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Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 09, 2008, 12:23:56 pm
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=514558 (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=514558)

The Breakfast
April 4, 2008
The Kinetic Playground
Chicago, IL

Source: Peluso CEMC-6 CK21-> Hydra Silvers-> XTC Silver Interconnects-> R4 + SBD 24/48
Lineage: R4-> USB-> Soundforge-> flac 16/44
Taped & Transferred by: Rob Wallin

Disc 1
Set 1
01. jam >
02. Reel Time
03. The World Needs Us
04. jam >
05. Tribal Funk Affliction >
06. The Sound >
07. Tribal Funk Affliction >
08. And She Was

Disc 2
Set 2
01. Wilson intro >
02. Buquebus >
03. Spunk* >
04. Drums
05. Reba#
06. The Message

Disc 3
Set 2 cont\'d
01. Rufus >
02. Living Daylights
03. Encore break
04. The Price Is Right Theme >
05. Honey Butter


Notes:
The Hue opened.
* With Bass Solo.
# No Whistling.

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Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: siflandollie on April 09, 2008, 12:33:15 pm
hey now
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: princesscaspian on April 09, 2008, 02:07:20 pm
holy MATRIX!!!! THANK YOU! amazing!
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: madpicken on April 09, 2008, 04:34:45 pm
thanks
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 09, 2008, 04:41:39 pm
Jeremy I\'ve still got the 16/48 untracked version for you for the video I\'ll send you in teh mail along with The Hue\'s matrixed set....
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: ds673488 on April 09, 2008, 05:49:47 pm
thanks for the good work
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Mark on April 11, 2008, 11:46:55 am
Wait, what kind of recording?

THANK YOU!
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: derickw on April 11, 2008, 12:02:49 pm
can anyone post this somewhere else. i can\'t do torrents anymore:(
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: jking on April 11, 2008, 02:29:35 pm
i can sendspace it for ya once i get home. do you want mp3\'s or wav\'s?
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: derickw on April 11, 2008, 03:10:58 pm
Quote from: jking;186105
i can sendspace it for ya once i get home. do you want mp3\'s or wav\'s?


mp3\'s is cool. i won\'t be able to snag them till monday so no rush from me
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: jking on April 11, 2008, 04:46:20 pm
no problem!
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: ChrisF on April 11, 2008, 07:01:07 pm
Quote from: derickw;186108
Quote from: jking;186105
i can sendspace it for ya once i get home. do you want mp3\'s or wav\'s?


mp3\'s is cool. i won\'t be able to snag them till monday so no rush from me


just get the one on archive it sounds better. from what i heard this matrix sounds like it has sync and phasing issues.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Todd on April 11, 2008, 07:09:11 pm
Quote from: ChrisF;186139
just get the one on archive it sounds better. from what i heard this matrix sounds like it has sync and phasing issues.

I\'m listening now for the first time. I\'m only a couple minutes in and I totally concur. Sounds pretty weird. I\'m not a sound guy, but appreciate sound. Is it possible that left sbd got mixed with right aud mic and vice versa? Could that cause this weirdness?
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: jking on April 11, 2008, 07:13:28 pm
wow, ok, i haven\'t had a chance to listen to it yet, but i will right now!


well, i usually prefer aud\'s anyway, but yeah, it sorta sounds like there\'s a bit of a reverb-effect on there (especially with the vocals - and not the reverb that\'s supposed to be there, you can hear that come on and off...). its not bad, but i can definitely see why it sounds off to some ears...

that being said, i\'m gonna go ahead and sendspace it anyway, so folks can hear and make the decision for themselves...
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: ChrisF on April 11, 2008, 08:15:09 pm
Quote from: Todd;186140
Is it possible that left sbd got mixed with right aud mic and vice versa? Could that cause this weirdness?

no, its because there is a short time day for the distance the mics are from the stage because of the time it takes sound to travel.

the soundboard has no delay at all, so when you mix the two together and do not compensate for the delay for the time it takes the sound to hit the audience mics you can hear them out of sync.

and sometimes the phase on one of the sources needs to be inverted before you mix them together because if not they cancel parts each other out kinda like how negative 1 plus positive 1 equals zero. that is basically the weirdness you are hearing.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 12, 2008, 07:34:41 pm
I believe the AUD recording was about .30 milli-seconds off from the board recording. Sorry if you don\'t like the results.. I didn\'t have time to try and make everything perfect, I\'m the soundguy/ archivist for a Milwaukee band full time and have been busy as shit archiving their stuff along with my day job. IMO my AUD sounds better than my MATRIX too. But I haven\'t had time to post it yet. And the reverb is what the soundguy was throwing on the vocals & it was loud as shit on the board mix. There aren\'t any phasing issues either Chris, what you\'re hearing is the .30 millisecond delay. I went out of my way to go down and tape this show, and if you guys are going to nit-pick ticky-tac bullshit i just won\'t bother bringing my rig next time. Or I\'d be more than happy to send both sources to you and you can synch it yourself, because frankly I don\'t have time to fuck with it.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: FreeSpirit on April 12, 2008, 08:24:10 pm
Quote from: oscoastierob;186183
I went out of my way to go down and tape this show, and if you guys are going to nit-pick ticky-tac bullshit i just won\'t bother bringing my rig next time.


:wave: There are many of us who appreciate the fact that you took the time to tape this show... I think people just want the best quality sound they can hear, so if there\'s a delay or something that can be worked a little better, of course they\'ll make a point of posting it! :shrug:
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Klout on April 12, 2008, 09:19:19 pm
making sure the two recordings are properly synched = nit-pick ticky-tac bullshit

:fucktard:
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: freddiewaht on April 12, 2008, 11:42:16 pm
Quote from: oscoastierob;186183
I believe the AUD recording was about .30 milli-seconds off from the board recording. Sorry if you don\'t like the results.. I didn\'t have time to try and make everything perfect, I\'m the soundguy/ archivist for a Milwaukee band full time and have been busy as shit archiving their stuff along with my day job. IMO my AUD sounds better than my MATRIX too. But I haven\'t had time to post it yet. And the reverb is what the soundguy was throwing on the vocals & it was loud as shit on the board mix. There aren\'t any phasing issues either Chris, what you\'re hearing is the .30 millisecond delay. I went out of my way to go down and tape this show, and if you guys are going to nit-pick ticky-tac bullshit i just won\'t bother bringing my rig next time. Or I\'d be more than happy to send both sources to you and you can synch it yourself, because frankly I don\'t have time to fuck with it.




peep the meltdown..
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: ds673488 on April 13, 2008, 02:18:57 am
we\'ll, looks like that will be his last post.  i didnt listen to it, ill just see them live 3 times next weekend instead
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 13, 2008, 02:52:28 am
it won\'t be my last post, i\'m just saying i was busy and have other shit to deal with and i\'m not worried if my shit is perfect or not.. like i said i\'d gladly mail the two recordings to anyone who wants to try and synch them up better, i just don\'t have the time, i\'m spread too thin already..
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: ChrisF on April 13, 2008, 03:36:13 am
Quote from: oscoastierob;186207
it won\'t be my last post, i\'m just saying i was busy and have other shit to deal with and i\'m not worried if my shit is perfect or not.. like i said i\'d gladly mail the two recordings to anyone who wants to try and synch them up better, i just don\'t have the time, i\'m spread too thin already..


def make sure both get backed up. it would be cool to use them to make a 5.1 mix for jeremy\'s video.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 13, 2008, 08:32:15 am
Quote from: ChrisF;186211
Quote from: oscoastierob;186207
it won\'t be my last post, i\'m just saying i was busy and have other shit to deal with and i\'m not worried if my shit is perfect or not.. like i said i\'d gladly mail the two recordings to anyone who wants to try and synch them up better, i just don\'t have the time, i\'m spread too thin already..


def make sure both get backed up. it would be cool to use them to make a 5.1 mix for jeremy\'s video.



Jeremy\'s getting everything I have for the video. A 5.1 mix would be pretty cool, it\'s too bad he can\'t use the 24 bit 48kHz version for that instead of 16 bit 48kHz on a DVD. I listen to my 24 bit stuff on DVD-A\'s all the time. It sucks you can\'t have the video & 24 bit audio combined. I guess thats why everything is migrating to blu-ray.

Quote from: Klout;186193
making sure the two recordings are properly synched = nit-pick ticky-tac bullshit

:fucktard:



It\'s not like its 3 seconds off. It\'s .3 milli-seconds off. I ASSUMED the average person wouldn\'t notice the .3 milli-second delay. Especially since the mp3 generation is used to lossy, shitty quality recordings played on an i-pod. Could it be synched better? Yeah. Did I have time to perfect it? No. Would the Average-Joe even notice synch issues on this recording? I seriously doubt it. And you guys don\'t count as the Average-Joe. You\'re all verging on audiophile status.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Klout on April 13, 2008, 10:24:06 am
just breakin your balls guy.  thanks for the time and effort.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Todd on April 13, 2008, 11:57:35 am
Rob- didn\'t mean to ruffle the feathers! I appreciate the fact that you took the time to record the show. Too many of them go unrecorded and it\'s a shame. So, thanks!!
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: freddiewaht on April 13, 2008, 12:24:43 pm
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 13, 2008, 01:34:49 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;186224
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah


mickeymouse operation my ass... I\'ve got over $2500 worth of gear and make hundreds of excellent recordings a year, newsflash... not all of them turn out immaculate.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: Todd on April 13, 2008, 01:49:56 pm
Pay no mind to Freddie. He puts the ickey in mickeymouse.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: freddiewaht on April 13, 2008, 02:06:26 pm
Quote from: oscoastierob;186229
Quote from: freddiewaht;186224
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah


mickeymouse operation my ass... I\'ve got over $2500 worth of gear and make hundreds of excellent recordings a year, newsflash... not all of them turn out immaculate.




2g\'s worth of gear and your recordings are still off?
did u read the instruction manuals before setting up shop?
the dude who sold you your gear musta seen u comin from a mile away brah.
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 13, 2008, 03:36:26 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;186234
Quote from: oscoastierob;186229
Quote from: freddiewaht;186224
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah


mickeymouse operation my ass... I\'ve got over $2500 worth of gear and make hundreds of excellent recordings a year, newsflash... not all of them turn out immaculate.




2g\'s worth of gear and your recordings are still off?
did u read the instruction manuals before setting up shop?
the dude who sold you your gear musta seen u comin from a mile away brah.


trust me i know how to use my gear. the problems with this recording have nothing to do with my gear, it\'s all post editing on the computer. which i didn\'t really have enough time to spend on as i would have liked to.  

Same venue a few months ago... http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16)
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: freddiewaht on April 13, 2008, 03:53:59 pm
Quote from: oscoastierob;186236
Quote from: freddiewaht;186234
Quote from: oscoastierob;186229
Quote from: freddiewaht;186224
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah


mickeymouse operation my ass... I\'ve got over $2500 worth of gear and make hundreds of excellent recordings a year, newsflash... not all of them turn out immaculate.




2g\'s worth of gear and your recordings are still off?
did u read the instruction manuals before setting up shop?
the dude who sold you your gear musta seen u comin from a mile away brah.


trust me i know how to use my gear. the problems with this recording have nothing to do with my gear, it\'s all post editing on the computer. which i didn\'t really have enough time to spend on as i would have liked to.  

Same venue a few months ago... http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16)


your words mean nothing to me brotha
Title: [BT] 4-4-2008 Kinetic Playground - Chicago, IL ***MATRIX***MATRIX***
Post by: oscoastierob on April 13, 2008, 04:12:05 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;186238
Quote from: oscoastierob;186236
Quote from: freddiewaht;186234
Quote from: oscoastierob;186229
Quote from: freddiewaht;186224
if your gonna do it either
a.do it right
b.dont do it at all
plain/simple
its got dick to do with being audiofiles,just folks who want to hear shit the way its supposed to sound
take your mickeymouse operation and kys
tia,fwah


mickeymouse operation my ass... I\'ve got over $2500 worth of gear and make hundreds of excellent recordings a year, newsflash... not all of them turn out immaculate.




2g\'s worth of gear and your recordings are still off?
did u read the instruction manuals before setting up shop?
the dude who sold you your gear musta seen u comin from a mile away brah.


trust me i know how to use my gear. the problems with this recording have nothing to do with my gear, it\'s all post editing on the computer. which i didn\'t really have enough time to spend on as i would have liked to.  

Same venue a few months ago... http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/breakfast2007-09-27.peluso.cemc6.ck21.flac16)


your words mean nothing to me brotha


so go listen dipshit, thats why i posted the link above