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Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: jking on February 06, 2009, 08:36:11 am
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Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 08:51:06 am
good. fuck cats. Guardians of hell. Never even mentioned in the bible meaning that Noah didn\'t even want them on the arc.
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Post by: SlimPickens on February 06, 2009, 09:00:16 am
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-threatens-his-children-while-driving1.jpg)

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-threatens-to-kill-and-eat-you.jpg)
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Post by: phirehead on February 06, 2009, 09:18:18 am
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good. fuck cats. Guardians of hell. Never even mentioned in the bible meaning that Noah didn\'t even want them on the arc.


You always say that when you come over, but I know you secretly love Thumbs.

BTW, jking, that was fucking hilarious-thank you.
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Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 09:27:20 am
I see cats as furry footballs. I don\'t stop kicking until the ball is completely air free.
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Post by: freddiewaht on February 06, 2009, 11:05:33 am
Quote from: Spacey;219050
I see cats as furry footballs. I don\'t stop kicking until the ball is completely air free.


i will cut you from your grundle to your gullet,brah..
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Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 11:11:13 am
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I see cats as furry footballs. I don\'t stop kicking until the ball is completely air free.


i will cut you from your grundle to your gullet,brah..


still won\'t bring Scottie and Guinness back.

Bet I can punt it from the Porch to the Branford Green, brah!
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Post by: freddiewaht on February 06, 2009, 12:38:29 pm
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I see cats as furry footballs. I don\'t stop kicking until the ball is completely air free.


i will cut you from your grundle to your gullet,brah..


still won\'t bring Scottie and Guinness back.

Bet I can punt it from the Porch to the Branford Green, brah!


you son of a bitch!!!
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Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 01:01:18 pm
<---- Plans on getting drunk and attempting fur ball football tonight.
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Post by: freddiewaht on February 06, 2009, 02:07:28 pm
Quote from: Spacey;219086
<---- Plans on getting drunk and attempting fur ball football tonight.


cant be as bad as steevie gettin drunk and playing the wonderball with scott last week..
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Post by: Spacey on February 06, 2009, 04:17:50 pm
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<---- Plans on getting drunk and attempting fur ball football tonight.


cant be as bad as steevie gettin drunk and playing the wonderball with scott last week..


Might luck out with my phone losing all of the contacts. I plan to take my phone to a field and destroy it a la the fax machine in Office Space.
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Post by: skalnbyc on February 06, 2009, 05:18:58 pm
Obama isn\'t just a dick, he\'s a fraud.  I wouldn\'t doubt if his presidency becomes the biggest disappointment when all is said and done.  Shame on all the peeps who turned him into a T-shirt icon when he was just a junior senator that had accomplished very little (aside from being a black man who ascended through top schools etc. on his way to Presidency). Campaign of hope = campaign of hype.  He talked a great game to get elected and now the Porker in chief is playing the same big gov\'t game of waste and ineffectual leadership.  Wasteful spending that taxpayers are gonna have to cover that obviously is of little concern to all his friends who did not pay taxes (Read: Geithner, Daschle................).

I know mine is not going to be a popular opinion on the forum but I think people are blinded; being merely an alternative to Bush and a black man are not criteria enough for the level of fanaticism we have seen for the guy..  His term is young and I "hope" I am wrong and eat my words but I do not have much "hope" for the porker.

I feel better, thanks! ;)
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Post by: Rickey Roux on February 06, 2009, 07:14:09 pm
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Obama isn\'t just a dick, he\'s a fraud.  I wouldn\'t doubt if his presidency becomes the biggest disappointment when all is said and done.  Shame on all the peeps who turned him into a T-shirt icon when he was just a junior senator that had accomplished very little (aside from being a black man who ascended through top schools etc. on his way to Presidency). Campaign of hope = campaign of hype.  He talked a great game to get elected and now the Porker in chief is playing the same big gov\'t game of waste and ineffectual leadership.  Wasteful spending that taxpayers are gonna have to cover that obviously is of little concern to all his friends who did not pay taxes (Read: Geithner, Daschle................).

I know mine is not going to be a popular opinion on the forum but I think people are blinded; being merely an alternative to Bush and a black man are not criteria enough for the level of fanaticism we have seen for the guy..  His term is young and I "hope" I am wrong and eat my words but I do not have much "hope" for the porker.

I feel better, thanks! ;)

I rarely talk about a politics, but....

Al, I have to say that I agree with you for the most part. After the last 8 years, the sentiment among younger voters became "I\'d vote for anyone but a facist."  The facist party groomed McCain to be Bush II and this country wanted no part of it, and understandably so.  A great orator (bullshitter?), Obama was a senator from my state and I really can\'t name anything he has ever done for me in his time in office here.  His handlers did a wonderful job of selling him, but, lieu of the last 8 years, it wasn\'t all that hard to do.  Obama is a classic case of being in the right place at the right time.  I hate the two party system of government in this county. It is a complete and utter failure.  In so many elections we are forced to vote (or not vote at all) for the lesser of two evils.  In Australia when there is an election there are numerous candidates on the ballot (the election in 2008 had five) and you must rank them from top to bottom.  Many of them are from the same parties.  The one who ranks the highest gets the job.  Seems much fairer to me.  I won\'t even get into the whole electoral college thing.  When I hear financial analysts talking about the S & P possibly going down another 30%, it\'s time to buckle up and hold on tight. We are in for one bumpy ride, especially for fifty-somethings like myself who have seen our retirement holdings get pummeled over the last 6 months.  Oh, my poor Citigroup stock (from 54 to 3 in less than two years).  Let\'s all wish him well, for our own sake.
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Post by: Gfunk on February 06, 2009, 07:39:57 pm
Obama has a lot on his plate. there is a lot that has been royally fucked by the failed policies of the rethugs for the past 8 years. Our economy is in the shitter, something needs to be done, and that something is not more tax cuts.
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: jking on February 06, 2009, 08:14:55 pm
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Porker in chief is playing the same big gov\'t game of waste and ineffectual leadership

:lol: :lol:


how would you suggest getting the economy stimulated?? more tax breaks that haven\'t worked in the past 8 years?? yes, there is about 2% of the current bill that should be in a normal budget and not a stimulus bill. fair enough. otherwise, most leading economists seem to think this plan is fairly well constructed and offers the best long term solutions (see bloomberg).

a fraud??? ineffectual leadership? ok, its been 16 days, what exactly would you like to have seen him do thus far to show more effective leadership?

ricky, you seem more pissed at the general state of politics in this country than at anything he\'s actually done so far. which is certainly fair and understandable. but you\'re lumping in the blame for the two party system, the electoral college, the declining s&p and your stock losses as stuff that obama should have what? fixed already? it seems to me more like you\'re worried that the same level of bs is gonna happen with this president as with the last. no president has ever been as atrocious as bush was (in a myriad of ways), so even if obama is as bad as, say, nixon, he will still necessarily have to be better than dubya...

and i say this as no obama fanboy. i just believe in giving a guy more than two weeks before making a judgment on what kind of leader he is.
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Post by: ds673488 on February 06, 2009, 08:22:55 pm
isnt there a political pissing thread somewhere?
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: skalnbyc on February 06, 2009, 09:09:09 pm
Quote from: Gfunk;219121
Obama has a lot on his plate. there is a lot that has been royally fucked by the failed policies of the rethugs for the past 8 years. Our economy is in the shitter, something needs to be done, and that something is not more tax cuts.


Calling this a "stimulus" is a joke, it is an excuse to spend in a time of economic gloom.  Much of it is stocked with waste that is intended to pay back the special interests who put Obama and the Dems into the majority position; very little of it will provide a meaningful stimulus.  And as for the current situation, you have to blame both parties as well as the businesses that brought upon the dilemma with absolute recklessness.  The Dems were big time FNMA/FMAC cheerleaders (and beneficiaries) who aided the enormous expansion of lending to the poor and minorites who could never afford the homes they were buying.

Quote from: ds673488;219123
isnt there a political pissing thread somewhere?


Yeah, Jking started a lighthearted thread and I turned it into one, though I am certainly "living with no regret".

Might want to merge the discussion from my participation onwards into an existing discussion.


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the declining s&p .


S&P bottomed out in November and has held steady/hasn\'t tested new lows since.  

To tell you the truth, I would support a reasonable level of spending if I didn\'t think it was rife with wasteful pet projects that will not help.
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Post by: Rickey Roux on February 06, 2009, 09:56:12 pm
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Porker in chief is playing the same big gov\'t game of waste and ineffectual leadership


:lol: :lol:


how would you suggest getting the economy stimulated?? more tax breaks that haven\'t worked in the past 8 years?? yes, there is about 2% of the current bill that should be in a normal budget and not a stimulus bill. fair enough. otherwise, most leading economists seem to think this plan is fairly well constructed and offers the best long term solutions (see bloomberg).

a fraud??? ineffectual leadership? ok, its been 16 days, what exactly would you like to have seen him do thus far to show more effective leadership?

ricky, you seem more pissed at the general state of politics in this country than at anything he\'s actually done so far. which is certainly fair and understandable. but you\'re lumping in the blame for the two party system, the electoral college, the declining s&p and your stock losses as stuff that obama should have what? fixed already? it seems to me more like you\'re worried that the same level of bs is gonna happen with this president as with the last. no president has ever been as atrocious as bush was (in a myriad of ways), so even if obama is as bad as, say, nixon, he will still necessarily have to be better than dubya...

and i say this as no obama fanboy. i just believe in giving a guy more than two weeks before making a judgment on what kind of leader he is.


Jason, yes, I\'m voicing my displeasure with the system and I\'m scared and unsure of what will happen in the near future.  As a fifty something, this crisis affects me much more than you and most others here (sure hope social security is still around).  The financial data seems to get worse each week.  Congress was alerted to the possibility of this financial collapse almost two years ago and did nothing. I\'m certainly not placing blame on Obama for our current financial turmoil.  He has a daunting task ahead of him and I will definitely give him time (and lots of it, he\'ll need it) to right the ship from it\'s wayward course, especially after what his predecessor and Congress has allowed to happen.

I\'m sure at this point this should be in another thread as DS#\'s has suggested, but.....

A few more things.  Global economy, what a fucking joke.  Let\'s face it, some of this started when it became more important for corporations to show profits to their shareholders than do the right thing and keep their businesses here.  They took away millions of jobs, built plants and set up operations in third world countries and paid workers much less money with little or no benefits.  Skyrocketing profits for a decade.  That lack of jobs is taking a toll on our country in a big way.  Not to mention the deregulation of the entire financial industry.  Damn lobbyists!  This country has gone to hell in the last 8 years.  Jason, thanks for starting this thread and Al for helping to proliferate my anger and frustration.  Enough of my rant.  I\'m outta here and off to the bar.  :wave::chug::vomit:
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Post by: KEN RAFLOWITZ on February 07, 2009, 10:52:04 am
Obama Is A Fine Gentleman Of Honor & Dignity.
He Will Work For Us The Best Way He Possibly Can.
Will He Make Mistakes? You Bet!
Does He Admit His Errors? You Bet!
Is He Faced With Great Challenges To Lift Up America?
Does Anyone Really Know How To Do That?
He Will Learn Along THe Way & Adjust Accordingly.
Did Obama Create All The Mess We\'re In?
We Have A Two Party System.That Won\'t Change.
Obama Isn\'t Responsible For All The Corruption Around.
The Corrupt Should Be Held Responsible & Punished.
Atleast He\'s Able To Speak Intelligently! I\'m Happy With That Much!
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Post by: Gfunk on February 07, 2009, 11:17:16 am
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: KEN RAFLOWITZ on February 07, 2009, 12:50:43 pm
Good Timing Gfunk!
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Post by: Gfunk on February 07, 2009, 02:01:43 pm
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 07, 2009, 06:11:34 pm
I don\'t agree with a lot of what I see in that stimulous package either... looks like it\'s just a bunch of stuff they wanted to do for years but couldn\'t figure out how to get the government funding for. Now all you need to do is say any hair-brained scheme is going to pump money into the economy and declare anyone who doesn\'t agree with you is being unpatriotic and vola, free ride for dumb crap.

Also, I really hate seeing the government tightening it\'s hands around everything, putting caps on how much people can make just because they\'re the president of a company, etc. Everyone agrees because it\'s for a corrupt company right now, but the next step is to go after other job levels in other companies. Once the rules are on the book it\'s hard to get them off. Just try and buy beer on a sunday in ct if you don\'t believe me.

I wish him all the success and think it\'s too early to decide anything yet on what he\'s done but I\'m not impressed with much yet.
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Post by: skalnbyc on February 07, 2009, 06:25:40 pm
Definitely.

Addressing a debt crisis with much more debt only makes sense if every penny is going to worthy stimuli.  Congress allowing themselves to prudently allocate money to a "stimulus" is akin to a bunch of alcoholics responsible managing an open bar.
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Post by: Wolfman on February 07, 2009, 07:47:49 pm
JEB \'12!!!

(http://www.ocalamagazine.com/specPubsNews/articlefiles/960-Jeb-Bush.jpg)
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: FrankZappa on February 07, 2009, 08:16:09 pm
:wah: :lol:

I love how this all started with a snowball and a cat.

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-is-curious-about-cheeseburger-policy.jpg)
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Post by: jking on February 09, 2009, 08:38:01 am
just a clarification, the only executives whose salaries are being capped are the ones who performed their jobs so poorly that they need my (and your) money to bail them out of their failure. if you have no problem allowing someone with a proven record of failure to pay themselves millions of your dollars, that\'s fine, ante up some extra tax dollars for them. me, i don\'t generally like rewarding massive incompetency, especially not with my own money....
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Post by: SlimPickens on February 09, 2009, 09:18:57 am
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February 8, 2009
You Try to Live on 500K in This Town
By ALLEN SALKIN
PRIVATE school: $32,000 a year per student.

Mortgage: $96,000 a year.

Co-op maintenance fee: $96,000 a year.

Nanny: $45,000 a year.

We are already at $269,000, and we haven’t even gotten to taxes yet.

Five hundred thousand dollars — the amount President Obama wants to set as the top pay for banking executives whose firms accept government bailout money — seems like a lot, and it is a lot. To many people in many places, it is a princely sum to live on. But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast.

“As hard as it is to believe, bankers who are living on the Upper East Side making $2 or $3 million a year have set up a life for themselves in which they are also at zero at the end of the year with credit cards and mortgage bills that are inescapable,” said Holly Peterson, the author of an Upper East Side novel of manners, “The Manny,” and the daughter of Peter G. Peterson, a founder of the equity firm the Blackstone Group. “Five hundred thousand dollars means taking their kids out of private school and selling their home in a fire sale.”

Sure, the solution may seem simple: move to Brooklyn or Hoboken, put the children in public schools and buy a MetroCard. But more than a few of the New York-based financial executives who would have their pay limited are men (and they are almost invariably men) whose identities are entwined with living a certain way in a certain neighborhood west of Third Avenue: a life of private schools, summer houses and charity galas that only a seven-figure income can stretch to cover.

Few are playing sad cellos over the fate of such folk, especially since the collapse of the institutions they run has yielded untold financial pain. But in New York, where a new study from the Center for an Urban Future, a nonprofit research group in Manhattan, estimates it takes $123,322 to enjoy the same middle-class life as someone earning $50,000 in Houston, extricating oneself from steep bills can be difficult.

Therefore, even if it is not for sympathy but for sport, consider the numbers.

The cold hard math can be cruel.

Like those taxes. If a person is married with two children, the weekly deductions on a $500,000 salary are: federal taxes, $2,645; Social Security, $596; Medicare, $139; state taxes, $682; and city, $372, bringing the weekly take-home to $5,180, or about $269,000 a year, said Martin Cohen, a Manhattan accountant.

Now move to living expenses.

Barbara Corcoran, a real estate executive, said that most well-to-do families take at least two vacations a year, a winter trip to the sun and a spring trip to the ski slopes.

Total minimum cost: $16,000.

A modest three-bedroom apartment, she said, which was purchased for $1.5 million, not the top of the market at all, carries a monthly mortgage of about $8,000 and a co-op maintenance fee of $8,000 a month. Total cost: $192,000. A summer house in Southampton that cost $4 million, again not the top of the market, carries annual mortgage payments of $240,000.

Many top executives have cars and drivers. A chauffeur’s pay is between $75,000 and $125,000 a year, the higher end for former police officers who can double as bodyguards, said a limousine driver who spoke anonymously because he does not want to alienate his society customers.

“Some of them want their drivers to have guns,” the driver said. “You get a cop and you have a driver.” To garage that car is about $700 a month.

A personal trainer at $80 an hour three times a week comes to about $12,000 a year.

The work in the gym pays off when one must don a formal gown for a charity gala. “Going to those parties,” said David Patrick Columbia, who is the editor of the New York Social Diary (newyorksocialdiary.com), “a woman can spend $10,000 or $15,000 on a dress. If she goes to three or four of those a year, she’s not going to wear the same dress.”

Total cost for three gowns: about $35,000.

Not every bank executive has school-age children, but for those who do, offspring can be expensive. In addition to paying tuition, “You’re not going to get through private school without tutoring a kid,” said Sandy Bass, the editor of Private School Insider, a newsletter that covers private schools in the New York City area. One hour of tutoring once a week is $125. “That’s the low end,” she said. “The higher end is 150, 175.” SAT tutors are about $250 an hour. Total cost for 30 weeks of regular tutoring: $3,750.

Two children in private school: $64,000.

Nanny: $45,000.

Ms. Bass, whose husband is an accountant with many high-end clients, said she spends about $425 every 10 days on groceries for her family. Annual cost: about $15,000.

More? Restaurants. Dry cleaning. Each Brooks Brothers suit costs about $1,000. If you run a bank, you can’t look like a slob.

The total costs here, which do not include a lot of things, like kennels for the dog when the family is away, summer camp, spas and other grooming for the human members of the family, donations to charity, and frozen hot chocolates at Serendipity, are $790,750, which would require about a $1.6-million salary to compensate for taxes. Give or take a few score thousand of dollars.

Does this money buy a chief executive stockholders might prize, a well-to-do man with a certain sureness of stride, something that might be lost if the executive were crowding onto the PATH train every morning at Journal Square, his newspaper splayed against the back of a stranger’s head?

The man would certainly not feel like himself on that train, said Candace Bushnell, the author of “Sex and the City” and other books chronicling New York social mores.

“People inherently understand that if they are going to get ahead in whatever corporate culture they are involved in, they need to take on the appurtenances of what defines that culture,” she said. “So if you are in a culture where spending a lot of money is a sign of success, it’s like the same thing that goes back to high school peer pressure. It’s about fitting in.”

By the way, the frozen hot chocolate costs $8.50.



you guessed it:  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashion/08halfmill.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashion/08halfmill.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print)
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 09, 2009, 09:21:23 am
I\'m not saying they shouldn\'t be punnished for it, but I don\'t like the way they\'re being punnished.

In my opinon, they\'re just companies like any other. THey failed, they failed. Let them close. THere\'s no reason any private company should be baled out like this, and there\'s no reason the government should be nationalizing a private firm (with the exception of overtaking the jeep blueprints during world war 2 and moving it from the company that developed it to one that would be able to produce it in the volume needed).

Maybe it\'s just my anarchist side speaking, but let them fail imo. Keep your government out of my private life.

Also, CT Govenor is pushing again for cameras to be put in on highways that will be hooked up to radar guns which will photograph your liscense and mail you a ticket. Another step twoards big brother. YOu should all write your state reps in the house (http://www.cga.ct.gov/maps/Townlist.asp) and senate (http://www.cga.ct.gov/maps/Townlist.asp) and tell them you don\'t want this!!!

um, unless you do, in which case you still should write your state rep and let your voice be heard.

(http://www.curtispublishing.com/images/Rockwell/Freespeech%20%2022043.jpg)
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Post by: SlimPickens on February 09, 2009, 09:28:06 am
FZ are you talking about the financial firms that hold the retirement funds for millions of americans?

Yeah, we should probably let them fail.

(http://craphound.com/images/jobsrecessionsSM.jpg)
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Post by: jking on February 09, 2009, 09:38:11 am
traffic cameras are so constitutionally questionable, though... i know here they got discontinued because the va supreme court ruled against them. but they had to be set up first. my brother got a ticket from a camera once. he just told them he wasn\'t driving the car at the time, and since they couldn\'t see the driver nearly as well as they could see the license plate, they had to dismiss the charge. that sort of occurance helped go toward getting rid of them. you\'re supposed to be charging the driver, not the vehicle\'s owner... i think i\'m rambling, but the point is, hopefully the cameras will get challenged before they go up, as many states have been able to defeat them so far.

also, if you can\'t live on $500k and cause your company to fail, i don\'t feel bad for you. obviously you should not be entrusted with any large sums of money in the first fucking place. sell your shit, learn to live on a budget, and pretend you know enough about financial success to be, oh, i don\'t know, the ceo of a major fucking financial institution! how horrible, the thought of a frugal money manager!! i think the lesson to be learned here, is that if you suck so badly at your job that you throw the economy out of whack and have to be saved by socialism, you have to live by socialist rules and split your profits with us citizens who have had to save your ass. if you can operate your business without running it into the ground, go forth and profit!

yes, i think i am indeed rambling... ok, time to work.
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Post by: wildcoyote on February 09, 2009, 09:46:34 am
I\'m all for the pay limits.  This is ONLY for companies getting federal money. Don\'t want your pay capped?  Don\'t run your company into the ground!  

The whole idea behind capitalism is for the those working hardest to reap rewards.  The problem is the "haves" of the country are corrupting the system, so that they are rewarded even when they fail miserably.

The most basic purpose of government is to keep a general harmony in society.  Through out history when the "haves" have stuck it too hard too the "have nots" reveloution follows.  It happened with us and the British (it was more about taxes then ideals), it happened in France and Russia.  It\'s happened in South and Central America.  What happening now is essentially a civilized riot.  Instead of dusting off the gulliotine, we\'re cutting off salaries instead.  These executives are criminal, and they are getting off easy.
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Post by: FrankZappa on February 09, 2009, 09:55:08 am
I agree with that brian, my fear though is that once you have a law on the books, it\'s easy to start interpreting the law to fit other jobs, other companies, other levels within the company, and before you know it people that did everything right and are doing it on their own are getting their saleries capped, not just those getting federal funding. Once the government sees that they can use this as a secondary way to tax you, they are going to push on it over and over again and get as much as they can out of it.
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Post by: tyzack on February 09, 2009, 10:09:58 am
I heard an interesting piece on NPR yesterday that the current stimulous package is, in price tag and balance, forumlicly exact to what Kanes would suggest to do to get out of the recesion.

Kanes has been a lighting rod figure in economics for the last 80 years. His theories have never been tested. This will, according to the economists in the story be a text-book perscribed test.

I am, in general, not Kansian, but since I want the package to succeed, I guess I have become one by force.
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Post by: derickw on February 09, 2009, 01:32:03 pm
"kansian     
   
Kansian is used to identify people who believe they have origins from Kansas, USA. Often confused with Kansan.
Airz is a Kansan but she likes to be identified as Kansian."


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Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: peaches626 on February 09, 2009, 01:48:24 pm
whats this kanes thing.
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Post by: SlimPickens on February 09, 2009, 01:59:39 pm
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In economics Keynesianism (also Keynesian economics and Keynesian Theory), is based on the ideas of twentieth-century British economist John Maynard Keynes.

According to Keynesian economics the state (ie government) should stimulate economic growth and improve stability in the private sector — through, for example, adjusting interest rates and taxation and funding public projects.

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In his (John Maynard Keynes )magnum opus, The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money (1936), Keynes laid the foundation for the branch of economics termed "Macroeconomics" today.
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Post by: peaches626 on February 09, 2009, 02:56:19 pm
he looks like the joker.



why sooo...... serious?
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Post by: wildcoyote on February 09, 2009, 03:01:52 pm
I never knew he accomplished so much before Tool.
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: SlimPickens on February 09, 2009, 03:50:16 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;219266
I never knew he accomplished so much before Tool.


Maynard James Keenan is not an economic highlander
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Maynard_James_Keenan_Roskilde_2.jpg/335px-Maynard_James_Keenan_Roskilde_2.jpg)

but he does fuckin rule.
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: tyzack on February 10, 2009, 06:45:18 am
Quote from: derickw;219258
"kansian     
   
Kansian is used to identify people who believe they have origins from Kansas, USA. Often confused with Kansan.
Airz is a Kansan but she likes to be identified as Kansian."


????????


it has been well established that i cannot spell.
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Post by: Spacey on February 18, 2009, 10:27:04 am
FWIW, http://www.recovery.gov/
Title: Obama is kind of a dick...
Post by: FreeSpirit on February 18, 2009, 10:34:50 am
Quote from: recovery.gov
The President has made it clear that every taxpayer dollar spent on our economic recovery must be subject to unprecedented levels of transparency and accountability.  He has identified five crucial objectives for Federal agencies, to ensure that:

    * Recovery funds are awarded and distributed in a prompt, fair, and reasonable manner;
   * The recipients and uses of all recovery funds are transparent to the public, and that the public benefits of these funds are reported clearly, accurately, and in a timely manner;
   * Recovery funds are used for authorized purposes and every step is taken to prevent instances of fraud, waste, error, and abuse;
    * Projects funded under the recovery legislation avoid unnecessary delays and cost overruns; and,
    * Programs meet specific goals and targets, and contribute to improved performance on broad economic indicators.

To meet these objectives, the President is directing Federal agencies to take critical steps in preparation for the Act’s implementation.  


:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Post by: KEN RAFLOWITZ on August 11, 2011, 08:57:18 pm
If minorities rule,
the white man will be fool.
Keep him down till he wears that frown,
then we\'ll have that space for another white face.