The Breakfast.info
General Discussions => Spunk => Topic started by: oldnewbie on January 28, 2005, 09:25:28 am
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At quick glance, i found SIX supporting members out of over six hundred on this site (not including the number one supporting member, Dave) Among the top eight posters (i\'ve excluded Dave and Gray from the top ten) there are three. Of these SIX, two live on the west coast and to my knowledge, have never met Dave in person. One of those is constantly belittled as a trouble maker while he goes above and beyond the call to help spread the word about the breakfast. Two others are "oldtimers" who know how to do whats right. The last two are relative youngsters who also know how to do whats right, when one of them barely posts at all. The rest of you frequent posters are taking advantage of Daves generosity multiple times daily. While i realize that others do things to help the band in other ways....none of that helps Dave keep this site running. He has way too much class to put this in anybodys face....but I don\'t....I just call em like I see em. Before the flaming starts about how much money nobody has, I would suggest that ONE less pint at one of the many shows attended would be a huge help to him. Everyone here , IMO, needs to evaluate there own participation and act accordingly. Flame on!
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I guess I can respect this post, but it seems a little harsh. I for one am in no state of financial security. When I can scrounge up some dough, after hopefully paying the bills, I try to attend some shows to get my fix. Having to support my addiction costs enough as is.(gas, car repairs, tickets, etc.) When I reach the point where I can contribute I will. It\'s not like the thought hasn\'t crossed my mind..
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:rolleyes
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Originally posted by Buquebus
I guess I can respect this post, but it seems a little harsh. I for one am in no state of financial security. When I can scrounge up some dough, after hopefully paying the bills, I try to attend some shows to get my fix. Having to support my addiction costs enough as is.(gas, car repairs, tickets, etc.) When I reach the point where I can contribute I will. It\'s not like the thought hasn\'t crossed my mind..
No one i know and most likely no one on this board is in a state of financial security. Try again.
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DWAYNE,I DONT WANNA TOOT MY OWN WISTLE,SO TO SPEAK,BUT I CONTRIBUTED MONEY TO THIS SITE WHEN YOU WERE STILL SWIMMING IN YOUR DADDIES BIG NUTS.......LOL
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I agree with Freddie..just cause there is no dollar sign by a persons name doesn\'t mean they didn\'t contribute. I also contributed money years ago when dave was just getting the idea rolling.
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Originally posted by leith
No one i know and most likely no one on this board is in a state of financial security. Try again.
How about this... I\'m 20 years old, paying my way through college, and trying to pay to study in Ireland over the summer so I might graduate early... all on two just above minimum wage jobs. Making a donation to this website is on the horizon... somehow I felt that donating my extra cash (which wasn\'t much) to a tsunami relief fund was a bit more important.
I\'m done with this thread unless I see that Dave has something to say.
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My posts are my contribution...
That and my Peck appreciation...
When there are One Touch Home Entertainment home theaters and audio systems all over the state of Connecticut, I will be more than happy to make a solid financial contribution to this site....
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just an FYI
you can even donate 50 cents via paypal
if everyone donated 50 cents to a dollar... Dave would be all set and not have to worry about the bills
but, like i\'ve said before... if no one HAS to pay, very few will.
sucks having to pay out of pocket for something that is used by so many... I can totally relate
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Originally posted by leith
No one i know and most likely no one on this board is in a state of financial security. Try again.
how would you know that???
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Well i know all my friends are not financially secure and the most likely in the sentence covers the rest. Plus if anyone on this board is financially secure they need to stop just posting and buy the band they love some lighting gear, help the guys pay their crew, and buy commercial space for RR. how\'s that ?
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Originally posted by leith
Plus if anyone on this board is financially secure they need to stop just posting and buy the band they love some lighting gear, help the guys pay their crew, and buy commercial space for RR. how\'s that ?
If I could....I would in a heartbeat for a cut of the pie plus backstage +1 for the rest of my life.....
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Originally posted by gdradio
just an FYI
you can even donate 50 cents via paypal
if everyone donated 50 cents to a dollar... Dave would be all set and not have to worry about the bills
but, like i\'ve said before... if no one HAS to pay, very few will.
sucks having to pay out of pocket for something that is used by so many... I can totally relate
Jon u hit it on the head if it\'s free it\'s for me that is the motto of most people these days. :sigh:
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
How about this... I\'m 20 years old, paying my way through college, and trying to pay to study in Ireland over the summer so I might graduate early... all on two just above minimum wage jobs. Making a donation to this website is on the horizon... somehow I felt that donating my extra cash (which wasn\'t much) to a tsunami relief fund was a bit more important.
I\'m done with this thread unless I see that Dave has something to say.
that\'s a good one Drew. Accepted ;)
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Originally posted by Stephengencs
If I could....I would in a heartbeat for a cut of the pie plus backstage +1 for the rest of my life.....
Well add you get Band catering backstage and not crew catering and it\'s all good.
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oh and i\'m puffing a large bowl to celebrate. HA!
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4IN A ROW.BRAND NEW NEWBIE RECORD RIGH TTHERE....CONGRADULATIONS,HOW DO YO UPLAN ON CELEBRATING GUY?
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I agree with money factor, but I try to contribute to the site in a different way, The reason I do not have any extra money is because it goes to taping, I taped the middle east show, no one else did, not even the band. Dave offered to pay me for the dats, I said no I want to give them to you, which I did, also sent them to him already. I also go and buy blank cd\'s and give them out to my friends trying as hard as I can to turn there head towards the breakfast, also I buy things from the merch table to support them like (zone one) sure I could have gotten a free copy from someone to burn it for me. Listen the point is: some how and some way we all do our part trying to support the site. every show I tape I end up giving away at least 5 free cd\'s. I suppose I am going off in the wrong direction. So let\'s just say like someone said everyone contribute 50 cents?
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I think Duane was just pointing out that w/ the number of members on this board since Dave began putting supporting member tags, that # has not gone up. There has been talk abt putting various features on this board such as a chat room. This costs money. THIS IS NOT abt supporting the band, it is about supporting this site. There is a difference. Everyone contributes as they can for the band but the only real way to support THIS SITE is $$. Does this clear up anything. Everyone pls read all of a post b4 responding please it helps communication.
Oh Wah read the post prior(that means before) to your post bub.
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hi everyone. :)
duane, thanks for making the post. the list of supporting members can be seen in the \'forum leaders\' link on the forums home page, there are seven, plus three admins.
so what\'s my take on the matter? well, where should i start?
obviously i don\'t expect everyone to donate. if i did, i could easily make this a pay site. that will never happen. from day one, i\'ve paid for everything for this site out of my own pocket, with a little help from donations, and that\'s what will keep happening for the forseeable future.
financially stable? yeah, what is that anyways? nobody\'s broke - we all just spend our money on what we want to spend it on. and there\'s nothing wrong with that..
to the people who have donated, i appreciate it more than you know. there\'s a lot of work and heart put into this thing, and it\'s good to see when it\'s recognized.
but that said, it is still offered free. and as much as people may like it here, what reason do they have to pay for it if it\'s free.. i doubt the people who like to get their drink & drug on at shows would be tipping their bartenders & dealers if they were getting the shit free. then again, we know a bartender who hooks us up like you wouldn\'t believe, and because of that, at the end of the night, we tip the balls out of her.. so.. i guess it\'s just different strokes..
while i won\'t make public the exact costs of running the site, i will say that i do have over $1,000 (of my own money) into it over the past few years (domain names, hosting, software). luckily Mike Deary has lent a HUGE hand in taking the monthly cost of hosting off my back, and for that i am forever grateful. over the next few months, i\'ll also be purchasing a dedicated server for the site. all current donations are going towards this.
there\'s plenty of people who say they appreciate everything so much, and haven\'t contributed a dime - the thing is, you don\'t HAVE to donate.. there are OTHER ways you can help, and a BIG one is to click on a few of the Google ads everytime you visit the site.. virtually NO ONE does this!! (there have been 40 clicks since Jan 1st.) clicking on these links makes money for the site, and it adds up! people\'s words would mean a lot more if i started seeing these numbers go up..
and take mark for example - he bought me a few beers at a couple shows - money that i would have spent anyways - that was his contribution.. whatever works..
freddie & jeff - yes, i know you guys gave back in the day, and like the others, it\'s much appreciated, and i gave you guys recognition on the yahoogroup for it.. that said, it was almost 4 years ago.. the \'supporting member\' thing isn\'t going to be a permanent tag.. i still haven\'t ironed out exactly how i want to treat the donations.. i\'m thinking $10/year (so a $20 donation will give one the \'SM\' tag for 2 years), or maybe $30-$35 for \'lifetime\'.. still trying to think of something fair for that.. once the forum is upgraded, there will be added perks to being a supporting member, like no Google ads...
but anyways.. that\'s where i stand.. if you\'d like to donate, please do. if not, that\'s fine too, just don\'t be surprised if i look at you funny. ;)
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I would say that sums it up pretty good , great point on the google ads, leith, when I put up those examples I did read the post, what I think you did not get from me is, I feel In a round about way with me supporting the band is supporting the site because people hear and see thebreakfast.info, which will lead to more people donating and clicking on google ads, because spreading the word all the way around is the common goal for everyone, I hope you understand what I ment, i realize it looked like all I was talking about is supporting the band, but this is what I meant, I suppose I should have spelled it out better , sorry
does this seem to make any sense???? I completly see the point you are making. I also take that to heart. peace to all:)
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Let the google clicking commence. Ready Go!
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if you are feeling google-clicking-charitable,
feel free to go to http://www.gdradio.net and click a few! :)
(help?)
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Going there next John
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I get it , I get it, $$ for the site that is the bottom line correct?
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I wasn\'t aware that you made $$ from those ads.....i\'ll definetly click a couple when I come on
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not much, but it ads up. somewhat.
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we\'ve had a few recent contributions, and i just wanted to say thanks to those who have been helping out..
keep clicking those google ads! :)