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Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: psychjosh on January 24, 2004, 12:36:32 pm
Hi everyone,

There has been lots of talk about this over the past month or so and we feel obligated to you guys to share our thoughts and decisions with everyone.

Psychedelic Breakfast will begin re branding themselves as "the Breakfast" The decision to drop the word "Psychedelic" from the moniker was not an easy one.

When we started this journey, no one ever really thought we\'d be recognized on a national level so when it came to choosing our name, no one ever really considered the down side to being PB. There was no down side! Just 4 buddies sharing a passion for live impovisation and sonic exploration.

The goal of this band is to grow. We are eternally grateful for the support and devotion that all of you as fans have given to this band. Without you guys we never would have made it this far.

We do not look at this as a "name change" we are, have been and always will be "the Breakfast". In dropping the word Pyschedelic from the title we hope to open the eyes of many people who simply refused to ever hear the band based on our name. It\'s unfortunate but true. Additionally, we hope that this change will force promoters not to "overlook" the music based on a name that many "industry professionals" do not take seriously.

There are rumors circulating that PB is doing this in an attempt to commercialize themselves. I don\'t think I need to spend too much time on this. Anyone who has heard this band knows full well that they do what they do. They write songs about things they care about and it\'s really that simple. Would the band welcome some degree of commercial success? You bet your ass they would. They desrve it as much as any one else. The definition of tragedy would be if this band could not sustain itself because no one ever got a chance to hear them play.

Rest assured that the music will only change as much as the composers do in any given year. The music is different now from what it was in 1998 and God willing it will continue to grow and mature as the band does.

For now.. we are still Psychedelic Breakfast and we are introducing the country to the Breakfast one room at a time. Please continue to suport the cause and tell everyone know not to leave home w/o getting some Breakfast in their system!

Thanks again for being the best fans in the world!

The calendar is filling quickly! Check our page at http://www.jambase.com for additions!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: obsession600 on January 24, 2004, 03:12:51 pm
Thanks for the info. You have my full support (though I still prefer PB or Staven Cougar)

and as a side note: anyone want to buy some Psychedelic Breakfast memorabilia?
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: freddiewaht on January 24, 2004, 04:09:51 pm
whatcha got bro??
Title: Pee Break
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 01:50:31 am
Name change?  Wow, I guess I have been a little out-of-the-loop lately.  I really have been cut off from the old PB music scene I enjoyed for 4 years at UMass.  I listen to my PB tapes and cds frequently at my work desk and often remember the times when I would be arriving home with the rising sun after a night out over state lines to see PB.  Unfortunately, I am now waking up at that time of morning.  I just have to say that the Staven quartet will always occupy a special place in my heart.  I have been busy at work in Boston and somehow missed the conversion to PB fans.com (though I did register for PBfans) from the previous method of a daily flow of email updates.  I am planning on making it out to the Iron Horse for my first show in many, many months.  I hope that the band gets a larger marketing budget so we can employ the talents of gurus Wolfman and Peck -the two that always make me laugh when I read the posts.

Has the music really changed a bit since last spring?  I hear rumors of songs that sound nothing like the old PB.  **Reminder that the guys have had many musical influences across unlikely genres so they may have an appreciation for many different sounds**.

I am curious and excited to hear this new sound.  The PB I remember is intense and diverse in sound and volume.  Can someone give me a preview/comparison?  Is the guitar still wailing?  Is the little drummer boy still beating the hell out of the drums?      

How was the NYE show?  I had considered going but got out of work a bit late due to an unexpected "project".  

Has the fanbase grown regionally and nationally?  I noticed while making my first trip to jambase.com in nearly a year that PB was #19 in the list of most searched bands.  That seems like a good indication of popularity to me.  I have always believed that PB would make a deep impact across the country.  I remember Josh telling me years ago that the band would someday sell out stadiums.  I hope that dream is still alive.   I wish my specialty was marketing so I could get involved in the efforts.

What have been the best shows and venues of late?  

I hope the band is phasing in the new name because they are proud of it and feel comfortable with it.  They will always PB/Psyche B to me though.  I feel like originality is important, in any business.  I work in the investment field and feel like I am more successful because of my unique personality and tendency to go against the grain and corporate bureaucracy.  There is definitely no one like me in my office and I love it.  I sing PB tunes out loud at my desk and it helps me get through the day while I still complete work with accuracy.

I hope the Amherst/UMass fanbase is still thriving.  We always had successful shows on campus and in the area.  Those shows were so darn good and I will never forget them.  I was actually just looking at the old Wrestle Mania 420 pictures from 2000 (or was it 2001?) the other day and got some laughs.    

See you all soon and hope you have been well


Don\'t ever settle for second best!


Alexander "Skal" Zurflueh
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: FrankZappa on January 25, 2004, 06:32:58 am
Alex! whats up man! (its paul, the guy who was fighting with Deblock at lot in those pics)
I was talking with todd at nye about \'whatever happened to\' and you came up first and foremost. good to hear your working. I\'m stuck in the same boat. I work 4a-noon, so its real hard to get out to the shows sometimes.

The newer songs still have a ton of groove in them, but the vocals will make you think its a whole new band. Lots of well written harmony parts, and rons voice has gone light years since how he used to sing at butterfield. Songs like Vera st. and Cosmic spaceway rhyme are really jazzy sounding vocal driven songs. Vera could be a 3 minute radio single or a 15 minute jam, depending on how the boys feel that night. The other two songs the premiered at nye just jam, pure and simple.
Title: Pee Break
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 12:31:25 pm
Good to hear from you Paul.

How do I change my subname from pbfan newbie to something else.  I\'d like to think I\'m something other a newbie fan.

Is Deblock really a minister or priest?  I can\'t remember if that was just a big joke or not.  Did he get married?  

How old is Wah\'s daughter Olivia?  

Any other interesting news and happenings?

Where are you living Seth W.?
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: freddiewaht on January 25, 2004, 01:12:23 pm
al z.what up brotherman?i think the last time i saw you was pearl street,but i could be wrong.WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?come around some time and you wont have to be askin all these sillyass questions.....lol.olivia just turned 3 jan5.shes perfect.beautiful and smart.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Wolfman on January 25, 2004, 01:15:36 pm
Al Z!  (Hey!) And pork and beans!  Guess who\'s back...back again! (nananananana)

Word up bro!  Nice to hear from ya!  First the band:  They still have yet to write a bad song.  The vocals have come a long way, the jams are still there.  I mean, they\'re still only 24-25 years old, excpet Jordan, he\'s gonna be 66 next month.  See for yourself next week at Iron Horse, I\'ll be there.  The band marketing is going well, everything is run by Gray (tiedyetoga).  NYE was awesome, they played for about 5 hours total, including 3.5 in a row.  The music has changed a little in that some of the new songs were built to be acoustic and have deeper vocal arrangements, but overall it\'s the same gig.  Baker Quad 5/5/01 is still the best PB show ever, bar none, for both environment and the music itself.  One listen to the discs and you can hear and feel it all.

The UMass PB crew is pretty much defunct.  Almost nobody is at UMass anymore, I was the last to go this December.  Everyone\'s interests sort of changed, and nobody would go further than Northampton for shows after we left the dorms.  (You already know all this.)  Without all 100 of us living together and pushing each other to go every night, and with the band not being within 100 miles 5 nights a week, a lot loss less shows were seen.  (Man, those were the frikin DAYS.)  A lot of people were into it primarily because everyone else was always there and secondarily for the music, which is fine, but once everyone\'s not there then it kind of snowballs.  

I am in Boston, bored out of my skull, waiting to start work on February 6th.  I will be working in Manhattan as an account manager for Sam Adams.  (The beer, not the Bills\' defensive tackle.)  

I would love to see Al sitting behind his desk with a green visor, crunching financials, jamming out to PB and New Kids on the Block.  Too bad about your boy Michael Jackson.

Debloc did get married and I\'m pretty sure he did join the clergy, he was definitely in the process.  He\'s Yoda on here, he can fill you in on his life if he wants to.

You gotta make five posts to change your nickname.  

OK I think that covers all the questions.  Look forward to seeing you at the Iron Horse!  Can\'t wait to see TB!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Wolfman on January 25, 2004, 01:16:50 pm
They really did it.  No more PB.  We now have
[SIZE=16] TB [/SIZE]
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: freddiewaht on January 25, 2004, 01:40:18 pm
wolfy,do u have aim??
Title: 2 more and I\'ll be a newbie no more
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 04:38:54 pm
I\'ve got to change my nickname.  Drunk monk Skal?  I will try to get into the message business from work more often.  

I wish there was some way to rejuvenate the UMass scene.  The potential is always there but there is a totally new crop in place that may not know PB/TB.  There isn\'t anyone to organize an on-campus rager and many of the campus bureaucrats have tried their best to contain shows and events in dorms.  We never needed any supervision for the Butterfield shows and they were a success because the band could play late into the night and the fans could get wasted and wrestle stuffed fish between sets.  

The reason I got into PB was totally spontaneous.  I wondered why people were yelling in Butterfield late at night and went to see what was going on.  Someone let me into the show without paying and I was into a new scene almost instantly, like magic.  I never listened to that kind of stuff before that night.  I was into skateboarding/punk in the early/ mid 90\'s.  

I saw flyers for the Psychedelic Breakfast before that fall weekend in 1999 and thought that it was literally a crazy breakfast at 9am.  I thought there were going to be drug-laden omelettes.  It seemed like a normal event for a place like Butterfield.
Title: Framingham boy is bound for NY
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 04:46:32 pm
Congratulations on your new position.  Did you get to mention your experiences as PB road manager in your interview(S).  Are you going to be living and working in NYC?  Any other old UMass people down there or living somewhere interesting?  


I realized one thing while in NYC over Columbus day weekend: most NYC pizza shops do not have a great selection of slices.  We literally walked all over Manhattan in search of a buffalo chicken slice (available at all pizza shops in the valley).  We must have gone to 50 places just for the challenge of finding it.  

Lesson:  Regardless of the quality of the pizza at Antonio\'s in Amherst, one must fully appreciate the extraordinary selection of slices available.  I never appreciated that place while I was at school in Amherst.  I still need to try the legendary Sally\'s.  Much debate has already been generated about this place so I won\'t even ask if it is for real.
Title: memory check
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 05:03:09 pm
Come to think of it, I no longer remember how you got into PB Mr. Ferrara.  Where you an old friend of the Staven boys or were you just at the right place at the right time?

Wolfman was there on that night in 1999 with me so I\'ll never forget his "first time".  I remember that we kept looking at each other with smiles because the music was so good yet such a surprise.  

What ever happened to that Congo player that used to play with the band at some of the early shows in Butterfield?  I think his name may have been Jim Mcdonald or at least Jim.  I thought he was part of the band for the first few shows.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: skalnbyc on January 25, 2004, 05:08:32 pm
I think the marketing efforts (mailing list) hel[ed cultivate my interest in the band after my first show because I began to think about them and think about the venues they were playing at.  I may have never seen them again if I wasn\'t a UMass student (where others like Wolfman and Butterfield kids were talking about the band after the show) and if I wasn\'t on the mailing list.  

Did an episode 3 ever debut?  I remember speculating the intensity of the new song with Bonanno and other UMass kids like 3 years ago.  Where is Bonanno now.  He was/is a major fan.

He drove me to so many shows that were hours away.
Title: Re: 2 more and I\'ll be a newbie no more
Post by: tiedyetoga on January 25, 2004, 05:17:16 pm
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Originally posted by alexanderzurflu
I wish there was some way to rejuvenate the UMass scene.  The potential is always there but there is a totally new crop in place that may not know PB/TB.  There isn\'t anyone to organize an on-campus rager and many of the campus bureaucrats have tried their best to contain shows and events in dorms.  We never needed any supervision for the Butterfield shows and they were a success because the band could play late into the night and the fans could get wasted and wrestle stuffed fish between sets.


We have been working real hard in the past 2 weeks to get the Umass/Amherst/Northhampton scence back up to steam and stronger then it was. The Iron Horse show is going to be an awesome time. We have done alot of promotion for this show and the turn out will be awesome.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: dividedsky488 on January 25, 2004, 11:07:51 pm
man, this mean i wont be able to ever see PB, lol guues ill have to see Breakfast for their first gig, cnt wait!
Title: Re: memory check
Post by: FrankZappa on January 26, 2004, 05:00:54 am
Quote
Originally posted by alexanderzurflu

What ever happened to that Congo player that used to play with the band at some of the early shows in Butterfield?  I think his name may have been Jim Mcdonald or at least Jim.  I thought he was part of the band for the first few shows.


yea, Jim McDonald! what a great guy. I can\'t speak for him as of late, but He used to play in the same open mic house band that I did in college down in new haven. Havent seen him in two years, but I\'m sure he\'s still around new haven and doing his thing.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: rustyD on January 26, 2004, 11:03:57 am
I\'m happy that the band has made a decision, and I hope the best for them.. I know I will continue to go and support their music, by dancing my ass off and telling everyone how incredible the Breakfast is.  

Although I really really liked the original name.

Hey Alexander "Skal" Zurflueh, I am from Dartmouth too.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: origen on January 26, 2004, 11:56:27 am
Now that the name change is all but official, it is no use debating it or criticising the new name.  If we truly love this band, all we should do now is unconditionally support any decision they make.  As for changing the nature of the music, all I can say is this: I hope they don\'t start making a habit out of doing 3-5 minute songs, and I hope they don\'t forgo guitar solos in favor of quick, catchy, lyrical songs.  I am only one fan, and my opinion may hold little weight, but I was attracted to this band because of Palmieri\'s skill as a lead guitarist, and I live to hear the scorching 10 minute guitar solo coming out of his amp.  If this is done over on top of some new cool catchy lyrics - great.  Just don\'t get rid of the guitar solos and extended jams!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: rustyD on January 26, 2004, 11:58:44 am
I\'d bet the farm that they won\'t change a THING about their musical approach.  It\'s SKULL FU&K or die with these animals...
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: aJwvof on January 26, 2004, 12:54:21 pm
skull fuck huh wow!! if it opens more doors for the bands that is great and we should all walk through th doors with them and show support!!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: skalnbyc on January 26, 2004, 02:59:49 pm
Rustyd,

You live in Dartmouth, MA?  Who are you and do you know me?
Title: no big changes
Post by: psychjosh on January 26, 2004, 04:55:01 pm
I hope everyone realizes we have NO intention on changing our music.
Some songts are meant to be 3-5 minutes and others 25-45 minutes and I expect that will never change!

Thank god!!!!
Title: Re: no big changes
Post by: tiedyetoga on January 26, 2004, 05:01:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by psychjosh
I hope everyone realizes we have NO intention on changing our music.
Some songts are meant to be 3-5 minutes and others 25-45 minutes and I expect that will never change!

Thank god!!!!


:thumbsup
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: leith on January 26, 2004, 05:38:02 pm
Hear! Hear! Pun Intended.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: boombox on January 27, 2004, 04:13:49 pm
Oh well, here\'s hoping tb will do a Euro tour!!!! I mean, they\'re playing Canada with nero (another cool band) - it\'s a start.
(I can but hope.)
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on January 27, 2004, 04:39:30 pm
Quote
Originally posted by boombox
I mean, they\'re playing Canada with nero (another cool band) - it\'s a start.  (I can but hope.)

Swing and a miss...
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: davepeck on January 27, 2004, 05:08:27 pm
:lol:

must be the whole time difference thing... i don\'t think it\'s saturday yet in the uk. ;) just kiddin\', boom...

pb was actually supposed to leave for their europe tour today, but they went to the airport without passports.. :duck:
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: antbach on January 27, 2004, 05:29:09 pm
Quote
Originally posted by davepeck
:
pb was actually supposed to leave for their europe tour today, but they went to the airport without passports..


somehow that would not surprise me if it came down to it
Title: here we go...
Post by: psychjosh on January 27, 2004, 06:01:30 pm
here we go...
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: boombox on January 27, 2004, 06:27:24 pm
Ho Ho Ho guys!!!

Seriously though, just found this potential problem in the UK. While checking out the Jefferson Starship and sci tour dates to get my tickets for both, I discovered some Arthur Brown tour dates with........ The Psychedelic Breakfast!!!

This lot have been kicking around for a while.Their website is http://www.thebreakfast.co.uk/. Somehow I see future UK fans getting corrupted by this lot. Just a thought...
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: freddiewaht on January 27, 2004, 06:35:00 pm
pecks tough as nails...
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: leith on January 27, 2004, 07:37:01 pm
Thanx for the tip boombox. I don\'t know if PB\'s management has seen this or not. I hope so. Seems like someone dropped the ball on this side of the pond. Wonder what PB will call themselves if they make it to the UK ?
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on January 27, 2004, 07:48:56 pm
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Originally posted by leith
Thanx for the tip boombox. I don\'t know if PB\'s management has seen this or not. I hope so. Seems like someone dropped the ball on this side of the pond. Wonder what PB will call themselves if they make it to the UK ?

Every so often, somebody else stumbles upon this gem from across the Atlantic and brings it to our attention.  As far as I know, our PB holds the copyrights and such.  There was no ball dropping on the Staven end...

P.S. Does "ball dropping" sound dirty to anybody else?
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: leith on January 27, 2004, 08:08:50 pm
Thanx Drew. Glad to hear PB was not involved in any "ball dropping."
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: davepeck on January 27, 2004, 08:20:51 pm
ball dropping = tea bagging??

pb (tb)\'s new web address will be thebreakfast.net, as thebreakfast.com is registered to someone in, go figure, london!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: leith on January 27, 2004, 08:34:16 pm
LOL. London can\'t they come up w/ something original? Cool so when is that going to be up and running?
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: boombox on January 27, 2004, 08:35:01 pm
Don\'t really care whose balls have dropped, but glad that\'s been made clear.

However, drew, I believe the UK brekkie may well have been around first - perish the thought, citing Alan\'s Psychedelic Breakfast as their imspiration. No matter, though - we all know who\'s going to make it bigger!
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Wolfman on January 27, 2004, 08:46:27 pm
Yeah, we\'ve been onto that other Psychedelic Breakfast for years.  They should co-bill.  People would think that a band was opening for themselves.  Then when Tim sits in with them, their setlist asterisk would have to say *with Tim from the   other Psychedelic Breakfast.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: Wolfman on February 02, 2004, 06:08:24 pm
If "Psychedelic" is no longer part of the name, what happens to the website psychedelicbreakfast.com?  It\'s got to be changed.  You have to keep the brand and its promotions aligned.  Are there plans to change the website?  The band does not have a great history of efficiently utilizing basic marketing and accounting methods.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: skalnbyc on February 02, 2004, 09:52:53 pm
that\'s why you should provide some independent consulting to the Break boys.  I guess you are hardly an independent consultant given your position to the band (past and present) but you are never short of ideas and suggestions.
Title: thebreakfast.net
Post by: psychjosh on February 03, 2004, 07:49:27 am
is under construction
Title: Re: thebreakfast.net
Post by: Wolfman on February 03, 2004, 10:12:44 am
Quote
Originally posted by psychjosh
is under construction


Sweet.  It\'s time for a new website anyways.  Can\'t wait to see it.  I have one idea; presently when you want to see the upcoming shows, it takes you to jambase.  I understand the reason is because we\'re trying to boost jambase search totals, but suddenly you\'re no longer at psychedelicbreakfast.com and it\'s very easy to get sidetracked at jambase at forget that you were ever at psychedelicbreakfast.com.  The gigs should either come up at jambase in a pop-up browser, or be listed at the band\'s site.
Title: Re: Re: thebreakfast.net
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on February 03, 2004, 11:39:47 am
Quote
Originally posted by Wolfman
The gigs should either come up at jambase in a pop-up browser, or be listed at the band\'s site.


They actually are listed on the site as well, but the Jambase link is still prevalent.  Good idea, Wolf.
Title: The name game: An official statement
Post by: rustyD on February 04, 2004, 05:45:28 pm
All they need is to land some opening slots for bigger bands, and before long THE BREAKFAST will be bigger and more popular than PB ever was..!!