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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: tiedyetoga on November 07, 2003, 12:57:14 pm
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Imagine if Warren Haynes sat in for a few tunes. I think that it would be one of the greatest musical moments to witness. Timmy and Warren just dualing it out... You never know, Warren has a copy of Bona Fide.
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Allman Brothers Suck!
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I think I would walk right out of the show....
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Dunno bout the greatest moment ever.. but Warren rips it and it would be some fine ass shit!
ABB does not suck.. cmon.. you can dislike Southern Rock but
Credit where credit is due.. they were bad ass!
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New fan poll??
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Yeah, but why the whore of the jamband community though? He virtually plays with everyone...there are soo many other great guitarists out there guys...Ya dont have to agree, but it\'s just my 2 cents...
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Josh,
I don\'t dislike all Southern Rock, but I do hate how ABB abuses the slide guitar. I\'ve said it before and I\'ll say it again, they suck. I went to two shows with my father and I\'ve walked out of each show before the encore. Bye the way, both times the set was exactly the same. Maybe it would have been different if I saw them 25 years ago when the original members were alive, but at this time, I think I\'m ready for them to hang it up.
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I would like to say I dug Tim playing with Creek at Wormtown......I am a huge fan of Creek and Scotty, but I have to be honest and say that Tim kicked Scotty\'s ass, yea and verily. Would love to see Peev play with PB, I know he has but I wasn\'t there. Oh, and Jimmy Herring. Yeah right. How about Derek Trucks.
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They do play alot of the same songs each show, but they rip it up. Why is Warren looked down upon for playing with many? He is highly respected, and so I hope it all goes well for him.
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I guess it\'s the fact that I\'m a huge Warren fan...
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Warren Haynes
Jeff Pevar
Karl Denson
Dirty Dozen Brass Band
BB King
Al Green <> He\'s back making music again. He could add some soul...
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Since we are on the topic of Warren, I would just like to say that while I am not a huge Warren fan, I really like what he adds to ABB and also Phil and Friends. Many, and I mean many, critisize his work in both those bands, espeically Phil\'s. But I think him and Herring both add to make a really neat sound.
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I don\'t think it is that far of a strech. He is family and I know if it doesn\'t happen by NOLA Jazz Fest then it will probably happen there.
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Would it be too idealistic to say The Dead?
Also, I say Dave Matthews just to give all of those teenage fans (I realize that I\'m only 18, but you know the people I\'m talking about) a culture shock. As if Trey isn\'t going to embarass him enough...
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Originally posted by Drew_Kingsley
Would it be too idealistic to say The Dead?
Also, I say Dave Matthews just to give all of those teenage fans (I realize that I\'m only 18, but you know the people I\'m talking about) a culture shock. As if Trey isn\'t going to embarass him enough...
Trey won\'t embarass Dave. Dave has soul and singing prowess that Trey can only dream of. Trey will obviously whoop Dave\'s ass technically, and is a more complete composer. I prefer Trey, but its hard to say who\'s truly a better musician.
A far as the topic goes, I would live to see w/ PB:
George Clinton
Napoleon Murphy-Brock
Dizzy Dust (from Ugly Duckling)
Flea
Britney Spears
Onyx
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Pete Townshend
Nils Lofgren
Eddie Van Halen
Doyle - The Misfits
Brian May
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For my money I say
Surviving members of Zeppelin
Trey for sure!
Biscuits
Jimmy Herring
Derek Trucks
Charlie Hunter
Steve Molitz
I bet I can come w/ a dozen more!
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I here ya Chris.. My last few ABB experiences were not all that great. I started seeing them about 15 years ago and they have blown my mind on a number of occasions!
It\'s all good!
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biscuits would definitely be hot.
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JB
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and Dave Schools... him & Ronnie could blow the speakers out of the PA.....
DDBB would be sick... maybe on like a What The Funk or Superfly...
Biscuits would also be crazy... just saw them here in Birmingham last Wed for the first time since post Phish NYE in 1998... was ok, when they were rockin\', but most of the time they get way to techno sounding for me...
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Warren sitting in w/ PB would be pretty cool. He is one of the better players in our community and a Soulshine> Vermont Song would be real nice. IMO ABB w/ Warren and Derek is the 3rd best incarnation of ABB,though slide from 2 guitars is only neat on a song or 2. ABB is no longer a band to follow but seeing them 1 or 2x a year,no prob.
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Originally posted by Wolfman
A far as the topic goes, I would live to see w/ PB:
Flea
Britney Spears
oh god... i could just imagine watching peck and ron during that jam...
my vote, new york philharmonic or london symphony orchestra, whoever is more willing...
"The modern day composer refuses to die!"
- Edgar Varese
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I love southern rock, but Warren just doesn\'t do a thing for me. He\'s ok sitting in with people, but if any band in the history of bands ever sucked, it was Govt. Mule.
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Amen brotha...
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dave mathews sucks!
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Jimmy Smith (that would be mugasmic)
David Byrne
John Mclaughlin
Jimmy Smith!
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Ya know everyone has their opinion but I have to look to all the ser musicians that have practically run to play w/ the Mule. Matt Abts is one of the purest rock drummers around and Warren\'s writing and assimilation of Americana Blues is astounding. While Allen Woody was alive he was a rock and the bass players who have kept his spirit alive are top notch. While I am not a big fan of the trio turning into a quartet, Danny Louis plays some mean keys. If you like power trios playing a blues style the Mule is where it\'s at. BTW Warren would not play w/ everyone if he was not invited. Think about it.
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Leith, that doesnt mean anything to me though....Suppose Trey asks him to guest again....Do u think I really feel Warren must be good because TREY wants him...Hell, Trey doesnt know music anymore if it was in sniffing distance...
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1. Adrian Belew
2. Bryan Ferry
3. Al Kooper
4. George Benson
5. Brian Wilson
6. Ike Willis
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I gotta disagree there, Trey has forgotten more about music then you and I will most likely ever know. Yeah I think that most musicians worth anything want to play w/ players of their caliber or better, so if Trey asks someone to sit in I am interested because Trey is and I know that he feels something good will come of the collaboration. Next time someone sits in w/ PB ask Tim why they were invited.
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You have a good point, but it doesnt change my mind in which players I like though!
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And it shouldn\'t. To each his own my brotha\'
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Originally posted by leith
if Trey asks someone to sit in I am interested because Trey is and I know that he feels something good will come of the collaboration.
...and then there\'s the B.B. King appearance... :no:
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No Good Dave ? I have not heard it. If it was anything like B.B.\'s album w/ EC than it was probably crap. There is no accounting for the effects of age.
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oh leith.. let me tell you...
i was 3 rows up on the side of the stage where BB entered.. when i saw him walking up to the stage, my mouth fell to the floor.. i almost had tears in my eyes, thinking i was going to witness something amazing.. boy was i wrong...
(http://www.batesville.k12.in.us/bhs/heritage%20online/Train%20pix/train%20wreck.jpg)
trey spent the next half hour trying to get BB to jam and trade licks with him.. BB just sat there and shook his head like an idiot.. like he wanted nothing to do with it.. he took a couple solos, but never actually played "with" the band, if you know what i mean.. it was probably some of the most boring stuff i\'ve ever heard, and it\'s really too bad...
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BB was waaaaay out of his element and as he has gotten older he likes to play w/ others less and less. One would think that a legend like BB would be up to the task,sad to hear he wasn\'t. As far as boring, I believe it. I haven\'t heard anything new from BB in 15 years.
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Been done already!
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Pete has the right on....
I would like to see
Ike Willis
Napolean Murphy Brock
Robert Fripp
Michael Hampton
Stanley Clarke
Brian Eno
Bootsy Collins
Bill Bruford
Josh the only reason why you want to see the Biscuits play with PB is because you want Tim to rip Barber a new ass hole. Therefore everyone sees that Barber is a shitty musician and Bisco kids will spend their money to see PBPBPBPB!!!!
Wolfman>>>> Clinton wouldn\'t make it on stage... He\'d just get up there and fart around screaming in his hoarse, cracked out voice "FLAASSHHHLLIGHHHTT"...
Well Josh Tim played with Ike BUT Ike hasnt played with PB.... That was one fucking awesome night though!!!
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Who\'s Barber? I thought the guitarist from bisco was named something else...??
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Yep Barber is the guitarist for Bisco... It\'s just a nickname; his real name is Jon Gutwillig..
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on that note,insert anonymous fart noises.
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Yeah, Robert Fripp, that MIGHT happen. What an a$$hole.
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Who, me or Fripp??
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Not likely, but it\'s nice to dream, no?
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What about another Melting of the Minds Tour? Seth and Tim just tearing shit up! IMO two of the best young guitarists out there!
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I think it would be pretty interesting to see Tim play with Keller Williams...
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I thinkit would be cool to have Jen Durkin front the Band in an all night tribute to Funk.
But bill the band under some mysterious name (ie. Grateful Dead = Warlocks).
Like Bacon and Eggs or something like that. :)
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The Breakfast Squad
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That would be some ser funk 4 sure.
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hell yeah
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mike - are you going to BS in danbury friday night??
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Well I am trying to go to PB at mexicalli. I got all excited about the BYOB but was just told Beer and Wine only. I wanted to get a bottle of Patron or Kettle One.
As far as Bomb Squad is concerned I would love to go. It is soo close to me but we shall see if I have the money. Killer lineup that night as well
A440
Scarecrow Collection
Bomb Squad
should be a pretty good show
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Allright I would have to say Lets get Derek trucks up there, Karl denson would bring alot, and how about bringing back Bluntman and Chronic, from 4/20 a few years ago.
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Add Jimmy Herring to the list.
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The Seth Yac/ PB alternating sets tour was freaking sick. I love the idea of alternating sets. Realistically I would like to see PB do alternating sets with :
TEA LEAF GREEN - lead guitarist Josh Clark is almost on a level with Tim, and TLG, who is from San Fran, could really help PB get new fans out west while PB would help TLG get new fans in the Northeast. Both bands are of the same hard-rocking jammed out, guitar heavy genre.
EKOOSIK HOOKAH - lead guitarist Steve Sweeny is a freaking alien. Should be called Electric Hookah - Sweeny can just go nuts on guitar.
DEREK TRUCKS - clearly DT is the defacto leader of ABB. You go to ABB see DT - not Gregg and Warren. Anyone who\'s seen the Allmans recently knows that Derek just takes over the whole show.
ULU - a killer, high-energy jazz funk outfit from NYC, would compliment PB well in an alternating set format.
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DT is the man plan and simple. I prefer to see him with his own band.. He just tears it up.. I just saw him a few weeks ago for the 4th time and was blown away..
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Originally posted by Yoda
Allman Brothers Suck!
yeah but Gov\'t Mule doesn\'t, and neither does phil and phriends, so never put warren down! EVER!
(sorry, a bit sentimental).
Warren + Psych is good
Karl Denson + Psych is good
any NMAS + psych is good
Robert Randolph + psych is good
Medeski + psych is good
(these are all great bands to open for, or better, to have open for you.)
~Dan
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Originally posted by davepeck
trey spent the next half hour trying to get BB to jam and trade licks with him.. BB just sat there and shook his head like an idiot.. like he wanted nothing to do with it.. he took a couple solos, but never actually played "with" the band, if you know what i mean.. it was probably some of the most boring stuff i\'ve ever heard, and it\'s really too bad...
A lot of people felt that this jam was weak. IMO, on tape it sounds allright, but I can understand, BB isn\'t the type of guy who likes to get into the groove of things. He just wanted them to be his sort of back up band, his plane for solo-ing over, thats not what phish is...
~Dan
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If Chuck Garvey(moe.) ever sat in with PB, I think I\'d shit my pants.
Just thinking about Tim and Chuck going back and forth trying to outdo one another blows my mind.
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Am I the only person in the damn world who doesn\'t like moe.? (No offense Igzy, just personal preference...)
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joce, i don\'t know if i like them or not.. i\'ll explain -
i like their songs, and i like their albums. i\'ve seen them 15-20 times, and they just don\'t do it for me live... i don\'t know what it is, but i\'d rather not hear them jam... but i like their songs... weird..
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not so weird... I know where you\'re coming from. I liked more them before I saw them live a few times, and I sort of felt like they shouldn\'t try to be a jamband...
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I hear ya...Seeing them live is hit or miss. I have heard moe shows that I couldnt finsh listening, while last time I saw them at the Palace they were freakin off the hook. Bottom line is they write catchy songs....I havnt listened to my moe. cds in awhile and yet I can still recite their songs to ya...
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I can understand where y\'all are coming from, moe.\'s definitely not for everyone. I don\'t really see them as trying to be a jamband, they\'re just being theirselves. Their music(more often than not) is a lot harder than most jambands, some people who are used to the dead/phish-style jambands may not agree with it too much, but it suits me fine.
Their style of jamming is also a lot different than most jambands. They tend to stick to long drawn out solos and switch off back and forth between them, as opposed to a band like Phish who all work together in any given jam and guide it into certain directions. As far as musicianship is concerned, they\'re all top-notch, I don\'t think they\'re skill on their respective instruments can be argued(esp. Rob).
That Palace show you speak of was one of my highlights of last year, without a doubt the flat out funnest show I\'ve ever been to. From the Meat jam that went into Rockafella Skank to the mariachi band joining them for Mexico, it was a night to remember.
All they basically are is five guys going out on stage with the sole purpose of having fun, and more often than not it works out for the best.
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Well said Igzy.
I have no arguments. Still stickin with my opinion though.
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Originally posted by Igziabeher
All they basically are is five guys going out on stage with the sole purpose of having fun, and more often than not it works out for the best.
Exactly! Thats what I like about them....You just go to a moe show to have fun and its not like phish where soo much is expected of you as a band...
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Originally posted by jocelyn
Am I the only person in the damn world who doesn\'t like moe.? (No offense Igzy, just personal preference...)
are you an umph fan at all. I know quite a few umph fans that cant stand moe. the rest I know love moe.
~Dan
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oh, thanks Grayson, I didn\'t see that post for some reason.
Yes Dan, I think the guys in UM are hugely talented. Don\'t know their music ALL that well (unfortunatley I don\'t have a single album or show), but every time I\'ve seen them they have torn it up.
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someone already said it, but john medeski!
the breakfast and primus alternating sets would be ser!
how \'bout wooten!
cut chemist from j5 & ozomatli!
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and jerry garcia and frank zappa