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General Discussions => No Glove No Love => Topic started by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 07:42:40 pm

Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 07:42:40 pm
No one agrees with me on this but I\'m going to say it again anyhow.

I kind of think that the Red Sox should retire # 25. Granted, that is Mike Lowell\'s number so it pains me to make such an assertion.

Well.... maybe they shouldn\'t officially retire the number, but just stop issuing it to players. Tony Conigliaro certainly didn\'t reach the requirements for having his number retired (10 seasons with the Red Sox, induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame,) but he was an extremely promising player who was the youngest in the AL to reach 100 career home runs. At 22 he was beaned in the face by a pitch and his career was effectively ended.

What do you think?
Title: # 25
Post by: freddiewaht on June 11, 2007, 07:54:13 pm
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Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:02:54 pm
I cant believe that his number isnt retired......
the fact that he was the top prospect in the game at the time and taken out by a wild pitch bodes him deserving enough.  However I assume it\'s up to Lowell to give it up.  I dont know if its been proposed to him and he turned it down or just that nobody has mentioned it to him, but that is an interesting question......
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 08:06:26 pm
Interestingly enough, Mike Lowell was actually the recipient of the Tony Conigliaro award in 99 for returning to the game after testicular cancer.
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:12:19 pm
Hmmmm....
Is this a current issue on sports talk radio in beantown?
If this is a newer petition, I wouldnt be suprised to see his number retired by the end of the season...and hes having a pretty good season disregarding the fielding errors....my fantasy 3rd baseman
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 08:15:04 pm
Nah this is a sentiment that has been bouncing around for a long time. Though I haven\'t heard any discussion of it for a while.

It has just been on my mind recently for some reason or another.
Title: # 25
Post by: Igziabeher on June 11, 2007, 08:17:21 pm
you\'re really on a roll w/ the sweet blogs today.
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:18:58 pm
Whats the "official reason" as to why its not retired yet?
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 08:21:21 pm
The official reason is that he hasn\'t met the official requirements for having his number officially retired....

Gregg.... yeah..... bored. Rain. Bleh. Lost my book. Hate the tv.

So sweet blogging was next on the list of things to do. Soon I am going to clean my house though. Eventually.
Title: # 25
Post by: FrankZappa on June 11, 2007, 08:29:23 pm
There are many, many books on your shelf I would love to dive into. If you lost the current one, go pick another off the shelf. Can\'t go wrong with Dumas.


either that or we can go see a play. :D
Title: # 25
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 11, 2007, 08:36:51 pm
Not only should numbers not be retired for any reason, but all the previously retired numbers should be brought back as fair game.

Its just a number. All it does is make it easy to tell who the player is from a distance.

go Wake
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 08:39:30 pm
What are the official requirements?  I didnt realize there were statistical requirements for having a jersey retired, in any sport.....obviously any player with a retired number has done something worthy of having his jersey retired, but i would think that, especially if he still holds the record for yongest player to hit 100 HR\'s, that baseball, or the sox would make an exception......
Title: # 25
Post by: FrankZappa on June 11, 2007, 08:41:15 pm
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"I don\'t get it; why is your number 7/8ths?"
"Oh, they went to fractions after all the whole numbers had been retired."
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 09:05:57 pm
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What are the official requirements?  I didnt realize there were statistical requirements for having a jersey retired, in any sport.....obviously any player with a retired number has done something worthy of having his jersey retired, but i would think that, especially if he still holds the record for yongest player to hit 100 HR\'s, that baseball, or the sox would make an exception......

Requirements:

* 10 seasons with the Red Sox
* Induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame

Quote from: FrankZappa;148572
There are many, many books on your shelf I would love to dive into. If you lost the current one, go pick another off the shelf. Can\'t go wrong with Dumas.


either that or we can go see a play. :D

Well... it\'s not LOST, it\'s at James\' apartment.

I am also reading a book of Russian fairy tales but it is getting tiresome (there are only about 4 stories which get slightly altered dozens of times over.) I also am reading The Bhagavad Gita but I don\'t feel like it right now. And I don\'t feel like starting a fourth book.

Come pick me up. You could be here by midnight.
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 09:15:11 pm
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Quote from: Stephengencs;148580
What are the official requirements?  I didnt realize there were statistical requirements for having a jersey retired, in any sport.....obviously any player with a retired number has done something worthy of having his jersey retired, but i would think that, especially if he still holds the record for yongest player to hit 100 HR\'s, that baseball, or the sox would make an exception......


Requirements:

* 10 seasons with the Red Sox
* Induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame


Hmmmmm....well I guess I can understand and if Tony Conigliaro has an award named after him that is an honor in itself.....
Title: # 25
Post by: FrankZappa on June 11, 2007, 09:16:08 pm
heh, I\'m off tuesday and wednesday. Don\'t tempt me.
Title: # 25
Post by: kindm's on June 11, 2007, 09:26:35 pm
I would say \'No\' on number retirement.

There are many cases of tragic events in sports ending careers. A number being retired is a rare event and highlights an extraordinary career and player.Part or which  is longevity in the game.

All though my heart goes out to this person for being injured getting hurt does not = outstanding career, just unlucky

Bo Jackson
Jeff Beukeboom

just a few off the top of my head
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 09:29:02 pm
I am off tomorrow afternoon and Wednesday unless I get called in to work at the Giant Book Store.

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I would say \'No\' on number retirement.

There are many cases of tragic events in sports ending careers. A number being retired is a rare event and highlights an extraordinary career and player.Part or which  is longevity in the game.

All though my heart goes out to this person for being injured getting hurt does not = outstanding career, just unlucky

Bo Jackson
Jeff Beukeboom

just a few off the top of my head


Yeah, I see your point. It was just a thought.

But in that case, why hasn\'t Wade Boggs had HIS number retired? I am pretty sure he meets Boston\'s requirements...
Title: # 25
Post by: FrankZappa on June 11, 2007, 09:29:16 pm
:chin: :hehehe:
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 09:33:33 pm
How big are these "giant" books?
Title: # 25
Post by: kindm's on June 11, 2007, 09:34:07 pm
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I am off tomorrow afternoon and Wednesday unless I get called in to work at the Giant Book Store.

Quote from: kindm\'s;148601
I would say \'No\' on number retirement.

There are many cases of tragic events in sports ending careers. A number being retired is a rare event and highlights an extraordinary career and player.Part or which  is longevity in the game.

All though my heart goes out to this person for being injured getting hurt does not = outstanding career, just unlucky

Bo Jackson
Jeff Beukeboom

just a few off the top of my head


Yeah, I see your point. It was just a thought.

But in that case, why hasn\'t Wade Boggs had HIS number retired? I am pretty sure he meets Boston\'s requirements...


I was simply offering an opinion. Wade Boggs :) It would be a cold day in hell

Lots of players meet the requirements. It is the extra icing for the guys that are legends on their teams.. think about how long the Red Sox have been around and the small number of retired numbers (relatively speaking).
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 09:39:13 pm
I think Boggs\' chance of getting his number retired by the sox rode off on the back of a horse after a world series win as a Yankee
Title: # 25
Post by: kindm's on June 11, 2007, 09:41:32 pm
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I think Boggs\' chance of getting his number retired by the sox rode off on the back of a horse after a world series win as a Yankee


I think you mean his chances went right through his legs.

:rimshot

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Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 09:47:37 pm
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How big are these "giant" books?


Meh... Not that big at all.

The place just always has a sign out on the road that says "Giant Book Sale."

When I interviewed I asked where all of the giant books were and the woman didn\'t find that amusing at all. Then I asked if there was a section of books all about giants, and she seemed quite irritated. I still got the job, however....
Title: # 25
Post by: kindm's on June 11, 2007, 09:54:49 pm
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Quote from: Stephengencs;148610
How big are these "giant" books?


Meh... Not that big at all.

The place just always has a sign out on the road that says "Giant Book Sale."

When I interviewed I asked where all of the giant books were and the woman didn\'t find that amusing at all. Then I asked if there was a section of books all about giants, and she seemed quite irritated. I still got the job, however....


Thats awesome!!
Title: # 25
Post by: Stephengencs on June 11, 2007, 09:55:54 pm
Quote from: jocelyn;148618

When I interviewed I asked where all of the giant books were and the woman didn\'t find that amusing at all. Then I asked if there was a section of books all about giants, and she seemed quite irritated. I still got the job, however....


HA! she cant be all that bad then......or maybe she digs you?
Title: # 25
Post by: jocelyn on June 11, 2007, 10:45:47 pm
She\'s a serious bitch but she needed some part time help and I fit the bill, so...
Title: # 25
Post by: Igziabeher on June 11, 2007, 10:49:56 pm
if any Sox # should be retired, its either 42 or 5.
Title: # 25
Post by: peaches626 on June 12, 2007, 02:17:30 am
nomah, fa sho