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Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: davepeck on September 19, 2007, 11:17:35 am
BT (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=509534) or LMA (http://www.archive.org/details/raq2007-09-14)

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RAQ
2007-09-14
Stone Church
Newmarket, NH

Recorded and transfered by Andy Murray
andyjah420@yahoo.com

15\' from stage DFC
Schoeps MK4>KC5>CMC6>Sonosax SXM2>Apogee AD1000>Coax>
Edirol R-4(WAV@44.1k)>USB>Cdwav editor>FLAC.16

Disc 1:
Set 1:

Intro
Comin\' Home->
Just What I Needed*
Quick & Painless
Hot Wired
Tunnel Vision->
Gabvonie->Electric Boogie jam^->Gabvonie
Mollie\'s Cule%
Bob\'s Your Uncle
Andy#$->Bootch Magoo solo/jam->Andy

Disc 2:
Set 2:
My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama#
Let\'s Move To Cleveland#
Trouble Everyday#
Son of Mr. Greengenes#
Echidna\'s Arf#
Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy#
I Am The Slime#>Carbohydrates Are The Enemy jam~
Dirty Love#

Disc 3:
Encore:
Whipping Post+
Hannah Can@->
Loose@->
Hannah Can->Stop/Start Premium tease/jam->Hannah Can


* The Cars
^ Marcia Griffiths (aka "Electric Slide")
% w/ lyrics
# Frank Zappa
$ w/ Inca Roads jam
~ "Watermelon In Easter Hay" tease
+ Allman Brothers Band
@ slow version


i\'ll be checking this out. figured others would be interested as well.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: FrankZappa on September 19, 2007, 11:21:53 am
:wah:
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: weekapaug19 on September 19, 2007, 11:27:49 am
I heard this was a great show.  U-melt also did a zappa set last weekend
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on September 19, 2007, 11:29:08 am
thanks!
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Lexington on September 19, 2007, 10:55:26 pm
wow. at the stone church too. step it up bfast!
real dick

damn. this is good.

i never realized how sick their drummer is.

ok. so breakfast covers Sofa #1 > Black Page #2 and we\'ll just say this whole thing never happened
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Rickey Roux on September 20, 2007, 12:21:33 am
Thanks Dave.  The Zappa set is killer.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: weekapaug19 on September 20, 2007, 08:14:10 am
if i remember correctly, this is the second time raq has done a full zappa set, the setlist was similar tho
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on September 20, 2007, 10:28:24 am
yeah they did a zappa set in CO months and months ago, but they asked for the tapes not to be traded, i guess they did betetr at this show and let em loose
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: weekapaug19 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:24 am
hannah>loose>hannah is a sick encore....can\'t wait to find a copy of this
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: derickw on September 20, 2007, 12:15:21 pm
listening to it now, not to bad
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Lexington on September 20, 2007, 01:11:41 pm
honestly, i thought that Andy and Lets Move to Cleveland were the best. they totally shit the bed for Mr. Green Genes. Shit i\'ve heard the Shrine play it better. Even Echidna\'s was a little sloppy. but yea, overall it was real sick
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 20, 2007, 02:05:12 pm
Maybe I\'m alone on this, but I\'m not too impressed with RAQ.  This is the first time I\'ve heard to them since the co-bill at the Webster in 2004, and I definitely thought more of them then than I do now.  I don\'t want to say that this is their intent, but they sound to me a like a band trying to sound like The Breakfast and coming up a bit short.  Most of the Zappa covers sounded like a spontaneous, goofy cover should sound, not one that was practiced, honed, and added to the setlist.

I don\'t mean to bash RAQ; they are still better than 90% of bands I\'ve heard recently.  But from listening to this show I don\'t see how they are constantly considered comparable to or better than The Breakfast.

If anybody can point me toward a better RAQ show to listen to, I will gladly do so, but this is my opinion for now based upon my limited exposure to the band.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Lexington on September 20, 2007, 02:39:04 pm
yea boy!
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: leith on September 20, 2007, 02:52:13 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;159258
Maybe I\'m alone on this, but I\'m not too impressed with RAQ.  This is the first time I\'ve heard to them since the co-bill at the Webster in 2004, and I definitely thought more of them then than I do now.  I don\'t want to say that this is their intent, but they sound to me a like a band trying to sound like The Breakfast and coming up a bit short.  Most of the Zappa covers sounded like a spontaneous, goofy cover should sound, not one that was practiced, honed, and added to the setlist.

I don\'t mean to bash RAQ; they are still better than 90% of bands I\'ve heard recently.  But from listening to this show I don\'t see how they are constantly considered comparable to or better than The Breakfast.

If anybody can point me toward a better RAQ show to listen to, I will gladly do so, but this is my opinion for now based upon my limited exposure to the band.

You\'re def. not alone on this board in many of your thoughts but what I wonder is just where are RAQ constantly considered comparable or better than the Breakfast other than the Hyperfunkalicious board?

I personally enjoy their live shows when they come through but by no means do I seek out their music unless a show is recommended.
This show has some really good RAQ songs but suffers in the recording to me.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Drew_Kingsley on September 20, 2007, 03:16:11 pm
Quote from: leith;159265
where are RAQ constantly considered comparable or better than the Breakfast other than the Hyperfunkalicious board?


Poor choice of words on my part... how about "I don\'t understand how RAQ is placed on the same tier as The Breakfast".  I don\'t want to start another marketing/management complaint thread because I don\'t have the information to do so intelligently/correctly, but it can\'t just be the music.

Quote from: leith;159265
This show has some really good RAQ songs but suffers in the recording to me.


Without knowing jack about recording and whatnot, I agree.  I feel that the sound and/or recording quality doesn\'t give the show its due.  If this is par for the course for RAQ recordings, kudos to the Breakfast sound guys/tapers for consistently producing better quality than this.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: RadicalRich1138 on September 20, 2007, 03:30:20 pm
RAQ is awesome, all the shows dont sound nearly as good as the breakfast recording wise
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: davepeck on September 20, 2007, 03:32:37 pm
damn, i was hoping to listen to this on the way to albany tonight, but LMA is going slow as balls right now.

also, while i haven\'t heard it yet, i hope no one is judging any recordings by the sound of the stream and/or mp3s.

that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: derickw on September 20, 2007, 03:34:18 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;159271

Poor choice of words on my part... how about "I don\'t understand how RAQ is placed on the same tier as The Breakfast".  I don\'t want to start another marketing/management complaint thread because I don\'t have the information to do so intelligently/correctly, but it can\'t just be the music.


it\'s more than just managements responsibility to help spread the word and when you have dedicated fans helping, you can witness what happens......
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Gfunk on September 20, 2007, 03:42:04 pm
Not to start with The Breakfast>Raq or whatever but BFAST echindas owns Raq\'s echindas. just sayin.
That being said, I\'m still waiting for the Raq/Bfast tour.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: leith on September 20, 2007, 04:09:29 pm
Quote from: Drew_Kingsley;159271
Quote from: leith;159265
where are RAQ constantly considered comparable or better than the Breakfast other than the Hyperfunkalicious board?


Poor choice of words on my part... how about "I don\'t understand how RAQ is placed on the same tier as The Breakfast".  I don\'t want to start another marketing/management complaint thread because I don\'t have the information to do so intelligently/correctly, but it can\'t just be the music.

Quote from: leith;159265
This show has some really good RAQ songs but suffers in the recording to me.


Without knowing jack about recording and whatnot, I agree.  I feel that the sound and/or recording quality doesn\'t give the show its due.  If this is par for the course for RAQ recordings, kudos to the Breakfast sound guys/tapers for consistently producing better quality than this.


Yeah it\'s not just their music and we\'ll leave it at that.

As for the taping quality I totally agree that as Breakfast fans we are very lucky to have a core group of really really good tapers that like this band and attempt to make sure most shows are recorded.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Todd on September 20, 2007, 10:29:13 pm
Quote from: davepeck;159274

that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.


I\'ll go $4699 Bob.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: derickw on September 21, 2007, 08:24:35 am
Quote from: Todd;159325
Quote from: davepeck;159274

that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.


I\'ll go $4699 Bob.


1 dollar Bob
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: FrankZappa on September 21, 2007, 12:19:08 pm
Quote from: davepeck;159274
that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.



Schoeps Microphone (2)@ $707=$1414
KC5 $?
Schoeps CMC 6 Microphone Amplifier.  $720.00
Sonosax SX-M2 Microphone Preamplifier $1,172.00
Apogee AD1000 $1,555
Edirol R-4 $1200

Total:  $6061*

*not counting the cost of a "KC5", or the wires to connect products, or computer to mix down on.

Quote from: Todd
I\'ll go $4699 Bob.

sooorry chip!!!
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: davepeck on September 21, 2007, 12:32:31 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;159382
Quote from: davepeck;159274
that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.



Schoeps Microphone (2)@ $707=$1414
KC5 $?
Schoeps CMC 6 Microphone Amplifier.  $720.00
Sonosax SX-M2 Microphone Preamplifier $1,172.00
Apogee AD1000 $1,555
Edirol R-4 $1200

Total:  $6061*

*not counting the cost of a "KC5", or the wires to connect products, or computer to mix down on.


while the prices are probably a little on the high side (read: MSRP), yeah, you\'re on the right track.

the MK4 are the mic caps (cardioid). the CMC6 are the mic bodies, so you\'ll need 2 of those too. the KC5 are the active cables, which are run between the caps and the bodies (so rather than having entire mics up on a stand, you just have the caps). not sure exactly what the going rate is on the KC5\'s, but i\'d say between $1200 and $1500.
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Todd on September 21, 2007, 12:40:56 pm
Quote from: FrankZappa;159382
Quote from: davepeck;159274
that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.



Schoeps Microphone (2)@ $707=$1414
KC5 $?
Schoeps CMC 6 Microphone Amplifier.  $720.00
Sonosax SX-M2 Microphone Preamplifier $1,172.00
Apogee AD1000 $1,555
Edirol R-4 $1200

Total:  $6061*

*not counting the cost of a "KC5", or the wires to connect products, or computer to mix down on.

Quote from: Todd
I\'ll go $4699 Bob.

sooorry chip!!!


Yeah, but I beat Derick and didn\'t go over....I win! :lol:
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: derickw on September 21, 2007, 02:47:03 pm
Quote from: Todd;159388
Quote from: FrankZappa;159382
Quote from: davepeck;159274
that said, if it truly does not sound good, you guys would get a kick out of how much $$$ a rig like that goes for.



Schoeps Microphone (2)@ $707=$1414
KC5 $?
Schoeps CMC 6 Microphone Amplifier.  $720.00
Sonosax SX-M2 Microphone Preamplifier $1,172.00
Apogee AD1000 $1,555
Edirol R-4 $1200

Total:  $6061*

*not counting the cost of a "KC5", or the wires to connect products, or computer to mix down on.

Quote from: Todd
I\'ll go $4699 Bob.

sooorry chip!!!


Yeah, but I beat Derick and didn\'t go over....I win! :lol:



damn..... see you in the Showcase Show Down Biatch
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: FrankZappa on September 24, 2007, 08:47:11 am
I think we need a plinko showdown. Let\'s see who knows the prices of Dawn dish soap better.

[img=http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7293/showdown1xl5.th.jpg] (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showdown1xl5.jpg)
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: Todd on September 24, 2007, 12:50:53 pm
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7293/showdown1xl5.jpg)

That\'s some funny shit!!
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: derickw on September 24, 2007, 01:57:17 pm
Quote from: Todd;159773
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7293/showdown1xl5.jpg)

That\'s some funny shit!!


:lol:
Title: RAQ: 2007-09-14 - Stone Church; Newmarket, NH (ZAPPA)
Post by: jocelyn on September 24, 2007, 06:48:27 pm
Do they do the Whipping Post a la Zappa or a la ABB?

Drew, I agree with you.