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Breakfast Babble => The Grand Scheme Of Things => Topic started by: Overexjoesure on July 15, 2008, 12:44:01 pm

Title: So..... new album anyone?
Post by: Overexjoesure on July 15, 2008, 12:44:01 pm
Just wondering when the band plans on entering the studio.  I don\'t think I\'ve ever been so impressed with a batch of new songs this much.  It would be nice if we got something by Christmas....
Title: So..... new album anyone?
Post by: Vassillios on July 15, 2008, 01:13:18 pm
yea its been 2 years since moxie... due time for a new record. christmas is a good date to shoot for imo.
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Post by: tyzack on July 15, 2008, 01:18:46 pm
Track List?
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Post by: Overexjoesure on July 15, 2008, 01:37:25 pm
Album should be called "Reel Time" or "Advances in Trances"


1. Episode 3 (Awakening)
2.Tunage
3. World Needs Us
4. The Message
5. Reel Time
6.Synergy
7. Rush
8. The Sound
9. Metropolis
10. Infrequently Asked Questions
11. Eschers Etchings (Pt 3+ 4)
Title: So..... new album anyone?
Post by: tyzack on July 15, 2008, 01:45:14 pm
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196082
Album should be called "Advances in Trances"
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Post by: ChrisF on July 15, 2008, 01:47:40 pm
i definitely dont think it will be happenng any time soon enough to have it out by christmas, but i hope they do all 4 parts of escher\'s. i want to see parts 1 and 2 on a proper studio album.

opening the disc with 1 and 2 and closing with 3 and 4 might be really coool if they pick the right songs for the album and arrange them into a tracklist that works.
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Post by: Vassillios on July 15, 2008, 01:49:48 pm
eppy 1 and 2 have been on previous albums as well... should 3 be on the new one?
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Post by: Lexington on July 15, 2008, 01:50:27 pm
throw eppy 3 on that shit!!!
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Post by: ChrisF on July 15, 2008, 01:55:50 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;196086
eppy 1 and 2 have been on previous albums as well... should 3 be on the new one?

nope, but escher\'s 1+2 on bona fide shouldnt even count at this point. and it definitely shouldn\'t keep it from appearing with 3+4. it was just a live album, and it faded out before the jam.
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Post by: Yoda on July 15, 2008, 01:56:04 pm
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196082
Album should be called "Reel Time" or "Advances in Trances"


1. Tunage
2. World Needs Us
3. The Message
4. Reel Time
5.Synergy
6. Rush
7. The Sound
8. Metropolis
9. Infrequently Asked Questions
10. Eschers Etchings (Pt 3+ 4)


Since my comments piss everyone off already, I\'ll give my opinion on the tracks.  If there are 2 or 3 more originals in the works that haven\'t been played, they should stay that way for a little surprise to the fan.  As for Tunage and EE 3&4, I would leave them off the track listing since they written during a different incarnation of the band; half of the band is new since these song were debut\'d.  I also feel that if you\'re going to record Synergy, you have to strip it\'s jams down like TGSOT was.  If you want to release some of the older songs that are making their way into the rotation, I would suggest a double album; disc 1 - all new tunes / disc 2 - recently unrecorded breakfast favorites or classics.  Personally, I would stick with 1 disc of new tunes.
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Post by: bezerker on July 15, 2008, 02:01:44 pm
where\'s living daylights ?  and i hightly doubt awakening will be on it since they opted not to last album
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Post by: Vassillios on July 15, 2008, 02:03:25 pm
the message is kinda a weak song... i\'d leave that off too
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Post by: Klout on July 15, 2008, 02:15:37 pm
boot the message and switch it out with LD and you got yourself a kick ass album right there, probably the best one to date.

Advances in Trances would be a perfect name too given their new sound. Advanced (in the direction of epicness)trance pretty much hits the nail on the head.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on July 15, 2008, 02:25:37 pm
living daylights sounds like a real shitty 311 outtake.  Can\'t believe you would switch that with The Message.  


Eppy 3 would be a great way to kick off the album actually.  


We only get 80 mins on a disc.  Why waste it with something that\'s already on disc?
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Post by: jocelyn on July 15, 2008, 02:27:50 pm
Quote from: Yoda;196090
As for Tunage and EE 3&4, I would leave them off the track listing since they written during a different incarnation of the band; half of the band is new since these song were debut\'d.


I don\'t know... They are just too good to leave off the album...
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Post by: Lexington on July 15, 2008, 02:40:38 pm
i guess a studio awakening wouldn\'t be as epic. well, when they bust it out acoustic at DAniel ST, they should throw that version on the live acoustic double album

the message needs to be on the album. if that makes me gay, just call me elton john
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Post by: Klout on July 15, 2008, 02:42:53 pm
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196098
living daylights sounds like a real shitty 311 outtake.Can\'t believe you would switch that with The Message.  


and the message sounds like a flamingly homsexual version of a children\'s song from sesame street or lamb chops...."come along with me...and we can act real queer... a place you want to be....because its fruity and gay.....la la la laaaaa la la....lah la la laaaa tee dah"  :vomit:

most unbreaksty song ever and huge buzzkill in any set. seen it clear the floor several times. wouldn\'t be good on album either. it really has no place among tunes as ser tunage, ep 3, synergy etc.


LD on the hand iis a grimey badass throat kicker

it\'s an obvious upgrade over the message to anyone with ears
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Post by: bdfreetuna on July 15, 2008, 02:44:03 pm
Agreed. The Message will sound great in the studio.

Assuming they don\'t use the same studio as they did for Real Radio and Moxie Epoxy...
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Post by: Yoda on July 15, 2008, 02:47:35 pm
The name may be the same, but it was a different band when these songs were written.  I guess, I\'m on the outside looking in on this debate, but if they recorded songs that were not written by this band, it\'s just as bad as Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley adding a new guitarist and drummer and slapping Ace and Pete\'s makeup on them.  Don\'t get me wrong, I personally think that this is the best they\'ve sounded in a long time, but let\'s not make it out as this is the "same" band as it\'s always been.
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Post by: Vassillios on July 15, 2008, 02:47:51 pm
I\'m gonna jump on the Living Daylights bandwagon here...

the message is crap-pop
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Post by: Jim Cobb on July 15, 2008, 03:06:43 pm
The Breakfast EP

1. Synergy
2. The World Needs Us >
3. Reel Time
4. Metropolis
5. Rush
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Post by: tyzack on July 15, 2008, 03:21:58 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;196111
The Breakfast EP

1. Synergy
2. The World Needs Us >
3. Reel Time
4. Metropolis
5. Rush


I would buy a breakfast vynal.

Also, as for The Message vs. Living Daylights.

I was introduced to living daylights by the line (something like) "Now for something dark."

Maybe I listen to enough "really" dark stuff, but it sounds like a cheesey version of your protypical nue-metal shit.

No, offense. But if you do "metal" it needs to be done right.

I\'ve never really listened to 311, so I can\'t comment there.

I like the choruous and the music of The Message, I don\'t much like the "rap" style of the vocals.

However, of the two, I\'ll take The Message because it doesn\'t make me cringe.
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Post by: booztravlr on July 15, 2008, 03:52:16 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;196111
The Breakfast EP

1. Synergy
2. The World Needs Us >
3. Reel Time
4. Metropolis
5. Rush


Looks badass to me. A smaller song selection would allow them to add more meat to the jams of each song.
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Post by: Lexington on July 15, 2008, 04:01:50 pm
IAQ needs to be on the next release.

i like living daylights. throat kicker fo sho
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Post by: Jim Cobb on July 15, 2008, 04:56:35 pm
the reasoning behind doin an EP at this point is so that they can use a limited budget to REALLY do a fantastic job at putting 5 or so songs down on tape.  (as opposed to rushing around, stretching the budget thin to use every last second of space on the disc, but not really spending QUITE enough time on any of them to really make it something special)  if that EP does well and someone is thinking of giving them a better budget to do a full length, well what do you know, they\'ve got a whole slew of new material already written!
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Post by: Mark on July 15, 2008, 04:58:43 pm
The Chase
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Post by: Vassillios on July 15, 2008, 05:04:26 pm
Quote from: Mark;196139
The Chase


THANK YOU. YES.
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Post by: krispy on July 15, 2008, 05:09:27 pm
one word: vinyl

I will buy any BFast released on vinyl

ok three words:

180 gram vinyl
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Post by: kindm's on July 15, 2008, 07:20:00 pm
Quote from: Yoda;196107
The name may be the same, but it was a different band when these songs were written.  I guess, I\'m on the outside looking in on this debate, but if they recorded songs that were not written by this band, it\'s just as bad as Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley adding a new guitarist and drummer and slapping Ace and Pete\'s makeup on them.  Don\'t get me wrong, I personally think that this is the best they\'ve sounded in a long time, but let\'s not make it out as this is the "same" band as it\'s always been.


WOW. We actually agree on something.

This is the reason I thought they should have dropped being the Breakfast. They could have used the new members to drop all the preconceived notions that folks had about PB > The Breakfast and started fresh.

Could still play the old favorites but cease being The Breakfast and all the baggage that goes with it
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Post by: ChrisF on July 15, 2008, 07:41:50 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s;196160

This is the reason I thought they should have dropped being the Breakfast. They could have used the new members to drop all the preconceived notions that folks had about PB > The Breakfast and started fresh.

yeah because that worked great when they changed their name the first time.

the only thing a name change would have done after chris joined is take them off the radar and then kill attendance which would then kill the band
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Post by: freddiewaht on July 15, 2008, 07:43:11 pm
Quote from: kindm\'s;196160
Quote from: Yoda;196107
The name may be the same, but it was a different band when these songs were written.  I guess, I\'m on the outside looking in on this debate, but if they recorded songs that were not written by this band, it\'s just as bad as Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley adding a new guitarist and drummer and slapping Ace and Pete\'s makeup on them.  Don\'t get me wrong, I personally think that this is the best they\'ve sounded in a long time, but let\'s not make it out as this is the "same" band as it\'s always been.


WOW. We actually agree on something.

This is the reason I thought they should have dropped being the Breakfast. They could have used the new members to drop all the preconceived notions that folks had about PB > The Breakfast and started fresh.

Could still play the old favorites but cease being The Breakfast and all the baggage that goes with it


i now,after hearing alot of the new tunes,completely agree...
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Post by: siflandollie on July 15, 2008, 08:47:06 pm
EP is a good idea.  Quality over quantity.  Acoustic Live Breakfast double album is also a great idea.
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Post by: Yoda on July 15, 2008, 10:27:58 pm
I think that the time to change names has already passed.  They\'ve been touring with the new line up under that name so it must stick.  But if/when they go into the studio, they need to record tunes that "this band" created; not ones that were created during another incarnation of the band and now honed with these members.
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Post by: Klout on July 15, 2008, 10:40:18 pm
considering 90 or 95% of the songs they play at every single gig were written before matt and dman joined I dont know why your so hung up on a studio album being all new tunes. but then again.....your yoda....
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Post by: thatguy on July 15, 2008, 11:01:54 pm
more new tunes coming soon..i think.....
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Post by: ChrisF on July 15, 2008, 11:27:32 pm
put sundance on the new album!!! :duck:
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Post by: Lexington on July 16, 2008, 12:38:41 am
changing the band name again might be the worst idea i have ever heard. nope, definitely the worst idea i have ever heard.

that said, i love you all
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Post by: FrankZappa on July 16, 2008, 01:04:34 am
worst than...


you know, I don\'t have anything. Horrible idea. They\'ve spent way too much time building legwork nationwide to throw it all away and try to start over. now playing eschers 3/4 more often, *anice idea*
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Post by: Overexjoesure on July 16, 2008, 01:35:40 am
EP\'s are a waste. Too short, too much money, just a sad idea altogether. Nothing stands in the way of them making an 80 minute album with decent production, BUT themselves.  Make the financial investment and wow people with an 80 minute epic masterpiece and be done with it.  

To say that the new album should exclude Tunage, Ep 3 and eschers 3+4 is ludicrous.  Tunage is such a fun and powerful tune.  A studio version would fit nicely on XM radio.  I\'m sick of only having live versions of it on my Ipod!! While I wasn\'t a fan of Ep3 at first because of the anti-climatic blues ending, I think the band should stay consistent with releasing each episode on a studio album.  And with Eschers, the band is playing it more with Chris and Matt, than they did with Ron.    

All they need to do is find a half decent producer who knows how to run a mixing board and they\'re golden.
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Post by: Yoda on July 16, 2008, 09:17:46 am
Quote from: Klout;196188
considering 90 or 95% of the songs they play at every single gig were written before matt and dman joined I dont know why your so hung up on a studio album being all new tunes. but then again.....your yoda....


I get it, I\'m Yoda, I\'m an ass and I make stupid comments - given.  They play 90-95% (I think that % is way too high, more like 60%-70%) of older songs because there aren\'t enough new tunes to do a whole show.  I am not a hater of the older tunes...in fact, I prefer to hear them because it reminds me of the time I spend following them from 99-02.  That being said, and I will repeat myself...this is a new band, why dwell on older songs.  I know it\'s the norm to go to the back catalogue for a song or two when recording, but most of the bands that I\'m familiar with will rarely record a song that\'s been played on tour in the past; most of the time, they go into the studio and create NEW music that people haven\'t heard.  Whenever they release the next album, I\'ll eventually buy it, but if it\'s new songs that I haven\'t heard, then I\'ll be quicker to buy, otherwise, I can just listen to one of the songs on archive.org if I want to hear an older song.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 16, 2008, 09:35:02 am
Quote from: Klout;196104
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196098
living daylights sounds like a real shitty 311 outtake.Can\'t believe you would switch that with The Message.  



and the message sounds like a flamingly homsexual version of a children\'s song from sesame street or lamb chops...."come along with me...and we can act real queer... a place you want to be....because its fruity and gay.....la la la laaaaa la la....lah la la laaaa tee dah"  :vomit:

most unbreaksty song ever and huge buzzkill in any set. seen it clear the floor several times. wouldn\'t be good on album either. it really has no place among tunes as ser tunage, ep 3, synergy etc.


LD on the hand iis a grimey badass throat kicker

it\'s an obvious upgrade over the message to anyone with ears

passive aggressive gay bashing = the best way to be taken seriously and get your point across

Also, in my opinion, a long instrumental (well, 90% of the way through) like Episode 3 isn\'t the best way to start an album. Gotta hook the newbs with track one, or they\'re never going to listen to track two.
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Post by: krispy on July 16, 2008, 09:58:11 am
did I mention vinyl before?
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Post by: kindm's on July 16, 2008, 10:01:00 am
Quote from: Lexington;196196
changing the band name again might be the worst idea i have ever heard. nope, definitely the worst idea i have ever heard.

that said, i love you all


Quote from: FrankZappa;196197
worst than...


you know, I don\'t have anything. Horrible idea. They\'ve spent way too much time building legwork nationwide to throw it all away and try to start over. now playing eschers 3/4 more often, *anice idea*


You guys didn\'t read my post.

I said they SHOULD have meaning past tense. It is too late to do it now.
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Post by: Vassillios on July 16, 2008, 10:21:59 am
Quote from: thatguy;196192
more new tunes coming soon..i think.....


NICE!!
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Post by: bdfreetuna on July 16, 2008, 10:24:20 am
Tunage should be on the new album.

I don\'t care if half the band is new. It\'s still the same band. Just like when they changed their name from Psychedelic it was the same band. And just like when Jordan left it was still The Breakfast.

Its not like they are only playing songs written since Chris joined (I mean pre-Chris but with Matt songs shouldn\'t count either by whatever logic I\'m picking up on here)...

I say if its not on a previous album, if it kicks ass, and if Matt and Chris can play it, put it on a new one.
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Post by: Klout on July 16, 2008, 10:30:15 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;196203
passive aggressive gay bashing = the best way to be taken seriously and get your point across

you = official .info gay rights advocate and master of maintaining a professional and politically correct tone while discussing jamband music on the interent. thumbs up guy.
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 16, 2008, 10:39:48 am
I\'m not saying that this is definitely a good idea or bad idea, just throwing it out there:

What about rerecording Buquebus for the new album? Deuce ain\'t exactly Sgt. Pepper\'s as far as circulation, so it\'s not like a great deal of people who aren\'t on DOTinfo would notice. I\'m not sure if there is a recent precedent with a band (on or around the Breakfast\'s level of fame) doing something like this, but Buquebus seems to catch on wherever it\'s played, so why not give newbs what they want to find when they buy the album?

While you all stew on that, I\'ll be off learning how to insert the little tomato smiley into posts for future reference.

Quote from: Klout;196208
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;196203

passive aggressive gay bashing = the best way to be taken seriously and get your point across


you = official .info gay rights advocate and master of maintaining a professional and politically correct tone while discussing jamband music on the interent. thumbs up guy.

I\'m not a big fan of political correctness. I am, however, a big fan of coherent arguments.

And I regretted posting that reply as soon as I did, because I knew it was going to do nothing but instigate. My bust.
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Post by: tyzack on July 16, 2008, 10:45:11 am
Quote from: bdfreetuna;196207

I say if its not on a previous album, if it kicks ass, and if Matt and Chris can play it, put it on a new one.

Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;196210
I\'m not saying that this is definitely a good idea or bad idea, just throwing it out there:

What about rerecording Buquebus for the new album? Deuce ain\'t exactly Sgt. Pepper\'s as far as circulation, so it\'s not like a great deal of people who aren\'t on DOTinfo would notice. I\'m not sure if there is a recent precedent with a band (on or around the Breakfast\'s level of fame) doing something like this, but Buquebus seems to catch on wherever it\'s played, so why not give newbs what they want to find when they buy the album? My bust.


O.A.R. recorded their "first" album at least 3 times...

but I strongly dislike them and wouldn\'t put them anywhere near the same level as the breakfast.

I\'m just throwing it out there as a reference.
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Post by: Overexjoesure on July 16, 2008, 11:46:29 am
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;196210
I\'m not saying that this is definitely a good idea or bad idea, just throwing it out there:

What about rerecording Buquebus for the new album? Deuce ain\'t exactly Sgt. Pepper\'s as far as circulation, so it\'s not like a great deal of people who aren\'t on DOTinfo would notice. I\'m not sure if there is a recent precedent with a band (on or around the Breakfast\'s level of fame) doing something like this, but Buquebus seems to catch on wherever it\'s played, so why not give newbs what they want to find when they buy the album?

While you all stew on that, I\'ll be off learning how to insert the little tomato smiley into posts for future reference.

Quote from: Klout;196208
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;196203

passive aggressive gay bashing = the best way to be taken seriously and get your point across


you = official .info gay rights advocate and master of maintaining a professional and politically correct tone while discussing jamband music on the interent. thumbs up guy.

I\'m not a big fan of political correctness. I am, however, a big fan of coherent arguments.

And I regretted posting that reply as soon as I did, because I knew it was going to do nothing but instigate. My bust.


No way Drew, you did the right thing.  I was going to say something, but you did instead.  

That being said, "The Message" rocks.....
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Post by: bezerker on July 16, 2008, 12:04:59 pm
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196219


That being said, "The Message" rocks.....


:hscratch:  you\'re out of your fucking mind
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Post by: Jim Cobb on July 16, 2008, 12:05:32 pm
Quote from: Overexjoesure;196199
EP\'s are a waste. Too short, too much money, just a sad idea altogether. Nothing stands in the way of them making an 80 minute album with decent production, BUT themselves.  Make the financial investment and wow people with an 80 minute epic masterpiece and be done with it.  

To say that the new album should exclude Tunage, Ep 3 and eschers 3+4 is ludicrous.  Tunage is such a fun and powerful tune.  A studio version would fit nicely on XM radio.  I\'m sick of only having live versions of it on my Ipod!! While I wasn\'t a fan of Ep3 at first because of the anti-climatic blues ending, I think the band should stay consistent with releasing each episode on a studio album.  And with Eschers, the band is playing it more with Chris and Matt, than they did with Ron.    

All they need to do is find a half decent producer who knows how to run a mixing board and they\'re golden.


hey, joe, if you\'ve got the money to do an 80 minute record the right way (and this means a whole lot more than finding "a half decent producer who knows how to run a mixing board"), i\'m sure they\'d love to do a full length on your dime!

the thing is, they DO need more than a "half decent producer".  that\'s what they\'ve had for their past few studio records, and by no means to i consider any of them really phenomenal records.  when i want to turn someone on to the breakfast, i do NOT point them in the direction of their studio recordings.  they\'re not BAD records, but they don\'t capture that special something that this band has.  i mean isn\'t that the point of going into the studio?  to take that magic you have and documenting it for people to be able to enjoy at their leisure?  this band needs a really well produced studio recording, especially with the strength of the songwriting as of late.  to stretch a limited budget into an 80 minute record will get you more of the same.  i really believe that this record must be (and absolutely can be) a REALLY amazing piece of work that anyone who appreciates this genre would want in their cd rotation at all times.  the material is SOLID!  to spread the time/money/energy too thin recording/producing it would be a real shame.  IMHO, it would be a waste.  what they need is someone who understands how to PRODUCE a record, not just engineer one.  Sonically, their past could records sound pretty good.  The sounds are solid enough, and the mixes are good, but that\'s only part of what makes a good record.  whoever produces this record should spend a WHOLE lot of time working with the band before they even book the studio time.

i guess my point is, making an 80 minute "epic" that will actually "wow" people takes a LOT more money than one would think.  it\'s not just a question of dipping into the savings a little bit for a little something extra.  it\'s a HUGE expense if you want to do it the right way.  god willing, this isn\'t the last record the breakfast is going to make.  you do a smaller handful of the tunes and do them REALLY well, AND you have plenty of additional material in your back pocket, i\'d say you\'re sittin pretty....
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Post by: Lexington on July 16, 2008, 02:47:40 pm
i love threads like this. gaybashing, extreme opinions, disagreements, polite but real dick put downs, its great. if only leith were here.

well i think there are some good ideas flying around here. it seems like the biggest issues are what to do with the Message and Living Daylights, and which (if any) older tunes should appear on this hypothetical new release

just trying to focus the comments on the real issues, not on hating each other (as fun as it is)

jim, i think you are right. they don;t need to put all the tunes on there. BUT i do think that IAQ needs to be on the record, and maybe throw on a heady soundboard recording from a show. i know the band doesnt have all their vocals and insrtuments balanced through the soundboard, but maybe just do a couple tunes like that during a show or something. y\'know, just throw a sweet HLH or Tunage live track on there.
i dunno
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Post by: tyzack on July 16, 2008, 03:09:22 pm
Quote from: Lexington;196238
i love threads like this. gaybashing, extreme opinions, disagreements, polite but real dick put downs, its great. if only leith were here.

...

just trying to focus the comments on the real issues, not on hating each other (as fun as it is)



Errr...I thought that was the hole point of internet boards; the ability to annoymously flame the shit out of people.
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Post by: BennyBoomers on July 16, 2008, 03:21:16 pm
I think it would pay off better for the band to have The Message on an album before Living Daylights.



Bdfreetuna had it right- if the tune kicks ass, and isnt on a previous studio album- it\'s fair game.  I mean these songs were written by people still in the band (I\'m thinkin of Eschers 3 and 4 being Adrians tune and Episodes pretty much being Tim tunes and I imagine Tun-Tun is a tim tune but I\'m not sure)

-peaches incog
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Post by: bezerker on July 16, 2008, 03:38:52 pm
Quote from: BennyBoomers;196241
and I imagine Tun-Tun is a tim tune but I\'m not sure)

-peaches incog



def
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Post by: Vassillios on July 16, 2008, 04:21:05 pm
how about this... don\'t put EITHER the message or living daylights on there. both would ruin the album.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on July 16, 2008, 06:30:14 pm
I want to hear The Message done well in a studio. Its def not their most hardcore song, but I think its catchy and could probably get a lot of Tea Leaf Green and RAQ fans to perk their ears up :lol:
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Post by: boombox on July 17, 2008, 04:04:00 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;196260
I want to hear The Message done well in a studio. Its def not their most hardcore song, but I think its catchy and could probably get a lot of Tea Leaf Green and RAQ fans to perk their ears up :lol:


Good point. I was never a fan of the song in its early days, but it has grown on me; it\'s hardly a vintage pb/breakfast MkI song, but would go down well. Might even get radio exposure if mixed right.

I too like the idea of a double acoustic live album as a bit of a stop-gap, maybe with a few studio tracks like the Message and a few never studio-recorded pb/tb tunes on the end as a bonus. This wouldn\'t damage the album as these days, we don\'t live in an album environment - everyone has mp3 players on random play, it seems. As a result, you don\'t need to worry about complete continuity and this would give the band a chance to record just a few songs which they want to do.

Also a live acoustic album should be comparatively cheap to record, which would then be a nice taster for a new album they could really take their time over, not having blown all their cash.
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Post by: ds673488 on July 17, 2008, 04:31:38 pm
if they did a normal new album...

1. The sound
2. IAQ
3. Reel Time
4. Synergy
5. World Needs Us
6. Metropolis
7. Rush
8. Tunage
9. Eppy 3
10. Rufus

If they did a studio concept Album...

1. Space City affair>
2. Wake up in a Coma>
3. Eschers Etchings (part 1-4)>
4. Episode 3 (awakening)>
5. MU (episode 4)>
6. Son of Simpleton>
7. Sundance
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Post by: ulee on July 17, 2008, 04:58:13 pm
Quote from: bdfreetuna;196260
I want to hear The Message done well in a studio. Its def not their most hardcore song, but I think its catchy and could probably get a lot of Tea Leaf Green and RAQ fans to perk their ears up :lol:


I think it sounds great acoustic (Daniel St 2-17-08).  Seems like it would make a good album song, even if it doesn\'t necessarily fit into the context/energy of a live show.
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Post by: Vassillios on July 17, 2008, 05:13:24 pm
Quote from: ds673488;196377
if they did a normal new album...

1. The sound
2. IAQ
3. Reel Time
4. Synergy
5. World Needs Us
6. Metropolis
7. Rush
8. Tunage
9. Eppy 3
10. Rufus

If they did a studio concept Album...

1. Space City affair>
2. Wake up in a Coma>
3. Eschers Etchings (part 1-4)>
4. Episode 3 (awakening)>
5. MU (episode 4)>
6. Son of Simpleton>
7. Sundance


I dig the looks of both of these, but I think the latter would never happen. And Rufus will most likely not get put on the new one... the one from Bona Fide is pretty ser in itself
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on July 17, 2008, 08:57:01 pm
I could be wrong, but I really don\'t think that Episode 3 will be on the new album.

As far as most of us know, the nine songs debuted in 2008 will definitely be on the album:
Reel Time
The Sound
World Needs Us
Living Daylights
The Message
Infrequently Asked Questions
Metropolis
Rush
Synergy

On top of those nine, Dig, Rust, Escher\'s 3 & 4 and Tunage all probably have a better shot of being on the album than Eppy 3 does. So unless we\'re shooting for a double album, Eppy 3, which would probably run 6-7 minutes minimum, has a very slim shot at making it on the album. In a related story, a double album, while probably not the smartest business decision, would be epic if they pulled it off.

Again, I don\'t have any information aside from what everybody knows and what can be safely assumed, so I may be wrong.
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Post by: fizzlefest on August 02, 2008, 06:36:33 pm
So I checked out the bands myspace page today ( http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast (http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast) ) and noticed they added a few studio versions of the new songs to their playlist...

The World Needs Us
Reel Time
The Message
The Living Daylights
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Post by: Vassillios on August 02, 2008, 08:16:56 pm
sweet... good find
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Post by: bezerker on August 02, 2008, 08:33:31 pm
eat a d
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Post by: ds673488 on August 02, 2008, 10:09:43 pm
they sound good, by why those songs, of all the new ones?

should have been:
rush
reel time
world needs us
synergy
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on August 03, 2008, 08:05:16 am
Quote from: ds673488;198037
they sound good, by why those songs, of all the new ones?

should have been:
rush
reel time
world needs us
synergy

Or why not just give the whole album away for free? :drew:

Always leave them wanting more...
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Post by: tyzack on August 04, 2008, 08:00:05 am
Quote from: fizzlefest;198026
So I checked out the bands myspace page today ( http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast (http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast) ) and noticed they added a few studio versions of the new songs to their playlist...

The World Needs Us
Reel Time
The Message
The Living Daylights


does living daylights sound maybe okay in studio?
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Post by: Yoda on August 04, 2008, 09:23:31 am
I\'m not sure why everyone hates on The Living Daylights?  I liked this song from the first time I heard it (and yes, the studio version is good).  

Just some thoughts, and I\'m sure, you\'ll all be hating on me after your read this, but I\'m going to say it just the same:

1 - I don\'t know how you would go about recording Synergy, unless you were going to devote a quarter of the CD to it.  That being said, it\'s a great song, but both time I saw them this year (at the same venue), they played Synergy and I left like in total time, it was about 45 minutes to an hour that I didn\'t get to hear some other music.  One time, I get it, but play something else the next time around.  I felt the same way about Tweezer, it\'s seemed that every time I saw Phish, I got this tune.  Don\'t get me wrong, I like Synergy - it\'s just that I\'d rather hear another 1-2 songs in place of it

2 - The World Needs Us and The Message feel a little too preachy to me.  The music fits in great, but the lyrics are so contrasting to the rest of TB tunes that it brings the set to a screeching halt.

Go ahead, fire away
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Post by: ds673488 on August 04, 2008, 09:48:04 am
all i know is reel time sounds the best of all of them, imo
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Post by: Klout on August 04, 2008, 09:53:20 am
LD ownz.

anyone who hates on it is a newb in my mind.

1-the composed section of synergy is better than any of the other songs and should be on there just for that. just do a short but sweet jam. I understand your point of the song being overly  drawn out live (but if you went to more shows you would be able to enjoy it more and worry less about what else you might be hearing). Granted sometimes they are very long but dont really go anywhere at first glance. Thats okay though.  Thats how it needs to be. It\'s a total type 2 jam.  Never know where its going to go. I\'d rather that than say OE where you know exactly how the jam is gonna be. Less exciting type two is more interesting to me at this point than hard raging type one. been there done that. stretch it out and just let whatever happens happen. Thats the type of experimentation this band needs to journey on. A lot of the mellower ones are actually great. Just more ambient than your average bfast jam.   How many other songs can you say have an awesome composed section and pure type two jam machines right from the very first version? Needs to be on the album.  Its the best song out of the lot.

2- Message is pretty meh and I would deffinitly skip the track if I was listening to it on cd but the World Needs Us is totally different story.  Its an instant classic in my mind.  If you really understand whats going on in the world today the lyrics are right on.  The music is powerful and tasteful and they usually throw a pretty wicked untz jam on it these days. Demo version is good but I like it live better but it still deffinitly belongs on the album.

also I really don\'t see how people are still so geeked out on reel time?

It was cool at first and great that everyone supported chris on his first track and yea its still catchy  and the demo version sounds good (harmonies sound sick) but honestly...

How many times can you get off on a 6 minute song played at least every other show that is exactly the same every single time???

Its good but its not THAT good! good version and good for the album but live it needs to get axed with the quickness.

overall it could be a wicked diverse and pretty classic album
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Post by: tyzack on August 04, 2008, 10:18:07 am
I don\'t like way the vocals are live; tim shouts/screams his part in a fake/deep growl voice and matt and chris try to do the harmony to it, and, to me, it just doesn\'t work.

Clean up the harmony, make tim\'s growl and real growl and speed it up a bit.

Well, actually, as a breakfast tune it\'s not that bad. I was comparing it to enslaved.
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Post by: booztravlr on August 04, 2008, 10:28:23 am
Quote from: fizzlefest;198026
So I checked out the bands myspace page today ( http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast (http://www.myspace.com/thebreakfast) ) and noticed they added a few studio versions of the new songs to their playlist...

The World Needs Us
Reel Time
The Message
The Living Daylights


Is anyone else having problems listening to these songs or is my work PC being a POS?
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Post by: Vassillios on August 04, 2008, 12:10:08 pm
Living Daylights is actually the only one I like, and i don\'t even like it that much. The songs sound clean and vocals are crisp, but the songs themselves just don\'t do it for me. I don\'t know if I want an album with all cheesy slow songs... If I buy a Breakfast album I want to hear Breakfast music: fast-paced, strange chord-changes with killer composed sections and raging solos. Lyrics don\'t mean shit to me.

That being said, Synergy, Rush, Metropolis, IAQ are ones I would rather hear in the studio, along with eppy 3 or 4 or eschers or some sick new tim song. These songs on myspace are good to attract noobs i guess, but it\'s sure gonna be a disappointing album for me if they are included.
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Post by: OMS on August 04, 2008, 12:57:31 pm
i genuinely dislike all of these tunes. i agree with vaissillios that LD is the only one i marginally enjoy, and that\'s not much. pretty let down with this stuff.
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Post by: Gfunk on August 04, 2008, 03:40:25 pm
< still geeked on reel time
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Post by: ds673488 on August 04, 2008, 03:43:37 pm
Quote from: Gfunk;198170
< still geeked on reel time


same here...sounds the best of all the studio versions...although thats kinda weighted since LD and the message are 2 of the 4 recorded
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Post by: Overexjoesure on September 07, 2008, 10:53:21 pm
^^ because I cant get enough of this fucking band and I can\'t wait any longer for a new album....
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Post by: FrankZappa on September 08, 2008, 08:45:07 am
just want to say, I love that papa gfunk took that ridiculous picture I got of ellis and made an avatar out of it. :lol:
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Post by: SlimPickens on September 08, 2008, 09:08:42 am
Quote from: FrankZappa;201867
just want to say, I love that papa gfunk took that ridiculous picture I got of ellis and made an avatar out of it. :lol:


Ha!  I didn\'t even realize that was ellis.  More glasses.

Marge: Have you noticed any change in Bart?
Homer: New glasses?
Marge: No...he looks like something might be disturbing him.
Homer: Probably misses his old glasses.
Marge: I guess we could get more involved in Bart\'s activities but then I\'d be afraid of smothering him.
Homer: Yeah, and then we\'d get the chair.
Marge: That\'s not what I meant.
Homer: It was, Marge, admit it.
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 06, 2009, 01:09:45 am
Quote from: thatguy;196192
more new tunes coming soon..i think.....


:moo:
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 06, 2009, 11:41:49 am
hold your horses, people.  shit\'s in the works.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on May 06, 2009, 01:03:07 pm
Quote from: Lexington;196238
i love threads like this. gaybashing, extreme opinions, disagreements, polite but real dick put downs, its great.

hellz

reppin\' extreme opinions for life, yo!
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Post by: skalnbyc on May 06, 2009, 01:11:59 pm
Quote from: Jim Cobb;229504
hold your horses, people.  shit\'s in the works.


urbanfetch.info or Bfast?

You doing some engineering in your spare time?
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 06, 2009, 04:26:26 pm
both.  new Urban Fetch EP due out this summer.

Bfast things a brewin\' as well.  not sure how much i can talk about just yet.
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Post by: jking on May 06, 2009, 04:31:52 pm
they told me it was ok for you to tell us everything. promise.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 06, 2009, 04:44:04 pm
Yeah I\'m working on some stuff as well. Gonna change the future of music as we know it. More details to follow.
Title: So..... new album anyone?
Post by: Gfunk on May 06, 2009, 05:29:16 pm
spill da beans
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Post by: bdfreetuna on May 06, 2009, 05:31:55 pm
Quote from: Vassillios;229572
Yeah I\'m working on some stuff as well. Gonna change the future of music as we know it. More details to follow.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 06, 2009, 06:25:00 pm
sarcrasm.... i got nothin
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Post by: dj dizzy k on May 06, 2009, 10:49:48 pm
youre all gonna shit
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 06, 2009, 11:09:46 pm
what?
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Post by: Spacey on May 06, 2009, 11:30:55 pm
Just shy of a decade.
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Post by: peaches626 on May 07, 2009, 01:46:04 am
whose dj dizzyk?


and vasillios- u already changed the world with that free style video!
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Post by: Vassillios on May 07, 2009, 09:05:49 am
Quote from: peaches626;229620
whose dj dizzyk?


and vasillios- u already changed the world with that free style video!


hot dog rap? glad i could make a difference ;)
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Post by: dj dizzy k on May 26, 2009, 08:28:22 pm
My name is Josh. Im from Chicago. I emailed Tim in 06 after seeing them at 10KLF. Been in contact ever since. Most recently trekked out to Penn. for SKOJ.  I also introduced him to the venue their playing July 7th. And yes, an album is on the way. Tim didnt say whether or not I could give details, but I wont just to be safe.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 12:23:29 am
i think it\'s safe to say y\'all can expect some of the newer jams along with some old gems.  
that vague enough?

5 songs.  ~66 minutes.
better?
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Post by: dj dizzy k on May 27, 2009, 01:38:44 am
sounds about right..
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Post by: Vassillios on May 27, 2009, 09:34:26 am
wowza. when can we expect a release date?
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 09:54:41 am
there\'s one piece of information i do not have.  i think you\'ll have to wait for an official announcement.

three words to describe it:

really
fucking
good.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 27, 2009, 10:30:32 am
i don\'t doubt it\'s good. i love me some breakfast studio. once it comes out, all the songs will be at the top of my 25 most played in itunes fo SHEEzy.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 10:52:10 am
nobody said studio ;)
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Post by: Vassillios on May 27, 2009, 11:13:58 am
aw shiz......
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 11:27:24 am
i\'ve said too much! *jumps out window*
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Post by: inthewhitelodge on May 27, 2009, 11:39:16 am
Quote from: Jim Cobb;231662
i\'ve said too much! *jumps out window*


Lasso him back! There\'s Bfam waiting in here! lol
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Post by: Yoda on May 27, 2009, 12:07:23 pm
I\'ll be interested to hear this even though I was hoping for a studio album...  I\'m guessing that songs will be pulled from the 2/28/09 show since there were references to a 48 track recorder and Todd saying shits in the works...  That being said, there\'s really nothing new from that show...
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Post by: SkyePrizm on May 27, 2009, 12:19:01 pm
A live album?  Thats awesome.   Can we get this up on itunes when its released???
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Post by: Drew_Kingsley on May 27, 2009, 04:59:12 pm
Quote
Setlist: 2009-02-28 - The Field; Bridgeport, CT
I: jam > Cut Me Some Slack, jam > Tunage, Synergy, Sundance

II: jam > May Fly Disarray, Episode 3 (Awakening), Space City Affair > jam > Metropolis

E: Gladys Pimp And Kangaroos With Me*

* Preceded by \'Happy Birthday\' to Tim, sung by audience.

All originals not currently on an album with no segues (except out of jams), plus an alleged 48-track recording unreleased on LMA. We have a winner.
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Post by: dj dizzy k on May 27, 2009, 05:06:11 pm
Hmm... I think you\'re on to something...
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 05:10:21 pm
*tugs collar*
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Post by: Yoda on May 27, 2009, 05:21:45 pm
If that\'s the case, there\'s nothing new....

CMSS - been around since january 99
Tunage - been around for over 2 years
Synergy - new, but too long for a single cd
Sundance - been around since 2000
May Fly - been around since 2000
Epi 3 - been around for almost 4 years
Metropolis - new, but too long for a single cd

How is this different than the shows on archive orther than the 48 track recording?  I\'m excited that they\'re putting something out, but I was hoping for something new...
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Post by: Lexington on May 27, 2009, 05:27:55 pm
yoda says no to new album. surprising.
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Post by: Vassillios on May 27, 2009, 05:45:51 pm
it will be good to hear quality versions of all those songs.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 27, 2009, 06:01:16 pm
looks like Yoda Records will be funding a new studio album from the Breakfast!
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Post by: tmn8r1 on May 27, 2009, 06:29:42 pm
yoda - don\'t listen.










scram.
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Post by: frolfer on May 27, 2009, 07:49:19 pm
Hot damn!!!!

I can\'t wait!
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Post by: Gfunk on May 27, 2009, 08:58:18 pm
i didn\'t read this whole thread, but is there an estimated date for when this live album will be available? also i can\'t wait to hear Adj\'s solo biz, shits off the hook.
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Post by: OMS on May 27, 2009, 09:00:28 pm
Quote from: tmn8r1;231761
yoda - don\'t listen.










scram.

sick..timmy let\'s get some deets please
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Post by: dj dizzy k on May 27, 2009, 09:20:56 pm
Thataboy Tim...see, Yoda, the thing is that alot of the breakfast\'s best tunes on albums were recorded LIVE in the studio. (How about OverExposure in one take?) So as long as an album is edited well enough, live work can be just as gratifying as studio work.
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Post by: leith on May 27, 2009, 09:46:33 pm
Quote from: dj dizzy k;231779
Thataboy Tim...see, Yoda, the thing is that alot of the breakfast\'s best tunes on albums were recorded LIVE in the studio. (How about OverExposure in one take?) So as long as an album is edited well enough, live work can be just as gratifying as studio work.


This is why Deuce continually finds it\'s way to the top of my personal favorite Breakfast albums and albums in general.
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Post by: Jim Cobb on May 28, 2009, 08:33:16 am
trust me it sounds good.  someone really talented and brilliant and sexy mixed it.....:biggrin:
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Post by: leith on September 13, 2009, 09:12:42 pm
So Live As Is has been released and it\'s rocking!
Sixth album in the Breakfast discography.

Now what about this?

From .org today.

Biography

The Breakfast is a hard-hitting jazz rock experimental quartet whose music ranges from progressive rock to sonic landscapes.  Since the group’s inception 11 years ago the band has played over 1000 shows throughout the country, released 6 albums and is on the verge of releasing a 7th.

Well?


btw LOVE the new Bio.
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Post by: zuke583 on September 13, 2009, 10:56:20 pm
are they counting \'zone 1\' as an album and \'live as is\' as #7?
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Post by: Igziabeher on September 13, 2009, 11:08:37 pm
Psychedelic Breakfast
Deuce
Bona Fide
Real Radio
Moxey Epoxy
Live As Is

I highly doubt they count zone 1.
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Post by: bdfreetuna on September 13, 2009, 11:21:23 pm
Sick! Can\'t wait for the new "normal" album... Rush and Metropolis alone are going to make it totally sick
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Post by: mwaltz21 on September 13, 2009, 11:35:56 pm
amazingness
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Post by: leith on September 13, 2009, 11:45:31 pm
Quote from: zuke583;240845
are they counting \'zone 1\' as an album and \'live as is\' as #7?

Per .org

Discography:

Live As Is (Independent, 2009)
Moxie Epoxy (HMG Recordings, 2006)
Real Radio (HMG Recordings, 2005)
Bona Fide(Sonance Records, 2002)
Deuce(Sonance Records, 2001)
Psychedelic Breakfast (Psychedelic Breakfast, 1999)