfman
All in all, Season 6 of The Sopranos was...
again, season 6 continues next year.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on June 05, 2006, 09:46:31 am
I didn\'t think the episode was so bad. I like to make wild speculations on how thing will shake out, and it gave me some food for thought, so here goes-
Paulie starts(/continues?) nailing the Dominican he introduced AJ to. AJ finds out, flips, kills Paulie in a situation where Paulie almost has to fall down and kill himself. Dualing idiots, should give some hilarious dialoge. Tony notices Paulie missing. AJ is not man enough to confess to Tony. Tony assumes it\'s Phil breaking his promise and reverting to his original plan of taking out a capo>WAR. Morality- everything Tony has built falls apart, b/c he was so busy w. business he didn\'t take care of things @ home and therefore raised a complete jackass for a son who fucks everything up.
Get David Chase on the phone. I think I\'m a writer:D
2006 Sopranos=2003 Phish :lol: I guess that\'s why the call it a peak. After you hit it there is now where to go but down.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 05, 2006, 10:24:31 am
I was very let down by last nights episode.
I know it\'s not the technical "season finale" but it\'s still the last episode until 2007, so give us something juicy to go out on. It was all a little too norman rockwell for me.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Wolfman on June 05, 2006, 10:51:23 am
Quote from: davepeck
i\'m not gonna go too into the episode yet, but just a few quick points...
last night was NOT the season 6 finale. it\'s been stated from the get go that season 6 would be 20 episodes, with a break after 12. you should not have gone into last night\'s episode with \'season finale\' expectations.
Quote from: Wolfman
And the story with the 30-year-old perfect 10 Dominican mom he gets with is utterly unbelievable. She fell for him while he was loading trash into a whellbarrow? I would\'ve barely believed that he met her in one of his clubs if they had given me that.
a single mother living in a bad neighborhood going for the son of a mob boss with all the money in the world? sounds completely believable to me..
That\'s fine. I still say it\'s utterly ridiculous.
Quote from: davepeck
Quote from: Wolfman
And finally, what\'s up with a Christmas episode in June? It just doesn\'t feel right at all. TV shows have Christmas episodes around (gasp!) Christmas so you feel in touch with the show. I don\'t connect with a Christmas scene in June.
sopranos-time has never \'lined up\' with the time it airs.. this is nothing new. and it\'s been winter all season, so it makes perfect sence. it\'s ok though wolf - we don\'t expect you to connect with a Christmas scene in december either. ;)
It\'s always been a flaw in the show. I never said this was a new concept.
Quote from: davepeck
Quote from: Wolfman
All in all, Season 6 of The Sopranos was...
again, season 6 continues next year.
Was/is... who cares? You of all people should have appreciated my excellent Phish analogy but you were too hung up on my verb tenses to enjoy it. Rather than nitpicking technicalities how about you tell us what you thought about the episode?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 05, 2006, 01:47:22 pm
Quote from: Wolfman
Was/is... who cares? You of all people should have appreciated my excellent Phish analogy but you were too hung up on my verb tenses to enjoy it. Rather than nitpicking technicalities how about you tell us what you thought about the episode?
wow.
i\'m not hung up on your verb tenses, i\'m hung up on the fact that you went into this episode expecting a big \'season finale\', when that\'s not what it was or ever meant to be.
anyways, i thought it was a solid episode, but i also didn\'t go into it expecting it to be anything more than another episode in season six. sure, you\'re not left with any major cliffhanger for the next 7 months, but even with the real season finales, the sopranos has never been that kind of show.
i thought the christmas card ending was absolutely fantastic, and a GREAT note to go out on before the break. it shows you the entire family together, at peace, and happy. and i have a feeling that\'s gonna be the last time we see them like that.
just when the NY/NJ thing starts to heat up, phil has a heart attack, which seems like it will completely diffuse that storyline.. i don\'t think that\'s the case though.. i think it will only ignite things more. what will happen if phil dies? the NY crew seem like a bunch of loose canons - just look at the way phil\'s goon got in tony\'s face on his way out of the hospital..
i don\'t like the fact that the carmella/ade thing was set up in several episodes, then tony just keeps her busy with the house to get her mind off it.. now i\'m hoping something more happens there because that\'s a weak payoff.
but my biggest complaint about the episode? lack of nudity. i mean, come on.. you\'ve got Julianna Margulies and Dania Ramirez getting fucked nine ways to sunday in every other scene, and not a single shot of tit, ass, or bush?? :mad:
phil had the best line of the episode - "I gotta go try and take a shit." :lol:
and how about the fed dropping the tip to tony?? interesting, i thought.. but who\'s the one in danger?
well, here\'s a little farfetched theory to play along with wildcoyote - what if julianna was sent in by NY to take down chris, via an overdose??
think about it - it\'s a way for NY to take down one of NJ\'s top guys with clean hands. a julianna-influenced christopher overdose would look like it\'s his own fault, when in fact it was Phil & co. that took him down.. :chin:
no, i don\'t really believe that, but it\'s something..
anyways, i thought it was an average episode, and overall, an average season so far. i think it started off really strong, but started dropping off along the way, and has started to show the padding that has been needed to stretch out the show. remember folks, this show was originally written for four seasons. there\'s a lot of stuff happening that was never originally intended to happen.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 05, 2006, 01:51:48 pm
Quote from: davepeck
[anyways, i thought it was an average episode, and overall, an average season so far. i think it started off really strong, but started dropping off along the way, .
:that:
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: zee on June 05, 2006, 01:52:34 pm
me. I hated lastnights episode. boring.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on June 05, 2006, 01:55:32 pm
so season six continues NEXT YEAR? wtf?
why didnt they just make another season...
I didnt think last night was bad at all. Kinda liked it actually. I felt like there was a lot of subtle but important things going on. May have to watch again to catch them all. Really glad that vito is dead tho and we are finally moving on. That just ate up waaaay to much time and was really not that interesting imo.
how bout the scene where the old FBI agent tells tony that brooklyn is plotting on him. THat was a great scene. So was the phil in the hospital scene. His henchmen are so weasely. TOny should knocked that little fag out when he stood in his way at the door.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 05, 2006, 02:00:22 pm
great moment:
Tony:"lean on that building contractor guy"
Sil:"you said to lay off it"
Tony:"lean on him for all our sakes lean on him"
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on June 05, 2006, 05:48:04 pm
Quote from: davepeck
sopranos-time has never \'lined up\' with the time it airs.. this is nothing new. and it\'s been winter all season, so it makes perfect sence. it\'s ok though wolf - we don\'t expect you to connect with a Christmas scene in december either. ;)
JUST CAUSE SOMEONE\'S JEWISH DOESN\'T MEAN THEY DON\'T KNOW WHEN IT\'S CHRISTMAS!
Quote from: davepeck
but my biggest complaint about the episode? lack of nudity. i mean, come on.. you\'ve got Julianna Margulies and Dania Ramirez getting fucked nine ways to sunday in every other scene, and not a single shot of tit, ass, or bush?? :mad:
there was plenty of sex on the show last night..i think maybe too much and it just took up time out of the episode. also, i don\'t really mind that there wasn\'t a ton of nudity (aside from the stripclub) because i watched the show with my ENTIRE FAMILY last night. talk about feeling kinda akward sitting next to your dad. :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Klout on June 05, 2006, 06:07:32 pm
aj\'s new woman is a firecracker in bed
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 16, 2006, 11:42:12 am
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\'Sopranos\' Stars Warn "Pay Rise or We\'re Off"
By WENN| Thursday, June 15, 2006
HOLLYWOOD - Cast members of hit mafia series The Sopranos are demanding higher salaries after the show\'s bosses secured a string of lucrative rerun rights and staggering DVD sales.
Jamie-Lynn Sigler, who plays Meadow, Robert Iler, who plays A.J., Steven Schirripa, who plays Bobby Bacala, Steven Van Zandt, who plays Silvio Dante, Lorraine Bracco, who plays Dr Melfi, and Tony Sirico, who plays Paulie \'Walnuts\', are all demanding a substantial rise before signing up for the final season, set to begin next month.
They\'ve reportedly threatened to walk out unless their wages more than double.
However, network HBO is only offering a fraction of their demands, and may be forced to write characters out of the series if they don\'t settle.
A source tells the New York Post, "It\'s coming down to the wire. HBO just doesn\'t want to pay.
"No one has deals and they\'re very far apart. [Show creator] David Chase has tried to help the actors, but even his pleas have fallen on deaf ears.
"The guys want (a new deal) to happen. These are the last eight episodes, and the money is going to be coming in for HBO for years to come. "But the actors get no residuals - and they want to be compensated.
"They\'re being treated like dog s**t."
An HBO spokesman refused to comment on the pay reports.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3505716
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 16, 2006, 12:19:04 pm
I would be really bummed if that was the last episode, or if they wrote people out too many people, it would be obvious and wouldn\'t work
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 16, 2006, 01:10:12 pm
oh, and speaking of the sopranos, anyone ever see the skit about the sopranos on PAX from madTV?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmX-SSJO-ug
gotta be the best thing madTV has ever done. :thumbsup:
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 16, 2006, 01:16:29 pm
MAD TV sux, hasn\'t been good since the first season, Gump Fiction was the best, I\'ll watch this later though
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 30, 2006, 11:52:45 am
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Bracco, Turturro Settle with \'Sopranos\' Van Zandt, Sirico still holding out June 29 2006
Two more members of "The Sopranos" cast have signed deals to appear in the show\'s final episodes, but two prime wiseguys are still holding out.
Lorraine Bracco, who plays Tony\'s (James Gandolfini) therapist, Dr. Jennifer Melfi, and Aida Turturro, Tony\'s sister Janice, have each agreed to return for the final run of episodes, which is scheduled to begin in January. The cast\'s first script reading is set for next week.
Both actresses will be receiving sizable raises for the final episodes, which HBO is calling a continuation of the sixth season (the first 12 episodes ended earlier this month). According to The Hollywood Reporter, Bracco will earn about $220,000 per episode, while Turturro will get $130,000.
The trade paper also reports that Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler have also finalized their deals to return, with each getting a per-episode salary in the low six figures.
Meanwhile, two of Tony Soprano\'s prime lieutenants, Steven Van Zandt (Silvio Dante) and Tony Sirico (Paulie Walnuts), are keeping up their holdout and threatening to quit the show if their demands for a raise aren\'t met. The two actors, who have the same manager, are asking for pay in the $200,000-per-episode range, the New York Post says.
Both have been a major part of the show throughout its run, and should it come to that, writing Silvio and Paulie out would be a tricky task.
Steven Schirripa, who plays Janice\'s husband Bobby, also has yet to sign, but the HR says he\'s expected to work out a contract before the table read next week.
Title: \'Sopranos\' Start Date Probably Delayed Until March
Post by: davepeck on July 13, 2006, 07:49:58 pm
oy vey...
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\'Sopranos\' Start Date Gets Kneecapped Gandolfini injury, scheduling issues likely to push show back By Rick Porter July 12 2006
Edie Falco and James Gandolfini on \'The Sopranos\'PASADENA, Calif. -- HBO announced Wednesday that its series "Rome" would begin its second and final season at 9 p.m. ET Sunday, Jan. 7.
On the surface, that\'s a no-big-thing piece of news; tidbits about premiere dates are a staple of the Television Critics Association press tour, where the announcement was made.
It\'s a little bigger deal, though, considering the fact that HBO had previously said "The Sopranos," which also airs at 9 on Sundays, would begin its final run of episodes in January. And sure enough, network chief Chris Albrecht says "Sopranos" fans may have to wait a little longer for their last looks at Tony Soprano (James Gandolfini) and his families.
"The Sopranos" Showcard "Jimmy had a little knee surgery, unexpected knee surgery, which pushed us back a couple of weeks," Albrecht says. "And then we looked at the fact that we would be launching sort of in the middle of the [NFL] playoffs and the Super Bowl and all that stuff, and it seemed that for everybody\'s sake we would push back a few weeks."
What "a few weeks" means, exactly, HBO hasn\'t worked out yet. "Rome" is slated to run for 10 episodes, so if "The Sopranos" were to follow its finale, that would put the premiere date for the mob drama somewhere in March. The network is still working on its scheduling plans, but Albrecht says "it definitely won\'t be in January."
Filming on the final eight episodes of the series gets underway this month, and though the final storylines will no doubt be kept top-secret, that didn\'t stop one critic from asking Albrecht about how it ends. Specifically, the question was: "Can you tell us, is Tony going to live all the way through the series?"
Albrecht looked genuinely dumbfounded for a moment before recovering to joke, "Sure. I\'ll tell you. Is anybody else interested in that? I don\'t want to bore you.
"Are you high?" he continued. "I might as well shoot myself in the head if I tell you that."
For the record, the questioner insisted she was not, in fact, high.
yep.. keep delaying it til no one cares anymore.. great.
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Post by: Me! on July 14, 2006, 09:20:43 am
^^^shitty!
Title: Emmy Award
Post by: Me! on August 28, 2006, 11:01:50 am
I know the Emmy\'s are useless but none the less
Writing for a Drama Series: "The Sopranos," Members Only, HBO.
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Post by: Me! on August 28, 2006, 12:48:04 pm
Quote from: Zap2it.com
\'Sopranos\' Books a Baldwin Daniel will play himself in final episodes August 8 2006
Having struck out with Ben Kingsley, "Sopranos" wiseguy and would-be filmmaker Christopher Moltisanti will be turning to Daniel Baldwin to help realize his dream project.
Baldwin, a former star of "Homicide," will play himself in the final episodes of "The Sopranos," the showbiz trade papers report. The last eight episodes of HBO\'s signature series are scheduled to air sometime early next year, though dates haven\'t been set.
The story will have Baldwin agreeing to star in Christopher\'s (Michael Imperioli) gangster/slasher movie, which he envisions as "\'Saw\' meets \'Godfather II.\'" He unsuccessfully tried to woo Kingsley (also playing himself) for the role last season.
It\'s unclear how many episodes Baldwin will appear in, but the part has the potential to be a recurring one.
Baldwin played Detective Beau Felton on the first three seasons of "Homicide: Life on the Street" and reprised the role in a 2000 TV movie. His recent credits include the Showtime movie "Our Fathers," Sci Fi\'s "Anonymous Rex" and the independent feature "Searching for Mickey Fish."
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Post by: Me! on September 01, 2006, 10:22:10 am
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Post by: Me! on January 16, 2007, 05:34:54 pm
Quote from: zap2it.com
One More for \'The Sopranos\' Final run extended to nine episodes, begins April 8 January 12, 2007
LOS ANGELES -- The last ride for "The Sopranos" is still scheduled for this spring, but creator David Chase couldn\'t quite let go with eight episodes.
As such, HBO has added a ninth episode to the show\'s final run, which also now has a definite premiere date: Sunday, April 8. "Entourage" will also return that night, wrapping up its third season with eight episodes.
For those of you marking your calendars, then, that\'s 86 days until Tony (James Gandolfini) and Co. grace the screen again.
When the show left off last June, the Soprano family was celebrating Christmas and things seemed to be going rather well: Tony seemed to have reached detente with Phil Leotardo (Frank Vincent), Carmela\'s (Edie Falco) spec house was back on track and AJ (Robert Iler) had both a job and a girlfriend.
The show\'s history suggests, though, that good times aren\'t meant to last. On the minus side of the ledger, Christopher (Michael Imperioli) has relapsed into heroin use and begun an affair with a fellow addict (Julianna Margulies) tensions between the New York and New Jersey crews linger, and there are those two mysterious guys who hang out at the Bada Bing.
As for "Entourage," it will resume with Vince (Adrian Grenier) having fired his agent Ari (Jeremy Piven) and struck out on his own. The show has been picked up for a fourth season, which is likely to premiere later in the year.
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Post by: Igziabeher on January 16, 2007, 07:26:02 pm
w00t w00t!
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Post by: FreeSpirit on January 17, 2007, 08:41:33 am
I just got a "casting call" for the Sopranos in my inbox - Here are some characters to look for in the upcoming season:
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HBO\'s "The Sopranos"
Casting for the HBO drama "The Sopranos" set to begin production. Role: IRA SHORTZ - Owner of model railroad store. Role: ARNOLD BELLOWS - Jewish professional-type. Role: YARYNA\'S DAD -Ukrainian. Resemblance to Phil Leotardo (Frank Vincent - 5\'8\'ish, fit, full head of white hair - Yaryna is the Leotardo\'s maid. Role: RAY-RAY D\'ABALDO -Italian-American male. In Phil\'s crew. Tough guy. Role: HEATHER DANTE -Italian-American, Silvio\'s daughter. Neighborhood woman. Role: EVELYN - Administrator at mental hospital, dresses in L.L. Role: UNCLE JOE - Silvio\'s uncle, Italian-American. Role: MARY - Italian-American neighborhood woman. Heavy-set
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Post by: davepeck on January 17, 2007, 09:11:15 am
april 8th, huh? wonder if i\'ll have any care left in me at all by the time it rolls around.. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Me! on January 17, 2007, 10:24:23 am
Quote from: davepeck;131201
april 8th, huh? wonder if i\'ll have any care left in me at all by the time it rolls around.. :rolleyes:
come on....... How long was it between season 5 and 6? 2+yrs? and you can\'t wait a few months for the end of the series?
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Post by: skalnbyc on January 22, 2007, 04:55:20 pm
I have never seen this show and was under the impression it was no longer on air.
I just found out my cousin has a speaking part on an upcoming episode, so I suppose that\'ll be my first episode.
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Post by: Me! on March 27, 2007, 02:50:58 am
A little surprised no one has mentioned this yet, it is about two weeks off (maybe I\'m just antsy), but I am very much anticipating the Sopranos final season. I\'m sad to see it go but it\'s had a great run. I started watching my season 6 part 1 DVD\'s to refresh my memory on the latest events.
(I\'m sure all of you who actually have HBO have seen all these adds a million times, but I have to head to a friends to catch the episodes)
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Post by: davepeck on April 03, 2007, 11:59:23 am
leakage.
though i\'ll be waiting and watching it in HD when it airs..
i\'m really not too excited. i just want it to be over, and i\'d like it to be good, but i\'m really not all too optimistic about it. plus, whether it\'s fair or not, i\'ll be comparing the series finale of the sopranos to that of six feet under, who set the bar extraordinarily high with what was the best finale in television history, imo.
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Post by: phirehead on April 03, 2007, 12:42:07 pm
Quote from: davepeck;141078
leakage.
though i\'ll be waiting and watching it in HD when it airs..
i\'m really not too excited. i just want it to be over, and i\'d like it to be good, but i\'m really not all too optimistic about it. plus, whether it\'s fair or not, i\'ll be comparing the series finale of the sopranos to that of six feet under, who set the bar extraordinarily high with what was the best finale in television history, imo.
I couldn\'t agree with you more about six feet under, dave. It was replayed last night and I watched it. I\'m glad there\'s a station that replays it.
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Post by: Dweasel Weasel on April 04, 2007, 11:35:50 am
Anyone wanna start a pool as to whether it all ends without jail or bloodshed?
6 ft under = RIP
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Post by: davepeck on April 09, 2007, 11:01:13 am
amazing, amazing episode last night. perfect way to come back from a long hiatus, and begin the stretch of final episodes!
one of my favorite things in television is when old scenes are edited and then replayed to create new storylines! it\'s such an awesome and innovative idea, and really gives the writers endless possibilites! GREAT!
and the lake... how friggin incredible is THE LAKE?!? WOW.
i do have to say that i\'m a little upset about the lack of screen time given to the karaoke scenes.. i mean, monopoly is a great game, but they really overdid it.. i mean, did tony sing? did bobby sing?? and if so, what did they sing??? unfortunately, these are questions i don\'t think i\'ll ever know the answers to. for shame.
we learned a LOT about janice and tony\'s childhood and how disfunctional their family was.. who knew?? janice didn\'t get nearly enough screen time either.
i just hope they slow things down a little bit. i mean, there\'s EIGHT episodes left! if they keep going at the frantic pace that last night\'s episode went at, i don\'t see how they\'re going to be able to fill up all 8 episodes.
guess we\'ll see next week!
VIVA SOPRANOS!!!1
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Post by: weekapaug19 on April 09, 2007, 11:28:36 am
does anybody know if this is somewhere on the internet to watch?? I don\'t get HBO :(
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Post by: ChrisPitch on April 09, 2007, 12:37:15 pm
overall, a strong episode.
i like tony realizing that he\'s a mere physical shell of what he used to be, which could have ramifications of how the season progresses. and i especially like how the presence of janice\'s anger, which of course ties in to olivia\'s anger and the home movies and all, played a major role in tony and bobby fighting. i mean, that never would have happened otherwise. earlier in the episode they were having a great old time, but the booze combined with janice and the bad memories of tony\'s childhood helped cause the fight, which i loved, and ultimately led to what i think is a big moment in the show with bobby killing someone, which he sort of had to do to get back in tony\'s good graces and just continues the along the theme of his character changing, again largely due to janice.
perhaps i\'m diving too deep, but i\'m very focused on characters developing and going on emotional and psychological journeys and i felt like i went on that journey last night. maybe not a five-star episode, but far better than most of the episodes of the first half of season six, and leaps and bounds better than that half\'s opener and closer.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on April 09, 2007, 12:57:56 pm
I\'n thinking each episode will focus on a main charachter sealing their own fate.
How many of you thought Hector was going to drown at AJ and Dominica\'s """pool party"""?
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Post by: Me! on April 09, 2007, 03:04:10 pm
HOw quickly things change Dave Peck. I loved last night\'s episode as well, I thought the tension building throughout the certain scenes was awesome, I def thought for a sec that Tony was gonna take out Bobbi for a second. Very much looking forward to this final season.
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Post by: wildcoyote on April 09, 2007, 05:26:07 pm
I love the subtle things. Carmela singing "Out of Time" foreshadowing anyone?
I think when Tony said "you beat me fair and square" he was talking to Janice, not Bacala.
When Tony woke up, the clock showed 4:04. In past episodes the time has had some sigificance, but I can\'t recall what? Little help anyone?
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Post by: Overexjoesure on April 09, 2007, 07:38:08 pm
4:04 is considered the point in the day when the astral and physical planes cross over. People meditate mostly between 4:00 and 5:30 for maximum contact with spirtis, and the higher self. Tony awoke because he was probably in a lucid state of thought and reflection caused by his dream state, forcing him to resolve the internal conflict.
But like I said, I predict each episode will result in each charachter sealing their fate. Bobby never "popped his cherry", and exclaimed the difficulty of doing so, with "the DNA nowadays". And of coarse the emotional intensity of killing a man causes him to lose his grounding, which causes him to leave behind a piece of his shirt and his gun. Coincidence..... There are none. Bobby\'s dunzo... But notice Tony had complete control over Bacala\'s fate. I\'m curious to see if this theme continues witch each episode. Ahh the wonderments of a sociopath!!
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Post by: davepeck on April 16, 2007, 11:31:47 am
fantastic episode, i thought. the ending was chilling, and the whole Johnny Sack thing (while a bit rushed) was really depressing. Sidney Pollack was great.
is phil "all-in" or "all-out"? his speech could be interpreted either way i think..
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 16, 2007, 11:53:13 am
What I took from Phil\'s speech at the end, is that he is ready to go to war with Tony and start fucking some shit up.....I think he feels that his family Leatardo (ballet costume - ha!) has been shat on since they came over from the motherland, and he is sick of taking shit....
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on April 16, 2007, 11:54:09 am
last night definitely made up for the previous week\'s episode..
i liked the phil scene at johnny sack\'s memorial when he talks about leonardo>leotardo and how people were stupid and jealous of italians when they came to this country. i think he that will be getting himself out over the course of this season.
the end sequence with tony and carmella at the christening was something else. there is definitely some serious tension that i think will pan out to be the very ultimate competition between tony and christopher. by the end of this season, one of them is going to be dead for sure.
i still don\'t know where the whole anthony and skanky girlfriend thing is going. i kind of want to see somethign happen or just see the situation go away.
i would also like to see some closure on the whole adriana escapade this season if that is even a possibility.
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Post by: freddiewaht on April 16, 2007, 12:08:38 pm
if theres not a buttload of murders in an episode it surely must suck... :banghead:
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Post by: ChrisPitch on April 16, 2007, 01:44:46 pm
***** out of *****
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Post by: Me! on April 16, 2007, 02:49:20 pm
Shit is seriously gonna start going down next week.
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Post by: Spacey on April 16, 2007, 03:00:30 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;142182
if theres not a buttload of murders in an episode it surely must suck... :banghead:
I agree.
I didn\'t watch last night but after reading many of the other posts, I am going to watch it on demand tonight. Hopefully, it is better than last weeks.
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 16, 2007, 03:07:52 pm
It would have been a super fantastic episode if that hoo haa AJ would have smacked the shit outta his stupid ass girlfriend right at the dinner table in front of the whole family and his girlfriends kid.......not that i endorse relationship abuse (or any other kind of abuse for that matter), but that chick is a bitch and it makes no sense to me why he is going out with her.....
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Post by: ChrisPitch on April 24, 2007, 04:03:53 pm
Wow. Well, we sure have been reduced to crickets in this thread. What gives? Anyway, I give it ****1/2 stars out of *****. Liked it better than the first week, but not as much as the second week.
The Junior stuff was very funny and probably closes out his role on the show. The Paulie stuff had tension through the roof and I think it was the right decision to not kill him, but a good one to make it seem like it\'s still a possibility at the end.
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 24, 2007, 04:12:30 pm
There was a breakfast show on sunday at the stone church...... I definitely missed this past episode. I am hoping to catch an encore of it before this coming sunday.....
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Post by: davepeck on April 24, 2007, 04:37:21 pm
won\'t be seeing this week\'s until tomorrow, at the earliest..
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 26, 2007, 03:29:18 pm
"a man brings a big bouquet of flowers home to his wife. She says to him, \'so now i guess i have to spread my legs?\' He replies, \'whats a matta you dont have a vase?\'"
^ A paraphrase of my favorite joke that Junior told in this past episode.......
I definitely thought that when they cut from the boat to paulie seeing hoo haa cooking in the kitchen that Tony had iced him. The tension in that scene was fucking amazing.....
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Post by: Spacey on April 26, 2007, 03:30:37 pm
I watched that episode last night. I thought the same thing. Can\'t wait for the next one. Should be good.
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Post by: Klout on April 26, 2007, 11:54:16 pm
I\'m not really feeling the season all that much so far. Its somewhat entertaining but I think we are gonna wind up with a whole lot of russian up a tree endings when its all said and done....i.e. the story doesn\'t really end....it just stops.
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Post by: davepeck on April 27, 2007, 11:51:56 am
watched this week\'s last night, and again this morning. loved it. tension everywhere. june was gold, as was the kid. tony wants out. don\'t eat off of phil\'s plate.
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 27, 2007, 12:07:32 pm
Quote from: JordanRules2007;143465
I\'m not really feeling the season all that much so far. Its somewhat entertaining but I think we are gonna wind up with a whole lot of russian up a tree endings when its all said and done....i.e. the story doesn\'t really end....it just stops.
From what I understand is that after this final HBO season, there will be a feature length film released in theaters.... < def unconfirmed but I do remember hearing that somewhere....
"dont eat off of Phil\'s plate" HA!
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Post by: Me! on April 29, 2007, 08:44:13 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;143518
From what I understand is that after this final HBO season, there will be a feature length film released in theaters.... < def unconfirmed but I do remember hearing that somewhere....
This is the first I\'ve heard of this. IMHO this would be a bad idea, they should just end it on HBO, I\'m sure it would be stellar but, I don\'t know, I just think it should end where it started.
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 30, 2007, 08:25:16 am
"I guess the shit doesn\'t fall far from the fag\'s ass"
The only thing i didnt like about last nights episode was that if Vito Jr. was gonna take a shit in the shower, why didnt he throw it at the kids who were making fun of him as opposed to stepping on it?
AJ Soprano is the biggest douche of a character on any show going......
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Post by: Me! on April 30, 2007, 01:22:00 pm
Good episode, I loved Sal sittin there fixing the lamp, so odd.
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 30, 2007, 01:27:38 pm
I am on the fence about the old jewish man that Tony owes 200 large to. I definitely thought he was gonna be "delt with". Then I thought that maybe Tony and Co. took care of his wife/GF. However it was merely just his paranoia (or so it seems).....
He was right about one thing though, that when backed into a corner, [tony] will turn into an animal....
This whole ending season has Tony being backed into a corner from every single direction......
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Post by: Spacey on April 30, 2007, 01:48:36 pm
I\'ll have to watch this once it gets to on-demand in the next day or so.
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Post by: Me! on April 30, 2007, 01:55:11 pm
should be On-Demand already. It\'s supposed to show up the next day.
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Post by: Spacey on April 30, 2007, 02:14:36 pm
I\'ll have to check it when I get home. Mondays are reserved evenings for inhaling.
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Post by: Me! on April 30, 2007, 02:21:37 pm
Phil "The hell\'s wrong with you? You look like a Puerto Rican whore. Make me sick"
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Post by: Yoda on April 30, 2007, 02:25:50 pm
From what I understand is that after this final HBO season, there will be a feature length film released in theaters.... < def unconfirmed but I do remember hearing that somewhere....
"dont eat off of Phil\'s plate" HA![/QUOTE]
The movie thing was a rumor that was spreading, but definitely not happening; these next few episodes are going to be it. Although I continue to watch, I\'m continually disapointed. I have to give Chase props for shooting the scene with Phil and Vito Jr. at Applegates in Montclair - 1/2 mile from my house. All in all, I\'ll watch, but it doesn\'t hold for me the same appeal that it did during the first 3 seasons
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Post by: Stephengencs on April 30, 2007, 02:31:04 pm
Props for shooting in Montclair???? Why between Verona and Montclair, you have half the mob living there already. It\'s just authenticity.....
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Post by: Spacey on April 30, 2007, 03:02:58 pm
I agree that I haven\'t been that hooked since season 3 ended but for one reason or another, I\'m here till the end.
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Post by: davepeck on April 30, 2007, 03:20:00 pm
the shit that little vito took in the shower is symbolic of the shit that david chase took on the viewers with this eipsode. :thumbsdow
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Post by: Yoda on May 01, 2007, 08:47:01 am
Quote from: Stephengencs;143816
Props for shooting in Montclair???? Why between Verona and Montclair, you have half the mob living there already. It\'s just authenticity.....
It was authenticity, almost 10 years ago. The Soprano family was loosely based on the DeCavalcante family, who really haven\'t been a presence since 2000; the Bonanno family also had ties to NJ, but like I said it\'s not really that visible anymore. When I was growing up, yeah, they were around. Now you\'re more likely to see the likes of the Bloods, Cryps, Latin Kings and such.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 01, 2007, 10:29:34 am
Quote from: Yoda;143970
Quote from: Stephengencs;143816
Props for shooting in Montclair???? Why between Verona and Montclair, you have half the mob living there already. It\'s just authenticity.....
It was authenticity, almost 10 years ago. The Soprano family was loosely based on the DeCavalcante family, who really haven\'t been a presence since 2000; the Bonanno family also had ties to NJ, but like I said it\'s not really that visible anymore. When I was growing up, yeah, they were around. Now you\'re more likely to see the likes of the Bloods, Cryps, Latin Kings and such.
I am gonna leave well-enough alone here and just say, "cool".
Ryan, with all this newfound activity on .info, does that mean there is a chance of you actually being present at a live Breakfast show in the somewhat near future???
I feel like I haven\'t seen you since Freddie and Sam\'s Jack and Jill.......
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Post by: Yoda on May 01, 2007, 11:02:49 am
It\'s possible if they make it down to the NJ/NYC area on a weekend - we\'ll see. It hasn\'t been that long. My last show was 9/13/02, but there weren\'t a lot of locals at that show. Before that it was 8/1/02 at the Grand Band Slam party in Hartford. It\'d be nice to catch up with whoever wants to catch up.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 01, 2007, 11:08:31 am
Quote from: Yoda;144007
It\'s possible if they make it down to the NJ/NYC area on a weekend - we\'ll see. It hasn\'t been that long. My last show was 9/13/02, but there weren\'t a lot of locals at that show. Before that it was 8/1/02 at the Grand Band Slam party in Hartford. It\'d be nice to catch up with whoever wants to catch up.
well though 4.5 years may not be a long time to us old timers, it can be construed as a long time to those who\'s life is only x4 of that spance.....
either way, keep your eyes open for the next Asbury Park show. It should be off the proverbial hizzy....
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 01, 2007, 12:34:56 pm
Anyway, this was among the worst episodes in the show\'s history.
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Post by: davepeck on May 01, 2007, 12:39:52 pm
Wow. That was phenomenal. That was throwback. That\'s what made The Sopranos...The Sopranos. Action. Drama. Humor. Surprise. Suspense. Family. Plot development. Character development. Italian bravado. Mafioso. Crime. Loyalty. Hate. Love. Just fantastic.
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Post by: Whathefunk on May 07, 2007, 12:26:28 pm
Wow. That was phenomenal. That was throwback. That\'s what made The Sopranos...The Sopranos. Action. Drama. Humor. Surprise. Suspense. Family. Plot development. Character development. Italian bravado. Mafioso. Crime. Loyalty. Hate. Love. Just fantastic.
agreed. by far, best epi of the season (including the ones last year)
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 07, 2007, 02:47:46 pm
***** out of *****
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 07, 2007, 03:05:17 pm
I knew it was gonna be an interesting episode when in the opening scene, Tony comes down the stairs singing Comfortably Numb....
Christopher may get to see Adrianna sooner than he expects.......
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Post by: Whathefunk on May 07, 2007, 03:33:48 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;144628
Christopher may get to see Adrianna sooner than he expects.......
oh snap
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Post by: davepeck on May 07, 2007, 03:47:53 pm
faaaaaantastic. though honestly, i really thought chris was gonna take out paulie in the bar. i just pictured him taking out a gun and shooting paulie in the head. then you *knew* JT was a dead man as soon as chris knocked on the door. couldn\'t believe the shit spewing out of chris\' mouth though. he\'s got a lot of shit that\'s been eating at him for a long time.
even AJ had a good episode.. great parenting on tony\'s part - sending him out for tits and booze to solve his problems.. apparently it worked, and in the meantime, AJ gets his first first-hand look at \'the life\', and appears to like it.
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 07, 2007, 03:56:43 pm
I really liked the Soprano family scene at the end.....
Though I cant stand AJ, it was good to see him stop acting like such a whiney bitch. However if this show ends with him taking over the family, that would be the worst ending ever. WAY WORSE than JR being shot was only a dream.....
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Post by: Igziabeher on May 07, 2007, 06:28:58 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;144641
Though I cant stand AJ, it was good to see him stop acting like such a whiney bitch. However if this show ends with him taking over the family, that would be the worst ending ever. WAY WORSE than JR being shot was only a dream.....
I thought the Bob Newhart show ending was the one that was only a dream.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 07, 2007, 06:49:13 pm
I am not sure if the Dallas series finally was the whole "Who Shot JR" deal, but I do know that JR Ewing was not shot and it was just a dream......
I dont remember the Newhart series finally, but it was all a dream in that wackadoo Bob Newhart\'s head?
"Hi I\'m Larry. This is my brother Darryl. And this is my other brother Darryl"
Ahhhh Peter Scolari where did you go? Definitely didnt get any help from his Bosom Buddy Tom Hanks......
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Post by: Igziabeher on May 07, 2007, 08:53:53 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;144654
I am not sure if the Dallas series finally was the whole "Who Shot JR" deal, but I do know that JR Ewing was not shot and it was just a dream......
I dont remember the Newhart series finally, but it was all a dream in that wackadoo Bob Newhart\'s head?
"Hi I\'m Larry. This is my brother Darryl. And this is my other brother Darryl"
Ahhhh Peter Scolari where did you go? Definitely didnt get any help from his Bosom Buddy Tom Hanks......
I forgot that I was too young to ever catch Dallas.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Wolfman on May 07, 2007, 09:06:22 pm
Wolfman The Breakfast Bookie is back with some fantastic Sopranos lines!
Tony Dies: 1:1
Odds on individuals to kill Tony:
Chris: 2:1 Phil Leotardo (or his henchmen) 5:1 Janice: 10:1 Uncle Junior: 15:1 AJ: 15:1 Tony himself: 25:1 Carmella: 40:1 Artie Bucco: 100:1 Melfi: 150:1 Field (all others): 10:1
Christopher Dies: 1:2
Odds on individuals to kill Chris:
Paulie Walnuts: 2:1 Chris himself: 5:1 Tony: 6:1 Friend of JT: 8:1 Phil Leotardo (or his henchmen) 20:1 Chris\' wife: 30:1 Adrianna: 500:1 Field (all others) 4:1
Major female dies (Meadow, Melfi, Janice, Carmella) 25:1 Tony and Chris death teaser: 5:1 Tony, Chris and AJ death teaser: 30:1 Paulie dies: 6:1 Over/under on people with the last name "Soprano" to die: 1 Meadow gets naked: 50:1 Final scene of series is of the Sopranos at dinner: 10:1
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Post by: Me! on May 08, 2007, 01:07:22 am
It was def Dallas.
GREAT episode.
I forsee, maybe not AJ taking over, but certainly making moves toward that. It\'s not gonna be Paulie, it\'s def not gonna be Christopher (he\'s as good as dead), A good chance for Bobby (Tony pretty much said as much in the first episode). But I think Christopher is gonna get busted for the JT thing, then roll on Tony, but then Tony because he has "banked some goodwill" will find some way outta it, but Christopher is def going down. just an idea.
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Post by: Klout on May 09, 2007, 09:57:03 pm
pretty sweet episode indeed. almost made up for all the other episodes but not quite. i also thought chris was gonna blow pauly away right then and there when everyone was laughing at him. Something major better come of this though because its just his 5th relapse with no major consqeuences it would be reallly weak repetitive recycled shit. Not sure where they are going with the whole A-rab thing if anywhere. I loved the AJ stuff. Well the crying was a little over the top. But that one line and look on AJ\'s face was awesome....."You know who this is? Tony Soprano Junior, you know what that means". hahahha. It really seems like they might be heading towards him taking over because they are slowly taking out all the other possiblities one by one. Chrissy was like a son to tony a few years and was first in line but he is a total head case these days and is too self destructive and not trusted by tony at all anymore. Pauly. No Way for obvious reasons. I think bobby is gonna get pinched for that murder first episdoe...too much forshadowing there. sil is still possible tho. he would actually make the most sense at this point if something is going to happen to tony which we don\'t even know for sure yet anyway.
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Post by: Me! on May 10, 2007, 02:25:04 am
I dont\' think Sil would want ot or be able to handle being boss, remember when he took over for Tony and started having asthma attacks.
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Post by: booztravlr on May 10, 2007, 11:52:27 am
^ good point. i def forgot about the asthma attacks.
here are my predictions for the rest of the season...
junior - suicide attempt, successful aj - suicide attempt, 50/50 on success. If he survives he will want to help tony defend the family name. tony will send him off with meadow and carmella after they talk. meadow – tony tells her and carmella to flee when the killings begin carmella – tony tells her and meadow to flee when the killings begin janice - blames tony for bobbys death, tony will convince her it had nothing to do with it and he will have a heart to heart with her as he sends her off to safety (prob back to seattle to live with her son, if he is still alive)
chris – flees to Hollywood when all the killings begin or dies close to tony. don’t think tony will be involved paulie – wants revenge for what happened to little paulie, might pledge allegance to another family. if not he flees by himself and doesn’t tell anyone nor does he help out tony when he calls for help. bobby – killed by another family silvio – if he isn’t killed by another family he will take over for tony, if there is even a family left to take over. most likely he gets killed melfi – hears news of what happens to tony in the end and realizes her work was either a failure or that tony was the only reason she kept doing her job anymore. might attempt suicide. Tonys bodyguard – ends up dying when they try to kill tony Tony – prob escapes death at least once. with his family in hiding, all his crew dead or in the hospital he sees two things as outcomes. he can either go through with a witness protection program or he can defend his home. i think the last scenes will take place in his home. phil and his crew will show up there to finish everything out. Tony will either be inside ready to take it like a man and defend his family name or the FBI will be inside ready to storm phil and his crew since tony gave everybody up. really have no idea what tony’s fate will be.
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Post by: Wolfman on May 11, 2007, 12:55:32 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;144925
^ good point. i def forgot about the asthma attacks.
here are my predictions for the rest of the season...
junior - suicide attempt, successful aj - suicide attempt, 50/50 on success. If he survives he will want to help tony defend the family name. tony will send him off with meadow and carmella after they talk. meadow – tony tells her and carmella to flee when the killings begin carmella – tony tells her and meadow to flee when the killings begin janice - blames tony for bobbys death, tony will convince her it had nothing to do with it and he will have a heart to heart with her as he sends her off to safety (prob back to seattle to live with her son, if he is still alive)
chris – flees to Hollywood when all the killings begin or dies close to tony. don’t think tony will be involved paulie – wants revenge for what happened to little paulie, might pledge allegance to another family. if not he flees by himself and doesn’t tell anyone nor does he help out tony when he calls for help. bobby – killed by another family silvio – if he isn’t killed by another family he will take over for tony, if there is even a family left to take over. most likely he gets killed melfi – hears news of what happens to tony in the end and realizes her work was either a failure or that tony was the only reason she kept doing her job anymore. might attempt suicide. Tonys bodyguard – ends up dying when they try to kill tony Tony – prob escapes death at least once. with his family in hiding, all his crew dead or in the hospital he sees two things as outcomes. he can either go through with a witness protection program or he can defend his home. i think the last scenes will take place in his home. phil and his crew will show up there to finish everything out. Tony will either be inside ready to take it like a man and defend his family name or the FBI will be inside ready to storm phil and his crew since tony gave everybody up. really have no idea what tony’s fate will be.
Juicy! You should write for the show. Also, you should use your predicitcing skills to place a friendly wager or two on my lines!
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Post by: davepeck on May 13, 2007, 09:56:13 pm
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Post by: kartoon42 on May 13, 2007, 10:00:31 pm
christopher dead, tony eats paiodi (
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Post by: Wolfman on May 13, 2007, 10:11:06 pm
Quote from: Wolfman;144665
Wolfman The Breakfast Bookie is back with some fantastic Sopranos lines!
Tony Dies: 1:1
Odds on individuals to kill Tony:
Chris: 2:1 Phil Leotardo (or his henchmen) 5:1 Janice: 10:1 Uncle Junior: 15:1 AJ: 15:1 Tony himself: 25:1 Carmella: 40:1 Artie Bucco: 100:1 Melfi: 150:1 Field (all others): 10:1
Christopher Dies: 1:2
Odds on individuals to kill Chris:
Paulie Walnuts: 2:1 Chris himself: 5:1 Tony: 6:1 Friend of JT: 8:1 Phil Leotardo (or his henchmen) 20:1 Chris\' wife: 30:1 Adrianna: 500:1 Field (all others) 4:1
Major female dies (Meadow, Melfi, Janice, Carmella) 25:1 Tony and Chris death teaser: 5:1 Tony, Chris and AJ death teaser: 30:1 Paulie dies: 6:1 Over/under on people with the last name "Soprano" to die: 1 Meadow gets naked: 50:1 Final scene of series is of the Sopranos at dinner: 10:1
Tony takes the Chris killer pool at 6:1! Congratulations to all of the winners. This changes things significantly in the Tony death pool since Chris was the favorite to kill Tony.
Updated lines for 5/12:
Tony dies: 1:1.5
Odds on individuals to kill Tony: Chris: OFF Phil Leotardo (or his henchmen) 3:1 Tony himself (whether intentional or accidentally) 7:1 Law enforcement agent: 18:1 AJ: 25:1 Janice: 30:1 Carmella: 30:1 Uncle Junior: 80:1 Artie Bucco: 100:1 Melfi: 150:1 Field (all others): 10:1
Major female dies (Meadow, Melfi, Janice, Carmella) 35:1 Tony and Chris death teaser: 3:2 Tony, Chris and AJ death teaser: 25:1 Paulie dies: 6:1 Over/under on people with the last name "Soprano" to die: 1 Meadow gets naked: 100:1 Final scene of series is of the Sopranos at dinner: 10:1
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Post by: Me! on May 13, 2007, 11:56:42 pm
wow. just fuckin wow.
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Post by: Me! on May 14, 2007, 11:56:48 am
Did anyone else think it was interesting that Sopranos and Entourage ended in nearly the exact same way. A majestic scene with a character with arms raised shouting in triumph.
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 12:13:35 pm
Quote from: Me!;145231
Did anyone else think it was interesting that Sopranos and Entourage ended in nearly the exact same way. A majestic scene with a character with arms raised shouting in triumph.
while the scenery was the same, i wouldn\'t say there was any triumph in tony\'s scene.
tony appeared to be breaking down a bit in the desert. what he did to chris, no matter how \'right\' he thought it was, was eating at him throughout the episode.
he dreams that he tells melfi about it, and tells her why it was the right thing to do. he tells the baby seat story twice, for no one\'s good but his own.
finally in the end, we see him breaking down, looking into the light, and shouting, "I DID IT... I DID IT!". while this may have been tony\'s way of getting it off his chest, i wouldn\'t exactly say he was triumphant.
i loved what this episode did with tony. my biggest problem throughout this series has been that tony, no matter how bad of a person he\'s supposed to be, has always been pretty likable. and we\'re not supposed to like tony. he\'s an evil prick, and with only 3 episodes left, i thought that this episode did a good job of reminding the viewer of that.
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 12:15:25 pm
i should also point out that i couldn\'t decide while watching whether tony said "I DID IT" or "I GET IT". i think it\'s the former, for the reasons i mentioned above, but can\'t say for sure.
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Post by: Me! on May 14, 2007, 12:22:20 pm
Quote from: davepeck;145234
i should also point out that i couldn\'t decide while watching whether tony said "I DID IT" or "I GET IT". i think it\'s the former, for the reasons i mentioned above, but can\'t say for sure.
It was def "I GET IT" I was just on HBO.com reading the "memorable lines" section.
even if not triumphant, arms in the air yelling, majestic scene I found it interesting that\'s all.
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
well there goes that theory..
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 14, 2007, 01:21:34 pm
It was definitely "I Get It" after the sun winked at him........ Like all psychedelic trips, there are amazing realizations to be had..... I wish they would have focused more on Tony\'s trip (maybe even bringing in Terry Gilliam to direct the trip scenes in Vegas and the Nevada desert), as opposed to dragging out Christopher\'s and Paulie\'s aunts death/wake services.
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 01:39:51 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;145240
I wish they would have focused more on Tony\'s trip (maybe even bringing in Terry Gilliam to direct the trip scenes in Vegas and the Nevada desert), as opposed to dragging out Christopher\'s and Paulie\'s aunts death/wake services.
meh.. watch fear and loathing if you want that shit.. i\'m pretty glad they didn\'t go that route.
personally, i thought it was a nice touch how christopher got the last laugh, albeit in death, over paulie (that was his mother, btw).
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 14, 2007, 01:43:52 pm
Oh...I thought it was his aunt that pretended to be his mother........
I guess it didnt have to be all trippy and shit, i just wanted to see more of what Tony was seeing and feeling as far as his "journey"......
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Post by: Me! on May 14, 2007, 01:50:45 pm
Quote from: davepeck;145243
Quote from: Stephengencs;145240
I wish they would have focused more on Tony\'s trip (maybe even bringing in Terry Gilliam to direct the trip scenes in Vegas and the Nevada desert), as opposed to dragging out Christopher\'s and Paulie\'s aunts death/wake services.
meh.. watch fear and loathing if you want that shit.. i\'m pretty glad they didn\'t go that route.
hate to say it but I gotta agree, I thought it was done just right. I was wondering if they were gonna go that route, but I think it worked out perfectly. Maybe it\'s just cause I\'ve been in that state of mind once or twice, and in certain scenes I could totally understatnd how something looked or felt, so for me at least they didn\'t need to go that route.
btw: what was the comment Tony made about the Roulette table ruling the universe or something?
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Post by: Igziabeher on May 14, 2007, 01:51:53 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;145244
Oh...I thought it was his aunt that pretended to be his mother........
thats the one.
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 01:56:29 pm
Quote from: Me!;145246
btw: what was the comment Tony made about the Roulette table ruling the universe or something?
"It\'s the same principle as the solar system."
hilarious!
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Post by: booztravlr on May 14, 2007, 02:06:04 pm
damn those writers for putting down cuse basketball like that. anyone else catch that part?
these past two weeks have been really good. its a shame this show is finally getting back on track only to close out the series in a few weeks. i thought most of the 4th and 5th seasons were pretty dull. speaking of the 4th season, what are the odds the russians have anything going on in the final few episodes?
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Post by: Me! on May 14, 2007, 02:09:57 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;145250
damn those writers for putting down cuse basketball like that. anyone else catch that part?
look at this Syracuse is loosing! :lol: like on top of everything else....
Quote from: booztravlr;145250
speaking of the 4th season, what are the odds the russians have anything going on in the final few episodes?
IMHO slim to none
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Post by: Wolfman on May 14, 2007, 02:23:31 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;145250
what are the odds the russians have anything going on in the final few episodes?
250:1
But hey, the line on "Tony eats peyote" in the last 4 episodes was 2,000:1 so anything can happen!
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Post by: Nermel9 on May 14, 2007, 06:00:10 pm
I\'m still in shock that Christopher is dead. :pout: I mean, I knew he was going to die at the end of the show, but jebus, I didn\'t think Tony would have anything to do with it. That really bothers me for some reason.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 14, 2007, 08:24:45 pm
Quote from: Nermel9;145281
I\'m still in shock that Christopher is dead. :pout: I mean, I knew he was going to die at the end of the show, but jebus, I didn\'t think Tony would have anything to do with it. That really bothers me for some reason.
I am pretty sure that Chris would have died if Tony didnt snuff him out. He was pretty fucked up from the crash.....
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Post by: davepeck on May 14, 2007, 08:26:39 pm
Quote from: Stephengencs;145288
Quote from: Nermel9;145281
I\'m still in shock that Christopher is dead. :pout: I mean, I knew he was going to die at the end of the show, but jebus, I didn\'t think Tony would have anything to do with it. That really bothers me for some reason.
I am pretty sure that Chris would have died if Tony didnt snuff him out. He was pretty fucked up from the crash.....
they did say \'he may have lived\', or \'he could have lived\' (i forget which)..
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Post by: Klout on May 14, 2007, 09:15:23 pm
amazingly good. major shit going down but soooo many subtle things going on as well. I know I didnt catch them all. Carm looking at places to move on the lap top. AJ learning about the evils of materialism in school then flashing to tony pool side at the MGM. I liked the comparison of what tony says in his dream then what he says in real life to melfi.
The whole scene before chris dies is ill too The cleaver hat... "Life\'s too short" ....The soundtrack to the departed. “It’s fuckin killer” “ whatever happened to the stop and smell the roses”..... Another pink floyd tune...comfortably numb taboot...
I also thought it was wierd how entourage ended exactly the same way.Also did anyone notice that Bobby was wearing the same EXACT shirt from the episode of Curb your enthusiasm? the season has really picked up the last two episodes tho.
As for chris living or dying from his injuries....
he was deffinitly fucked up but i think they left it open ended just to keep tony unlikeable till the bitter end. there was a CHANCE he could have lived but TOny ended it because chris was nothing to him besides a liability and a threat and a pain in the ass.
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Post by: Me! on May 15, 2007, 01:01:56 am
Quote from: davepeck;145289
Quote from: Stephengencs;145288
Quote from: Nermel9;145281
I\'m still in shock that Christopher is dead. :pout: I mean, I knew he was going to die at the end of the show, but jebus, I didn\'t think Tony would have anything to do with it. That really bothers me for some reason.
I am pretty sure that Chris would have died if Tony didnt snuff him out. He was pretty fucked up from the crash.....
they did say \'he may have lived\', or \'he could have lived\' (i forget which)..
but he didn\'t......
It was Christopher\'s fate, he def had to go. As Tony said the biggest liability of his career. It was really his own fault, the crash, to me it was like shooting a horse with a broken leg.
Quote from: Klout;145292
Another pink floyd tune...comfortably numb taboot.
the exact same song Tony was singing walking down the stairs at the begining of the last episode.
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Post by: Klout on May 15, 2007, 10:34:13 am
it was almost a mercy killing. I think Tony really was thinking about his daughter as he kept looking back at the car seat with the tree branch through it. THe kid is probably better off with out chris around. They hit on the point too when i think chris\'s mom said something like "she doesn\'t even know...is god wonderful like that". Whats better knowing your dad as a some junky loser liability who might kill you by mistake or not knowing him at all. So i think tony brining up the car seat thing to people was him just trying to have someone agree with him that the kid is better off without chris as a dad.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 15, 2007, 12:46:28 pm
The worst part about last weeks episode: AJ crying to his shrink, "why cant we all just get along?"
Wolfy, what are the odd\'s on AJ squealing to the feds about his family\'s business in order to get them into some kind of protective custody?
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Post by: Me! on May 16, 2007, 01:24:51 am
Quote from: Stephengencs;145356
The [-]worst[/-] funniest part about last weeks episode: AJ crying to his shrink, "why cant we all just get along?"
Quote from: Stephengencs;145356
Wolfy, what are the odd\'s on AJ squealing to the feds about his family\'s business in order to get them into some kind of protective custody?
ooooooo, interesting idea, def plausible.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 18, 2007, 12:35:21 pm
Big-time risk-taking and ambitiousness, major plot developments, intense emotional and psychological material, and the fact that my skin nearly crawled off my body for the majority of the episode, especially the latter scene in the casino, make this earn *****.
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Post by: freddiewaht on May 18, 2007, 12:43:49 pm
second from last episode=90minutes last episode=2+hours(and directed by david chase who also directed the first ever episode).
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Post by: Me! on May 19, 2007, 01:02:05 am
Quote from: freddiewaht;145634
second from last episode=90minutes last episode=2+hours(and directed by david chase who also directed the first ever episode).
is this true or just Wah being Wah
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Post by: booztravlr on May 21, 2007, 09:52:47 am
i was right about aj\'s suicide attempt but i was hoping he would have pulled it off. this combined with meadow being hit on/threatened pushed tony over the edge. cant believe he stomped that guy a la american history x. shit has officially hit the fan with phil. sucks we have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode though.
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Post by: Stephengencs on May 21, 2007, 12:32:25 pm
I thought the drama was skillfully crafted in this episode....I have to change my opinion of AJ after last nights episode. i really came around on him. growing up the only male soprano has got to be a mind fuck and though i thought he was using the "depression" thing as a crutch (like carm pointed out tony has used and was using). but tony would never "off himself" and that, to me, proves that AJ is truly ill and is not using depression as an excuse to slack off and whatnot. The fear, anger, and love that Tony experienced while rescuing AJ was one of the most powerful moments i have seen on TV in a long long time. And I kind of got a Godfather feeling at the end when Tony goes to visit him at the end and AJ comes out as the door closes behind tony. then they walk down the hall as tony puts a very caring hand on his sons shoulder.
Now what is going to happen, I have no idea, but I am excited to see this play out and with Phil being such an old school scum douche ginzo mobster, I am now rooting for Tony and his crew to lay a serious beatdown and straighten out the whole family......will that happen, probably not, but whatever does happen the Soprano immediate family is tigher than ever (i think) and it should make for 2 very interesting final episodes........
I definitely almost spit out my soda when Paulie was telling the story of him being dosed at a Jerry Vale show at the Copa......."laser beams shot out of his fucking eyes".....
I also liked Tony\'s description of his trip to whatshername Lorraine Bracco.......
I am seeing the whole terror thing coming into play somehow. I dont know if it has to do with the pile of asbestos dumped into the jersey swamps. Or how they are going to link AJ\'s all of a sudden interest in the mideaster conflict, but something is gonna go down.......
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 21, 2007, 01:14:45 pm
*****
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Post by: Klout on May 21, 2007, 09:01:35 pm
all out war with phil may be coming. He is too much of a mental case and a prick to avoid it. Either that or Tony just says fuck it all and they bounce. This is the conflict within Tony and without and it is getting fierce on both sides. I think he is leaning toward the side thats telling him "this shit isn\'t worth sacrficing mine and my families life for". With the peyote trip, AJ, what he did to that guy because of meadow...My prediction is that he is going to want to get out for good but its going to be too late when he finally realizes that its not worth it.
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Post by: davepeck on May 21, 2007, 10:12:23 pm
"the 500-pound elephant in the room" rotfl
great ep.
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Post by: Gfunk on May 22, 2007, 02:38:21 pm
Quote from: Me!;145691
Quote from: freddiewaht;145634
second from last episode=90minutes last episode=2+hours(and directed by david chase who also directed the first ever episode).
is this true or just Wah being Wah
nannies
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Post by: davepeck on May 22, 2007, 02:49:25 pm
THE SOPRANOS 85: BLUE COMET Running Time: 51 minutes
THE SOPRANOS 86: MADE IN AMERICA Running Time: 60 minutes
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Post by: freddiewaht on May 22, 2007, 11:20:35 pm
i hope the russian comes back and shoots AJ in the fucking face and then pwns meadows beav while after killing everyone else including carm and furio, tony rides off into the sunset on a horse, wasted on peyote, wearing an english general\'s hat like the one paulie had painted on him in that picture of him and pie-o-my.
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Post by: ChrisPitch on May 24, 2007, 01:16:48 pm
"Bobby did ********* once. Stuffed *********. Whole fuckin\' platter."
"Fuck you."
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Post by: davepeck on June 03, 2007, 09:56:01 pm
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Post by: Overexjoesure on June 04, 2007, 12:27:07 am
What the fuck was David Chase talking about when he said people would hate the ending? I\'m MORE than content with how this show is ending. 10 fucking stars. I\'d like to see The Shah of Iran and his buddy Mr. Weasel end up with some African American roommates in Attica. This way Philly won\'t have to jerk off into a towel anymore.
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Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on June 04, 2007, 01:50:16 am
Quote from: davepeck;147635
closing music was absolutely chilling.
wow.
i agree. can\'t believe this is coming to an end. what an episode...
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Post by: Me! on June 04, 2007, 03:01:09 pm
was watching the Red Sox Yankees last night so I missed this. Not having HBO myself I\'ll have to watch this one before the finale. AND the Sox lost in the top of the ninth! :doh:
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Post by: Spacey on June 04, 2007, 05:17:39 pm
Good episode last night. Can\'t wait for the finale.
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Post by: Klout on June 04, 2007, 06:26:20 pm
i thought the melfi bug out was kinda strange/lame
but I gotta admit that was well played by phil with the decoy ...well played indeed.
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Post by: davepeck on June 04, 2007, 06:57:50 pm
Quote from: Klout;147760
but I gotta admit that was well played by phil with the decoy ...well played indeed.
decoy? dunno if i\'d call it that..
that was phil\'s goomah\'s house. turns out she lives with her father, who the idiot italians mistook for phil..
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Post by: Klout on June 04, 2007, 07:02:14 pm
i took it as being a decoy because it looked just like phil and then phil had dropped out of site for 5 days after putting the order out. Guess maybe it was just a coinicidence though.
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Post by: davepeck on June 05, 2007, 02:58:48 pm
7 minute Sopranos refresher course:
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Post by: ChrisPitch on June 07, 2007, 02:03:04 pm
Well, I can\'t say I\'m entirely convinced that Melfi would throw Tony aside after six years of grueling work together, some of which led to progress, including this year, simply based on one study that was thrown into the mix just a week prior. Melfi had never previously alluded to any of the major points made in the study and therefore this resolution of the plot line which the show was initially based around seems rushed, forced, and largely unbelievable to me. Granted, the scene between the two was well done ("you don\'t need a gynecologist to know which way the wind blows"), but I will be highly disappointed with the show\'s conclusion if that situation isn\'t addressed in the finale.
As far as the rest of the episode goes, it\'s easy to be sold when one key character dies and another nearly does, but it takes more than that to make an episode a classic. I\'m not saying I didn\'t like this episode. Of course, last 10 minutes were chilling, especially the very end. And I like that both of Tony\'s families are at a crossroads and that his "unofficial" family may be done for good (though I certainly don\'t think New York has heard the last from Jersey). So I\'m as eager as ever to see how everything pans out, but I definitely did not like this episode as much as the few that preceded it. And that shouldn\'t be the case considering the monumental things that occurred. The drama just didn\'t affect my insides nearly the same way it did when Chris died and A.J. "tried" to.
Loved the Raging Bull stuff though.
****1/2
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Post by: Spacey on June 07, 2007, 02:36:25 pm
Personally, I don\'t see closure to the Soprano\'s unless Tony mets his maker. It will be interesting to see how they wrap this up.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 10, 2007, 10:37:34 pm
Closure? I am so confused by the ending of this series, that my head is still spinning......Now I am assuming they left it up to the viewers imagination whether it was gonna be a happily ever after ending or a textbook gangland ending......but to just cut out of the scene so abruptly, come on now. It definitely felt like a copout ending......like they figured that no matter what happened, people would be pissed if tony got killed, and some people would be pissed if he didnt get killed, so they just said, "fuck it, lets piss em all off".....
However, Wolfy\'s odds on the series ending with the family sitting around the dinner table, has to be some kind of default or push at this point.....Wolfy, official call?
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Post by: Overexjoesure on June 10, 2007, 10:45:53 pm
The last scene was meant to place the viewer in Tony\'s psychological state. Each shot, and quick edit showed Tony\'s constant anxiety. That even the simplest activity as a family dinner carries neverending worry and paranoia. Not only that, but Chase gave a big fuck you to TV. Everyone bitched and moaned about the lack of action, and loose ends the show had. Chase created a piece of art. A portrait of a dysfunctional American family, who regardless of their family business, touched the raw human nerves of its viewers. It was an intellectual show and could be dissected 50 ways from Friday. In the end he chose the angle, "Life isn\'t a TV show. It just is". And to lay that on the Sopranos demographic. Well, that takes balls.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 10, 2007, 11:05:32 pm
Quote from: TreyChica;148439
The last scene was meant to place the viewer in Tony\'s psychological state. Each shot, and quick edit showed Tony\'s constant anxiety. That even the simplest activity as a family dinner carries neverending worry and paranoia. Not only that, but Chase gave a big fuck you to TV.
Thanks Siskel.....
If that ending was a big "fuck you" to TV, then I hope the TV community turns on him and devours him whole....Why say fuck you to a medium that has made you as rich and successful as TV has for him....
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Post by: Igziabeher on June 10, 2007, 11:08:37 pm
I think you\'re taking it a little too literally there. the show itself was just a peak into the life of an American family. granted it wasn\'t your normal american family, but he made a wise choice by ending it w/ little closure. thats the way life goes.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on June 10, 2007, 11:08:53 pm
It\'s not the ending, but the journey that matters. The show had two purposes: to make you feel, and to make you think. If you wanted dimestore programming maybe you should\'ve stuck to 24 ;) HBO original programming is the equivalent to literature.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 10, 2007, 11:11:55 pm
Well I feel pissed that the ending was so abrupt and ambiguous and I think that it was a bullshit copout ending.....
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Post by: Igziabeher on June 10, 2007, 11:16:38 pm
if you\'re pissed, then he probably got his point across.
would you rather see it go out in a blaze of glory? its not Scarface. would you rather see everyone go to jail? it ain\'t Goodfellas. it was a glimpse into 7 years of a families life. glad i got to watch it.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 10, 2007, 11:21:06 pm
I definitely didnt have any kind of expectations on the ending of the show, but i thought it would have an ending.......in my opinion it was a MEH episode and a bullshit copout ending......i am not taking anything away from the show or the actors or the direction or storyline....i just thought it was horseshit for it to end like that.....
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Post by: wildcoyote on June 10, 2007, 11:40:25 pm
The last episode exceeded my expectations. A few things I liked:
- Opening scene where a sleeping Tony looks as if he\'s in a coffin.
- Through out Tony taking care of his family. His lone redeeming quality, even if he is enabling some weak people
-Phil\'s brutual demise. He was a catalyst for many problems. No open casket for him.
I also really liked the ending. It showed Tony\'s dilema. The only joy he gets in life is from spoiling his family, but it comes at the cost of never being able to truly relax.
Perfect.
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Post by: Tweety_Gal on June 11, 2007, 12:23:56 am
Have to agree with Gencs here, going to see my psychiatrist now....Whineberg.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 01:03:59 am
The stuff with Paulie, the cat, and the picture of Christopher was truly priceless.....
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Post by: weekapaug19 on June 11, 2007, 08:44:45 am
I didn\'t see it but read about it, and it sounds really really crappy to end the show like that....I\'m kinda glad I didn\'t go out of my way to see this episode. Hopefully the dvd\'s will have all the different endings they shot
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Post by: booztravlr on June 11, 2007, 09:29:35 am
i thought that was a great ending to a classic show. there is no need for closure...this isnt a movie. the whole point of the dinner, as mentioned before, was to show life through the eyes of tony. every time the door opened up he had to see who was coming in. even a casual dinner with his family was a stressful event for him since he was out in public.
i came across this at another board. i recognized the boy scouts so im assuming the rest is correct too.
"From the HBO message boards:
The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2 (DVD players). The trucker had to identify his brother\'s body. The boy scouts were in the train store when Bobby was killed and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear."
i remember tony fighting with the two black guys but i thought he had killed them both during their altercation.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 10:59:03 am
so then maybe the abrupt ending was, from tonys perspective, "lights out" cause someone capped him right at that point.....hmmmmm
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Post by: davepeck on June 11, 2007, 11:31:33 am
overall = dogshit.
didn\'t feel like a series finale AT ALL. had the whole \'just another episode\' feeling the entire time, which was a bit of a let down.
there were things about the episode that i LOVED, and i\'ll give credit where credit is due:
phil\'s death scene. fantastic. \'say bye bye to grandpa!\' followed by the pops and the suv crushing his head.. great, great stuff.
the scene with tony and uncle june. wow. one of the most emotional scenes in recent history. tony looking like he\'s on the brink of tears when he realized june has no idea who he is.. very moving.
the cat = spirit of adrianna.
the whole final sequence (with the exception of the ending) was amazing. the way the tension was building with every second was phenomonal. it had you on the edge of your seat the entire time. and then.... nothing.
the abrupt ending killed it. it just seemed awkward and out of place, and all of america thought their cable went out at the worst possible moment.
when meadow was having trouble parking her car, i expected her to walk in just in time to see tony be killed. i also thought she might be run over when running across the street, but whatever..
i hated where it ended. i\'ll even follow chase\'s lead and tell you what i would have been more satisfied with:
get meadow into the fucking place. sit her down at the table with everyone. have the guy walk out of the bathroom on his way back. tony looks up at him, and you see everyone else look up at him as well. fade to black.
sure, i\'d probably still be bitching today, but i just thought that ending it with meadow at the door was awfully weird.
*maybe* tony was killed. in the opening of season 6.2, tony and bobby were in the boat talking about how you don\'t hear anything when it happens. but you know what? i don\'t want to hear anything about the ending being left up to the interpretation of the viewer. fuck. that. i don\'t get paid to write the fucking show. you wrote it, you tell me what the fuck happens! shit, if it were up to me, it would have started raining while meadow was parking her car, she would have gotten out, walked into the middle of the street, and taken all her clothes off, carressing herself in the rain. but again, i didn\'t write the show. tell me how it ends.
seems fucking retarded for a show that has NEVER DONE CLIFFHANGERS, to give you a fucking cliffhanger to end the series.
not to mention that the entire episode was extremely fucking jumpy.
before season 6.2 started, i had a conversation with chrispitch. i told him that whether it was fair or not, the sopranos finale would have to be judged/compared to the six feet under finale (which i believe was the best finale in television history).
well, i won\'t be losing any sleep trying to decide which one was better, that\'s for sure.
a great final (half) season, which will unfortunately be clouded by an extremely mediocre finale.
:thumbsdow
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Post by: freddiewaht on June 11, 2007, 11:42:26 am
bring back nate fisher/6ftV.... im glad we didnt see t get killed. im pleased with the outcome/ending.. excellent work,mr.chase...
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Post by: Spacey on June 11, 2007, 11:54:10 am
not all that good of an ending. best part was Phil getting whacked 42 minutes in to the show.
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Post by: Whathefunk on June 11, 2007, 11:58:28 am
Quote from: davepeck;148464
phil\'s death scene. fantastic. \'say bye bye to grandpa!\' followed by the pops and the suv crushing his head.. great, great stuff.
totally ripped off from six feet under. but not done as well.
Quote from: davepeck;148464
before season 6.2 started, i had a conversation with chrispitch. i told him that whether it was fair or not, the sopranos finale would have to be judged/compared to the six feet under finale (which i believe was the best finale in television history).
well, i won\'t be losing any sleep trying to decide which one was better, that\'s for sure.
no question which was better, but i gotta say that the whole premise behind 6ft ("everything ends") lends itself for a much better finale. the only actual finale that the sopranos could have is that of a greek tragedy in which everyone dies, good and bad. but since that didn;t happen you can\'t have a real ending, bc this is a family that will keep living their life day after day.
pretty much i think that sopranos is one of, if not, the greatest shows i\'ve ever been priveliged to follow through its 7 years, and i\'m happy to have experienced it in full. i remember watching the first epi in my bedroom when i was like in 8th grade. caught my interest and imagination form the start and never lost it until the fade to black.
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Post by: Klout on June 11, 2007, 12:25:44 pm
I thought that was an amazing episode and a very fitting ending to the show.
It was also a brilliant, TENSION FILLED last scene. I dont remember the last time I was so on the edge of my seat over a tv show as I was during that scene in the diner.
To me that the whole show is about right there. Dying to know whats going to happen next.
It’s a glimpse into the lives of a family not a movie with a clear beginning middle and end.
Tony once again come out on top on the business level and manages to take over the ny Crew, and everything is looking up for his immediate family, BUT he is experiencing new levels of stress, paranoia, anxiety, and emotional out bursts and badly needing to get back into therapy.
The black was also definitely was intended to make us wonder if it was just lights out for him. You see the meadow running toward the restaurant, you hear the door open but you don’t see who comes in. Last shot is tony reaching for something...is it quarters for the juke box or his gun?
The last scene also just transposes the two lives or families of Tony. All in all it was true to the series. All the loose ends are never tied up but life always goes on. Pauly even says it at the table with the youngsters....’Whatya gonna do....Life Goes On’
So even though its left open with no cliche mob ending which I was thankful for. It was to good and original of series to go out with something predictable. I think people are pissed today because the creators also definitely toyed with our heads by putting in some very classic mob scenes throughout the episode that seemed to be setting a tone for a classic mob story ending.
.... The funeral with FBI taking pictures
.... The throw back FBI scenes of wire taps and surveillance
....The Safe house just full of guys with guns in war time (w/The Twilight Zone on TV)
....The sit down in the warehouse.
...Paulie’s last scene sitting in front of Satrialli’s Tanning after getting the jinxed promotion and the cats walks into the shot was classic.
Geese flying by the backyard.
....also The phil hit starts out real straight up OG real gangster then gets hilarious when phil’s head gets smushed and the black dudes are like ooooowwww then that weird midget guy goes ‘OH SHIT!’ and then a black guy pukes.....as the car with the two babies is still rolling into the street.
For AJ things are really looking up for at this point. Everyone hated on AJ most of the season when he was being a whiney bitch but I think all in all it was good coming of age story. He avoided going down the same path as Tony. He overcame his depression, at least for the moment and is with a hot girl, and going into films to probably make movies to channel all of his emotion and things he wants to say into. His last scene leaving work, picking up his girl in the bmw and the song playing “scratch your name into the fabric of this world before you go” was great I thougt.
There were a few minor things I didnt like....Carlo flipping after all that shit just went down just to get his son out of an ecstacy charge is pretty unbelievable, but I guess they just needed a way to quickly regenerate the ever-looming threat of incarceration.
Anyway it just goes on and on and on and onnnnnn....
One of the best shows ever. I think I am gonna wait like 5 years now and then watch the whole thing over again :)
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 12:39:43 pm
Tony is dead.... why was meadow running into the restaurant? if she didnt see someone shooting her dad in the head...... end of series.... the only real question is whether the whole family got wacked.
im gonna go rent goodfellas tonight.....
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Post by: Klout on June 11, 2007, 12:44:59 pm
she was running cause she was late
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 12:54:00 pm
Quote from: Klout;148479
she was running cause she was late
with a look of horror on her face? come on brah.... well maybe she saw tony eating the last onion ring....
I have officially convinced myself that Tony = dead. Series over. After watching Goodfellas, I\'m gonna go rent Casino.....
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Post by: freddiewaht on June 11, 2007, 12:55:32 pm
Quote from: Klout;148479
she was running cause she is/was a horrific parralel parker..
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Post by: booztravlr on June 11, 2007, 12:57:59 pm
^^ throw Heat in the mix for the deniro triple play. thats prob my fav movie of all time...that or the good the bad and the ugly.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 01:00:39 pm
Tony = dead as a doornail.
After Goodfellas and Casino, I am gonna go rent A Bronx Tale....though deniro was a good guy in the movie, it was his directorial debut and a nice juxtaposition to the other 2.....
That, Jason, is my Deniro Gangsta Hat Trick........Though I was watching Heat last night.....Great flick in its own right....
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Post by: davepeck on June 11, 2007, 01:16:05 pm
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Post by: freddiewaht on June 11, 2007, 01:21:29 pm
also,she might have just been shittin her pants a little after phils guys rolled up on her..
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 11, 2007, 01:26:40 pm
Mary McNamara, of the LA Times writes:
Quote
Chase is possibly the only man in America who could get away with such a thing, and maybe he shouldn’t. While it is one thing to flout the conventions of television, it’s another to flip dramatic tradition, not to mention your audience, the bird. No, he didn’t owe us any neat endings, nor some sort of final word on the nature of good and evil. But after eight years, he did owe us catharsis, some sort of emotional experience that would, if not sum up the entire eight years, leave us with something more meaningful than instant panic and lingering irritation. In the end, the art of writing is the art of making choices. Ending a series with the social weight of “The Sopranos” is not an enviable task, but end it must, and not with the sophomoric gesture of a blank screen.
Yes, people will be talking about the show tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, but they probably won’t be talking about Tony Soprano or any of the work the very fine cast of actors and writers has done over the years. They’ll be talking about how frustrating the blank screen was. In fear of tainting the legacy of “The Sopranos” — if Tony really was just one more truly bad man, some viewers would feel betrayed; if he went from antihero to hero, others would feel the same — if he went from antihero to hero, others would feel the same -- Chase has offered us instead an epic novel with a do-it-yourself ending.
And, of course, the distinct possibility of "The Sopranos: The Movie."
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Post by: Igziabeher on June 11, 2007, 01:35:47 pm
Mary McNamara complaints can be thrown out for not proofreading her work well enough:
" if Tony really was just one more truly bad man, some viewers would feel betrayed; if he went from antihero to hero, others would feel the same — if he went from antihero to hero, others would feel the same -- Chase has offered us instead an epic novel with a do-it-yourself ending."
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Post by: davepeck on June 11, 2007, 01:42:19 pm
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Post by: kartoon42 on June 11, 2007, 05:25:52 pm
possibly the worst show finale ive ever seen. on the contrary to what that lady said in the article ^^^^, they DID owe us a crazy ending because its the F\'in sopranos, a show with millions of viewers and a cult like following. they let the show end like that?!?! what a slap in the face. how can they follow up the previous 2 wild episodes with a shitty finale like that, its like it was the ending of a season, not the show.
booo to HBO :no:
hoooray beer! :beerban:
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on June 11, 2007, 06:24:56 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;148456
"From the HBO message boards: The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2 (DVD players). The trucker had to identify his brother\'s body. The boy scouts were in the train store when Bobby was killed and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear." i remember tony fighting with the two black guys but i thought he had killed them both during their altercation.
I said I liked it before, and I like it even better now knowing this. Is he about to be whacked or is just showing how he stained the lives of others to provide spoils for himself and family?
Is Tony dead? Best left unanswered. The black could be symbolic as we mainly see the show through his eyes. I\'ll have to see the episode again, but Meadow looks tense, but not horrified (like watching her pop get shot) to me.
Openly killing Tony would have been gratuitous.
I don\'t like my art literal. Ever have a song that meant something to you personally, then find out the writer had something completely different in mind? Kind of ruins the song for me when it happens. I prefer my interpretation, always.
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Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 07:18:12 pm
Well that\'s the second-best thing about art- it\'s open to interpretation.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:05:52 pm
What is the first best thing about art?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 08:07:45 pm
Well, obviously this is totally subjective. So I should have tagged that with an IMO.
The best thing is that art is so effective as a means of self expression and as an emotional and intellectual outlet.
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Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:14:06 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;148556
The best thing is that art is so effective as a means of self expression and as an emotional and intellectual outlet.
I didnt really have an answer but I was curious to what yours was.....definitely would agree with you
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 11, 2007, 08:15:44 pm
Quote from: booztravlr;148456
"From the HBO message boards:
The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2 (DVD players). The trucker had to identify his brother\'s body. The boy scouts were in the train store when Bobby was killed and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear."
pretty sure this was debunked.
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Post by: jocelyn on June 12, 2007, 01:26:52 am
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Post by: davepeck on June 12, 2007, 01:29:23 pm
the ending pissed me off even more when i watched it for the second time last night.. :mad:
i wanted to like it the second time.. i really did..
a couple things:
the whole nikki leotardo thing is pretty much undeniable horseshit. the guy was credited as "Man in Members Only Jacket". Paolo Colandrea. he is not credited in Episode 72 on the season 6 DVD (not on IMDb either). sorry chip.
holsten\'s doesn\'t even sell onion rings.
http://www.holstens.com/
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Post by: Spacey on June 12, 2007, 02:04:13 pm
the black screen at the end symbolised the show getting whacked.
Title: Thoughts Following Two Grueling Watches
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 12, 2007, 02:11:40 pm
OK, let\'s take it one step at a time.
I almost like that Tony and Carm sort of bought out A.J., proving that he was the pretentious phony I assumed all along. But overall, for me it diminishes the dramatic impact of what happened with him in the prior episodes and so I ultimately don\'t like the direction that went.
I also didn’t think it was at all believable that Carlo would flip just cause his son got busted with Ecstasy. I mean, it\'s not like he was facing 20-to-life for that. But then again, how would we know? We didn\'t even see that scene. I guess it was more important to show Hunter, who coincidentally, is played by David Chase\'s daughter. That was certainly a forced scene which added little and was something else I didn’t like.
And though I liked Paulie’s situation with the cat, I thought the stuff between the cat and Chris was beyond stupid.
And overall, I just felt this episode was a bit too timid for a series finale. It definitely lacked intensity. There were very few moments were I felt any emotional reaction to anything, especially in the first half. I didn’t think this episode wasn\'t sharply written. It featured mostly pedestrian dialogue. You can probably pick any Sopranos episode out of a hat—or any episode of most HBO dramas—and chances are it would be better than this one. It was without question one of the weakest Sopranos\' episodes ever and that was set in stone well before the ending.
To be fair, there were some things I did like:
1. The overhead shot of the food with the overheard conversational mumblings.
2. Butch walking from Little Italy to Little China without noticing it. Chase made sure he threw in the whole thing on the bus\'s public address about how the former used to be 40 square blocks and is now just one street, which was great.
3. Agent Harris, who for my money, was the episode\'s MVP and delivered far-and-away the best line with, "We’re gonna win this thing." Hilarious.
4. The SUV\'s explosion was clearly symbolic and ties into much of the political flavor this season has had with frequent mentions of Iraq and oil, which is fine by me.
5. Of course, the Tony and Junior scene, which was unquestionably my favorite one in the episode.
OK, about the ending.
Despite the obvious vision of Tony in a coffin to start things off, there is nothing in this episode to indicate that he would get killed. That would have nullified everything which transpired between Jersey and New York. Plus, I refuse to believe that Chase would kill his main character in the last scene without showing any of the aftermath. That would just be stupid. So, after much deliberation, I’ve concluded that there is no logical reason whatsoever to believe that Tony is dead at the end. You don’t see Meadow come through the door. But she is the last person we see before the last shot with Tony so I can only conclude that he is looking at her. The parallel parking baffles me. It’s obviously a tension builder, but I think that scene had enough tension as it was without needing Meadow\'s parking struggles.
So for me, Chase is actually not leaving the ending open-ended. Granted, I can understand how the abruptness would piss off people and I’m not saying that I thought it was a classic ending. Overall, it was an mediocre episode with an average ending. But I do like how Chase shows how amidst all the turmoil, the Sopranos have survived. Well, at least, they\'ve survived for now. I think Chase did a good job of showing both sides of the coin. On the one hand, the family is reasonably happy to just be alive and together, but on the other hand, this saga for them will never end, especially for Tony, who must always live his life in fear of being killed.
The thing with the very end is, since I don\'t believe Tony is going to get killed and that Meadow will just enter and they\'ll talk about all "the good times" and enjoy the onion rings, I can understand why Chase didn\'t want to fade to black with Journey playing in the background (which I was not big on at all). That would have been a bit too cheery of an ending for an otherwise morose show. So he played it down the middle, showing that the Sopranos are happy all things considered, but that the uneasiness will always be prevalent in Tony. I have to say, that although I didn’t love this ending, that I liked it better than if he had been killed in the last scene (wouldn\'t have minded if it was earlier in the season) and that I also liked it better than if Meadow had come in and they chatted and then faded to black. My initial reaction to the ending was rage, but after a second watch, and much thought, I can actually see why Chase decided to go that route. He definitely ended the show on an uncomfortable and anxious note, which does undoubtedly fits the nature of the show.
Again, I completely understand how people could think it was left open-ended and how infuriating that is. The last scene had tension, tension, tension, and then no release. It\'s more than fair to say that the Sopranos is an all-time show, which jerked around its audience at times, and then had a chance to make it all good by going out in a way that would absolutely wow it\'s loyal audience—which has put up with inconsistency in the latter seasons and longer breaks between seasons than occur between most movie sequels—and then failed to do so. I totally understand how some people could feel that Chase didn\'t have the conviction to trust either of his two possible endings and consequently decided to go with no ending.
But what I\'m saying is entirely predicated on the notion that if Tony was going to die, he would have died already and I believe there is a plethora of evidence to support that claim. I do not think that Tony died. I think Meadow just came in and they talked, and considering that we know what would have transpired then, there really wasn\'t any reason to show what happened. Instead, we end with the anxiety that has been prevalent in the protagonist’s head since the show\'s first scene.
In numerous ways, this episode disappointed me. It was comparatively one of the weakest episodes of the series and hate when I get that from a finale. And overall, the latter seasons were not nearly as good as the first. But then again, the show created an early body of work that anybody would have been hard-pressed to match. And to its credit, the show never traveled down the road of cliché and Chase made sure that continued through the end, as bitter as that ending turned out to be for most viewers.
**** out of *****
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Me! on June 12, 2007, 11:01:56 pm
being my first chance to chime in on this thread all I can really say is I\'m really dissapointed. I contacted numerous people in other parts of the country to see if their cable went out. I had myself convinced that there was a problem with HBO\'s feed or something, cause they wouldn\'t actually end it that way!!! Many of the points Dave brought up I had mentioned to people before coming on here. at least let Meadow get in sit down, or not but christ at least let her get in the door. I\'m pretty annoyed at the way this whole thing went down. I\'m just gonna pretend the 2nd to last episode was the last, now if you wanna "leave it to the viewer" do it that way. The intensity of Tony sitting on the coverless bed gun in hand with that creepy horror movie music was perfect. I think that portrays the state of mind that Tony is generally in (obviously greatly elivated) Again I agree with Dave, you wrote you tell us how it ends.
My feeling of frustration goes beyond merely the end, the episode was weak. It had it\'s moments that were gems, but all in all nothing special. and yeah it\'s about the journey (:rolleyes:) but that\'s our last moment with these characters that have become such a part of our lives?
Like I said I\'m pretending the 2nd to last was the last.
all for now.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: SlimPickens on June 13, 2007, 08:59:14 am
Quote from: ChrisPitch;148703
OK, let\'s take it one step at a time.
I almost like that Tony and Carm sort of bought out A.J., proving that he was the pretentious phony I assumed all along. But overall, for me it diminishes the dramatic impact of what happened with him in the prior episodes and so I ultimately don\'t like the direction that went.
I also didn’t think it was at all believable that Carlo would flip just cause his son got busted with Ecstasy. I mean, it\'s not like he was facing 20-to-life for that. But then again, how would we know? We didn\'t even see that scene. I guess it was more important to show Hunter, who coincidentally, is played by David Chase\'s daughter. That was certainly a forced scene which added little and was something else I didn’t like.
And though I liked Paulie’s situation with the cat, I thought the stuff between the cat and Chris was beyond stupid.
And overall, I just felt this episode was a bit too timid for a series finale. It definitely lacked intensity. There were very few moments were I felt any emotional reaction to anything, especially in the first half. I didn’t think this episode wasn\'t sharply written. It featured mostly pedestrian dialogue. You can probably pick any Sopranos episode out of a hat—or any episode of most HBO dramas—and chances are it would be better than this one. It was without question one of the weakest Sopranos\' episodes ever and that was set in stone well before the ending.
To be fair, there were some things I did like:
1. The overhead shot of the food with the overheard conversational mumblings.
2. Butch walking from Little Italy to Little China without noticing it. Chase made sure he threw in the whole thing on the bus\'s public address about how the former used to be 40 square blocks and is now just one street, which was great.
3. Agent Harris, who for my money, was the episode\'s MVP and delivered far-and-away the best line with, "We’re gonna win this thing." Hilarious.
4. The SUV\'s explosion was clearly symbolic and ties into much of the political flavor this season has had with frequent mentions of Iraq and oil, which is fine by me.
5. Of course, the Tony and Junior scene, which was unquestionably my favorite one in the episode.
OK, about the ending.
Despite the obvious vision of Tony in a coffin to start things off, there is nothing in this episode to indicate that he would get killed. That would have nullified everything which transpired between Jersey and New York. Plus, I refuse to believe that Chase would kill his main character in the last scene without showing any of the aftermath. That would just be stupid. So, after much deliberation, I’ve concluded that there is no logical reason whatsoever to believe that Tony is dead at the end. You don’t see Meadow come through the door. But she is the last person we see before the last shot with Tony so I can only conclude that he is looking at her. The parallel parking baffles me. It’s obviously a tension builder, but I think that scene had enough tension as it was without needing Meadow\'s parking struggles.
So for me, Chase is actually not leaving the ending open-ended. Granted, I can understand how the abruptness would piss off people and I’m not saying that I thought it was a classic ending. Overall, it was an mediocre episode with an average ending. But I do like how Chase shows how amidst all the turmoil, the Sopranos have survived. Well, at least, they\'ve survived for now. I think Chase did a good job of showing both sides of the coin. On the one hand, the family is reasonably happy to just be alive and together, but on the other hand, this saga for them will never end, especially for Tony, who must always live his life in fear of being killed.
The thing with the very end is, since I don\'t believe Tony is going to get killed and that Meadow will just enter and they\'ll talk about all "the good times" and enjoy the onion rings, I can understand why Chase didn\'t want to fade to black with Journey playing in the background (which I was not big on at all). That would have been a bit too cheery of an ending for an otherwise morose show. So he played it down the middle, showing that the Sopranos are happy all things considered, but that the uneasiness will always be prevalent in Tony. I have to say, that although I didn’t love this ending, that I liked it better than if he had been killed in the last scene (wouldn\'t have minded if it was earlier in the season) and that I also liked it better than if Meadow had come in and they chatted and then faded to black. My initial reaction to the ending was rage, but after a second watch, and much thought, I can actually see why Chase decided to go that route. He definitely ended the show on an uncomfortable and anxious note, which does undoubtedly fits the nature of the show.
Again, I completely understand how people could think it was left open-ended and how infuriating that is. The last scene had tension, tension, tension, and then no release. It\'s more than fair to say that the Sopranos is an all-time show, which jerked around its audience at times, and then had a chance to make it all good by going out in a way that would absolutely wow it\'s loyal audience—which has put up with inconsistency in the latter seasons and longer breaks between seasons than occur between most movie sequels—and then failed to do so. I totally understand how some people could feel that Chase didn\'t have the conviction to trust either of his two possible endings and consequently decided to go with no ending.
But what I\'m saying is entirely predicated on the notion that if Tony was going to die, he would have died already and I believe there is a plethora of evidence to support that claim. I do not think that Tony died. I think Meadow just came in and they talked, and considering that we know what would have transpired then, there really wasn\'t any reason to show what happened. Instead, we end with the anxiety that has been prevalent in the protagonist’s head since the show\'s first scene.
In numerous ways, this episode disappointed me. It was comparatively one of the weakest episodes of the series and hate when I get that from a finale. And overall, the latter seasons were not nearly as good as the first. But then again, the show created an early body of work that anybody would have been hard-pressed to match. And to its credit, the show never traveled down the road of cliché and Chase made sure that continued through the end, as bitter as that ending turned out to be for most viewers.
**** out of *****
Now that\'s some fuckin solid analysis for ya!
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: booztravlr on June 14, 2007, 02:13:10 pm
another take on the last episode, mainly the restaurant sequence.
http://aphorisic.livejournal.com/189395.html
Title: Think Tony Soprano\'s dead? You might be right!
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2007, 01:48:26 pm
Quote from: Reuters
LOS ANGELES, California -- Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said Thursday they may be on to something.
One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.
"While he won\'t say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who\'ve guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.
"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said. (Watch viewers try to make sense of the end Video)
Chase himself suggested as much in an interview Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it\'s all there."
In the final moments of Sunday\'s concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don\'t Stop Believin\'," blares from a juke box.
Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant\'s entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.
Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.
Even star James Gandolfini wasn\'t sure.
"You have to ask (\'The Sopranos\' creator) David Chase that. Smarter minds than mine know the answer to that," Gandolfini told the New York Daily News. "I thought it was a great ending. You decide."
The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America\'s greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.
The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby "Bacala" Baccalieri, muse about what it feels like to die.
"At the end, you probably don\'t hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate "Sopranos" episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war.
"I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at," Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony\'s death.
Moreover, he said the man in the "Members Only" jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. "Members Only" also was the title of the episode in which Tony\'s demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut.
The "Members Only" guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony\'s New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale.
CNN Link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/15/television.sopranos.reut/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
Interesting Reuters Link (http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN0644006120070615)
This was basically the conclusion I came to a few hours into Monday about the ending. I was not sure if Tony was whacked, the audience or the show.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 15, 2007, 02:12:47 pm
Quote from: Reuters
"At the end, you probably don\'t hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
jesus fucking christ, is it really that fucking hard for people to fucking check their facts before they type?!
BOBBY NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT!!!
the line:
"You probably don\'t even hear it when it happens, eh?"
THAT\'S IT.
i love how people love to make shit up in order to support their asinine theories..
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2007, 02:22:39 pm
Quote from: davepeck;149046
Quote from: Reuters
"At the end, you probably don\'t hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.
jesus fucking christ, is it really that fucking hard for people to fucking check their facts before they type?!
BOBBY NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT!!!
the line:
"You probably don\'t even hear it when it happens, eh?"
THAT\'S IT.
i love how people love to make shit up in order to support their asinine theories..
I was wondering what the actual dialogue was between Bobby and Tony in the boat. Didn\'t Tony mention something like "Why don\'t you ask your friend the worm down there?" or something. I\'m going to watch on demand right now.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 15, 2007, 02:26:01 pm
tony said ask your friend on the wall (the guy bobby shot earlier in the ep).
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2007, 02:38:18 pm
Quote from: davepeck;149059
tony said ask your friend on the wall (the guy bobby shot earlier in the ep).
thanks for the clarification. I had trouble understanding that.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 15, 2007, 03:02:02 pm
Quote from: Spacey;149069
Quote from: davepeck;149059
tony said ask your friend on the wall (the guy bobby shot earlier in the ep).
thanks for the clarification. I had trouble understanding that.
actually, before anyone (else) has a chance to call me on this..
tony is referring to the moose on the wall. bobby doesn\'t shoot the guy til later in the episode..
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2007, 03:20:29 pm
just went back to watch that part of the episode and now I wonder where all this "it goes black" talk came from...
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Overexjoesure on June 15, 2007, 06:13:40 pm
It came from some pretentious journalist preying on the ADHD laden, average Soprano viewer to further their career.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Spacey on June 15, 2007, 07:26:38 pm
must have been, or collective thought conscience among Soprano viewers with the same idea.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Rujah on June 15, 2007, 07:28:14 pm
Quote from: TreyChica;149155
It came from some pretentious journalist preying on the ADHD laden, average Soprano viewer to further their career.
Hey now, I have stayed out of this conversation since I have only watched the past three seasons and have no idea what to make of the final two episodes. Although my bro gets free cable, he does not get HBO so I downloaded the last two episodes and have watched twice still not sure what to think of them. All I have to say about them now is the first episode of the entire season starts with Tony blacking out (or so I have been told) and so it appears the last one ends with him blacking out, or getting whack, however you interpret it. Maybe it was the show finally getting whack or the audience. Chase left it up for us to figure out.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 15, 2007, 07:33:29 pm
what?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Overexjoesure on June 15, 2007, 09:45:55 pm
Quote from: davepeck;149171
what?
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: Wolfman on June 27, 2007, 05:09:40 pm
Absolute MUST read for all Sopranos watchers. A very insightful and alarming look into the last episode. I knew there had to be more than meets the eye going on in this episode, I just haven\'t had any time to go back and watch it several times. But come on, this show was built on symbolism and being capable of anything, I knew there was more. This guy nails a lot of it.
http://www.bobharris.com/content/view/1406/1/ Thanks to Sports Guy Bill Simmons for the link
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: wildcoyote on June 27, 2007, 11:36:25 pm
That was EXCELLENT. Thanks for the link.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: ChrisPitch on June 28, 2007, 02:05:03 pm
Enough valid points to make me reconsider my original position, however...
1. If the Members Only guy killed Tony after coming out of the bathroom, then why doesn\'t Tony look in his direction when startled instead of straight ahead, which is the opposite direction of the bathroom.
2. If the Members Only guy is going to kill Tony, wouldn\'t he try to be a bit more inconspicuous, rather than glance at Tony about a hundred times before offing him.
3. If New York wanted to kill Tony by luring him into a false sense of security in order to whack him, that\'s fine. But in that case, why would they let Jersey kill Phil too? Just so Butchie could take over New York? There\'s nothing that alludes to that at any point. Furthermore, New York didn\'t set up that sit down; Tony did. So there really is no evidence whatsoever of a master plan by New York to kill both bosses.
4. About the "you probably don\'t even hear it when it happens," line. Sure, that could be in reference to Tony. Or, it could be in reference to Bobby seeing as how the line is directed at him and he actually does get killed.
5. About the song: the notion that Don\'t Stop Believin\' is a message to Carm to keep going strong after Tony\'s death is laughable analysis at best. I mean, she\'d have every expectation to stop believing after seeing her husband get killed in front of her kids. If you\'re going to analyze the song in reference to the final outcome, how about considering the line, "it goes on and on and on," being sung as Tony is talking about the impending indictments. Or the last words heard in the history of the show, which are "don\'t stop."
I don\'t know. I\'m sure it\'s fun to pretend to be a detective and read between the lines and find all these cute little clues to force symbolism. Or you can pay attention to what actually happened. Either way. If you really want to subscribe to Chase\'s statement that it\'s "all there," well then, doesn\'t that lend validity to the notion that Tony lives since we don\'t actually see him die? Personally, I think Chase threw all these Godfather allusions and the orange overtones and such to fuck with people who look too deeply into things, sort of a Glass Onion approach. Furthermore, I think it\'s a much less effective ending if Tony does die at the end because we see nothing of the aftermath. And call me crazy, but I think it\'s fairly important to show the aftermath when the show\'s protagonist dies.
I will give the guy credit for making a strong case and he did make me rethink the notion that Chase literally did leave it open-ended with enough indications for either the life or death ending. That was my thought when I first watched the episode and I hate that scenario the most. I maintain my original stance that Tony lives and feel that ending is the most effective of the possible three.
Title: THE SOPRANOS SEASON 6 Thread
Post by: davepeck on June 09, 2008, 03:49:41 pm
In honor of the one-year anniversary, a blogger has put up what should be the definitive word on this finale, or at least the final scene. His points are very hard to refute. It\'s well thought out and well supported with examples from previous episodes and excerpts from David Chase interviews.
The Definitive Explanation of "The End" (http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/)