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Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: davepeck on June 01, 2009, 01:02:15 pm
I: jam > Tribal Funk Affliction, Synergy > Taboo Or Not Taboot, Buquebus, Metropolis
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Igziabeher on June 01, 2009, 01:04:09 pm
sYNERGY> Taboo
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 01, 2009, 01:23:36 pm
There was a beef barely tease in there somewhere.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Igziabeher on June 01, 2009, 01:27:09 pm
BB tease was during the > into Metro.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on June 01, 2009, 02:26:47 pm
this was fun although i could hardly stand up after phish. great turnout.

so the management at harpers ferry still sucks and they didn\'t let a number of people in. the people who work the door need to realize that the bar is not fucking studio 54 and they need get their heads out of their asses.

2 good friends of mine from ny got there and they wouldn\'t let one in and we truly believe that itwas because the kid was wearing too much orange. he was not even that drunk.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 01, 2009, 02:51:15 pm
so did it sell out? i can picture this being a rage fest... the setlist looks ahnice
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 01, 2009, 02:58:36 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;232227
so did it sell out? i can picture this being a rage fest... the setlist looks ahnice


I don\'t think so, but it was pretty full for a sunday.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Gordo on June 01, 2009, 03:00:24 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya;232224
this was fun although i could hardly stand up after phish. great turnout.

so the management at harpers ferry still sucks and they didn\'t let a number of people in. the people who work the door need to realize that the bar is not fucking studio 54 and they need get their heads out of their asses.

2 good friends of mine from ny got there and they wouldn\'t let one in and we truly believe that itwas because the kid was wearing too much orange. he was not even that drunk.


Sucks for him/her, but this comment has me pissing my pants.

Awesome to see a "great turnout" report.

I love summer.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 03:24:18 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya;232224

so the management at harpers ferry still sucks and they didn\'t let a number of people in. the people who work the door need to realize that the bar is not fucking studio 54 and they need get their heads out of their asses.


What a dogshit venue.  I never did go there and I\'m certainly glad I didn\'t.

That is why I hate so many of the bars in the northeast- the meathead door staff treats people so poorly.  

Someone needs to vandalize the place, stat.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Yoda on June 01, 2009, 03:47:10 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya;232224
2 good friends of mine from ny got there and they wouldn\'t let one in and we truly believe that itwas because the kid was wearing too much orange. he was not even that drunk.


It\'s a stupid reason for not letting someone in, but if Harper\'s Ferry is as Irish as I think it is, the kid might as well have been wearing a union jack shirt; would have gotten the same response...
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Gfunk on June 01, 2009, 04:11:28 pm
yeah fuck those meatheadfuckwaddipshitprickjobs. Gabo got denied and Mia The Chia got denied and got her 8th of headies taken. Queeb>metrop was fuckin ser kiiiiiid. Party bus fo life.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: DocEllis70 on June 01, 2009, 04:14:06 pm
harpers ferry staff are tool bags  but the Breakfast kicked ass
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 04:24:37 pm
Quote from: Gfunk;232237
Gabo got denied and Mia The Chia got denied and got her 8th of headies taken. .


did Gabo have the band get him in?

So the chick got her headies taken and was also denied entrance?  That is not even right unless the door guy was a cop.  what the fuck?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: wiredchicken on June 01, 2009, 04:38:07 pm
ugh, sucks there were problems

glad it was a great time. i almost headed up last minute. shouldve since it wa shitty on the beach
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: freddiewaht on June 01, 2009, 04:42:48 pm
seeing im permabanned from the shithole,i had to take matters into my own hands and sneak in the sidedoor.
the band killed it.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: liveforlive on June 01, 2009, 05:02:55 pm
Yeah I had trouble getting in as well, a long with a couple of my friends. I was surprised at how many asshats that place employs...

...oh well, I hope they killed it. I will have to catch them on the cruise with god damn U-Melt...
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: FieryBill on June 01, 2009, 05:11:07 pm
Great time! It was definitely Queeb > Metro and there was a Buried Alive tease in Metro...
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Igziabeher on June 01, 2009, 05:16:51 pm
i thought i heard a smooth criminal tease somewhere in there too.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: freddiewaht on June 01, 2009, 05:36:26 pm
havent raged a breakfast show like that in quite some time.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 05:37:20 pm
Quote from: liveforlive;232245
Yeah I had trouble getting in as well, a long with a couple of my friends. I was surprised at how many asshats that place employs....


How can that many people have trouble getting in?

worst venue ever?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Gfunk on June 01, 2009, 05:43:35 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;232240
Quote from: Gfunk;232237
Gabo got denied and Mia The Chia got denied and got her 8th of headies taken. .


did Gabo have the band get him in?

So the chick got her headies taken and was also denied entrance?  That is not even right unless the door guy was a cop.  what the fuck?


Gabo was basically shit outta luck. I didn\'t see what exactly happened with Mia but i wouldn\'t have let those c0ck smokers snatch my stash. i felt/feel really bad for my friends who got shit on by these fucking losers, why would they not want more people inside buying drinks?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 05:47:16 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;232249
havent raged a breakfast show like that in quite some time.


How long since your last Breakfast show?  2005?  NTD

Quote from: Gfunk;232253


Gabo was basically shit outta luck. I didn\'t see what exactly happened with Mia but i wouldn\'t have let those c0ck smokers snatch my stash. i felt/feel really bad for my friends who got shit on by these fucking losers, why would they not want more people inside buying drinks?


She should have taken her **** back if she was gonna be denied entrance, or possibly rally up the hundred people who did not get in to mutinize the door[-]man[/-]meathead
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: thatguy on June 01, 2009, 05:55:31 pm
todd told me that gavin put himself in that possition cutting the line and arguing with the bouncer to no end until the guy just said get out of here....just saying.ok so we get a good turnout here...awesome,oh wait lets talkshit about the venue so no one shows up next time...sweet
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Gfunk on June 01, 2009, 07:08:37 pm
Quote from: thatguy;232257
todd told me that gavin put himself in that possition cutting the line and arguing with the bouncer to no end until the guy just said get out of here....just saying.ok so we get a good turnout here...awesome,oh wait lets talkshit about the venue so no one shows up next time...sweet


i will still go to shows there and i\'m not trying to deter others from coming out but there is no denying that the doorguys were asshats. :shrug:
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: thatguy on June 01, 2009, 07:14:15 pm
asshats,yes,but worse venue ever?ithink not! we need that place right now and honestly the stage,sound and cap. is perfect for us,better than the middle east for sure...but asshats yes
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 07:16:09 pm
The horror stories of unnecessary meathead nonsense at this place make it sound like a bullshit operation. Maybe more a reflection of Boston/northeast in general than this bar specifically.  

Glad you guys played a great show with a great turnout and look forward to seeing you on the boat, papa smurf!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 01, 2009, 07:17:39 pm
Quote from: thatguy;232257
todd told me that gavin put himself in that possition cutting the line and arguing with the bouncer to no end until the guy just said get out of here....just saying.ok so we get a good turnout here...awesome,oh wait lets talkshit about the venue so no one shows up next time...sweet


good to hear that the place was almost packed. hopefully a lot of noobs will be turned onto you guys now... by the looks of that setlist how could they not!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: thatguy on June 01, 2009, 07:23:12 pm
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;232260
The horror stories of unnecessary meathead nonsense at this place make it sound like a bullshit operation. Maybe more a reflection of Boston/northeast in general than this bar specifically.  

Glad you guys played a great show with a great turnout and look forward to seeing you on the boat, papa smurf!


see ya zurffete!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: leith on June 01, 2009, 07:56:51 pm
Quote from: Gfunk;232237
yeah fuck those meatheadfuckwaddipshitprickjobs. Gabo got denied and Mia The Chia got denied and got her 8th of headies taken. Queeb>metrop was fuckin ser kiiiiiid. Party bus fo life.


What happened to MA. being **** friendly?
Could of sworn there was some hoopla about that around here recently.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 01, 2009, 08:00:06 pm
Party bus was off the hook, I\'m still feelin pretty w00ked out from all that.

Adr , I hear you on the it\'s a good venue you wanna play angle, but fact of the matter is probably your most stoked fan to see you that night -- probably Gavin -- got seriously injusticized at the door.

It could have been any or all of us... they said Gavin had "one too many" but many of us were way worse for wear post Phish than him on the way into Harpers. Those of us who did have tickets in advance had to wait at the end of the line and were let in well into the start of Tribal. They asked us where we had all come from (who cares?) and we said Phish, and they made us wait outside until callin some undercover po-po to try to buy **** and shit from the fans inside. Finally they let us in and I thought shit there must be 1000 people in here if I can\'t even get in with tickets in hand....

Awesome totally excellent Breakfast show and one of the best times of my life that night--

But also dickest move ever seen by a venue to single out and shaft Gavin like that. He was just asking why the fuck we couldn\'t get in to see the band once we could hear them already playing. We were all asking the same thing and there was nothing rude about how Gavin approached it he was just frustrated as many of us were. Just for the record :P

Breakfast also kicked some ass that night !
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ds673488 on June 01, 2009, 08:01:20 pm
i keep saying this, but these guys honestly get better and better every show...this one was for the ages and fitzy told me they are doing a HD DVD of the show with full surround sound 5.1 action....YEAHHHH....i had so much fun here it was worth the 6 mile walk alone (3 in the wrong direction).  

Band was absolutely on fucking fire, everyone stayed till the end, crowd was straight getting down hardcore the entire time.  The sound system there was spectacular, i was saying that to myself the entire time.  great to see everyone!

prob best one set no encore show ive ever seen.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: thatguy on June 01, 2009, 08:12:11 pm
ok...that sucks. they have no right to do that! i heard a different story.but i am now pissed also....fuck theres always something
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 08:29:25 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;232265
They asked us where we had all come from (who cares?) and we said Phish, and they made us wait outside until callin some undercover po-po to try to buy **** and shit from the fans inside


Trying to bust kids innocent hippie kids going to a concert is so pathetic.  You\'d think a city the size of Boston would have more important priorities, especially after that recent decriminalization law.




So....this gig was close to a sellout?  Adrian, you guys should jump on the Phish gravy train again in some other cities in the region while they are touring.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 01, 2009, 08:38:42 pm
Quote from: thatguy;232267
ok...that sucks. they have no right to do that! i heard a different story.but i am now pissed also....fuck theres always something

Just keep playing more shows at Harpers dedicated to Albert Hoffman and we\'ll eat our ***** brownies on the way up to fuck the establishment and support you at the same time.

Fuck em. Everyone whos face made it in was melted.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: KEN RAFLOWITZ on June 01, 2009, 08:54:14 pm
People Came From Far Places To See The Show.
Had Pre-Paid Tickets And Not Allowed In?
I Don\'t Get It.If Someone Is Acting Up Inside,
Quickly Escort Them Out.There Was Atleast Ten Security
Staff To Watch The Crowd.Innocent Until Proven Guilty.
A Bar Is Uncomfortable With Intoxicated People?
Sorry To The Fans Not Allowed In.
Fenway Let Them In! How Bad Could You People Be?
Were These People Offered A Ticket Refund?
Anyway Great Show! I Did Like The Room. The Staff I Met
Seemed Alright. Too Bad I Had My Camera On Pause The Whole Show.
(ha!ha! June fools!)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: freddiewaht on June 01, 2009, 08:59:18 pm
i looked over at the pooltables and couldnt help but remember/laugh about the great burrito incident of 05.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 09:07:14 pm
Did Ken Raflowitz beat up any hooligans with the stepladder on this trip to Boston?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Mamalakabubadaya on June 01, 2009, 09:36:43 pm
Quote from: freddiewaht;232275
i looked over at the pooltables and couldnt help but remember/laugh about the great burrito incident of 05.

haha. the fact that we were both back at harpers last night makes me very happy. i\'m pretty sure the only exciting thing after both of us getting thrown out the last time was the "I LOVE FARTS" bumper sticker.

for future reference, bring your ID to shows so that people don\'t have to open up the side door ;)



i wish i hadn\'t opened up the issue of the management at harpers ferry. for those who got in, the level of the show and the power of broseph obviously outweighed the lame ass staff. i am just bothered by the fact that so many people had a problem getting through the door. those who did make it into harpers were having a blast/dancing up a storm. the guys were on fire (per u) and queeb owned my already phish owned face.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: freddiewaht on June 01, 2009, 09:44:41 pm
Quote from: Mamalakabubadaya;232280
Quote from: freddiewaht;232275
i looked over at the pooltables and couldnt help but remember/laugh about the great burrito incident of 05.

haha. the fact that we were both back at harpers last night makes me very happy. i\'m pretty sure the only exciting thing after both of us getting thrown out the last time was the "I LOVE FARTS" bumper sticker.

for future reference, bring your ID to shows so that people don\'t have to open up the side door ;)



i wish i hadn\'t opened up the issue of the management at harpers ferry. for those who got in, the level of the show and the power of broseph obviously outweighed the lame ass staff. i am just bothered by the fact that so many people had a problem getting through the door. those who did make it into harpers were having a blast/dancing up a storm. the guys were on fire (per u) and queeb owned my already phish owned face.



i lost my license at tab oakdale and havent gotten around to gettin a new one.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: galenas on June 01, 2009, 10:04:45 pm
Quote from: Igziabeher;232247
i thought i heard a smooth criminal tease somewhere in there too.


yeah, definitely but don\'t remember exactly where. during the monster queeb?


my thoughts on this evening are far too heavy to convey in written word right now, but i just want to say that i\'ve never experienced a band playing more as though they were operating under one shared mind before in my life. everyone was just so tuned into what everyone else was doing at all times, the playing was absolutely seamless.

tim dedicated the show to timothy leary, who passed away on May 31, 1996. there\'s no doubt in my mind he was looking out over us all night.

the opening jam was absolutely mind blowing. unfortunately i know a lot of people missed it, though, which is really unfortunate. thank god for tapers. tribal was perfect first song to play in my opinion. i felt such a communal bond running throughout the venue (amongst the fans, not the bouncers outside, for the obvious reasons we can see below...) and tribal really brought us even closer together in that shared "oh my god this shit is absolutely going to be ridiculous" sort of awe. synergy and taboo are such hot songs, they provided a good upbeat vibe following the super heady tribal. and it turns out that more groovable respite was needed because the queeb that came next was nothing short of a masterpiece. tim, man. you blew my mind all night, but i felt like the queeb featured some of the most heartfelt and mature playing i\'ve ever heard from you. there was one point where i could have erupted into tears because your playing was so soulful, but just like great friends are always there to do, doozer, animal and sequoia swept in and carried my focus to merrier planes. metropolis is imo one of the best breakfast songs there is, and last night added weight to that argument. plus, i feel it completed the set so perfectly in terms of the story being told for the evening.

we are all so lucky to have this band in our lives it\'s not even funny. what we have going is one of the most indescribable vibes and i literally pray that the family continues to grow and prosper. i met so many new heady folk last night, some of whom had never seen the band but loved the scene and said it was so warm and inviting. obviously i couldn\'t agree more, and i\'m hope word spreads that the bfam not only knows how to party, but does so in a way that everyone can feel as though they\'re part of the ride, ya know?

i loved the high, open ceilings at the venue and the sound was great to my ears. sounded very full, like there was space for the notes to expand to their fullest potential. there were also great beers on tap, which tasted oh soooo good to this brew lover\'s lips.

as for not letting people in, yes, it sucks. i saw one kid get turned away with a ticket in hand begging at the door and trust me, he was NOT drunk. sucks for him and anyone else turned away. HOWEVER, it really did create an allure, like once you got in you were part of a lucky few who were safe inside and were about to share in an indescribable experience.

party bus for life. spaceman is a genius. throw those fireballs of energy all night long, baby, merry pranksters styleee!!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: roach2226 on June 01, 2009, 10:49:05 pm
i drove a couple budies to the show, had about three beers before i got to the venue while my friends got fairy drunk. the jack ass at the door looks at the two of them then at me and tells me they can go in but i cant. I could have passed a breathalizer and caused no scene whatsoever. good think i bought my tix ahead of time. harpersfery can burn to the ground.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Bret on June 01, 2009, 11:40:13 pm
I never thought I\'d meet a venue staff worse than the Webster... never say never!  It would\'ve been a perfect show if I didn\'t know people who DESPERATELY wanted to see the show were left outside, that\'s just fucked up... it shouldn\'t happen.  Gavin was good to go and I fail to see the reason he was kicked out.  In fact I saw a few people turned away while we were in a line that wasn\'t moving as we faintly heard Tribal through the door.  Funny thing is, it wasn\'t even close to packed inside.  The music was SICK!!  The boys were definitely there to play!  The meatheads at the door on the other hand gotta go!

Oh yeah, the bus trip was great, went off without a hitch as far as I know!  Never would\'ve been able to pull that night off if I was driving... in fact I\'d probably be in a cell somewhere!  BIG THANKS to Spacey for pulling that together, sweet ride!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: FrankZappa on June 01, 2009, 11:55:51 pm
when I was in line I saw some guy from upstate being told he was drunk and would not be allowed in. He seemed pretty sober and at least congnative. His group had not gone to phish, they drove from ny for breakfast and the guy at the door was being a total dick, "I don\'t care, you\'re not getting in!" I think he said he already had a ticket too. Then another guy behind me in line stood up for him and said "that guy is obviously not drunk, I don\'t see what the problem is here" and the bouncer turned and pointed at him and said "I don\'t have to let you in either, so watch it!" Talk about a power trip. It was pretty sad.

Then, even worse, there was some guy PASSED OUT at the back bar that wasn\'t open, stage left. I walked buy several times over the course of an hour and security had no problem with that guy while they were busting on people in line for being drunk? I saw this guys friend prop him back up into a stool after he faceplanted off of it, and that is ok, but someone who drives across state just to see the band is "obviously drunk and not getting in?"

mia lost her phone last night taboot. such a great night to have this bs piled on top of it.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 01, 2009, 11:58:45 pm
Quote from: galenas;232283

as for not letting people in, yes, it sucks. i saw one kid get turned away with a ticket in hand begging at the door and trust me, he was NOT drunk. sucks for him and anyone else turned away.

Than how could he be turned away?  Any other conceivable reasons?  I\'d get the fuckin\' cops or an army on my side if I paid $15 for a ticket, was not drunk and was not unruly or disrespectful.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: FrankZappa on June 02, 2009, 12:05:41 am
that\'s the guy I saw. door man said he was drunk, and he was not letting anyone who was drunk in.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: peaches626 on June 02, 2009, 12:33:25 am
Quote from: roach2226;232289
i drove a couple budies to the show, had about three beers before i got to the venue while my friends got fairy drunk. the jack ass at the door looks at the two of them then at me and tells me they can go in but i cant. I could have passed a breathalizer and caused no scene whatsoever. good think i bought my tix ahead of time. harpersfery can burn to the ground.


Roach, I saw this happen to you, and it broke my heart... I said something to the dude, and i got the same "i don\'t have to let you in either" line...


Honestly, roach\'s conversation went like this-

Door Man 1: You been drinkin?
Roach: Ya, I had a couple beers earlier...
Door Man 1: Where you been tonight?
Roach: What?
Door Man 1: What you don\'t know where you\'ve been tonight?
Roach: No we were around fenway, we went to Boston Beer Works cuz we never got into the concert....
Door Man 2: He\'s probably been drinkin all night.
Door Man 1: I\'m gonna have to ask you step out of line.


I couldn\'t believe what was happening




But outside of doorman shenanigans, this show was great

Thank god i got right off the bus and was one of the first people in line, and got to actually see the whole show...  Very high quality playing- doozer was droppin huge bombs!!  Seriously every time adrian and doozer break shit down and get dark and dirty I poop something happy into my pants... Highlight for me was definitely queeb- that song honestly seems to get better every time i see it.  the whole show was a pretty ser dance party- crowd was strong and gettin down- incredible considering we had already been through one 4 hr show that night




Huge props to the Spaceman for settin up and  holdin down the party bus scene.  It was so incredibly worth every penny.  This night was one of the top musical events of my entire life.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: mvallo on June 02, 2009, 12:43:37 am
I few years back I had a friend that had a different, but similar situation with a bouncer.  A group of my friends went to a bar and one of the guys had an out of state license. The bouncer said "its fake, get out of there or we will call the cops." since it was real, we said go ahead.  The cops came and looked at it and told the bouncer its real.  The venue said, you still can\'t come in.  The cop ask my friend if he wanted to press civil charges.  At that point it was not worth the hassle and we all left.
    I wonder what would happen if the rejected people at harpers took that approach. would the venue change their minds?  They probably don\'t want the cops there either.   but then again is it worth creating all that attention with the cops, probably not.  The bar does have the right refuse a patron is they believe they are intoxicated, but what if they\'re not?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 02, 2009, 02:12:43 am
I\'m reading the reviews posted by Yelpers online - last night\'s b.s. was business as usual.  Here are a couple:

Quote from: Yelp.com;232302
One Sunday afternoon, I decided to go for a walk with my girlfriend. This walk turned into a \'lets go for lunch at the Sunset Grill\' type of thing. So we did. Had a few beers some good food and then decided to go have a drink at Harpers Ferry.

We go into Harpers Ferry and are greeted by two bouncers at the front door. They look at our ID\'s and then tell us that there is a $12 cover. We pay reluctantly and I am thinking that this is a sort of a rip off.

I go to the bar, order two drinks for my and herself, then I go to the bathroom.

When I come back I notice a bouncer talking to my G/F. He told her that I was knocking over stools and was too drunk, and in fact knocked over the same stool 4 times. WTF?! I know right. I wasn\'t even near a stool. So I come back, and I\'m informed that because I knocked over a stool 4 times, I have to leave. Of course, I\'m old enough to know that when a bouncer tells you that you have to leave, all the talking back or arguing in the world won\'t change that fact.

I did question him on exactly what stool I knocked over, where was it and how did I manage to do that since I was nowhere near a stool. I was just shocked by this lie he was telling. Yes we had drinks before going here but in all fairness, we weren\'t falling over drunk like he was saying.

What made me more mad was the fact that when we showed our ID\'s, paid a total of $24 to get in and chatted with the bouncers, they were perfectly acceptable of us. We also met one of our friends who works at the Ferry just as we went in. She was as shocked as we were that we were being asked to leave. She told us later that the bouncer in question is generally "ridiculous." I\'m not sure what she meant by that really. It\'s open to interpretation.

So, I come back from the toilet, our 2 drinks are on the bar (I\'d already paid for them before I went to the bathroom) and we get asked to leave.
In about 5 minutes we paid $24 cover, and $14 or so for the drinks.

In summary my trip to Harpers Ferry:
I paid $38 within 5 minutes, got asked to leave for knocking over a stool (4 times) that didn\'t even exist, and asked for a refund and got told \'no.\' I hadn\'t even taken my coat off as it was chilly in there.

What could I do. I don\'t like to cause trouble or anything so we just left, went to another bar-O\'Leary\'s in Brookline. There we explained our story and the bartender gave us a drink on the house!

1 star but it should be zero.

The place stank anyway.

Quote from: Yelp.com;232302
The bouncers here are idiots.  While they were throwing me and my friend out they made a derogatory comment about homosexuals.  After they threw us out my friend saw them give eachother high fives.  Ridiculous.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ChrisF on June 02, 2009, 03:37:02 am
it would take a lot to knock over the stools at harpers ferry. i used a couple of them to guard the taper section. they are metal and so heavy that they are tip over proof. if one got knocked over and hit the ground everyone in the place would know about it
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 02, 2009, 07:51:52 am
Quote from: galenas;232283
merry pranksters styleee!!


...tell me there were merry pranksters jokes going around. That\'s all i thought of from the momenet the bus was announced.

i was waiting for someone to come out in all day-glo stripes.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: psychjosh on June 02, 2009, 07:53:22 am
Quote from: Vassillios;232261
Quote from: thatguy;232257
todd told me that gavin put himself in that possition cutting the line and arguing with the bouncer to no end until the guy just said get out of here....just saying.ok so we get a good turnout here...awesome,oh wait lets talkshit about the venue so no one shows up next time...sweet


good to hear that the place was almost packed. hopefully a lot of noobs will be turned onto you guys now... by the looks of that setlist how could they not!


Gavin really didn\'t do anything.. They were asking people in line where they cam from and if you said fenway... they turned down like a dozen people that I saw at lease.. I UFCKING HATE HARPERS FERRY!

That being sais.. BOYS RAGED IT! definitely a couple of hundj in the place.

PEACHES, ZUKE, BOOMERS, TUNA and all... great to have finally "officially" met everyone! Had a GREAT time!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: pizzaburrito on June 02, 2009, 09:15:53 am
party bus = epic! im so excited to have been a part of that and had a raging time, thank you so much!  and the best part.... stan the man is safely back home in gavins arms now :P
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 02, 2009, 09:21:51 am
Quote from: galenas;232283
we are all so lucky to have this band in our lives it\'s not even funny. what we have going is one of the most indescribable vibes and i literally pray that the family continues to grow and prosper. i met so many new heady folk last night, some of whom had never seen the band but loved the scene and said it was so warm and inviting. obviously i couldn\'t agree more, and i\'m hope word spreads that the bfam not only knows how to party, but does so in a way that everyone can feel as though they\'re part of the ride, ya know?

party bus for life. spaceman is a genius. throw those fireballs of energy all night long, baby, merry pranksters styleee!!

Cheers to that! :)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: oldnewbie on June 02, 2009, 10:08:32 am
i hate boston.(i used to like it but the place just sucks)
i hate fenway. (most uncomfortable place/overated baseball venue ever)
i hate boston music venues. (every single one)
i hate boston bouncers. (i dont need to justify this one)
going to boston?........no thanks!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: stublatt on June 02, 2009, 10:23:48 am
Quote from: oldnewbie;232324
i hate boston.(i used to like it but the place just sucks)
i hate fenway. (most uncomfortable place/overated baseball venue ever)
i hate boston music venues. (every single one)
i hate boston bouncers. (i dont need to justify this one)
going to boston?........no thanks!


typical reaction from a guy who suddenly became a Yankee fan in the 70\'s!  And while we\'re at it - nice job selling out the $1.5B new stadium.  No excuse - pathetic!  10 million peeps in the tri-state area.  How do you average about 10,000 less than capacity in your inaugural season in the new \'cathedral\'???  I planned on taking the family down to a game later this month, but the 2nd mortgage fell thru!
Fenway sux!!!
XOXOXO
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: oldnewbie on June 02, 2009, 11:59:25 am
a. i\'m a royals fan....so for those of you who remember the 70\'s...nuff said.

2. i\'m a yankee season ticket holder cause i don\'t live in kc and i love american league baseball. it\'s the most affordable way to do it and see the best games. it also gives me great playoff options (when they get there).

D. why did this become about yankee stadium?

IV. FACT= boston music venues just plain suck. i have to seriously want to go to something to bother going there anymore and i would have gone to this if i was available....but i\'m glad i didn\'t, despite what others are saying about their great time....because....everytime i go to boston for music, i see shit like this and it annoys the crap out of me. i wasn\'t even there and i  felt the need to chime in. i like the north end, chinatown is kinda cool. the traffic is abysmal and the meatheads are abundant. plus it\'s full of red sox fans. (all present company excluded of course)  ;)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 02, 2009, 12:04:18 pm
Quote from: oldnewbie;232349
a. i\'m a royals fan....so for those of you who remember the 70\'s...nuff said.

2. i\'m a yankee season ticket holder cause i don\'t live in kc and i love american league baseball. it\'s the most affordable way to do it and see the best games. it also gives me great playoff options (when they get there).

D. why did this become about yankee stadium?

IV. FACT= boston music venues just plain suck. i have to seriously want to go to something to bother going there anymore and i would have gone to this if i was available....but i\'m glad i didn\'t, despite what others are saying about their great time....because....everytime i go to boston for music, i see shit like this and it annoys the crap out of me. i wasn\'t even there and i  felt the need to chime in. i like the north end, chinatown is kinda cool. the traffic is abysmal and the meatheads are abundant. plus it\'s full of red sox fans. (all present company excluded of course)  ;)


I haven\'t been to a venue in Boston so I can\'t give my own personal opinion, but coming from friends I have heard that the new House of Blues is a decent venue. I\'m sure there are some Bostonians on here that can confirm this... wolfman perhaps?

Or maybe it sucks and my friends who live in Boston don\'t know shit about music. Either way I\'m still trying to move there so there better be at least one good venue.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: oldnewbie on June 02, 2009, 12:06:05 pm
actually....the moe.rons i know had a lot of nice things to say about the hob as well. i think they might be typing my name on the banned list right now. ;)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Igziabeher on June 02, 2009, 12:06:13 pm
the House of Blues is the only venue worth goin\' to in boston these days.  the security there is tolerable, but the drink prices are unreal.  i was getting 11 dollar drinks at moe. a couple months ago.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 02, 2009, 12:43:38 pm
The lack of a serious, good, vigorous music scene in boston has always been puzzling to me.

It has plenty of colleges, including Berkley School of Music, any number of "chill" neighborhoods where musicians can get anyway with their bohemian lifestyle, and, though it isn\'t obivous, a relatively wide range of cultures represented.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: estahwhaddup on June 02, 2009, 01:09:21 pm
rookie move on my part for showing up late, but it was awesome seeing everyone!  i had a blast and the band sounded great! wish i had more time to catch up with everyone.  sucks for all the people who got denied, but i guess things don\'t change at harper\'s.  thank you gabe for letting us crash at the old pad.  until next time my friends...
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Ren on June 02, 2009, 01:43:01 pm
...it\'s cuz fa the most paht the people in and around bawstin, not baaaaahhstin, ah fuckin\' ratahded.  

i witnessed the bullshit with that poor roach kid and it made me sick.  when ally and her sister said something, he was like if your with them you can get out of line too?  really!?!  who the fuck did that fag who turned him away think he was with that fuckin\' head set on, who the fuck was he gonna talk to?!?!?

jesus christ, what a lame couple of dudes?

fuckin\' awesome show though...

very well formed, high energy, seemingly orchestrated jam to open things up, dropping perfectly into a tremendously hard hitting tribal, fuckin\' smokin!!!  synergy was all over the place, and it was fuckin\' awesome.  i could hear taboot starting and jen said something, like are we supposed to go home after this?  i can\'t remember the last time i heard it NOT end a show.  too bad only peaches and zuke jumped at the end, can\'t win \'em all i guess. ha.  

buquebus and metropolis could\'ve been all they played and that would\'ve been enough.  i don\'t know which was better, it didn\'t matter.  buquebus was unreal, and everyone loved it.  so was metropolis, which one of those had the buried alive tease in it?  or was it neither?  

whatever, the show was great!!! i had a great time, we stopped at a mcdonald\'s on the way to power nap for 20 mins and get a coffee, which did nothing.  got home just in time to start hitting the begining of the morning rush hour traffic.  whew, what i night, i kept thinking all day yesterday that it was today.  you know what i mean.  you do.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 02, 2009, 02:15:33 pm
^^
LOL... dude I just realized I like only half recognized you without your hat. I was like I know this guy but my mind was like a razer\'s edge in some ways and not quite in other ways. My bad !
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: stublatt on June 02, 2009, 02:29:49 pm
Quote from: oldnewbie;232349


D. why did this become about yankee stadium?



.....only cuz u dissed Fenway, cuz
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Me! on June 02, 2009, 07:02:01 pm
Really bummed to hear all this bad shit, I had no idea.  Saw Mia outside, but didn\'t realize it was so rampant.  Sorry everybody.

Other than that great night great show, can\'t wait form my next one.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: roach2226 on June 02, 2009, 09:03:18 pm
i think me and mia were the "brownest" people in line. dam racists run the place lol
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Igziabeher on June 02, 2009, 09:53:29 pm
Quote from: roach2226;232420
i think me and mia were the "brownest" people in line. dam racists run the place lol


i dunno, i\'m pretty brown and  they had no issues w/ me.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 02, 2009, 10:54:59 pm
so for us losers, was this taped?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Me! on June 02, 2009, 11:06:47 pm
Chris Fitz was in attendance.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: peaches626 on June 03, 2009, 08:34:34 am
multiple tapers... with krazyken video i believe....
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ds673488 on June 03, 2009, 10:20:58 am
this is up for B.T.S.E.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Klout on June 03, 2009, 03:17:40 pm
nannies
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Gfunk on June 03, 2009, 08:37:09 pm
i still cant believe that peeps who actually bought tix ahead of time were turned away for absolutely no reason. that is straight fucked up.

I also cannot believe the jams that took place that night. so pwnt. :wah:
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 03, 2009, 09:20:19 pm
So how was that Mike Gordon sit-in?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Wolfman on June 03, 2009, 09:25:56 pm
Buried Alive tease in Metropolis
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Me! on June 03, 2009, 09:44:54 pm
Who\'s got my heady download?????
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: galenas on June 03, 2009, 10:10:31 pm
Quote from: Me!;232597
Who\'s got my heady download?????


:that:
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Wolfman on June 03, 2009, 10:29:41 pm
Quote from: thatguy;232257
ok so we get a good turnout here...awesome,oh wait lets talkshit about the venue so no one shows up next time...sweet


I totally understand your frustration Ad.  It\'s gotta suck when you do everything right to book a well-timed show and you perform well too, but then the venue staff goes and screws it all up for you.  However, it is not reasonable to expect fans to not speak openly about their experiences at shows.  If a whole bunch of people have a similar bad experience at a show, they\'re going to get on the internet and shout it out.  You can\'t possibly expect everyone to keep quiet for the good of future booking, especially when they feel like they were wronged.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Spacey on June 04, 2009, 07:52:13 am
It is pretty simple.

If the fans hate the venue, they will not go. If they do not go, there will be no show.

The band needs to communicate this to the venue. If the venue gives you a hard time, you go on to the next venue.

Find a venue that you like to work with and that likes to work with you and really develop that relationship.

No sense in playing Harper\'s Ferry if they are going to curb the attendance of the show with a power trip attitude.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 04, 2009, 08:05:22 am
Quote from: alexanderzurflu;232590
So how was that Mike Gordon sit-in?


he got denied too
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: psychjosh on June 04, 2009, 08:11:10 am
Quote from: ds673488;232393
not to rub it in anyones face, but I was absolutely hammered when I got to Harper\'s Ferry, I budged the line right in front of the bouncers, and I was wearing a bright orange t-shirt that said "Los Angeles County Jail" and the bouncers didnt give me one problem getting in :duck:

From the sounds of it, it seems like the more tame you acted, the better chance you had of getting shit from them at the door.  If they ever play there again, everyone should drink a 750ml of whisky beforehand and act line buffoons in line, then maybe we\'ll all get in.

I did see them treat people like absolute shit, and it was seemingly random too.  Maybe I just wasnt one of the unlucky ones who happened to be in front of them when they decided to trip on power.

Totally random with exception of a couple who were clearly and overtly spun to the end... I guess the liability if they let em in and they die on the way home if pretty serious. Beleive it or not They ALMOST didn\'t let me in.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: wildcoyote on June 04, 2009, 09:01:13 am
Quote from: psychjosh;232618
Quote from: ds673488;232393
not to rub it in anyones face, but I was absolutely hammered when I got to Harper\'s Ferry, I budged the line right in front of the bouncers, and I was wearing a bright orange t-shirt that said "Los Angeles County Jail" and the bouncers didnt give me one problem getting in :duck:

From the sounds of it, it seems like the more tame you acted, the better chance you had of getting shit from them at the door.  If they ever play there again, everyone should drink a 750ml of whisky beforehand and act line buffoons in line, then maybe we\'ll all get in.

I did see them treat people like absolute shit, and it was seemingly random too.  Maybe I just wasnt one of the unlucky ones who happened to be in front of them when they decided to trip on power.


Totally random with exception of a couple who were clearly and overtly spun to the end... I guess the liability if they let em in and they die on the way home if pretty serious. Beleive it or not They ALMOST didn\'t let me in.


This is what it\'s all about right here. Lawsuits make the world go round. As usual, I\'m speaking from the venue perspective, but every single venue policy that makes you bang your head against the wall in frustration was implemented because some jackass sued the club over an injury caused by their own flaming stupidity. Toad\'s gets sued all the time.  They happen to have a great a lawyer, but to expand upon Josh\'s point: In theory I could slam 10 shots at one bar, walk across the street to another bar and order a drink before they\'ve really hit me. If I get in the car after an crash I can sue the 2nd bar for serving me while intoxicated.  I probably won\'t win, but some small places can\'t afford to go to court, so they settle for a (relatively) small sum. Toad\'s happens to see defending these suits as cost of doing business, but for a smaller bar they can be crippling.

The best way to fix this would be to have the booking agent provide a list of these policies to fan sites such as this one, so people are at least aware of the rules before they go.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Klout on June 04, 2009, 12:02:23 pm
Quote from: wildcoyote;232621
Quote from: psychjosh;232618
Quote from: ds673488;232393
not to rub it in anyones face, but I was absolutely hammered when I got to Harper\'s Ferry, I budged the line right in front of the bouncers, and I was wearing a bright orange t-shirt that said "Los Angeles County Jail" and the bouncers didnt give me one problem getting in :duck:

From the sounds of it, it seems like the more tame you acted, the better chance you had of getting shit from them at the door.  If they ever play there again, everyone should drink a 750ml of whisky beforehand and act line buffoons in line, then maybe we\'ll all get in.

I did see them treat people like absolute shit, and it was seemingly random too.  Maybe I just wasnt one of the unlucky ones who happened to be in front of them when they decided to trip on power.

Totally random with exception of a couple who were clearly and overtly spun to the end... I guess the liability if they let em in and they die on the way home if pretty serious. Beleive it or not They ALMOST didn\'t let me in.

This is what it\'s all about right here. Lawsuits make the world go round. As usual, I\'m speaking from the venue perspective, but every single venue policy that makes you bang your head against the wall in frustration was implemented because some jackass sued the club over an injury caused by their own flaming stupidity. Toad\'s gets sued all the time.  They happen to have a great a lawyer, but to expand upon Josh\'s point: In theory I could slam 10 shots at one bar, walk across the street to another bar and order a drink before they\'ve really hit me. If I get in the car after an crash I can sue the 2nd bar for serving me while intoxicated.  I probably won\'t win, but some small places can\'t afford to go to court, so they settle for a (relatively) small sum. Toad\'s happens to see defending these suits as cost of doing business, but for a smaller bar they can be crippling.

The best way to fix this would be to have the booking agent provide a list of these policies to fan sites such as this one, so people are at least aware of the rules before they go.

Does anyone ever win those lawsuits?  Seems pretty ridiculous that liability could fall on a bar for serving someone who makes the choice to get drunk and the choice to get behind the wheel.  How is that the bars fault in anyway whatsoever regardless of whether the person has had one or ten drinks?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Spacey on June 04, 2009, 12:07:53 pm
Quote from: Klout;232633
Quote from: wildcoyote;232621
Quote from: psychjosh;232618
Quote from: ds673488;232393
not to rub it in anyones face, but I was absolutely hammered when I got to Harper\'s Ferry, I budged the line right in front of the bouncers, and I was wearing a bright orange t-shirt that said "Los Angeles County Jail" and the bouncers didnt give me one problem getting in :duck:

From the sounds of it, it seems like the more tame you acted, the better chance you had of getting shit from them at the door.  If they ever play there again, everyone should drink a 750ml of whisky beforehand and act line buffoons in line, then maybe we\'ll all get in.

I did see them treat people like absolute shit, and it was seemingly random too.  Maybe I just wasnt one of the unlucky ones who happened to be in front of them when they decided to trip on power.

Totally random with exception of a couple who were clearly and overtly spun to the end... I guess the liability if they let em in and they die on the way home if pretty serious. Beleive it or not They ALMOST didn\'t let me in.

This is what it\'s all about right here. Lawsuits make the world go round. As usual, I\'m speaking from the venue perspective, but every single venue policy that makes you bang your head against the wall in frustration was implemented because some jackass sued the club over an injury caused by their own flaming stupidity. Toad\'s gets sued all the time.  They happen to have a great a lawyer, but to expand upon Josh\'s point: In theory I could slam 10 shots at one bar, walk across the street to another bar and order a drink before they\'ve really hit me. If I get in the car after an crash I can sue the 2nd bar for serving me while intoxicated.  I probably won\'t win, but some small places can\'t afford to go to court, so they settle for a (relatively) small sum. Toad\'s happens to see defending these suits as cost of doing business, but for a smaller bar they can be crippling.

The best way to fix this would be to have the booking agent provide a list of these policies to fan sites such as this one, so people are at least aware of the rules before they go.

Does anyone ever win those lawsuits?  Seems pretty ridiculous that liability could fall on a bar for serving someone who makes the choice to get drunk and the choice to get behind the wheel.  How is that the bars fault in anyway whatsoever regardless of whether the person has had one or ten drinks?

It does.

If the bar serves a knowingly or seemingly drunk person, they are liable. That is where Liquor Liability comes into play.

Winning a lawsuit is really not important as much as the possibility of a law suit. Which just having to get your lawyer involved can cost a lot of time and money.

It is prudent for bars, clubs and liquor stores to take that responsibility. Removing all the potential risks.

It is there business. They can run it like they want.

America is in love with law suits ever since that dumb bitch spilt coffee on herself.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: weekapaug19 on June 04, 2009, 12:16:00 pm
Quote from: Spacey;232636
Quote from: Klout;232633
Quote from: wildcoyote;232621
Quote from: psychjosh;232618
Quote from: ds673488;232393
not to rub it in anyones face, but I was absolutely hammered when I got to Harper\'s Ferry, I budged the line right in front of the bouncers, and I was wearing a bright orange t-shirt that said "Los Angeles County Jail" and the bouncers didnt give me one problem getting in :duck:

From the sounds of it, it seems like the more tame you acted, the better chance you had of getting shit from them at the door.  If they ever play there again, everyone should drink a 750ml of whisky beforehand and act line buffoons in line, then maybe we\'ll all get in.

I did see them treat people like absolute shit, and it was seemingly random too.  Maybe I just wasnt one of the unlucky ones who happened to be in front of them when they decided to trip on power.


Totally random with exception of a couple who were clearly and overtly spun to the end... I guess the liability if they let em in and they die on the way home if pretty serious. Beleive it or not They ALMOST didn\'t let me in.


This is what it\'s all about right here. Lawsuits make the world go round. As usual, I\'m speaking from the venue perspective, but every single venue policy that makes you bang your head against the wall in frustration was implemented because some jackass sued the club over an injury caused by their own flaming stupidity. Toad\'s gets sued all the time.  They happen to have a great a lawyer, but to expand upon Josh\'s point: In theory I could slam 10 shots at one bar, walk across the street to another bar and order a drink before they\'ve really hit me. If I get in the car after an crash I can sue the 2nd bar for serving me while intoxicated.  I probably won\'t win, but some small places can\'t afford to go to court, so they settle for a (relatively) small sum. Toad\'s happens to see defending these suits as cost of doing business, but for a smaller bar they can be crippling.

The best way to fix this would be to have the booking agent provide a list of these policies to fan sites such as this one, so people are at least aware of the rules before they go.


Does anyone ever win those lawsuits?  Seems pretty ridiculous that liability could fall on a bar for serving someone who makes the choice to get drunk and the choice to get behind the wheel.  How is that the bars fault in anyway whatsoever regardless of whether the person has had one or ten drinks?


It does.

If the bar serves a knowingly or seemingly drunk person, they are liable. That is where Liquor Liability comes into play.

Winning a lawsuit is really not important as much as the possibility of a law suit. Which just having to get your lawyer involved can cost a lot of time and money.

It is prudent for bars, clubs and liquor stores to take that responsibility. Removing all the potential risks.

It is there business. They can run it like they want.

America is in love with law suits ever since that dumb bitch spilt coffee on herself.



exactly.....when i worked in a liquor store, we wouldn\'t serve people all the time because they were drunk or smelt like booze. It\'s much cheaper to lose one customer than being shut down for 3 days and facing fines is
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 04, 2009, 03:18:50 pm
Last I checked booze and "spun" isn\'t a lethal combo :P
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Bret on June 04, 2009, 03:50:30 pm
As Pesci once said... "There\'s ways to do things, and there\'s ways not to."  If they\'re gonna treat us like pieces of shit & power trip because they\'re trying to make up for their own "little" problems... FUCK \'EM & their ferry!  Doesn\'t matter how good the show or venue is if people aren\'t there to see it & they\'re going home pissed-off after driving a long way & getting denied entry!  It was more the way people were thrown out than the fact that they threw people out.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ChrisF on June 08, 2009, 10:52:00 am
Quote from: galenas;232600
Quote from: Me!;232597
Who\'s got my heady download?????


:that:


dvd is done and the BT should be up within 24hours. i still need kens new camera info so i can post this on the tradersden.

anyone willing to help seed can arrange to pick up a dvd copy at bar on wed.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1314/harpersart1.jpg)

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6926/10469934.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1461/94243577.jpg)
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5835/64383639.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7003/50529891.jpg)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5149/13123740.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4620/72765252.jpg)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 08, 2009, 11:14:59 am
Quote from: ChrisF;232814


(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1314/harpersart1.jpg)


That is sick... Is that a Trey bobblehead driving the party bus??:biggrin:
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: skalnbyc on June 08, 2009, 01:02:29 pm
got any bonus footage: security pricks in action?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Spacey on June 08, 2009, 03:19:25 pm
hahaha. great cover. Loving Sir Trey Bobblehead driving that bus.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: galenas on June 08, 2009, 04:10:41 pm
see that pic of tim on the bottom left there? i think that\'s about when i nearly cried.

sick cover. absolutely love it. u know you\'re in good hands when sir trey is at the wheel.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Spacey on June 08, 2009, 04:13:53 pm
Quote from: galenas;232854
see that pic of tim on the bottom left there? i think that\'s about when i nearly cried.

sick cover. absolutely love it. u know you\'re in good hands when sir trey is at the wheel.


Ain\'t that the truth. STB was in the front of the bus for much of the ride.

Who did this cover?
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Me! on June 08, 2009, 05:17:18 pm
Quote from: ChrisF;232814
Quote from: galenas;232600
Quote from: Me!;232597
Who\'s got my heady download?????


:that:


dvd is done and the BT should be up within 24hours. i still need kens new camera info so i can post this on the tradersden.

anyone willing to help seed can arrange to pick up a dvd copy at bar on wed.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1314/harpersart1.jpg)

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6926/10469934.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1461/94243577.jpg)
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5835/64383639.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7003/50529891.jpg)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5149/13123740.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4620/72765252.jpg)


not that I\'m not totally excited about this......... but what about just audio?  I\'m def interested in the dvd too but, would love an audio download if possible
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ChrisF on June 08, 2009, 06:49:16 pm
Quote from: Spacey;232855


Ain\'t that the truth. STB was in the front of the bus for much of the ride.

Who did this cover?



i made it. but its a spoof of the stetch by d. h. strother of the burning of the us arsenal at harpers ferry during the civil war, originally published in the harper\'s weekly in may 1861. i colorized it and used some paul ryan photos from the night of the show.

(http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/civil-war/1861/may/harpers-ferry_Picture1.jpg)
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Spacey on June 08, 2009, 06:59:41 pm
HA!

That is great.

Terrific job my friend.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 08, 2009, 07:10:02 pm
I\'m pretty excited to watch this again.
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ChrisF on June 08, 2009, 07:46:37 pm
Quote from: Me!;232865

not that I\'m not totally excited about this......... but what about just audio?  I\'m def interested in the dvd too but, would love an audio download if possible


http://www.sendspace.com/file/eeus6i
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: galenas on June 08, 2009, 07:59:25 pm
^ yesss!! thank you!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: frolfer on June 08, 2009, 08:44:25 pm
Sweet! Thanks Chris!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: ChrisF on June 08, 2009, 09:10:00 pm
DVD /MP3 /FLAC download link = http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?p=232891
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: bdfreetuna on June 08, 2009, 09:11:35 pm
Hey Chris, thanks man!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Me! on June 08, 2009, 10:35:45 pm
Thanks Chris! you\'re the man. Can\'t wait to see this again....
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Bret on June 08, 2009, 11:27:00 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;232815
Quote from: ChrisF;232814


(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1314/harpersart1.jpg)


That is sick... Is that a Trey bobblehead driving the party bus??:biggrin:


Trey was in noooo shape to drive, he was stumblin\' all over the bus.  He made the rounds then passed out on the dash for the ride home... at least as far as i know... it was a little bumpy through Boston.  He shouldn\'t have been driving...

P.S. - that\'s some nice artwork... pretty much sums it all up!
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: tyzack on June 30, 2009, 05:36:28 pm
Tim teases something around the 13 minute mark of metropolis....or that\'s a very catch riff I regonize

And Chris teases something during his solo...
Title: Setlist: 2009-05-31 - Harpers Ferry; Allston, MA
Post by: Vassillios on June 30, 2009, 08:15:08 pm
Quote from: tyzack;234953
Tim teases something around the 13 minute mark of metropolis....or that\'s a very catch riff I regonize

And Chris teases something during his solo...


Good call Tyzack - It\'s Buried Alive. How appropriate to play after Phish\'s first show of the tour.

Can\'t put my finger on what Chris was doing tho.