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General Discussions => Spunk => Topic started by: zuke583 on July 21, 2011, 12:40:40 pm
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if you needed to stay awake for [-]100[/-] 200 consecutive hours?
let\'s say there is some huge reward for completing this ($1 million). you can combine drugs if you like. they don\'t necessarily have to be illegal. they have to be real drugs (e.g. no theoretical secret government concoction).
i\'ve wavered back and forth on this and my final answer is going to be cocaine. its effects are nearly instant, so there\'s no lag time. i think peyote is an interesting choice, but i would be too concerned about the lag time between ingestion and stimulation.
you?
(this idea is property of wolfman, but i couldn\'t wait any longer to see a thread started)
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might as well take a shitload of *** and make those 5 days interesting.
but i\'m sure meth would work best
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rust ...
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might as well take a shitload of *** and make those 5 days interesting.
while that would be the most fun, i think the stimulant properties would wear down over those days. plus there might be some side effects to that bender that never go away. maybe a nice balance of yay/*** is ideal
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i KNOW SOMEONE ;) who\'s done about 4 full days on mostly *** although on the 4th night HE had to add in some ***** to help the cause.
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Maybe make it a bit harder for the money. 100 hours? Just over 4 days?
There are crackheads all over that would take that prize home.
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should i \'like\' this thread on facebook so all my coworkers\' suspicions of me are confirmed? :lol:
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Maybe make it a bit harder for the money. 100 hours? Just over 4 days?
There are crackheads all over that would take that prize home.
100 hours was really just a nice round number at the time of the discussion. definitely not long enough as i saw tuna accomplish the mission with zero incentive. i\'ll double that to 200 hours. 8+ days with no sleep would be pretty ridiculous
should i \'like\' this thread on facebook so all my coworkers\' suspicions of me are confirmed? :lol:
oh come on. you never hang out super late night. my prediction: you would choose whiskey and last <18 hrs
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should i \'like\' this thread on facebook so all my coworkers\' suspicions of me are confirmed? :lol:
oh come on. you never hang out super late night. my prediction: you would choose whiskey and last <18 hrs
beavis voice: are you threatening me?? (tho yeah, you\'ve got me pretty pegged -- at least now in my old age.)
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Heh, this was a good conversation at Breakfest. My strategy would be to go as long as I could just on **** and alcohol (probably 40 hours) and then drop the peyote/mescaline. If I were coming up 10-50 hours short at that point I\'m not sure what I\'d do. Probably 2CT7.
For anyone not familiar with Erowids Psycoactive Vault, this might give you some good ideas:
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/
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Hahaha halarious thread.
As some of you witnessed last weekend 100 hours is no problem for me. Beyond that, you\'re going to need some help.
Cocaine? No good. When you\'ve been awake for a long time you become naturally hypertensive and cocaine will send you the way of the big K.O.
2C-T-7... interesting choice. But that stuff only lasts about 12 hours and is considerably rougher on the body than something like *** or mescaline. Cardiovascular stress combined with 2C-T-7 around the 100+ hour mark would be a real concern.
(thanks for the link Wolfman... did you know I used to work for Erowid? also proud, I guess, to say I\'ve sampled the majority of the PIHKAL and TIHKAL catalog)
What I would recommend would be to attempt the first 100 hours with NO DRUGS. Lots of water, lots of vitamins. B vitamins. Potassium. The first 100 hours is going to be about getting ready for the next 100 hours which is the real fucking challenge.
Okay so you\'ve made it to 100 hours and you\'re sober and well nourished and well hydrated, so here we go.
100 hours to 112 hours: eat 150ug ***. Enough for a moderate trip and providing plenty of clean stimulation that won\'t tax your cardiovascular system too much.
This whole time you better be raging B vitamins and eating lots of fruit or there\'s no way you\'ll make it.
112 hours - 124 hours: 250ug ***... as you\'ve built a tolerance and no doubt things are getting weird but at this point if you\'re even still hanging in there you have a mind of a jedi so this isn\'t really the issue. Stay awake.
124 hours - 130 hours: Give your mind and body a break, your soul needs it to. Spend some time in the K-hole. You won\'t fall asleep but it will give your spirit the rest it needs.
130 hours - 142 hours: Eat a 10-strip of ***. You will want to start drinking some wine now as well, as it will make your heart feel better. Make sure to drink a shit ton of water as well.
142 hours +
Beyond this point you\'re going to have to eat around a quarter sheet of acid to stay in the groove. If the *** were starting to lose it stimulating properties at this point I might suggest stacking, say, 4mg or 6mg DOC on top of it. DOC is a long lasting, very clean but stimulating psychedelic which provides a clear-headed trip with beautiful visuals taboot. This and *** are the only drugs suitable for long-term stimulation that won\'t kill your body or rape your mind. I would suggest taking "spiritual breaks" with Ketamine or, preferably at this point, 3-meo-PCE or 3-meo-2-oxo-PCE as they will help block dopamine reuptake without causing cardiovascular stress.
That\'s the only way to do it. There\'s lots of fancy drugs that can keep you awake and get you spun, but if you\'re planning for a long haul like this, you\'ve gotta take your health of body and mind seriously and use the proper substances.
Live and learn.
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That all said, I wouldn\'t recommend going beyond 150 hours.
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^^^ This post made me LOL 3 or 4 times. "I wouldn\'t recommend going past 150 hours" = LULZ. Nice work.
I couldn\'t resist taking this to PT. I know we won\'t get any good elaborate answers like tuna\'s but couldn\'t resist seeing what would come up. I also thought it would be funniest to post this on PT at around 1AM on a weeknight. So far meth is the clear favorite.
Thread: http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2777811/posts
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tuna you know your drugs man
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jesus
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jesus
Jesus could only get you to hour 96 at best. After that, I think it\'s time of pharmaceuticals.
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If you needed something with a little more balls than *** or DOC you could try adding the following options:
DOI @ 4mg will keep you spun for close to 30 hours, although it\'s sort of a lame trip.
DOM aka "STP" @ 10mg will keep you spun for close to 30 hours, although I feel like this one could stress your body a bit much for the purpose of this experiment.
Bromo-Dragonfly @ 800-1200ug will keep you spun for close to 30 hours, although I haven\'t personally tried this one and I hear it can have a bit of a body load for susceptible individuals.
You could also substitute ***-25 with ETH-LAD, PRO-LAD, LSP, LSH, or LSB, although I don\'t really see the point when *** will work just fine and probably keep you up slightly better than these lysergic analogs.
Mescaline is no good because it lacks the redose-ability of above substances. Pure mescaline isn\'t even that stimulating. Peyote is, but it\'s a rough ride. San Pedro or Peruvian Torch cactus extract lies somewhere in the middle.
TMA-2 or TMA-4 could be used to keep you up for quite a while but it\'s a shitty trip and not easy enough on the cardio system to be preferred for this experiment.
If we are going to discuss amphetamines or amphetamine like drugs, the only ones easy enough on the body and long lasting enough would be propyl-amphetamine or trans-4-mar. But these drugs would make this experiment slightly more dangerous. Amphetamine psychosis is no joke. Use good judgement.
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The last time i went on a Jenkem bender, i was up for 12 days straight, no joke. By day 7 i was riding on the back of a living midget hooker caterpillar train (they were all on their hands n knees, head to ass, and I was the Jockey)... some of the best nights of my life.
So ya, Jenkem. ftw
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Tuna\'s P-90 *** routine might get you pretty far, but at some point it is inevitable that you will either...
A. be too messed up on *** and Special-K to even realize you are in a contest where you need to stay awake for 200 hours
B. Just fall asleep so quickly you can\'t even react with more drugs in time
C. Die
It would be essential, beyond the 120 hour mark, to repeat one thought in mind.
"Stay awake" "Stay awake"
Nobody is pretending this would be any kind of fun at all. But in this case a certain thought-loop might be your only savior.
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We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we\'d get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.
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Peaches and booze, are you getting these stories from Erowids? There are some great stories on that site. The 2C-T-7 stories are particularly incredible. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7.shtml and scroll down.
Here\'s another relevant question: If you were offered the 200 hour challenge for $1 million dollars, would you actually attempt it? I don\'t think I\'d even bother trying.
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Here\'s another relevant question: If you were offered the 200 hour challenge for $1 million dollars, would you actually attempt it? I don\'t think I\'d even bother trying.
call me a rich man!
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Peaches and booze, are you getting these stories from Erowids? There are some great stories on that site. The 2C-T-7 stories are particularly incredible. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7.shtml and scroll down.
i recognize booze\'s as a few lines from \'fear and loathing.\' i assume peaches\' story is 100% true
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Here\'s another relevant question: If you were offered the 200 hour challenge for $1 million dollars, would you actually attempt it? I don\'t think I\'d even bother trying.
call me a rich man!
i\'d be permanently off my rocker afterwards, but i\'d give it a solid run for it.
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and i\'ve never known zuke to be wrong about anything, ever.
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There\'s nothing like a good ol\' wine enema to make you feel alive!
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tunas god damn donefor
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made it home... got a pretty ser headache though
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i would say this is as good a place as any to ask who\'s got my heady mescaline / cactus products? are these drugs even still available nowadays? :wah:
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i would say this is as good a place as any to ask who\'s got my heady mescaline / cactus products? are these drugs even still available nowadays? :wah:
http://cgi.ebay.com/San-Pedro-cactus-Trichocereus-Pachanoi-cuttings-5-lbs-/160619770081?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565af30e1
You can also use Peruvian Torch, which might be slightly more potent. But San Pedro is more predictable in it\'s potency so I recommend that.
You will need to use approximately the length of your forearm (probably 12-14") of cactus for a reasonable mescaline experience.
Follow these steps to make a disgusting tasting slimy "tea" from the cactus. I won\'t say how to make a pure mescaline extraction here because it\'s more complicated and also more illegal. And not really necessary anyway.
1. Cut spines off the cactus.
2. Cut out the woody core and discard that, keeping the inner light green flesh and dark green flesh, as well as the skin.
3. Chop all that up finely and then mash it up real good and put into a big metal pot.
4. Add about a liter of water, a few splashes of vinegar.
5. Put on medium/low heat and stir the stuff up for about an hour.
6. Use an old tee-shirt to dump the mixture into and squeeze the juices out into another metal pot.
7. Repeat steps 4-6 two more times so basically you\'re getting all the juice out of the cactus possible.
8. Now that you\'ve got a bunch of slimy green cactus juice in a pot you will want to slowly simmer it down on low/medium heat until it\'s mostly evaporated. Don\'t let it evaporate too much or it will burn. You want to basically simmer it down to a couple cups worth of thick green liquid.
It will be one of the worst tastes you\'ve ever tasted. And you stomach won\'t like it much for about an hour. But it takes about an hour to feel anything and two hours to start tripping and by that point your stomach should be fine. If you have to puke, at least try to wait an hour so you absorb all the mescaline. You\'ll feel fine after that.
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What I always like is my special Slip N\' Slide smoothie for a great high!
Want to fly? Want to feel way good? Try this:
Get that smoothie blender out. 4oz of vanilla yogurt. Handful of frozen strawberries.
1 cup soy milk. 1/2 cup frozen vanilla yogurt. Blend for one minute.
Ad 2 cups of Ivory dish soap. Blend for 30 seconds.
Wait an hour, then blow bubbles out your ass. It\'s a six to seven hour high!
You won\'t have to use toilet paper for a week after also. Slip N\' Slide your troubles away!
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i would say this is as good a place as any to ask who\'s got my heady mescaline / cactus products? are these drugs even still available nowadays? :wah:
http://cgi.ebay.com/San-Pedro-cactus-Trichocereus-Pachanoi-cuttings-5-lbs-/160619770081?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565af30e1
You can also use Peruvian Torch, which might be slightly more potent. But San Pedro is more predictable in it\'s potency so I recommend that.
You will need to use approximately the length of your forearm (probably 12-14") of cactus for a reasonable mescaline experience.
Follow these steps to make a disgusting tasting slimy "tea" from the cactus. I won\'t say how to make a pure mescaline extraction here because it\'s more complicated and also more illegal. And not really necessary anyway.
1. Cut spines off the cactus.
2. Cut out the woody core and discard that, keeping the inner light green flesh and dark green flesh, as well as the skin.
3. Chop all that up finely and then mash it up real good and put into a big metal pot.
4. Add about a liter of water, a few splashes of vinegar.
5. Put on medium/low heat and stir the stuff up for about an hour.
6. Use an old tee-shirt to dump the mixture into and squeeze the juices out into another metal pot.
7. Repeat steps 4-6 two more times so basically you\'re getting all the juice out of the cactus possible.
8. Now that you\'ve got a bunch of slimy green cactus juice in a pot you will want to slowly simmer it down on low/medium heat until it\'s mostly evaporated. Don\'t let it evaporate too much or it will burn. You want to basically simmer it down to a couple cups worth of thick green liquid.
It will be one of the worst tastes you\'ve ever tasted. And you stomach won\'t like it much for about an hour. But it takes about an hour to feel anything and two hours to start tripping and by that point your stomach should be fine. If you have to puke, at least try to wait an hour so you absorb all the mescaline. You\'ll feel fine after that.
I think this needs to go in the Breakfest III Request Line thread. Imagine if everyone there drinks this shit...
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We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we\'d get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.
ahhhh...the one and only....nice work.