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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: boombox on November 21, 2003, 09:38:53 pm

Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 21, 2003, 09:38:53 pm
Had to laugh, looking at the "PB in Michigan" and "when have pb made it" threads! PB have always, it appears had a strong local following, playing regular gigs eg The Living Room. I do like the comment about Trey wanting to sit in=success. Surely "made it" means some international recognition, though with the majority of lame no-brainers in the UK buying the crap that\'s in the Top Forty, if we were a barometer of the world, no-one with any talent would make it.

What I want to know is, when, if ever, are pb going to come to the UK? SCI and some of the "old guard" ie Jefferson Airplane, Ratdog are the only bands to do so in recent years - phish haven\'t been for aeons either and wsp cancelled twice in the last year or so. The biscuits have played Japan, but not Europe, but as for moe. and pb, I\'ve never even heard the faintest hint of a show.

If any of you have any rumours, let me know.

Can I also take this opportunity to give a big heads up to any British or UK-based pb fans out there, or am I the only one??!!!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: DocEllis70 on November 22, 2003, 11:26:23 am
hey man..welcome to the forum. How\'d you end up hearing about PB?...I dont think Europe is on the gig list of upcomming shows but get some cds and hook your friends up out there..radio stations too..you own any of their stuff?? im sure someone here could hook ya up..i personally dont have many good shows
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: jefft on November 22, 2003, 11:34:31 am
If the rumors have any validity to them it looks like Phish is going to be coming your way very soon, with most of a Europe tour concentrated in England.  I\'ve got Family in Coventry, so if either PB or Phish head that way, I\'m there and we can chill out boombox.
Title: How to get into pb
Post by: boombox on November 24, 2003, 12:48:12 pm
Doc, to answer your question, I got into pb the usual way - grateful dead > phish > sci > disco biscuits > read reviews of pb comparing the guitar work to tdb, so downloaded a few mp3s from livediscs.com. Went broadband in April and since then have been able to download full shn shows. Simple as that really.

As for a proper UK Phish tour - in the words of CSN "It\'s been a long time coming"!!! Where did you hear of this jeff?
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Wolfman on November 24, 2003, 01:37:06 pm
Damn, we\'re pretty lucky to be able to see these bands all the time.  Do they have jambands out there?  I\'ve been digging Travis lately, they\'re not a jamband but they\'re good and European.  And the most psychedelic band ever, Radiohead, is English.  I\'d be pleasantly surprised if PB went international any time before 2007.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on November 24, 2003, 03:23:29 pm
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Originally posted by Wolfman
And the most psychedelic band ever, Radiohead, is English.


I\'m sorry, I think you meant to say one of the following:

A: "And the most psychedelic band ever, Pink Floyd, is English."

B: "And one of the most psychedelic bands ever, Radiohead, is English."

C: "I hearby give Drew M. Kingsley all of my wordly possessions."

But that\'s just my opinion.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: leith on November 24, 2003, 04:24:35 pm
Hey Hawkwind is English yeah ? Pretty freakin\' psychedelic !!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Wolfman on November 24, 2003, 04:43:08 pm
What\'s up with all these English people being so Psychedelic.  Heck, they even have their own Psychedelic Breakfast!  Must be some good drugs over there.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 25, 2003, 04:34:48 pm
Got to disagree with wolfman\'s comments re Radiohead - they\'ve not done anything decent since the first album.

FWIW (Preparing for major flaming!)

OK Computer = the most over-rated album of all time
The Bends = possibly the second most over-rated album ever (2 good tracks only)
Pink Floyd = one of the top ??? English psychedelic bands - the others being, in no particular order, Hawkwind, Kaleidoscope, Man, The Pretty Things, Soft Machine, Gong, Ozric Tentacles, The Move, etc, etc, etc (Hope I\'ve not missed out any other good ones)

BTW Travis would probably prefer to be referred to as SCOTTISH rather than European. We Celts are funny like that - we like to keep our heritage. For God\'s sake, don\'t ever refer to them as English - major social faux pas which would probably result in the losing of teeth to a Glasgow kiss!!(ie a head butt)
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 25, 2003, 04:50:02 pm
Sorry, rereading the above, it looks a bit abrupt, which it wasn\'t meant to be. I just can\'t believe how the US has taken so much to Radiohead when you\'ve got so much far more superior music available!!!

Still each to his own - he says, going back to his Spice Girls CD - only kidding!!!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: leith on November 25, 2003, 09:31:34 pm
Radiohead does get jocked alot in the U.S. Find it quite funny  that a band so caught up in itself finds such a fanbase. I think it is due to the small amount of people who actually LISTEN to the music Radiohead makes vs the large amount of people that gobble down hype.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: realisthis on November 25, 2003, 11:07:12 pm
Radiohead IS overly hyped in the U.S. by this new trend in kids that think they have found this new and exciting thing that is brand new and has never been done before. It in fact has came from England over 30 years ago....
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 27, 2003, 03:04:38 pm
Hey, leith and realisthis, I think I must have found the only Americans brave enough to stand and be counted. Good to see that there are still thosde of us that believe as the great frank zappa suggested, ie that humour belongs in music!!! Radiohead have disappeared so far up their own backsides that %$£$£"*(*^GH%&^& - deleted to avoid censorship!!!!!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: leith on November 28, 2003, 02:24:53 am
Any rock band that starts to take it self too serious suffer creatively in my opinion. Rock and Roll was meant to lighten things up, to rile up the partY.  Humor in music, check out the new Tenacious D DVD. Improv humor + fun rock and roll.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: FrankZappa on November 28, 2003, 09:29:10 am
alright, i completely agree that humor belongs in music, but you can\'t dismiss a bands talent just because they are suddenly popular or not making jokes in there lyrics. I think radiohead is awesome, and I also think pink floyd was awesome. BTW, once syd left, where are all the pink floyd \'joke\' songs? Zeppelin and rage never had humourous songs, does that mean they suck? I like music for the sake of listeing to talented musicans, and if its funny, all the better, but its not a requirement for making a band good. Having listened to Thom rip out a tech during the soundcheck in NJ, I\'d have to agree that he sounds like an arse, but I\'m not asking to hang out with the guy, I just want to listen to his music.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: freddiewaht on November 28, 2003, 09:56:32 am
hey paul,have you ever heard the lemon song?id say thats pretty funny..
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: FrankZappa on November 28, 2003, 10:52:06 am
freddie, you and I have 2 COMPLETELY different ideas of humor.

You must die laughting every time you hear the wanton song and whole lotta love.

"she squeezed me so hard, I swear I fell right outa\' bed!"
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Overexjoesure on November 28, 2003, 03:27:41 pm
Ahhh this is my type of thread!!!!  Hey welcome to PBFANS.com!!!!  Yes radiohead is weak and wolfman if you want psychedelic please PM me and I\'ll hook you up big time!!!

BoomBox, seriously I wish I could just hang around in Canterbury!!   How is the music scene there?  

I\'ll say it again, if you want to hear why Radiohead are rip off artists go buy some Can cds!!!!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: leith on November 28, 2003, 03:51:56 pm
Finally someone who knows of Can !! Joe u rock. Can is THE MOST underated of the "krautrock" bands. These guys were experimental to the fullest. They went on stage and just started playing. No setlist of what to play just start and see what happens. If u want intricate writing and pure mayhem mixed perfectly it\'s all in the CAN.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Wolfman on November 28, 2003, 04:05:47 pm
This is great, I love when people get all fired up over my ridiculous comments.  I love to stir the pot.  Keep it comin!

Did I mention that the Beatles are nothing more than an overrated 60\'s version of N*Sync?
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: Overexjoesure on November 28, 2003, 04:28:52 pm
Yes Leith I\'m a huuuuge Krautrock fan... Can, Faust, Nektar, Passport etc etc.... As far as I\'m concerned the Cantenbury scene and the Krautrock scene were the two most innovated rock scenes of all time....  If only I could go back in time.....
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: leith on November 28, 2003, 04:41:11 pm
Wolf u tread towards blasphemy :(

Joe since we can not travel physically in time, the recorded work of these artists is important. Even those bisco tapes should be preserved just so others can compare good to bad. Think, if America was truly as open-minded as we like to believe we are, all of those "scenes" in Europe may have had more of an effect on our music and the jamscene would be Mainsteam. Food 4 Thought Cheeew oooon that :)
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 28, 2003, 05:12:55 pm
Well, I seem to have opened a real can of worms here. I agree, bands do not always have to be fun and comic, but I\'ve seen a few bands and met a few well known musicians who do seem to have forgotten why they got into music in the first place.

Just my tuppence ha\'peny worth.

As for Can and Gong/Canterbury scene, you guys need to check out Sharing the Groove - been some great Can and Gong shows recently offered.
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: boombox on November 28, 2003, 05:14:33 pm
Joe, what do you mean? You\'ll hook wolfamn up with some psychedlia big time? What you got??? Interested in a trade with someone "across the pond"?
Title: supply and demand
Post by: psychjosh on December 01, 2003, 03:31:48 pm
We would LOVE to come abroad and get freaky with you guys!

Right now it\'s a matter of supply and demand!

If you can help rally fans abroad and help us get into the ears of all those Psychedelic Brits perhaps a buyer would be into sending the band across the Atlantic.

Unfortunately we can\'t afford to send ourselves on "European Vactation" so we need to increase the awareness in that market before we can get over there!

peace!
Title: Jambands abroad??? What about us Brits?!!!!
Post by: JSleeper240 on December 04, 2003, 09:53:30 am
psy·che·del·ic [ skə déllik ]
 
adjective  
 
1. relating to hallucinogenic drugs: used to describe, or relating to or caused by, drugs that generate hallucinations, abnormal psychic states, or states that resemble psychiatric disorders

 
2. overloading the senses: weird, distorted, wildly colorful, or otherwise resembling images or sounds experienced by somebody under the influence of a psychedelic drug

 
 
noun  (plural psychedelics)