Post by: estahwhaddup on September 22, 2006, 01:52:22 pm
!["Image]("http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1277/breakfastflyerpa6.jpg")
i know many of you (and myself included) will not be there, but i wanted to share this sweet ass flyer that my buddy Ando made for myspace promo and stuff. i\'m not sure if they have recieved anything from the band to put stuff around town, but i guess internet is the only means to get the word out there back in the big Slow...
Post by: Gfunk on September 22, 2006, 01:58:19 pm
Post by: Buquebus on September 22, 2006, 08:55:36 pm
Post by: Steffmo on September 23, 2006, 12:24:39 pm
Post by: derickw on September 23, 2006, 02:34:25 pm
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Ron ships posters......says he did...
shouldn\'t that kind of stuff be handled by someone that might have more time to worry about those types of things? i\'m not trying to knock Ron but i would think it\'s about time to let the "mildpack" handle promo, i\'m sure Ron has other things to worry about then mailing people promo materials.
Post by: BluesPower on September 28, 2006, 12:20:34 am
Post by: Todd on September 28, 2006, 12:56:46 am
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I\'ll be there for the first time, since I couldnt see them the first two times they were here because I wasnt 21.
Hey there! Hope you have a great show!!! Go to the merch table and tell dumbass I say hi!!!
Quote from: BluesPower;120735
I havent seen any promotions of any sort around town for this show. I don\'t think the Shag does a very good job of promoting concerts, as the Oteil show only had about 20 people there.
:sigh: YIKES!!!!
Quote from: BluesPower;120735
If there was anything I could do to help promote it Id be happy to help out.
If you could print out some of these and pass them around, that would be awesome!!!
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1277/breakfastflyerpa6.jpg)
Post by: estahwhaddup on September 28, 2006, 01:08:37 am
many thanks to spacey for putting the flyer on myspace! hopefully that will generate more buzz since my friends didnt get the official band promo stuff
Post by: BluesPower on September 28, 2006, 09:19:37 pm
Quote from: estahwhaddup;120743
hey bluespower- hope you have a great show too! tell all your friends to come, ive seen the shag packed, we need more heads inside.
many thanks to spacey for putting the flyer on myspace! hopefully that will generate more buzz since my friends didnt get the official band promo stuff
yeah ive seen the shagg packed before, the oteil show was the first time there wasn\'t many people which was disappointing. I\'ll be printing some of these flyers off and leaving them at my school/work/malls. I hope there is a decent turnout.
Post by: bdfreetuna on September 28, 2006, 09:44:52 pm
I\'m gonna eat a 10-strip and stare at that for the next 12 hours ;)
Post by: Steffmo on September 29, 2006, 12:09:14 am
Seriously....we sent these folks a lot of stuff. I can\'t MAKE them use it....but perhaps they are getting a little too high these days.
Quote from: derickw;120259
shouldn\'t that kind of stuff be handled by someone that might have more time to worry about those types of things? i\'m not trying to knock Ron but i would think it\'s about time to let the "mildpack" handle promo, i\'m sure Ron has other things to worry about then mailing people promo materials.
Post by: Todd on September 29, 2006, 12:25:12 am
Quote from: Steffmo;120861
but perhaps they are getting a little too high these days.
:doh: :slap: :slap:
Post by: estahwhaddup on September 29, 2006, 12:25:15 am
Quote from: Steffmo;120861
I\'ll inform Ron of your executive decision.......
Seriously....we sent these folks a lot of stuff. I can\'t MAKE them use it....but perhaps they are getting a little too high these days.
usually the guy who owns the shag is pretty good w/ promoting stuff at his bars around omaha (he has 2 i think..., and one of them is also a bar/music venue like the shag). i know last time the breakfast were in town, there were ads in those local entertainment newspaper things and i know he has a lot of pull with one of the college radio stations in the area and had some of the breakfast\'s songs played on the air. however- i do believe he is in process of opening a new bar/club in town so maybe hes too busy w/ promoting stuff.. i mean that Oteil show had 20 people...
however- if these promo materials that you guys sent out were sent directly to my friends (instead of them having to print out and pay their own stuff)...the show would def be promoted all over and everywhere.
Post by: leith on September 29, 2006, 12:28:37 am
Quote from: Steffmo;120242
Ron ships posters......says he did...
I am sure he did but maybe the address was wrong or something like that.
Quote from: derickw;120259
shouldn\'t that kind of stuff be handled by someone that might have more time to worry about those types of things? i\'m not trying to knock Ron but i would think it\'s about time to let the "mildpack" handle promo, i\'m sure Ron has other things to worry about then mailing people promo materials.
Totally agree. The band should have been able to delegate some of that stuff to the Wild Pack as soon as the Wild Pack was established as announced on .net May 12th.
They could also ask their manager to look into these things oh wait they don\'t have one.
Quote from: Steffmo;120861
I\'ll inform Ron of your executive decision.......
Seriously....we sent these folks a lot of stuff. I can\'t MAKE them use it....but perhaps they are getting a little too high these days.
Yeah just as high as you must have been when putting the Moxie Epoxy information on the HMG site.
http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=8039&page=6
8th post down is some info you may need.
Post by: Todd on September 29, 2006, 12:39:26 am
Quote from: leith;120869
Yeah just as high as you must have been when putting the Moxie Epoxy information on the HMG site.
http://thebreakfast.info/forum/showthread.php?t=8039&page=6
8th post down is some info you may need.
I have a stinking suspicion that it was not Steffmo, but a certain web designer ggguuuuyyyyy that fucked that up!!
Post by: FrankZappa on September 29, 2006, 06:54:43 am
Promo means going out and interacting with the public. Alot of people say they will help and then get the stuff and do nothing with it. Other people, Jeff er, "spacey" for example simply go out and buy their own ball when there is not one on the court to play with. I find this very impressive. I\'m not saying that this case is because someone is lazy, or that ron didn\'t ship or shipped to the wrong address. The point I\'m making is that promo takes time and it\'s rough because alot of people toss them right after they take them out of your hand. It\'s hard to keep a positive attitude with things like that. Every now and then you get into a good conversation and turn someone onto the band, and I guess that is the reward.
I always have and always will give props to those who do promo. I don\'t know what happened here, but if you really want to help and can afford to print out some of those as handbills, then I think that is something you should definetly do. :thumbsup:
Introduce yourself to the band at the show and let them know. they are all really cool and layed back and they will definetly appreciate it. Have a great show!
Post by: derickw on September 29, 2006, 08:38:18 am
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Introduce yourself to the band at the show and let them know. they are all really cool and layed back and they will definetly appreciate it. Have a great show!
i agree but appreciation only goes so far when your pulling $20-$50 out of you pocket on top of taking the time to go to shows and pass out the material. hell i don\'t mind passing out promo materials but i\'m not rich. so you send a hundred or so flyers to myspace friends and .info family and that should be enough to bring in at least another 50-100 people. a grassroots promo fund needs to be established to handel these costs otherwise it\'s never gonna happen. just look at what can happen case in point the Toad\'s 1000th show
Post by: Spacey on September 29, 2006, 11:52:36 am
Post by: derickw on September 29, 2006, 12:11:11 pm
Post by: Spacey on September 29, 2006, 12:44:45 pm
Post by: derickw on September 29, 2006, 01:03:18 pm
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it probably costs more like a $1 to print out 50 fliers, there are 4 to a sheet.
i was thinking shipping costs as well
Post by: skalnbyc on September 29, 2006, 01:14:59 pm
Post by: kimmers on September 29, 2006, 05:15:38 pm
Quote from: BluesPower;120735
I havent seen any promotions of any sort around town for this show. I don\'t think the Shag does a very good job of promoting concerts, as the Oteil show only had about 20 people there. If there was anything I could do to help promote it Id be happy to help out.
Ando and I have been trying to get promo stuff for weeks, but to no avail, even though their manager promised Ando promotional posters and fliers months ago. He made it very clear to Ando to not make anything because things WOULD BE SENT. We made about 50-60 but at $1 a copy, I don\'t have that much money to put out, especially considering the amount I threw down last time they were in town that went straight to the band. Also, the Shag DOES do a great job promoting shows....I\'m there almost every week listening to some good tunes with kids. The reason no one was at Oteil was because it\'s not very good music, I was there the last time they were in town. I\'ve known about the upcoming Zilla show for close to 2 months now. We wanted the bfast back because it has always been a good time and they are great musicians, but it\'s hard to get the word out when we are STILL WAITING for the promotional goods they were supposed to send.
Post by: ANDO on September 29, 2006, 06:31:50 pm
Quote from: Spacey;120941
it probably costs more like a $1 to print out 50 fliers, there are 4 to a sheet.
Actually $ 1 per sheet. (KINKOS) When printing off any promotional material I use color copies. I think its better to represent the band as the band would want to be represented.
Slack-ass black and white handbills aren\'t paid attention to these days.
I dont do this to make money. I just want to see the breakfast in Omaha. Its a headache everytime. Next time I will probably just go see them somewhere else, and be much happier.
I was told by the booking agent (IRA) not to make anything as far as promotions go. He said the band was on a "Highly promoted CD release tour". I saw one piece of publicity, and that was on jambase.com. Other than that, who even knows they have a CD coming out. Anywho, I never received any promotional material. Neither did the venue, who does a great job of promoting. Oteil sucks, thats why no one was there. The first time he played here, tons of people, the next well, I didnt want to sit through that shit, so i did not go.
YES, we are getting really high in Omaha, and thank you. The dankest of the dank. Crisp and very with it.
The first time I booked the Breakfast in Omaha I tried to sign up for the "wild pack" or grassroots it was at the time. I never received anything, not even an email saying thank you for your interest in trying to get us some exposure. Nothing. The venue received some posters (nice ones) about 5 of them, and a CD. Last time I paid for all promotional material, spent about 170 dollars and did not make one cent nor was I looking to. This time, Kimmers has been spending money making fliers, and also paid the band $100 last time. I am not willing to spend any more money on a band that does not seem to care whether they are promoted well or not. Omaha loves the breakfast. But no one here knows about the show.
That is the problem right now. When we realized hey, these guys are not sending flyers. we made some, 10 days before the show. What can you really do with flyers in 10 days?
I would love to help the breakfast get there name out to the masses. I cant pay for it though. Especially when I see plenty of other bands out there "whoreing themselves out" and over-promoting, which in the music business is good.
The breakfast also needs new t-shirts. Back to what I was saying, Represent the way you would want to be represented.
Peace,
Come to Omaha and support the breakfast.
Ando
Post by: BluesPower on September 29, 2006, 08:38:38 pm
And dont forget Eric Sardinas is playing the shag on sunday.
Gonna be a great two days of music.
Post by: estahwhaddup on September 30, 2006, 04:17:44 pm
Quote from: ANDO;120994
YES, we are getting really high in Omaha, and thank you. The dankest of the dank. Crisp and very with it.
HAHAHA YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
i love you and i miss all of you- please tell everyone hello. THE CARTANTOR WILL BE COMING UP FOR THE FREAKOUT, where will you turks be?
Post by: Me! on September 30, 2006, 05:17:49 pm
Quote from: ANDO;120994
Actually $ 1 per sheet. (KINKOS) When printing off any promotional material I use color copies. I think its better to represent the band as the band would want to be represented.
Slack-ass black and white handbills aren\'t paid attention to these days.
I dont do this to make money. I just want to see the breakfast in Omaha. Its a headache everytime. Next time I will probably just go see them somewhere else, and be much happier.
I was told by the booking agent (IRA) not to make anything as far as promotions go. He said the band was on a "Highly promoted CD release tour". I saw one piece of publicity, and that was on jambase.com. Other than that, who even knows they have a CD coming out. Anywho, I never received any promotional material. Neither did the venue, who does a great job of promoting. Oteil sucks, thats why no one was there. The first time he played here, tons of people, the next well, I didnt want to sit through that shit, so i did not go.
YES, we are getting really high in Omaha, and thank you. The dankest of the dank. Crisp and very with it.
The first time I booked the Breakfast in Omaha I tried to sign up for the "wild pack" or grassroots it was at the time. I never received anything, not even an email saying thank you for your interest in trying to get us some exposure. Nothing. The venue received some posters (nice ones) about 5 of them, and a CD. Last time I paid for all promotional material, spent about 170 dollars and did not make one cent nor was I looking to. This time, Kimmers has been spending money making fliers, and also paid the band $100 last time. I am not willing to spend any more money on a band that does not seem to care whether they are promoted well or not. Omaha loves the breakfast. But no one here knows about the show.
That is the problem right now. When we realized hey, these guys are not sending flyers. we made some, 10 days before the show. What can you really do with flyers in 10 days?
I would love to help the breakfast get there name out to the masses. I cant pay for it though. Especially when I see plenty of other bands out there "whoreing themselves out" and over-promoting, which in the music business is good.
The breakfast also needs new t-shirts. Back to what I was saying, Represent the way you would want to be represented.
Peace,
Come to Omaha and support the breakfast.
Ando
THis is the kinda thing I hate hearing. Thanks for everyhting you do man.
Post by: Todd on September 30, 2006, 06:06:12 pm
Quote from: Me!;121051
THis is the kinda thing I hate hearing. Thanks for everyhting you do man.
Yeah! Def. big ups to you!!!
Post by: derickw on October 02, 2006, 09:50:01 am
Quote from: ANDO;120994
Actually $ 1 per sheet. (KINKOS) When printing off any promotional material I use color copies. I think its better to represent the band as the band would want to be represented.
Slack-ass black and white handbills aren\'t paid attention to these days.
I dont do this to make money. I just want to see the breakfast in Omaha. Its a headache everytime. Next time I will probably just go see them somewhere else, and be much happier.
I was told by the booking agent (IRA) not to make anything as far as promotions go. He said the band was on a "Highly promoted CD release tour". I saw one piece of publicity, and that was on jambase.com. Other than that, who even knows they have a CD coming out. Anywho, I never received any promotional material. Neither did the venue, who does a great job of promoting. Oteil sucks, thats why no one was there. The first time he played here, tons of people, the next well, I didnt want to sit through that shit, so i did not go.
YES, we are getting really high in Omaha, and thank you. The dankest of the dank. Crisp and very with it.
The first time I booked the Breakfast in Omaha I tried to sign up for the "wild pack" or grassroots it was at the time. I never received anything, not even an email saying thank you for your interest in trying to get us some exposure. Nothing. The venue received some posters (nice ones) about 5 of them, and a CD. Last time I paid for all promotional material, spent about 170 dollars and did not make one cent nor was I looking to. This time, Kimmers has been spending money making fliers, and also paid the band $100 last time. I am not willing to spend any more money on a band that does not seem to care whether they are promoted well or not. Omaha loves the breakfast. But no one here knows about the show.
That is the problem right now. When we realized hey, these guys are not sending flyers. we made some, 10 days before the show. What can you really do with flyers in 10 days?
I would love to help the breakfast get there name out to the masses. I cant pay for it though. Especially when I see plenty of other bands out there "whoreing themselves out" and over-promoting, which in the music business is good.
The breakfast also needs new t-shirts. Back to what I was saying, Represent the way you would want to be represented.
Peace,
Come to Omaha and support the breakfast.
Ando
trust me some us know your pain. everyone on .info should have a stack of fliers in there car and pass out atleast a couple. TT is in Richter\'s every week.... is there a Freakout poster in the window...... stuff like that is probably my one disslike as far as things being handled... if people don\'t know how can you expect them to go.
Post by: antbach on October 02, 2006, 11:08:45 am
Post by: estahwhaddup on October 02, 2006, 11:30:04 am
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I\'m not gonna say I read the whole thread, but I did manage to get the basic points of it. I\'m not gonna point any fingers or whatnot, but I will say that the Shag folk are awesome people. I had 24 more Save shirts printed up for the tour, which were expected to be finished before the band left, but weren\'t. My plan was to send them to HOB, but I couldn\'t contact anyone at the venue. I called Fine Line in Minneapolis, guy was cool, but said they HAD to be there on Friday because no one would be able to accept a delivery on Saturday. Shag, on the other hand, was cool enough to have the club owner call me directly, and he was more than willing to have them sent to his HOUSE because it would be safer. Relevant story to the context of the promo mix up in Omaha? Probably not, but I figured I\'d share anyways to express my content with the Omaha folks who seem to love the band.
terry (owner of the shag) is a heady guy
Post by: jking on October 02, 2006, 11:55:44 am
1: Late & the Great>Rufus>Good Things>Over Exposure, Psygn>Honey Butter>Psygn, Future Peek*>Eppy 3> Future Peek, Intension
2: Surreal Radio>TGSOT>Buquebus>TGSOT>Puppetry>Drunk Monk Bar>Puppetry>Mooboo\'s>Puppetry, Hard Luck Harry>Gladys>Score>See the Light>Sundance>Mayfly
&*=w/She Said She Said jam
Post by: Me! on October 02, 2006, 11:58:11 am
That\'ll be the day brother, but hey we all gotta dream. I\'m crossing my fingers for ya.
Post by: sconnie4satan on October 02, 2006, 12:03:14 pm
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ok, since its my birthday, this is the setlist i am pulling for~
1: Late & the Great>Rufus>Good Things>Over Exposure, Psygn>Honey Butter>Psygn, Future Peek*>Eppy 3> Future Peek, Intension
2: Surreal Radio>TGSOT>Buquebus>TGSOT>Puppetry>Drunk Monk Bar>Puppetry>Mooboo\'s>Puppetry, Hard Luck Harry>Gladys>Score>See the Light>Sundance>Mayfly
&*=w/She Said She Said jam
good luck! i\'m sure they have a 5-hour slot tonight ;)
what, no encore?!
Post by: jking on October 02, 2006, 12:09:17 pm
Post by: BluesPower on October 03, 2006, 02:04:03 am
had a great time at my first breakfast show.
Post by: Todd on October 03, 2006, 02:31:04 am
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fearless was easily the highlight.
had a great time at my first breakfast show.
Great to here you enjoyed!!! Welcome to the rest of your musical life! :D